Sorry folks, but the weather is not a problem.  All we have is normal cylical changing.  This is a money grab, and nothing more.  Believe any wierdo scientist you like, but this twill not change the path of the jet stream.  Go do something important with you life and leave the myth business to the freako’s.

Copenhagen: Peoples Assembly in front of BellaCenter 16.dec.2009 in pictures and video: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45694700@N04/4194131312/in/photostream/

any common sense left in this world??  Just who
can cap in degrees the mean temperature. Has JESUS
returned? 1.5 or 2 degrees C.  Just what person
that claims to have gray matter between their ears
thinks man can determine this ???

Anyway,  all the climate models have been controlled
by guess who since the late seventies. James Hansen
knows this well, now acting the activist.
That is as amusing as Oh!!BAMA and Gore recieving
the Nobel Peace Prize.
Excuse me, but I prefer to believe Hamaker and day
of the week over present day climate pundits. The
man who first went to Congress and presented the
CO2 and climate crise in 1980 and got laughed at.
The man whose CO2 graphs are the most accurate
and most used.

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  This heating trend actually lead to an Ice Age, wiping out much of the Earths plant and animal life.
  But you have given another perfect example, with the polar bear issue.
  It was Fox News that put out the story of how polar bear numbers were increasing from 5000 up to possibly 25000. And as always, they failed to give the rest of the facts around that number, but only gave enough to mislead and spread propaganda for their angry and manipulated patrons to regurgitate.
  Two decades ago, the numbers were around 5000, due to over hunting. So laws were put into place to protect them from over hunting, and their populations began to increase to the numbers they are today. The human factor was removed and they began to bounce back. But alas, today the numbers are shrinking again due to a lack of habitat, some because of human communities growing, most because of the ice shelf disappearing at an increasing rate. This idea you have of the “Ice sheets advancing”. This is very true. They are thinning out, breaking away, and advancing out into the ocean where they will melt at an even more rapid rate. But I have sympathy for you point of view. I understand it is hard to care about any of that when you still have clean water to drink, plenty of food on your plate, a job to go to, and stability in your country. Empathy is tough when the problem has not clearly yet effected you personally. Of course, when it has reached us here at the top in a way that can’t be ignored, and it is too late to make changes, and people like you have finally been forced by the very hand of God, cause and effect, to see it, no one will give a rats behind whether you finally change your mind. We will all be too busy just trying to survive to have any say in things. And all of us outside of your little self contained fantasy world, pulling our hair out, trying to get you to give a damn and help us protect our children’s futures instead of compounding the problem, telling everyone you can to stop bucketing the water out, the ship isn’t even sinking, while you and a few others are standing above deck where the water hasn’t flooded yet, and those who are harvesting wood from the hull of the boat to burn to keep themselves warm, or to sell to you to buy wine to keep themselves drunk and happy, are the ones telling you all is fine, just ignore the reality of the situation.
  I say shut your loud mouth and help us deal with the problem that this boat that God gave us to use is suffering.
  Or don’t. Whatever. Not like your reachable anyway. You already know better than 95 percent of the actual scientists of the world, and better than those at the bottom who feel it first. Fox News told you.
Just keep boiling frog, the worldly power of the our civilization is ever hungry.

