The CIA has probably “inspired” more degrees from
Harvard than any other single university in the US.

North Carolina universities have not escaped the CIA
spider-web, however, with an increasing trend.
Perhaps due to the Blackwater/Ex strongholds in NC,
with property in the formerly-beautiful, western area
increasingly sucked-up by overpaid, former assassin-
types. 

Although, degree “inspiration” by the CIA is spread
over many US universities, and not limited to
university degrees. A falsified “birth certificate”
from Hawaii or almost anywhere is comparatively small
potatoes.  The CIA and US Treasury attained marvelous
expertise with passport and family history
falsifications in the US, Germany and other locations
via “Operation Paper Clip,” 1945-1948. 
Could it be that control has spread to a
certain US Treasury printing press? 
Are not one-hundred-dollar bills attractive?

LocalHero, March 26 at 12:11 pm #
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No wonder you don’t know anything about history.
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Fvck you. Not everything good is “Hahvahd”

Focussing a bit on the subject at hand, I wonder how
many “Addenda” were tacked onto or “worked into” this
alleged “Health Care” bill, which have nothing to do
with “health care” ?

We will know, after they have begun to “hit the fan,”
and congress persons start asking, “where the ???? did
this come from?”

A genuine “health care” bill?  Not even funny.

Only a question of which butcher gets the biggest
slice.

The South - not being allowed to withdraw from a union they voluntarily joined - was the very height of tyranny. The spirit of Independence died, while the specter of Globalization was born.
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I’ve heard this line for over 30 years.  It’s bullshit. They made that argument so they could keep their slaves.  Lincoln was a pragmatist whose goal was to keep the Union together. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that allows any member to withdraw.  Nothing.

Let’s continue with the history lesson:
Sometime in the 1830’s Britain outlawed slavery—a full 30 years ahead of the United States, and without a civil war to do it.  Yet Britain was an avid supporter of the South’s efforts to separate.

Now why do you think that was?
1) It would allow direct and cheaper trade with the agrarian society that depended for much of its income on exports.
2) It would create two FAR weaker states, both of which could more easily be dominated and possibly re-conquered.
3) Don’t forget that the War of 1812 ended in 1815, barely 45 years before the Civil War began.
4) Britain’s “Historic Relationship” and “Hands across the Sea” is a relatively recent development, despite our common language and culture.  As late as 1915, before OUR entry into WWI, Britain’s relations with the US were troubled.  It was only Wilson’s Anglophilia and the trumped-up Lusitania incident and the Germans decision to return to unrestricted sub warfare in 1916 that changed that.

The Union had very few friends during the Civil War as most other nations were like jackals waiting to pull apart the carcass.  The South’s treason, had it been successful, would have destroyed both the CSA and the USA.  That’s an obvious extrapolation.

Southern soldiers, most of whom were NOT slave-owners, quickly realized that they were dying to protect the wealth of a few and they used to say “Rich Man’s War, Poor Man’s Fight!”  Not too different than our war in Iraq today, was it?

To ITW:

Slavery was an abomination, and I offer no defense for it. But you know as well as I that Lincoln confessed if permitting slavery would have kept the Union together - he would have allowed it. It was all about grabbing and maintaining control:

“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.” - A. Lincoln 1862

The South - not being allowed to withdraw from a union they voluntarily joined - was the very height of tyranny. The spirit of Independence died, while the specter of Globalization was born.

Just imagine a future One World Government (a Global Union) where, for whatever reason, the United States decides it is no longer any good, and wants to opt out. Would the other countries (following in Lincoln’s abhorrent footsteps) have the right to murder and destroy the US until we surrendered?

You know what, TOA? I’ve studied American History all my life, including grad school at UNC, a premier center of the study of Southern History.  I’ve never heard ONE valid argument why the South should have been allowed to continue with slavery.  That their “States’ Rights” should super-cede human rights is an immoral travesty.

The only plus I can think of for secession is that MOST Southern states get to suck more money out of the Federal government than they put in and that money comes out of us Northern states.

BTW, the South started the Civil War by
a) Seceding and thus committing treason
b) Firing on Fort Sumter.

They ended it by founding the Ku Klux Klan, an all-American terrorist institution.

I have no sympathy.

The overall point being:  UNITED WE STAND. DIVIDED WE FALL.  And that goes for the entire world now, at this late date, what with nukes and pollution, neither of which have any boundaries, walls, fences, lines drawn in the sand, or cultural sanctities. It’s all for one and one for all, or a very painful death for our beautiful Mother Earth.

My religion, xy7 with congregation of one, also, damn it, misleads me more times than i am willing to tell my wife with her religion xy8.

It took me 50 yrs of deepthink to realize religion xy7 was fallible. So i decided also to consult the other side of all religions, the devil’s views.

We know s/hes around because ?all religions + bible, quran, talmud, vedas tell us so!

I now sleep lot better having obtained another vision. We, gods and me, said the satan, made nature infinitely valued; in which people at their worst cld shoot thousands nuclearly-armed missiles at one another or at their best come up with some or other ‘reforms’.

We, gods and i, call that the Devil’s Theory. It means that we will always produce enough people who will deny u many rights and wld do all kinds of crimes because that is pleasing to our eyes.

But there is still hope: a new god is arising, a god that wld love all of the people all of the time; all receiving medical treatments, schooling; living in an idyllic society and having a timocratic democracy.

In which voting wldn’t matter because we wld be ruled by timocrats. Actually, we wldn’t be ruled; we wld just have people managing our affairs; instead of THEM having their managers managing THEIR affairs.

So, praise be to OUR GOD, god 1!

Quoting Mitt Romney’s words was incredibly exhilarating to me as I spend a lot of time around Mormons who, despite their “nice” exterior, have always been separatists and who are some of the most anti-government people in the country. It will be very nice to quote Mitt-the-hypocrite’s words to them.

What if John NcCain and Sarah Palin had won the election? Can you imagine what a hell hole this country would be? They are two wingnuts that are the picture of the republican party. They seem to have the same amount of intelligence as the moron tea party a-holes.

I think i have said this before: even tho a constitution is an infallible set of laws, it, nevertheless, cld not prevent civil war nor annul the belief in hearts of many americans that they had the right to own people as one owns an animal.tnx

The states taking a stand against forced for-profit insurance are, indeed, taking us back to the 1830’s and making us rethink the Civil War.

Although from the North myself (and indoctrinated for 12 years of my young developing life in compulsory government training centers) I now realize what a travesty the Civil War really was. It was the war which undid “Independence.”

I used to think “United We Stand” was somehow an honorable motto. But now realize it’s an insidiously veiled threat: “Leave and we’ll kill you.”

It’s worth noting that Abe Lincoln (like Saddam Hussein) was responsible for murdering thousands of his own people.

Hey! Virginia! You LOST the Civil War!  “Nullification” died at the Appomattox Court House in 1865 when treason was finally put down.