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Haiti, Forgive UsPosted on Feb 9, 2010By Amy Goodman The tragedy of the Haitian earthquake continues to unfold, with slow delivery of aid, the horrific number of amputations performed out of desperate medical necessity, more than a million homeless, perhaps 240,000 dead, hunger, dehydration, the emergence of infections and waterborne diseases, and the approach of the rainy season, which will be followed by the hurricane season. Haiti has suffered a massive blow, an earthquake for which its infrastructure was not prepared, after decades—no, centuries—of military and economic manipulation by foreign governments, most notably the United States and France. Haiti was a slave plantation controlled by France. In 1804, inspired by Toussaint L’Ouverture (after whom the now barely functioning airport in Port-au-Prince is named), the slaves rebelled, founding the world’s first black republic. Under military threat from France in 1825, Haiti agreed to pay reparations to France for lost “property,” including slaves that French owners lost in the rebellion. It was either agree to pay the reparations or have France invade Haiti and reimpose slavery. Many Haitians believe that original debt, which Haiti dutifully paid through World War II, committed Haiti to a future of poverty that it has never been able to escape. (While France, as part of the deal, recognized Haiti’s sovereignty, slave-owning politicians in the United States, like Thomas Jefferson, refused to recognize the black republic, afraid it would inspire a slave revolt here. The U.S. withheld formal recognition until 1862.) The U.S. Marines occupied Haiti from 1915 until 1934. In 1956, Francois “Papa Doc” Duvalier took control in a military coup and declared himself president for life, initiating a period of brutal, bloody dictatorship, with U.S. support. Papa Doc died in 1971, at which point his 19-year-old son, Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier, took over, maintaining the same violent dictatorial control until he was driven into exile by popular revolt in 1986. Jubilee USA, a network calling for elimination of debt owed by poor countries, estimates that Baby Doc alone diverted at least $500 million in public funds to his private accounts, and that 45 percent of Haiti’s debt in recent decades was accumulated during the corrupt reign of the Duvaliers. Loans from the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) imposed “structural adjustment” conditions on Haiti, opening its economy to cheap U.S. agricultural products. Farmers, unable to compete, stopped growing rice and moved to the cities to earn low wages, if they were lucky enough to get one of the scarce sweatshop jobs. People in the highlands were driven to deforest the hills, converting wood into salable charcoal, which created an ecological crisis—destabilizing hillsides, increasing the destructiveness of earthquakes and causing landslides during the rainy season. Haiti’s first democratically elected president was Jean-Bertrand Aristide, a Catholic priest committed to the poor. He was elected in 1990, then ousted in a military coup in 1991. In 1994, with Haitian refugees flooding into Florida, the Clinton administration was forced to restore Aristide to power, but only with additional structural-adjustment demands. Aristide was re-elected in 2000, only to be deposed again in a U.S.-backed coup in 2004, Haiti’s bicentennial. Advertisement It is critical now to cancel Haiti’s ongoing foreign debt, so that the country can devote its scant resources to rebuilding and not to repaying debt. The G-7 finance ministers met in Canada this week and announced the forgiveness of the bilateral debt between member states and Haiti. But the World Bank, IMF and IDB debts remain (the IMF controversially promised a $100 million loan after the earthquake, eliciting condemnation, and has since pledged to convert it to a grant). Earthquakes alone do not create disasters of the scale now experienced in Haiti. The wealthy nations have for too long exploited Haiti, denying it the right to develop in a secure, sovereign, sustainable way. The global outpouring of support for Haitians must be matched by long-term, unrestricted grants of aid, and immediate forgiveness of all that country’s debt. Given their role in Haiti’s plight, the United States, France and other industrialized nations should be the ones seeking forgiveness. © 2010 Amy Goodman Distributed by King Features Syndicate Previous item: America's Confused Approach to Afghanistan Next item: Some Healthy Summit Skepticism CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment |
By twf, February 22, 2010 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment
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Of historical interest—You can see a clip of Toussaint’s last moments in prison
Report thisfrom the award-winning new short film “The Last Days of Toussaint L’Ouverture”
at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2468184/ This film is the basis for a new
feature (not with Danny Glover) that is in development.
By Gary Hammond, February 21, 2010 at 9:01 pm Link to this comment
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Great article. Appeared locally in the Cortland Standard!
