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Posted on Feb 10, 2010
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Then-U.S. Rep. (and, at the time, presidential hopeful) Tom Tancredo speaks during the CNN/YouTube debate in St. Petersburg, Fla., in 2007.

By Marcia Alesan Dawkins

Last Thursday night former Congressman and 2008 Republican presidential candidate Tom Tancredo made opening-night remarks at the inaugural National Tea Party Convention in Nashville. Tancredo fired verbal shots at Barack Obama, Sen. John McCain and “the cult of multiculturalism,” stating that people who “could not spell the word vote or say it in English” had elected the president. And that Obama’s election reveals the need for us to “have a civics [or] literacy test before people can vote in this country.”

Tancredo is wrong. United States political history reveals our long-standing tradition in this area. In “Before the Mayflower,” Lerone Bennett Jr. recounts how literacy tests were first employed at the federal level as part of the immigration process in 1917. Southern state legislatures adopted literacy tests once African-Americans were granted citizenship rights under the 15th Amendment, as part of the voter registration process. As practiced, the literacy test became notorious for denying suffrage to African-Americans. Adopted by a number of Southern states, the tests were applied in a patently unfair manner and were used, along with the poll tax, to disfranchise many literate Southern blacks while allowing many illiterate Southern whites to vote.

The literacy test—combined with other discriminatory practices that kept African-Americans from attending schools, from particular modes of transportation, from attaining mortgages and from careers in public service—effectively disfranchised the vast majority of people of color in the South from the 1890s until after the middle of the 20th century. Southern states abandoned the literacy test only when forced to by federal legislation in the 1960s. This legalized discrimination caused suffering and turmoil for all parties involved, especially during the slavery period and the Jim and Jane Crow segregation era. Tancredo’s call for the return of literacy and civics tests suggests that those (black and brown) who voted for Obama are incapable of making informed political decisions and are influenced primarily by identity politics. Moreover, it denies the fact that the majority of voters who elected Obama were white.

Then there’s the issue of affirmative action. Like many other reactionary politicians, Tancredo has fallen victim to the misperception that affirmative action policies have done away with institutional racism and moved society beyond equal access to opportunity and into an era of “reverse racism” and discrimination. This has resulted in anti-affirmative action legislation such as California’s Proposition 209, Washington’s Initiative 200 and Ward Connerly’s various racial privacy initiatives.

During the presidential campaign, Obama responded to this issue in his “A More Perfect Union” speech when he stated: “… we’ve heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it’s based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap.” This misperception that Obama is an unqualified leader who benefited unreasonably from such legislation allows many to assert that a heightened focus on diversity is tantamount to a case of the emperor’s new clothes. Also wrong. Statistics on affirmative action show that white women, such as Tea Party Convention keynote speaker Sarah Palin, have been its greatest beneficiaries, while unemployment rates for African-Americans and Latinos, 15.7 percent and 13.1 percent respectively, rival those experienced by these groups during the Great Depression.

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Finally, there’s the issue of fear. 2010 Census projections indicate that by the year 2050 white people will be a minority in the United States. A lot of this has to do with immigration, which might have provided the impetus for Tancredo’s cry: “This is our country. Let’s take it back.” Fear that America is becoming overrun and unsafe because of people of color undoubtedly stems in part from media-generated images, but a fear of the other also is a big factor.

U.S. immigration history notwithstanding, there’s more for him to fear than immigration. Even without any immigration, minorities would still constitute a majority of the population under the age of 5 by 2050. According to The New York Times, this is because of higher birth rates among Hispanic people already living in the U.S. “If immigration continues, black, Hispanic and Asian children will become a majority of young children sometime between 2019 and 2023, according to the latest projections.” Moreover, interracial marriages between Asian women and white men are on the rise. What does this mean? Should minority status be extended to white Americans when this shift occurs? Should white people be preparing now? Tancredo obviously says yes, and that white minority status needs protecting against “the cult of multiculturalism.”

Beneath this fiery rhetoric, Tancredo is calling for tea partiers to retain the twin social privileges of being in the company of people like themselves while avoiding spending time with people they’ve been trained to mistrust. These social privileges are, of course, only corollaries to the tea party’s more blatant call to retain economic interests that, according to UCLA law professor Cheryl I. Harris, the law has established and protected through its construction of white identity. In her article “Whiteness as Property,” Harris explains that the legal construction of whiteness defined and affirmed who is white, what benefits and privileges whites enjoy and what entitlements to property arise from their status. Harris’ work reminds us that we must pay attention to claims like Tancredo’s because they show how whiteness can be used strategically as identity, status and property depending on situation and goal. Here’s a quick translation of Tancredo’s message: Privilege needs protecting.

Whether one is infuriated or inspired by Tancredo’s race-baiting, it’s important to recognize that there is much at stake for those who wish to maintain the status quo and much at stake for those who are trying to change it. One thing’s sure: Tancredo was right when he said that “the race for America is on right now.”


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By Night-Gaunt, February 15, 2010 at 12:12 pm Link to this comment

If they stop listening to the propaganda and actually see what Obama is doing they see he is just like them, corporate, capitalist and Christian. The Three C’s, four if you add Conservative. For he is no Liberal and definitely not a Progressive. But it is his actions not his speeches that tell the true tale. Most Liberals and Progressives know that. Both Clinton & Carter were the same way.

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By johannes, February 15, 2010 at 2:41 am Link to this comment

To Gerard,

I am been born white, and probable I will die White.

The Indo-Europeên race has done most for humankind, but every medaille has two sites.

With Humans is coming, every sentiment whats coming and is inherent in nature, irrespective of race

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By Atilla, February 14, 2010 at 5:58 pm Link to this comment

“For this reason, we must be quick to label as ‘racist’ any whites who try to represent whites as a group in order to preserve the economic success, cultural traditions, or the political power of their own kind. BUT we must also praise efforts by others groups to do the same things, because this is ‘progress’ and promotion of ‘diversity’ when done by non-whites, NOT ethnic self-interest or racism. I’m sure I don’t need to remind you that racism is only a white phenomenon.”

Frank, I know your dissertation was meant to be tongue in cheek, but you pretty well expressed the feelings of a majority of the white race. Believe it or not, there is a double standard for whites as opposed to other races. Can’t let the truth get in the way of our hypocrisy can we?

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By Atilla, February 14, 2010 at 5:46 pm Link to this comment

“Can’t the liberal media find liberals who are doing
anything? Anything?”

In case you did not notice, FiftyGigs, NOBODY watches liberal TV, and even fewer people listen to liberal radio as demonstrated by the Air America debacle. The liberal message falls, for the most part, on deaf ears. The overwhelming majority of this country are not liberals and do not believe in the liberal agenda.

As for multiculturalism, people are turned off by it. I don’t need anyone to point out to me the differences in people. I know the differences in people, I can see them. I do not “celebrate” multiculturalism. All that does is play one person against another. Liberals might have a better chance at moving some of their agenda if they would understand that we are all humans and stop pointing out the differences in folks.

As for AA it is way past time for it to end. At some point SCOTUS will rule that it is unconstitutional and we can bid it adieu.

