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Change They Don’t Believe InPosted on Jan 20, 2012CHARLESTON, S.C.—You know-it-alls who think unemployment is the most urgent crisis facing the nation are wrong, I’ve learned from watching a zillion Republican campaign ads on television this week. All you deficit hawks, rise-of-China worrywarts and alarmed observers of the Iranian nuclear program are wrong, too, and should stop bothering yourselves with trifles. One of Mitt Romney’s spots ends by laying out the nation’s top priority in no uncertain terms. Voters should support Romney, the narrator says, because “beating Obama is the most important issue.” Am I the only one to find that weird? I understand why trying to engineer President Obama’s defeat would be an urgent priority for Romney, who wants to move his family into the White House, but why should it be more important to voters than, say, boosting the economy or reducing the debt? Why shouldn’t the focus be on policies and results? All right, I know how naive this sounds. I’m fully aware of the political calculation: Politics is about winning, and the best way for a Republican to win this year is to make Obama the issue. All the GOP contenders, to varying degrees, have sought to demonize the president. And it’s true that the four remaining candidates are spending just as much time and money trying to demonize one another. Romney is portrayed as a mushy, flip-flopping moderate in disguise, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum as business-as-usual Washington insiders, Ron Paul as a nutty crackpot. Whoever emerges as the nominee, Republicans have already done a lot of the Obama campaign’s work. Advertisement I’m also aware that electability has become a major selling point for voters here, perhaps even more important than credentials as a dyed-in-the-wool conservative. Especially for Romney—whose record as Massachusetts governor is enough to make many South Carolina Republicans faint dead away—sticking with the “I can beat Obama” line may be the only viable choice. Still, there’s a nasty edge to the discourse here. It’s striking that in a state where unemployment is at 9.9 percent, the last message Romney decides to send voters before the primary is not “jobs” or “growth”—but rather, “We’ve got to get rid of this guy.” From the sound of it, this whole thing isn’t political. It’s personal. The candidates go back and forth across the state, exhorting voters to “take the country back,” and I wonder: Take it back from whom? Did somebody stage a coup, or maybe a heist? Who’s in possession of this country of yours? And what makes it yours, not theirs? Romney and Gingrich, especially, have taken pains to create the impression that there is something alien and illegitimate about the Obama presidency. They portray Obama not as a political opponent but as a usurper. Gingrich has been shamelessly beating this drum for a long time. Remember his bizarre allegation that “Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior” was somehow the key to understanding what Obama was trying to accomplish? That turned out to be just the beginning. At practically every opportunity, he rails about how Obama is a “food stamp president.” At Monday’s debate in Myrtle Beach, Gingrich doubled down on his language characterizing poor people as lazy and ignorant, then practically dared anyone to accuse him of race-baiting. He should consider himself accused. Romney’s approach, however, is more subtle. On Monday, he made the pitch that Obama had to be replaced right now, because if he remains in office for four more years, the country will be transformed into “something we wouldn’t recognize.” Bingo. The Obama administration, to state the obvious, doesn’t look like any of its predecessors. In its diversity, however, it does look a lot like the nation. When I was growing up in South Carolina, the political leadership of South Carolina was all white and all male, and the Confederate flag flew proudly above the statehouse in Columbia. On Wednesday night, Gov. Nikki Haley, who is of Indian descent, gave the annual State of the State address; when she finished, state Rep. Bakari Sellers, who is African-American, gave the opposition’s response. From the evidence, voters here have more capacity for dealing with change than the Republican candidates seem to think.
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By ardee, January 24, 2012 at 3:45 am Link to this comment
Lafayette, January 23 at 2:18 pm
You think your increasing stridency and stupidity, as well as ducking the issues raised is brilliant political repartee.
Guess what you tired pedantic shill for a political party that is a mere shadow of its former self; it ain’t no such thing.
You are a sad and no longer relevant commentator here. Stay in France you imbecile.
Report thisBy oddsox, January 23, 2012 at 6:35 pm Link to this comment
Lafayette, you write:
“You’re stretching your notion of economics beyond its limits.
