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Posted on Dec 2, 2009
AP / Charles Dharapak

President Barack Obama speaks about the war in Afghanistan at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y.

By Robert Scheer

It is already a 30-year war begun by one Democratic president, and thanks to the political opportunism of the current commander in chief the Afghanistan war is still without end or logical purpose. President Barack Obama’s own top national security adviser has stated that there are fewer than 100 al-Qaida members in Afghanistan and that they are not capable of launching attacks. What superheroes they must be, then, to require 100,000 U.S. troops to contain them. 

The president handled that absurdity by conflating al-Qaida, which he admitted is holed up in Pakistan, with the Taliban and denying the McChrystal report’s basic assumption that the enemy in Afghanistan is local in both origin and focus. Obama stated Tuesday in a speech announcing a major escalation of the war, “It’s important to recall why America and our allies were compelled to fight a war in Afghanistan in the first place.” But he then cut off any serious consideration of that question with the bald assertion that “we did not ask for this fight.”

Of course we did. The Islamic fanatics who seized power in Afghanistan were previously backed by the U.S. as “freedom fighters” in what was once marketed as a bold adventure in Cold War one-upmanship against the Soviets. It was President Jimmy Carter, aided by a young liberal hawk named Richard Holbrooke, now Obama’s civilian point man on Afghanistan, who decided to support Muslim fanatics there. Holbrooke began his government service as one of the “Best and the Brightest” in Vietnam and was involved with the rural pacification and Phoenix assassination program in that country, and he is now a big advocate of the counterinsurgency program proposed by Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal to once again win the hearts and minds of locals who want none of it.

The current president’s military point man, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, served in Carter’s National Security Council and knows that Obama is speaking falsely when he asserts it was the Soviet occupation that gave rise to the Muslim insurgency that we abetted. Gates wrote a memoir in 1996 which, as his publisher proclaimed, exposed “Carter’s never-before-revealed covert support to Afghan mujahedeen—six months before the Soviets invaded.”

Carter’s national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, was asked in a 1998 interview with the French magazine Le Nouvel Observateur if he regretted “having given arms and advice to future terrorists,” and he answered, “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?” Brzezinski made that statement three years before the 9/11 attack by those “stirred-up Muslims.”

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So here we go again, selling firewater to the natives and calling it salvation. We have decided to prop up a hopelessly corrupt Afghan government because, as Obama argued in one of the more disgraceful passages of Tuesday’s West Point speech, “although it was marred by fraud, [the recent] election produced a government that is consistent with Afghanistan’s laws and constitution.”

To suggest that the Afghan government will be in seriously better shape 18 months after 30,000 additional U.S. and perhaps 5,000 more NATO troops are dispatched is bizarrely out of touch with the strategy of the McChrystal report, which calls for American troops to restructure life down to the level of the most forlorn village. Surely the civilian and military supporters of that approach who are cheering Obama on have been giving assurances that he will not be held to such an unrealistically short timeline. Evidence of this was offered in the president’s speech when he said of the planned withdrawal of some forces by July of 2011: “Just as we have done in Iraq, we will execute this transition responsibly, taking into account conditions on the ground. We’ll continue to advise and assist Afghanistan’s security forces to ensure that they can succeed over the long haul.”

A very long haul indeed, if one checks the experience of Matthew Hoh, the former Marine captain who was credited with being as successful as anyone in implementing the counterinsurgency strategy now in vogue. In his letter of resignation as a foreign service officer in charge of one of the most hotly contested areas, Hoh wrote: “In the course of my five months of service in Afghanistan … I have lost understanding and confidence in the strategic purpose of the United States’ presence in Afghanistan. … I have observed that the bulk of the insurgency fights not for the white banner of the Taliban, but rather against the presence of foreign soldiers and taxes imposed by an unrepresentative government in Kabul.”

Maybe they should have given Capt. Hoh the Noble Peace Prize.

