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Posted on Jan 30, 2012
AP / Carolyn Kaster

A police officer holds a tear gas launcher at the ready during a standoff with protesters at the G-20 Summit in Toronto in June 2010.

By Chris Hedges

What happened to Canada? It used to be the country we would flee to if life in the United States became unpalatable. No nuclear weapons. No huge military-industrial complex. Universal health care. Funding for the arts. A good record on the environment.

But that was the old Canada. I was in Montreal on Friday and Saturday and saw the familiar and disturbing tentacles of the security and surveillance state. Canada has withdrawn from the Kyoto Accords so it can dig up the Alberta tar sands in an orgy of environmental degradation. It carried out the largest mass arrests of demonstrators in Canadian history at 2010’s G-8 and G-20 meetings, rounding up more than 1,000 people. It sends undercover police into indigenous communities and activist groups and is handing out stiff prison terms to dissenters. And Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper is a diminished version of George W. Bush. He champions the rabid right wing in Israel, bows to the whims of global financiers and is a Christian fundamentalist.

The voices of dissent sound like our own. And the forms of persecution are familiar. This is not an accident. We are fighting the same corporate leviathan.

“I want to tell you that I was arrested because I am seen as a threat,” Canadian activist Leah Henderson wrote to fellow dissidents before being sent to Vanier prison in Milton, Ontario, to serve a 10-month sentence. “I want to tell you that you might be too. I want to tell you that this is something we need to prepare for. I want to tell you that the risk of incarceration alone should not determine our organizing.”

“My skills and experience—as a facilitator, as a trainer, as a legal professional and as someone linking different communities and movements—were all targeted in this case, with the state trying to depict me as a ‘brainwasher’ and as a mastermind of mayhem, violence and destruction,” she went on. “During the week of the G8 & G20 summits, the police targeted legal observers, street medics and independent media. It is clear that the skills that make us strong, the alternatives that reduce our reliance on their systems and prefigure a new world, are the very things that they are most afraid of.”

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The decay of Canada illustrates two things. Corporate power is global, and resistance to it cannot be restricted by national boundaries. Corporations have no regard for nation-states. They assert their power to exploit the land and the people everywhere. They play worker off of worker and nation off of nation. They control the political elites in Ottawa as they do in London, Paris and Washington. This, I suspect, is why the tactics to crush the Occupy movement around the globe have an eerie similarity—infiltrations, surveillance, the denial of public assembly, physical attempts to eradicate encampments, the use of propaganda and the press to demonize the movement, new draconian laws stripping citizens of basic rights, and increasingly harsh terms of incarceration.

Our solidarity should be with activists who march on Tahrir Square in Cairo or set up encampamentos in Madrid. These are our true compatriots. The more we shed ourselves of national identity in this fight, the more we grasp that our true allies may not speak our language or embrace our religious and cultural traditions, the more powerful we will become.

Those who seek to discredit this movement employ the language of nationalism and attempt to make us fearful of the other. Wave the flag. Sing the national anthem. Swell with national hubris. Be vigilant of the hidden terrorist. Canada’s Minister of Natural Resources Joe Oliver, responding to the growing opposition to the Keystone XL and the Northern Gateway pipelines, wrote in an open letter that “environmental and other radical groups” were trying to “hijack our regulatory system to achieve their radical ideological agenda.” He accused pipeline opponents of receiving funding from foreign special interest groups and said that “if all other avenues have failed, they will take a quintessential American approach: sue everyone and anyone to delay the project even further.”

No matter that in both Canada and the United States suing the government to seek redress is the right of every citizen. No matter that the opposition to the Keystone XL and Northern Gateway pipelines has its roots in Canada. No matter that the effort by citizens in the U.S. and in Canada to fight climate change is about self-preservation. The minister, in the pocket of the fossil fuel industry like the energy czars in most of the other industrialized nations, seeks to pit “loyal” Canadians against “disloyal” Canadians. Those with whom we will build this movement of resistance will not in some cases be our own. They may speak Arabic, pray five times a day toward Mecca and be holding off the police thugs in the center of Cairo. Or they may be generously pierced and tattooed and speak Danish or they may be Mandarin-speaking workers battling China’s totalitarian capitalism. These are differences that make no difference.

“My country right or wrong,” G.K. Chesterton once wrote, is on the same level as “My mother, drunk or sober.”

Our most dangerous opponents, in fact, look and speak like us. They hijack familiar and comforting iconography and slogans to paint themselves as true patriots. They claim to love Jesus. But they cynically serve the function a native bureaucracy serves for any foreign colonizer. The British and the French, and earlier the Romans, were masters of this game. They recruited local quislings to carry out policies and repression that were determined in London or Paris or Rome. Popular anger was vented against these personages, and native group vied with native group in battles for scraps of influence. And when one native ruler was overthrown or, more rarely, voted out of power, these imperial machines recruited a new face. The actual centers of power did not change. The pillage continued. Global financiers are the new colonizers. They make the rules. They pull the strings. They offer the illusion of choice in our carnivals of political theater. But corporate power remains constant and unimpeded. Barack Obama serves the same role Herod did in imperial Rome. 

This is why the Occupy Wall Street movement is important. It targets the center of power—global financial institutions. It deflects attention from the empty posturing in the legislative and executive offices in Washington or London or Paris. The Occupy movement reminds us that until the corporate superstructure is dismantled it does not matter which member of the native elite is elected or anointed to rule. The Canadian prime minister is as much a servant of corporate power as the American president. And replacing either will not alter corporate domination. As the corporate mechanisms of control become apparent to wider segments of the population, discontent will grow further. So will the force employed by our corporate overlords. It will be a long road for us. But we are not alone. There are struggles and brush fires everywhere. Leah Henderson is not only right. She is my compatriot.


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By Ecommerce Web Design, February 16, 2012 at 2:26 am Link to this comment

Just more examples of how corporations are not, as Mitt Romney naively stated, “people”. Corporations are, no matter how much money they put into the political process, by nature, anti government. Another huge difference? People actually pay taxes.

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By Jim Effect, February 15, 2012 at 1:37 am Link to this comment

The biggest effect of globalization is giving rise to a group of elite corporations that have powers that transcend national borders. This is a scary reality, but there is almost nothing much that the governments can do except to bend to the will of these people.

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By Les DIPLOMATES, February 11, 2012 at 8:56 am Link to this comment
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Canada has always been a willing cog of both empires.
Ignorance of historical facts won’t change it’s
awfull legacy… I know I’m a quebecer & we still
have to cope with the crown & queen wink Scottish &
irish are not alone being stucked in this medieval
absudity !

1 ) :: OH CANADA ! UNE COMPILATION D’HORREURS…
http://www.lesdiplomates1984.com/news/oh-canada-une-
compilation-dhorreurs/

2) OH CANADA ! :: L’ASSASSIN SILENCIEUX
http://www.lesdiplomates1984.com/news/canadaquebec/

Les peuples corrompus préfèrent le bien-être de
l’esclavage aux rudes efforts de la liberté. - John
Milton

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By zoskia, February 9, 2012 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

What the hell happened to Canada?

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By horkheimer86, February 6, 2012 at 12:09 am Link to this comment

Back on point again,

Relating to the decay of the Left in Canada, looking at former Liberal Leader, Michael Ignatieff, we have Derrick O’Keefe:

http://www.newleftproject.org/index.php/site/article_comments/michael_ignatieff_and_liberal_failure

“Even as liberal and in some cases social democratic intellectuals became less convinced of the state’s ability to intervene effectively to redistribute wealth at home, they simultaneously become convinced of the state’s revolutionary power to spread democracy, women’s rights and apple pie through bombing, invading and military occupying foreign societies. For them, to imagine raising corporate taxes was to flirt with totalitarianism, but to advocate for massive bombing and invasion of others countries was presented as the highest stage of humanitarianism.

So in some ways I think that Ignatieff’s career is a microcosm of this scoundrel era that – I hope – is finally coming to an end. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, he moved in leftish circles, and did some elegant and important writing and academic work. But from my reading I don’t believe Ignatieff was ever a convinced person of the left. The massive class battle of 1984 between the Thatcher government and the coal miners’ union clarified things for Ignatieff. He recalled it as the moment he realized he was a liberal, not a socialist. So, not for the last time, he upset his colleagues and threw the left under the bus, writing a long essay essentially disavowing the miners’ struggle.

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As everywhere, the victors have written Canadian history, and so a mythology has been built up in which all the best remaining features of the welfare state were the gift of benevolent Liberal politicians. The truth is that things like universal health care and old age pensions were policies introduced into the discussion by social democrats and the Left, and fought for and won by determined social movements.”

Liberals, and Liberals it seems in Canada too, have bought onto this fabricated historical notion that democracy and human rights have been established through the state and are able to be established in other societies through the state arm of the military and achieve the same results. The truth, it seems, is that these rights were brought into discussion by academics of the Left in addition to the fighting and winning done by social movements. It seems nonetheless that these social movements have to work in conjunction with the academics, and that they have to feed off each other’s innovation in these ideas. This is something that has been lost on the Liberal Class today and been replaced with by the rise of our corporate lords instead. On the Left we are now struggling with the idea of leaders at all, with this rise of our leaderless movements with Occupy here in Canada and significantly in America, but perhaps we still need intellectual leaders like we need Hedges, but instead we should seek to bring all our talents together so that we can introduce proper ideas into the discussion, as well as fight and win in the name of those goals to the utmost of our abilities. We just need to find intellectuals that are trying to introduce these important issues around Occupy, and in Canada this is no more crucial a place, at least so intellectuals like Hedges can have some more pleasant things to say about Canada.

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By horkheimer86, February 5, 2012 at 11:08 pm Link to this comment

This really is identity politics again and again. I’ve seen a number of speakers brought to lecture and sponsored by Occupy in Toronto Canada but yet what these lecturers say and what the Occupiers in the audience are saying sometimes seem like they’re coming from totally different worlds.

For example, I saw somewhat recently Linda Mcquaig, a big name in progressive Canadian economists, and Jim Stanford (another big name). They were brought in by Occupy, and discussed the economics. When it came time for people to ask their questions, one heard the most out there ideas, points about reverse brainwashing people instead of understanding that’s what real education is, or that we are all interconnected like they say in every Bell commercial these days.

Afterwards I went up to get her new book. She was saying shouldn’t I be out partying because other people were saying there weren’t that many youth there, so she wanted to talk a little. I used it as an opportunity to bring up how I wanted to thank her for giving direction as a leader in face of mounting identity politics issues. She seemed struck by me bringing up identity politics and said “yeah, I felt dismayed by a lot of the people’s questions.” She said something about how she wasn’t really sure what people were asking sometimes out there and she had a look on her face like it might have been a little more than dismaying.

What I am saying is let’s not dismay or make matters more daunting than they already are for the world. In one way problem solving for the Left is a little like music, and like a musician we should all know that high fidelity is much better than low fidelity when it comes to making music or good ideas.

Thanks.

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By horkheimer86, February 5, 2012 at 10:45 pm Link to this comment

By Paul Wills, February 4 at 10:16 am

Hedges would have done this if he was involved in the debate but these people have done a fine job themselves, I just wanted to log my comment as saying that you’ve done a good job and should recognize the other man’s point.

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I do want to quickly comment on this. I don’t actually want to have a point counterpoint with a non-point maker, ie just random talking. I’m more interested in following key points in a debate and responding to them, trying to retain the fidelity of the discussion before it becomes purple monkey dishwashers we are talking about.

My point is that we all make points, I do not discredit that, but to keep to a topic, and frankly everybody is going for the author, namely Chris Hedges, so I am interested in people’s replies to his points per essay written, not whatever good points people want to bring up without relation to a Hedges’ article merely used as a forum space to discuss anything whatsoever.

I have to respond to this in this specific way because the fidelity of keeping to specific talking points in discussions is like an elephant in the room with the Left so often on the internet, in person, where ever.

Tomorrow Hedges will write us a new article, where I will not post about Canadian points that I brought up here because it is very likely he won’t be talking about Canada. whatever he is talking about, I will try to make sure I discuss that if I am to discuss it at all, and not do this structureless idea of talking about whatever is on my mind like Canada because I am a Canadian, which is somewhat the message I tried to get through in my comments on this essay.