To create jobs, stimulus spending is necessary. Read your EC101 book.”
First, let’s give Keynes his turn at bat and look at (government) stimulus spending.
As mentioned down-thread, Obama already DID some big-time stimulus spending.
Re-read my earlier post to refresh the relative scale if you care to.
But now, let’s look at stimulus spending from a couple new angles:
Over 9 years, 1934-1943, the WPA/PWA added 651,000 miles of paved road, built 78,000 bridges, 8,000 parks and 800 airports.
What has Obama’s stimulus created?
or let’s take a micro view:
In my home town, I attended 3 schools, K-12, that were built by the WPA when FDR was President. One of them looked like it was built by the Aztecs, but it was still being used until about 10 years ago.
A great auditorium was built back then, still in use.
A post office (with mural), library, city hall, train station—all built through the WPA.
Some of these buildings are still in use, too.
How about in your home town? I know you like in France, but what about where you grew up?
Bet you can still point to more than one school, bridge, hospital, library or the like and—70 years later—say “WPA did this.”
But will there be any such monuments to Obama’s stimulus bill?
What say you?
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Next, you ask,
“by what logic will(Repub candidates) justify ... they are going to create jobs without spending money - which they have systematically refused to do since they have been in control of the HofR?”
***Short answer:***
By reducing restrictive regulations that constrict production of goods and delivery of services and serve as barriers to entry and expansion.
Important to understand, Lafayette, I emphasised helping SMALL businesses create jobs.
Small business creates many more jobs than government can.
By a 2x-7x margin depending on whose numbers you like.
I like Obama as a person and family man and am still glad I voted for him & glad he won.
But his domestic policy as been all about helping BIG business, government employees and unions.
The auto industry, as you pointed out, the banks, big pharma and insurance companies.
How ‘bout the little guy working on his own?
One thing Obama could still do to earn my vote again is to advocate breaking up the big banks using anti-trust action through the Department of Justice.
Report thisCreate smaller banks & lots more of them.
Huntsman made a remark about this just before he quit, Robert Reich is for it, as is a past President of the KC Fed. Reserve Bank.
I know you’ve read all this before—here’s my link for others who have not:
http://open.salon.com/blog/oddsox/2011/10/10/too_big_to_fail_too_big_to_begin_with
By Lafayette, January 23, 2012 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment
You’re stretching your notion of economics beyond its limits.
To create jobs, stimulus spending is necessary. Read your EC101 book.
Which is precisely what the Replicants have been refusing to do - telling the world that the budget deficit will sink America and austerity by means of cutting social programs and no new spending are THE ONLY CORRECT RESPONSES.
So, if running this country, by what logic will they justify that, now, abracadabra!, they are going to create jobs without spending money - which they have systematically refused to do since they have been in control of the HofR?
Short answer, please.
Report thisBy Lafayette, January 23, 2012 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment
DUMB & DUMBER
Your tired nonsense is getting very dull.
You know very well that in our system of governance, the PotUS is not omnipotent.
You want Obama to kick-ass like Schwarzie in some sci-fi film? Silly boy - you’ve been watching too much Hollywood trash.
That’s not the way this country works. You, and those who allowed the T-Party into the HofR, should know better by now.
He’s to blame because the Replicants have had a do-nothing allow-nothing game plan in Congress to set him up for the November elections? Despite the enormous harm such a policy does to the American people?
Now pull the other leg ...
Right - and if Obama was photographed kissing a baby, you’ll call him a pedophile.
Try harder, this argument is pointless.
He’s been cleaning up LeaHead and Cheney’s sh*t for three years and you call him an interventionist.
Now I’ve seen them all. Enough.
Take your meds.
Report thisBy ardee, January 23, 2012 at 1:10 pm Link to this comment
Lafayette, January 23 at 3:33 am Link to this comment
SANCTIMONIOUS
az: Any proof? This kind of “opinion” is nothing but propaganda.
Try this on for size (some proof but mostly promise):
* Obama has suggested that income taxes on the rich be raised, which would most certainly go a long way towards soothing the National Debt burden. It could bring in close to $1.3T.