And by the way..that worn out rant about Republicans hating B O because he is black is bs. I am as conservative as they come, and given B O’s charm, intelligence, and eloquence I, and most conservatives I know, would vote for him in a heartbeat; IF his politics were conservative.

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By Jean Gerard, February 14, 2010 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment
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It would appear from this string that there are an awful lot of fearful white
people around this site.  Personally, in view of “white European” history, I can’t
join in the attempts to uphold it.  For centuries “white people” have tended to
regard themselves as superior, and they have a history of wars and
exploitations to prove it—if superiority means marauding, conquering,
killing, passing diseases, justifying injustices, denying minority rights,
imprisoning,—the whole shameful schmeer. Not that such nasty behavior is
unique to whites, because it isn’t.  But whites have developed and perfected the
methods of oppression for years. They have even crossed oceans, gone out of
their way, to invade and dominate.  “Deutschland uber alles” was only one
relatively recent example of their exploits, but it shows how far they will go to
try to prove their point.

Personally, I want no part of it.  I want a world where everyone can find a way to
live peacefully, with adequate resources and opportunities, caring for each
other as members of the human family.  To do that, we have to work together
for our mutual benefit.  It’s not impossible, but whipping up racial animosity is
a step back to darkness and destruction, ignorance and pain.

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By FiftyGigs, February 14, 2010 at 7:58 am Link to this comment

First of all, this article was brilliant. Casting the
Tea Party against all other timeless, global
struggles for rights, really pins it to the mat.
Moreover, the author thankfully discovered the truth
behind it all—it’s all about ratings.

(Is there anyone still around who honestly doesn’t
think that Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh ARE the
mainstream media???)

So, why in God’s name are all the liberal outlets
flooded with news about conservatives?

Despite the proliferation of liberal channels, all
I’m reading or hearing is (a) look at what Sarah and
Rush and Mitch and Rupport and Roger and Glenn and
(your name here) did, or (b) how miserable it is that
Democrats continue to insist on playing by the rules.

I would much rather read about Al Franken taking a
dump. Seriously. And I’ll bet money he did. I’ll pay
money to find out. Where’s the coverage?

Can’t the liberal media find liberals who are doing
anything? Anything? Making a motion? Walking into a
room somewhere? Really, taking a dump.

Does it have to be only the distant fade-out of the
conservative echo chamber? A lil ratings bump for
them?

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By Test Test, February 13, 2010 at 10:15 pm Link to this comment
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Nothing is more “divide and conquer” than affirmative action.  It’s a tax on white people that blacks, Hispanics and American Indians benefit from.  But it’s not a tax on ALL white people.  The rich don’t work, so Affirmative Action doesn’t affect them.  The poor don’t have good jobs; Affirmative Action doesn’t affect them either.  It pretty much only taxes middle class whites—and benefits upper middle class blacks and Hispanics.  Rather than taxing all whites, it taxes only young, smart, and currently working males—and expects this small group to pay repeatedly, throughout their lives.
Whites don’t seem to feel very privileged these days.  It costs much more to send a white kid to college than a black or Hispanic kid.  Whites, predictably, have responded by having much fewer kids.
If whites are so privileged, how come they are the only ethnic group in America with a declining population?  Usually people respond to a bright future by having more, not fewer, kids.  Current trends would suggest that in the past whites were privileged—and that old whites still have some money.  However, today, it is minorities that have the best prospects and the brightest futures.  The black and Hispanic populations are growing much faster than the white population—and this growth is a direct result from expecting white people to give up more in the name of Affirmative Action.
Carry out this trend another hundred years, and there will be no white people in America at all.

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By Ron, February 13, 2010 at 6:53 pm Link to this comment
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There are a number of false assumptions circulating on the subject of immigration: everyone who is against immigration is a racist, xenophobe or bigot; fear of immigrants is unreasonable; unrestrained population growth is not important; established culture is not worth keeping; all men are created equal before the law and are genetically equal as well—-genetics applies to cattle and horses, but not to human beings; there is no such thing as a heritable racial characteristic; there is no such thing as race; all cultures are equally beneficial to all people; immigration is not driven by the desire for cheap labor on the part of business interests; immigrants take no American jobs, because Americans won’t do those jobs; immigrants come here because they admire America, its Bill of Rights and constitutional freedoms; our children and grandchildren will be served by the wonders of diversity and will not resent the loss of their own cutural values and heritage; our forefathers fought and died for this country because they wanted to pass down their cuture, language, race and identity to foreign people, and diversity for the sake of difference leads to social harmony and mutual trust.

We are free to believe anything we wish, but we are obligated to educate ourselves. Importing the unskilled, uneducated, and poverty-stricken millions into a quasi-welfare state with high unemployment makes no more sense economically than it does socially.

Every now and then governments seem to go insane, and those who dare to disagree can never escape accusations of being unAmerican, unpatriotic, or simply irrational by the very governments which are themselves deserving of those labels.

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By gerard, February 13, 2010 at 10:56 am Link to this comment

What I mean to say is that racism and discrimination are inevitable where populations are immigrating in large numbers.  The reasons for large immigration are mainly economic.  People are not immigrating in large numbers from rich countries to poor countries, are they? The reach of information/transportation being worldwide, who could expect anything different?

Feelings of threat, fear and being overtaken make racism and discrimination worse, and immigrants suffer from increasing problems.  Trying to “integrate” becomes more impossible as fears on both sides rise.  People become more ethnic-conscious and defensive.  More problem arise.

All this makes it harder for people to understand each other.  It keeps immigrants from integrating, fans flames of ethnic superiority etc.  Governments don’t do much to prevent this because it’s actually “good for business” by keeping wages low.  When trouble breaks out, that makes armed control acceptable.  It all works toward decay of everyone’s rights and happiness. 

If governments wished, they would put more money into education, equality, justice, promotion of acceptance, whatever. But in most rich countries, government is business.
  Until we all take measures to cope systematically with population increase, our interracial troubles will continue.  It’s not inevitable, but intelligent action is desperately needed, and governments aren’t acting very intelligent these days, sad to say.

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By gerard, February 13, 2010 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

Frank, my perception is that nearly all people would prefer to stay with family near where they were born if they could get enough to eat there.  Most people migrate to countries where there are jobs, money, and some hope for a better life.  They send money home to help those left behind. 

Level up the playing field, stop exploiting the resources of “poor” countries for the benefit of “rich” countries, help people survive, which proves to actually cut population growth.  Also teach birth control to help limit over-population and don’t put poor countries into debts they can’t pay, don’t privatize every communal enterprise, don’t sell them Starbucks, and we will be on the road to a humane world.

The “system” promotes inequality, fear, hatred and envy—as I said earlier—because people will do what the government tells them to do if they are scared and lonely.  “Homeland Security”—that’s what it’s all about.  Don’t believe me.  Read history.

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By johannes, February 13, 2010 at 3:00 am Link to this comment

To Frank and Gerard,

We started in the 60ies, with an open mind and very possitief feelings about new citizen.

Now almost 50 years lather we speak about ” La guerre des banlieues” and that is every where in Europe where they are be found.