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By faith, December 2, 2009 at 9:49 am Link to this comment

Excellent commentary Mr. Scheer.  Obama has failed us and I find it absolutely
stunning.  His arguments in support of expansion of the war last night were non
existant.  I hope you write another article very soon with some suggestions as to
what we americans can do to get our nation back on track.  It is clear that we
cannot trust the democrats nor the republicans.  Their allegiances lie elsewhere.

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By Go Right Young Man, December 2, 2009 at 9:33 am Link to this comment

In recent years President Clinton talked of the dangers of Saddam Hussein and Al Qeada and was called a liar.  President Bush talked of the dangers of Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda and was called a liar.  President Obama, having been relieved of the dangers from Husein, talks about Al Qeada being a danger and he’s called a liar.

Hussein attempting to kill a U.S. President was not proof of danger.  Nor was his involvement in killing the U.S. Ambassador to Jordan.  Hussein’s payments to homicide bombers was not dangerous.  Nor was his open calls to attack American interests all over the globe.

Al Qaeda’s involvement with the USS Cole, the bombings in Riyad, Spain and 9/11 is also not proof of a serious threat.

No. To people on this thread all these U.S. President’s are liars.  It’s the U.S. that’s full of truly dangerous people.


I didn’t vote for Mr. Obama and will oppose almost every domestic policy he believes in.  But I can see and listen well enough to understand that he truly believes in the dangers he speaks of.

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By bogi666, December 2, 2009 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

blaingtommyd, our “way of life” requires a definition and it is, NARCISSISTIC, CONSUMERIST, GLUTTONY which can only be perpetuated by the military doctrine of continuous war.

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By danielet, December 2, 2009 at 9:10 am Link to this comment

Yes indeed BOB, Here we go again LBJ II!

I always admired you but, alas, we who were refugees were paranoid about the motives of those supporting the other side. Now I realize what a GOOD AMERICAN you were. To me, you and Sy Hersh are the correspondents I admire most since then. Here we are two old men going around again because “our” kid Obama doesn’t learn from History. People should realize that you are a true patriot. Only a REAL patriot would not allow to be done with “OUR” kids what he would not allow to be done with our biologic kids. PLEASE FORGIVE ME BOB!

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By LostHills, December 2, 2009 at 9:09 am Link to this comment

Correction:

htto://www.answercoalition.org

Bring the troops home!

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By LostHills, December 2, 2009 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

Americans are coming out this evening to protest this insanity. A coalition of peace organizations has planned demonstrations across the country. To find one near you, go to:

http://www.answer.org

If you can’t find an action near you call your friends and organize one of your own.

Make your voices heard!

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By danielet, December 2, 2009 at 9:04 am Link to this comment

We are again sworn to our least appropriate surgical instrument, the military, a very expensive tool to both replace and run. Yet, it is more a bone cutter than a microsurgical tissue repair instrument. McChrystal gets the out he wanted: “I asked for more and because I didn’t get it so I lost.” There was no strategy in the speech, just an awkward political Frankenstein of BUSHISMS—a speech that ESCAPED THE LOGICAL CONCEQUENCES OF EVERY PARAGRAPH BY DISJOINTLY MOVING ON TO ANOTHER PLATITUDE. For the first time ever, Obama gave a speech that sounded as hollow, as contrived and as hot-buttonish instead of substantive as McChrystal’s report. Read report yourself and compare to the speech:

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/Assessment_Redacted_092109.pdf

On the other hand, Obama expects a NATO surge as well. Nevertheless, before raising hopes, one should read the following report by one of Europe’s most respected experts on Afghnaistan:

http://www.carnegieendowment.org/files/fixing_failed_strategy.pdf

I am for Obama and pray that he succeed. But I admit that his speech was a clumsy paste-up of Republican platitudes. Perhaps he hopes they’ll go easy on him. THEY WON’T! I am left dumbfounded and anxious wondering: AND WHAT IF MORE OF THE SAME—intel blind, language deaf and culture dumb soldiers just trying to stay alive—don’t save the KARZAI GOV that Obama admitted is a “fraud”? More troops? On TV I saw a black Bush!

