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‘Entitlement’ Is a Republican Word

Posted on Jul 14, 2011
AP / Susan Walsh

House Speaker John Boehner, right, stands with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor during a news conference on Capitol Hill on Thursday.

By Bill Boyarsky

At his news conference this week, President Barack Obama seized on a misleading Washington word—“entitlements”—to describe the badly needed aid programs that are likely to be cut because of his compromises with the Republicans.

“Entitlement” is a misleading word because it masks the ugly reality of reducing medical aid for the poor, the disabled and anyone over 65 as well as cutting Social Security. Calling such programs entitlements is much more comfortable than describing them as what they are—Medicare, Social Security and money for good schools, unemployment insurance, medical research and public works construction that would put many thousands to work.

It’s also a Republican word. It implies that those receiving government aid have a sense of entitlement, that they’re getting something for nothing. And now it’s an Obama word as he moves toward the center and away from the progressives who powered his 2008 campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination over centrist Hillary Clinton.

“There is, frankly, resistance on my side to do anything on entitlements,” he said before heading into another negotiating session over raising the debt limit and cutting the budget. “There is strong resistance on the Republican side to do anything on revenues. But if each side takes a maximalist position, if each side wants 100 percent of what its ideological predispositions are, then we can’t get anything done.”

It’s impossible to decode anyone’s language because of the maneuvering over the debt limit. But Obama was clear about his long-range goals in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington on April 13.


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Although his proposals were not as radical as those of the House Republicans, he accepted the guts of the Republican-tea party creed—budget cutting and deficit reduction rather than the economic stimulus this recession-racked country needs.

He proposed reducing Medicare and Medicaid by $500 billion by 2023 and “an additional $1 trillion in the decade after that.” And if more cuts must be made, the independent cost-cutting commission authorized by his health reform law would do it, although Obama described the process in a deceptively positive way: “additional savings by further improving Medicare.”

He also left open the possibility of cost cutting in Social Security. “Both parties should work together now to strengthen Social Security for future generations. But we have to do it without putting at risk current retirees, or the most vulnerable, or people with disabilities; without slashing benefits for future generations.”

That, of course, would permit raising the eligibility age for future recipients or imposing more income limits on the program.

Even so, this isn’t enough for the Republicans. Presumably, Obama has offered these concessions and possibly more in the negotiating sessions. After listening to Obama, Speaker John Boehner treated him in a manner that verged on contempt. “Where’s the president’s plan?” he said. “When’s he going to lay his cards on the table? This debt limit increase is his problem, and I think it’s time for him to lead by putting his plan on the table, something that the Congress can pass.”

Instead of surrendering to Republicans and trying to put a positive spin on it, the president should frankly acknowledge the nation’s miseries. As he spoke Monday, unemployment was at 9.2 percent overall and 13.3 percent for veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. African-Americans and Latinos are especially hurt; the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities reported that the unemployment rate was 8.1 percent for whites, 16.2 percent for African-Americans and 11.6 percent for Latinos.

“The depth of the job losses from the recession is unprecedented since the Great Depression, and the length of time it will take just to get out of the jobs hole—much less to restore full employment—will dwarf that of the sluggish jobs recovery from the 2001 recession,” said Chad Stone, the center’s chief economist. “It makes no sense that in an economic recovery still struggling to gain momentum, policymakers are easing up on the gas and threatening to slam on the brakes. But that is just what is happening.”

What’s shocking is that Obama is in the brake-slammer’s camp.

Rather than joining the spending cutters, he should fight harder for pending public works legislation that would provide jobs for construction workers and others on transit and highway projects around the country. Unemployment insurance should be extended. The president should stop bargaining away Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Why can’t we worry about the deficit when the country is back to work?

Rather than trying to conciliate the Republicans, Obama ought to speak out against them. The truth is that Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell don’t want to work with Obama. Their goal is to beat him in 2012 and take control of the Senate. A continued recession with rising unemployment will help them reach that goal.

To stop them, Obama has to be honest, forthright and progressive—and stop using “entitlements” to refer to worthwhile government programs. He’s a writer. He must know what negative nuances the word carries.

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By ardee, July 18, 2011 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind, July 18 at 1:25 pm

The GOP, desperate to get GWBush elected, thought to utilize the far right wing crowd as activists. Like the boy who rode the tiger the Repugs found it far easier to mount than to dismount. Sort of like the Democrats, in need of campaign financing, mounting the corporate tiger and now being unable to dismount.

The so-called Tea Party is, I believe, an almost wholly invented concept of the Koch Brothers who finance it rather generously and, in return, they slavishly mouth platitudes the gist of which they do not understand at all.

Gee thanks Leefeller:
Ardee, no your post was not whiny this time, thanks much preferred. I know the top down thing suckith, but what options do you have?  I believe She may have addressed some of it?

Not really , in my opinion. What She addressed was her rather faulty memory of posts and events. Sure, listing many of the flaws and foibles of her chosen party is a “generous act”, but then declaring that they remain the only viable alternative for the voter is what I would determine to be “slavish devotion” though Lafayette certainly disagrees. That is his right of course.

Just as shenonymous has the right to conveniently forget how she denigrated many Green Party supporters in the past, and followed that up with a post that sort of, kind of, somewhat, but not really, apologized.

Oh, as to your “whiny”;-) request demanding to know for whom I will vote, she, how can I answer until I know who is running? Minor detail for one so slavish to the Democrats that candidates names and histories are unneeded details. I will note that I have voted for Nader in the last three Presidential elections as he seemed to me to be the best of the lot. I will most likely cast my ballot for the Green candidate if only as a protest against the Corporatocracy that has captured your party and perhaps even your soul, and robbed you of your judgment.

All in good fun, really….

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By Inherit The Wind, July 18, 2011 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment

I’m going to be iconoclastic and argue that 3rd party movements CAN be effective, though they usually aren’t.  A third party has arisen in just 3 years (though it was 28 years in the birthing). One party had to a choice: To absorb that 3rd party and adapt most of its positions, or be replaced by it.  It did the former. 

From a technical and tactical POV, the rise of the TeaParty to take over and dominate the Republican party has been brilliant—tactically speaking.  They have simply wrested the Republican party away from any remaining rationality.  But it is still a 3rd party movement.  There’s nothing like it in the Democrats and we need it.

I don’t care if such a third party takes over or replaces the Democrats.  But the energization and dedication, even fanatical quality of the baggers is not to be discounted as a major (while destructive) force in American politics.

It is the model we need to follow. It’s not their politics I suggest we adopt: It’s the tools by which they achieved such spectacular success so quickly.

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By MaxShields, July 18, 2011 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man, July 18 at 1:04 pm

What Obama said in 2006 was obviously before his turn as pusher of the power elite. That’s all changed of course.

But I think his naivete was evident in understanding the US economy. First it is a debt-based economy run by an elite ruling class run on super-growth. The latter is fast waning; and the debt feeds the corporate/financial power structure. He may know that now and so his change in rhetoric.

I think this was interesting from Naomi Klein on the Debt Ceiling as a Phony Crisis:

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By Go Right Young Man, July 18, 2011 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment

A slightly yet related topic.

Why is voting against the debt limit reckless today, but in 2006 Mr. Obama lectured differently:

  “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Sen. Obama then failed even to vote on the issue in 2007 and 2008.  What a display of courage and conviction.


In the spirit of all the Repug bashing I offer this.

Democrat: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feeling - See hypocrite


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By MaxShields, July 18, 2011 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment

Shenonymous, July 18 at 7:07 am Link to this comment

The system you wish to “reform” is beyond “reformation” it needs a complete and thorough transformation. Our institutions and organizations were created at a time long past and can no longer meet the needs of the 21st Century; a time when resources are no longer plentiful as it was when these institutions were emerging and everything seemed limitless. The economics that we run on (or did) is literally running out of gas. It is in the process of collapsing.

We can continue to embrace it’s suicidal decline; or look to change it not by reforming a system which will reject your every attempt to undermine it’s existence; but by transforming where you are; re-thinking the paradigm at every level from money, to energy, to food, to building, to community capital and local wealth capture built on social and equitable justice.

YOU simply cannot do this with these parties who are in a pissing match over the bone. Debt ceilings? What? It’s all a shame just like TARP.

Clinging to some notion of a “progressive” Democratic Party is simply whistling passed the grave yard.

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By Jonno, July 18, 2011 at 10:38 am Link to this comment
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Stop using hte word “entitlements”? Meh, just another capitulation. Just like the word “liberal”. Why not stop letting the right drive the rhetoric here? I say own it, as an American citizen I am entitled to free speech, a trial by jury, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Period.

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By John Best asks, "What IS Progress"?, July 18, 2011 at 8:39 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, Leefeller, ardee, Cliff, and perhaps even MaxShields, I direct you to something Lafayette said,  “All of which will require a miracle never seen in America.” 

The miracle? We are going to have to find a way to work together day-in, day-out.

We’ve been divided so short term profits could be conquered at the expense of our mutual long-term prosperity.  Ah, the promise of patronage, loyalty and reward at the expense of the common good. 

How does the miracle happen?  Perhaps a silent party within the Democratic party which also attracts back the ‘Regan Democrats’.  Those are the people getting screwed worst of all, blue collar Republicans, veterans, and retirees.  Think those groups can come together and stay committed to the idea that they’ll one day break out of the Democratic party, leaving the ‘husk’ exposed to crumble to dust?  Yep, it’ll be a miracle of common sense, intelligence, and dedication, all focused on ‘the common good’.  Those are three rare commodities in an ‘all about me’ society.  , and ‘the common good’ was perhaps always a bit too theoretical for most.

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By Michael Fogelberg, July 18, 2011 at 7:54 am Link to this comment
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Scratch “austerity” too.  The word austerity is not widely used or understood.  “Austerity” does not trigger compassionate emotions or liberal political responses from most people.  It is not evocative.  It does not resonate with meaning for most people.  See my post at:

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By John Best asks, "What IS Progress"?, July 18, 2011 at 7:45 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, and Max,
“A splinter from the (uh, er, reform attempt) of the Republican Party was Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose “Progressive” party. It didn’t last long even though a popular president was its head.” 
This was an interesting even I need to understand, because the general overview as I’ve learned (true or not) portrays TR as the trust-busting end to extreme monopolies in banking, commerce and production as embodied by JP Morgan, Vanderbilt, Carnegie and others.  The period has valid parallels to places to which we are trending, namely, the distribution of wealth, and elimination of regulations which protect common working people from dangerous exploitation.  I’m thinking of the mine disaster last year as an example of the sort of thing we’ll be seeing:

Also around the time of TR and his Bull Mooses, we were at a period when many people were insecure about their ability to survive (let alone thrive) in the ever more industrialized society.  We have this now with the many, many millions of Americans who are not educated to participate in the information age, so they retreat to a known patronage group (to their peril).

Surely, the last three decades of mergers and acquisitions leading to the full globalization of the economy are reasonable points of comparison.

In considering the ripples in the waves of history,  That TD/Bull Moose time period I think is well worth discussing, though it may be a bit off topic for here.  I wonder if there were similar words to ‘entitlement’, rhetorically abused, in that era?

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By John Best asks, "What IS Progress"?, July 18, 2011 at 7:25 am Link to this comment

Lafayette, regarding your post of July 18 at 2:20 am.

I don’t think we are in disagreement, but you use the word ‘entitlement’ two ways, once as something which is given, and once as something which is earned.  I would suggest, and a am no expert by any means, that the word at one time had something one merely posessed.  As in a person who holds titles? 

In any case, I suggest two things, one that the difference between the given-charity-bestowed meaning be first separated from the ‘earned’ meaning.  That will take some work, and may not lend itself to this forum. 

The second thing may indeed be a fit for this forum, and that is the sense of ‘entitlement’ the CEO class seems to have about living large at the expense of the stock-holders and the general public.  This class (with no class whatsoever) lives on all manner of government subsidies disproportionate to the ‘charity’ variety of government subsidy, and they act and speak as ‘entitled’ as the ‘welfare’ classes they routinely rail against. 

So, if indeed the word ‘entitlements’ is a Neo-CON term, let’s use it as they have twisted it with regard to “corporate entitlement programs”, and “tax break entitlements for the rich”.

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By Leefeller, July 18, 2011 at 7:20 am Link to this comment

Max and Ardee,

Top down it is for the Democrats and for the Republicans, I am pretty sure this is the same for all existing third parties out there and probably any new ones you may happen to conjure up.  You are welcome to show me otherwise? This seems to be the way the power thing works, unless you plan on living in an anarchy with no parties and without a government?

Max, I appreciate the more enlightened approach to disagreement,... by the way… I remember we have been down this street before.

Ardee, no your post was not whiny this time, thanks much preferred. I know the top down thing suckith, but what options do you have?  I believe She may have addressed some of it?

I see a vast problem, from lobbyist from Congress person open door good old boy, including the engulfing   style of non lobbying take over of our society by corporations via the likes of ALEC and Rove Pacs.  I would also add the new world order seems a part of all this. 

As for the Kabuki theater from both parties, I also see it as you do, I happen to prefer the Democrats over the Republicans as my theater of choice.

Obama was forced to drop Elizabeth Warren as his choice as head of consumer protection. We are lead to believe it had something to do with the Republicans? I still do not believe it is all Kabuki theater, the Red States are real and affecting peoples lives. The Republicans seem so far right emulating fascistic Nazis control, which makes the Democrats look like Pinko Socialists. so now we get enjoy words like Entitlements for the theatrics of it?

Great post Lafayette, I like your plans, unfortunately I agree,... we may never see any of it come to fruition.