The Turks, you don’t here, are not to be seen that much, they are eating slowly but surely the basis of our society, they do what all minorities do, make an etnic island in the guest country, so no integration,
just take advantage of all social possibilities, and shit on his culture, values, rules, standards.

I am not an racist nor a nazie, but I love my country, but if I visit I do not recognize my country, their is no identification possible, its gone, its boring and tiresome not to have your roots any more, and I feel sorry for the citizen who must live in this horrible society.

But slowly their is an awakening in the Europeên socities, the people in the street are gething the feeling that this opprebsion of this groups has to stop.


Salutation.

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By Frank, February 12, 2010 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

For one example of the impact of immigration in Europe today, just Google “swedish rape epidemic” and look at the news coverage and the overwhelming ethnic makeup of the perpetrators and victims, along with the change in sexual assault rate over the last two decades. It seems Rape Jihad is becoming a trend there.

Immigrant and minority apologists love to blame poverty for higher crime rates, so I won’t even bother referencing the change in overall crime rates there.  Rape on the other hand, is hard to blame on economics.

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By Frank, February 12, 2010 at 6:11 pm Link to this comment

Gerard, I think you are off base thinking most people are taught these
stereotypes as children. In fact, most who attended public schools in the last
30+ years were constantly indoctrinated with the ideas of racial equality
and diversity-as-a-strength, myself included. For many, that indoctrination
eventually wears off for the same reasons that the stereotypes are actually
learned : observation of society and the ways different ethnic groups behave in
it.

Today’s Europe is a prime example of this. The once homogenous white
countries there with little history or experience with significant immigrant
populations are seeing a significant shift in attitudes in recent years as
European whites have actually had to live with ever-greater numbers of
immigrants. Familiarity, it seems, breeds contempt, in the case of the Middle-Eastern and African immigrants flooding into Europe.Many once-permissive Europeans are becoming alarmed at the observed negative changes in their societies, with respect to crime rates (theft, assault and sexual assault in particular), religious extremism, and racial tension. We now see a resurgence in nationalist political parties and anti-immigration sentiment there as a result. This is only going to increase in time unless the immigration tide is halted or reversed there. 

Most people you perceive as anti-black and anti-immigrant are just people
who love their own cultures and societies and are dismayed to see the
deterioration of it as masses of people from very different cultures come into
contact with it. The only way to ‘unlearn’ this as you have suggested, would be
for whites to ‘unlearn’ love and appreciation for their own traditional European
and American culture, which is precisely the goal of the Anti-Western
Civilization bias that is so rampant in most liberal universities today. White college students these days are given a laundry list of
the historical crimes of Western Culture and whites in general, and are
encouraged to be ashamed rather than proud of their history. The idea to make
whites believe that Western Civilization is not worth defending, so they will just
roll over and give up their own societies to others. Of course, when it comes to
education about other non-white cultures, all they will be expected to learn is
the achievements of other ethnic groups, along with the suffering those groups
have faced at the hands of whites.  This double-standard and guilt-tripping is
just another reasons whites resent multiculturalism, because in Europe and the
US it is almost invariably about celebrating and exalting non-white cultures,
while diminishing and often demonizing white culture and history.

The multiculturalists and mass-immigration supporters need to wake up to the
fact that they are creating a ticking time-bomb of nationalist backlash that is
going to violently explode one day if mass immigration is allowed to continue
unchecked. Tancredo and the tea-partiers may eventually seem like permissive moderates compared to the parties that will rise to power in the future as a result.

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By gerard, February 12, 2010 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment

Frank: ...” advocating for better immigration controls and supporting an English-first language policy in a traditionally English-speaking country” is clearly NOT “mass murdering jews and lynching blacks.”  It just bends in that direction because the people who get upset about immigrants and English-speaking are so often anti-foreigner or anti-black.   
  Reasons:  Fear of loss of employment plus having been taught stereotypes when they were kids, such as “All _____ are _____.”  “You can’t trust _______.”  “Stay away from _________ because _____________.”  All of it has to be unlearned, because:
  If a government, a church or a club can keep people separated and afraid of each other, they can lead those people into mental slavery.  (“Do what we tell you because if you don’t, they (whoever) will do ______________ to you and you will be sorry.”) 
  Such fearful people can never unite and so are easy to defeat, cheat, deceive, mislead, inflame.  It’s called “Divide and Conquer.”

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By johannes, February 12, 2010 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment

To Night Gaunt,

If the creation not meant to be a overwhelming quantity of species, why the creation was not just one being, or creature.

No its just the beauty of our world all differend species, look to the colors and behaviour, its rich and enormity in forms, its nice, sweet and strong and cruel, that how it is and was meant to be.

Our scholars think they do know the essence of live, no it will always be an mistery, every thing has its place and use, the DNA is our passport and our protector, and keep us on trac in our reproduction of our race.

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By Funny, February 12, 2010 at 4:21 pm Link to this comment
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Hey P. T. that was funny! LOL

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By Frank, February 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment

Night Guant wrote: “Tancredo may not wear a swastika or a hooded robe but he
agrees with their racialist sentiments as do a sizable crowd listening to him there”

Right, because advocating for better immigration controls and supporting an
English-first language policy in a traditionally English-speaking country is clearly
equivalent to mass murdering jews and lynching blacks. Thanks for playing.

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By Frank, February 12, 2010 at 3:40 pm Link to this comment

johannes wrote: “To Frank, why shose the naam Frank if you hate the Europeên
people so much.”

My original post was intended to be ironic, Johannes, an illustration of hypocrisy.

Diversity and Multiculturalism are PC code words for anti-white racist policies.

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By Night-Gaunt, February 12, 2010 at 3:17 pm Link to this comment

Tancredo may not wear a swastika or a hooded robe but he agrees with their racialist sentiments as do a sizable crowd listening to him there. [Those that could afford the $525 + the convention goers paid to get in. So it was the more affluent.]

Is this the core of the movement now? If not then they had better tell us that Tancredo, and those like him are verboten to appear or use them in any way.

johannes, IQ is just a number on a test, it can be increased or decreased so that really isn’t a good or complete measure.

Darwin also understood that humans aren’t like birds in that different colors aren’t like different beaks. He knew that the most important aspect of survival wasn’t strength or intelligence but flexibility of adaption to a changing environment.

Too many on the corporate teat these days and more will be on it at the next election cycle as in both official parties work to flush out the remaining Moderate, Liberal and Progressive from their ranks.

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By Frank, February 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment

Gus wrote ” By the way, Tancredo is not a caucasian name nor european name
either.”

Actually, Tancredo is a variant of Tancred, which is Old German for ’ well-
reasoned counsel or advice’.

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By Frank, February 12, 2010 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment

“The first and founding language in the USA, was the dutch Language.”

No, it wasn’t, unless you have knowledge of the USA’s founding documents, i.e.
the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution having been written and
signed in Dutch before the English versions were produced.

A dutch colony is not the United States of America.

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By Brian John Mitchell, February 12, 2010 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment
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The general unemployment rate during the Great Depression was 25%.  How did African American & Latinos only have 13% & 15% in that period?  By poor fact checking?

