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Getting to Know Our Celebrity PresidentPosted on Sep 8, 2010By Ruth Marcus It was a jarring moment caused by an ordinarily smooth pol. Haley Barbour, governor of Mississippi, chairman of the Republican Governors Association and 2012 presidential prospect—a fact that helped explain the big turnout at a breakfast Wednesday sponsored by The Christian Science Monitor—was asked why so many people seem to believe that President Obama is Muslim. “I don’t know why people think what they think,” Barbour said. Fair enough. But then out came this odd statement: “This is a president that we know less about than any other president in history.” Really? Less than Benjamin Harrison? Franklin Pierce? By the time he launched his candidacy, Obama had written an autobiography and a second, more policy-oriented book threaded through with examples from his personal experience—though Barbour said he hasn’t read these. What is it, exactly, that we don’t know about him? After the formal session had concluded, Barbour elaborated on what he meant. “There is not much known about his time in college or growing up,” he said. Actually, governor, Obama has revealed a lot more than George W. Bush was willing to say about what he did when he was young and irresponsible. In “Dreams From My Father,” Obama discussed his drug use in high school and college—“Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it”—and his friendships with Marxist professors. Barbour, continuing, “We don’t know if he chopped down a cherry tree.” Uh, you might want to double-check on that tree thing. Advertisement During the breakfast, Barbour made clear that he did not subscribe to the wackadoodle view that Obama is a Muslim. “I accept just totally at face value that he is a Christian,” Barbour said. “He’s said so throughout the time he has been in public life. That’s good enough for me.” But was Barbour trying, none too subtly, to fan the flames of Obama-as-Muslim-Manchurian-candidate conspiracy theorists? I doubt it. A big piece of Barbour’s message was that the best way to run against Obama and the Democrats was head-on—on the economy, taxes and debt. Social issues and closet Muslims are so much distracting noise, as Barbour sees it. I don’t pretend to understand the mass delusion about Obama’s religion, most prevalent among members of Barbour’s party, but I suspect there is something significant in Barbour’s characterization of Obama as an unknown quantity. Except I would translate it this way: This discomfort, among a disturbing segment of Americans, is not that Obama is unknown as much as that he is unfamiliar. It’s not that, as Barbour put it, those who question Obama’s religion “just don’t know him”—it’s that they don’t know anyone like him. Barbour pointed to the fact of Obama’s brief tenure in public life, but this cannot be the real explanation. At another point in the session, Barbour was describing the potential advantages of non-career politicians such as his party’s nominee for governor of California, former eBay boss Meg Whitman. She’s not exactly a household name, but no one’s whispering that Whitman has a secret religion. This unfamiliarity mattered less to people when Obama was the anti-Bush than it does, perhaps, when he is the actual president presiding over an actual economy. That may help explain why the number of people who believe he is Muslim has grown since the election. Anxiety is the mother of conspiracy theories, and there is more than enough anxiety to go around right now. As for Barbour—maybe he could try reading one of the books by the man he might end up running against? Ruth Marcus’ e-mail address is marcusr(at symbol)washpost.com. © 2010, Washington Post Writers Group New and Improved CommentsIf you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy. |
By garth, September 13, 2010 at 8:44 am Link to this comment
Ya gotta love the title of this piece:
“Getting to Know Our Celebrity President”
That says it. Obama is well known, or famous, for being famous.
Like a Hollywood or New York personality.
He was handed the Nobel Peace Prize under exactly that criterion.
Performance-wise:
As a President, he has been given mixed praise for his Pro-Health Insrance Reform that backed down from a perceived threat from big PHRMA (My wife and I are now paying through the nose.); he has been criticized in knowledgeable circles for a Wall Street Reform that does nothing but reward the guilty and kick the can down the road for the next bailout; and resurfacing is the criticism of his Stimulus package for being to whimpy.
(I used to see signs all oer Somerville marking the site as part of the ERRT ‘Stimulus’ (I forget the letters). No one was ever working at those sites. There were just signs. Signs that cost the state $200,000. Not much, I know, but a new teacher at $35,000 or $40,000 might change some lives.)
The question will be amongst the ‘Talking Heads’: Was Obama more ‘celebrious’ than John Lennon or Bill Clinton? (Who cares about grammar anymore?).