Obama “suggests” a lot of things, only to waffle, retreat and refuse to stand up to the GOP on any of them.
* With a more pliable Dem Congress, packed with a good bunch of progressive politicians, having routed the T-Party (T for Troglodyte), we could get started on a serious reform of our tripartite system of governance.
One need only to harken back to the Democratic Party’s control of Congress and the nothing that was accomplished then as now.
* Obama rescued GM, which has come back as the Automotive Industry Numero Uno producer of cars globally. He could not save all the jobs - nobody could have. But, he’s put more people back (net of job losses) to work than Romney ever has.
True Dat. One for you.
* In order to get ObamaCare, he had to dump the Public Option - which he would most certainly bring back. Americans haven’t obviously the faintest idea of that goodness. Europeans adopted such a national health service 50 years ago and it is World Class by professionals. We can’t say that for America’s privatized health-care system.
The world according to you. Obama had made private deals with Big Pharma prior to even writing the Health Care legislation. The dollars in campaign contributions from that Industry are obviously far more important to Obama than the health of our citizenry.
I would ask what you base your opinion that single payer will return in Obama’s next four years, other than your blind loyalty that is?
* He has negotiated a face-saving withdrawal from two-wars, one of which was illegal (Iraq) by UN standards. His stance has been non-intervention, but where approved by the UN (Libya), he has enacted American logistical participation. This is the way American foreign policy should work as regards starting wars. Not the nonsense of “preemptive war-making” by the Rabid Right.
Sorry this must be written in pharsee or some such language as I cannot, for the life of me, understand what you are saying here. Non-intervention you say? Humbug I say. The man threatens Iran almost daily.
* Most importantly, he will change the character of the Supreme Court by appointing a Left-of-center candidate for the next replacement due to retirement of seated justice. This could change the character fundamentally of their decision-rendering. Perhaps even get Roberts to retire to some godforsaken pasture in Montana.
Roberts is a youngish Justice and will not retire despite your pie in the (face) sky bull. Can you surmise which Justice is next in line to retire and whether he/she will do so in the coming four years? No, you simply cannot. Nor can you assure anyone but yourself and your fellow travelers that any such appointment will make the court more liberal.
Report thisBy oddsox, January 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment
Layfayette, you write:
“And so, the question to be asked is: What will (the Republican candidate) do better?”
That’s the question, yes.
The answer is: “Help small businesses create jobs.”
Report thisBy Lafayette, January 23, 2012 at 4:33 am Link to this comment
SANCTIMONIOUS
Try this on for size (some proof but mostly promise):
* Obama has suggested that income taxes on the rich be raised, which would most certainly go a long way towards soothing the National Debt burden. It could bring in close to $1.3T.
* With a more pliable Dem Congress, packed with a good bunch of progressive politicians, having routed the T-Party (T for Troglodyte), we could get started on a serious reform of our tripartite system of governance.
* Obama rescued GM, which has come back as the Automotive Industry Numero Uno producer of cars globally. He could not save all the jobs - nobody could have. But, he’s put more people back (net of job losses) to work than Romney ever has.
* In order to get ObamaCare, he had to dump the Public Option - which he would most certainly bring back. Americans haven’t obviously the faintest idea of that goodness. Europeans adopted such a national health service 50 years ago and it is World Class by professionals. We can’t say that for America’s privatized health-care system.
* He has negotiated a face-saving withdrawal from two-wars, one of which was illegal (Iraq) by UN standards. His stance has been non-intervention, but where approved by the UN (Libya), he has enacted American logistical participation. This is the way American foreign policy should work as regards starting wars. Not the nonsense of “preemptive war-making” by the Rabid Right.
* Most importantly, he will change the character of the Supreme Court by appointing a Left-of-center candidate for the next replacement due to retirement of seated justice. This could change the character fundamentally of their decision-rendering. Perhaps even get Roberts to retire to some godforsaken pasture in Montana.
I could go on, but I suspect you aren’t really interested. Why?
Because of this BS:
The above is unmitigated idiocy, scurrilous, and untruthful. You are sanctimonious to charge another blogger with lack-of-proof and yet, in the same breath, print the above defamation.