Report thisBy garth, February 13, 2010 at 9:05 am Link to this comment
Like George W. said to the woman who told him that she was working three jobs just to make ends meet, “Isn’t that uniquely American.” And that was coming from someone who never worked a day in his life. The one job he did try to hold—selling airline food—they had to let him go. He wasn’t cutting the mustard, so to speak.
Wait’ll the students of Iowan universities start demanding a reduction in tuition or some kind of pay for their help. You’ll have yourself another business opporunity: Placement for Disaster Aid Workers. (Brownie, you’re doing a helluva job.)
That along with Krispy Kreme donuts and Work Clothes from China with a masculine logo. Or Barbara Bush’s gift of 30,000 dollars to the Katrina fund as long as they spent it on educational software produced by her nitwit son, Marvin, in his company in Waltham, MA.
By the way, how much are they paying you to monitor these sites and throwing your anti-American Gahbahge? Or is it that you just don’t you like Americans, and soon to dislike Haitians.
Where will you be in your emergency?
Report thisBy rico, suave, February 13, 2010 at 8:41 am Link to this comment
“It shouldn’t go unnoticed the New Orleans and Haiti disasters concern mostly black people while Iowa is mostly white.”
Now that you mention it…
But is anybody saying that, because they are BLACK, they don’t deserve our help? I’m not.
In New Orleans, anyway, lots of people were put off when they heard, “because we are black, we DEMAND your help.”
Haitians are too busy cleaning up to play the race card.
“...say exactly what you mean: That people are on their own.”
OK. People are on their own. For example… the Iowans.
Report thisBy garth, February 13, 2010 at 7:30 am Link to this comment
By rfidler, February 12 at 7:09 pm #
Your hearing is excellent. Breathe into a paper bag, you’ll be fine.
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What a low-life, pitting the suffering of one group of victims of a natural disaster against another group for political gain. It shouldn’t go unnoticed the New Orleans and Haiti disasters concern mostly black people while Iowa is mostly white.
You should start a business franchise:
Nero Rfidler’s Bait & Tackle Shops.
When are you people going to strap on a pair and come right out and say exactly what you mean: That people are on their own.”
This message was implied by your master, George W. Bush, flying over New Orleans at 30,000 feet five days after Katrina struck.
All I can say is that greed and pettiness are cruel masters. You should grow up and put away childish things.
Either that or wear a paper bag over your head.
Report thisBy rico, suave, February 12, 2010 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment
Your hearing is excellent. Breathe into a paper bag, you’ll be fine.
Report thisBy garth, February 12, 2010 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment
I hear a right-wing talking point coming on.
It’s giving me agita.
Report thisBy rico, suave, February 12, 2010 at 8:17 am Link to this comment
garth:
Katrina proves RAE’s point.
The people of New Orleans grew comfortable being “helpees” over the years by embracing the culture of minority victimhood. They fully expected, no, DEMANDED, that everybody but themselves bail them out of the mess they found themselves in through no fault of their own. “Where’s my check?”
Now, move up river a few hundred miles. How much whining did you hear from Iowans when half their state got washed away and FEMA and $2000 unrestricted checks (remember lap dances and plasma tvs?) were nowhere to be found?
If you don’t want Haiti to remain a shit hole, don’t give them fish, give them fishing poles.
Report thisBy garth, February 12, 2010 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
“... the helpee becomes very comfortable with the help being provided. At some point the helpee assumes the free support as a RIGHT and takes it for granted.
Not long after discovering that, the helpers begin to feel used. Resentment builds. Support is withdrawn.”
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So much for the right-wing, conservative bull-shit about charity being the only Constitutionally acceptable means for social good.
What do we do when the rains come here in the good ole US of A. When this commission gets through and millions are thrown in the street, and Social Security and Medicare are eliminated so that stuffed welfare cheats on Wall Street and Corporate board rooms can have their losses in bad bets paid off, what do we do then?
We’ll become a big Haiti as evidenced by the reaction to Katrina, and who will come to our aid?
Report thisListening to the mindless chatter on C-SPAN this morning about budget deficits and debt and the right-wing answers to these problems, the average American is never even going to know the truth about what hit him.