He’s a goner. All the King’s horses and all the King’s men can’t put Obama together again.
How the underlying argument has been distorted
Fascism: according to Merriam Webster,
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Communism: The b part of the second definition also according to Merriam Webster
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production.
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In the US right now, what’s the difference. We the people don’t have control oer our goernment. Investors, corporations control the Government from the President on down. It’s for their good.
Obama seems to be more of a Wall Street guy; while the Republicans hold themselves up to be more of a large umbrella, they want to include big oil, agri-business, the extremely wealthy (unelecteds like the Hunt brothers and the Koch brothers, for examples) and the Wall Street investors.
William F. Buckley had a Firing Line program about the New York City Construction workers riot against Vietnam War protesters in the early 70s. As guests he a few hard hat workers who attacked the Peace Marchers. One of these gentlemen of the Hard Hat persuasion kept citing Tripoli as a reason for his umbrage. Buckley looked pained to listen to this fellow, as if he were wondering, “How did he get through our producer?”
The second and the third generation of this type are now protesting the mosque being built in NYC. They are conflating it with Abortion.
The Catholics and the Israelis are providing the ground cover for the money of the Koch brothers.
It looks to me like it’s all over. Democracy, that all folks!.
Soon, the advertising control over us will begin to voice the message that we, the worthies, are all citizens of the world. We have no interest in voting or in issues that affect the local plebieans.
Report thisBy garth, September 12, 2010 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment
Talk of Mississippi reminds me of a brief encounter I had in the early 60s. A friend and I were driving through Mississippi on our way to New Orleans. My friend’s car had Massachusetts plates, so as a precaution he taped a Stars & Bars to the hood.
Anyway, we stopped for gas outside Jackson, and I asked the attendant how far it was to Jackson. He said, “30 minutes.”
I said, “Just a half an hour?
He replied, “Nope. 30 minutes.
I thought that the flag might been a good idea after all, like an insurance policy.
Report thisBy anaman51, September 12, 2010 at 12:50 pm Link to this comment
Above and beyond everything else you can say about Haley Barbour, he’s a citizen of Mississippi. That in itself means there’s a one-in-three chance he’s incapable of reading Obama’s autobiography due to illiteracy. Education isn’t held in very high esteem there, if school funding and student testing are any indication.
This is the guy who wholeheartedly supported taking those lazy, worthless disabled Mississippi residents off the vital financial support they needed to live. State Medicaid was gutted on his watch. Among those dumped from the rolls were the blind, those with life-threatening birth defects, and everyone who was irretrievably hurt on the job and had no other source of income. Apparently they were not worthy of life in his estimation.
This creep is the epitome of all the reasons why the Republicans should never be allowed to change anything related to the health and care services of other human beings—-they simply don’t care if we live or die! Even if you voted Republican, you get screwed just like the rest. In his opinion, if you get hurt to the extent that you can no longer generate money with which to pay taxes, then you have no right to keep on living. He is the worst possible representation of a presidential candidate—-or a decent, caring human being—-I have ever seen.
Report thisBy berniem, September 12, 2010 at 10:22 am Link to this comment
Was Haley born an idiot or was he an honor student in the confederate schools of America? Sadly, there is a large group of people in this nation who’ll take his statements as fact. Someone should dumb down Obama’s autobiography and other accounts of his life to maybe a 3rd or 4th grade level so that these salt-of-the-earth, all-American patriots can read for themselves!
Report thisBy garth, September 11, 2010 at 12:15 pm Link to this comment
Thanks, ofersince72. I looked up the bill on the Gov. website.
Most of the first part of it is listed as [Stuck out].
But later, it gets to describing who will be overlooking this bill and the punative measures.
However, I am sure that hidden in all this governmentalese gobblegook, it’s hidden exactly what you say. We will have to depend on ‘Big Brother’ for our food safety.
And, indeed, it is strange. In the after flux of 1/2 billion eggs being recalled from factory farms in Iowa (500,000,000 eggs. Gadzooks!), the home of Charles Grassly, the bill leaves factory farms untouched. I wonder where the DeCoster egg money went?
Hmmmm, on further thought: I wonder if this egg recall is similar to the flu shot panic that was pushed by our government last winter?
