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Posted on Dec 8, 2010
AP / Lennart Preiss

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange speaks during a press conference in London on Oct. 23.

By Robert Scheer

All you need to know about Julian Assange’s value as a crusading journalist is that The New York Times and most of the world’s other leading newspapers have led daily with important news stories based on his WikiLeaks releases. All you need to know about the collapse of traditional support for the constitutional protection of a free press is that Dianne Feinstein, the centrist Democrat who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, has called for Assange “to be vigorously prosecuted for espionage.”

Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Feinstein, who strongly supported the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, has the audacity to call for the imprisonment of the man who, more than any other individual, has allowed the public to learn the truth about those disastrous imperial adventures—facts long known to Feinstein as head of the Intelligence Committee but never shared with the public she claims to represent. 

Feinstein represents precisely the government that Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he said, in defense of unfettered freedom of the press, “[W]ere it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.”

In the 1787 letter in which he wrote those words, Jefferson was reflecting the deep wisdom of a political leader who often had been excoriated by a vicious press that would make the anarchist-inflected comments of an Assange seem mild in comparison. More than 35 years later, after having suffered many more vitriolic press attacks, Jefferson reiterated his belief in a free press, in all its vagaries, as the foundation of a democracy. In an 1823 letter to Lafayette, Jefferson warned: “The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted to be freely expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure.”

It is precisely that agitation that so alarms Feinstein, for the inconvenient truths she has concealed in her Senate role would have indeed shocked many of those who voted for her. She knew in real time that Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack, yet she voted to send young Americans to kill and be killed based on what she knew to be lies. It is her duplicity, along with the leaders of both political parties, that now stands exposed by the WikiLeaks documents. 

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That is why U.S. governmental leaders will now employ the massive power of the state to discredit and destroy Assange, who dared let the public in on the depths of official deceit—a deceit that they hide behind in making their claims of protecting national security. Claims mocked by released cables that show that our puppets in Iraq and Afghanistan are deeply corrupt and anti-democratic, and that al-Qaida continues to find its base of support not in those countries but rather in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, the very nations we arm and protect. The notion that the official tissue of lies enhances our security is rejected by the growing strength of radical Islam in the region, as evidenced by the success of Iran, the main beneficiary of our invasion of Iraq, as the leaked cables make clear. 

The pretend patriots who use the national security argument to gut what remains of our most important security asset—our constitutional guarantees of a truly free press—are just what President George Washington feared when in his farewell address he warned “against the mischiefs of foreign intrigue, to guard against the Impostures of pretended patriotism. …”

The pretended patriotism of Feinstein, the first Democrat to co-sponsor the bill extending the U.S. Patriot Act, represents the death of the Democratic Party as a protector of our freedoms. As a California resident, I will not vote for her again, no matter how dastardly a right-wing Republican opponent she might face. There is no lesser evil to be found in one who would so cavalierly imprison practitioners of a free press.

That is the issue here, pure and simple. It is unconscionable to target Assange for publishing documents on the Internet that mainstream media outlets have attested had legitimate news value. As in the historic case in which Daniel Ellsberg gave The New York Times the Pentagon Papers exposé of the official lies justifying the Vietnam War, Assange is acting as the reporter here, and thus his activities must be shielded by the First Amendment’s guarantee of journalistic freedom. 

Actually Ellsberg’s position, as morally strong as it was, was weaker than that of Assange, in that the former Marine and top Pentagon adviser was working at the government-funded Rand Corp., where he had agreed to rules about the handling of classified information, including the Pentagon Papers. Assange operates under no such restraints and is an even clearer example of the journalist who ferrets out news and attempts to report it. He had no special clearance that provided him access, and what he did was no different from what the editors of The New York Times did in publishing news that was fit to print.

It is outrageous for any journalist, or respecter of what every American president has claimed is our inalienable, God-given right to a free press, not to join in Assange’s defense on this issue, as distinct from what increasingly appear to be trumped-up charges that led to his voluntary arrest on Tuesday in London in a case involving his personal behavior. Abandon Assange and you abandon the bedrock of our republic: the public’s right to know.

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By skimohawk, December 29, 2010 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment
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“A rising tide lifts all boats” is actually only half of the quote.
The part they always leave out is “Turds always float to the top if they have enough fat content.”

To those of you calling for charging and prosecuting for war crimes G.W. Bush, D. Cheney, D. Rumsfeld, P. Wolfowitz, et al: please also remember the names of Richard N. Perle and William H. Kristol, who were as much part and parcel of the Iraq-Afghanistan debacle as any of the others.

To the guy wearing the funny hat in his avatar: Thank you for continuing to point out the DIRECT CONNECTIONS between the National Socialist Party and the Bush Family ( not to mention innumerable U.S. corporations. )

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By drbhelthi, December 26, 2010 at 3:38 am Link to this comment

“General Anthony McAuliffe’s response to them at Bastogne.To paraphrase:“Nuts to you!”

A genuine response reflects the hypocrisy and superficiality of any “blessing” from a self-righteous hypocrite-type.  Such is the scourge of the U.S.

Which “blessing” has as much value as a fart in a tornado.  Which “fart” reflects the stance of the U.S. Gov. since the NAZI/GHWBSr takeover.

Obama ?
Just one more CIA puppet.

Get with it, PATRIOTS !!!

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By Jean McKay, December 25, 2010 at 7:19 pm Link to this comment
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Dear Robert Scheer:
I agree re Feinstein.  I will never again vote for such outrageous hypocrisy and disservice to those she represents.  (And I so remember when she took over as mayor of S.F. after the horrific Moscone/Milk murders.  It’s so tragic how she lost her way.)
I also feel this way re Obama.  I’d rather not vote for a deceiving hypocrite who abandoned those who somehow believed in him.  Ditto, Biden. Ditto Clintons, et. al.
I must say, what a hideous betrayal to realize.  It’s shattering to say the least.

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By oddsox, December 25, 2010 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

drbhelthi, gee, I didn’t expect a rebuttal to my wish of blessings upon you.

But it’s Christmas.
And, since you brought up Nazis, perhaps you’re more comfortable with General Anthony McAuliffe’s response to them at Bastogne.
To paraphrase:
“Nuts to you!”

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By dcweiser, December 25, 2010 at 1:32 pm Link to this comment

Here is the link.—D.W.

https://www.democracynow.org/

Friday, December 24, 2010
Dr. Gabor Maté on the Stress-Disease Connection,
Addiction, Attention Deficit Disorder and the
Destruction of American Childhood

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By drbhelthi, December 25, 2010 at 3:48 am Link to this comment

“drbhelthi, we may see things differently, but bless you anyway—thanks for your civility. 
Again, Merry Christmas!”

Right.
“- - but bless you anyway.”

It is this presumption of “goodness” or authority that has led Americans down the primrose path.  It is this presumption of “I am superior to you, and have the authority to bestow blessing on you” that has undermined the citizenry of the Western World.  It is this presumed “self-righteousness” that has turned off an approximate 80% of the world against “Americans” and the fraudulent form of democracy that accompanies this stance. 

Persons who demonstrate their stance in this particular mud-puddle of the larger quagmire, cannot comprehend the actuality of the western world and the WWII NAZI heritage that has overtaken it.  This group demands, “- don´t confuse me with the facts ! “

The old song, from six generations ago, “We will understand it better bye and bye,” suggests for many persons, that it will not occur in this life.

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By oddsox, December 24, 2010 at 8:37 pm Link to this comment

deweiser, thank you.  I didn’t see your link to today’s Democracy Now/Gabor Mate piece, but found these 4 links to Amy Goodman’s February interview with Mate’, also on the Democracy Now program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z6ZlHElFCs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W16x6u6h5E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIUgSFj-03g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU7NtLVEgbc&feature=related

Very worthwhile viewing.  I’m no doctor, but the mind-body connection makes perfect sense to me. 
I would add that a good and loving spouse deserves much credit for bringing stress messages to our attention—for those of us so blessed. 

deweiser, I’m recommending the Goodman/Mate’ interview to all my extremist, alarmist, fear-based commentator friends. LOL.

“When the Body Says ‘No’” sound like a facinating read, too.

Merry Christmas to you as well, Dennis.

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By oddsox, December 24, 2010 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment

drbhelthi, we may see things differently, but bless you anyway—thanks for your civility. 
Again, Merry Christmas!

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By dcweiser, December 24, 2010 at 5:07 pm Link to this comment

oddsox and some of the other alarmist, extremist,
fear-based commentators here would greatly benefit
from and should watch today’s (Christmas Eve)
Democracy Now! YouTube interview with Canadian
physician and best-selling author, Gabor Maté. [Link
below] You will find it not merely professionally and
personally rewarding but Dr. Maté‘s insights into
mind-body healing, our disastrous social abandoning
of children and education under Amy Goodman’s
penetrating questions will provide you with spiritual
illumination and genuine guidance in the New Year.
Maté independently confirms Alice Miller’s central
thesis that all societal violence is rooted in child
abuse by clarifying and explaining the neurological-
environmental dimension of child development as it
relates to the role of stress in disease, ADD and
ADHD, post-partum depression in both mothers and
fathers, the immune system and emotions, drug
addiction, bullying and the biologically and
sociologically unprecedented development in the US in
which our teens now seek their role models among
their peers rather than among adult caretakers. I
believe you will find this interview truly stunning,
enlightening, shocking and fruitful.

Dr. Gabor Maté is a Hungarian Jew who grew up in
Budapest when the Nazis invaded Hungary in 1944; and
he lost many relatives in Auschwitz. So he has
firsthand knowledge of the connections between stress
and mental health. Like me, Maté was diagnosed late
in life with the ADD from which he had suffered
lifelong.

Many blessings to everyone in the coming 2011,
Dennis Weiser

Watch my documentary series, “AMERICAN WEIMAR”, on
YouTube

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By drbhelthi, December 24, 2010 at 4:28 pm Link to this comment

“Alas, that said - -.”

Indeed, alas that it was said.

After over twenty-eight years on the inside, my
viewpoint differs from yours.

Considerably.

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By oddsox, December 24, 2010 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment

LocalHero, the “wiser-than-thou” tactics you employ are shopworn and an ineffective smokescreen for your desire to avoid honest debate.

drbhelthi, no, certainly not a prediction. And Hillary knows better than most—she’d probably get a good chuckle reading this thread. 
My point is that just as Sarah Palin isn’t now nor never will be President (even if the Repubs are dumb enough to nominate her), neither is Assange a journalist. 