Its hard talking to people who associate with the left when they wander too much in thoughts. I acknowledge people do bring up good ideas sometimes this way but, for example, the idea that somehow I’ve ignored music and therefore been fascist in that respect is absurd. I thoroughly enjoy music and a lot of other things but I think that its best to talk about those things when that is the topic or when there actually is no topic like in a more general discussion forum. This is subject driven stuff though, or at least we got to aim to do that a little more.

This goes a little deeper. This is some of the problems I’ve had with the Occupy project in Canada, Toronto specifically in the very realistic sense from having gone to their events on a number of occasions.

My contention is simple, sticking to the point. Keeping the fidelity of the idea that the movement/essay is centered around as central to all replies and future actions as much as possible, for that was the driving force behind people’s interests in such.

At Occupy, people continue to bring up a variety of philosophical conjectures and realizations about our interconnectedness etc but have trouble discussing what 1% and 99% mean and what are their implications, drawing on these points, which when you boil down these points involve the economy and in many respects the tax system, and with it perhaps secondarily, the litigious matters that involve the judicial system and allows the economy to operate the way it does. People at Occupy in Canada have had some struggling with keeping to the economic point about inequality (which really is an economic issue, that’s the kind of inequality we’re talking about when we say 99%), and people want to steal the show or the limelight or have their impulses and feel they have important things to say. These points may in fact be important but at some level their importance to addressing the ideas at hand are more having to do with identity politics than they are to having to do with issues more connecting with a greater majority.

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By John, February 5, 2012 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment
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Canada-long coming poster child for the new totalitarian world order.Spoon fed reduced and well controlled brainwashed population of about 10 people per square mile.

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By Anna kissed me, February 4, 2012 at 11:08 pm Link to this comment
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Jerry,can’t say I like all of your music but the fact that you are creating is an act of beauty in itself. I feel the same thing.

Consciousness evolves?

Perhaps the Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, Krishnamurti had evolved consciousness but most of humanity is still floundering,including me,

Laws evolve?

The laws of physics, the laws of gravity are eternal constants.

Human laws are written by the rulers. The rulers are corruptible. The vast majority of laws are written to protecet property,another selfish thought that has no reality. When you’re dead who “owns” your stuff?

Atoms, nuetrons, protons, quarks, whatever, all act in co-operation (they bond). There is no particle or cell “in charge” in the entire Universe. They obey the eternal laws.

The World Health Organization, and the International Criminal Court were formed because hierarchies all over the world cause CHAOS through exploitation. Hierarchies are not evil, but they are corruptible. Who does the boss answer too?

Anarchy does not mean isolation it means rules WITHOUT rulers.

All other political isms have failed because small minorities can never ever be trusted.

Don’t believe me,find out for yourself.

But first, you must start with a blank slate.

What we are taught, what we are told, what we believe, must be left behind. Opinions, (changeable thoughts) act as barriers to truth.

We already are a tribe of seven billion, divided by all of the thoughts and opinions of our clever little minds.

Intelligence without wisdom.

johnboylebandcamp.com   (if you’re interested Jerry)

All original songs, written by yours truly.

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By Paul Wills, February 4, 2012 at 11:16 am Link to this comment
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I have read all this and agree with allot of the posters comments. I think that you should think of the other side of the coin when in a debate such as we are and with Mr. Gerber and the other fellow horkheimer66 is to respect and analyze the other positions.

Hedges would have done this if he was involved in the debate but these people have done a fine job themselves, I just wanted to log my comment as saying that you’ve done a good job and should recognize the other man’s point.

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By horkheimer86, February 3, 2012 at 8:56 pm Link to this comment

Notes on Hedges’ Article

Canada can no longer claim it doesn’t have a huge military-industrial complex.

Canada no longer has a good record on the environment. It has withdrawn from the Kyoto Accords so it can pursue the environmentally destructive Alberta Tar sands project.

The largest mass arrests of demonstrators in Canadian history occurred at the 2010 G-8 and G-20 meetings, rounding up more than 1,000 people.

Canada sends undercover police into indigenous communities and activist groups and is handing out stiff prison terms to dissenters.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is a diminished version of George W. Bush. He champions the rabid right wing in Israel, bows to the whims of global financiers and is a Christian fundamentalist.

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These points bring up some important matters for Americans and Canadians to consider about how they must realize there are no safe havens anymore, at least in North America for that matter.

I’m a little curious somewhat of what Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s opinions of organizations like Christians United For Israel, and if his support is grounded in well reasoned theological Dominionist logic like that found there and in Luke Chapter 21, maybe someone should inquire? We do know dissent against Israeli assaults on Palestinians has been repressed in academic schools under the Harper government http://rabble.ca/books/reviews/2012/02/no-debate .

Hedges talks about G20 demonstrator and organizer Leah Henderson and quotes her from a letter she sent out from after her incarceration. In that letter she explains just how Draconian Canada has become for true activists rallying for causes that aren’t co-opted by a dead Liberal class, and she says:

I organize openly as an anti-colonial, anti-capitalist anarchist. My organizing is focused on movement building, and this commitment to build skill sets and support other activists is another part of why the state has targeted me. http://conspiretoresist.wordpress.com/leah-henderson/

For an example of the dead liberal class in Canada think former Liberal party leader Michael Ignatieff’s pre-emptive war endorsement of Iraq and his support for torture, Derrick O’keefe does a great study on this http://www.straight.com/article-526486/vancouver/michael-ignatieff-lesser-evil ).

Hedges talks about the similarity of Christian fundamentalism hijacking the Canadian government as it has in America, and he brings up horrible historical examples but leaves out the Spanish invaders that came to America and issued the Spanish Requirement of 1513 to the indigenous people to convert to Christianity or suffer death, perhaps a more recent historical example than the Romans on our way to understanding Christian fundamentalism. The process of forcing conversion has been much more recent in Canadian history. It wasn’t long about that the church was ravaging the lives of indigenous people in Canada who were forced into residential schools, torn from their parents as kids, and up until even the 90s studies finding sexual and physical abuse going on by the administrators within these schools, forcing indigenous people to adjust to an world that is sadistic to their existence at its core http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2008/05/16/f-faqs-residential-schools.html .

Rabble.ca has some alright material on these sorts of changes in Canadian politics that won’t be found in our dead Liberal class as much such as CBC unfortunately, and The Globe and Mail ever more than before, with a pittance of good stories coming out of the Toronto Star. People are better off going to http://www.socialistproject.ca/ or http://rabble.ca/ or http://www.dominionpaper.ca/ if they want to start looking for more radical opinions than the gutted values that reinforce the an irresponsible financial sector and expensive lifestyles and a myopic outlook on the world.

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By katsteevns, February 3 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

“Globalization is not the culprit here. It is those who wield power, exploit the land, labor, markets, natural resources and capital of all countries, including our own, then try and PASS IT OFF as globalization. Our political leaders and pundits preach the virtues of one world government, not because it is in the best interests of the people, but because they are in the hip pockets of the trans-nationals and the war machine.”

Exactly.  Bush’s idea of a “new world order” is actually an old form of tyranny wrapped in global terms.  But a real, democratic global legal system that enshrines in a world constitution the environmental, economic and civil rights of all citizens of the world is a different concept altogether.  The International Criminal Court is a good start, a good beginning to holding war-starters legally and individually accountable for the crimes.  Global governance will evolve naturally as the pressing global problems of climate change, overpopulation, poverty, nuclear warfare, out-of-control corporate dominance, non-border respecting pollution (i.e. the Japanese nuclear power plant disaster) require a high degree of international cooperation and problem-solving.  Check out the newly-formed Justice Party; Rocky Anderson is running for President as a 3rd party candidate and has a track record that puts democrats and republicans to shame.  His record, from what I’ve seen so far, is one that respects human rights and international law.

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By Jerry Gerber, February 3, 2012 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

By katsteevns, February 3 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

“Globalization is not the culprit here. It is those who wield power, exploit the land, labor, markets, natural resources and capital of all countries, including our own, then try and PASS IT OFF as globalization. Our political leaders and pundits preach the virtues of one world government, not because it is in the best interests of the people, but because they are in the hip pockets of the trans-nationals and the war machine.”

Exactly.  Bush’s idea of a “new world order” is actually an old form of tyranny wrapped in global terms.  But a real, democratic global legal system that enshrines in a world constitution the environmental, economic and civil rights of all citizens of the world is a different concept altogether.  The International Criminal Court is a good start, a good beginning to holding war-starters legally and individually accountable for the crimes.  Global governance will evolve naturally as the pressing global problems of climate change, overpopulation, poverty, nuclear warfare, out-of-control corporate dominance, non-border respecting pollution (i.e. the Japanese nuclear power plant disaster) require a high degree of international cooperation and problem-solving.  Check out the newly-formed Justice Party; Rocky Anderson is running for President as a 3rd party candidate and has a track record that puts democrats and republicans to shame.

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By katsteevns, February 3, 2012 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

Globalization is not the culprit here. It is those who wield power, exploit the land, labor, markets, natural resources and capital of all countries, including our own, then try and PASS IT OFF as globalization. Our political leaders and pundits preach the virtues of one world government, not because it is in the best interests of the people, but because they are in the hip pockets of the trans-nationals and the war machine.

One world government in our eyes represents stability and continuity. It has an appeal. The concept is the perfect TOOL of persuasion for the owning class.

But you must ask yourself what are the motives of those who promote the headlong advance when if fact we could just allow the thing to happen naturally involving everyone, contributing in ways they see fit, using THEIR OWN faculties to make decisions, not in ways preached to us by unelected mouthpieces on the tube or in the papers.

Why can not the common people have faith in their own virtue because for sure, those in power believe in theirs. And that power gives them a false sense of entitlement that we have all mistakenly come to believe is in itself virtuous.

Thinking for yourself is becoming a criminal act.

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By Jerry Gerber, February 3, 2012 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment

By Anna kissed me, February 2 at 4:44 pm

“Globalization evolutionary?

Only nature evolves.”

No, not correct.  Consciousness evolves, law evolves and concepts of human rights evolve. 

“Thought/s cannot evolve because they are not real. Globalization is an idea, it came from a thought.”

Thought is real, thoughts create decisions, which create action and language, which in turn have real consequences in the physical, moral and social realms.


“Globalization is irrational, world government is irrational because they are both based on hierarchies (another thought/idea).

There are no hierarchies in nature. It does what it does without malice. Without thought.”

Really?  No hierarchies?  Sub-atomic particles form atoms, atoms form elements, planets, tissue, bodies.  Solar systems exist within galaxies, galaxies within groups and clusters of galaxies.

if globalization is irrational should we all be isolated living in separate little tribes?  So the WHO and the International Criminal Court are “irrational”?  The rules governing how air traffic flows are “irrational”? (planes flying east fly at a different altitude from planes flying west).


JG

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By katsteevns, February 3, 2012 at 11:19 am Link to this comment

@ horkheimer86

More than just comparing the US to Canada, CH is telling us what action must be taken:


“until the corporate superstructure is dismantled it does not matter which member of the native elite is elected or anointed to rule.”


The question remains: Will we act now, or wait until we are completely alienated from each other by this machine, our every right being gradually and systematically chipped away? The intention being that we are stripped of every last resource available at our disposal to fight back.

Many will call this a conspiracy theory. But no, it is the classic case of class warfare which Karl Marx envisioned. But since most have closed their eyes to Marx’s teachings, they have chosen to remain blind to the reality and prefer to step off the cliff in complete surrender to a corporate machine. A machine that promises prosperity and unbridled self fulfillment. It enables us to turn our backs on morality and feel good about it as well.

Completely delusional thinking which will bring about the abrupt end of individual freedom as we know it.

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Globalization evolutionary?

Only nature evolves.

Humans are of nature, not the pinnacle, merely a part (and apart).

Thought/s cannot evolve because they are not real. Globalization is an idea, it came from a thought.

The thought of greed. The thought of exploitation.

How many thoughts, how much CANCER can we stomach?

Evolution? No, it’s atrophy.

Thought/s can be either logical or irrational.

Globalization is irrational, world government is irrational because they are both based on hierarchies (another thought/idea).