Shilling for the Replicants, are we?
Report thisBy azythos, January 22, 2012 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment
Lafayette: “Obama is the far lesser of two evils”
Any proof? This kind of “opinion” is nothing but propaganda.
He’s been worse than Bush on everything that counts (relative to international law, war, rule of law, corporate theft, progression toward fascism), not to forget that he is, differently from Bush, officially and personally a murderer who has declared the right to kill you, too, should the fancy hit him.
Please stop that dictatorship propaganda. Any moderately intelligent kid understands that the existence of that “Democratic” party is the greatest evil, worse than the deranged “other” dictatorship party (which at least is honest in the wayu it presents itself.
Report thisBy gerard, January 22, 2012 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment
What’s really “alien” and “illegitimate” in this country these days is the way the people’s money is taken over by the Pentagon and related warmongering agencies and spent on killing people, rather than ...
For example: “PERI (Political Economy Research Institute) found that $1 billion in military spending produced 11,200 jobs, which sounds impressive until it is placed next to the alternatives. Tax cuts, no reputable economist’s favorite way to create jobs, still outpaced military spending - $1 billion in tax cuts would create an estimated 15,100 jobs. But even that looks weak when compared with more direct government investment in crucial alternative sectors. A billion dollars spent on clean energy and improved efficiency would result in 16,800 new jobs. The same amount in the health care sector would mean 17,200 jobs. And $1 billion of government investment in education would create 26,700 jobs - well over twice the jobs created by the same amount spent on the military.”—from Truthout.org 1/21/12 “Occupy Innovation” by Gregg Levine.
Report thisBy ardee, January 22, 2012 at 12:26 pm Link to this comment
I do understand that the distortions and hatred typified in the post of the obviously bigoted and really stupid BBFmail, January 21 at 8:42 am should probably be allowed to die a natural death . However there may be some as gullible as this moron who might see a shred of truth within that pile of excrement.
Here is a link to show that “Sharia Law” is not as simple as this simpleton exclaims, and, in fact, there are multiple versions of such:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/islsharia.htm
Report thisBy Lafayette, January 22, 2012 at 12:38 am Link to this comment
Don’t count on it, ER.
Bad habits are difficult to change. Especially in political orientation.
There is very little sense of egalitarianism in the American nation. People think they have to “get up and go”, when the economy has already “got up and went” - for most of them.
They then think, in an odd way, that victimization is God’s Will, so we just have to put up with the crumbs off the table. They really do believe in the nonsense that all that happens in LaLaLand on the Potomac is evil - and therefore lesser is better.
When in fact, Good Government, when executed appropriately, can do enormous good for leveling the playing field. <One just needs to find competent people and put them in the right places. (LeadHead showed us how the wrong people in the right places could do so much harm - so why should not the opposite be true?)
No, people don’t need a hand-out. But often they do need a hand-up.
Report thisBy Lafayette, January 22, 2012 at 12:27 am Link to this comment
BAG OF TRICKS
And so, the question to be asked is: What will “X” do better? (“X” being any Replicant candidate who takes the nomination.)
Nada, niente, rien, nothing, zip. Their bag of tricks is empty. If they increase any spending at all it will be in the DoD budget. BFD - do we really need another 1000 drones flying around the Middle-East?
My Point: It’s not the presidential race that matters. It’s Congress that must be changed.
Get the right people into Congress and reform CAN HAPPEN. Stop worrying about the presidential election.
Obama is the far lesser of two evils, but with a reformed Congress we have a chance to really stop the political/economic rot in this country.
[For instance, he could help matters along by getting rid of the next conservative Supreme Court judge that comes up for retirement - which could be accelerated by investigation of Thomas’ business dealings. Another way would be to replace district judges that were put in place (by LeadHead) not out of their capacity as judges but their political leanings.]
If grassroots-America wants to punish Obama yet again, they are shooting themselves in the foot; just as they did in the 2010 midterm elections when 52% of American voters stayed away from the polls.
And, yes, it is entirely possible that the grassroots is that stupid. Why not?