Sorry guys, I know the Democrats are not all one would want, but they are for now the only pick of the litter. Well, until you come up with a better option.

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By Shenonymous, July 18, 2011 at 7:07 am Link to this comment

5 Yups Max Shield – There is always give and take in any reform.
In any conflict where it is not tyrannical on one side.  For instance,
coalitions need to be formed to get legislation passed when there
is an immovable force on one side of the political aisle, and
Democrats, liberal Democrats that is, joined with labor in the 30s
to form a Congressional Democratic majority to pass liberal spending
laws. On the Republican conservative side in the late 30s Northern
Republicans and Southern Democrats (Republicans in disguised in
Democratic coats) formed an alliance that blocked liberal Democrat
from passing union rights, civil rights, and regulation of business
legislations.  Those issues are the ones that actually define fierce
class antagonisms. The reforming liberal-labor coalition could only
pass measures like the National Labor Relations Act in 1935 was to
yield to the Southern Democrats what they wanted, which precisely
was the exclusion of agricultural, seasonal, and domestic labor from
its protections.  There are moderate liberals and progressive liberals,
and weak Democrats who blow wither the wind blows. Such is the
nature of humankind.  You really need to read more history of the
political parties in the US, Max instead of thinking you know it all. 
But that notwithstanding, you sound very much like a Republican
who would discourage reform within the Democratic party since
it is a movement already underway and is gaining traction more
and more everyday due to the transparency provided by the instantly
responsiveness of the Net and a million eyes always watching what is
going on in politics.  The people are not dumb, just uninformed and the
Net is fixing that!  Since people always act in their own best interest it
is only a matter of time when the 99% trounces the 1% as in a rebellion
that has its seeds that have been sown and has actually germinated in
some quarters.  So Republicans, beware, you will be helpless before the
beast once its teeth are all grown in.

The two original national parties were the Federalist Party and the
Democratic-Republican Party. In 1816, the Federalist Party died out
leaving a single political party for a short time. However, a split in the
Democratic-Republican Party in the mid-1820s gave rise two factions:
the National Republicans and the Democrats. When Andrew Jackson lost
in 1824, Jackson’s supporters created their own organization to get him
elected. After his election in 1828, that organization became known as
the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party includes a widely assorted group with different
degrees of reform necessity but is still of individuals whose liberal
values notably emphasize the need for a larger role of the federal
government in order to better insure social, economic, and political
opportunities for all citizens. This is the liberal agenda.  And the
Democrats typically are liberals, whether the recent crop are lily-
livered cozy up to the conservative elements in power at the moment. 
Democrats typically argue for more government control over economic
matters and an ideology of less government control over individual

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By Shenonymous, July 18, 2011 at 7:01 am Link to this comment

Read the history of the evolution of the two-party system and how
the Federalists and the Democratic-Republicans transformed. Reform
was serious and due to Intra-party squabbles, led to factions within
the Democratic-Republican Party and there was a split under Andrew
Jackson’s presidency. A lively revival of the old Jeffersonian coalition
of farmers and tradesmen occurred, and the Democrats successfully
organized at all political levels from the local to the national by
forming clubs and committees, holding rallies, creating news media,
and not least, raising money for their candidates.  The rallying cry was
the elimination of corruption in Washington.  My god, has nothing
changed in 187 years!?  NO! and it never will given human greed.

The Federalists were the party of the elite, the American aristocracy. 
They favored an alliance with Great Britain, where as the upstart liberal
Americans took France as its ally and the notion of liberty and equality. 
However the original Federalists did favor a strong central government
and opposed sovereignty of the states.  The party dissolved during the
War of 1812 due to the indentureship by the British of Americans on
British ships and America declared war on the British, again! We know
how that war ended.

A splinter from the (uh, er, reform attempt) of the Republican Party was
Teddy Roosevelt’s Bull Moose “Progressive” party. It didn’t last long
even though a popular president was its head. 

The reason a two-party system thrives in America is because the issues
usually have diametric opposition and logically a third party would have
to take one side or the other, while affecting the outcome does not
affect the two sided issue.

I do not say not to have third parties and those whose passion lies in a
third option ought to embrace their intentions strongly.  Third parties
definitely have an important role in the electoral process for voters
disenchanted with the record of their respective parties and can have an
impact on who actually wins elections.  But it will be essentially an
election between two candidates from the two major parties. 

Everybody who is conscious knows all of this. 

At last count there are 52 political parties in the United States.  I have
published this information on TD on several forums.  A cup of strong
coffee would wake anyone up to the fact that of these 52, 50 have no
significant traction.  They may act like thorns in the sides of the two
major parties but they themselves make no incursion onto the national

I will repeat and you might just tattoo it on the inside of your forehead
in your file to criticize Shenonymous, my agenda is to defeat the
Republicans. If that is not your intention during this most crucial period
in American politics, well so be it and Amen. It is your choice.  But
please refrain from criticizing me for mine.

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By MaxShields, July 18, 2011 at 5:41 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous the problem is so systemically deep and you want to reform it? It’s like administering an asprin to cure cancer.

I am interested in your historical milestones of US political party reformation.

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By MaxShields, July 18, 2011 at 5:37 am Link to this comment

By Shenonymous, July 18 at 5:06 am

Show me when in history the political parties were reformed in any substantial and enduring way.

You’re dreaming because like a baseball fan you became one and will continue until your dying day remain one.

The political system has only changed to the extent that it has accommodated for moments in time when it didn’t have an answer to an uprising. And even than, the change was mere veneer and could not be sustained. These parties are first and foremost about self-preservation of power and as Ardee has stated they are top-down. It is a reflection of the empire they rule. Those who are in power rule; and the others get to play footsies with partisan them/us. Divide and conquer. As soon as these power structures figure out how to quell any slight uprising they make it disappear and return to business as usual. The media plays along…they even have their own TV shows: Fox for Republicans and MSNBC for Democrats. Both just rile the other with all kinds of names. Occasional even one of those imbecilic stations make a point…but not for long before they go into a tirade of the evil of the other. It’s like US War games: first you demonize then you destroy only the insiders know it’s all just a rotation of power.

And for Leefeller the choice is what you make it. If you think you’re stuck with a Party than you’ve missed the point of transformation at the grass-roots. The Rep/Dem have arranged the whole discussion for their own purposes. The problems we face they CANNOT deal with because they are integral to the problem. We have an economy that is unraveling. Debt Ceilings are the current issue - RAISING THE DEBT and rationalizing why an economy which is debt-based needs more of it to save….who? Last time the economy was “saved” it all went to the Financial big boys…and so what’s this all about. You really think the Republican leadership isn’t on the same page as Obama? Think again.

The system isn’t getting better it’s collapsing at every level. It got us here and it knows only one direction - fast forward more more more. That’s when you say, if you care, NO MORE. Time to re-think what we have.

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By Shenonymous, July 18, 2011 at 5:06 am Link to this comment

”In response to Shenonymous’ lip service to third party building I
would remind her of the numerous times she has slapped down
third party supporters quite succinctly…

Really? At least it was succinctly. I hardly slapped down third party
supporters, but did respond to your denigrations ardee. You can
provide date, time, and forum for such “slappings,” from the archives,
right? The post in question does not contain anything belittling, and I
acknowledge it, even appreciate it, else I would not have hazarded even
one word to you. Now I did not ask if you had a Republican
candidate in mind, but I did ask if you had A candidate in mind? 
Who is the luminous politician who would head your third party? I’ve
offered, in earnest, that if you could show that your third party could
beat the Republicans, then I would support that third party. Silence is
all we get from you on that subject. But I get more rhetoric about my
slavish support of Democrats, which is false. There is a huge difference
between the Republicans and the Democrats. But if you don’t think so,
then show us a party that is different, and one that has a chance to
beat the Republicans.

Max, I’ve heard all your arguments before. The fact remains reforms do
work as the history of political parties would show if you would read
them that is. Reforms of political parties have taken place since this
country was born. It is called Progressivism and Progressive Democrats
of America was organized precisely to transform the Democratic Party.
You just refuse to see all the reforming efforts going on.  What is
your alternative? You express a lot of criticism but offer nothing

To motivate reform, one needs to understand how the electoral rules
shape the number of parties, and can determine the number of parties.
Usually third parties that try to organize are regional or ethnic in nature
but sometimes are based on blue-collar workers and the few remaining
radical small farmers who are hurting economically. By their very
nature, third parties have to start at the grassroots. To get enough
momentum going to have a nationwide infection! a lot of glamour and
glitz needs to accompany any third party activation.

The United States has a single-member district plurality system, which
means that third parties have been miniscule by comparison and short
lasting. They rarely win one or two percent of the vote in any given
election, probably the reason Bernie Sanders is the only socialist elected
to Congress. UC Santa Cruz Sociologist, G. William Domhoff states that
the election of a president from our nation as a whole accounts for the
even greater rigidity of the American two-party system. As I already
mentioned in a parliamentary system with single-member districts,
there is small but actual chance for the establishment of post-election
coalitions between two parties, which is why new labor or socialist
parties exist in Europe. This country, though, is tightly square-knot tied
to geographical units for choosing its Congress. And it is impossible to
replace the presidency with a parliamentary system.

It could be possible to sway the general public to vote for a simple
change in the ballot that would allow for majority and more political
parties. It would take a majority of the votes to win an office, and
according to the theory, voters would rank each candidate in order of
preference. If no candidate won a majority, second choices would be
counted and so on until one candidate had a majority of the votes.  It’s
called Instant Runoff Voting, and is successfully used in San Francisco.
But this system would take years to effect any significant change in
Party ideology and Party action. That goes for any third party that could
possible ascend to a level above the village. More talk needed on this
subject as there are many questions that need asked and answered.

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By ardee, July 18, 2011 at 4:56 am Link to this comment

The Democratic Party is a rotting Corpse

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By Lafayette, July 18, 2011 at 4:18 am Link to this comment


ardee: To slavishly support either party after they both have shown ample evidence of the corruption and venality that is costing us our democracy, our livelihoods. our homes and our children’s future is to court the depths of disaster.

Thank you for the theatrics, but nobody is “slavishly supporting” the Dems. On the Right, that may be happening because it is a political monolith.

The Dems are too “rainbow coloured” to follow slavishly anybody. The typical Dem supporter is not a member of any union, is typically middle-class and is fed up with the system - that s/he once believed in - that has showed its limitations.

The Dems are also highly variegated politically with numerous subgroups each with their own political agenda. 


You are right to quote Santayana about the lessons of history. If we don’t learn from them, then when history repeats itself (which it does but usually in different ways) we shall make the same mistakes. Which is precisely what is happening presently.

The SubPrime Mess and Great Recession is a remake of the the Stock Market Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression of the 1930s (that lasted until WW2 was declared). The resemblance between the two is amazing, both were preceded by periods of frenzied binging and both economies of the time cracked abruptly and resulted in calamitous unemployment.

The same policy mistake was made in the early 1930s to administer “austerity measures”, which led to a general economic contraction as countries did the same world-wide. Roosevelt finally had an epiphany with his New Deal, which - after a seminal work by John Maynard Keynes - became known in economic annals as Keynesian Stimulus Spending.

The Replicant Crazies refuse to see history for its worth, because they are tied into a Gordian Knot of dogma. One should expect nothing of them, because there is nothing that can liberate them from the dogma (and their genuflection at the Altar of the God of Mammon).

This year is half gone and we are entering into our quadrennial presidential reelection year - which explains 99.99% of the present fuss in LaLaLand on the Potomac. The Replicants have resorted to absolutism in its crazed effort to recapture the White House.


We can fix this problem by getting the Dems to enter into their platforms real progressive values. But for any progressive measures to be implemented, aside from convincing Grassroots America of what they are and why they are needed, the political heartland needs bypass surgery.

To wit:
* The political manipulation of gerrymandering has ossified the two-party system and must be put down.
* The political class has become ensconced and thus ossifying because there is no tenure-limitation. Renewal is needed by politicians who have no links to BigBusiness. (If such is humanly possible in America.)
* Political manipulation by business election funding is at an all-time high, which contravenes a representative’s first duty to fulfill his/her duty to their constituency. The reign of the Roberts’ Supremes must come to an end soon - one more nomination by Obama should do it. A Special Investigating Committee should start pursuing Clarence Thomas.
* The non-political agents that work in state/government agencies, particularly in market oversight roles, are using LaLaLand like a revolving door. This sort of invidious self-promotion is contrary to the best interests of truly free and diverse markets. It must be stopped.

All of which will require a miracle never seen in America.

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By ardee, July 18, 2011 at 3:32 am Link to this comment

Fourth and last I hope:

I strive, Ms nonymous, to remain as above board and insult free as possible but I do not plan on letting such smarminess as ,in my own opinion, you display, to pass unchallenged.

Oh Lee I trust you find no whining herein, or do you just attempt to distract from my message?

Geez Louise this prohibition against multiparagraphs is bullshite!

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By ardee, July 18, 2011 at 3:31 am Link to this comment

part three, hey admnin, put down the doobie and fix the forum please

Anyone who has put in the time at the grassroots level of the Democratic Party, and I have done so, knows full well that the organization is a top down structure and no path for change exists, unfortunately. Candidates are selected in smoke filled backrooms and forced down the throat of registered democrats. Before anyone thinks of primaries I offer that the names on those primaries, and I do not speak to local elections here, are chosen for the voter not by them, thus either candidate on that list is one pledged to continue DLC policies, and thus on their knees to the corporate masters.

I believe fully, and will continue to state this, that the way to overthrow the creeping fascism that has wrecked our republic lies within third party building. I further state that She’s nod to reformation of the Democrats is an impossible goal as would be the same suggestion towards Republicans. Her nod to third party supporters is pretty darn shallow as well, and I base this upon the history of her opinions here not just this latest effort.