We should pass Go and go directly to WWIII.
By NYCartist, February 12, 2010 at 7:29 am Link to this comment
rfidler,
Report thisThank you. I hope for many more art work done. Artists are a driven lot. You are kind.
By RAE, February 12, 2010 at 7:11 am Link to this comment
It certainly is a strangeness about us humans - this quirk of our nature that goes something like this:
Someone has a misfortune.
Neighbors (the helpers) rush to assist. They provide food, shelter and whatever else is needed. It feels good for both helper and helpee!
So good, in fact, that the helpee becomes very comfortable with the help being provided. At some point the helpee assumes the free support as a RIGHT and takes it for granted.
Not long after discovering that, the helpers begin to feel used. Resentment builds. Support is withdrawn.
The helpees feel let down and abandoned. They become angry.
Hard feelings all ‘round.
I’m not saying it happens this way in every case, but it happens often enough to make for big problems whether between next door neighbors, or countries far apart.
Haiti is now and will continue to receive MASSIVE free support. I have no problem with that. But the population WILL come to take it for granted and who knows what problems that will generate.
I suggest that we, the helpers, soon begin to transform our assistance from direct to indirect. Steadily withdraw the services of foreign police, troops, medics, and NGOs while expecting and supporting the Haitians to pick up the ball to replace them with their own.
Yes… continue to assist with (provide) infrastructural MATERIALS for housing, transportation, utilities, hospitals, agricultural, etc. but REQUIRE the Haitians to do most of the planning and building. It’s their country and they NEED to be in control of every stage of its reconstruction.
We, at the earliest possible moment, NEED to stop providing the fish and require them to fish for themselves. If we don’t, we’ll regret it, big time.
And, if they botch it - if they rebuild a national SLUM, that’s their business, not ours.
Two cents, please.
Report thisBy ofersince72, February 12, 2010 at 7:06 am Link to this comment
Nice try keeponkeepin,
Amy isn’t that hard to interpret…..
you are putting words in her mouth….
She puts her life on the line every day of her life!!
Report thisBy johannes, February 12, 2010 at 6:05 am Link to this comment
To Rfidler,
Report thisYes I have absolutly enough of this world, the whole day, from every where in the world, body bags full of human pain and starving people are coming tru my pass tru hatchway, I can do nothing for them, they have to change this situation them selfs or die, I know it sounds misserable, but this beautiful worls of us is killed every day little bid more, and we are the on lookers by this all.
By keepontryon, February 12, 2010 at 5:58 am Link to this comment
Amy: You make an eloquent case to show that trying to help Haiti always has negative consequences.
Are you trying to say it is time to leave it alone? I don’t think so. You are really appearing to me to be saying that the people of Haiti, because they could not avoid being exploited, now deserve to be fed,clothed, housed, and protected by all who exploited their past weakness.
So, I want to lead a call for a band of wealthy (who else?) who will pay for the sins of those who led the exploitation. But, first please tell me: How much money, leadership, and control is needed until comes the time when we have reached your goal? Or some point where we can stop feeling guilty for having caused all of the failures, to be reached.
The Episcopal church back in the 1960’s felt so guilty that it wanted to pay ‘reparations’ to every American black victim. I think they had a hard time deciding which black slave owner should be disqualified, along with which successful blacks with income above some - to be determined threshold of eligibility- should collect none, part or all of the standard payment. They also discovered that the fund raisers wanted to be paid forever too!
If Haitians had not been able to grow their population, would the problem today be different? What can we do to avoid paying out so much, only to find that somehow the money ends up in the wrong hands, and the population expands again to more than replace the lost 250,000 souls?
Already, the bandits and charlatans have developed ways to steal all they can in Haiti and sell it for whatever the market can pay. Do you expect me to ask people to pay for money to get to their customers, so they can pay more for what others are trying to give to them?
Please advise! Or accept the fact that Jesus told us the poor shall always be with us, but we can pray for their need for relief from the tyranny endemic to any population that can’t educate leaders much less avoid excessive reproduction.
Report thisBy rico, suave, February 12, 2010 at 5:18 am Link to this comment
johannes:
Fine sentiments.
Report thisHow has the weather been over in Europe this year.
Our east coast is getting hammered with snow.