There are no hierarchies in nature. It does what it does without malice. Without thought.

Nature is more ancient than we can comprehend. It knows.

Nature acts symbiotically. Even the parasites.

So what do we do now?

We act when necessary and wait for the cancer/ignorance to destroy it’s host.

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By horkheimer86, February 2, 2012 at 1:31 pm Link to this comment

Hedge’s article is called “Corporations Have No Use For Borders” but he’s comparing America to Canada, it helps to build off of what people are clicking on Hedge’s Truthdig article for, not necessarily Gerber’s or any other person’s personal formula for a future society under one global government.

Sure this Gerber fellow goes on about the UN and how something bigger is needed. Sure this is called international law, and Spanish Judge Baltazar Garzon, not a UN official, is a good example of how to use those laws other than through organizations like the UN, although he is currently facing limitations within his own state, http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2012/1/31/watch_democracy_now_intv_with_spanish_judge_baltasar_garzn_who_probed_war_crimes_now_faces_trial. Still though there are diversity of means in the struggle towards universal human rights laws and global governance is perhaps nothing more than a philosophical rumination idealizing this supposed end goal instead of perhaps recognizing lagging differences in recognized rights which varies across geographical locations. This is an ongoing dialogue, with cases about human rights being provided in different innovative ways from different parts of the globe that because of differing public opinions about universal human rights, these points about rights across geographical location somewhat take time to steep in these different societies. The UN is a small step albeit co-opted and basically almost an appendage of American hegemony & corporate capitalism but there are other internationally leaning jurisdictional bodies out there like the International Court of Justice, The World Health Organization, and individual nations that actually seek to put war criminals on trial in the manner of the Nuremberg Trials.

Other than saying sure international governance standards are driving people’s energies towards the public good, which are pretty well the same thing, to point that out ad nauseum seems redundant and a waste of time. My point is that Chris Hedges wrote a particular opinion piece and we should try to talk about that because that’s why people are here, not for seeing necessarily what’s generally on Gerber’s mind or mine, but what people have to say about what Hedges said. This is a continuous problem with opinionated people, making sure they can make their opinions reflect what people came to discuss instead of veering everything towards own personal ideas, anchoring public ideas in that way. If Hedge’s wanted people to think about global governance in other ways like Gerber brought up I’m sure he could’ve done so. It seems rather Hedges wanted to make a global point by doing a case study comparison with Canada to drill in that point through concrete examples. Sometimes the approach of building case studies helps people see the reality of the situation all the more because it can be looked up instead of theorizing in almost metaphorical way.

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By katsteevns, February 2 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment

“Well, JG, I hope that those lawyers and scholars you mentioned have a plan as to how they are going to render impotent those who now control the lions share of the wealth and are raping the planet. Because this is going to have to be their first step.

Cynicism, I feel, is a necessary and powerful tool at this point in the struggle for equality and peace, especially in a country where most of the populous remains in slumber. It quite often solicits a reaction from those who are comfortable with business as usual, the status quo, and orthodox opinion, causing them to lay their beliefs and principles right out on the table, and possibly reconsidering them in the process. Surely a good thing!

I don’t believe we have a century or possibly even a decade. Something needs to be done right now. If we wait a century, the tree may be on the verge of extinction.”


I think what we can do right now is limited.  Massive strikes, refusing to serve in the military, large, organized protests, letter-writing, not voting for the “lesser of two evils”, organizing a 3rd and maybe a 4th political party, etc.  I am not saying global government is around the corner, to be sure. It may be several hundred years away.  But after World War VI, people will probably come to their senses and realize unbridled national sovereignty is deadly, it is racially suicidal (human race)and it is a kind of disease. I suppose cynicism serves some purpose as you suggest, but be careful, it can easily corrode the psyche and cause one to shut down to life and all its possibilities.

JG
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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Well, JG, I hope that those lawyers and scholars you mentioned have a plan as to how they are going to render impotent those who now control the lions share of the wealth and are raping the planet. Because this is going to have to be their first step.

Cynicism, I feel, is a necessary and powerful tool at this point in the struggle for equality and peace, especially in a country where most of the populous remains in slumber. It quite often solicits a reaction from those who are comfortable with business as usual, the status quo, and orthodox opinion, causing them to lay their beliefs and principles right out on the table, and possibly reconsidering them in the process. Surely a good thing!

I don’t believe we have a century or possibly even a decade. Something needs to be done right now. If we wait a century, the tree may be on the verge of extinction.

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By David J. Cyr, February 2 at 6:20 am

This is a pretty good documentary to respond to comments like a guy like Gerber with.

“In relation to that doc it does kind of seem like David Gerber is an extreme example of how informal structures like those exhibited in hippie communes or on the internet allowed the more controlling members to dominate over the others through informal mechanisms like charisma, bullying, flooding this forum for example with some particular ill-described utopia like Gerber does, all the while taking the discussion off track.”

Extreme?  Discussion off track?  Hedges article is called “Corporations Have No Use for Borders”, which is deeply related to the problem of how do nations govern corporate entities when their power, influence and reach extends far beyond national borders. I’d say my discussion of global governance on right on track and quite pertinent. 

You bring up that I am composer, which has nothing to do with anything, other than the fact that it makes you look like you believe that people in the arts shouldn’t express their political views.  A little fascist, don’t ya think?  As far as putting my weblink beneath my name, no one is holding a gun to your head saying you have to click on it. 

The film you refer to has little to do with the discussion I am having with another individual.  you imply there is “bullying” and “flooding the internet” going on because of this discussion?  What kind of unexamined prejudice do you have that you’d say something so utterly devoid substance?  Ecch!  While I am sure it doesn’t matter at all to you, my name is Jerry, not David. So far, you’ve spent most of your time attacking my person, without one reasoned argument against what I am saying.  You suggested I am “anti-authority”, when in fact I am calling for a higher organization of authority beyond nationalism.  You say I am lacking detail in my argument, yet you include no details in regards to what about global government is so “utopian”. 

If you want a discussion, fine.  If you want to attack me for being in the arts, don’t bother communicating with me because I won’t take you seriously.

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com (blatant self-promotion! ;>)

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By horkheimer86, February 2, 2012 at 11:29 am Link to this comment

By David J. Cyr, February 2 at 6:20 am

QUOTE, Jerry Gerber:

“Globalization cannot be stopped, it is evolutionary in nature and the world is increasingly interconnected via our communications…”
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All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace/

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This is a pretty good documentary to respond to comments like a guy like Gerber with.

In relation to that doc it does kind of seem like David Gerber is an extreme example of how informal structures like those exhibited in hippie communes or on the internet allowed the more controlling members to dominate over the others through informal mechanisms like charisma, bullying, flooding this forum for example with some particular ill-described utopia like Gerber does, all the while taking the discussion off track.

Here’s Wikipedia’s entry on All Watched Over By Machines Of Loving Grace explaining this idea (watch the doc to get the full idea though):

In 2003, a wave of spontaneous revolutions swept through Asia and Europe. Coordinated only by the internet, nobody seemed to be in overall charge, and no overall aims except self-determination and freedom were apparent. This seemed to justify the beliefs of the computer utopians.

However, the freedom from these revolutions in fact lasted for only a short time. Curtis compared them with the hippie communes, all of which had broken up within three years as the powerful members of the group began to bully the weaker ones; the weaker members were unable to band together in their own defence because power structures had been prohibited by the commune’s rules.
http://en.wikipedia.org

/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines_of_Loving_Grace_(television_documentary_series)

Basically this is all just lulz to Gerber and Gerber’s website link for unknown reasons put at the bottom of his comments as blatant self promotion, and the guy is a composer, totally unrelated to politics so it clearly is just advertizing, lol.

Sometimes its impulsive people who are fine dissenting against authority and all that comes with it like oppression, death, etc, except these impulsive people somewhat lack the clarity of truly courageous people who are dissenting against authority because they have studied it well and take the fine details seriously.

Anyways, anybody check out any of Gerber’s tracks? You like his tunes or what?

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By Jerry Gerber, February 2, 2012 at 10:47 am Link to this comment

One last thing:  We don’t have “International Law”, at the present time.  The U.N. is not democratic, the five permanent members of the security council (who happen to be the five largest arms dealers in the world) can veto any vote that comes up.  That’s not democracy. What we have now is the pre-cursor to international law, we have the illusion of international law.  Why? Because the U.N. has no teeth.  It cannot arrest Bush and Cheney and the rest of the thugs in their gang for war crimes and put them on trial in a global court of law.  It does not have laws that must be obeyed by nations. It cannot hold individuals to account. It cannot outlaw warfare as a means of resolving disputes between nations.  The United Nations is more like a child playing cops and robbers, it is just a game, a fantasy of global cooperation, but underneath that fantasy is a very authentic need for government on a planetary level.  The U.N. apparently is the “best” we can do right now to reign in the lawlessness of nationalism, and, as all thinking people realize, it is not very good at what it is supposed to do:  end armed conflict between nation-states.

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By Jerry Gerber, February 2, 2012 at 10:37 am Link to this comment

@ Jerry Gerber

“If there weren’t any profit in it, do you think that people like George H.W. Bush would have even brought the subject up in the first place? I doubt it. Peace is the last thing on the mind of one who murdered 200,000 Iraqis. Except for politicians preaching the virtues, we might not even be talking about global government or a New World Order.

Science and technology start ups are mostly funded by you and I and we have no say in what gets created. Should I be thankful for that?!? The benefits of research are then turned over to private companies who reap the profits. We enjoy the benefits a a high price. A perfect example is the fate of solar, wind, tidal and electric vehicle technology which we desperately need.

You say we need global governance. Well, we have extensive international law already of which the US in the primary violator. They garner the legitimate legal use of force and violence upon anyone who gets in their way. Much blood has been spilled so you and I can speak across the miles in this way.

The question remains: Who will make this global government you speak of and better yet, who will enforce the laws, the elite owning class?

You can blame human nature all you like, but it is not the collective nature of humanity that has brought us to this point, but the ambitions of a privileged segment, the power wielders of society, those who first serve their own extravagant interests before considering the simple needs of the less fortunate.”
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I am not “blaming” human nature.  I am stating that 1)human nature has a tendency to create larger and larger groups of inclusion, and 2) government is necessary until the day we are all so spiritually evolved (self-governed) and acting out of love and compassion that the only purpose of government will be as a coordinating body.  But that day is very far away.  When you confuse the “The New World Order” with a democratic world government you are misinterpreting what I am saying. Bush’s idea of a new world order is not based on reigning in national sovereignty, it is not based on holding leaders of state accountable for war crimes, and it is not based on a a world Bill of Rights, and Constitution.  He is talking about a world oligarchy, I am speaking of true democratic government.  As far as science and technology, I prefer to live in a world with electricity than one without.  I prefer to live in a world where cosmologists are recognizing the mysteries of the universe and expanding our knowledge than one in which people think the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth.  The environmental costs of technology are a serious problem, and moving as completely as possible to solar power and away from all fossil fuel usage will go a long way toward creating a non-polluting energy source. 

Who will run this global government?  I don’t know but I can tell you that the best legal minds, the most creative and serious scholars are already at work preparing the way for some kind of world law.  Try to separate your cynicism from what is actually necessary, what is actually good, and what is actually possible.  Give me an option other than global law that will reign in warmongers like Bush, Obama, and all the rest of the sociopathic leaders we’re now stuck with.  Give me an option other than global law that will reign in corporate profit-madness and global pollution that respects no boundaries.  Global law will also give rise to global unions so that workers in ALL countries will be protected from abuse and unfair exploitation. 

I am not naive enough to think this will happen next year, or next decade, or even next century.  But we must move in that direction or things will get worse, the plutocracy will become stronger and nationalism will only produce war after war after war as a “solution” to global problems. 

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By David J. Cyr, February 2, 2012 at 7:20 am Link to this comment

QUOTE, Jerry Gerber:

“Globalization cannot be stopped, it is evolutionary in nature and the world is increasingly interconnected via our communications…”
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All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace/

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By katsteevns, February 2, 2012 at 7:07 am Link to this comment

@ Jerry Gerber

If there weren’t any profit in it, do you think that people like George H.W. Bush would have even brought the subject up in the first place? I doubt it. Peace is the last thing on the mind of one who murdered 200,000 Iraqis. Except for politicians preaching the virtues, we might not even be talking about global government or a New World Order.