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By ardee, July 18, 2011 at 3:29 am Link to this comment

part two for software bug:

To say that you find third party building an OK pastime ,just not now, is quite the silly tack to take I think. It seems rather obvious that the time for such will, in her mind, never be right. If one refuses to learn from history one will be doomed to continually repeat it ( with apologies to the author of that quote for my taking license with it).

History plainly teaches us that our current system is simply unworkable for any but the extremely wealthy and the corporations they control, as they do the government that now thinks only corporate welfare is an entitlement worth saving. To slavishly support either party after they both have shown ample evidence of the corruption and venality that is costing us our democracy, our livelihoods. our homes and our children’s future is to court the depths of disaster.

Perhaps,[Lee and She are more well meaning than they seem to be to me. Perhaps all the lists of Democratic Party venality that are admitted do not sway either from their blind loyalty, but it seems a contradiction to admit their uselessness and insist that continuing to support them is the only plan worthy of following. The suggestion is offered to “reform” them but the way to do so remains unstated.

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By ardee, July 18, 2011 at 3:28 am Link to this comment

for both Leefeller and Shenonymous

I am accused of whining, perhaps,Lee, you might point out an example of such. She accuses me of rudeness, and past examples of such abound. But the post in question contains neither examples of such behavior and, to the best of my knowledge I never whine.

I am asked for alternatives to voting Democratic, even asked if I have a Republican candidate in mind. A puzzling yet sort of expected tactic from Democratic apologists and loyalists. Nevertheless a thoughtless and seemingly stuttering attempt at slur when I have made it very obvious in numerous instances that my own strategy for change relies upon building a third party, one pledged to avoid the pitfalls that have ensnared both major political parties in the web of corporate funding.

In response to Shenonymous’ lip service to third party building I would remind her of the numerous times she has slapped down third party supporters quite succinctly. Please do not deny it as the proof resides within the archives, much as does my own rudeness in the past.

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By MaxShields, July 17 at 7:50 pm

Nice one Max; there’s a sub-thread here which is
hotting up; pass the popcorn and yes, another beer

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By Lafayette, July 18, 2011 at 2:20 am Link to this comment


JB: We have foolishly allowed the word ‘entitlement’ to infer a dignity on people who benefited from charity, and now we pay the price.

Yes, perhaps we have “allowed” that manipulation of the language to happen. American-English is so elastic that one can turn it inside out. Elsewhere in world, however, try that manipulation and it will be stopped dead.

Both Health Care and Social Security are central to the personal dignity of all people. They are not “charity”, they are rights or entitlements that humans have come to expect because they work hard to obtain them. 

Entitlement means to “give a right to someone or something”.  No more, nor any less. Giving the right to the American people for a decent National Health Care system has a great many benefits (that I have outlined often enough to bore everyone).

Giving young Americans the right to a decent postsecondary education (just as they have the right to a primary and secondary school education furnished by the local community) permits them the skills and competencies necessary for this Brave New World where the US no longer has automatic “rights” to new markets because we invented the underlying technology. Access to technology is very easy. (All you have to do is buy the “rights” for it … and you are “entitled” to employ the technology according to the manner in which the right was transacted.)

In the same way, by paying taxes, Americans have earned the right to decide their entitlements. Most Americans readily accept the fact that both Health Care and Retirement Pensions are “rights” that they have paid for … even if, factually, regardless of how much they have paid in, they will be paid out much more than that sum.  Still, both remain an “expectation” of the American people.

Where there’s a problem is the fact that we’ve had a three-decade history of lower taxation and lax market oversight that has had cataclysmic financial consequences. Just look at two of them:
* Health Care costs have skyrocketed to the point that they have afflicted competitiveness of the American Industry & Commerce.  Total health care costs are around $7300 per man, woman and child. How are they recuperated, these costs? In part, by a government subsidy to corporations (aka Corporate Welfare) to purchase private HC-insurance and for the other part the costs are factored into the price of all the goods and services we buy.
* The SubPrime Mess has hobbled an economy and the “entitlements” that we once took for granted are now menaced.  Once off-the-table, they are now on-the-table.

The word entitlement has not changed. In the aggregate, however, entitlements are now more endangered than ever. (Where you live, not where I live. The Right has been in power for the past decade and not once did anyone in office, even wistfully, muse about taking down French entitlements to a National Health Care and National Education Systems (from primary-to-tertiary education). They would not dare do so.

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 9:06 pm Link to this comment

So MAX the alternative option is what? Though it seems to the Max any disagreement must be a joke.
Does this mean I am supposed to be a mind reader Max? I must say in Max’s case I use the word mind loosely, (you deserve it) ... what do you have to offer Max?

Max, I came onto this thread late and missed your fist post, guess I missed the MAX fact we all loose, ...I disagree with your opinion, guess that makes me a joke?

I mentioned Obama using the word Entitlement earlier in this thread,... notice Max, you have not used that word, unless I missed it,... I believe this was the premise of the article, so in any of your posts do you offer options, ideas or alternatives?  Anyway I am glad to know ALEC is not a joke according to MAX… “no, no, no”, so glad to hear it Max!

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By MaxShields, July 17, 2011 at 8:33 pm Link to this comment


No no no ALEC is not a joke you are!!!

This article was about Obama’s use of the word entitlement and how it was an example of how he has succumb to the Republican lexicon. Personally he did that many years ago…but that’s another story.

ALEC presented in these subsequent posts are an attempt to change the subject by the Kool Aid kids, you being clearly one of them and apparently Cliff Carson as well.

Every election you guys march out like you couldn’t learn pain if it HIT you smack across the head. Your not Americans or even citizens of the planet Earth - YOUR Democrats by God!! And the enemy is the Republicans and aren’t we so proud to be in this sinking ships and still fighting over who’s worse.

A joke - a tragic and dumb-ass joke you folks are.

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment

So ALEC is a joke? Thanks for the heads up Max…. What ALEC does not exist on your radar,... so are the Red States a joke?  Maybe you do not like unions or women’s rights how do you feel about making it very hard for voters to vote? Yeah it’s a a real joke all right,... and those ass holes are laughing all the way to the bank!

So changing the Democrats is mission impossible, change will never work and that’s it?... What options are you offering?

Maybe you and RD should get together and come up with something other than the 7th planet from the sun, ...after all whining can only go so far, but maybe you will make it to the moon!

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By Cliff Carson, July 17, 2011 at 8:15 pm Link to this comment


Yes, I do mean the Republican Party that wants to trash Social Security and Medicare and give more to the 1%.  That crap about the 1% providing us jobs if we just give more has been going on since early in the Bush Administration.  Unless you lived on Mars you witnessed what that philosophy brought down on the American common citizens. 

Unless you are one of the 1% I can’t see why you would want the Republican Party to represent you.

Surely there must be a reason that you would support a party that tells you over and over and then proves by their actions that they represent only Special Interests and not the other 99%.

If you are one of those who will vote out of Party Loyalty, why not just admit it and tell us you are voting a Republican no matter how they put the screws to you.  At least that is your right.  And I for one won’t be wasting my time trying to get you to see the light.

If you can’t see it already, ask yourself why.  It is none of my business why, but I would like you to realize that people who vote Party Loyalty bring the destruction down around all the rest of us as well as themselves.

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By MaxShields, July 17, 2011 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment


I’m sorry but you can’t reform the Democratic Party. It’s been tried nearly every election cycle. It doesn’t work.

Not being “happy” is not a cry for deep systemic change…its a deep sigh which does absolutely nothing to change anything.

First both parties are old-time institutions with deep roots in all kinds of hypocracy and corporate business as usual. What they produce are the kinds of “leaders” we get. They shape those leaders to meet both the electorate that is need to rubber stamp their roles; and more importantly the corporate power players who run the joint we call Washington DC; and produce the tax laws that provide them with zero taxation and all kinds of benes.

Welcome to the United States of America; not the one you think was; but what it is. The system and its parties are on perminent self-preservation. That’s what institutions due regardless the toxicity they’ve acquired to the rest of us. It doesn’t take degrees or obfication or word loop da loops to see this for what it is. The system knows how to take your yawning despair and turn it into mush. It does that while you sleep. Those it really fears, not you dear Shenonymous, it marginalizes and has you and your ilk do their fighting. And then there’s the biggest bogus faux conflict between the bobsey twins - Frick and Frack aka Dem/Repub.

I expect Shenonymous you’ll be in full political Dem protection form as the election cycle nears. It’s Ground Hog Day all over again…

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By TAO Walker, July 17, 2011 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment

Anybody interested in some (herown"self”-provided) insight into the cognitive
difficulties afflicting the anonymous female (of what species, exactly, is
not….well actually specified) who takes up so much cyberspace here, is invited
to go to the “legendsofamerica” link she offers below.  Read, especially, the first
three or four paragraphs (which their bluff-running citer seems not to’ve done),
and come away informed that this Old Man’s description of the origins of
“Sioux,” and of how the People she again insults “name” their own Nationality,
was accurate.  Hers was either ignorantly silly or intentionally dishonest….take
your pick….though, on-reflection, those are not mutually exclusive

Among Native Peoples the social and spiritual function of the Heyoka or
“Contrary” or Backwards-living Holy Person is vital to the health and wholeness
of our Communities.  So those who get what is known among some of us as the
Thunderbird Vision, and who fulfill the great challenge it lays upon them, are
much honored and appreciated. 

On the other hand, people who only take it upon their “self” to behave always
as CONtentiously as they can, because it gets them attention and so caters-to
their bottomless appetite for a feeling of “self”-importance, are recognized as
being ill….and treated according to the presented symptoms of that illness.  The paper-thin-skinned (but callously club-tongued) “individual” hiding behind
the mask of s/henonymity, seems to be such a pitiful ‘one.’ 

It is, in-fact, the preponderance of evidence available in her own voluminous
verbiage here, including her gibbering mockery of anybody felt to be
insufficiently in-awe of her offensive verbal ‘skills,’  and her now-proven-
baseless (out of her own virtual ‘mouth’) claim to “have known the Tao all (her)
life,” among other things, which taken altogether leads this Old Indian to
suspect this “individual” is now too far gone in her “self”-delusion to be helped
by any merely Human intervention.  “She” might be among those who just have
to (as it says in hexagram 24, Return) “go out and then come back in again.”

A full dose of The Medicine that is The Living Virtue of Organic Functional
Integrity will be here to heal her “hurt,” anytime s/he does that Ceremony….and
us surviving Free Wild Peoples, of ALL Kinds, “guarantee it.” 


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By Leefeller, July 17 at 9:41 am

Aaaahhhhhaahhh ALEC. So when did the topic of this thread change from Obama’s Republicanism to ALEC.

What a joke.

Cliff Carson, I’m going to assume that when you say get rid to the Republican Party you mean the Party that calls itself the Republican Party and the one President Obama belongs to; Republican lite. I continue to assume that until you correct or confirm me.

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By Shenonymous, July 17, 2011 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

Now more to the topic issue: The assault by ALEC, the so-called
council that has as its membership conservative state legislators
and corporate executives, who shape language that now appears
as a litany in several states.  There are watchdog groups like
the Center for Media and Democracy and Common Cause, who are
keeping their attention locked onto what the organization is doing.
FOR THE RECORD: An earlier version of the Hamburger and Banerjee
LA Times article, reported that ALEC spokeswoman Raegan Weber
said that corporate leaders have a prominent role in drafting
the group’s bills and resolutions. (my bolding).  This organization is
composed of over 1,500 conservative state legislators and executives of
an unspecified number of executives of the biggest corporations in this
country!  We should write to Bernie Sanders at and ask him what is going on and who is
doing anything about it.  We need to do something about it ourselves. 

You asked for a possible candidate who would be acceptable as a
Democratic candidate and that would be Bernie Sanders who is
currently an Independent. 

The problem is ardee, and it is not my intention to get into any
argument with you, as I think we are closer in political philosophy than
might be thought, we just argue a lot because you make terribly
denigrating accusations about my person and what I believe, but we
shouldn’t since it wastes our energy.  And with our history you know I
will not allow myself to be belittled one speck.  I have said it before, a
few times, I am not happy with much of Obama’s inaction against the
Republican onslaught.  Nor am I happy with the general record of the
Democrats in Congress, and definitely not happy with the Supreme
Court, but in my unhappiness I have also said that the only way to a
better country is to rid it of the vermin Republicans.  The only way to do
that is to reform the Democratic Party since it has the numbers that can
beat the shit out of the Republicans.  That is not to say that third
partiers ought to stop their efforts to construct an effective new party. 
Get one going that has potential and even though I remain a Democrat,
I will support your third party.  As Leefeller asks, do you even have a
candidate who even makes a blip on the political radar?  There is no
one unless it is someone like Alex Baldwin who already has a
identifiable reputation and is well known.  I have given statistics about
how many third parties there are now and historically have been and all
to no avail.  If you believe we need a third party, then by all means do
what you can with all your energy to create one.  My agenda is single
minded, tunnel visioned, to beat the Republicans. There will be time to
start a viable third party when that deed is done.  I will not waver one
centimeter and do all I can to prevent a fragmentation of the potential
for that to happen.  For surely either the Democratic Party reforms and
we get new blood in Congress who represents the people or a third
party will be on its way in.  Too bad we do not have a parliamentary
system as it would be a hell of a lot easier to threaten the Democrats. 
As it is, the Republicans threaten us and we must work through the
best means we have to defeat them.