By johannes, February 12, 2010 at 2:51 am Link to this comment
Haîti forgive us,
Not my words, every person is responceble for his deads, every men or woman must live his live, in his way.
Every human nows that you can not live without rules and value, but if a religion is giving you a free cart to miss behave, and make children every where, with out taking any responsibility, no I am not my brothers keeper.
But I regret this mis fortune of this people, and also in the past.
Report thisBy rico, suave, February 11, 2010 at 11:13 am Link to this comment
NYC:
Happy birthday. And many more.
Report thisBy Alio Venicius, February 11, 2010 at 10:10 am Link to this comment
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“Aristide was a charlatan committed to Aristide!”
By rfidler, February 10 at 11:07 pm
(Is he dead?)
And what are you committed to? French fries. AIDS. Sugar, Rice. You can’t be an unbiased American.
Do you know Aristide? Do you know any Haitians? Do you know anything?
If so, give us the full poop.
Report thisBy NYCartist, February 11, 2010 at 9:39 am Link to this comment
On Feb.4,2010 I completed a piece of art to mark my
Report this7 0th birthday, coming at the end of this month. The text on the xerographic,is approximately, after “Marking My 7 0th - 17 1/2 leap year birthday
In memory of Howard Zinn (he was right in ‘You Can’t
Be Neutral on A Moving Train’, his autobio
...
With apology to the people of the world for present and post policies of the U.S. gov’t.” I have made several on paper, 11"X17”, color. Sanda
By rico, suave, February 11, 2010 at 7:16 am Link to this comment
John Kace:
Who do you think is by far the greatest contributor in the relief effort right now? What would it take for you to be satisfied with the US’s effort?
And I don’t think a bricklayer would be much good at resetting/amputating a broken leg.
First things first.
Report thisBy rico, suave, February 11, 2010 at 7:13 am Link to this comment
RAE:
You make way too much sense to be posting on truthdig.
Report thisBy RAE, February 11, 2010 at 7:11 am Link to this comment
John Kase: “I imagine they need carpenters and wood, and brick-layers and bricks.”
If I lived there and was about to rebuild my home the LAST materials I’d be thinking of would be bricks.
My next home would be:
(a) not near any other building
(b) not much higher than ground level
(c) made of something really flexible and light
Clearly even reinforced concrete is no match for that kind of shaking but I’ll bet not many trees were affected. My next home would be made of bamboo, rubber, or something similar, built into the ground with very little exposure to the elements. Let the ground shake and winds blow.
Report thisBy ggh, February 11, 2010 at 6:27 am Link to this comment
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Sorry, but Haiti ( and most “poor” countries ) are not poor, they just have lots of poor people. Likewise,Vermont is not a poor state - but we have lots of poor and a few very rich, per capita the most in the USA just a few years ago - maybe even today. Some live in converted ( barely) chicken houses but Stowe built 900 houses worth $1,000,000+ in 1 year recently I believe. Now the Chester area is in vogue, oh those cute rich they are so tickle. The really poor in VT would probably be no, or not much ,worse off in Haiti ( well most of the time).
Report thisIf Haiti was so poor then why has France,USA,etc been so darn interested in them for so long. I doubt it is because they are so “poor”. And tell Amy not to worry, VT may be near the bottom in almost all wealth statitics but our rich are living the good life, as long as us workers get up every morning and go to work for about $10 an hour their $1,000,000 houses and Harvard educations are secure. ( My boss also liked polo and fox hunting horses, but to each his own.)
By bogi666, February 11, 2010 at 5:53 am Link to this comment
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Paul GA.,payback has begun and the retribution against the USA has been cast by the US Supreme Court which all but guantees Predatory Corporatism as the ruler of this country. Americans will beome serfs of the coporate masters who can openly bribe and extort Congress to bid the Corporations doing. There is already a transfer of wealth to the wealthy classes from the working classes. The “Family” a fundamentalist Repubican group based in Wash., DC has extablished the unofficial policy for the USA is based on Indonesian government of 1978 which call for a military dictatorship and unbridled predatory corporatism with the taxes being used to fund the Facist Corporate State. Why Indonesia? Suharto the military dictator there and no government services except to fund the Fascist dictatorship. The “Family” endorses the 10 commandments for all others than themselves, Sanford of South Carolina and Ensign of Nevada are stellar members, both unrepentent hypocrits.AS for the USA with its obscenely unsustainable military budget I use the Great Wall of China as the model that will result for the USG. The Wall 4500 miles long taking 25 years to build, bankrupt the then Chinese society which lead to the Mongol invasion. The USG is building the Great Electronic Wall of Space, ostensively for security, with the attendent guard towers of over 1000 Pentagon outpost around the world. The “final solution” will be a bankrupt USA and serfdom as the Corportations will be Congress.