The incredible, inedible egg?
But don’t be alarmed, it’s only the Farmer’s Markets that will be affected. And Oh, yes, if you grow too many tomatoes and give them to neighbors, you might be affected as well.
It has a great section on whistleblowers. If your neighbor has it in for you, and if you give your excess tomato crop to someone, then you might be in for a visit from Homeland Security. And pay a hefty fine.
Fees, fees, fees. That’s how they’ll keep this program alive. Pay to grow a summer garden. Pay to sell organic crops to city-dwellers.
Three cheers for Rosa DeLauro, Congresswoman from CT and her husband Stanley ‘Stash’ Greenberg, lobbysist for Monsanto.
Oh, yes, Monsanto will provide the seeds for all the growers. They’ll be good for one growth, and then again maybe not. I tried to grow zucchini. got flowers, no zucchini.
In the meanwhile, Robert Kraft owner of the NE Patriots has a flock of chickens that he takes with him to his Norhtern home and to his Southern home. (Rich people do not Summer in the same place where they Winter.) He’s avoiding the factory farming stunt of eating chicken that have been fed with Growth Hormones and others drugs that we have to eat.
But, that’s what we’re here for. Their entertainment.
Obama might say a flock of fuckin’ chickens in every garage and for those who’ve been foreclosed, a pot to piss in. Let’s hear it for Hoover!
Also, let’s cheer post racial Americans. Hooray!
Now, let’s elect a woman, or if it’s just color, how about a red one. That’s it, a native American. How about a yellow one or a brown one.
After 40 or so white guys and black facsimile, how can we do any worse?
Report thisLet’s get back to Government of the people by the people and for the people.
By ofersince72, September 11, 2010 at 2:45 am Link to this comment
Please, while they are diverting us with things
like mosquedebating and Koran burning , here is what
they plan on doing
S510 and its House version
HR 2749 by Dingell..The Athority to Prohibit or Restrict
the movement of food bill.
Please find a place to sign the petition to STOP THIS.
Report thisIt will essentially make it illegal for you to grow or
eat a tomato out of your own garden.
It will make in illegally impossible for a small truck
farmer to grow and sell vetegables, or you either.
Please research S510..
they are about to have UNANIMOUS CONSENT VOTE on this bill
that means no debate.
The petition held it up for a while , that is why th
U.C. vote.
I believe the petition might be found at
healthfreedomUSA.org
IT IS THE LAST ACT OF TOTAL GLOBALIZATION AND THE FINAL
NAIL IN THE COFIN. MAKES THE PATRIOT ACT LOOK GOOD ! !
By mrfreeze, September 11, 2010 at 2:15 am Link to this comment
Forgive me for asking the obvious but why is it that the Media publishes things that
Report thisEVERYONE knows are false….....I thought the job of journalists was to research and
report the facts. Regurgitating the lies of a public figure for the purpose of generating
more revenue and to blatantly mislead the public is unethical, unproductive and vile.
Sometimes I truly hate the media.
By garth, September 10, 2010 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment
Forget the celebrity President. We should get to know our government. The ones that watch the Internet and attach GPS devices to cars.
Somehow, Amy Goodman’s piece on the five Arabs who’e been refused the right to sue the government has been taken down, After about 8 comments.
It was even removed from my in box.
Could it be the mention of the 5 Cubans sitting it out in Federal prison in Florida for coming to the US to watch over the right-wing Cubans who might be planning some terrists acts?
Could it reveal a linkage to Jeb Bush, or Judge Feldman and his ruling in favor of BP, or Karl Rove’s protege keeping Seigleman in jeopardy in Alabama?
Or did George W. complete his real purpose: fill the Judiciary with like minded hacks?
What’s scaring these nosy people? Why are they acting like low-life pilferers?
Report thisBy garth, September 10, 2010 at 11:40 am Link to this comment
Robert Scheer talked about Obama’s ‘stunning victory’. Ruth Marcus talks about a ‘jarring moment’.
Journalistic cliche? What is a victory if not ‘stunning.? What is a moment if not ‘jarring’?
The old saying goes, All’s fair in love and war. And I’ll add politics.
If the left wants to whine about who called Obama this or who called him that, it just points out the lack of commitment to victory.
