correction! it shld be: who’s gonna stop the 20% to also own schooling
and the obedience training public schooling?

look, folks?
isn’t even the governance itself privatized? isn’t army, cia, fbi, banking,
mining, also privatized or totally controlled-owned by the 20% of
americans.
so, who’s gonna stop the 80% to own also schooling and the other
obedience training, aka, schools?

Re: Big B

Your comment: “thanks for sharing your anectdotal evidence that flies in the face of nearly all studies. ALL of the children in our area that are homeschooled (not some, ALL) are being homeschooled for RELIGIOUS reasons.”

In this, you are not correct. Because the question to which you refer was to the effect “are you home schooling for religious or moral reasons”.  For this reason, many lefties would home school for what they see as “moral reasons”. Ethics is morality simply put another way. Additionally, to assume that our schools have not been infiltrated and attacked by right wing ideologies is to miss the mark. This depends upon where you live.

Re: OM

Your comment: “I would stack my homeschooled kids against your mind-numbed products of Leftist propaganda any day.”

Your assertion is a fools game. There are many, many publicly educated children who very likely could put your children to shame. Best not to “blow smoke” as it were. Additionally, it is not becoming as a parent to pit one CHILD against another CHILD. That is not what home schooling should ever be about. I am a home schooling parent and it is about wanting the best situation for the particular child we have… whatever their strengths or weaknesses and having that opportunity to strengthen both.

As regards the article, charter schools are part of a coordinated attack to undermine public schools. Yes, they are. But charter schools are only one vehicle used to do this. Mandatory testing, ridiculous testing materials, underfunding and suspect teacher assessments are all a part of this concentrated effort to find “problems” where “problems” do not exist. Much like the voter ID laws.

For the record, home schooling is NOT the perpetrator attacking public schools, but they are being used and abused as such.

There are actual problems within our schools and this is what needs to be addressed, without all the vicious rhetoric. America could make it’s public schools the envy of the world were it not for the political quandary that our educational system has become.

That said, a good example of what I’m talking about comes from a public school teacher. She couldn’t have said it better in my opinion.

From CommonDreams:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/03/23-8

Ozark

thanks for sharing your anectdotal evidence that flies in the face of nearly all studies. ALL of the children in our area that are homeschooled (not some, ALL) are being homeschooled for RELIGIOUS reasons. They are learning that the earth is 8 thousand years old and that the laws of physics are part of a massive conspiracy involving every scientist for the last 500 years (its true, i’ve seen the curriculum) How is it that every other western democracy can PUBLICLY educate most of their populations, most through collegate level?

Its all about the money people. The more you spend on a childs education, the smarter the kid. Other than a level financial playing field, the biggest obstacle to our nation having a great public education system is our sense of community in this country, or should I say our lack of it. We have been convinced by our evil oligarchs that a dog eat dog society is the way to go, even when educating our children.

Charter schools are the newest bullet in the war on public education, including destroying teachers unions, use of public school buildings for profit (while calling charter schools “public” - another Orwellian language perversion)...see
http://www.blackagendareport.com for excellent critique of the new privatization scam using what was a good idea, “charter schools” in a new, heinous way.

PatrickHenry… your response was so civil that i am silenced. I thought we was gonna get in a pissing contest. i was wrong.

/hat tip

OzarkMichael,

Maybe you’re the exception to the rule.  Our backward state of Maryland as been down the homeschooling road before with many less than qualified parents so much so that explicit directions and qualifications must be met.

http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/divisions/studentschoolsvcs/student_services_alt/home_schooling/docs/homeschool_factsheet.htm

There are pro’s and cons as you well know.

http://www.successful-homeschooling.com/homeschooling-pros-and-cons.html

One phrase in American oratory has been particularly
problematic, yet is seldom admitted to be a problem:
the words ...“promote the general welfare.”
  From the beginning the country has always been class-conscious—elites, middles and poor. As time has passed, under capitalism (admitedly a class-solidifying system) the divisions have become increasingly less changeable, so that after 200 years or so “the general welfare” now means that “we” who are richer and hence more powerful, are taxed with the cumbersome “responsibiity” of “taking care of” you (general welfare) others.  And since that is burdensome, we wish to keep it at a minimum, not “promote” it.
  Obviously, this kind of “responsibility” comes from the purse, not from the heart, and is therefore less than gratifying to the elites of government and business who tend to provide only the most minimal
resources to the “least deserving”, least “entitled.”
  The ultimate result seems to be that the “under-classes” get short shrift even though they are vastly more numerous than “uppers” and “miiddles.”
  It is a bitter irony that while this “system” by its very nature provides an ever-increasing number of persons unable to “rise” to a “higher class”, it costs the “higher class” MORE money to provide LESS
“general welfare.”
  The entire “public school question” is muddied by our national attempt to try not to even talk about the “general welfare,” let alone do anything to improve it. Seems that millions of us would rather pretend it doesn’t exist.

Tell it like it is, SurfNow! Teachers are abused and scapegoated and public school
teachers are often fighting battles that have nothing to do with educating
students.

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/02/we-do-need-an-education/

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/03/one-teeny-tiny-problem-with-
teacher-evaluations/

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/02/my-invitation-to-rick-santorum/

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/03/santorums-missing-link/

PatrickHenry said:

A step above home schooling with history tailored to your particular religion, race or culture’s belief.

Aint it a shame PatrickHenry, that your all powerful state cant control all us little folks? Aint it even worse how much diversity there is in this country? 

Homeschooling… nothing beats it. I would stack my homeschooled kids against your mind-numbed products of Leftist propaganda any day. Pick your subject: History, science, math, civics.  We leave you guys in the dust and we never looked back.

Right on surfnow, the latest wave in the privatization movement.. prisons, healthcare, universities, education, if the private sector can find a way to bid on government spending they’ll do it.

Unless you are very stupid or are completely brainwashed- which most Amerikans are- you understand that poor student performance in public schools has very little to do with the quality of teachers. Most public school teachers are professionals who take teaching very seriously. Student performance is directly attributable to eroding socio-econoic conditions and culture. Charter schools are just about privatization of all public sector jobs- which has been a conservative agenda for decades. Governors like Christie and the others don’t give a rat’s ass about student’s learning- it’s all about taking public money and funneling it into the hands of greedy CEOs.

Its always been the selling point of the charter school movement, that they will be just like private schools, only for poor kids. I, like so many others, call bullshit.

Private schools in the US are attended by our best and brightest from the upper crust and upper middle class. For the most part, our most stabile homes. With top shelf facilities and acedemic connections second to none, a kid from a private school has a distinct advantage over every other child.

Charter schools are what poor rural and bankrupt urban schools tried to try and keep the smart kids parents from tranferring their kids some where else. Charter schools are no different than a regular public school if but for 2 distinct differences. First, urban charter schols try to keep the “good” kids away from the “bad” kids. And last, a charter school teacher is usually some underpaid kid freash out of college, or some schlub that washed out of teaching years before and now needs a paycheck.

Charter schools are only interested in one thing, making money.

A step above home schooling with history tailored to your particular religion, race or culture’s belief.