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By Shenonymous, July 17, 2011 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment

The would-be indian, Cuòwù de fangfa wòkè, still chases the Queen
She. You are too attached. You must have so little to do in your old
age that you try to have fun electronically frolicking at stalking
Queen She.  It is you who do not know The Great Sioux Nation,
wannabe indian.  You are caught going the wrong way again!  To help
you out, poor thing, go to this website and read it then maybe you may
speak to me again.  Consider it a kindess for you certainly are not
deserving.  Then to fill in a little
more, visit maybe you can
fake it a little better if you actually learned something about the Sioux. 
You obviously know so little about the Sioux that you are only a clown
at speaking about this great confederation of people.  It is a shame
since you belittle them in your lack of knowledge, to not know that
Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota are dialects.  What a shame to denigrate
them on a public blog.  If you googled Dakota/Lakota/Nakota you
would find 72,000 results.  I suggest you read all 72,000.  Then maybe
you would be qualified to speak about them.

And it is true that the Tao that can be defiled, and the Tao that can be
betrayed is not the Tao.  That is why you are a fake, and not the Tao. 
You are a betrayer and a defiler of what you imagine to be the Tao. 
You are only on TruthDig to distract the truthdiggers away from the
issue of the archevil Republicans.  But we won’t let you! 

Dao na

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 3:37 pm Link to this comment

FYI: my source for Krugman statement:

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm Link to this comment

Clash, makes sense, but unfortunately easier said than done. 

Ardee what options are you promulgating,... you do know… whoever is in office will not please all the people all the time…, Cliff made a comment that Obama had a chance to be the best president in history, I suspect a possibility,... but a tad on the clairvoyant side of predictions.  I would have had the same hope for Jimmy Carter an honest man.

On the other hand the Republicans seem to be working so damn hard at pissing off all or most of the people all the time. Again ALEC seems the corporate elephant in the room, who accordingly have been working for 50 years to institute its agenda of Union Busting, constantly pushing anti peoples rights (entitlements)  and now with the Republican majority in the Red States and at the Federal level Congress is pushing their agenda quite hard, a full court press if you will and Ardee sees Obama as the same?  I do not get it Ardee.

I see differences between Democrats and Republicans but not all as in the absolute all   Obama has had nothing but contention from the Republicans since he has been in the White House. Just today he dropped another name from his cabinet choices. I suspect as Krugman states,... the Republicans never have and never will accept the validity of a Democrat presidency.  Only difference this time I believe there may be a bit of racism involved.

One could say the Democrats are more enabling with a much more capability to be compromising then Republicans? Which I find sometimes a bit over compromising, but this is because I happen to disagree on the topic at the time.

For me it would be important to find Democratic candidates or independents who support my ideals, which for me would be the common good. Ardee who do have who will support your ideals?  Obviously you do not like Obama as the Democrat or the Democrats in general,  so do you have a Republican you like? Do you have a special secret candidate in the mix? What are your options? I do not see any, but maybe you have an option in the closet?

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By John Best asks, "What IS Progress"?, July 17, 2011 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

Lafayette, July 17 at 1:03 am
“Entitlement is a perfectly fine word for Public Services that Americans pay for with their tax dollars and expect in return.”

True, but don’t forget by using the proper negative inflection, and using ‘entitlements’ to describe ‘charity’, it taints the word ‘entitlement’. 

We have foolishly allowed the word ‘entitlement’ to infer a dignity on people who benefited from charity, and now we pay the price.  The ‘slurry’ of these words has drifted out to the ‘regular citizenry’, has sunk in, the subtlties in difference have been lost to them, and now, they are going to lose their social security, medicare, etc…..programs which have been paid for through payroll deductions, in other words, programs to which they are entitled. 

As for Education, perhaps the young aren’t entitled to it, but we are idiots not to be certain they have the best they can as individuals handle.  How else do we pay for the next generations.  People seem to think they are so very special they will survive without these inter-generation transfers of wealth.  Perhaps the seed corn has been squandered.

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By Clash, July 17, 2011 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment


You have come across the most correct observation of those that control the resources and access to said resources to which their comfort is built on. Those that control the depletion of resources are the same folks who still believe that city states are sustainable, and the constant rape of our habitat is is the price they will gladly pay to maintain their way of life. I would caution, not to count on the recovery of these animals from the insanity that drives them. Nor would I expect anyone who is comfortable in their current situation to resist, for the insanity runs deep and has afflicted this social order for many years.


The best way to rid an economy of debt, is to dispose of the debtors.

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By ardee, July 17, 2011 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment

A half a rat’s ass chance is better than a whole rat’s ass no chance and a guaranteed 100% annihilation.

But, She, then all you have is a rat, and perhaps only a half a rat at that. So what have you gained in the end except the end of a rat?

  The second fact is there is only one candidate for the lesser evil side, like him or not! In the arch evil camp, all the vermin are scratching each other’s eyes out and it is a circus to watch.  Whoever wins the 1%ers’ Party nomination will be eyeless then to begin with which will accompany
their coldblooded brainlessness.  But they were already blind to the needs and will of the people.

Oh dear, Shenonymous, I am so in sympathy with the difficulty of your position here; still trying desperately to make a silk purse out of a corporate loving Party, your own. I know you to be intelligent but fail to understand why you use said intelligence in such a wrongheaded cause.

Obama and the Democrats are really not a bit different from their counterparts across the aisle in the single most important reason why not to vote for either. They are as wedded to the corporate masters that actually run this government and thus this nation as are their GOP opponents.

Certainly the GOP seems to have cornered the market on wackazoids and fruitcakes,a result of their decision to cultivate the freak show in order to gain so many hard working tools, as you point out. But , while the language of their spokespeople may be more rational appearing, while their campaign promises may spark a feeling of kinship one cannot avoid the facts of history, very recent history in fact which cannot have escaped your attention, being, as you are, such a perceptive and intelligent soul. Obama and his party, whether in the majority in the legislature, or in the minority, have worked diligently to further the profits of corporate America and screwed all the rest of us, including you my dear.

To continue to support a two party Duopoly seems madness ,frankly, and can only lead to the same damnable result, the screwing of the working and middle classes and a continuation of the migration of money to fewer and fewer. Perhaps, while residing behind a dumpster in some alley, the offspring of those who saw as you do can take some small comfort in the fact that their dear mommy or grandma was a loyal democrat to the end.

I may not be correct in my analysis that only the rise of a third party dedicated to resist corporate control, but I believe it far better to do so in place of continuing loyalty to your own party which has screwed us every damn time.

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By TAO Walker, July 17, 2011 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment

Not surprising, really, that a certain “self”-proclaimed know-it-all-here is
woefully ignorant of the fact that “Sioux” was a pejorative label applied to the
Dakotah/Lakotah/Nakotah Nation by some of their enemies….and so adopted
also, of course, by that “self”-declared mortal enemy of All things Native here on
Turtle Island, the wasichu pseudo-‘nation’ now deep in its own dying days.  So it
is “She” her"self” who, again, “betrays” a People about whom she knows nothing.

She seems not to know, either, that “the tao” that can be “defiled” or “betrayed” is
NOT The Tao.


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By whitedog, July 17, 2011 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment

I am also quite alarmed-cautioned that one of Obama’s deals might be to look bad enough to reelect another Republican. We must do our best to protect him—and ourselves.

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 12:41 pm Link to this comment

Clash may be onto something, the concept of defaulting on raising the budget is the same as attacking entitlements for the common people, it clearly means not paying ones debts, the tea bags are hoping not to and the Republicans seem to be playing Republican Roulette.

Now I am not an economist or expert on how the money is screwed with at the Federal and State levels. I suspect the top 1 percent who have their money tucked in Swiss Bank accounts and the Cayman Islands will be a lot better off then those retired folks depending on Social Security and retirement and probably most common people.

When I look at the Tea Bags support of people like Wisconsin Walker, and the Republican candidates, I see Tea bags actually pimping for for the Koch Brothers via ALEC, the picture sort of makes sense,... hell I will throw Murdoch and Fox into the mix.

Maybe the idea is to make the USA become like India, which means most of the people are supposed to become like the huddled teaming masses and untouchables.

The Republicans keep saying they know what the people want, except they are not telling us which people,... obviously not me and most people I know, I think they mean the top one percent of people and of course people too, like non profits corporation clubs like ALEC.

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By whitedog, July 17, 2011 at 12:37 pm Link to this comment

Tao walker, its funny, I have just reread the Mari Sandoz biography of Crazy horse several several times, read the autobiography of Grandfather Wallace Black Elk daily, and read Mari’s The Battle of the Little Bighorn over the lest few days, short but sweet, and terribly sad and agrivating. Have gone to sweat lodges and have loved the natives from an early age, as well as Jesus himself and the baldheaded men in robes, studied Zen hard for three years till they drove me out, the American zennies, was I too sincere? Yes things have been very ridiculously skewed for so long—-went to a screening of the fine film of Howard Zinn’s history of the US and one of his talks. The founding fathers weren’t the exemplary men we are led to believe in elementray school, so sad to discover later, why do we lie to our children, might have something to do with why there are learning disabilitiess—and no I don’t want any psychologist to cure them, no—-those people make my skin crawl, especially ones that might be hired by the government- who suggested that?

Its not the Republican Party that is running things though they seem the most complicit with those who are. Think of an extremely obeise person and then replace fat with cash. I was raised among the wealthy, and there is no more agonizing fear than that entering the University Club or the American Yacht Club dining rooms. And I ride a bike throughout New Haven at all hours, a small 64 year old woman. I worked for my parents friends for years and boy they could sure skin a broke young artist with no compunction, so what if they know you’re starving and have known you for most of your life. The white world is morally bankrupt, I pray every day for the reality they are doing their best to accomplish to occur to them. They can have their fine homes and all the sweet antiques and parties and still serve the people who might not even have a bank account. Why they can’t find the way to see that is beyond me.

The natives were treated with awful brutality, but it must be some comfort to know their tormentors treat their own with the same incredible deadpan cruelty. Hence the sad policies they come up with.

Thanks for the encouragement to write a letter. I find the lucidity here and fine writing somewhat intimidating and aweinspiring. I will do my best for you all.

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By Clash, July 17, 2011 at 12:14 pm Link to this comment

Entitle: to give a right or claim to.
Entitlement:something to which one is entitled to.

As a wage slave, and now an occasional wage slave, the empire has always taxed my earnings, with the promise that the specific taxes for social security and medicare would be returned when needed after pulling the stone of empire was no longer possible. Now as the the governance of the empire is becoming unstable, and left to the terminally mad, we observe the the consequences. Entitlement, while a fair description, a debt owed is more correct. So much for social contracts and the noble lie.

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By Shenonymous, July 17, 2011 at 11:46 am Link to this comment

The big kahunas have spoken.  The 1%ers suck bigtime, and the
Democrats suck nearly big time.  You guys could be right.  There
are the arch evils, the 1%ers, then there are the lesser evils, the
Democrats.  In any math book, lesser is always lesser than.  The
fact is, and math doesn’t lie, with the arch evils you can be sure
all the social programs will be obliterated on behalf of their 1%
massas, with the lesser evils, some could survive.  I’ll go with the
lesser evil.  A half a rat’s ass chance is better than a whole rat’s ass
no chance and a guaranteed 100% annihilation.  The second fact is
there is only one candidate for the lesser evil side, like him or not!
In the arch evil camp, all the vermin are scratching each other’s eyes
out and it is a circus to watch.  Whoever wins the 1%ers’ Party
nomination will be eyeless then to begin with which will accompany
their coldblooded brainlessness.  But they were already blind to the
needs and will of the people.

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By Cliff Carson, July 17, 2011 at 10:31 am Link to this comment


That was my point.  I have trashed Obama for exactly what you noted.  And I was sincere in doing it.  When he was elected he had the opportunity to become one of the greatest Presidents ever.  The Nation was behind him and he had promised to eliminate the excesses of the Republican caused “Most Disastrous Decade”.  Obama failed for two reasons: 

1.  He proved to be unworthy of the trust of the people.  That was his fault - not the Republicans.

2.  The Republican Party adopted a plan to stymie his Administration at every opportunity, even if it was harmful to America, and they knew it would be, because they wanted to extend the misery the Republican Policies had brought to the people of this Nation.  The Republican Party figured that would cause the people to turn against Obama and they were right.

So when I trash Obama,I do it for his failing.  And when I trash the Republican Party, I trash them for their sheer disregard for the well being of the American people.

Notice what is transpiring today concerning the Debt ceiling.  I believe that for Reagan the Debt ceiling was raised 17 times and how many times were the Republicans happy to raise it for Bush?

Do you realize that for the Bush years the U S Annual Debt doubled?  And is it not true that the real cause of the deficits now is because the 22 million unemployed DON’T PAY TAXES?

This crash was brought on by the Bush/Repub Adm and when he left office the country was losing jobs at the rate of 1/2 million per month.  Surely you remember that.  And don’t forget the Republican plan to stymie every effort to recover the economy, in other words, keep Obama from putting people to work.

Yes I blame Obama for not fighting for the people, but I blame the Republican Party even more for putting the American people thru all this when they could simply have said:

“Our policies have failed as all can see, but we will do everything we can to help get this Country back on track, so that we can get your forgiveness and regain your trust”.

They could have said that, then lived up to it.  But they chose the Low Road. They chose the Low Road for the same reason they trashed the American Dream during the Bush Administration.

They know they only represent the 1%.  And in 1973 A Republican Conservative Paul Weyrich founded ALEC to let the 1% write the laws.

The Republican Party is no longer worthy of the people’s trust and never will be.  They deserve to be put out of business.  I volunteer to help their demise.