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Ok, person “Diedaily”. Just a little science here.
These people that you are saying are behind a global conspiracy, they ARE the people behind global warming. They are making ridiculous money off of oil, banking, market control, etc… with no accountability for the effect they are having not only on the environment, but on the emotional stability of the people of any country, including this one. I say no accountability, but it is more like they know that if they can create enough chaos and fear and instability, they can offer solutions that none of us would accept under normal circumstances. That is how your freedom is taken out from under your feet. You are supporting them with your statements. Hitler’s rise to power was a right wing rise to power. Mussolini’s rise to power, and he admitted openly that it was not classic fascism that his country was developing, but corporatism, his was a right wing rise to power. Always it is in reactionary ideology that such people and movements develop and rise to prominence, destroy countless innocent lives, and set their people back generations. You are an American like me, yes? Consider what happened to Germany after the Nazi’s fell. It was divided and broken up by the planet it victimized. What happened to Russia after the communists fell? Pain and division and starvation and chaos. What happened to Italy after Mussolini and WWII? What happened to Rome and it’s people after the fall of the Roman Empire? We call it the dark ages for a reason. When has the Earth and Her people ever been able to sustain the weight of a few bloated people while everyone else suffered and became more and more angry? And when have the few ever been able to maintain their power when they have finally strangled it out of everyone else? But how did they strangle it out to begin with? First a threat, imaginary, created, staged, take your pick. Then they blame factor X, X being the Jews, the Native Americans, the terrorists, the Goths, the Greeks, the Persians, the LEFT, etc.. And it is always the reaction of the people that they count on to give up their power, just for a bit, just a little bit, until they have it.
  When Global Warming has reached it’s breaking point, when we can’t stand the pain of the life we live in within our self defecated environment, within our ruined financial situation, brought on by our own greed and callousness, and with our population numbers swelling absurdly even now well past the Earth’s capacity to maintain it, certain to increase even beyond the conservative numbers (conservative because some frogs believe the water isn’t coming to a boil, and giving them the real truth only throws them further into denial as they promptly come to a boil) as population and breeding increases as hardship and poverty increase. Then we will hand them whatever they desire, because they have the food and the guns and we have our children to feed and our angry neighbors to protect ourselves from.
  It is absurd to assume that most of the scientific community doesn’t acknowledge climate change. Just because it is snowing in the winter time doesn’t mean it’s getting colder each year. This has been the fifth hottest year since we’ve started reading the weather. And even if it is cooler, by a hair, next year, that doesn’t mean the Earth is cooling or even slowing down in heating up. Scientists have been more precise in describing, with a name, what is going on, due to the misinformation deliberately put out there based on simple minded thought and deliberate clouding of facts. There will be cooling in places as the earth heats up, they now call it “Climate Change”, because it is imbalances everywhere, pressure changes causing not only heating on a larger scale, but cooling in places where heat would have been carried by things such as the Oceanic Conveyor Belt, which is effected, and has stopped before, due to warming periods and ice melting, and current desalination

the climate collapse is not a hoax, the planet has
had plenty of them. This one is speeded up by
man’s pollution. I have followed the CO2 ppm since
the early eighties.  I suspect we are well above the
reported 390 ppm that is being thrown around,but it
doesn’t matter, if we were to stop every vehicle and
shut down all carbon emmisions, it can’t be slowed
down or reversed.  It is here, nature will take its
course. I do, however, love the social activism that
has been in response. The climate collapse, or carbon
recycling, whatever you want to call it is good for
planet earth, it will rejuvinate itself. That man
thinks he has power over this is absurd.

you know, although i don’t believe the deniers, because i can see the changes with my own eyes, as a bay swimmer, nevertheless, let’s pretend for a second that there was doubt about the science, which there isn’t.  So, then , let’s do nothing, on the chance that maybe things will just cool down and we won’t lose our planet and will be able to continue living at the expense of those who already have nothing,  well this just doesn’t add up.  Remember, there ain’t another planet we can hop over to , dude.
So it is far more logical to act like we are in the deep and deepening shit that we’ re really creating, and take any and all appropriate actions to combat the true terror of global warming, which we are actually locked in to, to avoid any further warming.  You know, then if in a century we find out we are wrong, well, we can have a good laugh, but know that we acted to do something good to save the planet , instead of denying that we are asshole addicts destroying life and thought for all. 
simply stated, we can’t afford to be wrong about the heating of our planet, but nothing will be lost and much gained if we find out we were, but , you know, if you had been swimming in the bay for 10 years, you wouldn’t wonder IF, you would only wonder, how much, how severe, how long until we stop making it worse

The planet will be fine. It has gone through a lot
worse than what humans have dished out. It will heal
itself long after humans are gone. The planet will be
fine the people are screwed.

It is revealing that the U.S.Rep sees the U.S. as a “donor” when speaking about
reparations going from primary polluters to “third world” nations devastated by
Global Warming, as and when.  Fact is, the U.S. is not being asked to “donate to
a charity”.  It is being asked to pay up for past and continuing negligence.