They did not vote in the midterms in sufficient numbers, which resulted in getting the T-Party (T for Troglodyte) into the HofR - and which ruined any remedial action that Obama could undertake in the second half of his term by stimulus spending because they stymied all such efforts.
So, we are going to punish him as a do-nuthin’ PotUS, when we, the sheeple, are at fault?
You betcha! That’s the American way ...
Report thisBy oddsox, January 21, 2012 at 2:47 pm Link to this comment
self-correct from previous post:
I wrote: “...the $787B stimulus act (cost) 10 times what FDR spent on the WPA/PWA (... in inflation-adjusted dollars).”
Forgive the exaggeration, it was only 3 times as much.
Report thisBy gerard, January 21, 2012 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
“...there is something alien and illegitimate about the Obama presidency…”
The reason this antique saw always rises to the survace politically is that nobody—absolutely nobody—knows what “native” and “legitimate” mean in this confused country. Our “forefathers” (some of them, that is) came here as aliens and occupied the terrain illegitimately, by force not by right. We set up the myth as fact that “white” means
Report this“legitimate(some rich whites being more “legitimate” than poor whites, the poorest of whom were economic
“aliens”); that “democratic” means elections can be bought and sold; and that “the law” means whatever keeps the most rascals in power.
We established the false notion that this country was and is superior to all others (meaning somehow more legitimate) and that all “alien” cultures deserve to be stamped out by our superior military forces. To this day we have not joined the human race in any truly legitimate way—meaning by recognizing commonality, universality, equality etc. We still think and act in terms of snobbery worse than any royal dominion, and betray Christianity daily by “legitimizing” bloodthirsty wars either for acquisition or revenge—or both. Far beyond necessity, we support the most enormous, overblown military system in the world, and citizens who object are “alienated” and forced into whatever form of confinement is at hand.
There is something in such a creed that is truly illegitimate and alien to human-ness, and so long as that is so, it probably makes little to no difference who “presides” over it all.
By azythos, January 21, 2012 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment
“unemployment is the most urgent crisis facing the nation…”
No sh**! Exactly what one would expect from the fully-paid-for propaganda whore Robinson.
Forget war of aggression and war crimes. Forget the official canceling of the rule of law by your (yes, your) administration of murderers who fully deserve the full sanction of both Nuremberg and the US legtislation against war crimes. Not to mention that your Obama not only hasn’t done anything about unemployment except making it way worse, see corporate theft by Obama’s hand. You singled out for attack the only thing Romney ever said that is essentially right, no matter his reasons for saying it.
Robinson, you are not a moron and you are literate. Therefore, the more charitable of the two explanations for your relentless propaganda action doesn’t apply (look up Julius Streicher).
Report thisBy balkas, January 21, 2012 at 11:45 am Link to this comment
not to bore you, i may repeat—if necessary—ad infinitum, that religions MUST be, if we
Report thisare ever to become about fully human/humane [no perfection wanted; who needs/wants
it, anyway] deemed ‘sciences’.
thus, needing the exact same evaluation used for the other science[s].
i was able to remember saying this a thousand and one times because of memory
medicine, an hopi medicine man gave me this morning.
however, hopi medicine man tells me that even ideologies espoused by ron paul,
romney, hitler, obama, marx, lenin, et al MUST BE THOUGHT OF as SCIENCE.
no, never as BS! they are too deadly to dismiss them as such or ron paul and romney as
loonies only—remember they are VERY LETHAL also. thanks
By oddsox, January 21, 2012 at 9:58 am Link to this comment
LAFAYETTE, mon ami!
Eloquent as usual, but perhaps leaning your ladder against the wrong tree.
Yes, your reasoning will be applied in the campaign to defend Obama’s record, that’s happening already.
Is this not your point, writ large by Andrew Sullivan in Newsweek?:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/15/andrew-sullivan-how-obama-s-long-game-will-outsmart-his-critics.html
But it’ll be a tough sell. Especially if the unemployment rate begins to climb again (or descends further from more people giving up the search).
Obama had his turn at bat with the $787B stimulus act. That’s 3/4 of a Trillion Dollars.