Report thisBy bobbi browne, February 11, 2010 at 4:58 am Link to this comment
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Amy—
thank you SO MUCH for shedding some much needed historical light on the plight of the Haitians at this time. Were there were MORE like you, sister! God Bless.
a grateful fan
Report thisBy John Kace, February 11, 2010 at 2:13 am Link to this comment
In a country where most everyone wants to go to college and thinks they are right and smart. It sure is hard to raise a child. I cant imagine what it would be like in Haiti right now. I imagine they need carpenters and wood, and brick-layers and bricks. Seems like there are plenty of shovel ready jobs. Why arent we the US leading by example and doing the right thing? A Friend in need is a Friend in deed. Whats happened to this country is sad.
Report thisBy rico, suave, February 10, 2010 at 6:07 pm Link to this comment
“Haiti’s first democratically elected president was Jean-Bertrand Aristide, a Catholic priest committed to the poor.”
Give me a fucking break!!!
Aristide was a charlatan committed to Aristide!
Report thisBy berniem, February 10, 2010 at 2:04 pm Link to this comment
Since Patty O’700club talks to the “Big Guy” at least monthly, you’d think he’d put in a good word for the folks down there and pull off some of those loaves & fishes stunts that worked so good back in the day! Oh, and pope “Ack-Ack” Benny; where’s he been while all those good members of the flock have been catching hell ‘cause of that deal they made to lose France? Meanwhile, has anybody seen “W”? Wasn’t he supposed to pull off some magic with “Slick Willie” to help out the folks what with his Katrina expertise. I know ‘ol Georgie couldn’t chance going down there with all those dreadful UN folks lurking around. Hell, he might get renditioned ala Eichmann to face war crimes. Oh, well; I’ll just send a few more bucks to RAM & Docs Without Borders and hope for the best.
Report thisBy mike turner, February 10, 2010 at 10:44 am Link to this comment
When does Amy Goodman come to terms with her fetishized blather?
Report thisUndeveloped population explosion is EVERYWHERE! Instead of using her
meager power to focus on strategic positions….she’s a little girl putting her
finger in the dyke. Haiti is a reflection of poor people EVERYWHERE. There is no
infrastructure. The idea that the planet can tolerate the future costs of cultures
which do little more than multiply misery by adding more children is insane.
Moreover…when the RICHEST nation in world history refuses to face its own
problems, ie heath/emergency care is EXPENSIVE! it belies all reason. The fact is
even larger natural disasters will come and the ignorant horde trying to
overturn Roe vs Wade have just been given a blank corporate check by the Bush
Supreme Court. The center of the wheel is about to fly of the rails and dear Amy
& her happy non-warriors are going to have to broadcast from the Palestinian
detention camps cause the corporate neo-fascists are gonna create whatever
climate they desire. Remember the Patriot Act? The hope is to change
Washington….the folks running the show have never listened to anything but
the judge who says: “Do you swear to tell the whole truth & nothing but the
truth?” Look at Obama’s promises….all hat no cattle.Action…no more words
should be the call AMY!
By Paul_GA, February 10, 2010 at 10:17 am Link to this comment
“For every false word or unrighteous deed, for cruelty and oppression, for lust or vanity, the price has to be paid at last, not always by the chief offenders, but paid by someone.” ~ James Anthony Froude (1818 – 94), British historian, novelist and biographer
I often wonder if the USA will pay for its misdeeds overseas (not just in Haiti) by the loss of its standing as a “great power”, and perhaps end up an economic, political and social shambles ... maybe even occupied partially or wholly by foreign “peacekeeping” troops ...
Report thisBy garth, February 10, 2010 at 9:52 am Link to this comment
Amy Goodman,
Thank you for being the conscience of what’s left of America.