Science and technology start ups are mostly funded by you and I and we have no say in what gets created. Should I be thankful for that?!? The benefits of research are then turned over to private companies who reap the profits. We enjoy the benefits a a high price. A perfect example is the fate of solar, wind, tidal and electric vehicle technology which we desperately need.

You say we need global governance. Well, we have extensive international law already of which the US in the primary violator. They garner the legitimate legal use of force and violence upon anyone who gets in their way. Much blood has been spilled so you and I can speak across the miles in this way.

The question remains: Who will make this global government you speak of and better yet, who will enforce the laws, the elite owning class?

You can blame human nature all you like, but it is not the collective nature of humanity that has brought us to this point, but the ambitions of a privileged segment, the power wielders of society, those who first serve their own extravagant interests before considering the simple needs of the less fortunate.

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By horkheimer86, February 2, 2012 at 2:00 am Link to this comment
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What did happen to boring Canada? Did nobody see need to follow it because it wasn’t the hegemony?

I’m Canadian and I see that there is some sense of a dwarfed status next to America and a false sense of piety not caught up with a Harper Reality, where we still see ourselves as a Peacekeeping Nation in the vion of Lester B. Pearson but instead of our height of having thousands of such Peacekeepers, currently Canada quietly has only about 53 last I checked.

This erosion of Canada’s former reputation of being for the public good is not attributable only to the Conservatives. In fact, something much earlier started by our Democrats, the Liberals, as they were the ones who under Trudeau implemented the first of several attacks on reporting, as they attempted to control politics through mechanisms of public relations more enshrined in American history than Canadian. Trudeau shut down the process of media scrums on parliament in which Trudeau was answering difficult questions on that he wasn’t prepared for on his government’s response to the FLQ kidnapping of government officials in the name of Quebec liberation and Trudea in response implemented the War Measures Act, which sounds a little like in a lesser form of an earlier day what that NDAA thing Hedges is suing Obama for is, which essentially gave the government sweeping powers of arrest and detainment without trial. Canada’s government around this time also entered a cone of silence and got involved with the PR industry (catching up with the likes of the Eddie Bernays scene in America). Patrick Gossage, Trudeau’s Press Secretary wrote a book that uncritically though candidly recounts some of this clamp down on press freedoms through the banning of scrums which had politicians sometimes scrambling ad hoc for replies they weren’t ready for, and Trudeau’s slick replacement with government orchestrated weekly news conferences. The Liberal did this in some measure to guard themselves from the weak victory they received against The Progressive Conservatives under Joe Clark but the erosion of press freedoms weakened the democratic values the Liberals would then on be fighting for.

It is superfluous to point out how our Conservatives are like your Republicans but there was a time when our society was more open and our right was even less right wing than it is today. The death of our liberal Class has largely played its own part in Canada’s shift to a Draconian state for indigenous and eco activists like Leah Henderson and Alex Hundert, which a weak press is incapable of inquiring about in any case. Our Liberal Class here in Canada is the same as the Right, and it goes by preemptive war-mongering realpolitik logic with such recent figures as Michael Ignatief who argued for very things like torture in America at his time at the CATO institute, amongst other places like in his books, http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7578.html,/michael-ignatieff-lesser-evil. Our society because of our stance on Afghanistan has become more emboldened by a courageous warrior mythology and a press lost in its embrace of the luxuries provided by sidling up with big power, with itself in the process becoming a sea of petty careerists behaving like feckless fools out for stories where you are being given gifts in fact to cover them, so the brain turns to much and the voice gets louder when defending one’s career these days in Canadian reporting as a result. The CBC once did a half serious series on our fledging media in Canada(although disturbingly supporting these practices throughout) that today has become dominated by relying on pre-edited material actually supplied by corporate interest groups: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/spincycles/. Our democracy is run by the press the way a business like McDonalds sells hamburgers, and with that same business approach, Canada indeed has become a corporatocracy in its own right, so it was no wonder G20 was barely covered when it came about.

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By Anna kissed me, February 2, 2012 at 12:19 am Link to this comment
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Reading Emma Goldman’s essays on my new E’reader(they can be downloaded for free).

She was/is amazing,insightful,decent,courageous,perceptive and an Anarchist.

Chris Hedges sounds a lot like her.

Gotta get under their skin, gotta get in their heads, gotta flip the applecart over. So everyone can SHARE in the apples.

Australia will be another clone of the U.S.(like Canada) when the now ultra-conservative opposition assumes power. I say assume because they assume they are born to rule.

Anarchism means rules WITHOUT rulers.

We must continue planting the seeds of dissent and doubt.

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By katsteevns, February 1 at 8:59 pm Link to this comment

By Jerry Gerber, February 1 at 2:53 pm

“Globalization cannot be stopped, it is evolutionary in nature and the world is increasingly interconnected via our communications and transportation technologies, international culture and finance.”

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“The political analyst Michael Parenti argues against what you have stated by claiming that globalization is not a natural occurrence in the sense that you describe. He claims that it is a well planned and thought out process engaged in by transnational corporations in order to gain absolute control of markets. These people represent themselves and their class interest above and beyond the interests and needs of the vast majority of people on the planet.

  Culture may have the natural effect of bringing people together, though not always, but it is the financiers who are deliberately refashioning the world and the future to their advantage, gaining control of how humans will spend nearly every waking moment. And this without the consent of those whose lives will be effected.

Very UN-natural.”
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First we have to define what is “natural”, because I don’t know what you, or Mr. Parenti, whom I have met, mean by “natural”.  It is certainly humanly natural to expand one’s group, and one’s sense of belonging.  Humans began by associating in small groups, or bands, the family-bond strengthen these and soon clans, and later tribes began to form.  The rise of city-states and finally the modern nation-state evolved out of our very natural need for association, identification with others, as well as trade and modern commerce.

While it is true the modern corporation has exploited the very natural urge for humans to expand their association, this doesn’t mean that the greater inclusion of who is “in the group” is the problem, but rather the corporate exploitation itself. Which, once again, comes back to the concept of global governance.  If we don’t reign in transnational corporate power with transnational government (I am speaking here of a democratic government with checks and balances better than any national government has thus far come up with) then the exploitation of the environment, of labor and of human naivete will continue. 

Science and technology have also contributed mightily to globalization, the very fact that you can send an email, purchase goods, wire money around the world in an instant or have a discussion that you and I are having (I am in San Francisco)is proof of that. 

Our politics, ethics and our ability to re-define the purposes of government have simply not caught up with scientific and technological achievement, the for-profit corporate ethos of seeking ever-expanding profit steps in to fill the vacuum.  If you can think of another way we’re going to get a better world—a realistic way given human nature as it presently exists—I’m all ears.  Unless I become convinced otherwise, I’ll continue to see this path as the one that has the best chance to lead humanity out of the global lawlessness we are now experiencing and the suffering it produces.

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By Okasis, February 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm Link to this comment
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Christian96,
The President you are dreaming of is already in office, and has been for a long time. He is facing an election this year, but all the polls say he’s so popular that the Capitalist Opposition doesn’t stand much of a chance.

Unfortunately, He is the President of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez. It’s a shame the Constitution forbids him from running here. When I think about it, that is the one part of the Constitution the Cons insist on, just look at the ‘Birthers’.

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By Jerry Gerber, February 1 at 2:53 pm

“Globalization cannot be stopped, it is evolutionary in nature and the world is increasingly interconnected via our communications and transportation technologies, international culture and finance.”

    ———————

The political analyst Michael Parenti argues against what you have stated by claiming that globalization is not a natural occurrence in the sense that you describe. He claims that it is a well planned and thought out process engaged in by transnational corporations in order to gain absolute control of markets. These people represent themselves and their class interest above and beyond the interests and needs of the vast majority of people on the planet.

  Culture may have the natural effect of bringing people together, though not always, but it is the financiers who are deliberately refashioning the world and the future to their advantage, gaining control of how humans will spend nearly every waking moment. And this without the consent of those whose lives will be effected.

Very UN-natural.

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By christian96, February 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm Link to this comment

One of my best friends growing up in a West Virginia
coal mining community is Italian.  When his father
came to this country he worked as a barber all his
life.  Today, I got an e-mail from my friend with a
picture of President Obama on a food stamp certificate. I responded to his e-mail with the
following words, “You went out into the world made
some money and forgot where you came from.” I posted
the following on another site but believe them to
be appropriate here.

By christian96, 
Union Busting!  Why do you think Republicans worship Ronald Reagan and use his name throughout any type of election?  He was little David slaying that great Goliath, the unions.
What we need is a president who would unite the
unions to fight not only for a better life for working people in America but also fight to
establish unions in China and other countries that
are willing to sacrifice their workers at the altar
of the American corporations.  If we can find reasons to boycott Iran we can surely find reasons
to boycott countries that sacrifice their workers at
the altar of the god GREED. The first action of this
working class president should be to nationalize oil companies. What a great day for poor and working
class people that would be. Don’t hold your breath
waiting on that to happen.

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By Jerry Gerber, February 1, 2012 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

I’ll say it again, although I realize the cynical, nationalistic and un-imaginative among us will dismiss what I say:

Global problems require global government. Corporations, digital communication technologies, international finance, global environmental degradation—none of these respect national boundaries. National governments, no matter how powerful, cannot enforce the rule of law on the global level. We must move toward a democratic world government, with world courts, a world constitution, global law enforcement and, most importantly, a global bill of rights protecting and enhancing the civil, economic and environmental rights of all world citizens. If we don’t, corporations will continue to rule the world and control the politics and politicians of individual nations.

The other reason we so need global government is that a world democratic government can outlaw warfare and hold individual leaders of nations (and non-state terrorists) accountable for political violence. By demanding that nations resolve conflicts and disputes in international and regional courts, we can replace WAR with LAW—the only thing that can actually do so. All the peace marches in the world will not eliminate warfare until we do so with international law ratified by the nations of the world. No nation can be secure from war until ALL nations are secure from war.

Globalization cannot be stopped, it is evolutionary in nature and the world is increasingly interconnected via our communications and transportation technologies, international culture and finance. Local problems should be handled by local government, national problems by national governments, and global problems by global government. Our political and governmental institutions have to catch up—and this means global governance.

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By gerard, February 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

diman:  In times of aggression, anyone who talks about alternatives to violence will be condemned as “naive.”  Truth is more like this:  The United Nations was formed after a “war to end wars” and hasn’t done so because it has ethical standards but no power to enforce them. Consequently it has become the pawn of dominating interests and not much more than an ideal with little substance and a place to theoretically “get together.”
  It can be said that this is not the fault of its original designers but the result of domination by opposing “great powers” whose interests are in using it as a football. The “people of the world” in whoee interests it was founded have no way of directly getting together to participate in its decisions; they are either pawns or victims of the “great game” behind the “great powers.”  Money. Political domination. Militarism.
  Nevertheless they endure, and through some of the UN agencies like UNESCO and UNICEP and UNRA succeed in doing some good work. To that extent they are a successful experiment—the first in a dimly conceived but eventually necessary “world government.”  If you gag on that idea, you are far from alone. The goal, however, becomes ever more important and essential, and knowledge technologies are bringing it closer to reality decade by decade.
If it did not exist, it would be necessary to create it. Don’t knock it!  Someday something similar to it may save your grandchildren’s lives. At any rate, the idea won’t die, count on it.

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By diamond, February 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm Link to this comment

“Conservatism is Authoritarianism with a human face.’

Have you had a really good look at Dick Cheney’s face? Human? Debatable. For that matter look at Gingrich’s face or Romney’s or Santorum’s or Paul’s. They all look like crazed zombies who have so much money they’ve ceased to think like human beings. The only person running for president who actually has a human face is Obama. The lizard people haven’t got him yet, but no one is immune.

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By TAGGLINE, February 1, 2012 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment

To: JL…I so feel that sentiment. Hedges’ books ‘Death
of The Liberal Class’ and ‘Empire of Illusion…’ are
so spot-on, speak exactly to these issues, and they
should be required reading in every Poli-Sci class in
every ‘institute of higher learning’. His Lecture
“Calling All Rebels” speaks the truth about what it’s
going to take when that other shoe does, indeed,
drop…It may already have when we “helped” the Iraqi’s
hang Saddam.