Things like this make me doubt everything written in an article.

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By Jackie, February 12, 2010 at 2:23 pm Link to this comment
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How can anyone be so proud of being ignorant that they’ll get up on a soapbox
and share it? Why not just take a big diarrhea dump on a public stage and share
how intricately interesting your shit is, cameras rolling of course. We’ve got to do
something about education!

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By G.Anderson, February 12, 2010 at 2:04 pm Link to this comment

The Democratic party, has used this issue for decades, and the Republicans love it.

Why, because the Republicans are a minority party and they must create divisions in order to get elected.

There is nothing more divisive than this issue. The Democrats, own this issue like no other party, yet they have no where to go with it.

While people are busy arguing about it, the Democratic party turned away from supporting labor, helped pass NAFTA, etc., and along with the Republicans kept enforcement down to the minimum.

In doing so they walked away from labor, workers rights, and benefited from corporate support as much as Republicans.

So although, they can wear the badge of multi culturalism, they have no longer any hard edged plans for improving the life of working people, because their just as dependent on crooked corporations as the Repbublicans are.

They sold out their base.

Working people have an unemployment rate of 30%.

So instead of helping improve the lives of all Americans, Democrats instead, sponsor bills for each special interest, a little bit of Candy here and there, to create the illusion of progress, among many special interests, who are now competing against each other for favors.

Using the divisions of people against them, is an old Republican trick from way back when, the Democrats have just made it more elaborate. And the pig corporations love them for it.

No class consciousness will be developing under Democratic party rule.

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By dave, February 12, 2010 at 12:41 pm Link to this comment
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Note to “Inherit the Wind”
We should have kept the entire counry of Mexico upon winning the war, then there would be fewer immigration problems south of the Border with Gutemala….......You sail lost it breeze.

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By George, February 12, 2010 at 10:59 am Link to this comment
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Let us have a Civic Test for the Tea baggers. Let them compete in the spelling bee..and if they finish in the top 1,000, they can vote.

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By Gus, February 12, 2010 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
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Mr Tancredo is just another ignorant bigot that feeds on the racial divide. But what is surprising to me is that not one so-called prominent Republican leader nor activist is saying anything about his comments. They allow him to speak that trash because they are aware that the Republican “base” consists of illeterate white people that will not pass any written or vocal test. I will really welcome a “civic test” for ALL citizens just to prove that a great number of the teabaggers will not pass it. The Republican party is allowing people like Mr Tancredo to speak this trash for political gains. By the way, Tancredo is not a caucasian name nor european name either.

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By JohnMcD, February 12, 2010 at 5:33 am Link to this comment

Sometimes I think immigrants are the real Americans… I have known quite a few first generation immigrants in my family and girlfriend’s family - and I end up being friends with a lot of immigrants as well - and they own a disproportionate number of small businesses despite coming to America with zero cash.  Yeah, as self-employed immigrants who didn’t always speak the language, they probably started off at something worse than the minimum wage but now they’re living well and employing other Americans.

There are people out there who still believe in the American dream, but they’re not the ones who think they’re entitled to it like some kind of patriotic inheritance…

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By camnai, February 12, 2010 at 4:38 am Link to this comment

So now they’re complaining about people who can’t spell? I thought it was the
educated liberal elite they didn’t like. Did I not read somewhere that the more
education you had, the more likely you were to have voted Democrat? Why not
have a spelling test for every voter and get rid of most of the Tea Party? This all
sounds very National Socialist to me.

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By Norman Birnbaum, February 12, 2010 at 4:34 am Link to this comment
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G Anderson refers to Jacques Souselle, but is referring to the very inhteresting French anthropoogist of a previous generation named Jacques Soustelle. He entered politics as a Gaullist and was
a leader of the 58 rising of the army and the white population (often Spanish descended and not French in origin) in Algeria against the government of the Fourth Republic which led in 1958 to DeGaulle’s return to power. That is, he was a protagonist of Algerie Francaise and a model of social inhtegration there which did not work for the Algerian rebels, activists who included a number of persons who made their living teaching French in the Arab states and were quite well educated (others were Algerians who had military experience in the French army). The revolt of the Algerians began in 1954 and dragged on with many horrors until it was ended in early 1962, followed by civil war amongst the Algerians and the flight of nealrly all the European population…..imporbbale here. .

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By Inherit The Wind, February 12, 2010 at 3:51 am Link to this comment

Gee, Frank:
Maybe the people who lived here before Columbus didn’t see the land North of the Rio Grande as something special.  After all, much of the land in the West of what is now our nation, like California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas were part of the Kingdom of Mexico before they were stolen in war by the USA.

And before the “New Spain” was established in Mexico, there was a nation, a major wealthy civilization there, the third or fourth that had arisen in that area.  That civilization was ERADICATED by diseases and Europeans’ only advantage: their superior weapons—steel and gunpowder.  Then all their gold was stolen to build the Spanish empire.

Meanwhile, in the North East, the 5 Nations of the Iroquois were developing a sophisticated system of checks and balances, one that Benj. Franklin studied and adapted and proposed as a foundation for our Constitution.

“America” was fairly arbitrarily picked due to the explorations of Amerigo Vespucci—an Italian whose name somehow supplanted the guy who should have gotten it—and it went to a South American nation: Columbia.

Your tea-bagger view of American history is flawed, false and badly limited.

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By johannes, February 12, 2010 at 2:39 am Link to this comment

To Frank, why shose the naam Frank if you hate the Europeên people so much.

For your information, the Franks where an Frisian tribe, who made Europe again one country, Charlemagne, was their king and became the first Christian emperer of Europe, it was he who trow the Moslims out of Europe, with his figther Roeland who blowed his horn in the Pyrenées,in the Ronceveau pas.

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By johannes, February 12, 2010 at 2:24 am Link to this comment

The first and founding language in the USA, was the dutch Language.

Their is: Multiculturisme
      Multi colorisme
      Multireligionisme.

When Darwin visited the Galapagos islands, he was surprised by all the differend species, they don’t mix, so their colors and form stays the same in their DNA, and illnesses where low.

Its up to the humans to keep their etnics or not, most religions are more or less a bad omen in this world of power seeking.

And importend is also the IQ of the people, plus education, good to be seen in the USA, 3 million humans, citizen, in prisson, is that the fruit of the multi how you call it pot, well it don’t works.

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By omygodnotagain, February 11, 2010 at 7:39 pm Link to this comment

Just reading these comments shows how divisive are the issues of race and tribalism. Sometimes liberals/secularists are quick to say religion is the cause of wars, I would argue tribalism and racial philosophies white and non white are the main causes of strife. I don’t want to hear about Europeans killing 90% of the Native Americans, disease killed most of the native populations as well as an inability to find common ground with newcomers, stealing cattle and crops. The Iroquois in New York ate many settlers..a distasteful fact. It is often forgotten that some tribes notably trading tribes in Colorado became very prosperous, traveled to meet royalty in Europe. Many of their descendents, now intermarried are still well off.
The problems in the Middle East are tribal issues, the problems in Africa are tribal conflicts, the problems in Tibet are ethnic in nature, the inequalities in South America (which promoted intermarriage unlike in the US) are ethnic, racial and class driven.
So, lets stop the baseless white, brown black arguments. If certain groups have identity confidence issues stop blaming all the problems on the other, and recognize those who have succeeded in making a better life and try emulating.