On the McLaughlin show on PBS about two weeks ago, Monica Crowley and Pat Buchanan said that Aristide slipped out of the country with 900 million dollars. This was unchallenged by the left on the show, Eleanor What’s-her-face and Mortimer Zuckerman of U.S. News and World Report.
I went to a Swampscott Town Council meeting about 40 years ago where Mortimer representing Boston Properties wanted to tear down the New Ocean House and build a high rise condominium.
The 300 units, he assured the residents, Doctors and Lawyers, would not add to the traffic along Fisherman’s Beach.
As the wimpy group was about to go for it, Gerhardt Neumann, the Vice President of GE and a major employer of the engineers and scientists of Swampscott and the surrounding area spoke up in a stern Germnan accent. He said “This sight with its proposed height will block my view of the ocean.”
Mort, a man who suffered fools badly as proclaimed about him in a puff piece in the Boston Globe article, looked demoralized.
Zuckerman’s condos were never built.
It’s all about power. We have to take it back.
Report thisBy Jiggs, February 10, 2010 at 9:23 am Link to this comment
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Thank you, Amy. Haiti is a microcosm of what’s in
Report thisstore for the rest of us if we don’t get our acts
together. What we need is a planetary “jubilee” year,
where ALL debts, public and private, are forgiven. It’s
finally gotten to the point where I can no longer watch
cable news, or anything else. Between the
commercials and the nonsense and the lies, it’s no
longer an enjoyable experience. Haiti is an object
lesson. As far as the PTB are concerned, we’re all
expendable. If you think what we’re witnessing in
Haiti is bad, how bad would it be if, as evidence
continues to suggest, the earthquake was “no
accident”? (Keywords: seismic haarp ionosphere
resonance ELF patent)
By MW, February 10, 2010 at 9:07 am Link to this comment
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France should be required to repay every extorted penny, with interest.
Report thisBy gerald4, February 10, 2010 at 8:36 am Link to this comment
They need birth control more than anything else.
They have multiplied their population ten fold since the beginning of the last century.
Report thisBy bogi666, February 10, 2010 at 8:11 am Link to this comment
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Amy, many thanks for your steller service over the years. The USG has been terrified and bullied Haiti since its creation. The 1915 invasion to steal Haiti’s sugar when it supplied 1/2 of the world’s sugar to it’s CIA backed dictators which has transferred the wealth of Haiti to France, Canada, and the USA and them condemn Haitian’s as being incompetent. THAT THE USG WAS so TERRIFIED of a 120 lb Parish Priest democratically elected in 1991 and then repeatedly kidnapped and exiled to the point that Aristide cannot return to the Western Hemisphere. That the USG bullies Haiti means fear, bullies bully because they are afraid. That Aristide created such fear for the USG just proves that this country is ruled by amoral psychopath’s[corporations by law] and its similarities to the NAZI’S in 1930’s Germany is more than coincidence, it is planned and admitted too by former RNC chairman Ed Rollins in the mid 1990’s on TV when Rollins, during an impromtu interview at a Republican Party gathering by a local reporter, when Rollins was asked why the Republican Party’s regalia and gatherings wre so similiar to the tactics the NAZI’S used. Rollins reply, “if these tactics worked for the NAZI’s they will work for us[Republican Party} why wouldn’t we use the same tactics [the NAZI’S used”]. This interviews was conducted by a then local reporter who was astounded as was I. It happened mid week, mid day.
Report thisBy RAE, February 10, 2010 at 6:11 am Link to this comment
“The G-7 finance ministers met in Canada this week and announced the forgiveness of the bilateral debt between member states and Haiti.”
Nice gesture. Even nicer would have been to cancel the Winter Olympic GAMES and divert to Haiti the BILLIONS being spent on what is essentially a “field day” convention for those who think that devoting your life to being 1/100 of a second faster than anyone else IS A WORTHWHILE GOAL IN LIFE!
The priorities of the millions of money-grubbers on this planet are rather badly screwed up, wouldn’t you say?
Report thisBy ofersince72, February 9, 2010 at 9:08 pm Link to this comment
Unfortunatly Amy, good reporters like you are
always preaching to the choir.
Those screwball cable and network newscasters
Report thisare really on the verge of down rite criminal.