Assange showns no restraint, no conscience & no pretence of ethics. He just passes along info.
So he’s not a journalist, he’s a fence.
He’s not a crusader, he’s a pirate.

Not being a real journalist (investigative or otherwise), Assange doesn’t seek independent corroboration, does no fact-checking, asks no follow-up questions. So when you read the various cables, emails and communiques he releases, there is no assurance that any of them are the Truth. He is the ripest conduit imaginable for Misinformation.

I know guys like Scheer and Andy Greenberg like to romanticize Assange as some kind of cyber-Robin Hood, but he’s just an unprincipled criminal in my book.

The irony is Assange will likely be put away for something completely unrelated (as with OJ for the armed robbery of his own memorabilia).
It wouldn’t surprise me if the sex charges are a set up, but I cannot find pity for guys like him.

As for Bradley Manning, I hear he can only get 52 years max, so I hope he lives only long enough to use ‘em all up in Leavenworth. 

Alas, that said, Merry Christmas to all.

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By drbhelthi, December 24, 2010 at 6:33 am Link to this comment

“Julian Assange is a journalist as Sarah Palin is the
President.”

A subtle prediction of the next U.S.president, perhaps?

Was it a result of ESP faculties?  Or Brainstorming?

Or a simple attempt to anger the Rockefeller/Bush clan
and their current actress, AXIS Hillary?

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By LocalHero, December 24, 2010 at 4:22 am Link to this comment

oddsox, you either didn’t bother to read, or you’re too stupid to understand, this article. Excuse yourself now; there are grown-ups in the room.

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By oddsox, December 18, 2010 at 6:55 pm Link to this comment
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Julian Assange is a journalist as Sarah Palin is the President.

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By oddsox, December 18, 2010 at 2:39 pm Link to this comment
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Julian Assange is to Journalism what Sarah Palin is to the Presidency.

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By garth, December 15, 2010 at 2:02 pm Link to this comment

I just watched Amy Goodman’s interview with John Pilger on DemcracyNow! I rest assured that the assault on humnaity as we know it will subside.  The virtuous press will get on the case.  Or as Beeny Hill used to say, “Put more men on the job.”

The whole process is like a ratchet wrench.  The powerful give the wrench a turn or two.  The peasants scream.  And if they scream loud enough, the signal for ‘Trouble ahead’ goes out.

Here’s where that call to the Press, the Fourth Estate, as it were, goes out.  The subtext of all this is stop us, we’re out of control.  Help us get beneath the headlines.

But until someone with a microphome steps up and rallies the troops, the powers who started this trouble feel spellbound to continue their overturning of the United States of America, where every rich man’s appetites are sated.

Watch! In the upcoming months and years, you’ll see that we have been ratcheted closer to a Banana Republic.  Instead of Secretary’s Day, we’ll initiate a ‘Thanks to the Boss Day’.

In otra mot, if you let him feel your ass and kiss your teats while he whacks off in his office after hours, then he’ll learn your first name and take you out to lunch.

Glory Be.

What’s not obvious about this crap?  In my Greedja Board, they have headings like Wall Street Scam, Corporate Scrooge, Ponzi Scheme a la Madoff and a few others. 

Is all this something new?  Or was everyone born last night and just fell off a turnip truck?

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By garth, December 15, 2010 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

elisalouisa, December 15 at 4:56 pm Link to this comment

garth “I talked with an ardent Republican yesterday, a very well education Correction: educated) engineer who went to a Jesuit school and became very successful in the Defense Contracting business, and he thinks Assange ought to assassinated.”

I can personally verify that such thinking is not limited to Catholics and is more prevalent than one would like to believe.” 

I agree.  I am not singling out Catholics.  I focus on them because they seem to be the cabal that is making the most noise of late.

The others are:  Wall Street financiers, the military brass, and the Corporate interests. This last group consists of the Wall Street Financiers (nothing new here), the West Coast Agri-business, and last but not least, Israel (with AIPAC and B’nai Brith).

What comes through loud and clear is that the American people, the voters, are no longer in the equation.  Elections are moot.  Cash is king! Vote your wallet is the new cry.

And the cabals are holding a Royal Flush, why should they take a card.  They don’t seem to want to show their hand just yet. 

Maybe with President Bumptious, they’re hoping for more and more after that.  They want ‘Progressives’ to back down and say again, “He is our first Black President.  Aren’t we post-racial?  Aren’t we great?

If you want to take issue with some picayune comment here, then watch as your favorite focus groups falter or surge in the upcoming news stories. 

They are all about the same thing.  It’s not that they don’t care.  It is that they are barely human.

But, we are the water they are the tropical fish.

They live off us.  It’s like their personalized teat of the Mother-of-Creation, and it is being suckled by the bullies.  They are the ones who thrive on fear.

As Jesse Ventura said in one of his shows, “I was trained as a Navy Seal, I don’t carry that fear with me.”

Why do we, Farful?

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By elisalouisa, December 15, 2010 at 11:56 am Link to this comment

garth “I talked with an ardent Republican yesterday, a very well
education engineer who went to a Jesuit school and became very successful in the
Defense Contracting business, and he thinks Assange ought to assassinated.”

I can personally verify that such thinking is not limited to Catholics and is more prevalent than one would like to believe. 

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By garth, December 15, 2010 at 11:14 am Link to this comment

“Oh?
Then why are four of the secret lockups in “Europe” still manned?  Perhaps less often - - ?”  by drbhelthi,
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We don’t talk about them.  They’re for Arabs and noisy American dissidents of foreign descent.  Like Padilla and some others.

We’re safe.  As the poem about the Third Reich made clear, we have nothing to complain about till they come for us.

Right now, with guys like the newly elected Congressman, Allen West, from Florida, and as long as you can play Mickey the Dunce you’ll be safe.  After all, he wants to purge the press.  And the press can be jettisoned.  They weren’t much good anyway.

Just give us jobs.  Instead of Green jobs, we’ll take Brown jobs, or in the vernacular, a shit job.  Like Bush’s response to a woman who said she was working three jobs, “Isn’t that uniquely American.”

Instead of gossip about the limp-wristed, sadistic Dipomatic Corps, let’s see some sordid cables on the four prisons you mentioned and the one at Bagram AFB.

They will succeed by just fucking with our minds because Americans have a special brand of Stupid.  I talked with an ardent Republican yesterday, a very well education engineer who went to a Jesuit school and became very successful in the Defense Contracting business, and he thinks Assange ought to assassinated.  Secrets, you see.

I guess a Catholic education no longer implies Christianity.

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By drbhelthi, December 15, 2010 at 4:20 am Link to this comment

“- - They don’t haul people away anymore.  They fuck with their minds and their expectations.” by garth

Oh?
Then why are four of the secret lockups in “Europe” still manned?  Perhaps less often - - ?

Messing with minds? Continuously.
The NAZI/Bush/Obama Demagarchy continues to try to gain expertise with MKUltra,
mind-boggling techniques.  Seems to be working in reverse, confusing insiders more than outsiders-?
Except in the case of historically-aggressive insiders, when they dissent, such as ambassador Holbrooke. 
For whom other techniques “lie in waiting.”

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By racetoinfinity, December 14, 2010 at 9:52 pm Link to this comment

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/post_1394_b_795001.html?ir=Yahoo

Read Naomi Wolf’s post at Huffpost:  “Espionage Act: How the Government Can Engage in Serious Aggression Against the People of the United States”

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By racetoinfinity, December 14, 2010 at 9:46 pm Link to this comment

I’m now firmly in the “truther” camp.  I wavered for a long time, but the evidence (for instance of thermite in the rubble) is too overwhelming, now.  It was an inside-job super-“shock” to create grounds for invading the Middle East/Caspian Sea area and to highly accelerate/expand the National Security State via the “war on terror” Orwellian fake permanent war meme, of course, always to enrich the plutocratic war machine Daddy and Mommy Warbucks, and keep turning the country into a third world one; with most of their money overseas, the plutocracy won’t mind if the dollar tanks.

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Naomi Wolf’s post at Huffpost:  “Espionage Act: How the Government Can Engage in Serious Aggression Against the People of the United States”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/post_1394_b_795001.html?ir=Yahoo

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By garth, December 14, 2010 at 5:29 pm Link to this comment

The 9/11 attacks were purely bombast.  But that was all that was needed to create a mindset of terror in the populace.

Bush said, “Go shopping.”  But to the Controller’s dismay and sooner than later, the after effects of 9/11 wore off.  People even began to question the official story.

So, where do they from here.  A few fucked-up terrorists attacks?  That hasn’t worked quite as well as I think they hoped.

They needed something acutely intelligent, something with legs.  A news bonanza.

Voila, Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.

One side says kill him.  The other side says transparency!  Cheers for Julian.

He was charged with not following a woman’s orders of wearing a condom.  He released a diplomatic Gossip column.  Wlater Winchell, cross out Matt Drudge, and give us Julian Assange.

On another thread, Ohgodnotagain, (sp?) tells of a trip to Yugoslavia where some young guys smuggled Levis. And again on the same post, someone warns of our entering a dark period. 

The former story sort of lessens the threat of the latter’s prediction.

But I agree with one thing, it is going to go that far. The darkest hour is just before everything goes black.  They don’t haul people away anymore.  They fuck with their minds and their expectations.

I have stopped scratching my head, wondering what’s going on, and I have started to look at options to smuggle cocaine to Mexico and prescription drugs into Canada.

Eruption is the word of the day.

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By drbhelthi, December 14, 2010 at 5:20 am Link to this comment

Change 1 to my post, drbhelthi, December 13 at 8:41 pm

My post is altered to include a third group.

3. Zionist puppetry who bust their brains in order to demean and criticize without appearing to blatantly criticize.  Another form of their consistent deceit. Some even attempt to translate valid,
scientific info, suppressed by their organization, into amusement.
Their totality = Disinformation. (Partnership with the NAZI/CIA?)

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By Kath Cantarella, December 14, 2010 at 4:53 am Link to this comment
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There’s a secret grand jury somewhere secretly doing something secret?