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By yours truly, February 11, 2010 at 7:35 pm Link to this comment
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Multiculturism doesn’t put down caucasians, it exalts all cultures, races, ethnicities and religions as important and contributing members of the family of nations and people.  What multiculturism doesn’t adhere to, however, is the superiority or exceptionalism of any one culture or people, compared to other cultures or people.  And that’s what’s bugging the teabaggers, cause believing they’re better than others soamehow gives them a lift.  Sorry about that teabaggers, but you’ll get used to being just one among equals.  What’s more you’ll feel good about it.  Something like, “Hey, it sure is nice not having those hateful thoughts about some other person just because she or he is Black, Brown, Indian, atheist, long-haired, gay, an immigrant.  Why I even feel better about myself.”

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By Frank, February 11, 2010 at 7:34 pm Link to this comment

Purplewolf, if by ‘America’ you mean the USA, then English is not a foreign language here. It is the founding language.

Please remember that America as a nation did not exist in any form before white Europeans established it. It did not exist as a geographical demarcation, single cultural entity, concept, or even a word until the Europeans made it so. Sure there was land here, both nameless and nationless, long before any humans arrived. Later there were tribal lands. Only a small fraction of the land mass that would come to be known as America was ever known to any one Indian tribe before the Europeans came. No, there was no America until the Europeans discovered it, named it,  and later explored, settled, and developed it.

So please don’t make any collective claims to ‘your country’ in reference to America, except in the context of being an American Citizen.

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By Ouroborus, February 11, 2010 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment

Poor white trash religious fanatics, get in a boat,
cross the Atlantic, step onto a continent inhabited by
roughly 20 million people (non-white) and proceed to
kill 90+% of them. Fast forward to 21st century; poor
whitey once again becoming a minority and has been
thoroughly screwed over by their “own kind” and will
now blame and take it out on the non-whites.
White/Caucasian people are a small minority of the
population of the earth, but leave a footprint the size
of Godzilla; if this wasn’t so pathetic, it might
actually be funny.

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By Frank, February 11, 2010 at 5:25 pm Link to this comment

NEVER FORGET that white people, meaning those of European descent, do NOT have the same rights of self-determination or cultural preservation as the other peoples of the world. I hope we all understand this.

We must be vigilant to be sure whites do not move in great numbers to other
countries populated by non-whites. “Whites Out! and “Whites go Home!” should be our righteous battle cry.

But we can all agree that it IS the right of every other ethnicity of the world to go, without invitation, to European nations or those founded, developed, and historically dominated by whites, to supplant white populations, culture, language, economic success and political power. Naturally, it must be seen as a positive thing to make whites a minority in their own nations, both in Europe and the USA, and to force them to abandon any pretense of rights as a cultural or ethnic group. Group rights do NOT apply to whites, only to others.

For this reason, we must be quick to label as ‘racist’ any whites who try to represent whites as a group in order to preserve the economic success, cultural traditions, or the political power of their own kind. BUT we must also praise efforts by others groups to do the same things, because this is ‘progress’ and promotion of ‘diversity’ when done by non-whites, NOT ethnic self-interest or racism. I’m sure I don’t need to remind you that racism is only a white phenomenon.

One example of the different standards we must apply:

Organizations or individuals working to promote the rights of non-whites in America are to be praised as ‘civil rights’ activists and organizations. This applies to the NAACP, La Raza, etc, and any individuals who advocate for their own ethnic group. On the other hand,  similar organizations or individuals who try to
represent whites in the same way must be condemned as ‘racist’, ‘supremacist’ or
preferably ‘Nazi’ . They really hate it when you call them that, but it is nearly always deserved.

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By FiftyGigs, February 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment

“Problem is, we are all given a different ability to
earn income as a test, to see if we pass our
excessive wealth down to those less fortunate where
it belongs.”

That is truly brilliant. Thank you.

What conservatives don’t get is that the downward
movement of wealth is not only good, but is in fact
great for business. Conservatism isn’t a problem
because it celebrates wealth. It’s a problem because
it celebrates the hoarding of wealth.

Those who readily link the issue of racism with the
issue of “welfare” do so to establish superiority,
not inferiority.

“Someday we might have to face the Nazi’s again.”

We’re facing them now.

Nazi Germany arose in the economic destruction of the
Great Depression. Poverty provided for a desperate
population, eager to accept any new notion. They
elected the Nazi Party, led by Adolf Hitler, a man
who knew it was to his advantage to let things in
Germany get worse.

“[The Nazi] by no means believes in an equality of
races, but along with their difference it recognizes
their higher or lesser value and feels itself
obligated to promote the victory of the better and
stronger, and demand the subordination of the
inferior and weaker in accordance with the eternal
will that dominates this universe.” - Hitler

The greatest threat the the dominant race was the
Jew, who stood in the way by virtue of owning the
media, the banks, but most of all by promoting
liberal democracy, which maintained that all men are
created equal.

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By omygodnotagain, February 11, 2010 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment

Class
Branton Marsalis, Quincy Jones has it
Barack Obama has it
Lonnie Simmons, Oprah aspires to it but lack it
Duke Ellington had it
Tupac doesn’t have it
Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, Madonna don’t have it
Katherine Hepburn had it, Marilyn Monroe didn’t. Jackie O did
Paul Farmer who grew up dirt poor has it Bernie Madoff who also grew up poor lacks it as does Donald Trump. Bill Clinton lacks it, Eisenhower had it.
What are the characteristics
A modesty about wealth and their achievements, an appreciation of their good fortune, a willingness to stand up for things they believe in, civilty
ethics, well rounded education and open mindedness to the positive traits in other cultures and groups, a willingness to admit they are wrong, and an indifference to fame in the spotlight.
There are more.. but you get the idea

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By omygodnotagain, February 11, 2010 at 4:13 pm Link to this comment

Touche Scott, but I was referring to the more traditional conservatives of the North East. They despise the conspicious consumption values of the Nuevo Riche. In Britain, after Margaret Thatcher they were referred to as Larger Louts”, quick buck stock market types flashing the cash, their super model girlfriends and a general look at me narcissim, completely lacking class.

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By G.Anderson, February 11, 2010 at 1:51 pm Link to this comment

Calfiornia was won in global conflict, as was the United States. After many decades of War with the Brittish, the French, and the Spanish.

As Jacques Souselle, pointed out, At the dedication of the Temple of the Sun in Mexico City, 256,000 Aztec Captives had their hearts torn out with obsidian knives and thrown from the steps to bleed to death. Others were skinned alive to honor Tlacaxhipewalitzli, while priests wore their skins as a dress and danced to honor the god. 

Warfare, has winners and losers. Good thing America was here though, as we all might be speaking German now, because without the USA entering WWII, Germany would have won. It would have had time to complete it’s heavy water experiments, and load nuclear warheads on V2 rockets aimed at England, which was stolen from the French.