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By gerard, July 17, 2011 at 10:23 am Link to this comment

Language is a wonderful thing!  Anybody can get drunk on it and it doesn’t cost a cent and leaves no hangover behind—except, perhaps, a mild case of
shock and awe.

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 9:56 am Link to this comment

You know I tried out a new browser and am finding the spell checker really suks, or maybe I just need to get used to it and it may work out down the road with like the dumbbing down being done in our nations schools.  Then,  I can comuicate with the newer privitezed scholled or those who can’t afford it uneducated!

So who the hell needs cursive or spelling, after all in the Republican rename of things semantics has been raped.

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

Embarrassed by the flattery ITW! Toast a Tequila to all posters here, even the ones who seem to not get it, (Politico for not agreeing with me).

Hey Max Shields, check out and let me know if Obama is a member of ALEC and if he calls the Koch Brothers for advice, I wonder if ALEC is part of the circle jerk they have in the Redwoods every summer?

The word entitlments could possibly be synionomis with a little know concpet called peoples or human rights, (we are all alienable?)  except in the minds of the Republicans, who obviously do not believe in some peoples or human rights.

Now that corprations are people too, this means ALEC is a peoples organization, representing corporatist peoples. Evidently they the corprations pay big bucks to belong to ALEC.  Now I as a people could not afford to belong to ALEC,... wonder what that means?  So ALEC reprsents speical people with deep pockets….  Maybe some real people should sign up and belong to ALEC, like the outsourced Steel Workers Union, or those slacker over paid teachers, even those loud Garbage men, and then there is the cranky lady down at the DMV?  Is ALEC closed to regualr people? I heard ALEC lets Politicans in for very low membership fees, this lets people corporations rub elbows and swap politicl ideas with politicians who may not be people, as some sort of song and dance routine.

I kinda like the fact, corprations as people too according to the Supreme Court get to rub elbows and party hardy with my politicticn. This means my guy in office is getting great ideas like making it harder for me to vote in order to stop all those voter frauds out their, which I may be among? So it turns out voter frauds is nyone who most likly does not agree with ALEC. ...  No ALEC is not a lobby group,... thank goodness for that.

So I am going to send a letter to Governor Walker in Wisconson on how great a job he is doing.  After all Walker has been letting ALEC and the Koch Brothrs not lobby him, but help him make all those hard decisions he has been making.  Walker like most Republicans is a great leader, but we must give some credit to ALEC for helping. 

Hell, the Repulcians keep talking about entitlements as if entitlements should be put in prision with terrorists, or made turned into crab food like Osama Belladonna.  The Repulcins seem to have even got the Democrats using the word entitlements like it is a bad thing. The other day I even heard the president say the word entilgiments like it was herpes or something.

I am not sure about most of you voter frauds out there but I paid into my Social Security since I was a teenager, I think I paid into Medicare too?  Now that I think on it, I may have paid into unemployment all this time also, which may be another one of those entitlements though I have not heard it called that yet.  Though I have never used unemployment problably becuase I always ended up leaving my jobs before being laid off or fired, though I was close a few times, especially on one job where I regularly caller my boss ... “butt head”.

So if entilements are sort of like peoples rights, how do I demand my right and collect my unemployment, just because I quit, damn I should have worked harder to get fired?

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By MaxShields, July 17, 2011 at 8:29 am Link to this comment

This thread has gone from Obama epitomized by his sucking up to Republican linguistics and right-of center policies. To those evil Republicans.

Obama is the best candidate the Republicans could have to put their Reagan/Clinton neo-liberal corporatism policies in place.

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By Shenonymous, July 17, 2011 at 8:18 am Link to this comment

The name “Republican” is completely counter to what the word
republican means. Since we are here debating the meaning of words,
it seems right that the name Republican Party be anathema (thank
you Cliff Carson). 

It is too often the case that we lose the meaning of a word because
it became fatigued with overuse. Its meaning becomes eroded or
threadbare as it becomes assimilated in the common language. The
original meanings of words are found in major lexicographic reservoirs,
i.e., etymological dictionaries. You might find the Dictionary Society of
North America site interesting:  Even
the Supreme Court is resorting to the use of five dictionaries to define
23 terms in 16 opinions (See Adam Liptak NTY Sidebar article, June 13,
Regarding the matter at hand for the words republic and republican.

A republic is:  (Leefeller is correct)
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens
entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or
indirectly by them. (the Online Etymology Dictionary gives the origin of
the word republic as, “c.1600, “state in which supreme power rests in
the people,” from Fr. république, from L. respublica (abl. republica), lit.
res publica “public interest, the state,” from res “affair, matter, thing” +
publica, fem. of publicus “public,” where public means, “from the mid-
15th c., “pertaining to the people,” from O.Fr. public (c.1300), from L.
publicus, altered (by influence of L. pubes “adult population, adult”)
from Old L. poplicus “pertaining to the people,” from populus “people.”
Meaning “open to all in the community” is from 1540s. An O.E. adjective
in this sense was folclic (folklic).  Also the noun meaning “the
community” from the 17th c.

2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth. (the Cambridge
Dictionary online defines commonwealth as a country or state that is
governed by its people or their elected representatives, and the Online
Etymology Dictionary gives commonwealth as a late 15th c. word
meaning “public welfare, general good,” from joining the words
common (adj.) + wealth; meaning “the state.”)

3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other
hereditary head of state.  (Here the definition gets murky and broad in
meaning and is what can lead to semantic trouble in our modern

Republican means:
1. of, pertaining to, or of the nature of a republic. (the Online
Etymology dictionary defines republican as an adjective coming into use
in “1712, as “belonging to a republic,” from republic + -an (see -ian). In
noun sense of “one who favors a republic,” it is recorded from 1690s;
and in sense of a member of a specific U.S. political party (the Anti-
Federalists) from 1782, though this was not the ancestor of the
modern U.S. Republican Party
(my italics), which dates from 1854.
Republicrat in U.S. political jargon usually meaning “moderate,” and
is witnessed from 1940.

2. fitting or appropriate for the citizen of a republic, as in “a very
republican notion.

In the world of linguistics this is how the words ought to be used
in correct connotation. Obviously, Cliff Carson, the words do not fit
the current appropriation by the political party that calls themselves
Republican and in no way do they “represent the people” although.
laughably, they say they do ten-thousand times a day. It is their devious
intention to confuse the gullible public into thinking their party is the
“right” party, and locationally correct they are on the right and
opposite-to-the-people side of the political spectrum. 

While it’s certain there are a few expletive names some would call
these usurpers of the people’s politics, we must find a more correct
descriptive term for the party of the corporate and wealthy 1%.  Maybe
the 1%ers?  What say any of you truthdippers?

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By RayLan, July 17, 2011 at 6:23 am Link to this comment

There can be a sense of entitlement without any right to it. That is not the case with Social Security - it’s that simple. There is nothing to debate, negotiate or haggle about except in the desperate minds of fevered profiteers.

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By ardee, July 17, 2011 at 6:19 am Link to this comment

ThomasG, is a bipartisan word for BORING!

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By Inherit The Wind, July 17, 2011 at 6:17 am Link to this comment

“Entitlements” as used by Republicans is the latest “code word” for “Niggers, Spics, and Po’ White Trash”.

Let’s call a spade a spade.  They won’t use the words “Niggers”, “Spics” and “White Trash” but that’s EXACTLY what they mean and that’s the view of their TeaBagger constituency.

There’s always been “code words” for these folks.  Once it was “Law and Order”, then “Crime and Welfare”, then “Welfare Queens”, then “Affirmative Action”.  Now it’s “Entitlements”, but it’s always the same:

Disparaging poor Blacks, Hispanics and even Whites who aren’t middle-class and cannot find a way to become middle-class.

De-humanize ‘em. That’s the fundamental rule of racism.  They aren’t people, they are “criminals”, “welfare cheats”, people on “entitlements”.

Goes all the way back to Nixon in 1968 and his Southern Strategy—bring the disaffected Segregationists into the GOP.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 17, 2011 at 6:09 am Link to this comment

So, one of my favorite pet peeves over the years has been those lobbyists who run the halls of Congress like rats at a New York Taco Bell. The only difference is the rats did not work at Taco Bell.


I guess you haven’t been to my local Taco Bell.  The rats are the only ones working!


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By Cliff Carson, July 17, 2011 at 5:33 am Link to this comment

Excellent Leefeller,DBM,Lafayette, and Shenonymous

This type discourse is solely needed to bring attention to the nefarious agenda of the Republican Party.  In fact, we the people, are getting hammered by both the immoral parties in power, but the Party that seems determined to get their way or destroy the Nation is the Republican Party.

The people of America can shun that Party out of existence simply by ignoring any candidate they run for anything.  Let the name Republican become anathema.

The one thing a Political Party can’t handle is being shunned.  That could also applied to Trolls wherever they are found.

This is resistance. 

And to address “Entitlements” , it appears that the 1% expects an entitlement of Elitism and they say they earned it.  How?  By stepping on you and me.

We need to become their worst enemy.  The one that can bring them down from their Self-Anointed Pedestal.  We can be the most powerful force if we choose to because we have the ultimate weapon - We can shun them out of existence.  One at a time. 

Boycott them at the polls, at the market, anywhere it will destroy them, choose one and demonstrate our power to the those we left alone, but leave the threat there “Change or risk being next”.

Let’s name it “People Power”.

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By Leefeller, July 17, 2011 at 3:24 am Link to this comment

Every time some moron says the USA is a Democracy, I have one of my conniptions, which usually entails a few choice words and a shot or two of Tequila.

For all those who do not know this, we live in a republic, which I always thought was to mean a representative government, hence why we supposdly vote for people to represent us and hopefully support our views in government.  I know this is a stretch, but this is the way I thought it is supposed to work.

So, one of my favorite pet peeves over the years has been those lobbyists who run the halls of Congress like rats at a New York Taco Bell. The only difference is the rats did not work at Taco Bell.

ALEC has been brought up by a few posters here, I never heard of ALEC until recently.  Well you should know ALEC is a non profit organization who is not a lobbyist organization, no ....they are an organization who helps politicians make hard decisions and help make it easy for people not to vote, it has been proven politicians do not like to make any decisions… never the less hard ones and voters are not much different. 

The fact ALEC has been around for 50 years may be important too some people,  just like how for some people it is important to know how long the Catholic Church has been around, actually another non profit organization who is not a lobbyist group.  only difference being ALEC has the Koch Brothers and the Church has the Pope.

I may like the fact ALEC is out there thinking for me and telling my politician just what I want him to do. This makes my job as a voter so much eaiser.  ALEC has a plan like getting rid of those awful unions which may not have been on my agenda,... but.. oh well!  Lowering child working ages so they can lower working wages, I could never have thought up that one myself.  What about those smarty pants teachers, firemen and policemen ranking in all kinds of dough and teachers having summers off, this seems too much for me. 

You know dumbing down the common folk is hard work, we need to get rid of unions and lower those teachers living off the hog wages, all that money spent on public schools so people can pick their own privet schools, like their own health insurance.  After all choice is what capitalism is all about, unless you are looking for an operating system on your computer.

Private everything seems so much more capitalistic, those damn public schools always seemed sort of socialist and actually even remind me of those entitlements we keep hearing about. 

Instead of voting for politicians, maybe we should just vote for ALEC, better yet let ALEC vote for us!

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By DBM, July 17, 2011 at 1:47 am Link to this comment

The word “Entitlement” is quite valid.

Corporate CEO’s make on average 400 times the earnings of the average worker (and then pay less tax by percentage).  They believe that each day of their working lives, due to their skills and acumen they generate more value than an average worker in a year.  Then they expect their investments of excess previous income to produce further income (at an even lower tax rate) without lifting a finger.

THAT is a sense of Entitlement!  If anyone could do something about these entitlements it would be a good thing!!

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By Lafayette, July 17, 2011 at 1:03 am Link to this comment


Entitlement is a perfectly fine word for Public Services that Americans pay for with their tax dollars and expect in return.

In fact, if America were not in the mess it is in because of the trillions of dollars spent in useless wars abroad, then entitlements could be expanded to advance the well-being of all its citizens.

Two, for starters, come to mind:
* A Public Option National Health-Care System, like Europeans have benefited for more than 30 years.
* Free tertiary education to all that wish to pursue it - also an “entitlement” to assure that Europeans have the necessary skills for today’s labor marketplace.

One cannot obtain “full employment” in thinking that industry and commerce alone will provide it. That objective is fools-gold.

However, we can expand the Services Industries to cover more personal services - not necessarily through a larger state or Federal employment. Any given service can be instituted and offered to the public by a state or federal agency that has contracted that service to a private, third-party. Who is them measured (by its clientèle) on how well it provided that service.

For instance, psychological guidance for children having problems advancing at school. Vocational training for certain professional services that are unavailable in certain areas that would meet a customer demand. An in-home personal-care service for the aged and/or disabled. Etc., etc., etc.

All these would require state or federal agency management oversight (of those private companies or individuals performing the service) but not necessarily create large state/government hirings. Private individuals would be paid decent salaries for doing the work competently.

Waiting for private enterprise to create jobs is not going to bring us back down to “full-employment”; which most economist put in the range of 3/4/5% unemployment figures.

But if the Replicants keep insisting on cutting budgets, then none of the above can happen to create jobs.

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By Shenonymous, July 16, 2011 at 11:54 pm Link to this comment

Get yourself informed:  To see what your government is doing in
Congress, check out the following resource
where the status of all bills before both House and Senate are
presented, their stage in the Legislative Process.  You can also see
what bills and amendments are being considered by House and
Senate Committees.  It is a site to explore.