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By JL, February 1, 2012 at 9:13 am Link to this comment
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All of North America, indeed the world, will soon be in the clutches of globalist corporations who seek to dissolve national sovereignty and crush dissent into a New World Order. 

We are on the verge of WW3, global depression, and the nation is STILL sedated by the talking heads.  When will the other shoe drop?  What will be the pebble that finally breaks the ice?  Did we already have our Archduke Ferdinand?

Whatever it is… it is rapidly approaching.  Be prepared or be rounded up by the coming police state.

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By diman, February 1, 2012 at 7:11 am Link to this comment

What happened to Canada? Nothing. And this is the problem.

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By diman, February 1, 2012 at 7:09 am Link to this comment

GERARD - You are so naive, it is unbelievable.The “United Nations is a transitional example whose benefits we enjoy and from whose errors we are learning—gradually but surely” Tell that to Iraquis, they ave been enjoying these benefits for almost 15 years now, tell that to people in Burma, people in Darfur,people in Somalia and we can go on forever. What are the benefits Gerard??? And what have we learned from the errors???

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By katsteevns, February 1, 2012 at 6:07 am Link to this comment

By Alan MacDonald, January 30 at 7:05 am

“Obama is clearly the Global “Vichy” Empire’s first choice as the world’s best deceiving cheer-leader for continuing on this path to extinction via lulling Americans into sleep.”
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We have been asleep for quite some time. Evidenced by the wars and proxy wars of this nations history all the way back to The Spanish-American War. Fingering Obama is useless.


    Most of the so-called 99% actually prefer to remain in a slumber. Because those who are outraged at our nations character are far from the 99%. They might consist of maybe 2% in real numbers.

    The status quo(fueled by fear and worthlessness) will determine the course of the US’s future as it has determined our previous history on the whole. The quality of the attention being given the next election tells us as much.

  If there was a mass movement to toss all televisions and mainstream newspapers out the window, then I would say there is still hope yet to turn this train around. God knows it ain’t no Peace Train.

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By katsteevns, February 1, 2012 at 4:30 am Link to this comment

@ diamond

Conservatism is Authoritarianism with a human face.

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By Bobby, February 1, 2012 at 1:02 am Link to this comment
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Mr. Hedges article simply labels him as another “CLUELESS” so-called PROGRESSIVE. You figure it out. My definition of a progressive, is anyone that pretends to care about the environment,crime,free speech,peace,harmony and goodwill—then does everything in his/her power to prevent those things by the policies they advocate. Unlimited immigration,(at a time the economy is collapsing)no concern for the law by supporting illegal immigration and all the damage it does to American citizens jobs, wages, safety. Advocating 32 different language voting ballets,(how does that bring people together, advocating multiculturalism,how does that bring people together) rather than assimilation.etc.(read professor Putnams work)

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By Marcus Riedner, January 31, 2012 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment
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Some in Canadian academic and political circles are calling Canada to be the next super power.

Oh the hubris of man, especially the really comfortable man with central air and an Escalade.

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By Haudenosaun, January 31, 2012 at 9:06 pm Link to this comment

Chris is right.

This fight is global. Unfortunately many citizens in other counties don’t realize
it yet.  As a Canadian, his comments were no surprise to me.  Canada is being
absorbed into the American Empire, and it must comply.  The Perimeter
Agreement, preceded by the S.P.P. agreement, will eventually see our various
government departments such as environmental protection, Health (just to
name a few) merged.

Our P.M. is buying planes and Canada is in possession of at least 1 U.S. drone.
P.M. is also interested in purchasing some nuclear subs. Canadian Govt. is
investing $477m in U.S. military satellite system. O.K. maybe we need a few
new planes and subs, but a military satellite system?  There’s an awful lot of
money to be made here.

“Canada’s Budget Watchdog Warns Fiscal Structure Not Sustainable”,
“Conservative Government says Old Age Security Pension Is Unsustainable” and
Canadian govt. is in the process of tinkering with health care.  The bottom line
is that our social programs, like those around the globe, are not profitable.

2 E.U. countries are now being governed by UNELECTED bureaucrats to force
through austerity measures.  Will Spain and Portugal be next?  Should we care
what happens in Europe?  Yes, because these types of unions that not only
ignore referendums but draw up their own constitutions, are detrimental to
democracy.

We are being governed globally by the corporate and financial elites.  Therefore,
our answer to them must be global.

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By TAGGLINE, January 31, 2012 at 9:01 pm Link to this comment

Written during GWB’s farce of a Presidency…but still rings true today

Storm Warning (It’s Coming) 
Ooh, it’s coming…
Like the Gates of Hell…unleashed a wellspring full of
pain,
Man, I mean…It’s coming..
Been bought and sold…for a bucket of gold…
The game’s so old …it’s stinkin’ to high, high heaven
Yeah, it’s coming
Like the Profiteer’s deliverin’ fear to any fool
who’ll take a dare…
And brother, don’t they just come, come a’ running
And politicians on that hill, send sons and daughters
off to kill
Tellin’ lies and livin’ thrills, (ooo, ain’t they got
cunning?!)

And the Preacher Man with the Family Klan
Said “these here ain’t in heaven’s plan,
And the Old Crow’s tryin’ to take a stand…so, get
burnin’ “
He said “they ain’t my cross to bear now,                                     
get them demons out of here”
“We can start out with This Boy right here…get
runnin’”

Yeah, it’s coming
Well, the Profiteer had a private joke
While Katrina screamed and the levee’s broke
(He’s flyin’ high and blowing smoke…and spinnin’)
Canal, St Charles, Carondolet, The Mississippi…
Ponchartrain
Good God, it all got blown away…y’all start swimmin’

Oh yeah, it’s coming…
Then the talking head stood on that stage…
A bloated, foul and phony knave
Whipped the folk into a rage with blaring.
It shouted out, “Let’s Burn it Down”
Cuz pain is all that’s in this town
And, violence…Oh Lord, it’s coming
Oh,ya better believe it’s coming”

But, The Teacher spoke in metaphor,
To calm them growling dogs of war
And set aside the bloodlust that was churnin’

Sayin’, “Look to Love to find New Wine,
‘Cause Hell’s crop’s dying on the vine…
Your faith in faith will heal you, oh, I’m certain… “

“Child, history has taught us well…
So, save yourself from foolish hell
And tap into the fountain of forgiving;
Start living, oh… living”

Still, alone we cry at night
For love alone to shine that light
And save us from our loneliest winters

“Discovery means to look within…
Inherit joy when you learn to learn
The lessons, that, for us were…surely, surely sent
here
(surely, surely sent here…)”

So, look toward Hope, That Joyous Thing,
Toll those bells…The Earth will sing !! …
These chains of bondage just a thing of… Mem’ries

Let Freedom Ring,
Let Freedom Ring,

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By Godkiller, January 31, 2012 at 7:56 pm Link to this comment
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Why is Mexico never an option? It’s the other neighbor. It’s poorer but it beats living in a police state like the US and Canada. Just don’t be a wondering idiot looking like you have a lot of money and know which places are dangerous. I’m sure you could find a job as an English teacher down there.

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By examinator, January 31, 2012 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment

Chris,
Sounds like you need a good dose of banality ....move to Australia, I did. “It’s sorta has what Canada had but different…the wine’s better too. Oh yes…not as cold.

Cheers

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By radson, January 31, 2012 at 3:55 pm Link to this comment

Correction ‘Threat of a new King’
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By radson, January 31, 2012 at 3:46 pm Link to this comment

Chris : I assume you had an interesting time in Montreal ,it is a very vibrant and culturally diverse city especially with the uniqueness of the Quebecois .The Harper Government does promote the Neo-con agenda and is a firm believer in the so-called quest for Globalization which many Quebecois are aware of .The interesting change in the French Canadian electorate with regards to the last Federal election campaign is rather self explanatory with the defeat of the Bloc Quebecois and the rejection of Mr. Harper in favor of Jack Layton .Now its a shame that what Mr. Layton had built has succumbed to yet another Cancer and now the Party is uncertain as to its future.

During the 2007 G-20 Summit in Montebello Qc it is interesting to note that the ‘Peaceful Protesters’ -yes they were peaceful-, were supplanted by an intentional provocation by the Canadian Police ,which attempted
to turn the peaceful demonstration into a violent one ,by inciting violence .This violent provocation by the police was exposed by the protestors that had participated in the event and later a member had an opportunity to express his views of the events -or manipulation of the events- on The Current ’ Anna-Maria Tremonti- now if my memory serves me right the host .Anna-Maria was dumbfounded by the allegations that the Police had actually initiated the Violence to the detriment of the protesters ,of which Madame Tremonti responded with here characteristic sigh ‘Hmmmm’ ,but eventually the truth was that the Police ‘were’ the instigators.During the G-8 Summit in Toronto ,one would think that the lessons of Montebello would be remembered and actually they were ,but not for promoting social justice but more in line with how could the Police improve on their mistakes and make it more convincing to improve their policing skills .Well what turned out was over a thousand citizens being arrested on a multitude of fabrications to justify the exorbitant
security bill of roughly One Billion Dollars to protect a handful of Quislings ,that could have held their meeting on Anticosti Island for a fraction of the cost and avoided the trouble ;but in hindsight ‘trouble ’ is a profitable proposition somewhat like the Israeli Palestinian issue.

Chris I do agree that the People, regardless of creed, colour or Religion must unite in this struggle against Corporatist Globalization and the monetization of the Planet .Globalization in a more benign definition is a conceptual possibility but the two underlining detriments at the moment are the two Mediums of control one of which is oil -and NO it is not a fossil fuel with a bullshit peak-and the other is money which can be replaced with the concept of self sustainability .I always wondered why in the Bible that the rulers had to kill all the Children because of the treat of a new King .


cheers

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By ControlledDemolition, January 31, 2012 at 3:35 pm Link to this comment

CORPORATIONS HAVE NO USE FOR BORDERS

recalls my quip “People are corporations, too!” used to triangulate the Orwellian doublespeak of “Citizens United.”  But maybe people don’t have use for borders, either.  Let us label such characters Case A, the humanists.  In this (dear bloggers), what is needed is not a Global Government to insure the regulation of even-handed fairness but instead a Global Mind at least broad enough to empathize with one’s fellow beings; hence Case A.  And there are lots of people working globally locally, without boundaries.  But let us grant the possibility of Case B, the situation in which people have filtered humanity’s vastness to such an extent that some people don’t even reach the level of empathy required to gain the status of being human.  (This has to do with spiritual awakening, but I’ll forego that.)  Instead they fall into the category of those unlucky ones whom Fate (or Doom) has chosen, those beyond some border, or a violator of some legal restriction imposed by society (sic) and hence fodder for the burgeoning incarceration industry.  The existential “other.”  Case B is obviously a non-empty set; I can think of the big banks and sadistic military rulers.  Materialism comes first, and all others default.  Yo, that’s you dude.  That’s your sorry status.

Or someone similar.  I like the international comradeship of condition in the article (Case A).  But to whine against Chris’ realism, I’d like to live in a country where war criminals are prosecuted and those who expose the war crimes are honored, speaking of Bradley Manning.  Or maybe you are Case B and don’t see how that Wikileaks video of the military helicopter gunning down the walking Iraqis, depicts a war crime?  To do so, a certain amount of empathy is required which you might not be capable of, with a dose of rationality to examine things clearly, which you also might not be capable of.  Or what about the clear argument that shows the insider nature (nano-thermite, for example) of the war crime of 911?  Therefore, anyone who decides that the steelframe 47-story Bldg 7 (google the video if you have to) did—in actual fact, did—collapse in 6.5 secs due to moderate fires on only two floors, need not reply.

The problem is, How can Truth, like 911, OWS, and other issues, find a crack in the ubiquitous 24-7-365 news infomercials?  We don’t need a Global Government populated with Case B individuals, we need open free communication systems first and foremost—like this here Internet—so I urge you to find extra time to sign that next petition (ACTA, SOPA) and fight earnestly to guarantee that it (the Internet) is not handed over to Case B types by other Case B types.  The Internet is a vital organ in this Global Mind analogy, contrasting the Global Government notion that would maintain law and order by sending the Riot Police to a neighborhood near you.