Or 5% of our yearly GDP.
Or 10 times what FDR spent on the WPA/PWA (yep, that’s in inflation-adjusted dollars).
So where’s our new Golden Gate Bridge?
Our new Hoover Dam?
High speed rail?
Solar powered—(...oh, let’s not go there..)
Instead of the promised <8% unemployment we got “shoulda coulda woulda:”
“Shoulda” known Bush messed things up worse than we thought (Sullivan)
“Woulda” had 19% unemployment without it (Lafayette & so many others)
“Coulda” spent more, yeah, that would have worked! (Paul Krugman, with Nobel Recall Center holding on line 2.)
Humbug!
Where’s our bridge?
Where’s our dam?
Where’s our train?
Government spending that doesn’t produce is just waste and we have enough of that already.
And our debt?
Watch this & enjoy the humor while wincing at the truth of it—HA HA HA ouch…!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li0no7O9zmE
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christian96, rooting for Class Envy to go Global are we?
Wouldn’t that make YOU a 1%er?
“Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.”
—Alexis de Tocqueville
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BBFmail, “Obama ... responsible for the deaths of more Africans than any US President in recent history.”
hmmmmmm—nope, not buying it.
Khadaffi would have killed as many, just slowly.
And we’ll just have to wait n’ see how the new Libyan government works out.
As for Ron Paul, good luck with that.
Report thisSincerely.
IMHO, you’re wise to put your financial support in play NOW—Paul has a decent shot if he can get the Repub nomination and face Obama alone, one-on-one.
But that’s his ONLY chance.
In one way, he makes the most sense for the Repubs in November: You won’t see Gingrich going 3rd party, you won’t see rogue write-ins for Romney.
By BBFmail, January 21, 2012 at 9:42 am Link to this comment
Top ten reasons why sharia is bad for all societies
By James Arlandson
Here are the top ten reasons why sharia or Islamic law is bad for all societies.
10. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.
9. Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives.
8. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical eye for physical eye.
7. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off.
6. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or mutilated.
5. Islam commands that homosexuals must be executed.
4. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death.
3. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.
2. Islam orders apostates to be killed.
1. Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad.
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Report thisBy balkas, January 21, 2012 at 9:34 am Link to this comment
personal supremacism has many tails. one of them is libertarianism!!
Report this[also nazism, of course]
it is, to me, as a great an evil as any other of its tails and probably even
the worse or worst ever.
even voting for the branch or tail of supremacism which GOP espouses
and/or promotes might be better than libertarianism. for one thing, GOP
is by far more truthful and telling you what goes and will go on than
even the tail that the Dems espouse.
By balkas, January 21, 2012 at 9:24 am Link to this comment
yes, one of the greatest catastrophy that ever befell us was the invention
Report thisof electricity by the mad scientists. they meant well—or most of them, i
think, meant well; however, they, too, had been ruled by mad
industrialists, shareholders, bankers and so hell on earth descended.
thanks
By balkas, January 21, 2012 at 9:18 am Link to this comment
shariah law reinstituted in libya? i expected it. islam is as good and
Report thisfaithful as christianity and talmudism [or even better] in supporting an
ism i call personal supremacism; furthest developed in ‘goodoldusa’. but,
a revisit of libya, if not so, is still an option for supremacists. thanks
By leedriver, January 21, 2012 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)
Don’t we need a bill that allows 1%ers to pay off mortgages of people in financial
Report thisdifficulty, and get a tax deduction for it?
By BBFmail, January 21, 2012 at 7:53 am Link to this comment
Yes ODDSOX….I not only will vote for Ron Paul…I support his candidacy financially..you know “put your money where your mouth is”....
Perhaps if the administration had listened to Ron Paul, or Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader…30,000 Black Libyans might still be alive, Sharia Law would not have be reinstated in Libya (yes, the new government has announced this), and the US taxpayers would not have paid $1.6 BILLION dollars to establish an Islamic government in Libya.
Obama now has the unique accomplishment of being responsible for the deaths of more Africans than any US President in recent history.