So I thought about what I would do if I was a corrupt lawyer with no respect for the rule of law who had an outspoken political ‘enemy’ on holding charges overseas who had broken no laws of my country, but whom I wanted extradited from a country whose extradition treaty purposefully excludes political offences. Right now I would be trying to create enough legal and evidential confusion in the case to suggest that my political ‘enemy’ hacked the Pentagon instead of simply receiving files from an informer. As this involves contact with my country’s computer systems it gives me jurisdiction over the alleged hacker, and as this computer charge falls outside political charges it would mean that the foreign country could extradite him to mine under the treaty. The ‘evidence’ will be false, or someone else’s crime re-attributed to my victim, but as convincing as I can make it.
If I was a corrupt conscienceless lawyer who believed my government was above the law, all laws, that is what I’d do.
So you guys got enough coffee over there? Can I order some take-out for ya?

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By ardee, December 13, 2010 at 4:52 pm Link to this comment

For the record: I am a liberal. This is only to produce the point that our history is messy, and the hagiographies of our founders are largely myth and fantasy.

blueshift, December 10 at 2:25 pm

Well, you may certainly call yourself whatever you choose. Ill let your posts define who you are, and liberal certainly fails to come to mind. A thread with you and Drbhelthi present certainly doesnt lack in entertainment value I think.

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By garth, December 13, 2010 at 4:14 pm Link to this comment

From Tesla to Assange?

Lyndon LaRouche talks about the ‘flux’ of something or other to solve the world’s energy problem.

Esoterica will topple this discussion.

I do note, however, that Assange’s assanges have lost their news interest in the latest cycle.  Where is Julian?

So, what do you think about the second Law of Thermodynamics?  I think it should be repealed, along with the outcomes of the last three elections.

We want a recount from 2000 and 2004.  As far as Mr. Bumptious Obama is concerned, maybe we should start from the point where Kucinich dropped out.  I voted for McKinney, Cynthia in the primary.

I am free from feeling that I have been fooled.  I said it all along. 

And you know who said it in print?  Webster Tarpley.  Buy his books on Obama.  It’s a little late but they might help in future elections.  That along with Ralph Nader’s admonition: Vote your conscience.

Overthrowing the US might be more than they can handle and more than they think they can do.  A lot of city and county and state governments and a lot of local energized citizens means a lot of money.  I don;t think that these cheap bastards are willing to spare it.  And that is where fellows like Heinrich von Hemenchlemmer or of Cordell Oklahoma will enter in.  He won’t go for this shit.  And the trickle down will start to trickle up.  I predict.

Tarpley nailed it to a ‘T’.

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By drbhelthi, December 13, 2010 at 3:41 pm Link to this comment

“LOL, that is some precious B.S..  Are you trying to
be elected baffoon of the year?”  by: glider

Precious information, perhaps.  B.S.? Not Hardly.
“Elected baffoon of the year”  More election B.S.?

“Baffoon” perhaps, to two groups of people:
1. Those who are ignorant of discoveries and
inventions of Nicola Tesla, 80 yrs ago, and
activities in Area 51 that have been underway since
1970.
2. The hired imps of the USGov paid to continue to
attempt to suppress the info in 1., plus similar
info, while hyping the idea that Iran poses a threat.

Criticism typically mirrors ignorance, and is the
cheapest mode of making oneself feel important.

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By garth, December 13, 2010 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment

John Pilger quoted a Russian journalist as saying that the Russian press didn’t believe anything from the government until their final denial.

The US government has moved one step closer than the Russians.  You can’t believe anything from the US government until the first ‘self-serving releases.’

If you look at WikiLeaks releases in the last week, they are all self-serving.

Ertogan critcises Israel for murdering Turkish citizens on the Mavi Marmara. 

Self-serving statements—The latest release puts Ertogan in an embarrassing light.

The only US sponsored coups that worked was in Honduras.  The coup attempt in Ecuador failed and Rafael Correa came out with a statement that the new alliance of Ecuador, Bolivia, Venezuela, Argentina and Brazil will stay united against the US diplomacy ‘solutions’.

What do the self-serving mollusks do?  They say Zelaya, the deposed leader of Honduras who sponsored better working conditions and higher wages for the Hondurans, is now linked to organized crime?

It’s all so obvious and all so laughable.

The US diplomatic corps are not underpaid.  In a sense they are like Catholic priests.  They are not millionaires but they live like one.

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The US business of cabals

The alcoholic, cry baby, Boehner, the incoming Speaker of the House, seemed to startle the wench wannabe Leslie Stahl of 60 Minutes when he said he was a friend of Edward ‘Ted’, ‘Liberal Lion’ Kennedy.  Kennedy was a Catholic and a memeber of the Catholic Cabal.  Kennedy was no liberal.  He was a shouter, not a whimperer, and just like Boehner, he was a self-serving drunk. 

Tip to Boehner: To return to a human color, stop drinking.  Works wonders.

The rich have latched on to the never-drying teat of the American worker.


Warning:

In the Sunday Globe’s Ideas section (12/12), an interview featured an Indian intellectual describing his study of Slavery as a business model.  They didn’t broach the illegality of slavery until half-way through the Q&A.

Slavery might notbe that far away.  They might call it ‘Career Orienteering’ to get the young to go along with it, or they might pose it as a question, “What else you gonna do?” to get the lazy, unemployed baby-boomers off their asses.


Compassion:

Now, I am beginning to get the feeling we will learn how the African American’s and the indigenous Americans felt.  We, heretofore paid workers, the mother’s milk of the Capitalist cry-babies, will have to work for work’s sake.

The cabals will need to unite because something about these press releases tells me that they are still in their wont of fooling the rest of us to go-along with their cockmamie ideas.

The financial and corporate CEOs are meeting with the empty suit, Obama, on Wednesday.  I’d like to be a fly on the wall.

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drbhelthi,

“when our best scientists scarcely understand the
common principles of “propulsion” of “extra-
terrestrials,” and have only touched the surface of
light-ray-devices”

LOL, that is some precious B.S..  Are you trying to be elected baffoon of the year?

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By drbhelthi, December 13, 2010 at 8:31 am Link to this comment

Disinformation.
Israeli-Hebrew history for over 5,000 years, NAZI
puppets in Germany, NAZI puppet “Bush” family in the
USA (Scherff aus Doerlitzsch/Nasdorf, Germany), NAZI-
CIA around the world. Zionist Federal Reserve & their
trained bankers, who have sucked the USA dry - except
for the suitcases of counterfeit $100 dollar bills
passed out by select CIA imps - which have no real-
value backing - .

When our best scientists scarcely understand the
common principles of “propulsion” of “extra-
terrestrials,” and have only touched the surface of
light-ray-devices, which are being misused to destroy
- - . 

Perhaps we should be grateful that outter-earthly
beings have not long-since destroyed “humanity.”  Why
they haven´t is for me a valid question.

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By wikilrelais FR, December 13, 2010 at 8:02 am Link to this comment

TO THINK ABOUT !!!! and more only thinking
An Open Letter From Afghan Youth to Our World Leaders

“We are Afghans and We Ask the World to Listen” By AFGHAN YOUTH PEACE VOLUNTEERS

Dear Mr Obama, Mrs Clinton, Mr Petraeus, Mr Rasmussen, and all our world leaders,

We are Afghans and we ask the world to listen.
Like yourselves, we couldn’t live without the love of our family and friends.

We were hurt by your criticism of Mr Karzai for voicing the people’s anguished pleas, “Stop your night raids.”

Please, stop your night raids.

If you could listen, you would have heard 29 NGOs in Afghanistan describe how we now have “Nowhere to Turn”.

If you could listen, you would also have heard Mr Karzai and the 29 NGOs express concern over your Afghan Local Police plan; the world will henceforth watch our militia killing the people, your people and our people, with your weapons and your money.

If you could listen, you would have heard the sound of your drones crystallizing the nights of hatred among the Afghan, Pakistani and global masses.

Instead, we hear your determination to ‘awe, shock and firepower’ us with Abrams tanks. We hear distant excitement over your new smart XM25 toy, a weapon you proudly proclaim will leave us with ‘nowhere to hide’.

Nowhere to turn and nowhere to hide.(...)
we invite you to listen to the people of Afghanistan and to world public opinion on the Global Day of Listening to Afghans (internet-broadcast from Kabul December).

It is time to listen broadly and deeply to both local and overseas Afghan civil groups and the numerous alternative solutions they have proposed for building a better socio-political, economic and religious/ideological future for Afghanistan.

We have shared the pain of our American friends who lost loved ones on September 11, by speaking with and listening to them.

Though, if the world could listen like these American friends did, the world would know that few Afghans have even heard about September 11 and that no Afghans were among the 19 hijackers. The world would have heard our yearnings as we were punished over the past 9 years.

If the world could listen, they would know how much we detest the violence of the Taliban, our warlords, any warlord, or any bullet-digging finger-trophy troops.

for at least another four more years, we will grieve over souls who you are unwilling to ‘count’ and we are unwilling to lose.

It is extra painful to us and to your troops because clearly, there are on-violent and just alternatives.

We understand the pain of financial hardships but try telling an Afghan mother about to lose her child or a soldier about to take his life that the only way their illiterate and angry voices can ruffle the posh feathers of our world leaders is when it disturbs not their human or truth deficit, but their trillion dollar economic deficits. How do we explain that without denuding ourselves of human love and dignity?


How can we survive with hearts panicking in disappointment while perpetually fleeing and facing a ‘total’ global war, a war that wouldn’t be questioned even in the crude face of a thousand leaks?

We would survive in poverty, we may survive in hunger, but how can we survive without the hope that Man is capable of something better?

We sincerely wish you the best in your lives.

We are Afghans and we ask the world to listen.

????? ?????!

Salamat bAsheen!
Be at peace!


The Afghan Youth Peace Volunteers

Global Day of Listening to Afghans
19th December 2010

To share the pain of Afghans and people in conflict all over the world, please join us in Afghanistan by taking a few minutes on the 18th & 19th of December 2010 to Skype call us or call us directly, from wherever you are

Email .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

1. To arrange a call on the 18th & 19th of December 2010
OR
2. To support our Open letter from Afghan Youth to our World Leaders,

by emailing “YES, Why not listen?”

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By garth, December 12, 2010 at 9:25 pm Link to this comment

The latest tidbits released by WikLeaks are some kind of bad press for the Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, and Zelaya ousted President of Honduras has connections with the mob.

Ain’t that convenient.  The Turkish PM just had a run in with Israel, didn’t he?  And the South American countries of Bolivia, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, and Ecuador said the US has only beaten them in Honduras with its atttempted coups.

It’s ingenious, really.  For a while at least. They tell everyone that some rogue computer nerds led by Assange have these secret cables and they are going to show them to everybody. 

