“neoconscience.” What a clever double-entendre of a username! Nicely embads the word “neocon.” Well done!

I don’t remember are we still at war with Oceania, or is it Eurasia, it is very hard to keep up with ministry of truth. Is the forever war still being fought? Then let us not despair, Big Brother only has our security in mind, not the propping up of the decaying empire of robber barons and blood drinkers. Sleeping in the peace, anesthetized to the reality that democracy is uncomfortable, and that true freedom is precarious at best, you must leave thinking for yourself behind, your masters will do that for you. Trust them everything will turn out for the best.
Left, Right has no meaning no definition. Torn asunder, the unthinkable continues, those with the resources continue to destroy all that is clean, while the human race devours itself with the implanted truth’s of sophists in the service of the patrons of destruction. No one who is part of the system will ever point out,that the rule’s in place to direct out comes of the system have and will never conclude with these four simple requirements; clean water to drink, clean air to breath, clean food to eat and no yoke on the backs of humanity.

BOGI666:

The Nazi’s were socialist….the Tea Party is constitutionalist….I can think for myself, and I see quite well.

While I pay 65% of my income in TAXES so they can blow it on stupid pork, I get perturbed. When congress steals from my hand what I EARNED to GIVE to someone who earned nothing I get mad as hell. I am all for charity, but it is my money and I will choose how much I give and to whom I give. If some one wants their bills paid—GO TO WORK!!!! I have never been called so many names in all my life. The lazy left wants to call me stupid—I can balance my budget, work, raise my kids and still read the damn bill. They want to call me a terrorist because the American Flag waves in my yard and I still believe in the Constitution—Fine, I’m a terrorist. Just because I disagree with a half-black mans policies I’m a racist—I wouldn’t care if he was a rainbow colored cockatiel. It is time for Congress to be held accountable for it’s actions—note I said CONGRESS- not dems or repubs. I’m not a Bush fan any more than I like O’bama, They both were a disgrace to the the people.  I have no desire to have the government take care of me—I have seen what that looks like. NO THANKS. I will help vote them out.

I will own my guns, but never have I sided with or belonged to anything like the Hutaree, they wanted to KILL COPS and their families. As a cops kid- you Joe Conason can kiss my stupid racist extreme right wing domestic terrorist astroturf!!! I on the other hand will protect my country from the loons like Hutaree, guardians of the repulic and the lazy left wing thieves.

ONE IF BY LAND

A lot of us concerned about right wing craziness went through it years ago during the McCarthy era and saw first hand the damage it did to civil order and common sense.  So we don’t want to go through it again. 
  Innocent people lost their jobs, homes, reputation, sanity because of untrue, misconstrued, mischievious allegations.  Many people were terrified of the FBI/CIA and afraid to make any political statement. People were “tailed” for attending meetings of “suspected” organizations and meetings were “surveilled” or disrupted by “plants”.
  Self-appointed stooges terrorized public school officials with accusations of subversion that resulted in entire districts voting against raising a school bond, for instance, so a much-needed school could be built or repaired.  People who refused to sign, or questioned signing, “loyalty oaths” were fired from teaching jobs or refused employment. 
  The atmosphere was poisoned with deliberately encouraged suspicion and fear. It was very destructive of the ordinary civility necessary to keep a society functioning. In the Soutn, it was much worse than that during the struggle for civil rights, of course.  People learned then that it is true that “a false patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels,” because all the unproved allegatioins are always cloaked in the guise of upholding patriotism.
  Instilling fear and encouraging partisanship are very damaging to democracy.

I am truly sorry to say that the prediction of mass domestic violence is very likely valid.  Often, I believe we are being baited into just such response by a degenerate society that claims legitimacy under the Constitution.  I am not now, nor have ever been, a right (or left) radical, and Palin gives me a headache. Nonetheless, the blatancy of the bailout of the financial elite at the expense of everyone else in the country, the endless wars (and war mongering), the almost certain and imminent collapse of the economy, the impending tyranny of the IMF insisting WE accept austerity programs, et al, convince me that we are hurtling to a four-fold reckoning in this country and around the world.  If we resist econonmic fascism, we are considered extremists.  If we insist that medical care is a civil right and allowing people to die because someone won’t profit from their illness is wrong, we are socialists.  If we demand justice for ourselves and our neighbor by rejecting rampant pedophilia, we are “Catholic haters” (I am Catholic).  In other words, if we demand that our society follow the basic principles of honor, integrity, justice and compassion, we are indeed a threat to society.