Peace out.

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By felicity, January 31 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment

“Forgot to mention who’s sitting at the right hand of
that benevolent deity, the Free Market, the equally
benevolent free market guru of the Right - Milton
Friedman.

“Corporations have no business engaging in socially
beneficial acts.  They have no social responsibility. They are only responsible for making as much profit as possible.”


You’re giving me the impression that the above quote is by Milton Friedman.  Is it, or did you make it up? I could not verify the source doing a Google search.

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By felicity, January 31, 2012 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

Forgot to mention who’s sitting at the right hand of
that benevolent deity, the Free Market, the equally
benevolent free market guru of the Right - Milton
Friedman.

“Corporations have no business engaging in socially
beneficial acts.  They have no social responsibility. 
They are only responsible for making as much profit as
possible.”

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By diamond, January 31, 2012 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

The global economy and its corporate masters are now an out of control juggernaut. In Britain, David Cameron and that silly boy that leads the Liberal Democrats are presiding over a situation that almost defies belief:

1. Families reported a drop of 46 pounds sterling $68 a month in their incomes last year. This has led to the rise of the ‘payday lenders’ to help pay the bills, ‘at an interest rate of 4000 per cent’. No that’s not an error, it’s 4000 per cent.

2. Many workers, especially those in the public sector have had their wages slashed VAT (goods and services tax) has gone up. The cost of food, petrol and public transport has risen. A cleaning woman said she spent 1 and a half hours on the bus to get to her job because it was cheaper than catching the train, even though the train was three times as fast.

3. Unemployment is at 8.3 per cent and is predicted to rise to 2.9 million people by Christmas this year. Growth for 2012 is predicted at 0.2 per cent. Business confidence is at its lowest level in 2 and a half years.

4. Also coming are family tax and benefits cuts which the Family and Parenting Institute says will see a real income drop of 4.2 per cent per household by 2016. The Campaign to End Child Poverty claims more than 52 per cent of children living in the poorest areas of Britain are living in real poverty and the cuts will lead to ‘economic and social disaster’. This is 2.5 million children and that number could be 3.3 million by 2020.

5. Just when effective welfare is needed the government is slashing 18 billion pounds sterling from the welfare budget and introducing ‘welfare to work’ - except that there are no jobs so that’s a dead end.

6. Libraries have closed, street lighting has been turned off, there have been cuts to hospital and police funding, public sector pensions are being slashed, university fees have tripled, Legal Aid and Disability Living Allowance are being ‘eviscerated’.

(From ‘Keep a Stiff Upper Lip, Summer’s on the Way’, Dan Hatch, Sydney Morning Herald)

All of this is straight out of the Margaret Thatcher playbook and the British have five long years to experience buyer’s remorse for electing a cobbled- together coalition of the shilling. It’s no coincidence that poverty in America is also at historically high levels and similar slash and burn policies to those in Britain are being forced on Europe by the IMF. How long it will take voters to connect the dots remains a mystery.

Conservative= austerity
Austerity   = poverty

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By gerard, January 31, 2012 at 10:28 am Link to this comment

Something needs emphasis here regarding “borders.”
Radicalism, no matter whether left, right, religious, political, economic, ethnic, “knows no borders.”  That is the primary characteristic of radicalism. That is what makes radicalism dangerous; it allows for no argument, no doubt, no change, no differences.

That said, capitalism unleashed without regulation—profit seeking at all costs, is radicalism by its very nature. That is why it is a problem for 99$ of us. That is why it cannot moderate itself, rein in its excesses, join the 99% of economic moderates who can be satisfied with less than everything. Militarism is similar; empire-building, likewise.

All kinds of borders must be respected if we are going to live togther, cultural borders, spiritual borders, physical borders, emotional borders. One certain problem with force is its lack of respect for borders; enough power is never enough; no weapon is ever “good” enough; there’s always a “better” one on the drawing board.

Respect for borders is a necessary choice. It doesn’t “come natural” but must be “seen” as preferable, and “realized” as better than its alternative. Broken treaties illustrate how hard it is to maintain respect for borders—hard, but not impossible.And essential to what we call “progress.”

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By balkas, January 31, 2012 at 8:54 am Link to this comment

felicity,
i don’t think that nationalism or ethnocentrism is wrong at this stage of panhuman
development; provided it goes in the direction away from ethocentrism/nationalism.
it is the uebernationalism as exepmlified by most european lands or, rather, their
onepercent, that is extremely evil.
ethnic attitudes expressed with words such, evil bolshevism, deutschland ueber alles,
god bless america, greatness of america, the only good indian is a dead indian, godless
or evil socialism/socialists/communists, etc. are, to me, great evils.
what does one think when one hears the words “god bless america”. i feel terror and
horrors. and to you? doesn’t it melt your heart? i hope not!!  but it does that to probably
98% of american pop!
that’s lots of political capital for any prez. and each then goes on perpetrating at least
one butchery of totally innocent people.

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By balkas, January 31, 2012 at 8:34 am Link to this comment

kazi,
the socalled jews of europe have no connection with hebrews. hebrews were a
shemitic people just like nabateans, phoenicians [todays lebanese], canaanites, 
judeans, moabites, edomites, hittites, assyrians [these last still living in syria] et al.
so, some of us call euro-asians with masaic [mosheic] fath or cult “ashkenazim”. in
shemitic languages the plural for names is “im”.
however, ALL are, to me, cultists and thus my enemy. i want to be left in peace and
no cultist would allow me that!!! and, i am not antishemitic but shemitophil. thanks

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By Gregory L Kruse, January 31, 2012 at 8:19 am Link to this comment
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It’s great to see so many comments to Hedges’ article, and almost all of them are at least rational. I don’t know enough to be either optimistic or pessimistic about the chances that he, Henderson, and all the resisters put together can slow the juggernaught by throwing their bodies under the wheels.  I fear that it already has momentum enough to roll a long way, and it was built up while I was growing up.  Though I am doing what little I am able to do now by supporting media such as Truthdig, Truthout, ConsortiumNews, The Real News Network, FDL,and others, along with political figures who at least seem to sense the danger, I fear most for what my children may have to do to either survive or to resist.  They are growing up with fewer illusions than I did, and they will have to make the harder choices those of us who grew up in a more liberal nation never had to make.

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By balkas, January 31, 2012 at 8:16 am Link to this comment

it is not the govt[s] or world govt we MUST have [and define the govt in an way you
want to] it is GUIDANCE/TUTORING/MANAGING that we MUST have if we are to
become fully human.
and, of course, along INTERDEPENDENCE between people and peoples.
what we had up to now and for the last 8 k yrs was utter DIKTATORSHIP of the rich
people and as epitomized by US. thanks,  bozhidar balkas, planet earth

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By Wozzek, January 31, 2012 at 7:36 am Link to this comment
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Albert Camus said that the day would come when fascism (the plague) “would raise up its rats again and send them to die in a happy city.”

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By IMax, January 31, 2012 at 5:54 am Link to this comment

“Kill the police”. “F**k the police.” - Peaceful Occupy Oakland protester Jan. 28, 2012

These Occupy protests don’t attract violence against middle class, blue collar, Americans. - MASSIVE (insane) rationalization by Occupy supporters.

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By david tarbuck, January 31, 2012 at 2:18 am Link to this comment
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davidtarbuck
Occupy 99% is just as relevant in Canada as anywhere; maybe more now that we have a two-bit neo-fascist Prime Minister and a Cabinet of fundamentalist hatchet men. Pimps for the International 1% of corporate power.

Thse types like their hero, Adolf Hitler always self distruct; their very philosophy is simply long range unsustainable,but the damage they do before and during this self immolation, what they can and do pull down with them, is the tragety.

Where is my Canada that 30 years ago had MORE helicopters in the Ministries of health than in the military; they were WHITE not green? Or even three years ago when,while Reverend Jones was threatening to burn Qur’ans a Prefab Mosque was trucked by mainstream Canadians to the shores of the Artic Ocean. Where will be my Canada of pristine coasts and waterways when Big Oil runs amok as they alwaysdo per Valdese, Gulf of Mexico and Niger Delta? All of above will likely disappear and await the coming of the end of the Capitalist Epoch to be reserected;at least that part of the distruction that IS reversable? .

Unfortunately Canadians lag Americans at this point in recognising the dangers inherent in this type of governance.

Would that we could learn from the USA ideas of incarceration (much for minor torts) on a mass scale does not work, but NO we are not rigorisely opposing stupidity that will result in a near doubling of prison populations.

“Tough on crime” is the clarion call of those who blame the victims for the dispair inflicted upon them by forces above anfd beyond their control.

&C>&C.

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By gerard, January 30, 2012 at 8:10 pm Link to this comment

American Lion:  A site

  http://surveyfactory.net’s'808/occupysupply

lists about 200 current Occupy actions large and small emphasizing a great variety of significant community political concerns.  So in case you think they are doing nothing, take a look. At presemt it appears to be holding its place of national importance though still hounded by over-armed police. The national media are’nt giving them the sensational coverage they first got, and perhaps that is just as well.  I’m sure at the local level they are still highly relevent. What about your local area? Keep your eye on Firedoglake.org for updates.

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By agelbert, January 30, 2012 at 7:25 pm Link to this comment

Canada, the country that has the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) enforcing native land theft, genocide, cultural destruction and kidnapping of children and the subsequent use of many of those children for sex rings (to this day!) along with many murders and hidden burials on religious school grounds is a cesspool of bigotry. The RCMP is protecting a group of perverts and murderers in high government positions and the religious hierarchy, not to mention the logging company executives that have benefited from the ONGOING land theft.

Chris, talk to this brave pastor that defied his own church and the government of Canada to tell the truth if you want to know the unvarnished truth about Canada. In the free documentary at this web site he explains how the guise of benevolence in Canada was ALWAYS a lie.

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/

Feature length documentary film: “UNREPENTANT: Kevin Annett and Canada’s Genocide” (January 2007).

The fact that now European descended white Canadians are now feeling the whip is to be expected when for over a century they sat mutely by (at best) while atrocities were being committed. The evil has simply grown beyond the abuse of natives. When unchecked, this is what evil always does.

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By Okasis, January 30, 2012 at 6:17 pm Link to this comment
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One of the worst arguments my late husband and I ever had was over Nationalism and Patriotism. It was also one of the most memorable, since most couples argue over money and the kids. I took the anti-view, while Patrick could not quite forget all those WW2 Propaganda flics. On his death bed, he told me that he still disagreed with me - all those years he remained silent to preserve the peace.

That is how pervasive and corrosive those concepts are to the worker bees of any country. Among all our other prejudices we have to work at uprooting that belief that one country is better than another. Just like people, there is no ‘better’ or superior, just different…

While I agree with Hedges, I wonder about the blinders he and other commentators have, when they are discussing Global Issues. I took Tom Dispatch to task for the same mindset.

All these words, and no mention at all of Latin America! Is that huge continent to the South invisible when US writers discuss Indigenous Peoples, Colonialism, Political Upheaval, and in this case, Canadian Corporate Crimes.

Yes, the Inuits and others in Canada are being abused, displaced, and poisoned by the mining and logging and energy interests that have become huge players on the world stage. But, if I was seeking allies in this fight, I would talk to the people in Bolivia, Peru, Chile, Argentina, Venezuela, Mexico and most of the other counties in Central and South America.

These people have seen their villages ruined, the waters poisoned, their health threatened, and their livelihood destroyed, by Canadian Mining Firms who have signed contracts with the local Plutocracy. We are not talking about small sums here, or peoples in truly distant lands…

Oops, I may have identified the real problem: These are not exotic people living far away that we can blow off with a small check and a ‘So Sorry’.

No, these are our neighbors, and we know them well. They are those dirty Mexicans we are deporting in increasing numbers. We are building EIGHTEEN FOOT HIGH Walls to keep them out of our pristine land which we all know is Number One in all the World, the home of true Exceptionalism. And, when all else fails, we incarcerate the kids.