Report thisBy christian96, January 21, 2012 at 7:08 am Link to this comment
America will fall. European Union and NATO will
Report thisrise led by Germany. Then, God will turn off the
electricity on planet earth with sun bursts. It
will be a time of GREAT TRIBULATION on earth when
the spoiled brats learn to live without electricity.
By xrm, January 21, 2012 at 6:44 am Link to this comment
Dear citizens of Empire,
Romney or Obama: either one is a vote for the
status quo.
A video to illustrate the current state of America and the world:
Graffiti Philosophy
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” -
Jiddu Krishnamurti”
The world on its present course cannot avoid fuel shortages, debt-deflation, fiscal austerity, increasing poverty, political and environmental conflicts over energy and essential commodities, unprecedented global protests against Wall Street financial injustice, political and legal challenges for full reserve monetary reform, climate and humanitarian disasters, further revolution and war.
We are facing the perfect economic storm, in which sacrificing long-term high performing income would guarantee poverty for the majority. Selling public assets amounts to economic suicide.
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By Lafayette, January 21, 2012 at 12:10 am Link to this comment
TIME TAKES TIME
Piffle. This sort or Naive Nonsense overlooks reality. Let’s think beyond our nose, for once.
If the Replicants defeat Obama, we are saddled with a Romney or even worse. How does that outcome fix anything that is wrong in this country?
And there is someone else amongst the Dems who can do a better job? Who? Where? Obama is an incumbent PotUS, with all the momentum that such provides for a reelection. Let’s not underestimate the importance of this factor.
Yes, he disappointed us. After all - surprise! surprise! - he doesn’t walk on water!
What did we expect? We are coming out of the worst recession in 80 years since the Great Depression - and we expected miracles? Miracles don’t work in economics - time to climb out of the hole and restore consumer confidence does. And time takes time.
BE CAREFUL
For the want of someone better, me may well be saddled with someone far worse.
Report thisBy Lafayette, January 20, 2012 at 11:15 pm Link to this comment
KEEP YOUR EYES ON TARGET
Absolutely right. Forget this presidential campaign, it’s a no-brainer. It’s just the run-up to the BigShow in November, which is not the White House.
Let’s concentrate on the Congressionals, where the worser damage has been done by the Koch brothers and their super-PAC funding that manipulated the take-over of the HofR at the last mid-terms.
If change is to come to America, finally, after a hundred years, it must be in the make-up of Congress - both chambers.
We need candidates with more progressive values that will pursue legislation that really makes a difference in the well-being of most Americans. And not a select minority of either 1% or 20% of households.
Yes, boys ‘n girls, America must shift Leftwards to recuperate the economic vigor it once had, by assuring that “trickle-down” economics really works. That is, by means of increased marginal and capital gains taxation the revenues of which are employed in Public Services for a broader spectrum of our population.
How? Here’s how:
* A decent National Health Care (for all across the land) whereas the present lets 16% of us fall through the cracks into non-care oblivion, and
* An Educational system that graduates people with skills that are consonant with the advanced needs of an Information Age. And,
* A host of other programs that will provide the Stimulus Spending necessary to put people back to work.
STIMULUS SPENDING WORKS
It was effective when Obama first took office to contain the damage of the Great Recession. He spent $787 billion (by means of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009) without which we would not have had 9% unemployment but 19% - as happened in the Great Depression.
It worked when Obama fired the Top Management at GM to restructure the company in 2009. GM is once again the largest producer of cars in the world, having pushed Toyota back into second place. Obama spent $85B to bail out GM from the pits.
Have we forgot these achievements, which were stopped dead-cold by the T-Party (T for Troglodyte) and the Replicant HofR? Fiscal austerity never pulled a nation out of recession - it just deepens the hole.
Report thisBy James M. de Laurier, January 20, 2012 at 10:54 pm Link to this comment
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Eugene Robinson, 1/20/2012
Report thisThis is both political and personal.And,a real
centrist would not yield to the left or right.
We are moving forward,where Angels fear to
tread.Know that there is no taking anything back that
was not ours to begin with.We are now in a quagmire.And
the only way to continue now is down,before up can ever
be attempted,if ever.