Not only that, but some Afghan names were left in.  Oh, my God!  Except, none of those Afghans had to be notified that their lives might be in danger and no attacks on them occurred.

Look at the type of cables we are getting.  They must have groups of hired screw balls pumping them out as we speak, making them up as they go along.

It is a great misinformation and disinformation scam.  It’ll work until it doesn’t, then who knows what else they have in mind.

I wonder who they think is believing this crap now?  It’s a great diversion in the NY Times for the quidnunc in all of us.  Who is it meant for?  Not us.

I guess the cartoons are getting the day-to-day following they used to get.

These the are cosmopolitan “intellemelectual’s” equivalent of a cartoon series.

Cancel my Sunday Times.

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By fearnotruth, December 12, 2010 at 6:11 pm Link to this comment

RE: ...never be a free man again…

hard to say - curiously, he’s so far avoided serious jail time for
a pretty serious hacking conviction - gives cause to wonder -
in this piece the Telegraph appears to be ‘playing’ its ‘role’,
and regardless the ‘spin’ seem to have the facts straight.

Julian Assange: is ‘Wikileaker’ on a crusade or an ego trip?

http://tinyurl.com/2f35goa - http://www.telegraph.co.uk

Mr. Assange was spared a jail sentence in 1995 after admitting 25 charges of
hacking into computer networks including the Canadian communications firm
Nortel.

Ken Day, who headed the Operation Weather investigation into Mr Assange’s
circle of hackers, told The Daily Telegraph: “Ego is a big part of who he is. The
challenge to win. I think that’s important to him as a person. He wouldn’t give
up on a system he was trying to break into, he was very persistent.”

Police in Australia first came across Mr Assange following an “audacious” attack
on Nasa’s computer in 1989 for which he was a suspect. The gang was so
cocky that it monitored the police investigating it, and even left messages for
detectives on their police computers.

Fining him 2,100 Australian dollars in December 1995, Judge Leslie Ross, at
Melbourne’s County Court, said he believed Mr Assange was driven by a desire
to be “empowered” by his access to high security files.

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By dcweiser, December 12, 2010 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment

I have no doubt that the US powers that be would like to do to Assange what they did to Robert Oppenheimer—break his personality and strip him of his soul; but I am not sure they will be able to. And I don’t believe that the government can afford to kill him. After all, he hasn’t done anything wrong. It’s Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld who belong on trial for treason and war crimes.

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By Blackspeare, December 12, 2010 at 2:46 pm Link to this comment

Assange made a fatal mistake by turning himself in to the British authorities——he should have gome to a neutral country.  He will never be a free man again because he will be extradited to the USA.

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By garth, December 12, 2010 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

“If that’s right, he’s bloody clever - ZB said on PBS last week that he thought it could be an intelligence op - in the video clip here, you’ll notice how quickly Hadley downplays the notion
http://tinyurl.com/23y7s2x”

The object of disinformation in just to inject doubt, or confusion at best. 

ZBig is a ‘big gun’.  They field him to say something that seems reasonable.  Their best ploy to calm the waters is with a little rational sounding argument on the TV News Gab.

ZBig comes out once in a while as a sort of Deus ex machina. 

In this instance, they have the counter-argument, Hadley, at the ready.

Gets you to stop thinking about what you know is real and starts you weighing their arguments.  By the time you look up, they’re gone. Story’s over.

The bomb going off in a car in Sweden smacks of government sponsored terrorism, US style.

One rule of thumb should be:  Don’t believe anything they say.  They not going to tell the truth.

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By drbhelthi, December 12, 2010 at 11:04 am Link to this comment

Gordon Duff covers the „israeli water-front“ with insinuations, clarifying that no other water-front is as active, and non other quite as putrid.  From my viewpoint, the Hong Kong (real) water-front is pristine, in comparison.  Duff did not explain that the “MOSSAD ” use one of the largest, fastest amerikanski mainframes to process telefon/cable traffic between the US & Europe.  IBM supported NAZI identification of Jewish folk in Germany, then Europe, 1935-1944, via census, and when discovered, hid inside its Swiss headquarters.  Years ago, a close acquaintance explained how their convoy of German (WWII-NAZI) trucks drove without lights, to a swiss installation one night in 1944, to pick up a load of swiss-manufactured bearings for aircraft engines.  The Swiss like to “help out” whenever possible - - -

Many well-informed journalists could have written similarly to Gordon Duff, if they weren’t so ntimidated by AIPAC.  The octopus arm of Zionism is imbedded not only in Bush-style NAZIism in the US, but also western-world journalism.  Most of us are aware that the official newsmedia of the “western world” is no longer a whirl-wind of truth, but has turned into one huge, odoriferous fart.  The tail has wagged the dog since 1948, and has no intention of loosening its grip. 

The ever-redundant Zionist plea: “Oh, woe is us, woe is us.  Six million of our “homefolk” were murdered by NAZI-Germans in WWII.  Why must we continuously warm-up your guilt feeling?  Why can´t you remember this terrible treatment you are responsible for?  Forget all the Allied soldiers who were killed, they are not our problem.  Help us, help us!  Increase our Bush-ism daily-dollar stipend, BUT, don’t criticize us.  If you do, we´ll cut your balls off via subtle activities.  Although, since our Federal Reserve and `your´ bankers, whom our instructors trained in dishonesty, have bled your economy dry, it will be difficult.  However, we are resourceful.  Meanwhile, to make us feel more secure, 230 nukes is not enough; how about another 200 to pacify us ?  Also, the modern, stealth Air Force you are “selling” us at a discount - - why is it not gratis?” 

William Casey at his first internal staff meeting in 1981:  “- -  we’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” (recorded by the great American patriot, Mrs. Mae Brussell, reported 29 yrs ago) 

Meanwhile, who is the next Moslem-type teenager that our super sleuth FBI has located, on whom to bestow a fake bomb?

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By Kath Cantarella, December 12, 2010 at 6:12 am Link to this comment
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I take back the ‘impressive judges’ compliment. I’ve just been reading some judgements by the so-called defenders of the 1st Amendment on the Supreme Court.
Weak, weak, weak on constitutional law. Embarassingly weak. I have more respect for the US Constitution and I’m not even a yank. But hey they are great at protecting the free speech of corporates and of people who insult dead marines at their funerals. NEWSFLASH YOU BRILLIANT JURISTS FROM A 1st yr law student: that wasn’t the most serious purpose behind the 1st Amendment. It was designed as a check on executive power and you have whittled away at it ‘til all it means is that insulting people and advertising garbage are inviolable civil rights.

Shame on you.

Bring back Hugo Black.

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By fearnotruth, December 12, 2010 at 5:26 am Link to this comment

RE: I think that the beady-eyed, Zbig, is behind this one.  First China, then
Russia.

If that’s right, he’s bloody clever - ZB said on PBS last week that he
thought it could be an intelligence op - in the
video clip here, you’ll notice how quickly Hadley downplays the notion
http://tinyurl.com/23y7s2x

Gordon Duff has little doubt whose Psyop it is -
http://tinyurl.com/23ofztf

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By Kath Cantarella, December 12, 2010 at 1:27 am Link to this comment
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The First Amendment of the US Constitution:

‘Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press’ - that is as explicit as a law can get! The purpose of the law is irrefutably IMO a check on Executive power.

Below is the Espionage Act which contravenes this Amendment:

US Code
§ 798. Disclosure of classified information

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States [BURDEN OF PROOF] or for the benefit [BURDEN OF PROOF] of any foreign government to the detriment [BURDEN OF PROOF] of the United States any classified information—

(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing [BURDEN OF PROOF] the same to have been obtained by such processes—Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(b) As used in subsection (a) of this section—The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, FOR REASONS OF NATIONAL SECURITY [BURDEN OF PROOF], specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The case authority i mentioned (an injunction case - but this fact is immaterial):

New York Times Co v US:
“In absence of governmental checks and balances”, per Stewart J, “the only effective restraint upon executive policy and power in [national defence and international affairs] may lie in an enlightened citizenry - in an informed and critical public opinion which alone can here protect the values of democratic government.”

Black J - the absolute superiority of the First Amendment which prohibits any interference with freedom of expression - the content and source of the documents are immaterial.

Douglas J - largely concurred with Black, arguing that the need for a free press as a check on government prevents any governmental restraint on the press.

Hence the Espionage Act is unconstitutional and invalid law. [Somebody should take this to the Supreme Court and get rid of that Act].

If the US authorities want to throw around accusations of breaches of an unconstitutional Act, they are going to lose the Act itself, and any leverage the existence of the Act gives them over US citizens. This is why I believe they won’t charge anyone under this Act - they would be stupid to, because they run a very big danger of seeing the Act ruled unconstitutional. Whereas as long as it exists, it is useful to them.

 


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By SteveL, December 12, 2010 at 12:27 am Link to this comment

Why is the U.S. still using cables for communication? There are plenty secure ways to communicate these days.  If the government is this outmoded and is putting things in writing that should not be there and then is exposed they need to do as V.P. Biden says and “buck up”.

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By Kath Cantarella, December 11, 2010 at 11:33 pm Link to this comment
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Ratio decidendi, obiter, and case authorities used in the Pentagon Papers case (an injunction case - this means it was brought prior to prohibit publication, and although it does not bar prosecution in a post-publication case, the same principles will apply. If an injunction would not have been successful prior to publication, a prosecution should not be successful after publication):

‘Any system of prior restraints of expression comes to this court bearing a heavy presumption against its Constitutional validity’ Bantam Books, Inc v Sullivan (1963); Near v Minnesota (1931).

The Government ‘thus carries a heavy burden of showing justification for the imposition of such a restraint’ OBA v Keefe (1971)

this court agreed with the three prior courts that that burden had not been met:

Black J (and Douglas J concurring):

‘every moment’s continuance of the injunctions against these newspapers amounts to a flagrant, indefensible and continuing violation of the First Amendment.’

Anyone claiming that this case is winnable based on the content of the leaked cables (i.e. that there is no info in them that justifies the leaks, and that the release of informants’ names was a criminal act) has the onus of proof backwards: to win this case the Government would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that releasing the information caused a serious breach of national security or an informant’s death. In principle this post-publication case would be even harder for the Government to win than the injunction case in 1971.

Anyone saying the Government has a case is doing the little ‘controlling the narrative’ trick I mentioned in a post below. It is not good law.

I invite any lawyers and law students the world over to an internet moot to protect the New York Times and Wikileaks from the parlour tricks of dodgy government-hack lawyers! Coming to a public internet forum of your choice, or right here in Truthdig’s comments.