Liberals, Progressives, and Democrats know it is a waste of time trying
to conciliate with the Republicans.  It is our responsibility to loudly
encourage Obama to speak out against them. Boyarsky says it right:
“The truth is that Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell don’t want to work with
Obama.”  Their attention is fixed on beating Obama in 2012 and take
control of the Senate and keep control of the House.  Obama might not
have turned out the way we (I) thought, but he is the only impediment
to the Republican relentless pounding against all corporate regulation,
against all social programs that support the people, and would
disintegrate America for the benefit of their own selves.

In his July 14, 2011, NYT Op-Ed article, Getting to Crazy, Krugman says
the Republicans have gone insane.  Looking at it that way gets them off
the hook.  Calling them crazy is obviously a partisan opinion and puts
the Republicans in the realm of not responsible for their actions.  It is
the dogma that whoever does not agree with me is crazy.  They are
lucidly single-minded on a united path and that is to fulfill their 10
Commandments on behalf of 1% of America and to ruin an America that
can work for 99% of the people.  Crazy is as emotionally potent a word
as Entitlement has become and getting the language right goes a long
way to setting the people straight so they can think straight.

Cuòwù de fangfa wòkè, you are obviously in awe.  I didn’t annoint
myself, it was you who first called me the Queen, but… rightfully so. 
My breeding is impeccable, but yours is… questionable.  You dishonor
the Tao and you also dishonor the noble Sioux.  What is also obvious is
that the tenacious Queen She can take anything you “dish” out. 

Dao na

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By SteveL, July 16, 2011 at 9:54 pm Link to this comment

Rat politicians want people to get used to paying taxes and never getting or expecting anything in return.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 16, 2011 at 9:31 pm Link to this comment

meanwhile, non-motional bilious feculance is back…Oh, did I say it wrong?
Who can tell the difference?

Maybe I can get TD to publish me!

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By weindeb, July 16, 2011 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment
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“Sticks and stones can break my bones”, but I think words can really kill you. I was pleased that Bill Boyarsky’s article clearly posited the special connotation that “entitlement” now bears, a charged negative one.  We see it, too, with the Republican “death tax” designation or, for that matter, with the Republican use of “Democrat” as an adjective. It’s all part of the same strategy propagandists use; namely, the manipulation of language for essentially sneak attacks. Goebbels was a master at this, and our Republicans seem pretty adept at it, too. I think that one of the most disturbing linguistic treacheries was that which replaced “reactionary” with “conservative”, thus substituting for the negatively charged term a positive one. Thus are people like a Tom DeLay or a Scott Walker or a Michele Bachmann designated as conservatives when they are in reality full-fledged reactionaries. There is, or there once was, a difference, but now the press, both spoken and written, liberal and otherwise, go along with this outrage. And speak of “liberal”, what Reagan’s word mongers did with it is yet another tale of Fifth Column linguistics.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 16, 2011 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment

No, Tao, you are wrong yet again.

You are the bird that curses the wings he flies on, the PC you tap-tap-tap on and the Internet you use with it.

“The wild and free peoples” and “this old savage” and the atavism you prescribe are an oxymoron to internet posting.


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By TAO Walker, July 16, 2011 at 8:42 pm Link to this comment

Well, at-least we now have it out of her own virtual ‘mouth’ that the intent of
the “self”-anointed “Queen” of ‘truthdig,’ with her sophomoronic anti-semantic
antics, is to silence somebody here who isn’t in sufficient awe of her high-
horseness….and who is not reluctant to let that show when apropos.  So “She”
reaches deep into her bag of virtual ‘stones’ and, her"self” being so obviously
without ‘sin,’ proceeds to heave them fecklessly into the no-‘place’ of
cyberspace….at a figment of her own fevered imagination.  What’s more, she
does this with a “self”-righteous attitude that suggests a sense of wannabe
royal “entitlement.”

“She” has, of course, always been free here to go haring-off after the almost
fifty-year-old “ALEC,” the relatively recent public ‘exposure’ of which (having
already served its perpetrators’ sub-rosa purposes) will no-doubt serve as well
now to distract, for awhile, her and those of her bent while some part of the
next phase of their “global” gulag project goes on unnoticed.  It is this
tendency, among its authors and forum participants alike, to obsess-over the
superficial and passe, that has this Old Indian thinking sometimes that this blog
might be more aptly called “truthscratch-the-surface.”

Your actual tormentors, tame Sisters and Brothers, the real ‘royalty,’ are well-
aware of this disabling proclivity (they’ve selectively bred you for five hundred
generations, after-all, to render it virtually CONgenital in your ‘kind’)....and
well-positioned to take full advantage of it.


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By ThomasG, July 16, 2011 at 7:19 pm Link to this comment

Why do you suppose that anyone would make a claim that a
three word definition of propaganda —binary emotional
—would be too complicated and hard to understand
by anyone other than the *S*E*L*E*C*T****F*E*W*?

Do you suppose that the runaway Kochroaches on this thread
don’t want you, the American Populace, to have a simple definition
of propaganda that enables you to do propaganda analysis on the
sophism, dialectic, and propaganda of the Lite-Right and Hard
Right of both the Democratic and Republican Parties, so that you
can be prevented from developing sufficient awareness and start
agitating for a NEW Political Order in the United States that will
give the American Populace a Seat at the Table in the making and
enforcing of Legislated Law and Order?

I know that you are out there watching, “PEOPLE,” both here in
the USA and abroad—Make yourselves known, you don’t have to
be afraid, because whatever you fear is more likely to happen if
you do not act in unity as an American Populace, than if you do.

There is strength in numbers and the American Populace is a
70% Majority Common Population—That is 210 Million People,
“PEOPLE,”——You do not have to be afraid.

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By ThomasG, July 16, 2011 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” for “Corporate

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” for “Populace
Socialism” cyclically recapitalizing failed private capital as was the
case as a result of the September 18, 2008 collapse of the U.S.

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” for “Populace
Socialism” doling out cash as “Corporate Welfare” to
Private Corporations that pay little or no taxes.

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” for “Populace
Socialism” maintaining the National Infrastructure for use by
Private Corporations without Private Corporations paying for the
cost of origin and maintenance.

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” used to deny benefit
of Populace Resources to the American Populace to provide
benefit to the American Populace for human needs, such as food,
shelter, clothing, and education.

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” for life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness with freedom and justice of Corporate
Welfare for wealthy Republicans.

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” for survival of the
fittest for the American Populace; it would be a moral hazard
according to Republican Doctrine for any part of the American
Populace to get welfare like worthy wealthy Republicans, the
special, the “se*le*ct f*ew”.

“Entitlement Is a Republican Word” because the American
Populace are not like “us”, the Republicans, the “se*le*ct
, after all, they, the American Populace, can be bought
with nothing more than a meal and the “se*le*ct f*ew”,
we, the Republicans, have capital that they, the American
Populace, cyclically recapitalize for “us” and they are too
dumb to even know the difference.

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By Shenonymous, July 16, 2011 at 5:59 pm Link to this comment

It only matters in your own hell.  There’s more wind in Cuòwù de
fangfa wòkè than an old ventilator, uh…make that hot air out of
the old wannabe Sioux windbag who can’t even choose which tribe,
D/L/Nakota, to appropriate.  And you continue to defile the Tao
which shows you to be a flimflam CONman. The only one obsessing
is you, Cuòwù de fangfa wòkè, you, the Republican shill. That is the
revelation that really galls you.  You thought you were safe behind
that banal disguise.  And yes, you really are utterly worthless to the
common population.  The only one threatened is obviously you who
has been now correctly identified.  You can no longer fool anyone.
Perhaps your occasional intrusions will become non-existent visitations. 
Who knows? that they would not be missed if they were that occasional
anyway.  Trying to link up two who independently sees through your
melodramatic claptrap is only another of your attempts to distract
attention away from your now exposed covert pretensions. You have
been enough of a distraction and a return to dig into ALEC is what’s
printed on my ticket so rant until your craving is satisfied.

Dao na
says Dragon Queen She

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By TAO Walker, July 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

Typical here, of both “The (windy) One” and “Queen She,” to offer-up wordy
“self”-portraits….and then “name” the poor thing after somebody ‘else.’  What is
this obsession they exhibit, with the actually rather ordinary observations
offered here by a Person neither actually knows at-all? 

Would they go to such absurdly “self”-CONgratulatory lengths trying to
discredit something as utterly worthless as they claim those observations to be,
if there weren’t something in them they’re afraid to acknowledge?  Is it because
they feel threatened somehow when the occasional participant here finds
something worthwhile in them?

Who knows…..and what in Hell does it matter anyway?


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By Inherit The Wind, July 16, 2011 at 2:24 pm Link to this comment

Tao Walker,

You are nothing but an angry, mean old man pretending to be something you are not.
You are insulting, arrogant, condescending, and not even honest enough to admit it.
You are also the most self-centered and egotistical person here, despite your claims to subsume “self”

BULLSHIT, Tao, BULLSHIT!  You are nothing if not TOTALLY self-involved, nothing if not egotistical.

Pretending to be this wise old sage of native ways “This Old Savage” “The Ancients taught us…”

All crap as you sit at your PC and surf the net. 

You are like a bird who curses his wings even as he flies about on them.

That’s why I always say,
From you
It’s more….

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By Shenonymous, July 16, 2011 at 2:24 pm Link to this comment

Unlike you, Cuòwù de f?ngf? wòkè, as you wiggle in your
artificiality trying to regain composure, I make no effort to
come out looking any different.  You are a laugh riot.
M’thinks you are a Republican shill and now that I have exposed
you, one need only to reflect on all of your posts to begin to see
the pattern!  And it’s Queen’s horses, so you got that wrong,
Wrong Way Walker, as well. 

Dao an

Cliff Carson, thank you for filling in the history of ALEC.  I agree
with you, but getting rid of the Republican Party would be like trying
to get rid of a thousand warts.  There needs to be a starting place.  It
might be easier to work on the Democratic Party as there are already
progressives working on it.  Try Cenk Uygur and Ed Schultz, actually
and Rachel Maddow.  Those three have websites and read their email,
so they say.  I don’t twitter or facebook, but I’d be willing to participate
in a write-in campaign as whitedog is suggesting.  Course I sign nearly
all the progressive petitions that come to my personal email address
that usually amounts to about 5 or 6 a day!  I don’t get any feedback
data if the petitions ever work!  But what the hell?  There are those
BlueDogs, and I’ve often said quasiDemocrats who often side with
Republicans (i.e., Lieberman, et al), need to be replaced at the local
level.  So we need somehow to find out how to get them dumped. 
Countercampaign against them in their districts, states.  Whatever it

Draft the letter whitedog, and I’ll sign it!

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By TAO Walker, July 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

As “whitedog” may already know, a not very complimentary term used by D-/L-
/Nakotah People, for the “Americans” invading their Country, was (and still is)
‘wasichu’....meaning ‘stealer-of-all-the-best (the fattest)-meat.’  The People
arrived at this characterization just by observing the habitual behavior of their
swarming persecutors.

Nothing about those greedy one’s essential nature seems to’ve changed, either,
just because the once-“special” allamericanpeople their-own-collective-“self” are
now become the “indians”.... the designated hittees in the U.S.S.A CONcentration
camp part of the “global” gulag regime.


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By whitedog, July 16, 2011 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment

This is so sad. Its time to launch a letter writing campaign to “make” this president stop trying to look good to the Republicans and centrists, I guess, and stop demoralizing the left and all who depended on him to protect the programs his party established to protect the people. But don’t Republicans get Social Security too? Don’t their parents and friends need Social Security too? And Medicare? What about the billions we give Israel, and the militray budget? What about reestablishing the capital gains tax? I would rather eat sand than see another Republican installed, but this president is truly demoralizing those who elected him.

It was obvious to me that his meteoric rise to the Whitehouse indicated mad deals, but he is really giving himself away here.

We need to treat him in the same way we treated Bush, protest protest protest, write write write, make him do what he needs to do to save our country from those who would let all of those of us who need social programs die, rather than cut the fat from that which obviously has too much.

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By Cliff Carson, July 16, 2011 at 11:59 am Link to this comment


Thank you for your efforts in looking up information on ALEC.

ALEC was founded in 1973 by Conservative Activist Paul Weyrich.  So it has been usurping the rights of common man for 41 years.  In 1999 or maybe 2000 they bragged that they had been able to put over 450 Laws into the books that was “Ghosted” by ALEC.

This is a Republican Organization (although there are some Democrats in it), which just amplifies that the Two Headed Washington Monster is out to get the common man until there is not one drop of blood left to squeeze out of his tired body.

We really need to get rid of the Republican Party and install an Independent Coalition Party in its place.

Once we do that we will only have the Democrat Party left to dispatch.  Battling them one at a time will be easier than two at a time.

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By TAO Walker, July 16, 2011 at 11:29 am Link to this comment

What is seen subsequently by its utterer to be in need of further “justification,”
usually doesn’t come-out looking any-the-less bereft of its original lack, even
when the “self”-serving and “self”-referential rationale is delivered by a “self”-
styled defender-of- the-“gullible,” riding-high on “all the king’s horses.”  Anyway,
the “individual” in-question has already revealed here an amply demonstrated
proclivity to over-react rather extremely whenever her own platitudinous
posturings are shown-up for the semantically empty (but none-the-less
poisonous) CONtainers they so often are.

Besides, the tao that can be “breach(ed),” or preached-about, is not The Tao.