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By DE Tedooru, December 2, 2009 at 9:01 am Link to this comment
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Yes Bob, here we go again. I now know how you felt back at Berkley and want to ask your forgiveness for doubting you. You see, we were so paranoid as refugees we saw all challengers of the establishment as Commies or dupes. Please forgive me. We now share despair over American hubris as old men. I know that my apology doesn’t change much, but at least I die knowing that a man whose brilliance I respect is a good man. You and Sy Hersh have proven to be my most admired correspondents. PLease forgive me. I’m sorry it’s under circumstances of LBJ II.

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By Cathy, December 2, 2009 at 9:01 am Link to this comment

RAE said:  “There’s one thing though - PLEASE, President Obama,  GET A THIRD PROMPTER SCREEN SET UP IN THE MIDDLE - you know, between the one on the left and the one on the right - so you can at least pause in your head swings. Anyone hard of hearing might think you’re watching a tennis match! We, the people, are IN FRONT OF YOU, at least on TV. How about looking us in the eye while you’re shoving the soother down out throats?”

I needed to laugh through the tears of this bad situation.  And everything else I also agree with you, and so many on here.  I’ve been reading and commenting in other places this morning and I’ve got to go to work.  But I love it when somebody notices the teleprompters.  Obama looks and sounds the same no matter what speech he is giving, between the teleprompters and his total lack of passion.  I sometimes wonder if he really believes what he is saying.  Don’t get me wrong that I think this man is being used or is a total puppet, victim, or whatever.  I think he a totally willing participant. 

I agree with ardee:  Hoh should have been given the Nobel Peace Prize, or maybe even a better choice would be this fine person:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/01-3

I read this article yesterday and, in my own way, have attempted to send it viral by posting it everywhere.

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By G.Anderson, December 2, 2009 at 9:01 am Link to this comment

President Obama’s speech is just another reminder that it doesn’t really matter what the people of this country think about the forever war. It’s happening anyway.

Just like W., there will be speeches, and platitudes, and exhortations to the best of our natures. Yet, what’s best in all of us can’t help but question, the motives, or the rationality of those who would use us.

Clearly this is not about our approval, that is just a footnote in a decision already made by others for our own good.

No, it’s about conscience and the terrible bloody truth of this decision.

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By Jim Yell, December 2, 2009 at 8:52 am Link to this comment
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Afghanistan is not worth one American life and we must now ask how many thousands will die before the Military Industrial Complex admits they have suckered the country once again?

Obama has thrown shit in the face of the voters and has said nothing that Bush/Cheney lied about for 8 years and now this.

If they worry about keeping the troops employed bring them home and have them patrol our borders, which would likely be better for the country than foriegn adventures. At lest the soldier’s pay would be spent in American cities.

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By garth, December 2, 2009 at 8:30 am Link to this comment

I love war.  It brings out the best in a few of us.  With the so-called all volunteer army, a system where a 39-year old man has to “volunteer” to get breast cancer treatment for his wife, brings me back to an Armistice Day Parade long ago. 
I recognized Morris, who escaped Czarist Russia with his two brothers Nate and Saul and together they made a life for themselves in Capitalist USA.  Morris, as I recollect, did not look all that happy.  Maybe it was dyspepsia.
Now, thank God, I haven’t seen many veterans who’ve returned from Iraq and Afghanistan like I used to see when we were bringing freedom and self- governance to the savage ingrates of Vietnam.
It’s not like the Vietnam War.  Those drug-addicted, unwashed, fraggers who came from all walks of American life and who were not discreet enough to appear only on a tv to support the “effort.” 
Now, the news shows and the talk shows feature gimps who’ve been seriously wounded both physically and mentally.  They are “thanked for their service.”  I find that particularly despicable.
One thing I am sure of, though, is that sometime down the line, the news media will feature a bright-eyed, beautiful little Afghan girl, who will capture the hearts of us “loving Americans,” and they will say this is why we are continuing the war.
Who can argue with images, PR and a hopeless news media, President and Congress.
So get on the right side, War is the thing.

Thank you Robert Scheer.  You have made quite a turnaround since last November.