It’s time to prove that not all lawyers are greedy con-artists.

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By I.M. Small, December 11, 2010 at 8:42 pm Link to this comment

EQUALS THE QUOTE AND UNQUOTE LOSS

The question is, do you prefer
To have dissension squelched
At cost of liberty? It were
As if the Founders belched,
And let the mongering of fear
Decide all policy:
They knew it well, but that is clear
(How ignorant are we).

The question now is WikiLeaks,
Tomorrow may be you—
Nobody likes a sneak who speaks
(Especially when it’s true);
But even an old Patriot did
Defend unto the death
Your right to say it: matters hid
Chicane concealeth.

Go read again Brooke Allen, please,
Glenn Greenwald has his share
Of argument; Frank Rich though he’s
A bit too much to bear:
Good Lord, I love these journalists
And would not have them die,
But censors are compiling lists,
Beware what they decry.

God Bless Assange and Ellsberg too
Who, even if they’re wrong,
Know what Civilian ethics do,
When single will is strong:
Amazon, Visa, Mastercard
May have you bought and sold,
Yet though the dying may come hard,
Not as a slave grow old.

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By photoshock, December 11, 2010 at 5:29 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Scheer, your insightful analysis of the situation
in regards to Mr. Julian Assange is spot on. When the
‘Main Stream Media’ becomes a tool of the
government’s propaganda machine, we are truly in deep
shit. No one knew that better than the late, great
Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. We are the
recipients of their foresight regarding a free and
unfettered press. But today, news and its opinions
have become the tool of the corporatocracy and its
minions the government.
We should once and for all, realize that ‘democracy’
is dead and buried. It no longer exists in the hearts
and minds of the ruling, elite class of the minions
of the corporatocracy. Instead of ‘we the people’ it
is now ‘we the sheeple,’ with no more rights than
those of slaves and servants of the masters.
Given this set of facts, is there any hope that, the
people will rise from the somnambulist slumber of the
dead? One can only hope that the people, the true
government of this nation wakes soon. If not, then
kiss this systems ass, for you and I will be required
to do just this in order to remain alive.
Our lives will be regulated to the point of inanity.
We will be required to have papers to travel
anywhere, even to the next state. We will be required
to attend the church of the government’s choice and
we are sure to see courts which determine what is and
is not an artist object or if that piece of sculpture
or painting or song or poem is terrorism.
Amerikka, wake up to the fact that you now live in a
fascist state, which determines the truth for its
people. We are no longer allowed to think critically
or with logic. This skill has not been taught in the
schools for the last generation. Neither will we be
allowed to determine our elected representatives.
Voting is going the way of the ‘dodo.’ We no longer
choose our elected members of Congress, let alone the
president. Please Amerikka, WAKE UP! We are asleep at
the wheel and the thieves and thugs of the elite
power structure have stolen your liberties and
freedom, to think, more so to live, free and
unfettered lives from government’s oppressive
tactics.

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By Kath Cantarella, December 11, 2010 at 4:57 pm Link to this comment
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Register your support for Pvt Manning:

http://www.bradleymanning.org/

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By drbhelthi, December 11, 2010 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

The former chief of science and technology (secret services) for the German government, Andreas von Bulow, has written several books about secret services.  His most recent edition of “The CIA and the 11th September,” fingers the role of the CIA. The information he provides, amplified by the testimony of John Stockwell, negate the idea that a U.S. Gov. intelligence organization is behind the WIKI releases.  Any such persons in the CIA or FBI that might try to “get real,” would be swiftly awarded the same fate as “Chip” Tatum; not that of PFC Bradley E. Manning.

The “watchword” for the CIA was revealed by the summary statement of William Casey at his first internal staff meeting in 1981.  “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” (recorded and reported by the great American patriot, Mrs. Mae Brussell)  Disinformation is anything other than the truth, for which NAZI types have great facility.  Don’t look up the history of the Bush family and NAZI support.  Don’t look up the IBM, Hollerith-card support for identifying Jewish folk via German census, 1935-1944, and the Swiss cover-up for IBM.  You might see a current-day parallel. . . .

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By garth, December 11, 2010 at 11:09 am Link to this comment

m_astera wrote:
“Are you people serious?  Assange is a tool of the intelligence agencies and wikileaks is a limited hangout releasing what the agencies want released, all precisely choreographed and timed.  So now Julian is in protective custody, and the engineered “leaks” get more publicity and fake legitimacy as the other players pretend outrage.  Spare me.”

And truedigger3 agreed.  I third that sentiment. 

I admit I was snookered.  It all sounded so believable, reminiscent of Daniel Ellsberg. Then came last week’s coverage of the releases on DemocracyNow! and Lo and behold, they featured an African from Nigeria, and he was quoted as saying that the Chinese are evil, and the Chinese are coming!
All over the dial commentators wrung their hands and with furrowed brows declared a state of national emergency. Cyber-war, assymetrical warfare, Defense threats, and on and on.

Then came the narrative of PFC Manning’s story, replete with the ‘Lady GaGa’ CD used to steal the information.  (Does someone actually listen to Lady GaGa?  I can see a soldier risking his life listening to it and saying, “That’s it.  If this is freedom, I’ll take one in the head.)

Next will come the crackdown.  I think first they’ll try to put a strangelhold on the Internet.  The chairman of the FCC, Julius Genachowski, backed away from his support of Net Neutrality.  It can be a new comedy team, Julian and Julius.

They all cry National Defense, National Defense.  We have to beat the Chinese by being just like the Chinese. 

Wait a minute, sounds like the logic Obama uses:  We have to beat the Republicans by being just like the Republicans.

I think Obama’s name is going to become a verb, as in, “The bill was Obamad.”  He waves his hands and says something in Globish and then pulls the rug out from under anyone who backed him. What’s another word for a person who does that?

But the big theme is China, China, China, as Jeffrey Immelt, chairman of GE once said. 

I think that the beady-eyed, Zbig, is behind this one.  First China, then Russia.

But before that, let’s throw the Internet providers a bone.

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By Kath Cantarella, December 11, 2010 at 1:34 am Link to this comment
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Reply to Gerard:

Thanks to your wonderful Constitution such a law would be illegitimate, and a truly independent US court would not recognize it.

It’s a pity you don’t seem to have a lot of elected law-makers who are worthy of that Constitution right now. Fortunately you still have a handful of very impressive judges.

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By John P., December 10, 2010 at 11:50 pm Link to this comment
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Julien Assange;

“... authoritarian regimes give rise to forces which oppose them by pushing against the individual and
collective will to freedom, truth and self realization.

Plans which assist authoritarian rule, once discovered, induce resistance. Hence these plans are
concealed by successful authoritarian powers. This is enough to define their behavior as
conspiratorial.”

The Wikileaks that are leaked to his online company only confirm that a corporate oligarchy has/is
taking place and has been for many many years in the American government.

Visa, Paypal, MC, and others have shown their hand - as in cutting off JA’s finances. And the collective
community, now knows, where they stand, which is; in opposition to transparency.

Anonymous and 4Chan? - They are retaliating with the tools that they have.
They are alone, they are our sub-conscious, and will do everything in their power except violence to
oppose censorship.

Facebook did not delete Assange’s account. Facebook was not attacked and Facebook believes JA has
a right, as a reporter, to publish.

Twitter did not delete Wikileaks. Twitter was not attacked.

Two women raped?, sorry, I don’t buy that, it’s propaganda and has fallen through.
So I ask myself why?
Why are we reading about a man,  that was a hacker once, and could make money working within the
computer field and stay - out of harms way.

This man has struck a chord in the world. The television media has lost the propaganda information
war trying to deface him because the masses.

Wikileaks receives documents from people that work for our U.S government.

Something must be disturbing those people. Disgruntled government employees?

Does Assange need the money?

If so, wouldn’t he just - take money - to keep the transcripts under wraps from our own government?

Did the U.S. offer him money? Did he refuse it?
Or

Is it because the U.S doesn’t have the money to pay him?
Or

Maybe it’s fame then?

A man like him needs to be famous right?

Look at the actors in Hollywood - Fame, money, cars, trips.

But then he could have his own reality show in his country, and skip the arrests or the possible
assassination attempts. No?

So why would he take a chance and release classified, secret, documentation?

Then there is something else, something deeper going on in Assange.
_______________________________________________________

If the leaks are true? And I believe they are then, some actions - unauthorized by the American
citizen, but paid for, by the American citizen have been taking place for years.

For years. And that, is a huge swindle to swallow. In fact - won’t be swallowed. It will be denied by
those who fail to read the writing on the wall. Those who would rather let the corporate media
interpret what really happened for them. 

But here’s the catch -

WE NOW HAVE THE WIKILEAK DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE THE GOVERNMENT’S ACTIONS.

Right?

So - they locked up Assange. And charged him, and will sentence him no doubt.

But - the government transcripts are out of the bag for all of us to see and use.

We have been lied to, this is a fact, the government transcripts prove it as fact.

And what we have seen, is not what we have voted for.

What happens now?

What will we do now that we have the PROOF, the proof that we have waited years to have.

I beg of you with tears - Truthdig readers, journalists, writers, everyman…

Don’t let Julien’s charge fade and be forgotten. Write Write and keep writing
speaking out for truth.

A critical examination through the years, of all Wikileak documentation is required.

Let’s take a close look at WHAT they have been doing without approval from us, the tax payers.

Keep these lies in their face.

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By gerard, December 10, 2010 at 6:42 pm Link to this comment

A couple things we should be paying attention to, in addition to the physical safety of Manning and Assange:
  l. That this particular ultra-conservative Congress, and the hysterical mood of the general public, will rush through a special law (worse that any already on the books) in order to charge and punish these two men—and any others that come within reach. Such a law will be even more restrictive than present laws, and we will end by being even less able to get information about what the U.S. is doing behind closed doors.
  2.  That the freedom of the internet will be severely restricted, a move toward which has been going on for some time with the FCC weakening in favor of more controls.
  P.S.—and have you noticed how everybody BUT Assange and Manning have had multiple chances to “have their say” about what is going on and why, the purposes, and what the results might be EXCEPT Manning and Assange.  They have not been able to speak for themselves anywhere I know about except early on, at a site called “ZunguZungu.com”—and there only partially.  What does that say about “freedom of speech” as is, about fairness and accuracy in reporting, and about justice?