What should we expect, except violence?

Profiling the actions of a few and assigning it to a large national group is uninformed stupidity.

Look at immediate accusations when events occur, like spitting on congressmen and yelling the “n” word or damaging political headquarters. Without a shred of proof, the finger-pointing began.

Damage to empty political offices a day after the health care bill passed were immediately reported. Bricks or other objects were thrown through campaign windows at night. The buildings were unoccupied. No one saw anything.

Do you recall that Democrats used the media to blame Tea Parties, and included the Republicans for not denouncing the incidents?

It is time to grow up and let a little reason leak into mental processes. When emotion comes into the room, reason walks out.

Who else could have done such a deed? Democrats could have orchestrated such an easy incident in order to smear organizations they perceive as a threat.

In Denver, a couple of years ago, a Democrat did throw a brick through the Democratic headquarters. He wanted people to think republicans did it.

Odds are that this current vandalism to offices will be a large talking point when members of congress are home. They will wring their hands and say can’t we be civil and kind to each other. Then, if a relatively few act out, the entire organization will be branded as all of the same kind.

It is easier to brand Tea Party members as scalawags, racists and ne’er-do-well gun-toting fascists who are threatening and intimidating Democrats.

Even Sarah Palin has apparently joined the Tea Party groups meeting around the country. We remember how she was treated as a candidate.

Lately, she advised “reload,” and the lefties jumped on it as a gun reference, accompanied by sniper targets in the map of the U.S. So she is branded as condoning guns and violence.

Guess I will have to reload my camera to catch proof. I surely can’t say I want to “target” those in office. Sounds like gun stuff. How about just voting them out?

Newspapers with heavy liberal leanings go along with misreporting the facts. Leave out a word here and there, and a different meaning is conveyed.

Last Sunday, The (Nashville) Tennessean’s front page reported a congressman’s yelled “baby killer.” The report should have correctly reported he yelled, “It’s a baby killer.” The congressman was against the bill, not the flip-flopper who changed his vote.

What names are Tea Party members called? A social worker, Jill Garner from Carthage MO, said, “We’re called morons, racists, lunatics and a mob.”

Truth is Democrats fear the Tea Parties, with good reason.

Instead of working to get along, we need to work to keep the U.S. Constitution intact and followed. If we don’t get along, but do succeed in returning the country to the voters, and not the government incumbents, good for us.

If we don’t succeed, we’ll be broke when the taxes start going up on health care and cap-and-trade.

“Sticks and stone may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” Sound familiar? It is an excellent rule to follow when debating. Harsh words in public do not necessarily signify terror, violence or racism.

If people want to be labeled as “uninformed and scared,” then they should continue to place blame where it doesn’t belong. Such foolishness will only make Tea Parties stronger.

“Just the facts, ma’am,” applies here. Did a majority or large number of Tea Party members spit on people or shout the “n” word 15 times? What are the facts? No one has identified any proof.

In closing, remember this. What did one tea bag say to the other? “We have miles to go before we steep.”

“A democracy ALWAYS collapses over loose financial
policy and is ALWAYS followed by a dictatorship!”

                    Alexander Tyler

Our founders left us with the tools we need to counteract the threat of domestic terrorists like Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, and the like.  And I do consider them to be just that, terrorists.  They are using their mass media coverage and access to spread misinformation and anti-government rhetoric.  This is designed to keep people in fear because that way they’ll keep tuning in.

Unfortunately, the real implementation of the tools our founders left us differs in ways that they would consider to be totally unpatriotic and dangerous.  The perversion of our media has skewed the public debate into a fantasyland of bizzaro-world factoids that have little bearing on reality.

Somewhere along the way it became a fact of American life that we can get nothing but bullshit from any of our “mainstream” news outlets.  In this world, money = truth, as things become true by endless repetition in the media echo chamber.  I just heard someone this evening on Rachel Maddow talking about how a single organization set up 40 different sub-organizations who echo and amplify the message they want heard. 

During to the runup to the Iraq invasion, the phrase “information given by a White House source on the condition of anonymity” actually meant “Duck, here comes a line of cosmic bullshit the likes of which you’ve never heard before.”  Time after time the media went after these selective misinformation leaks and went with them like they were a scoop.  The effect of this on America was to soften us up so it would make palatable the pre-emptive, illegal invasion of a sovereign nation that we had illegally harassed by air attacks and sanctions.