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By Aaron Ortiz, December 2, 2009 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

Great article, the doctrine of perpetual warfare, from Orwell’s 1984, is revealed again.

I’m reminded of when the Roman Catholic Pope sent the European knights to fight the muslims just to keep them busy fighting a common enemy instead of each other.

A thousand years later…we are still stoking that fire.

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By NYCartist, December 2, 2009 at 8:05 am Link to this comment

Ouch: “selling firewater to the native and calling it salvation”, Scheer.

On delay as a form of hiding a comment:
  The NYTimes column online, takes comments, moderates them, and will post “if not abusive and is on topic”.  I posted a comment before 8AM Dec.1 and it didn’t get posted until very much later (and there were not that that many comments): The column was Mr. Herbert stating Obama was making a mistake with escalation.  My comment:

    1st mistake: invasion/occupation of Afghani-
    stan instead of police action after Sept.11.

    I agree with much of R. Scheer’s article and his comments earlier on Dem.Now.  I think it’s important to point out the errors and lies in a speech.  It’s a call to “do something”.

    This morning, Dennis Kucinich on DemNow was interviewed about the speech, http://www.democracynow.org
and I was so sad to hear him “dance and dice” words
that “he likes Obama” and that Obama has to be “separated” from the action and to go after Congress to stop funding the wars (not likely, he said).  While I agree with the point: get Congress
to stop funding the war(s)/occupations, I think it may require different members of Congress (which others have said).  See Paul Street articles,
on Democracy is simple? Dec.1 on Znet and an earlier one, “Perverted
Priorities”-summing up Obama’s first year,
the latter on both http://www.blackagendareport.com a week or so ago and on Znet http://www.Zcommunications.org/znet


  I listened to only a few minutes of the speech, on WBAI FM radio(yes, I again say, see http://www.takebackwbai.org
We need diverse independent community listener sponsored, NO commercials, Pacifica radio in NYC and to “undo the coup”).

  Obama was using Bush-like or Bush-exact words in re Sept.11th and I turned off my radio and listened to a book on tape until I could sleep.

  Ironically, the book (from NLS Lib. for Blind &
Physically Handicapped/Lib. of Congress) is “Bleeding Kansas” by Sara Paretsky,c2008, a novel that takes place in rural KS near Lawrence, and is during the Iraq war with plot revolving around that and earlier Vietnam protest. 

  I’m about the same age, I think as Robert Scheer and remember the Vietnam “learning curve” of my own.

  Norman Solomon made some good points, similar to Robert Scheer’s yesterday on WBAI, on Hugh Hamilton’s show “Talk Back”, archived for 90 days at http://www.wbai.org  and yes, see http://www.takebackwbai.org
A good interview.

  Whether or not Pres. Obama thinks he is different from LBJ, we can remember the ways of organizing that are effective and that whatever one can do helps.  We must not give up.  Do as one can do. “Every bit helps” Noam Chomsky one wrote.

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By babka, December 2, 2009 at 8:04 am Link to this comment
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If only they had cast Idris Elba as the President of the United States….it would
make going off to the slaughter so much sexier.

The Sane Ones

It is the sane ones, the well-adapted ones, who can without qualms and
without nausea aim the missiles and press the buttons that will initiate the
great festival of destruction that they, the sane ones, have prepared. What
makes s so sure, after all, that the danger comes from a psychotic getting into
a position to fire the first shot in a nuclear war? Psychotics will be suspect. The
sane ones will keep them far from the button. No one suspects the sane, and
the sane ones will have perfectly good reasons, logical, well-adjusted reasons,
for firing the shot. They will be obeying sane orders that have come sanely
down the chain of command. And because of their sanity, they will have no
qualms at all. When the missiles take off, then, it will be no mistake.”

Thomas Merton in “Raid on the Unspeakable”

War is Peace ‘r’ us….families destroyed, sanity of veterans and victims
destroyed, hope of young voters destroyed, goodwill of other nations and
faiths destroyed.