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By truedigger3, December 10, 2010 at 4:54 pm Link to this comment

Thomas Jefferson was a great man and a free thinker. Don’t judge people who lived 200 years ago with the standards of today!

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By truedigger3, December 10, 2010 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

Re: By m_astera, December 8 at 9:37 pm,

m_astera wrote:
“Are you people serious?  Assange is a tool of the intelligence agencies and wikileaks is a limited hangout releasing what the agencies want released, all precisely choreographed and timed.  So now Julian is in protective custody, and the engineered “leaks” get more publicity and fake legitimacy as the other players pretend outrage.  Spare me.

Censoring the internet anyone?  Remember, never let a good crisis go to waste.”
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m_astera,

Exactly. I agree with you 100%.

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By truedigger3, December 10, 2010 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

Re: By eir, December 8 at 3:29 pm

eir wrote:
“All you need to know [?] about Julian Assange’s value as a crusading journalist is that The New York Times and most of the world’s other leading newspapers have led daily with important news.”

The very Times that carefully led us to war in Iraq?  “The intimate cooperation with The New York Times, with The Guardian of London, and with Der Spiegel of Germany…these are three arch establishmentarian, vaguely, very vaguely center left” mouthpieces that are pushing Assange and Wikileaks.  Why?  Do you trust these establishment mouthpieces?
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Like to look at things from more than one side?  I encourage you to think about what Wikileaks may and may not be.  Webster Tarpley: Media’s Wikileaks “CIA Style Spin” Gives Obama Excuse to Invade Iran & Pakistan!

Look at the curious relationship between George Soros, famed billionaire currency speculator, and backer and pusher of Obama, and his role as a backer of Assange. 

Are we being played, yet again, and for what purposes?  Never accept “all you need to know.”
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eir,

You hit the nail exactly on the head. I agree with you 100%.

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By MeHere, December 10, 2010 at 4:10 pm Link to this comment

I’d like to ask that you join me in making a donation to Truthdig. Whether you like
the site a lot or not that much, you must acknowledge that they are doing the
kind of reporting and commentary that most of the well-funded media is not
doing. This type of reporting is an endangered species. Let’s not allow it to
become extinct.

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By monthofsundays, December 10, 2010 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment

I am so angry with America and its bland-as-a-carrot president I could just spit! Lassange is one of the good guys and your turnip-for-a-leader can still not tell the difference between a hoop and a hole in the ground.

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By garth, December 10, 2010 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment

I feel this story is true judging from the immediate and widecast reaction of the reactionaries to Democrracy.  Bob Beckel of Fox Nooz, the US Senate, the US Congress, the State Department, the talk shows, etc. 

I wouldn’t doubt that the brain trusts, as it were, are now looking at ways to say things like Assange is one of our men.  He’s an asset working for the Holy Conglomerate. 

Let us see the rest of the cables, please.

It’s all so juicy.

I had a brief encounter with an American in the diplomatic corps in a dentist’s office last Summer.  That will be the only only one I ever have, I hope.

Payback’s a bitch.

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By mdgr, December 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment

Very liberal nod, Mr. Scheer. And I agree with your comparison, if not exactly with the scope of your follow-through.

Why are you not really dealing with the unfolding story?

Why relegate emerging news and events to the lower right hand corner of the website?

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/payback_time_for_mastercard_in_wikileaks_cyber-clash_20101208/#371259

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/payback_time_for_mastercard_in_wikileaks_cyber-clash_20101208/#371148

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By fearnotruth, December 10, 2010 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment

RE: By glider, December 10 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment
fear_no_lie,
take your f***ing meds now!

Tally ho! the ‘red pill’ - ‘blue pill’ yours - now calm down, go back to sleep and
when you wake up, please try to play nice

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By Leefeller, December 10, 2010 at 10:02 am Link to this comment

Discredit the man, discredit what he did, discredit him for what he did not do, whatever you do he must be discredited!

Thomas Jefferson was such a hypocrite, especially for not being a Christian!

Ah…yes! Give me the Yellow Bush of Texas any day!

Finstine is an example of a fine politician, who just happens to be wealthy and sleeps with the Military Complex and even has fine in her name!

Damn I love politicians, a fine example of what floats to the top!

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By jccampb, December 10, 2010 at 9:53 am Link to this comment

New wrinkle .. kids going to University near Dept. of State have received email (from their administration?) saying that if they go to wikileaks page? they may have a hard time if they planned to get a job at state or planned to get jobs requiring clearances.
In effect they’re trying to re-classify something that has entered into the public domain.  I don’t recall that this is even an available option under the rules of compartmentalized data.  And (ironically) people who would be concerned about the welfare of the country sufficiently to get jobs in that area of public service? Can’t read the stuff (Big Brother must be keeping a list of whose I.P. addresses are going there) but the “Great Unwashed” can. jccampb

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By FRTothus, December 10, 2010 at 9:43 am Link to this comment

Damnably Well Said! I salute your integrity, sir, and
I believe it bears repeating.


“By blueshift, December 10 at 2:25 pm Link to this
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Yeah…if only Adams was aware that the traitor in his
midst was the inestimable Thomas Jefferson. Not to
give too much credit to the insecure Mr. Adams, but
Jefferson’s carriage and treachery is despicable.

We should be careful about the deification of the
supposed gods of the American civil religion. They
were opportunists who saw the chance to shed the
British mechanism of inclusion in the gentry, and
seized that opportunity.

We worship Lincoln, too. He who suspended habeas
corpus, rendered the second amendment moot (those
were well-regulated militias that were doing the
fighting), and forced states back into the union who
were within their Constitutional rights to secede.

For the record: I am a liberal*. This is only to
produce the point that our history is messy, and the
hagiographies of our founders are largely myth and
fantasy.”

Heartily agree.
* I too am a liberal, if it means this kind of
objective clarity of thought and analysis.

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By blueshift, December 10, 2010 at 9:25 am Link to this comment

Yeah…if only Adams was aware that the traitor in his midst was the inestimable Thomas Jefferson. Not to give too much credit to the insecure Mr. Adams, but Jefferson’s carriage and treachery is despicable.

We should be careful about the deification of the supposed gods of the American civil religion. They were opportunists who saw the chance to shed the British mechanism of inclusion in the gentry, and seized that opportunity.

We worship Lincoln, too. He who suspended habeas corpus, rendered the second amendment moot (those were well-regulated militias that were doing the fighting), and forced states back into the union who were within their Constitutional rights to secede.

For the record: I am a liberal. This is only to produce the point that our history is messy, and the hagiographies of our founders are largely myth and fantasy.

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By blueshift, December 10, 2010 at 9:25 am Link to this comment

Yeah…if only Adams was aware that the traitor in his midst was the inestimable Thomas Jefferson. Not to give too much credit to the insecure Mr. Adams, but Jefferson’s carriage and treachery is despicable.

We should be careful about the deification of the supposed gods of the American civil religion. They were opportunists who saw the chance to shed the Bristish mechanism of inclusion in the gentry, and seized that opportunity.

We worship Lincoln, too. He who suspended habeas corpus, rendered the second amendment moot (those were well-regulated militias that were doing the fighting), and forced states back into the union who were within their Constitutional rights to secede.

For the record: I am a liberal. This is only to produce the point that our history is messy, and the hagiographies of our founders are largely myth and fantasy.

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Quoting Jefferson vacates any valid sense of principle you might make. He was a good writer, but a good human being? Not so much. And certainly not the kind of president we would want today…his pathologies include seditious, power-mad behavior during the presidencies of his two predecessors, and the well known hypocrisies surrounding the slaves he owned (despite their inalienable rights).

That Jefferson freed the journalists imprisoned by his predecessor, Adams, for daring to write negativity about him seems to have escaped you.As does the fact that, while in the Virginia Legislature, Jefferson tried to free his slaves only to be hit with an enormous surcharge imposed by that body for each freed slave, beyond his ability to pay as was the point, also absents itself from your assassination of Jefferson. Further, Jefferson did free his slaves in his will.

Jeffersons works trump any small minded and unasserted criticisms of his character, especially from the small minded.

Who you zoomin’ anyway?

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By glider, December 10, 2010 at 8:47 am Link to this comment

Just what does reality say about our situation when ones heroes are sitting in jail, and ones crooks are sitting on the seats of power?

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By glider, December 10, 2010 at 8:33 am Link to this comment

fear_no_lie,
take your f***ing meds now!


It sure feels good to see a commonality of purpose generated on this thread in supporting Julian Assange/Bradley Manning.  It does a world of good to the soul, whether we win or lose, to donate more to the WikiLeaks Angel than one pissed away on the Obama Fraud.

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By fearnotruth, December 10, 2010 at 6:11 am Link to this comment

RE: ...al-Qaida continues to find its base of support not in those countries but rather in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, the very nations we arm and protect.

not quite true…

Hidden Intelligence Operation Behind the Wikileaks Release of “Secret” Documents? The real story of Wikileaks has clearly not yet been told.

– 2010/08/12
POSTED IN: WORLD NEWS

http://tinyurl.com/2cc6oh2

... [about] the Afghan documents [...] the Obama White House has given the leaks credibility by claiming further leaks pose a threat to US national security. Yet details of the papers reveals little that is sensitive.  [...] most prominently mentioned, General (Retired) Hamid Gul, former head of the Pakistani military intelligence agency, ISI,  [...] man who during the 1980’s coordinated the CIA-financed Mujahideen guerilla war in Afghanistan against the Soviet regime there. In the latest Wikileaks documents, Gul is accused of regularly meeting Al Qaeda and Taliban leading people and orchestrating suicide attacks on NATO forces in Afghanistan.

The leaked documents also claim that Osama bin Laden, who was reported dead three years ago by the late Pakistan candidate Benazir Bhutto on BBC, was still alive, conveniently keeping the myth alove for the Obama Administration War on Terror at a point when most Americans had forgotten the original reason the Bush Administration allegedly invaded Afghanistan to pursue the Saudi Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks.

Demonizing Pakistan?

The naming of Gul today as a key liaison to the Afghan “Taliban” forms part of a larger pattern of US and British recent efforts to demonize the current Pakistan regime as a key part of the problems in Afghanistan. Such a demonization greatly boosts the position of recent US military ally, India. Furthermore, Pakistan is the only muslim country possessing atomic weapons. The Israeli Defense Forces and the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency reportedly would very much like to change that. A phoney campaign against the politically outspoken Gul via Wikileaks could be part of that geopolitical effort.