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By Shenonymous, July 16, 2011 at 11:02 am Link to this comment

It sure was the pretentious would-be Old Savage who attacked
the one who came up with the machete metaphor, that is not in
any way race-based, unless taking aim at what the Republican
agenda would do to ordinary people is “race-based.”  That could
only mean you, allegedly “old” one, who apparently desires to take
on the feeble glamorous persona of savage in a modern world, as
if it is a virtue, are a Republican who himself feels the sting of the
truth.  Only you are making “this” about “us,” in your unsolicited
attack on me.  There is no need to bring in the millions of straw others
who also were born under the sign of the Dragon as they are irrelevant
and you only try to distract the culpability of your breach of the Tao. 

Your defensive response, Tao belies your artificial Taoism. You are a
user not a practitioner.  I am most willing to acknowledge your
offensive insults and to ride the high horse of justification.  I actually
have a herd of such high horses and one is always available when I feel
the need to ride one.  Maybe you should eat the dish you serve and
refrain from taking advantage of those whose innocent gullibility allows
a charlatan such as yourself to preach homiletics.

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By TAO Walker, July 16, 2011 at 10:35 am Link to this comment

“Myronh” asks a pertinent question.  His harking-back to simpler, maybe-a-bit
healthier, more human-scaled, less hectic circumstances probably evokes
similar sentiments in many here.  It’s likely true, too, that there were more of
the vestiges of genuine ORGANic Human Community still evident in what’s
become labelled (and gets marketed shamelessly) as “small town America,” then
are generally perceptible in their “big-box”-ed remnants today.

Even then, though, the domesticated people’s precious attention was focussed
almost exclusively on only “the (‘civilized’) human element” in ‘the
picture’....with ‘the rest’ of us (including us surviving Free Wild Peoples)
relegated to the inferior status of ‘obstacles’ to be gotten out of the way of
“progress,” or “resources” to be exploited ruthlessly in its monomaniacal
pursuit.  Meanwhile, of course, the immune system Function of Humanity, as
such, goes insufficiently attended-to and inadequately fulfilled….with all the
degenerative effects so CONstantly remarked-upon here….and many much
more serious ones still largely imperceptible to the “self”-sickened
CONstituents of the virtual subspecies homo domesticus.

No small part of getting-over their “self” involves getting past their
overweening PRIDE! in all that manmade “furniture,” and back firmly onto the
Natural Biological Foundation, The Living Ground of the Song ‘n’ Dance of Life


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By TAO Walker, July 16, 2011 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

It sure wasn’t this Old Savage who came-up with the ‘race’-/class-biased
“machete” metaphor.  The apparently deeply offended party here who did,
however, lives in her own ‘glass house,’ having often resorted to ‘cutting-edge’
remarks directed at those she deems deserving of her pedagogical
CONdescension.  Maybe “She” shouldn’t dish-out what she is unwilling to ‘take.’

Anyhow, none of this is “all about” either of us….despite the minor outbreak of
the retro-viral I/ME/MY/MINE syndrome evident in her “hurt”-feelings come-
back to what was really a pretty gentle chiding of her carelessness-of and
insensitivity-to the feelings of us colorful ‘others’.....many millions of whom
were also “born under the sign of the Dragon”.... and most of them much too
modest to claim ever to’ve “known the (unknowable) Tao.” 


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By Archie1954, July 16, 2011 at 9:30 am Link to this comment
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So the Republicans call healthcare and social security, “entitlements” and don’t like them. What then do they call military protection of American energy companies’ foreign oilfields? What do they call the lobbying done by the State Department on behalf of American companies throughout the world? If all Americans, who by the way pay for such “entitlements” through their taxes annually, should have to forgoe such social rights then why shouldn’t the corporations have to also? Republicans are such hypocrites!

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By Shenonymous, July 16, 2011 at 8:17 am Link to this comment

(t——ow walker) in an attempt to be hurtful, you would be more
respectful to your pseudonym and others (me), if you weren’t so
arrogant to not use my identity name Shenonymous.  You can use
words as you wish and learn to understand them when someone
else uses them as metaphorically as you do.  You do not represent
your namesake Tao befittingly.  It is picayune of you.

Being born under the sign of the Dragon, I’ve known the Tao my
whole life, and it is utter self-absorption that makes one like you
whose has taken the name Tao think and say that others do not know
the Way.  Perhaps a reminder is required.  Inasmuch as authentic Tao
would avoid doing anything unnatural that does not occur
spontaneously in nature.  Using a computer is an unnatural action yet
you choose the unnatural way of the double edge sword of technology
that weakens your natural abilities. Further taking umbrage that anyone
would challenge your pronouncements, most likely accounts for even
the least amount of imbalance you have about what is going on in
current society. A Taoist studies Nature, not pseudo-wisdom, he/she
learns and practices ways to work with Nature to obtain optimal benefit
to him/herself, his/her community, animals and natural environment,
and natural processes without harming anyone of these participants or
disturbing the natural equilibrium state. Essentially the Tao, allows for
no pretentions, is the natural way things operate without any effort,
called the Wu Wei principle.  M’thinks you are spending Way too much
energy scornfully preaching to, criticizing, and belittling others.  They
have to and will find their own Way. 

Dao an

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By Shenonymous, July 16, 2011 at 8:13 am Link to this comment

A Rolling Stone article referenced on another blogsite, by Matt Taibbi, writing on Politics
and the Economy tells precisely why it is my thesis that speaking
in generalities is merely pompous pontifications.  It is one thing
to describe the reality, and that is truly needed to bring the attention
to alert status of problems that exist under the discriminating eye of
the public, but another to get real and into the thick of life as middle
income or lesser in America.

Excerpt:  “Sirota’s list highlights another bizarre aspect of the $500k
story. During the debate over the proposed cap, one of the things we
started to hear from the Antoinette class was a general sense of wonder
at the notion that anyone considered them rich. It turns out that a great
many of the people who make big six-figure incomes consider
themselves middle class. A University of Chicago professor arguing
against the repeal of the Bush tax cuts made waves by saying he was
“just getting by” with his $250,000 income, while ABC’s Charlie Gibson
and CNN reporter Kiran Chetry in recent years suggested that $200-
$250,000 is middle class (Chetry’s exact quote was that “in some parts
of the country,” $250K “is middle class”).

All of this is a conspicuous testament to the amazing (and rapidly
expanding) cultural divide that exists in this country, where the poor
and the rich seldom cross paths at all, and the rich, in particular, simply
have no concept what being broke and poor really means. It is true that
if you make $300,000 in America, you won’t feel like you’re so very rich
once you get finished paying your taxes, your mortgage, your medical
bills and so on….”  The entire article is worth the time to read and

Especially bitter sharp and completely relevant to this forum’s article of
Entitlement and the usurpation is the commandeering of the common
language by the Republicans to sell their holey holy idea merchandise. 
Quote:  “That the Tea Party and their Republican allies in congress have
so successfully made government workers with their New Deal benefits
out to be the kulak class of modern America says a lot about the
unique brand of two-way class blindness we have in this country. It’s
not just that the rich don’t know the poor exist, and genuinely think a
half a million a year is “not a lot of money,” as one “compensation
consultant” told the New York Times after the crash.”

Those of us who can see into this noxious waste and intuits the
ramifications needs to learn how to sentimentalize the language and
convincingly publicize the causes for who America really belongs to,
that would be the common population.

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By Myronh, July 16, 2011 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

Looking back 60-years reveals thousands of small towns in the US that basically duplicated the message Tao Walker continues to convey. I grew up on a small 80-acre farm in Wisconsin. We lived 7-miles from a small village of 1000 residents. Within that village everything, except a major hospital, was available for all our needs: grocery stores; hardware stores; bank; car dealership; farm implement dealership, clothing stores; gas stations; repair shops; furniture store and mortuary; churches; 2-doctor clinic; 2-dentists; law-office; post-office; telephone office; electric-power company office; creamery processing milk into cheese and butter; lumber yard; cafe’s; high-school and elementary-school; blacksmith/welding shop; and a cabinet shop. If we couldn’t find what we wanted or needed we could drive a few miles farther to the next small town that likely had just what we needed. The social atmosphere being a duplicate of every other small town.

It is rather amazing to look back and realize that everyone in that town made a living. A few slightly better than the poorest. The wealthiest lived in a slightly bigger-nicer home and drove a newer car. Other than that they all ate at the same cafes; bought their necessities from the same stores and attended the same churches. No wierd mega-churches, no Wal-Mart, and no Home Depot to destroy the livelihood of the small community.

Tao, is this what you envision?

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By TAO Walker, July 16, 2011 at 7:51 am Link to this comment

The ‘machete’ is, of course, an instrument sometimes used as a weapon, but
much more often as a tool to cut cane and clear-away undergrowth.  It is
mostly laboring people who use machetes.  So is somebody suggesting
(“s/henonymously”) below that this “ALEC” CONstruct should be equated
somehow with the means by which honest workers get a mostly subsistence
‘living’?  Just what sort of “fear-the-colorful-‘other’ nonsense is being
surreptitiously implied here?

“ALEC” is nothing new, anyhow.  The wannabe ruling class has been resorting to
such subterfuges since “Day One.”  It’s “self”-selected members are likely pretty
CONfident that, after some initial ‘alarm’ and its accompanying faux ‘outrage’
(such as we’re seeing here), their subjects will lapse back into their carefully
CONtrived soporific (running-scared-in-their-sleep) stupor, and “business-
as-usual” will go on….as usual.

As the Ancients knew (and tried to pass-on to All of US) people without any
organic sense of direction, who’ve lost The Tao of their Humanity, are at-best
“useless.”  It’s turning-out they’re never really up-to even that pitiful standard,
either, though, and are much more often than not actually dangerous….to each
other and Mother Earth’s Whole Living Arrangement.

So all the domesticated rubes half-living in the ‘vanity-fair’ should really fear is
“losing-face” to Indios wielding machetes?


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By GW=MCHammered, July 16, 2011 at 6:07 am Link to this comment
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“But if America reduced its healthcare costs to the same percentage of GDP as Canada, France, Germany, Holland or the UK, deficits would disappear and would even turn into surpluses.”

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By Shenonymous, July 16, 2011 at 5:54 am Link to this comment

The problem of ALEC is acute.  It ought to frighten the crap out
you.  Most of the rest of us are at the mercy of penury since ALEC
represents unlimited money to do their bidding.

But having one’s bowel emptied out due to fear is no reason not to
get off the pot and do something.  What ALEC is up to is like having
machetes slice you ten times across the face.  And you had better
think of what you can do to keep them from even one whack.

Curious to see what the “media” has reported on this overwhelmingly
influencial group, I searched the ‘Net and found the following;

A earlier article at DailyKos:
May 1, 2011, Democracy Stands Up to ALEC and the theft of America -
Kochroaches in Cincy! by Bob Sloan (tinyurl
web address replaces address too long to post on TD)

Website search at the NYT of American Legislative Exchange Council
ALEC, no reporting article is found.  Except on March 27, 2011, NYT
op-ed columnist, Paul Krugman wrote very interesting American
Thought Police -

If a search is made at KPFK 90.7 FM website, of American Legislative
Exchange Council, no article at all is found.

A search at Politico of American Legislative Exchange Council will yield
no article.

The Wikipedia entry is informative, especially the criticism section.  Lots
of references and footnotes

Conservatives and the Right - Smart ALEC: Dragging the Secretive
Conservative Organization Out of the Shadows, The Smirking Chimp
Bill Berkowitz - March 31, 2011.  Yes, this is a progressive blogsite,
stories seem to be valid news criticisms.

The LA Times published two articles, consecutive days July 13, 2011
State legislative bills raise conservative group’s profile by Tom
Hamburger and Neela Banerjee, Washington Bureau,

and July 14, 2011 Common Cause accuses conservative group of
lobbying, seeks IRS probe by Neela Banerjee,

It can only help to be as informed as possible if you are going to do
anything about who is controlling your life.

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By David J. Cyr, July 16, 2011 at 5:30 am Link to this comment

Every vote for any of the corporate party’s Republicans or Democrats is a mindless vote for corporate entitlements to ruthlessly exploit people and our planet’s resources, while the human habitable climate changes.

Conservatives and liberals regularly reliably join in solidarity together, to provide popular vote mandates for corporate person entitlements to eliminate the natural persons’ entitlements.

The “Principles” of Liberal Voters

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By John Best asks, "What IS Progress"?, July 16, 2011 at 4:51 am Link to this comment

Clean water and air are an ‘entitlement’, so people don’t deserve ‘entitlements’, right?

MaxShields, July 15 at 4:06 pm—They’re also destroying aquifers in order to corner the market for fresh water In certain geographies it is easy to poison the aquifers.—W. Va by mountaintop removal, PA and NY from the Marcelius shale ponzi investment scheme.  IT hasn;t made money yet (and won’t from gas), but after the frack-frack-frack investors have been bilked, there remains a market for fresh water.  Slick, huh?

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By tedmurphy41, July 16, 2011 at 2:18 am Link to this comment

If what is being stated is true, then it is incumbent on President Obama to speak out, exposing these people who are, supposedly, elected to represent the interests of the American people. They should not be allowed to get away with the petty intolerant differences between them and the President to the detriment of the United States of America, which appears to be the case here.

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By Lafayette, July 16, 2011 at 1:38 am Link to this comment


MA: Too many Right Light Democrats on the Left—or what?

Good question. The Republicans are monolithic, so it is very easy to prepare and have them sing off the same hymn sheet.

In fact, ALEC is just a hymn sheet of the “approved dogma”. Worse, it is a Battle Plan for containing the legislative attempts of Obama’s attempts at being progressive, for instance the Public Health Option. The Dems would be far more effective were they as organized as is ALEC.

More about ALEC here in The Nation.