My favorite artifact from the misinformation campaign orchestrated by Cheney/Rove came in the form of a CBS News poll conducted in mid 2006 in which 64% said they believed that Saddam Hussein had strong ties to al Qaeda.  WTF? Where did that come from? Obviously a lie, and Dubya claims he never said it nor did anyone in his administration.  Bullshit.

So with our press compromised by money, the rich can create whatever reality it wants to create, as Cheney’s aide suggested. 

Right now the Big Dog is Faux News, and I truly believe that people on that network are committing acts which cross the line protecting free speech and move into the troubling area of rabble-rousing. Someday down the line enough citizens will unplug Faux that it will go down once and for all. 

Will something worse take its place?

-Wexler

Back in the 50s I used a book, I believe by a guy named Carey McWilliams, called “One Nation” which had some info in it on hysterical political antagonizers of the time—people who were trying to keep to “get the government off their backs,” etc. (John Birdhers, etc.)
  The local groups in California sort of died a natural death after WWII, McCarthyism,  and the terrible atom bombing of Japan.  I don’t know whether we can depend on the natural death part nowadays or not, but wish it would be so.  However, we all desperately need more courage to face these issues together, more places to learn and discuss, etc. Ignorance is a large part of the problem.
  Cooperation is essential, I feel.

For the Republicans and the radical right, Limbaugh especially, an honest evaluation of anything is not possible. It is agenda first. Even arguing about Limbaugh pronouncements or the truth and/or impact is pointless. We don’t have the same criteria of a Limbaugh or of most Republicans. Limbaugh and Republicans are total narcissists. The self first, then everything else should be their motto.

Thus it is fruitless to expect any other criteria out of them.

Gerard,
U brought up pertinent questions. I think that ruling class does not support such inquiries that u are caling for because it may lead to an enlightement; which wld cut dwn on its power.tnx

Question:
    Do fear and hysteria have anything to do with it?  If so, who or what promotes hysteria?

Question: Is it related to other violence in the   society, such as war, the idea of “holy” wars, historical/religious “heroes”?  And is it related to “male superiority” and feelings of adequacy?

Question:  Where are the psychological and statistical studies in depth on these subject? 
Until we have some solid information about these outbursts, how can they be prevented?

Anyone:  Please refer me to books, articles, serious investigations etc.  Thanks.

Question:  What’s education got to do with it?
    Or has such a study ever been made?

One caveat! Don’t read this in u’r a christian, moslem, talmudnik, beck’s wife, or palin’s new beau, et al.

Here is an issue hitherto not talkt ab let alone sung praises to it:

We`ve tried god or gods for, let`s say, 10k yrs. And we got nowhere. Actually, we did. More ab it s`mwhen-s`mwhere-s`mhow-s`mwhy? Or, not? U see, kids, i don`t make `promises`; least of all, priestly-politico-marital ones.

As i said, we tried gods. I tried a god, god xy7,but got nowhere.
So i swithed to a Satan, the devil xy7. U know, this is not a bad idea; i.e, trying to melt devil`s heart.

However, she`s not listening either. So i am switching over to god xy8 or may be to god xy9.1.

So, if u see s`mthing good happening in next couple of days, u`d know my prayers to the new god or gods r working.tnx all u atheists with nogod 1,2,3,4,5 xyk, yx

I know u love me and agree with me! tnx again!

So,pashtuns and iraqis who kill occupiers are “terrorists” and occupiers are non-terrorists.
So, all occupiers need to do is to kill or capture all terrorists and then go home?

Russians have just announced their intention to wipe off the map all “terrorists”; also using non-terrorists or pro bono people to acomplish it.
And also they go home after they kill all terrorists?

Or, the non-terrorists wld continue fighting terrorists for another few millennia?
I thought that after ca 10k yrs of this we wld at least say: how long, oh our dear devil, will this go on?

Ok, folks, mollifying Satan or pleading with her may not be bad idea. In any case, what can we lose by doing that; i.e., trying to melt devil’s heart?

We tried god and even gods, but look where we are now or actually had been for millennia: serfs, cannon fodder, yes bwana people!tnx

Though you may not like or agree with him, Chris Hedges has been saying this for decades.