Someday we might have to face the Nazi’s again, you never know, there might be a splinter civilization of them somewhere in the stars looking for some payback.  Until then, lets save our foolish daydreams and what if’s for the dream time.

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By drosera, February 11, 2010 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment
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Racism is not a white vs. “colored” condition.  Anyone who has traveled the world knows that racism is common in China, Japan, Latin America, and Africa.  And it is not directed towards whites only but towards all racial minorities.  It’s always been that way.  The comment about “whiteness” being the problem is simply wrong.  You could name racial prejudice anything you want, but don’t pick out one race and insist the problem lays there only.  Evolutionary biology explains racism: it stems from tribal coherence and the need to propagate the genes of the group to which one belongs.  Let’s cut out the nonsense that racism is a “white” disease.  It has no basis in fact.

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By NYCartist, February 11, 2010 at 12:42 pm Link to this comment

I will add to samson’s comment: racism exists.
It’s America’s sickness (A great thinker said that,WEB
DuBois), and it’s still true. See http://www.blackagendareport.com

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By cynner, February 11, 2010 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment
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omygodnotagain you may be correct, but in the end, race trumps class every time.

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By scotttpot, February 11, 2010 at 11:35 am Link to this comment

Omygodnotagain-You forgot the vulgarity the rich displays by spending millions
and billions on yachts, cars, golf, homes, wine , restaurants, prostitutes , plastic surgery, cocaine, jets, jewelry, etc.

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By omygodnotagain, February 11, 2010 at 11:22 am Link to this comment

A lot of thought-provoking comments. I am disturbed by this notion of ‘whiteness’, its not about White People but privilege. If that is the case give it the correct name CLASS. Most ‘race’ issues in the US are ‘class’ issues. It is about an outlook on life. To well educated comfortably off conservatives our culture has become coarse and vulgar, and in a general decline, many middle class Americans think likewise.  Who has contributed to this coarseness, Hollywood for sure, think Howard Stern, and the endless leaked celebrity sex videos, Rap music with its bling, violence and rudeness, hard drug
importated mostly from Central South America, violent Gangs, lower academic standards in school, large numbers of minorities failing to graduate. The ‘class’ divide is caused because those ‘conservatives’ believe in civility, wit as opposed to vulgarity, style as opposed to sleaze, striving for knowledge as admirable, and reward
based on effort. Barack Obama would subscribe to those values, as would many Republicans and left wing progressives
And it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

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By scotttpot, February 11, 2010 at 11:04 am Link to this comment

I read there is a gene that creates xenophobia in 15-25% of any population.
These people have a deep fear and hatred of people who are a
different race or color. That would help explain Obama Derangment Syndrome.

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By purplewolf, February 11, 2010 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

Arup Roy Chowdry: Actually, English is a foreign language in America. The Indians, as we were called, were forced to learn their English. Maybe I feel a little put off, but if we had to learn their language in our country, then why do newcomers expect something else?

I have seen some of the questions used to exclude certain people from voting. Thing is, that these people who came up with this idea, would never be able to pass these same questions either, thus leaving no one eligible left to vote. Maybe those who think it is a good idea to question a persons intelligence/literacy show be given these test also, same questions.

As for the division of races, it is time to stop. This could be greatly enhanced by to stop emphasizing “the first black/Hispanic,whatever: mayor,CEO, president”, etc…by drawing attention to a persons race is playing into the racial division we see today. People are people-big deal, they come in various colors and sizes and beliefs,accept it, we are all different in one way or another, get over it.

For those who cannot accept other people not of their heritage, put them all in one or two states and cut them loose from America, where they can all live together, just like in the Republican Dystopia featured in TD last week in Colorado Springs, Feb.5,2010.

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By gerard, February 11, 2010 at 10:03 am Link to this comment

Anderson:  You say:

“2 and 1/2 million people on welfare in Los Angeles county can’t be wrong can they? This country cannot feed and support the people it has now, there has been a relentless tide of immigrants from around the world here, and taxpayers in Califorian have supported them. Meanwhile the schools have disintegrated, the middle class has fled elswhere, the housing market has crashed, and California is about to go bankrupt.”

The argument about LA (or anywhere else in America) not being able to “feed and support” its people rings hollow when you know the vast billions the US is wasting every day killing people in Af/Pak and elsewhere. Also, the “relentless tide” was partly Hoosiers and Okies who rolled over the prairies in trains, rattle-trap cars and busses, out of the Middle West to get jobs in aircraft factories gearing up for WWII.  Foreigners, the lot of them!
And California was stolen from Mexico in the first place.

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By omop, February 11, 2010 at 9:12 am Link to this comment

Tancredo’s emotional outburst is only one in a long line of outbursts first
expressed by the Navajos, Cherokees and others in the following States

Connecticut | Delaware | District of Columbia | Maine | Maryland |
Massachusetts New Hampshire | New Jersey | New York | Pennsylvania | Rhode
Island | Vermont

Includes the following Indian Tribes

Abenaki Acquintanacsnak Algonkin Algonquian Family Arosaguntacook
Atquanachuke Beothuk Family Brotherton Chickahominy Conestoga Delaware
Erie Fox Hathawekela (Absentee Shawnee) Huron Illinois Iroquois Kickapoo
Manhattan Mahican Malecite Marameg Martha’s Vineyard Indians Mascouten
Mashpee Maskegon Massachuset Matinecoc Mattabesic Meits Metoac Miami
Mohawk Mohegan   Moravians Munsee Nanticoke Narragansett Nauset
Neutrals Niantic ( Eastern) (Western)  Nipissing Nipmuc Ojibwe Onondaga
Ontonagon Passamaquoddy Pennacook Penobscot Pequawket Pequot
Piankashaw Pocomtic Poosepatuck Potawatomi Powhatan Saconnet Saluda
Saponi Sauk Seneca Shawnee Shinnecock Susquehanna Tionontati Tutelo
Tunxis Unalachtigo Unami Wampanoag Wappinger Weanoc Wenrohronon

Upper Eastern
Includes the Following States:

Indiana | Kentucky | North Carolina | Tennessee | Virginia | West Virginia

Includes the Following Native American Tribes:

Algonquian Family Bear River Indians Cape Fear Indians Catawba Cheraw
Cherokee Chickasaw Chippewa Chowanoc Conoy Coree Delaware Eno Erie
Foxes Hathawekela (Absentee Shawnee)  Hatteras Hurons Illinois Irquois
Keyauwee Kickapoo Machapunga Manahoac Manahoac (2) Meherrin
Menominee Miami Monacan Moratoc Mosopela Muskogee Nahyssan Natchez
Neusiok Neutrals Nottaway Noquet Occaneechi Ofo Ottawa Pamlico
Potawatomi Saponi Sara Sauk Seneca Shakori Shawnee Sissipahaw Sugeree
Susquehanna Tali Tuskegee Tuscarora Tutelo Waccanaw Wateree Waxhaw
Weanoc Weapemeoc Woccon Wyandot Yuchi