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By TAO Walker, July 15, 2011 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment

Michael Cavlan is not mistaken in his perception that the “corporate entity” is a
very useful instrument for those “dominance”-paradigm-perverted idiots hell-
bent on rendering the Living Body of our Mother Earth, including ALL of us (and
them, too), down into the various kinds of degenerate “energy” upon which the
retro-viral “SELF” they idolize subsists.  He is surely off-the-mark, however,
when he implies that this Old Man is subject to the dictates of any such “SELF,”
or its mini-I/ME/MY/MINE offshoot.  It is a matter of Natural Biological Fact,
rather, that the characteristic which most distinguishes surviving Free Wild
Natural Persons and Peoples from our domesticated Sisters and Brothers is the
natural immunity we’ve acquired (the hard way) and enjoy, from the miseries of
“SELF”-possession and “self”-CONtrol so plaguing them, here in these latter

The “SELF does,” of course, just as Michael Cavlan asserts, expend
CONsiderable “energy,” through the operations of its “corporate” simulacra, on
insuring that its Human captives “do nothing” that would be at-all effective in
ending its wannabe parasitic depredations, which present here as that complex
of debilitating symptoms comprising the “civilization” disease.  It’s now billions
of little spin-off “selfs” are the devices by which it subdues infected “individual”
Humans, and CONs them into serving its own entirely “SELF”-referential ends.

This surviving unreCONstructed Savage, on-the-other-hand, has been saying
for generations that we Human Beings need (and in-fact only can) DO, all
together, what we altogether ARE….a vital component in the immune system of
our Mother Earth.  Our “self”-sickened Human Relations, however, have lost The
Way, The Tao, of their Humanity, and so thrash-about vainly in their feckless
pursuit of the Harpy of “happiness.”

The Ancients also learned the-hard-way that The Way to get-over the sickness
brought here by the “SELF” is NOT to got-to-war with it, which only makes it
more virulent.  The Way for “self”-infected Natural Persons to get-over that
CONdition is NOT to cater to its insatiable demands….perhaps hoping it will
finally say, like some “spoiled” child, ” I have enough already!”  That just ain’t
gonna happen. 

To get-over what ails them, the “individual”-ized CONstitutentys of the virtual
subspecies homo domesticus need The Medicine specific to its cure….The
Living Virtue of Organic Functional Integrity.  To get well they need to stop
“self”-indulging in the “self”-referential behaviors and “self”-satisfying beliefs
that are pushing them, hard-and-fast, toward extinction.  They need to come
together where they’re living and breathing right now, as Natural Persons
ORGANized in Genuine Human Communities, to address, with their undivided
precious attention and their unCONditional spontaneous affection, the Actual
Living Needs of our Mother Earth and All Our Relations and one another.

Only those who haven’t tried it could think that’s “doing nothing”....although it
is for us Free Wild Natural Human Beings, (Ikche Wichapi, in the language of the
D-/L-/Nakotah People)  the very essence of effortless “non-doing.”


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By MarthaA, July 15, 2011 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment

ALEC’s Republican “Corporate donors retain veto power over the
LANGUAGE, which is developed by the secretive [Republican
Conservative] task forces.”

How does secretive Republican Corporate donors retain veto power
over the LANGUAGE, does the Democrats just let them?  What’s with
that? Too many Right Light Democrats on the Left—or what?

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By CJ, July 15, 2011 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment

(Two of the worst sociopaths pictured above, though they’re hardly alone in

Just listening to John King talk of “ideological differences” between the two
political parties. It gets no more absurd. Big media is so lost as to be beyond
rescue. Abandonment is the only option remaining and yet citizens listen to
such nonsense, not least because alternatives are few if at all. And all of it
interrupted every few minutes or every quarter page by an ad pushing you to
buy this, that or the other bit of junk. (There’s Huckabee, the huckster, with his
ads pushing citizens to assist him in their own destruction, which is in his own
interest, hardly in theirs or ours.)

Media’s making a killing doing it’s part to whip up “controversy” where there
was none before and where there still is none. Media too employs the term,
“entitlement,” as do Democrats. Boyarsky’s characterization is accurate:
“entitlement” implies charity in effect, or rather welfare. What if Social Security
really were welfare? So what and why not? There’s not enough to go around?

There’s not much more that can be said since elites have now taken a step over
the precipice near which they were only standing heretofore. Free-fall is next,
and we’re the ones going down, not them—according to the decisions they
make on their behalf and not on ours.

The contempt of pols for voters is now in full view. The President is talking of
his willingness to make “tough decisions.” For whom? Since how “tough” is it to
decide (for others) when your decision will not impact you in the slightest? The
President’s retirement will be very, very cushy, as will that of the pols and
business and other celebrity elites surrounding him and his or not so much
surrounding him and his insofar as any belongs to the other merely
“ideologically different” political party.

So much for “tough,” and thanks for the contempt, Mr. President and all your
friends in positions of power in and out of intentionally busted government that
carries on like a two-year-old on a bad day, complete with wildest imaginings
when not sheer hysteria not even a two-year-old has ever been seen to

I suppose that had I been born a peasant in 12th Century Europe I’d not have
had very much idea how to communicate with elites of the time. I might just as
well have been that for anything I might have to say or not so much to say to
them at this historical moment.

I now regard politicians and their business partners in crime, along with big
media personalities and the like, as so many sociopaths entirely beyond so
much as a chance of rehab, actually worse than their 12th Century counterparts
whom at least had the selfish excuse of actually extent scarcity that exists
nowhere in our time of the 21st Century outside willfully tiny, greedy minds.

The discussion concerning the debt ceiling is nothing less than lunatic.

I take it back—at little bit. I’m not entirely sure the President doesn’t know the
discussion is lunatic, particularly among the more fascist element on the political right (which media regards as merely “ideologically different,” we must understand), while there’s
absolutely nothing he can do or say about it in a nation gone loony. Thus his show of
short temper and very possibly panic. Which doesn’t excuse talking of making
“tough decisions.” To lay claim to that, never mind actually making an elitist
destructive one, is morally reprehensible.

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By greydogg, July 15, 2011 at 5:04 pm Link to this comment
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We are entitled to Social Security and Medicare because we pay for it. That’s
why they are entitlements. But Republicans mangle and torture the definition of
the word in order to break the social contract while blaming the victim. It’s their

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By gerard, July 15, 2011 at 4:54 pm Link to this comment

Somebody said if you don’t remember, know, understand history. you are condemned to repeat it.
Some of the problem with the word “entitlement” involves history, for sure.

In the Middle Ages, nobody but royalty and church officials were “entitled” to anything.  The elites all had “titles”—lord, prince, earl, magistrate, cardinal, Father, Sir, etc—which “entitled” them to vastly more worldly goods than peasants, farmers, slaves, knaves, merchants, thieves etc. Women and children were “thems” and “its.”

The idea of “citizen” (Mister, Master etc.) was limited at first, and only extended much later to signify individual males, and later, females, as individuals, not groups or classes, but persons “entitled” to be “members” of a governmental jurisdiction with certai guaranteed political rights.

The idea of “entitling” everyone within a certain governmental jurisdiction with “inalienable rights” was a revolutionary concept essential to democratization, and a long-time in coming.

What is occurring now is an effort of reactionaries to remove the powerful “inalienable” concept that surrounds the word “entitlement.”  Why?  Because “inalienable” means you can’t take it away.(Nobody is an alien to basic human decency—a very radical concept basic to our Constitution, by the way.) (Much of the world is still struggling to attain that concept and get it institutionalized. It has cost courage, and very often (sad to say), blood.

Forget this at your peril!  Disregard it, and a return to the Dark Ages is inevitable.

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By MaxShields, July 15, 2011 at 4:06 pm Link to this comment

Debt Ceiling increase = TARP. Not saying “bad” things won’t happen but that’s because we have a collapsing economy that is built on speculation with energy becoming a commodity at the pinnacle of major decline.

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By MaxShields, July 15, 2011 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

Here’s the bi-partisan truth: Both Republican leadership and the Obama administration are on the same page. They’re in big time with corporate power who bankrolls their elections.

The Tea Party is a problem they want to eliminate the whole “big government” notion and eliminate the debt - obviously this is crazy and would collapse a mess of an economy.

The Repub/Obama administration want to save mostly the big guys and are ready to slash spending, mostly on social programs, but they need the debt ceiling to make sure the corporate/finance economy is “healthy”...not you and me.

So the tangled web we weave is smoke and mirrors on one level, phony partisanship on another. All the while the end game will be - increase the debt ceiling (that’s a done deal) and slash social programs as far as possible. Meanwhile massive tax cuts for the wealthiest stay put, and defense spending remains at an all time high with it clearly off the table.

Now that’s the non-partisan truth. The rest is just a game at our expense.

The fix has been in for decades…read the news YOU and I lose!!!

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By dailyplanet, July 15, 2011 at 3:08 pm Link to this comment
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America is becoming a feudal society and Obama is giving the Lords and
Masters the keys to the kingdom.

I was never a big Obama enthusiast like many people were.  But even I couldn’t
have imagined that not only was he not what he led Democrats to believe he
was…he was everything we’d hoped never to see…someone collaborating with
political enemy forces.

The question is: is Obama too weak to take a stand…or more correctly…does
his real agenda and priorities conform with the right-wing Republicans?

He’s certainly not championing the common good of this country. As a
President, Obama is a disaster.

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By grampy, July 15, 2011 at 2:31 pm Link to this comment
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When are we going to realize its the money that corporations pay in matching funds in social security that they are trying to eliminate just figure it out yourselves how much they would pocket if S.S were done in!!

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By wkenddad, July 15, 2011 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment
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No it’s a Democratic word.
Republicans call them hand outs.
Although Social Security is an entitlement in that you pay into the system so you are entitled to recieve from the system.
Democrats believe that any monetary reward to the “underserved” is an entitlement. They use this term to convince those that they have made dependant upon them to believe that they are entitled to this reward.
Nothing in the constitution or bill of rights provides for free healthcare, food, clothing, etc…. The founding fathers never intended this to be the Governments role.
This type of charity was given by the individual or by religous organizations to those that needed it while they got back on their feet. It was never intended to support the indiviual for their entire lives!

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By Shenonymous, July 15, 2011 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

The Democrats are obviously tongue-tied and don’t know how
to “use” the language. The Republicans must be reading The Meme
Machine. By all means, progressives must take over the function
of what the Democrats should be doing. 

A catchy name for the neoLibs needs to be invented that will be
easily retained in the minds of the public. This is an intentional
memetic exercise.  We need some very creative people on this
forum to contribute to impede any Conservative effort to intervene
and obstruct the effort. 

This forum is about the word ‘entitlement,’ and technically in social
politics these are benefits guaranteed access by enacted legislation.
Entitlements are laws based on the concept of “rights” which are
based in concepts of social equality. A “right,” then, is also an
entitlement associated with a moral principle provided within a legal
framework of a society.  Concurrent to the term social equality is the
conception of economic equality which further intends equal life
opportunity regardless of identity, race, ethnicity, religiosity, that
provides all citizens with a basic minimum of income, goods, and
services as well as increase of funds and commitment to programs for
redistribution that would provide the basic health care for the elderly
and others unable to earn a living or not enough to be considered
above the poverty threshold.  Poverty is usually defined as the state of
one who lacks a usual or socially acceptable amount of money or
material possessions . Absolute poverty or destitution refers to being
unable to afford basic human needs, which commonly includes clean
and fresh water, nutrition, health care, education, clothing and shelter
and approximately 43.6 million (14.3%) Americans were living in
absolute poverty in 2009 up 1% from the previous year.  According to
the US Census Bureau, poverty in the United States is cyclical in nature
with roughly 13 to 17% of Americans living below the federal poverty
line at any given point in time, and roughly 40% falling below the
poverty line at some point within a 10-year time span.  That is 40%!

The bastardization of the word entitlement by the Republicans is
calculated to diminish the most basic, the most elementary morality of
providing the benefits of each socially providing program that goes to
secure life supporting assistance.  Hence the term Social “Security”

There are a few ways to counteract the vicious Republican threat to
underprivileged American’s most beneficial social programs.  It has to
do with behavior and language and the kinds of tactics that are used
that undermine confidence in those safety net programs. Do not use
simple rhetoric, but stating the facts as suggested is one good way, but
they have to be repeated and repeated in the public’s face so that they
become associated with what are the facts. Framing is what the
Republicans are doing. So the trick is to re-frame to enhance the liberal
agenda. Do not be discouraged by any doomsayers. It is planned to
make you feel as if nothing can be done, to just sit there and take it. 
Use any media possible to show the public what they are “entitled” to
and why they are entitled to it. Next, a specific list of what is being
done by the Republicans has to be generated.  Then each Republican
contrivance to decimate the liberal programs must be invalidated,
shown to be lies, relentlessly loudly accuse them publicly of their own
wrongdoing.  It is propaganda as MarthaA well articulated.  Now that it
is well described, action is the next step.  Slogans that stick in the
mind, some call them memes, that will be passed around and repeated
in the public domain so that the language becomes infected with them
is another tactic.  Surely you cannot sit on your duff and do nothing
except parrot what everyone else is parroting?  The single-minded
objective is to affect the politicians and the ballot box.

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By norman harman, July 15, 2011 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment
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“What’s shocking is that Obama is in the brake-slammer’s camp.”

Shocking?!?!? The fact that Obama is once again siding with his Republican
detractors isn’t “shocking,” if he got up off his knees and quit kissing their
tight, old asses, now that would, indeed, be shocking!

Nearly three years after taking office and this president hasn’t learned yet that
crawling around on your belly begging for scraps only encourages their

Barak Obama is either a gutless fool, a total incompetent, or just another
corporate-funded flunky.

Or all of the above.


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