“Let me be clear”....says the dear….cue “Stop in the Name of Love”....

oh it’s clear.    clear as blood.

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By Birch, December 2, 2009 at 7:58 am Link to this comment

This so-called “plan” represents the combined thinking of the
Pentagon, the State Department, the White House and assorted
“experts” over a period of several months - and that’s the best
the could come up with - the same old Bush surge, using nearly
the same language. Collective stupidity reigns supreme in
Washington.

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By RdV, December 2, 2009 at 7:50 am Link to this comment

Damn straight.

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By Ouroborus, December 2, 2009 at 7:41 am Link to this comment

I think it’s a guy thing; you know, you go to the
carni and there are the three milk bottles stacked up
and you’ve got 3 balls to throw. I mean, you’ve got
the girlfriend and want to win a prize for her, and
besides; how hard can it be to knock over three milk
bottles?
Well, it’s harder than you think; ya see, the two
bottles on the bottom are sitting in tight fitting
sockets so they don’t go down easily. Oh sure, the
one on the top and maybe one on the bottom may go
down, but the important thing is; ya can’t win if you
don’t understand the game. And not understanding this
game means it can’t be won.

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By Peetawonkus, December 2, 2009 at 7:15 am Link to this comment

The continued conflation of Al-Quaida with the Taliban is useful only if you need a bogeyman to keep the war machine chugging. We can’t fight a criminal organization like Al-Quaida, no. We need a country to fight, dammit!

Continuing to invade Afghanistan in order to fight “terrorism” and Al-Quaida makes as much sense as invading Italy to fight the Mafia.

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By RAE, December 2, 2009 at 7:12 am Link to this comment

How I so deperately wish that someone - anyone - would step forward to publish a clear and honest analysis of the mountains of obfuscation that confound my ability to comprehend these military involvements.

I’m not an unintelligent citizen - nor the brightest - but, for the life of me, I cannot resolve the dissonance I feel when considering the “should we stay - should we leave” arguments.

I’m at the point where I cannot believe anything I read or hear on the subject whether from the President, any of his “men,” or any other voice from the wilderness shrill enough to be heard above the din.

My gut tells me we should just LEAVE - let the Taliban be the problem of those whose cultures and situations have given rise to them. If these thugs take over and, with an iron fist, “lord” it over the citizenry, how is that all that much different from our own situation anyway? I don’t mean to be flippant but isn’t it just a matter of degree?

It seems there’s far too much MONEY being earned by people in high places to ever let these cash cow invasions fade into the history books. These are fires of financial passion that WILL BE stoked come hell or high water.

I wish President Obama and his glorious oratory only the best of luck in resolving this situation.

There’s one thing though - PLEASE, President Obama,  GET A THIRD PROMPTER SCREEN SET UP IN THE MIDDLE - you know, between the one on the left and the one on the right - so you can at least pause in your head swings. Anyone hard of hearing might think you’re watching a tennis match! We, the people, are IN FRONT OF YOU, at least on TV. How about looking us in the eye while you’re shoving the soother down out throats?

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By philbq, December 2, 2009 at 7:10 am Link to this comment

Obama has become LBJ. He has drank the cool-aid of the generals. He has signed on for the quagmire. And as in the Iraq invasion, the real unspoken reason is (surprise!)petroleum. The Western oil companies have long planned for a pipeline from the oil and natural gas fields of central Asia through Afghanistan to India. But spilling the blood of U.S. soldiers for oil would not be very popular with the public. So Obama throws up a fog of crap. This is his imperial war. Hey all you Obama voters: is this the change you can believe in ??? (I voted for Nader.)

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By KISS, December 2, 2009 at 6:09 am Link to this comment

I quit listening to the lying son-of-a-bitch long ago.
He and his generals are preparing Cen-Com for an upcoming war of the ages and this is a preliminary step to that achievement. If you can’t see the lies just wait till he tells you the whopper of why the boys and girls must stay the course…sounds just like George W and his Pa.

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By Hank from Nebraska, December 2, 2009 at 5:44 am Link to this comment

It is time for the anti-war activists from the Bush era to prove they were really anti-war rather than just anti-Bush.  Events are planned all over the country.  You’d better show up!