Southeast
Includes the Following States

  Alabama | Florida | Georgia | Mississippi | South Carolina

Includes the Following Indian Tribes

Acolapissa Acuera Alabana Amacano Alibamu Apalachee Apaiachicola Atsina
Bayogoula Bayougoula Biloxi Calusa Caparaz Capinans Catawba Chakchiuma
Chatot Chactoo Chatot Cherokee Chesapeake Chiaha Chine Christanna
Indians Choula   Chickasaw Chitamacha Choctaw Congaree Creek Cusabo
Eno Grigra Guacata Guale Hathawekela (Absentee Shawnee)  Hitchiti Houma
Icaful Jeags Karankawa Karok Kasihta Keyauwee Koasati   Koroa Lumbee
Macapiras Manahoac Matchotic Mikasuki   Mobile Moctobi Monacan   Muklasa
Muskogee Nappissa Napochi Natchez Nottaway Ocale Occaneechi Oçita
Oconee Ofo Okelousa Onathequa Onatheaqua Osochi Pascagoula Pawokti
Pedee Pensacola Pohoy Powhatan Quapaw Saluda Santee(1) Santee(2)
Saturiba Seminole Sewee Shakori Shawnee Sissipahaw Sugeree Tacatacuru
Taensa Taposa Tekesta Tequesta Timucua Family Tohome Tunica Tuscarora
Tuskegee Tutelo   Ucita Utina Waccamaw Wateree Waxhaw Winyaw Yamasee
Yuchi Yufera Yui Yustaga.

For other states and tribes easily Googled.

The 2010 US Census allows for citizens to respond in some 60 or so languages
from Amharic to Yiddish.

Could it be that his comments on immigration is to send a message to Sara
and/or Bachmann and her followers that he would accept being their VP and
only allow God’s chosen people to migrate to America?

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By Dr. Al, February 11, 2010 at 7:35 am Link to this comment
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Listen ~ This is not about immigration.  This is not about White people.  This is about Whiteness.  Whiteness and White people are two very different things. They are not the same!  There are lots of White people; terrific, passionate, supportive, engaging.  What we are looking at here is the retention of a disgusting blur called “Whiteness.” If we are able to clearly identify and market those differences we would release the anxiety of a whole lot of White people who are currently stooped behind their couches wondering, “What is going on?” We will have to give them signature to come out against them. Whites will have to come out against Whiteness. It does not seem to me that they have a sense of internal freedom and/or safety to do that. So they sit in their homes and allow Rachel or Keith to speak their voice…or they have small dinner parties where they discuss it. There is no external way for them to identify other, so there is an understandable fear and apprehension about stepping out there - and turning around and there is no support.  Believe me, you have beautiful Whites out there.  It is the horridness of Whiteness that has currently been given voice and authority. Good Luck!!

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By John K, February 11, 2010 at 6:54 am Link to this comment

You cannot dismiss Tancredo feeling as invalid or crazy as it is shared by millions of Americans. You can’t shame or force people into not looking out for themselves first.

Do some research and you will find that heterogeneous populations do have not problems with immigration up to about 15%, after that they start to feel invaded and things become contentious. This is the way we are wired.

As long as you identify yourself as a European, Asian, German, Japanese, etc. and not as a just a human being, you will experience this.

We can’t move towards seeing each other as human beings unless we experience this personally.  No law or cultural messaging will fix this as long as we are competing with each other for survival. When I experience my survival being linked to yours all this will end.

How do we get there…

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By photoshock, February 11, 2010 at 5:32 am Link to this comment

I find it quite ironic that someone who comes from immigrant parentage should want to stem or stop the tide of immigration, but then, nothing that the ‘tea baggers’ and the people who want to keep the status quo do does surprise me.
We are at the point where the nation is fast going to becoming a bastion of either xenophobic, idiots or a nation of inclusive and intelligent people.
How and what we do in the elections has no bearing on the outcome of what will transpire, it has more to do with the moneyed elite’s decisions of how much immigration can and will take place.
The corporatocracy will make the decisions as to how many people of each nation are allowed to come to ‘America,’ the, ‘land of opportunity!’
America has never been the land of opportunity, never was and never will be. Even the founding fathers of our country, worked to stop people of colour and poor people from voting, the situation has
only become worse and more apparent since the Civil War. We are a nation of bigots and xenophobes. Nothing can change that perception, but we can and must learn to become more inclusive and more tolerant of those peoples who chose to come to the US for economic and political reasons. If we do not then G-d, help this country.
In the movie, Virtuosity, with Denzel Washington, there is a character called SID, he takes over a TV station and kills the first person he sees, a Native American, who by the way is arguing for continuing immigration, which is being hotly contested by another character who is blond haired, blue eyed and wants to close the borders of America to any and all comers.
Are we to become a nation of xenophobes and bigots, who are divided and striated by the moneyed elite? Or are we to become a nation, that is inclusive and has a people’s revolution that will sweep aside the prejudices and misconceptions of the past?
Only time will tell, hopefully we can keep open the borders and allow the growth and stimulation of new people’s to enhance our country.

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By SoTexGuy, February 11, 2010 at 5:07 am Link to this comment

The author is right and Tancredo is wrong.

But putting aside for a moment all the politics of oppression (whether because of race or religion or socio-economic category).. How would America look today if, instead of awaiting force of law to get free access to the voting booth.. those same people had, by some chance or effort or miracle.. become literate and educated in our government and so on? Nullifying such tests.

The Federal government, applying lawyers, guns and money, smile has succeeded in guaranteeing the right to vote to virtually everyone. Would that the Equal Rights movement had instead (or also) been so successful in achieving such a level of literacy in the US!

That’s something that would pay benefits to all. And despite rivers of money that flow into public and private education we ain’t there yet. Not even close.

Adios!

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By TimJanezic, February 11, 2010 at 12:20 am Link to this comment

I wish Tancredo would just go away.  His words do sound racist to me and he gives conservatives a bad name.  I completely understand people wanting to come to the U.S.;  I’d want to come here to if I lived it most places around the world.  However, you also can’t begrudge people concerned that immigrants are going to take their jobs or drive wages down.  I don’t see immigration really as a racial issue, although it constantly gets labeled as that.  I see it more as an issue of people wanting to come here for a better life butting up against those already here trying to preserve their current standard of living.  I think some of the racial stuff probably bubbles to the surface at times, but at the heart of it all is a fight over quality of life between people. 

I personally like having immigrants come to America.  Although, if the floodgates were opened, even with a couple college degrees, my pay might go down sifnificantly, so let’s compromise… I’m willing to sacrifice, but I’m not a martyr.  I think multiculturalism is ultimately a great strength of the U.S. and I think we can lead the world in breaking down the old tribes of race, geography, etc. and bringing in more meaningful ones based on philosophy while establishing enough common ground and understanding to coexist without constant war.  Wouldn’t that be nice?  But you have to understand that those here enjoying a certain quality of life are going to provide some resistance for economic reasons, so it won’t happen overnight.  But it will happen, and that’s exciting.