The London Financial Times says Gul’s name appears in about 10 of roughly 180 classified US files that allege Pakistan’s intelligence service supported Afghan militants fighting Nato forces. Gul told the newspaper the US has lost the war in Afghanistan, and that the leak of the documents would help the Obama administration deflect blame by suggesting that Pakistan was responsible. Gul told the paper, “I am a very favourite whipping boy of America. They can’t imagine the Afghans can win wars on their own. It would be an abiding shame that a 74-year-old general living a retired life manipulating the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan results in the defeat of America.”

Notable, in light of the latest Afghan Wikileaks documents, is the spotlight on the 74-year-old Gul. As I wrote in a previous piece,  Warum Afghanistan? Teil VI:Washingtons Kriegsstrategie in Zentralasien, published this June on this website, Gul has been outspoken about the role of the US military in smuggling Afghan heroin out of the country via the top-security Manas Air Base in Kyrgyzstan.

As well, in a UPI interview on September 26, 2001, two weeks after the 9-11 attacks, Gul stated, in reply to the question who did Black Sept. 11?, “Mossad and its accomplices. The US spends $40 billion a year on its 11 intelligence agencies. That’s $400 billion in 10 years. Yet the Bush Administration says it was taken by surprise. I don’t believe it. Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade Center CNN said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a planned piece of disinformation by the real perpetrators…” [1] Gul is clearly not well liked in Washington. He claims his request for travel visas to the UK and to the USA have repeatedly been denied. Making Gul into the arch enemy would suit some in Washington nicely.

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By Ebenezer, December 10, 2010 at 6:02 am Link to this comment
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Does the U.S constitusion apply to foreigners because I hear some people saying or mentioning freedom of speech and freedom or the press, for things to be done in the right way we should first respect what is law and not that disrespects like what the tea-partys and the rest has been doing. This will be just a matter of time when a Doctor will be forced to abandone the attorney client privilege or the Doctors and their patients, so will the jounalist to disclose their source of informaitons
My fear is how did he get the news, if he paid for it then we are must benefit of it

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By Leefeller, December 10, 2010 at 4:34 am Link to this comment

Great article and posts,  Such enlightenment brings a tear to me eye! Hope the change may yet happen!

In Texas they are attempting to ban the existence of Thomas Jefferson, sort of like they already banned reality!

Accountability must be stopped or the house of cards may catch a breeze!

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By Kath Cantarella, December 10, 2010 at 3:39 am Link to this comment
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This is the Espionage Act they claim JA has breached:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000798——000-.html

But the US has no jurisdiction over Wikileaks unless (and only maybe) they can prove he hacked their system to obtain the info. He didn’t, it was apparently sent to him. The Espionage Act is also outside the extradition treaty with Sweden.

Here is the case authority which applies a legal test that in my interpretation could see people like Palin and Huckabee who have called for the assassination of Assange (which is a clear and imminent danger - it’s a miracle he’s still breathing) convicted of inciting violence:

Brandenburg v Ohio (1969)

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By Kath Cantarella, December 10, 2010 at 2:31 am Link to this comment
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This is the case authority (applying the First Amendment of the US Constitution) that protects Julian under US law:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=403&invol=713

    (its the Pentagon papers case)
 
If there is wrongdoing revealed in the leaked documents (and there is) there is also case law to protect Private Manning from prosecution as a government employee (to whom 1st amendment protections do not apply), as the unlawfulness of the act depends on malicious intent, not an honest desire to reveal wrongdoing.
Any legal opinions I express here should be double-checked but as far as I can see they have no case against either of these men.

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By Kath Cantarella, December 10, 2010 at 1:10 am Link to this comment
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Regarding journos, Wikileaks, and the law in the US:

I found a blawg about Wikileaks and criminality in the US by the kind of lawyer any law student with a soul does not want to be (link at bottom). All this guy does is talk about twisting the original intent of legislation in order to serve the interests of power. I LOLed at the reference to First Amendment concerns. He apparently has no compunction at eternally stuffing up the US Constitution for no moral reason except ‘we have a right to be naughty without being exposed for it’.

I also found the references to Assange’s ‘criminal intent’ laughable. With its own criminal actions the US government has compromised its own security, its economy, its military personnel, and its world standing: Assange or any other crusading journo has nothing to do with that. Assange’s obvious intent is to save people/the nation from the illegal operations of corrupt power not destroy them. He made an error with the local names in the Afghan logs but he did what he could to fix that. There you have legitimate proof of his utter lack of ‘criminal intent’.

Under freedom of information laws, and under the letter and spirit of the Constitution, the US people have a right to this information, unless the government can prove to a judge in a closed court that it will seriously compromise national security. Being caught playing fast and loose with classification powers is not a crime attributable to the person who caught you. And unconstitutional legislation is simply not legal. Any honest US constitutional lawyers out there should consider taking some of Bush’s counterproductive anti-terrorism laws to the highest court in the land and getting rid of them before they, and any further Constitutional breaches they engender, destroy your legal system and your ‘free’ nation completely.

I also laughed at the link under the blawg entitled: ‘Controlling the narrative: the myth of the unwinnable case’. Doesn’t that just say it all? I have no respect for people who treat the law, and the spirit of the law, like this. It’s a sacred trust, not a vanity or commercial exercise.

http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202475705075

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By dcampbell, December 9, 2010 at 11:48 pm Link to this comment

Well put. Assange is clearly a journalist.  His work is used by many of the main
stream journalists. As a journalist, he and the entire Wiki leaks team deserve the
protections of journalists and the first amendment.
The government can not be allowed to decide who is a journalist and who is
terrorists.  recommended reading.  We are All Journalists Now, by Scott Gant.
This is a vital issue.

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By carlos Lluch, December 9, 2010 at 9:13 pm Link to this comment
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Yes Robert Sheer, you are right, thanks a lot for expressing it so well

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By blueshift, December 9, 2010 at 9:11 pm Link to this comment

Quoting Jefferson vacates any valid sense of principle you might make. He was a good writer, but a good human being? Not so much. And certainly not the kind of president we would want today…his pathologies include seditious, power-mad behavior during the presidencies of his two predecessors, and the well known hypocrisies surrounding the slaves he owned (despite their inalienable rights).

On a calmer note, I am discerning, perhaps, a split between the social agenda of true liberalism from the bomb throwing anarchists who filled the ranks in the 60’s and 70’s. This may not be a bad thing, and it likely portends the same un-pairing that should occur with the tparty reublikanzis from the true conservatives, though for heaven’s sake, I hope that happens more quickly or we are all in trouble.

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By politicky, December 9, 2010 at 8:33 pm Link to this comment

Thank you Mr. Scheer!

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By sallysense, December 9, 2010 at 8:22 pm Link to this comment

(for wikileaks and the u.s.a.!)...

in a land where a country’s high leaders lay claim…
united states people stand feeling close pain…
their ears hear those big shots come up with excuses…
but a quick look around soon reveals where the truth is!...

from vacant lot store fronts to more soldiers’ graves…
home planted sale signs hide mailbox names!...
college loan paybacks tack federal debt…
while industrial workers learn of layoffs they’ll get!...

from stress-filled environments to lone chilly rooms…
paycheck to paycheck can’t face future doom!...
already our seniors and jobless and ill…
view less options left with so few dollar bills!...

this is our country folks!... see for yourselves!...
the majority are us and most everyone else!...
struggling with hardships under all those in charge!...
as governmental misbehavior runs rampant at large!...

why is it our leaders dislike these truths shown?...
is it not we the people who deserve rights to know?!...
when did government’s first duty become serving the government?!...
and not justly the people for whom they were sent!...

how can leaders say ‘patriot’ means being patriotic to them?...
when they won’t play by the rules a constitution defends!...
instead it is them who lack the patriotism…
to stop their own underhand tactics which bring further bad things!...

and how can leaders use terrorism as an overall reason?...
to keep their own bully methods hidden somewhere in secret?!...
they intimidate unfairly to sway public opinion…
and steer clear of truth needed to fix dilemmas we’re in!...

this is our country folks!... see for yourselves!...
the majority are us and most everyone else!...
struggling with hardships under all those in charge!...
as governmental misbehavior runs rampant at large!...

how can government’s deception be the best way to rule?...
when that curve of its wrist bends most fair and square tools!...
hence without accountability it’ll feed a free-for-all!...
as our country’s representatives wheel and deal above the law!...

it’s no surprise that the government abhors wikileaks!...
truth might hinder the officials soon from doing as they please!...
and make it more difficult to reassure u.s. citizens…
not to fret government’s business and leave it all up to them!...

but we must tend to our nation and future well-being!...
to end unjust procedures and the policies we’re seeing!...
they insist we believe in things proven untrue!...
now we need these disclosures to help build anew!...       

this is our country folks!... see for yourselves!...
the majority are us and most everyone else!...
struggling with hardships under all those in charge!...
as governmental misbehavior runs rampant at large!...

support wikileaks!... http://wikileaks.ch

the best of wishes’n'ways’n'todays to bring fair’n'square and care!... smile

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By JDmysticDJ, December 9, 2010 at 7:29 pm Link to this comment

By philosopher66, December 8 at 1:26 pm Link to this comment

It’s one of those statistical realities that is counter intuitive. Civilization is actually the safest way to travel.

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By omygodnotagain, December 9, 2010 at 7:18 pm Link to this comment

The crux here is bogus notions about security. We never had the security apparatus we have today during the Cold War when thousands of missiles were pointed at us. Who are the enemy a bunch of extremists who live in 12th Century..duh!!! This is about not telling Americans what the government is doing in Yemen, in Afghanistan and many other places. This is about an agenda the government doesn’t want the people to know about.
This is sinister

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By omygodnotagain, December 9, 2010 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment

The crx here is bogus notions about security. We never had the security apparatus during the Cold War when thousands of missiles were pointed at us. Who are the enemy a bunch of extremists who live in 12th Century..duh!!! This is about not telling Americans what the government is doing in Yemen, in Afghanistan and many other places. This is about an agenda the government doesn’t want the people to know about.

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By Dr. O. P. Sudrania, December 9, 2010 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment

I hold full respect for Julian Assange and feel that he deserve reward for his couragious and free reporting even risking his life at/through state sponsored terrorism by US. Just because it went against the interests of some political leaders, Julian is being made a escapegoat. A poor and weak democracy. I shall feel sad if he is harmed.
God bless
Dr. O. P. Sudrania

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By dcweiser, December 9, 2010 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

God Bless Julian Assange for his courage and his intestinal fortitude in showing up these bastards for the treasonous, murderous, scofflaws they are. If anyone should be prosecuted, it is that fraud George W. Bush and his Sith master, Richard P. Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. I hope to live to see them prosecuted in an international court for crimes against humanity, war crimes and treason against the United States of America.