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By montanawildhack, December 2, 2009 at 5:43 am Link to this comment

There is only two ways to stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan… (Don’t worry Americans.. Neither option involves you getting off your dead asses) 

The first option is for Tel Aviv to say simply, “Stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.”  We would be out of both countries ASAP…. This is not going to happen..

The second, and more likely option, is for the Chinese to say simply, “You end both of these wars for Greater Israel NOW or we stop buying your Treasury Bonds.”  Israel is powerful in America but they can’t trump the Almighty Dollar… So I call on the Chinese to please end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq….

To end, let’s give a big round of applause to Uncle Barack for his speech last night to that room full of well groomed sociopaths and mass murderers…. He’s so well spoken!!!!

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By ardee, December 2, 2009 at 5:43 am Link to this comment

C.Curtis.Dillon, December 2 at 9:33 am

A pity that such common sense as you display seemingly has no place in this debate.

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, December 2, 2009 at 5:33 am Link to this comment

What Afghanistan needs is really quite simple ... to be left alone to find their own way in the world.  The Taliban may take control for a while but these fiercely independent people would eventually rise up and throw them out as well.  It took very little for the Northern Alliance to run them out in 2001.  These are a proud and independent people who just want to be given the chance to decide their own destiny.

As for letting Al Quida back, something tells me the Taliban won’t go that route again as the last time they let Ben Laden in he brought the Americans to the country and gave them 8 more years of war.  Ben Laden took advantage of them and I think they will not give him that privilege again.

If we remain in Afghanistan, the situation will only degenerate more.  The Taliban cannot be defeated no matter how many troops we send.  That is the lesson we learned (and forgot) in Vietnam.  We need to get out and let them sort the issues out internally.

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By cathy810, December 2, 2009 at 5:29 am Link to this comment

Couldn’t agree more.

Let’s connect some dots:

1. The increase in mercenaries in Afghanistan between June and September is a clue that Obama made his decision about the war long before his charade of a thoughtful, measured and analyzed to death response.

2. This escalation in Afghanistan is all about Pakistan, where our contracted special ops (Blackwater, etc.) have been working with absolutely no accountability to the people of the US.  After all, Pak is the country with the nukes, but once again Afghanistan is the proxy war.  We trained the monsters (OBL) to beat Russia; we alone created the mess we’re in.  Anyone under the age of 35 in Afghanistan knows nothing other than war and that they can trust no one when it comes to their survival.  So how do they build a viable, incorruptible state?  We haven’t done it in our own country after 200+ years of democracy…

3.  What’s the cost in human and dollar terms of these unmentioned, off the books mercenaries?  This is the path we have blazed for years with our installation of puppet regimes around the world, and history tells us it was a total failure.  By all means, let’s double down, especially since these mercenaries will come in handy when the cookies crumble in our own country.

3. Obama surged the troops before the election to ensure his desired outcome.  That failed, and only served to undermine Karzei, the guy we bashed, yet the very person we need to be strong to gain control in order to pass the torch to Afghanistan and end our involvement.  Stupid is as stupid does.

4. WSJ, you report as if the corporations that stand to benefit are the major concern.  Now, that is short term thinking, because what does it matter when we are killing the baby with the bathwater we poisoned?

5. If we want the government to represent the people of the US when it comes to war, re-institute the draft for that is the direct line between the people and their so-called representatives who are actually part and parcel of the Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower warned against.

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By thebeerdoctor, December 2, 2009 at 5:01 am Link to this comment

What can one say about the aspirations of the tyrannical? The United Sates colossus, with all of its mechanized military hubris, has decided that it and it alone, knows what is best for those backward people in their impoverished country. And President Obama, fighting the right war at the right time, is going to get the job done. Mission accomplished? chop chop!