It really would be nice if some of these exceptional Journalists who want to right the wrongs in the Mid-East and Asia and Africa and Europe would visit our nearest neighbors.

But then they would not have 3000 miles of water between them and the problem, it’s right next door.

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By Trojan Horus, January 30, 2012 at 6:15 pm Link to this comment
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Hmmm… so how does a Judge discriminate between the illegal “conspiring to mischief” and the legal constitutional “right to protest” I wonder? And as part of G20 security preparations, police spied on a diverse range of advocacy and political organizations. Targets included Greenpeace, the immigration advocacy group No One Is Illegal and independent journalists. Has there been any legal challenge to that activity and if you were looking for a conspiracy wouldn’t that more easily qualify?

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By GreenLeaf, January 30, 2012 at 6:11 pm Link to this comment
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Great article!!  Thanks because this can be used to explain to those that don’t understand the invasion on our south border.

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By Paul Watkins, January 30, 2012 at 5:04 pm Link to this comment
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It’s the sell-out and privatization of western
governments to globalist corporate power…
Democracy is quickly becoming a worthless sham and
we’re witnessing a complete clampdown on our human
rights and freedom of expression…We are slowly being
dismantled. “Occupy” is the fightback, we must all
stand behind it.

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By Joeys, January 30, 2012 at 5:00 pm Link to this comment

Chris,

Please consider coming up to Ottawa and sharing your voice with us. Perhaps on
the day Leah is released, or perhaps even sooner. You have many supporters up
here. Corptacracies heavy grip knows no border and neither should your brilliant
and passionate discourses.

Joey

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By Steve-O, January 30, 2012 at 4:21 pm Link to this comment
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Overblown. This is the pattern up here: Liberals run
the country for a dozen years or so, the ppl get fed
up with the typical shenanigans that any party who
holds power for too long inevitably get involved in,
they vote in the Conservatives for a cup of coffee,
and the Cons helpfully remind everyone why we elected
Liberals for so long in the first place. Rinse,
repeat.

The cons are in the middle of doing their best to
ensure they’ll be in the minority for another dozen
years or so, come the next election. The left will
need to regroup and reorganize, and they will. Canada
remains far to the left of America overall. Just look
at the social issues (gay marriage, universal health
care, freedom of choice, etc) - is anyone arguing
that Canada is in any way comparable? If so please
cite examples.

And one last thing - the oil sands (tar sands
whatever) are a resource that ought to be exploited
for the benefit of all Canadians. That it should be
done in as clean and environmentally-friendly way as
possible goes without saying ...but to ignore this on
the basis of pure ideology is, my mind, short-sighted
and cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face. IMO

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By Myshkin, January 30, 2012 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

Fierce as winter’s tempest
Cold as the smoth’ring snow
On grind the mills of Avarice
High rides the cruel-eyed foe. . . .
Where is the hand of mercy,
Where is the kindly face,
Where in this heedless slaughter
Find we the promis’d place?
Sweated, despised and hearthless,
Scorned ‘neath the banker’s boot,
We freeze by their frost-bound windows—-
As they fondle their blood-bought loot—-
Love never spared a sinner,
Hate never cured a saint,
Soon is the night of reckoning,
Then let no heart be faint,
Teach us to fly from shelter
Teach us to love the cold,
Life’s for the free and fearless—-
Death’s for the bought and sold!

—Thomas Pynchon, from “Against the Day”

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By caped amigo, January 30, 2012 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment

I’m with you Chris, totally willing to shed my national identity. I’m so disgusted
with our American governance. I’m shocked about Canada and it’s an ominous
sign. Thank you for the reporting.

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By Textynn, January 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm Link to this comment
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I believe that this will be the year of the Witch Hunt.  The racism as tool of the elite has already become nauseatingly deep.  People wanting to appeal to the elite powers are flaunting their willingness to say the most horrendous racist things. The amoral Newtster comes to mind.

The old and the young will be villainized, the gay, the Latino,the black and, of course, women, and always the poor, the wrong kind of Christian, and so on and so forth.

We must be ready and have our thinking caps on at all times as not to be lured into this easy trap. Judge people by their actions, not the words of others. Be vigilant and be ready.  UNITED WE STAND STONG!! and believe me TPTB know it.

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By Jerry Gerber, January 30, 2012 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment

“If the individual is sovereign, then what the devil would a “world government” do? Politely ask everybody to be nice? Without coercive power, against individuals, to back it up, the state is impotent. With coercive power to back it up, it’s tyrannical.”

You’re viewing it in black and white: Either a government has coercive power and is tyrannical, or it is impotent.  Nothing in between?  What are Bills of Rights and Constitutions for then?  Calling for a World Constitution and Global Bill of Rights is now necessary, the world is far too interconnected for anything else to work as well.  We need BETTER government, not NO government.  Right now we have anarchy and lawlessness on the global level, we have “International Law”, but is has not real power to hold individuals accountable (although we’re beginning to by arresting heads of states of small states, but someone like Dick Cheney cannot get arrested yet because we don’t have real world law yet). 

And the “sovereignty of the planet?” What is that!?

Planetary Sovereignty simply means that for one nation to be secure from the ravages of war, ALL nations must be equally secure.  Again, global law is the answer, in spite of the many reactionaries, cynics and the less-imaginative among us who declare otherwise. 

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By diamond, January 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm Link to this comment

Voters lost the power of their vote the day corporations and not national governments got the power to make decisions that influence intimate details of how we live our lives. What has happened to Canada is simple: they elected conservatives. This always has bad consequences and it is a mystery to me why otherwise intelligent voters continue to do it. They made the same mistake in Sweden. The left in Canada needs to regroup and unite as a matter of urgency if they are not to allow Harper and cronies to turn Canada into America lite complete with its own Guantanamo Bays. Oil must be in even shorter supply than many of us suspect because they are now doing crazy things that only desperate people would do. The fracking disaster is but one example of the dangerous, reckless behaviour the energy corporations are now involved in. As for Joe Lieberman, he is not a man: he is a psychotic disease.

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By entropy2, January 30, 2012 at 3:17 pm Link to this comment

@Jerry Gerber—too much nonsense in your post to pick apart in one go—but this stood out:

My argument is that there are two levels of absolute sovereignty, the sovereignty of the individual and the sovereignty of the planet.

If the individual is sovereign, then what the devil would a “world government” do? Politely ask everybody to be nice? Without coercive power, against individuals, to back it up, the state is impotent. With coercive power to back it up, it’s tyrannical.

And the “sovereignty of the planet?” What is that!?

Then…

That’s what most people with little or no imagination say about everything:  going to the moon, interracial and same-sex marriage, etc.  They cannot imagine it until it happens, and then they accept it as though it has always been so.  Open your mind a bit.

Believe me, it’s not that I can’t imagine a global government, it’s that I’d rather not contemplate the destruction such a horror could (would!) visit on humanity.

Seriously, I know you obviously care about people and about the Earth, but bigger and bigger hierarchies will not achieve peace and plenty.

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By Lumpenproletarier, January 30, 2012 at 3:14 pm Link to this comment

“It is clear that the skills that make us strong, the
alternatives that reduce our reliance on their systems
and prefigure a new world, are the very things that
they are most afraid of.” - Leah Henderson

If Leah and her pals want to make a new world, I
suggest that they go make it, and stop wasting time
protesting against the old world; i.e. smashing windows
and burning police cars.

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By Puamana, January 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm Link to this comment

In the end, Chris is correct.  We can sit on our hands, or work as hard as we can to use the one free forum available to us (the internet - free for how long?) to expose the rancid underbelly of unfettered crony capitalism and the bankrupt system of financial manipulation, fraud and debt we are all trapped in, whether we live in Canada, the US, Egypt or elsewhere.  We are ONE, and the very survival of the human species is at stake.

Make no mistake.  They will use any means at their disposal, from propaganda, brainwashing and torture to violent confrontations in the streets.  Their violence only underscores their fear of the ‘truth’ getting out, and their resulting loss of control.

To Paraphrase Niemöller:

First they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the Blacks
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Black.

Then they came for the Latinos
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Latino.

Then they came for the Whistleblowers
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Whistleblower.

Then they came for the Unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Unionist.

Then they came for the Occupiers
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Occupier.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

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By Jerry Gerber, January 30, 2012 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment

By LocalHero, January 30 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment

“Congratulations Jerry Gerber, you win the prize for the dumbest thing written this month.

If you actually believe that the same corporatocracy that created our problems in the first place should be unleashed and allowed to become a crushing, global monstrosity/state, well, you’re the Pollyanna of the do-gooder elite.”

Mr. “local hero”: If you understood what I said you might contribute to the discussion a little more intelligently.  I will repeat:  A Democratic global government with a bill of rights. What is your solution to global issues?  Do you think that nations, even the most powerful, can solve these issues?  Do you think corporations running the world is going to advance peace and justice?  Or are you one of these types who think we can dispense of government altogether?  Give an example of a solution instead of resorting to childish name calling.

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By kazy, January 30, 2012 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment
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balkas Ashkenazim? What an antiquated word to use. Oh, now I get it. Palestinians - Middle eastern. Ashkenazim - not Middle Eastern? Wrong.

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By LocalHero, January 30, 2012 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

“Global problems require global government.”

Congratulations Jerry Gerber, you win the prize for the dumbest thing written this month.

If you actually believe that the same corporatocracy that created our problems in the first place should be unleashed and allowed to become a crushing, global monstrosity/state, well, you’re the Pollyanna of the do-gooder elite.

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If you’re not trolling, then you’re delusional.

The delusion is yours.  All great thinkers, including Albert Einstein, understood the evolutionary nature of sovereignty.  The family, the clan, the city-state, the nation-state—all these are consequences of the evolution of sovereignty.  My argument is that there are two levels of absolute sovereignty, the sovereignty of the individual and the sovereignty of the planet.  Every other level of sovereignty is relative.  Before you judge and dismiss what you do not understand, you should read up a bit about global governance.  What we have now is global anarchy, and it clearly is not working.

The problem in our world is too much concentrated power—NOT too little. 

It’s not about “too much” or “too little”.  It is about Global Law.

To think that, first, we can come up with The One Big Rule Book that is going to be provide liberty, justice and abundance to 7 billion individuals and THEN, that we can make sure to keep the crooks, the sociopaths and the idiots out of this super-state is sheer utopian lunacy.

That’s what most people with little or no imagination say about everything:  going to the moon, interracial and same-sex marriage, etc.  They cannot imagine it until it happens, and then they accept it as though it has always been so.  Open your mind a bit.

Back to the drawing board.

Yes, go back to study…

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By gerard, January 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

... and the irony is that corporations, in spite of all their ugly, benighted selfishness,  have helped to make all this possible.  Maybe corporations will decide to renounce the crafty Supreme Court edict that “corporations are people” whose money will be allowed to ruin democracy, and decide that after all they really ARE people and will choose to stand with the 99% of the human race instead of against it!
  (Stranger things happen every day.)

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By gerard, January 30, 2012 at 2:05 pm Link to this comment

The idea stating the need for a democratic world governing body is being attempted every day the sun rises. The United Nations is a transitional example whose benefits we enjoy and from whose errors we are learning—gradually but surely. It is on the edge of tomorrow; nation-states are yesterday.
  People who yearn for a better world safe from wars and exploitation, a world that upholds mercy, wisdom and cooperation, are in the very process of creating possible tomorrows. Technology is pushing us almost faster than we can learn.
  Some people are even choosing to risk their lives to help move us all away from present-day insanities. The most creative possibilities at present are springing up from beyond governments (which are mostly fighting a losing battle to maintain old power in old ways).
  It is encouraging that “top level” world conferences of “authoritis” on all important issues are being besieged by ordinary people trying to get their voices heard.  Even though “policed”, they are succeeding as they bring law suits to reinforce the validity of ancient hard-earned civil rights.
  It took Julian Assange (in spite of being unjusly imprisoned) to arrange for a series of qualified
“citizens of the world” to broadcast worldwide, in February, their ideas for saving human beings from destroying each other. Russian TV will be the venue. The highest echelons of ruling “parties” in China, the U.S., Egypt, India, the humblest village head in “darkest"Africa and the poorest village priest in Colombia will be listening .. listening .. planning
..thinking .. living .. breathing .. hoping ..