If you are a “donor” you are standing outside of the problem, “feeling sorry for”
the victims, but claiming no real connection or affiliation, admitting no guilt or
responsibility.

If you are “paying reparations,” you are admitting your responsibility and willing
to try to make up for previous mistakes you made.  You are involved,
connected, assuming responsibility. 

So long as primary polluters (whether nations, corporations or users) deny their
responsibility and refuse to admit their guilt,  the verbal rampages of the “UN
Conspiracy, World Government plot” cranks will find it easy to undermine facts
and awareness of possibilities.

It’s strange but true that it is often easier to believe lies than truths, especially
when they absolve you from guilt.

To me, at least half of earthlings live in an antinatural way.
How can it be pronatural to have a 2-5k kg vehicle carry an 80 kg person and for 20-50 kms a day?

Or not to cook for self much unsalted, unfatted, and unsugared food?
Or sit from 6-15 hrs a day and meanwhile avoid steps and use cages and escalators.

All this + more laziness just to please own feudal lords and warlords who need the money to manuafacture ever more and ‘better’ weapons to kill more and more ‘aliens’. ?All of which are innocent.

Note, please, there is no progrees w.o. regress. U were hoodwinked that there can be progrees w.o. regress and that the ‘progress’ can go on on and on or w.o.end?
There is no american dreams w.o. american nightmares! Also sprach die Nature, but not the warlords! tnx

Amy, Amy, Amy, don’t be such a useful fool.  The reason that the talks are failing and that demonstrators are treated criminally is that Darth Vader is stepping out of the shadows.  The movement has been hijacked by the one world dictatorship forces.  They are showing their true face and their complete contempt for the little countries and the little people.  Their aim, as always, is unimaginable wealth for the few and human cattle status for the rest.  Climate change is just a smokescreen for them.

If Vandana Shiva can prove that the USAF is using HAARP to affect the rain clouds in India, she needs to provide evidence.  Otherwise, I am left to believe that those accusations are based on the science fiction that carbon dioxide is creating climate change.
After watching her interview, it is clear that this woman wants the US to pay for just about anything as long as it isn’t India that pays.  Shiva knows that global warming is a myth.  I despise and still respect that attitude, except it just so happens to be married with this despicable power grab by the banking, financial elite to implement a global tax based on carbon emissions.
Who here believes that mother nature is going to pay her share of taxes?  How bout the deers or polar bears?  What about plants, trees and ... etc?  That just leaves the humans.  Damn it!  If only I can pass myself off to the global tax collector, that I am in fact a zebra.
I thought that as the central banking vampires reach further and further for the globe, they would eventually have to expose themselves to the light of scrutiny.  Instead Amy Goodman happens to be so kind as to cast her considerable shadow over them.  Why?  Why Amy?  Is it not the job of journalist to ask questions?  Not be married to any consensus?
Here is what 350.org has as a “pledge” in a bright blue box for all potential spam victims:
“I am ready for an ambitious, fair, and binding global climate deal. I call on world leaders to pass climate policies based on sound science and strong enough to get us back to 350.”
Tell me Amy that this is not an NGO that John Perkins would warn us against trusting?  We haven’t forgotten about all the color revolution that Soros sponsored in Eastern Europe have we?  Then there is Tuvalu and Maldives with there outrageous claims and antics at the Hopenhagen stage.  Everyone that will read this can look up these two island ‘nations’ on the government monitored website wikipedia.  What is this about a coat of arms?  And Tuvalu’s has a royal anthem, God save the Queen???  What’s that rectangular thing on the upper left corner of Tuvalu’s flag?  My my, if only I had the money those islands look like great vacation destinations.  There is no mention of there great science academy or climatologists…  Where did they get the data and money for all this hoopla?
If your goal is to turn democracy now to comedy central, these shows aren’t going to be funny until the people achieve victory over global tyranny.  So I do hope you are going to save them for re-broadcast, I intend to be watching it in a packed house.
While you are busy fanning the flames of the mob and hysteria to your audience, people like Lord Monckton and CFACT are fighting in the trenches.
http://www.cfact.org/a/1652/Monckton-names-names-on-Climategate
If someone can disprove these scientists let me know, I hate to be lied to.