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By morgan1, December 2, 2009 at 4:56 am Link to this comment

Eighteen more months of escalation will tell the WH nothing they don’t already know, and the situation will be even worse—Here, and there. These “smart” people just don’t read the history of that area. They don’t understand the people, culture, or politics and expect them to like us as we swagger around with all our firepower. We must be the most arrogant people on the entire planet to believe a country would welcome us with open arms after all the tragedy we have brought to their doorsteps. Whatever happened to the best and the brightest? Oh, I forgot. They brought us Vietnam. We are so pis*** at Iran for not bowing down to us, we want to nuke them for what we did to them for decades:What we did. Not what they did to us. This really is the pinnacle of insanity and it’s no wonder Bush, Rove and Cheney are cheering Obama on. I don’t believe this is the government we deserve or wanted.

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By Howie Bledsoe, December 2, 2009 at 4:37 am Link to this comment
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It never fails to make me laugh, of course we want to destabilize Pakistan, so we can create more Al-quida, so we can perpetrate war, so we can create more Taliban, so we can perpetrate more war, ad nauseum…

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By glider, December 2, 2009 at 3:45 am Link to this comment

What a nightmare.  Obama is not delivering on his promised progressive agenda, and he is turning his oratorical skills to war demagoguery.

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By ardee, December 2, 2009 at 3:43 am Link to this comment

The last couple of sentences of this article are the most pertinent; I have observed that the bulk of the insurgency fights not for the white banner of the Taliban, but rather against the presence of foreign soldiers and taxes imposed by an unrepresentative government in Kabul.”

Maybe they should have given Capt. Hoh the Noble Peace Prize.

Time and again we read assessments that make this point, both within and without the administration, both within and without the military as well. To believe that thirty or fifty or even one hundred thousand troops will make any difference whatever in a conflict in which the ‘enemy’ does not stand and fight, in which the people despise their own government , viewing it as a puppet of foreign powers, in which the enmity for the Taliban, a group representative of only one tribe and representative of an extreme religious view as well,is replaced by a growing enmity for this “crusade” is simply absurd.

Barack Obama has used up the loyalty of those who voted for him believing he would offer solutions. He has, time and again, proven that an ability to make inspiring speeches is no substitute for the ability to make wise decision.

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By blazintommyd, December 2, 2009 at 3:42 am Link to this comment

The US of A is a Fascist Plutocracy. When it was
founded war was the natural course for nations to
take in pursuance of land, resources - i.e.,
happiness and the game plan was to build up a
treasure and then to go out and conquer.

The first international foray was Woodrow Wilson 1
which was essentially a fiasco. As a result two of
the worlds strongest militaries formed - Germany
whose goal was to rule the Rhineland - ie Col
Haushoffer’s Geopoliticks and The Soviet Union to
liberate people from capitalist decadence.

The US foundation for offensive war does not work in
the historical manner which has become a part of the
collective memory and wisdom of mankind. US Society
is a violent nation generally devoid of Love but
unlike the Nazis or Soviets the US of A in it’s
adoration of ad baculum force has no rational basis -
e.g, to free the world and make it safe for
plutocratic fascism?

There is thus a disconnection between the people and
the offensive military aims of the US of A, which has
become more like 18th century Europe and somehow
missed the evolution that took place with the two
superpowers - Germany and the Soviet Union. So in
this manner the US of A is a child or young teenager
trying to find itself while melting the earth with
plutonium and patting itself on the back for the
nuclear annihilation of civilian targets in Japan.

So you have this desire to be a superpower and rule
earth but there is no Spartan ideal there is merely
an elite military with carte blanche handing out
applications for commander in chief. The form (always
over substance) says “war - you may choose any but
you must choose at least one”. Obama chose this one.

War is institutionalized. It is far easier to
convince sexually repressed religiously self
lobotomized idiots to have babies and government will
pay for it the catch is you can’t just get a
government hand out and we don’t believe in make work
but we will make a war to send off the boys after
they knock the ladies who wait at home for their
cheque - because it perpetuates the Eisenhower/Nixon
“Our Way of Life” and it is obsolete.

You are the one that is responsible because you do
not oppose the cause you only oppose the choice

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Can the Eagle fly with two right wings?

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