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By G.Anderson, February 10, 2010 at 9:43 pm Link to this comment

Oh well, just as the Republicans trot out their lets free up free enterprise, by elminating taxes and regulations, mantra, the left can always be counted on to do the same with it’s own mantra of those that oppose imigration are racist, and those that oppose
affirmintive action are racists.

2 and 1/2 million people on welfare in Los Angeles county can’t be wrong can they? This country cannot feed and support the people it has now, there has been a relentless tide of immigrants from around the world here, and taxpayers in Califorian have supported them. Meanwhile the schools have disintegrated, the middle class has fled elswhere, the housing market has crashed, and California is about to go bankrupt.

Yes it’s nice to have large blocks of voters, who rely on welfare, at election time, but it has destroyed the social support system.

Yes, I know the corporations have benefitted from this, but depressing salaries by hiring cheap immigrant labor, has hurt working people of every ethnic background.

This is what is wrong with the left, their policy’s don’t work, and they drive independent voters into the arms of Republicans, and they still don’t get it.

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By John Kace, February 10, 2010 at 8:47 pm Link to this comment
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Samson you are exactly right. Thats why Jimi Hendrix Martin Luther King JR John F Kennedy John Lennon John Kennedy JR were murdered. They were all bridges without trolls. Trip Trap Trip Trap.

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By Inherit The Wind, February 10, 2010 at 8:28 pm Link to this comment

So the tea-baggers are racist? What ELSE is new?  Like this is a surprise? 

Of COURSE they’ll attack John McCain, just like they did in the S.Carolina primary in 2000.  He and his wife adopted a Bengali child, Bridget, and she’s as dark-skinned as the darkest African.

The late Haile Selassie said it best when he dreamed of a time when a person’s skin color was of no more significance than the color of their eyes.

America IS a multi-cultural society. We don’t even realize it when we go to Dunkin’ Donuts and get a toasted bagel, or have a MAJOR corps named “Pizza Hut” and “Domino’s Pizza”.  Nissan oriental noodles are a main-stay of office lunches, and we all refer to something REALLY big as “The Mother of all…” (after Saddam Hussein in 1991 called the war with the US as “The Mother of all battles”.)

We eat with chop-sticks, think nothing of spaghetti, use words from French, German, Italian, Yiddish, and Japanese without even NOTICING. Well-known actors practice Buddhism and “Scientology” and we have churches, mosques and synagogues everywhere.

The anti-multi-culturalism movement is nothing but old-time Southern racism, pure and simple.  By people who are afraid they can’t REALLY compete against those of other races and backgrounds.

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By samg, February 10, 2010 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment
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I’d like to agree with Tancredo that people who can’t read shouldn’t be allowed to vote. I had to pass a simple literacy/civics test in New York City when I was much younger before being allowed into the voting booth. And I don’t think that’s unreasonable. What is unreasonable is that southern whites kept southern blacks from voting by concocting totally unreasonable tests for them that no one could pass and which had nothing to do with what a voter needs to know. It was right to do away with such tests. But now illiterates, white, black and brown can vote, and I don’t think that’s a good idea. I agree, however, that the alternative of preventing people from voting for racial or ethnic reasons is even worse.

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By P. T., February 10, 2010 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment

There is a certain irony in someone from an Italian background being concerned lest the U.S. become a Latin country.

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By Arup Roy Chowdhury, February 10, 2010 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment
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Could Tancredo’s ancestors who got off the boat speak English, even people in UK today hardly speak anything that resembles English or even manage to write it. Next he will say one country, one language, one God. LOL! where have we heard that before.

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By FiftyGigs, February 10, 2010 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment

The Republican Party cannot allow Obama to win
anything. For one thing, he’s a Democrat with a lot
of power behind him. But more than that, he’s black.
Republicans have to prove him to be unable to measure
up. Him. Because he’s black. They’re going to do that
by literally not allowing anything to pass at all.

They never forgave Texan President Johnson for siding
with the blacks. Now, to actually have one in power?
Nothing personal, Barack, they’d do it to any black
man. You’re getting a double-dose of it, though,
because you might just pull it off, and pull the last
support of southern racists out from under them.

Somebody’s always going to hate somebody somewhere.
Here’s the real problem.

This racism is backed by a conservative philosophy
that does not understand or accept the notion that
value is found in things that provide people a step
up. Not just black people. Poor people. Like poor
white people. Like what Jesus did.

Republicans gladly take your tax dollars for weapon
industries, for a space program, agriculture. No
problem. Tax. Spend. Smart people (mostly scientists)
do really neat things with all that hardware.

Less obvious are the simple things done for someone
who has nothing. Ways for him or her to start on a
good course in this society, or to get back on course
after a personal catastrophe. Things that might keep
him or her from turning to crime, for example, with
guns, requiring a (tax payer funded) judicial system,
jails, expense stuff.

Republicans take that from you in heartbeat, but when
confronted by the obvious, they dig in and insist, if
by no other way than by discourse with God almighty
Himself, that all that expensive stuff is needed
BECAUSE “those people” are the way they are.

Republican governance for the past 40 years has eaten
away the foundation of a growing, thriving country.
If American businesses have any sense left, they’ll
deal with Obama and get some good business decisions
done, before Republicans devastate the market.

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By jonathonk99, February 10, 2010 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment

Is Truth Dig a corporation?  If so, can they run for Congress too?

Let’s March.

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By gerard, February 10, 2010 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment

It’s not only the “race for America” but the race for the human race—living space, food, clothing, shelter, livelihood, rights, privileges—all involving millions of people (up to the point of approaching too many).
  Populations need to adopt voluntary birth control, which means sex education, condoms, etc. etc.
  Since experience proves that the ability to work, eat and have an appropriate living space tends to itself decrease population growth, we have reason to encourage more economic justice.
  As populations have to live closer together, multi-cultural understanding will be vitally necessary and interracial relations will have to become peaceable.
(Both goals are possible as present experience indicates progress in both areas.)
  Resistance to future developments and the necessity for change in attitudes worldwide is understandable.  Education and experience point toward solutions, but we can expect “glitches” of more or less violent resistance as people learn to share the world rather than dominate it.
  Maybe such goals are impossible, but that’s what we have coming up on the horizon.  The only alternatives are either a huge settlement on Mars (of whom, and under what conditions?) or mayhem.
  Tancredo and his ilk are for uninventing the wheel—which might be a good idea except that life without wheels would really be a harder challenge..
  We invented our way in and we are stuck with having to invert our way out—or something.
Ubviously, fear and rage don’t solve problems.

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By Samson, February 10, 2010 at 3:39 pm Link to this comment

Those in favor of the status quo will always try to use ‘divide and conquer’ techniques to keep a unified opposition from emerging.  Their worst nightmare is that poor whites and poor others might all realize they are in the same boat.

They try this in all sorts of ways.  Whatever works with whatever audience.  This was the redneck white version.  But there are other versions that work to make sure that blacks for instance don’t want to ally with whites either.

As long as we stay divided, we can not succeed.  When we look over at someone else and say ‘hey, you’re getting screwed too’, and then decide to try to work together to make things better for all, then we can succeed.

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