David Boies, Gore’s attorney in the infamous 2000 Gore V. Bush Supreme Court judgement, pointed after the ruling that they’ll continue to win because they are willing to do anything and say anything.
I guess we have the god of ‘good intentions’ on our side. We mean well. Dorgan can talk about his Huffy bike and Obey can rest assured that he can rest assured in retirement.
And we can chant as they go by in the inaugural parade, “Call me this and call me that and call yourself a dirty rat.”
People are waking up to the fact that all you think you know about any of these aberrants personalities is propaganda.
Both sides are screwing us, royally.
Report thisThey’re not worth a bucket of spit, except to the the ruling class, the financiers, corporate CEOs, and the war industry moguls.
By Maani, September 9, 2010 at 8:31 pm Link to this comment
Maybe the title of this article should have been “Getting To Know Our Ignorant Right-Wing Demagogues.”
Report thisBy garth, September 9, 2010 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment
Now, that we’ve elected our first black (african-American President), why can’t we ask him to sit down and we’ll take it from here.
He’s doing an impersonation of a cross between Fred Armissen doing Barack Obama of Saturday Night Live and Ted Kennedy in his desperate attempt to defeat Carter in the 76 Primary.
In the end, David Cay Johnston said all on DemocracyNow! this morning. If he’s a one term President, it’ll be because he sat on his haunches and his wimpy Stimulus bill.
I think we’ve seen enough. He’s in over his head. He’s a bum-kisser. He’s a zero, maybe worse.
Thanks Mr. First African-American, but there’s the door.
Report thisBy Jean Gerard, September 9, 2010 at 11:30 am Link to this comment
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“Anxiety is the mother of conspiracy theories and there is more than enough
anxiety to go around these days.” That’s just about the only sentence worth
repeating and/or thinking about in this article. The rest is potentially
inflammatory fluff, in my opinion.
It would be more interesting and worthwhile (again IMO) to develop the motif
Report thisabove for the benefit of the many people (most of them not on TD) who don’t
understand the long-term public effects of widespread anxieties—how easy it is
for demagogues to turn fear into rage.
By Inherit The Wind, September 9, 2010 at 11:12 am Link to this comment
A right-wing-neo-con, neo-fascist spouts a lie and it will get picked up a 100 times, a thousand times, a million times, then ten million times by the Fox-led right-wing “pundits” and their ditto-heads. Out of fear of being turned-on, the Republicans in the House and Senate will all pick up on that same lie and keep repeating it so that, for the weak-minded and intellectually lazy it will become “the truth”.
“Least known”? How many people know that Buchanan was actively Gay? Or that Garfield could write in Latin with one hand and Greek with the other—simultaneously? Or that James K. Polk was on Truman’s list of Greatest Presidents, and kept every one of his campaign promises (the only one who did)?
More Right-wing extremist lies.
Report thisBy grousefeather, September 9, 2010 at 8:30 am Link to this comment
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Haley who?
Report thisBy FiftyGigs, September 9, 2010 at 4:40 am Link to this comment
“an ordinarily smooth pol”
Careful. Stick to the storyline. Conservatives are smooth and capable. Infer that liberals are bumbling novices.
Actually, I just saw my first picture of Haley in many years. The guy looks very unhealthy. A little slimy, frankly. You know, the kind of person who, after you shake their hand, you want to wash yours?
How about some journalism devoted to how this man has deteriorated, instead of something bolstering his image? Maybe some speculation about how is conscience and sick soul are eating him alive?
You know, something reality-based?
Oh well. Guess I’m stuck with bumbling, novitiate, liberal journalism. Let’s read on.
Oh good! The rest of the article is about this man’s view of Obama. Good news! HE doesn’t think Obama’s a Muslim, lest we liberals forget that THAT issue is still on the hotplate. Good good journalism. Thanks.
Oh, and Haley aspires to be President! Well, nothing like free publicity from the liberal media, huh.
Wait a minute. Am I on a conservative website here?
Report thisBy ofersince72, September 8, 2010 at 10:29 pm Link to this comment
Then why even give them any space in the WAPO??
cuz dats ur job, keep da polaticys of divide goin
ruthy.
you not make a good jr high school newspaper journalist
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