The biggest player of all, Glen Beck,
But he ain’t playin’ with a full deck!

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By garth, December 9, 2010 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment

Fareed Zakaria rejoiced a lttle too early in his edition of GPS lat Sunday.

He said that the US Diplomatic corps was not acting outside the realm of the US’s foreign policy.  Some reputable news shows are now showing excerpts for the WikiLeaks.

Does Zakaria want us to beilieve that US foreign policy is about whether or not to bomb Iran, how to portray Karzai in the American press, and how to keep for appearing sophomoric in their heretofore undisclosed diplomatic cables.

Well, Amy Goodman and DemocracyNow! blew Zakaria’s claim right out of the water with its coverage of the WikiLeak releases about Nigeria.

How much information does one need?

If this has not been enough?  Let’s have some more.

I used to say, “Run, Julian. Run.”  Now I say, “Run in place, Julian, Run in place.”  Just don’t eat the food and don’t drink the water.

Keep your DNA to yourself.

You are now on the surface of the outer-most bubble of this madness.

Billions upon billions of the peace-wanting citizens of world are are with you.

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By jccampb, December 9, 2010 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment

The quote from the principle author of our Constitution is quite applicable but doesn’t tell all the story.  Mandatory reading of the 7 vol. of “Jefferson the Virginian” should be a given in schools. Jefferson said that if the population of the U.S. got larger than Britain at that time? The government would have to be recreated AS A PARLIMENTARY DEMOCRACY.  Unfortunately we are unwilling to admit the system ITSELF is “broken”. Too many vested interests in keeping it as it is and limping along to collapse not with a roar but a whimper. 
However what the author has missed is that that chief value of Assange’s “revelations”? is that he simply PRESENTS THE FACTS AND EXPECTS THE READER TO USE THEIR OWN BRAINS. The information TELLS THE STORY ITSELF it doesn’t NEED coloration by some hack dramatist news puke.  ALL (I said ALL)  the Fourth Estate has become a Reality show for the “Great Unwashed” who don’t want to think for themselves and wish to believe that there is a simple answer for everything and no knowledge is required (or wisdom for that matter)And they don’t all live in the redneck breadbasket of the country I’m sorry to say.
jccampb

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By Paolo, December 9, 2010 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment

Kudos to Robert Scheer from a libertarian—well done!

The Swedish “rape” charges against Assange have all the stench of a CIA-staged “honey-trap.” But Neoconservatives especially like to dredge up people’s sex lives as leverage against the truths they tell.

Of course, this is all meant as mis-direction; what on earth do Assange’s sexual encounters have to do with the facts Wikileaks reveals?

Another Neoconservative misdirection is the whole idiotic claim that the release of documents “endangers American lives.” All releases were carefully redacted specifically to PREVENT any such endangerment. Wikileaks actually asked the Pentagon for HELP in redacting the documents, but the Pentagon REFUSED—so Wikileaks worked with the media outlets in going over the documents and redacting any information that might reveal any actual agents.

I agree wholeheartedly with the Jefferson quotation: I would rather see a free press without a government, than a government without a free press.

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By bogi666, December 9, 2010 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment
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patriot10101, the system you describe is the Beast of Revelations. The Beast is the one world system, globalized predatory capitalism, the one world system of the Bible. The pretend christians are the biblical harlots and their churches, Towers of Babel. Good analysis, especially the education system corruption which teaches in the business and law schools the too big to fail doctrine which is in place and is protected by the Pentagon/spy agencies.

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By GoyToy, December 9, 2010 at 11:37 am Link to this comment

Would it be wrong to suggest that Feinstein’s support for the ME wars is due more for her concern for Israel than the US?

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By surfnow, December 9, 2010 at 9:06 am Link to this comment

All fascist regimes operate in the same insidious fashion. If you want to see how the Julian Assange arrest and “show trial” happened in the past rent the drama ” Sophie Schall.”  In 1943 Germany she and her brave college friends had the temerity to publish underground news about the army, the atrocities and the truth about the Eastern Front. She was arrested and there was a ” trial.”  The charges were
” endangering the lives of the troops” and ” compromising the safety of the homeland.”  Sound familiar?

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By drbhelthi, December 9, 2010 at 9:01 am Link to this comment

Two American Patriots of the jewish faith, Mrs. Mae
Brussell, and Mr. Scherman Skolnick.  Both had the
foresight and courage to broadcast, even print
similar insider information, twenty-five years ago.
Among hundreds of releases, Brussell publicized the
summary statement of the GHWBSr- appointed “stool
pigeon” of the CIA, “We’ll know our disinformation
program is complete when everything the American
public believes is false.” (William Casey, CIA
Director. from first staff meeting, 1981) 

Both Mae Brussell & Sherman Skolnick were denigraded
and misrepresented by news media and occasionally
mistreated by “authorities.”. Neither received the
treatment of Daniel Ellsberg,  Certainly, none of the
three have been treated as Mr. Assange is being
treated. Mr. Assange is charged with treason, when he
isn’t an American.  Nor does he have direct access to
the revealed information, which the genuine
treasonists have secreted from Americans and western
government “colleagues.” 

Such activity by USGov representatives further
verifies that the Patriot Act & spin-offs,
implemented by GHWBushSr & offspring, is step three
of the NAZIfication of the USA.

Ignore Brussell. Ignore Skolnik. Ignore Ellsberg.
Ignore Sibel Edmunds.
Do not ignore Assange.  Demand his freedom, and
contribute to WIKI.  If you can find a secure
contribution channel.

Hurrah for the patriots among the CIA, FBI, NSA,
Secret Service and generally the US Gov.  Taking an
oath to support the U.S. President,
instead of the U.S. Constitution,
is in itself, an act of treason.

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By wikilrelais FR, December 9, 2010 at 5:23 am Link to this comment

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By James Anderson Merritt, December 9, 2010 at 4:43 am Link to this comment
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Some of us advised before the 2010 elections that the only sure way of making an electoral difference—not to mention get the attention of our “ruling class” of arrogant politicians—was to refuse to vote for either republicans or democrats, as well as to fire incumbents. Look to the ranks of independents and third-party candidates. The Tea Party organizations made some big mistakes, in endorsing GOP candidates, when they could have put their money and influence behind true independents, or helped third-party candidates become “viable.” All in all, the 2010 election, which was supposed to bring us a voter revolt that would send a wave of “outsiders” to Washington and the state capitals, failed to deliver true change. I wonder how many more chances are left for us to use ballots in effecting a peaceful transfer of power, before some hot-heads start using bullets instead, because things aren’t moving quickly enough to suit them. It is time for us to use our system to fix our system. So the next time you get a chance to vote, don’t blow it.

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By ajarn bob, December 9, 2010 at 4:20 am Link to this comment
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Julian Assange looks to me like the Gandhi of our
times, while the American dictatorship looks like the
Germany of the 1930’s.

Do Something!    Join with tens of millions of
others from around the world.
Support freedom of the press!  Support an open
Internet!
Support Wikileaks! Support Julian Assange!

http://savewikileaks.net/another-wikileaks-address/

http://antiwar.com/

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By Not One More!, December 9, 2010 at 4:07 am Link to this comment

What is it called when the public statements of a government official doesn’t match the reality of their actions and goals as evidenced by the recent Wikileaks documents?

Propaganda

That is what all our top elected and appointed officials utter on our airwaves through TV interviews, newspaper interviews, and policy statements - PROPAGANDA.

Which are just lies to hide the truth of their actions and further their not so hidden agenda.

On a skeptical note, because it is being published by the New York Times,  should one be a little suspect of why they are running the stories? In the past the Times ‘reporting’ has just been more just plain stenography, just repeating verbatim, unchallenged of course, all the lies and half truths issued by government officials.

You can’t have a corrupted government unless you have a corrupted press. We have both.

http://www.NotOneMore.US

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By Kath Cantarella, December 9, 2010 at 3:12 am Link to this comment
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Executive power is not stronger than either the people or a truly independent court of justice.

Join the Aussie campaign to help Julian:

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/Wikileaks&id=1489

and/or the Avaaz petition:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/wikileaks_petition/?vl

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By emailrevealer, December 9, 2010 at 1:08 am Link to this comment
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I suspect this whole wikileaks situation will be used to take away all of our freedoms on the Internet. If you look at how it’s being played out.
First hype about cyberbullies, then wikileaks, then hackers attack credit card companies.
It’s all too convenient.

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By glider, December 9, 2010 at 12:56 am Link to this comment

Firefly’s post of Hilliary’s January 2010 speech of hypocrisy (internet free speech) juxtaposed to her recent Wikileaks speeches clearly shows that the empire does not have any principles.  Rather it selectively applies principals when it suits its agenda. That is a tool of manipulation, not a principal!  The emptiness and complete corruption of the speeches of the foremost “leaders” of the Democrat Party is without a shred of doubt obvious for all to see.

Julian Assange/Manning is laying bare the corruption and effective loss of Democracy in America.  There is barely a lick of difference between the two parties.  The last two years of “Bipartisanship” is in reality a new form of Totalitarianism.  It is a rationalization for doing X when the people voted for Y.  That “X” is more and more aligned with Corporate/Elite Agenda, and contrary to Electorate Public Opinion. There is no effective recourse in a two party system so a Totalitarian “Democracy” becomes established.  In the case of Wikileaks we are apparently left with a choice of either using diplomatic manipulation or assassination to destroy this organization.  Memories of Obama speeches of “transparency” and a new era of in government are laid bare as a preposterous lie.

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By bumrush, December 9, 2010 at 12:41 am Link to this comment
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Excellent article!

Berkeley is considering declaring Bradley Manning a hero:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/berkeley-resolution/

... and boycott M/C, paypal, amazon, or other companies that refuse to do business with WL citing criminal activity.

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By Bill Andrews, December 8, 2010 at 11:36 pm Link to this comment
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It is a truly sad state of undemocratic reactionary politics that characterizes the de-evolution of America today.  Leaders have lied to the people, entered into unjustified wars, caused the deaths of thousands of innocent people, alienated world opinion and brought the country to the brink of destruction and all they can think about is to “kill the messenger”. Thank you to Julian Assange and Wikileaks, the true voice of the “free press” today.

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