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By American Lion, January 30, 2012 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

I am at the level of “dismal understanding” and have
learned people like Chris Hedges to thank; and thank
him I do. Next, I would take issue with a developing
concept surrounding the notion that OWS is leaderless
for a good reason. Leaderless groups may have
strength in numbers, a common purpose set against the
injustice that follows in the corporate wake, many
issues and causes that require fighting for and
against; but without a leader there are two very
necessary things that the trodden upon do not have,
coordination and timing.
OWS stands tall against oppression and slavery but
will remain unfocused, uncoordinated, and wither from
exhaustion resulting from lack of common direction.
Strength in numbers is multiplied by strength of
common direction and brought to bare with efficiency
by timing. Regaining citizens rights and civil
freedoms will be the rewards of the army with the
best leadership.

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By David J. Cyr, January 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment

QUOTE, Chris hedges:

“Corporations have no regard for nation-states.”
__________________

They haven’t any need to. Corporations have cheaply campaign contribution purchased the governments of nation-states, and thereby now own the nation-states.

Here in the Corporate States of America, 99% of the voters have been habitually stupefied by the money manufactured candidates into behaving like obedience school trained dogs — conservatives and liberals corporate party voting together regularly to compliantly provide supermajority popular vote mandates for the sociopathic corporate (R) & (D) party’s policies.

The Republicans’ wishes are the Democrats’ commands.

Don’t like the (R) & (D) managed corporate-state? Then support un-corporate Green candidates!

Jill Stein for President:

http://www.jillstein.org

Voter Consent Wastes Dissent:

http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=498&Itemid=1

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By entropy2, January 30, 2012 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment

@Jerry Gerber

Global problems require global government.

If you’re trolling, I guess I’ll rise to the bait.

If you’re not trolling, then you’re delusional.

The problem in our world is too much concentrated power—NOT too little.

To think that, first, we can come up with The One Big Rule Book that is going to be provide liberty, justice and abundance to 7 billion individuals and THEN, that we can make sure to keep the crooks, the sociopaths and the idiots out of this super-state is sheer utopian lunacy.

Back to the drawing board.

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By ElkoJohn, January 30, 2012 at 1:20 pm Link to this comment

not to worry,
global predatory capitalism is in the fast lane
—getting all the help it needs from the governments
which, in effect, they own.
But it will self-destruct eventually,
bc all the tricks & traps & smoke & mirrors
will stop working.
Keep the faith.

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By meycasa, January 30, 2012 at 1:09 pm Link to this comment

Jerry Gerbers idea about World Government is so awesome, and only going
to happen after a huge disaster like when there are only a few people left
in this world.  However, we can try. Here’s an idea! Each country votes for a
representative in the United Nations. No campaign contributions allowed.
One person, one vote.

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By felicity, January 30, 2012 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment

Obviously, posters on this blog have failed to
understand that the Market is a benevolent deity and
the corporation is its great and worthy representative
on earth.

One doesn’t mess-with-mother-nature and one doesn’t
mess-with-a-deity-or-its-representatives-on-earth.

(By the way, the synonyms for fascism are -
corporatism, authoritarianism, nationalism, militarism,
anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism.)

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By Jerry Gerber, January 30, 2012 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment

Global problems require global government. Corporations, digital communication technologies, international finance, global environmental degradation—none of these respect national boundaries. National governments, no matter how powerful, cannot enforce the rule of law on the global level. We must move toward a democratic world government, with world courts, a world constitution, global law enforcement and, most importantly, a global bill of rights protecting and enhancing the civil, economic and environmental rights of all world citizens. If we don’t, corporations will continue to rule the world and control the politics and politicians of individual nations.

The other reason we so need global government is that a world democratic government can outlaw warfare and hold individual leaders of nations (and non-state terrorists) accountable for political violence. By demanding that nations resolve conflicts and disputes in international and regional courts, we can replace WAR with LAW—the only thing that can actually do so. All the peace marches in the world will not eliminate warfare until we do so with international law ratified by the nations of the world. No nation can be secure from war until ALL nations are secure from war.

Globalization cannot be stopped, it is evolutionary in nature and the world is increasingly interconnected via our communications and transportation technologies, international culture and finance. Local problems should be handled by local government, national problems by national governments, and global problems by global government. Our political and governmental institutions have to catch up—and this means global governance.

Jerry Gerber
http://www.jerrygerber.com

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By Basil McDonnell, January 30, 2012 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment
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I’ve listened with great interest as Chris Hedges has turned his attention to Canada, first with his wonderful interview with O’Leary of the CBC, in which he took that awful person down a number of pegs. 

The issue with our Prime Minister is that he is pursuing a religious agenda that is unrecognized by most Canadians.  The fundamentalist approach is exemplified by the crime and punishment policy: crime is sin, and must be punished, regardless of what the experts, and the police, say about the advisability of mandatory sentencing. 

The same thread runs through their environmental policy.  God gave this earth to man to plunder, sayeth the lord, and it is heretical to object.

Everything they do has a religious basis.

But they are and they recognize that they are a minority, and their tentative moves to major changes show that they know they have to trick Canadians to implement their agenda.

There is still a major reservoir of social democratic principle in this country, particularly in Quebec.  We could turn this around.

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By John Sullivan, January 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment
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“Imagine there’s no country.”—John Lennon

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By meycasa, January 30, 2012 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

Entropy2 stated ” . But the simple fact is that, sadly, the person in Cairo,
Montreal or Madrid isn’t going to put food in my mouth, a roof over my
head or clothes on my back, and I can’t really offer much more than moral
support to him or her either.”

I just finished watching part of the documentary “have you heard from
Johannesburg” that aired on PBS.  http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/
have-you-heard-from-johannesburg/  Oliver Thembo and others worked
for decades to rid South Africa from Apartheid.  The only succeeded
because they had international grassroots support which is.why I also
believe that all the struggles of poor people are related. Thembo said
Apartheid needed a FACE. That face was MANDELA. The question for our
struggles of.our time, whose face can we put on our movement?

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By carlton_lufteufel, January 30, 2012 at 11:37 am Link to this comment
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JDmysticDJ said: “Of all the prominent, viable, politicians in this nation Barack Obama is at the forefront of combating inordinate corporate power; a fact that is ignored or distorted by chronic dissidents and perpetual cynics. Barack Obama is doing everything he can under current political realities to combat the excessive power of corporatism.”

Chronic dissidents? Perpetual cynics? Instead of hyperbole perhaps you should back up your extraordinary claims with facts. With that level of hyperbolic misdirection one would think you work for the Obama reelection campaign.

There are plenty of facts that refute the claim that Obama is “doing everything he can under current political realities to combat the excessive power of corporatism.” In fact, it seems very uncontroversial to say Obama is “doing everything he can under current political realities” to raise corporate cash for his reelection.

I’ve read he is aiming for 1 billion. That “political reality” seems to be of prime importance right now. Just like forcing the Foreclosure Fraud Settlement on all 50 states is of high importance.

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By Shanti, January 30, 2012 at 11:33 am Link to this comment
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Eureka! Electronic media (for those who have it) and economic boycotts will allow the “Rebels” to bypass the status quo and create a global powerbase for meaningful change. How long this takes will depend on the Will to forge alliances with disparate voices and success will depend on rational and, hopefully, peaceful pursuasion to our cause.

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By Litl Bludot, January 30, 2012 at 11:12 am Link to this comment

Those who still support covert corporate fascists, like BHO, should not be trusted in honest
company. They should have no friends. They should be isolated and shunned. They should be made outcasts.

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By entropy2, January 30, 2012 at 11:03 am Link to this comment

It’s great to say, “I stand in solidarity” with someone from Cairo, Montreal or Madrid. But the simple fact is that, sadly, the person in Cairo, Montreal or Madrid isn’t going to put food in my mouth, a roof over my head or clothes on my back, and I can’t really offer much more than moral support to him or her either.

Q: Who am I dependent on to supply the very real stuff that allows me to stay alive, every day?

A: The corporate-state.

When they yank my chain, I’ll either follow or choke.

Where there is dependency, tyranny and exploitation follow. Alternatives equal liberty.

No one is going to free us from oppression but ourselves…together, locally, one connection at a time. No white knight is going to be charging over the hill to save us. There is no leader, no party, no state…no incorruptible concentration of power large enough to do it for us.

Now, I’m not saying not to connect with the 99% around the world, but start in your own town, on your own block, in your own church and (if you’re lucky enough to have one) in your own workplace.

You may not even personally like the other INDIVIDUALS who make up the real 99%—some are pushy, some passive, some religious, some atheist, some gay, some straight, some redneck, some pseudo-intellectual, some self-righteous, some just plain obnoxious and cussed. But, if we can’t swallow our own prejudices and distaste for dealing with the people we live with every day, then the 1% has won the war without a fight.

It’s time to roll up our sleeves and get our hands dirty. We need to build local, interdependent networks to provide realistic alternative sources for our basic needs. The day we can walk away from the corporate-state is the day we’ll be free.

Don’t fight the power, make it irrelevant.

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By JDmysticDJ, January 30, 2012 at 10:48 am Link to this comment

These tautological comparisons to Vichy France are tiresome don’t you think? France was divided by the Nazi occupation of Northern France and divided by the allegiance of the French people; some favoring Petain and others favoring de Gaulle; because Petain collaborated with the Nazi’s the division in France would be seen as a division between the better and the worst would it not? Our nation too is divided in its politics; a division between the better and the worst I’ll proffer. The French -Left despised Petain but they also opposed de Gaulle during de Gaulle’s reign from 1958 to 1968. De Gaulle effectively granted independence to Algeria which caused the French Right to hate him. De Gaulle escaped assassination attempts and France was threatened with civil war during de Gaulle’s reign.

De Gaulle has been described as an ungrateful megalomaniac by some historians which may or may not be true, but by my appraisal de Gaulle was preferable to the right-wing alternative in French politics, or, if you will, better than the worst.

Many who oppose the abuses of capitalism state clearly that they are not opposed to capitalism but to the abuses of capitalism. I’ll proffer that there are a fair number of those who state their objections to the abuses of capitalism who disingenuously state their belief in capitalism because of political expediency. According to the most recent polls nearly 70% of the American people are believers in capitalism. Accusing politicians of being anti-capitalist is the Right’s most effective propaganda tactic.

Mr. MacDonald’s criticism of Obama is well made. Obama is a capitalist and a servant of capitalism as are virtually all viable candidates for elective office. The distinction to be made in our politics is between capitalist ideologues who preach the religion of unfettered capitalism, and those who believe that capitalism must be fettered by government regulation. Obama and the Democrats are believers in fettering capitalism and thus, better than the worst by my appraisal.

Condemnations of Obama’s foreign and national security policies and his belief in American Exceptionalism are well made and perfectly cogent by my appraisal but the condemnations directed at Obama’s domestic policies are irrational and counter productive in the extreme by my appraisal. The claim that Obama and the Democrats are one and the same with Republicans and corporatists is absurd and knowingly disingenuous. Arguing that Obama and the Democrats are disingenuous co-conspirators with the Right is a conspiratorial dialectic of falsity refuted by the facts; such is dialectic devoid of political acuity derived of demagoguery not supported by any rational analysis.

When considering the struggle to eliminate capitalist abuses and the inequities of wealth distribution and political power the abstract description of “Vichy” applies rather well to Republicans but much less so to Democrats. A better comparison would be that of comparing Republicans to the “Vichy French” and the Democrats as being de Gaullists, (The advocates of a Free France.)

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By jim mcdonagh, January 30, 2012 at 10:05 am Link to this comment
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great article. unfortunately its timing guaranties that it will have no effect on things. american political operatives infiltrated canadian politics completely during the mulroney years. canada is now a facist 3d world state [ in the style of mussolinis italy circa 1925].

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By prisnersdilema, January 30, 2012 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

Welcome to The Fourth Reich….in time it’s brutality, and murders will exceed the third,
and just as the Third laid waste to Europe, The Fourth Reich will devastate the globe.
The devastation has begun…Where will you go, what will you do to escape from it’s
lunatic discipline, and it’s poison?

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