Thanking you for this opportunity to comment -
James M. de Laurier
By bigchin, January 20, 2012 at 6:28 pm Link to this comment
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oh… so NOW you print it…
hmmm…
curious that…
it takes a direct appeal, huh?
get your act together, truthdig.
Report thisBy bigchin, January 20, 2012 at 6:24 pm Link to this comment
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Fuck you, Mr. Comment Editor, for not printing mine, especially the part about voting for Rocky Anderson and the Justice party, which I suspect is the reason it wasn’t printed.
Your man, Obama, is gonna lose…
ignoring the reasons I offered - and the choices voters have outside the utterly failed two party system - won’t change that.
pathetic…
Report thisBy Alice Lillie, January 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment
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While, obviously defeating Obama is key, I think that is not the real issue here.
The issue is the restoration of individual freedom and an end to imperialism.
All the Republican candidates, save one, is treating this race as a sport
competition in which the main goal is to defeat the rival, the rival being Obama.
Ron Paul is serious about this and is concentrating on solving problems. He
knows what the economic problems are and how to solve them without leaving
people out in the cold. He’d bring troops home and close embassies, saving
troop lives and trillions of dollars. Savings can be used to help people. He’d get
the regulatory and tax burden off all our backs, which would help small
businesses and middle-class families the most.
He’d restore Constitutionally guaranteed rights by getting the federal
government out of our lives and by strict construction of the Constitution.
Meanwhile, the other candidates are basically in Obama’s camp on most issues
Report thiseven as they trumpet how the main issue is to get rid of Obama.
By oddsox, January 20, 2012 at 4:20 pm Link to this comment
BBFmail, so you’ll be voting for Ron Paul then?
Report thisBy BBFmail, January 20, 2012 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment
One posters says:
Obama has been effective in foreign matters but a weak and distracted President at home.
Yes…Obama has been very effective in foreign policy. His very effective support of NATO’s illegal invasion of Libya..effectively ended the lives of an estimate 30,000 Black Libyans.
http://blackagendareport.com/print/content/butchering-gaddafi-america’s-crime
The Butchering of Gaddafi Is America’s Crime
by BAR executive editor Glen Ford
“Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton appeared like ghoulish despots at a Roman Coliseum, reveling in their Libyan gladiators’ butchery.”
Last week the whole world saw, and every decent soul recoiled, at the true face of NATO’s answer to the Arab Spring. An elderly, helpless prisoner struggled to maintain his dignity in a screaming swirl of savages, one of whom thrusts a knife [4] up his rectum. These are Europe and America’s jihadis in the flesh. In a few minutes of joyously recorded bestiality, the rabid pack undid every carefully packaged image of NATO’s “humanitarian” project in North Africa – a horror and revelation indelibly imprinted on the global consciousness by the brutes’ own cell phones.
Nearly eight months of incessant bombing by the air forces of nations that account for 70 percent of the world’s weapons spending, all culminating in the gang-bang slaughter of Moammar Gaddafi, his son Mutassim and his military chief of staff, outside Sirte. The NATO-armed bands then displayed the battered corpses for days in Misurata – the city that had earlier made good on its vow to “purge Black skin” through the massacre and dispersal of 30,000 darker residents of nearby Tawurgha – before disposing of the bodies in an unknown location.
Report thisBy christian96, January 20, 2012 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment
The wealthy Republicans have been getting by with
Report thisthe low tax rates for years. Now, they are putting
out the propaganda that they need to cast Obama out
of the White Hose to maintain their low tax rates.
As we use to say in West “By God” Virginia, “BULLSHIT!” Obama has been in office four
years and he hasn’t changed their greedy pursuits.
What makes them think he is going to change now?
They will maintain their low tax rates regardless
who the puppet is in the White House.
Basically, I’ve stopped watching news broadcasts
because I know it is going to be lies, deception,
and spin until the election in November. Yesterday,
I decided I wanted steak to eat so I went to a local
Golden Corral for the first time. The lady assigned
to my area was in her 60’s to early 70’s. I ask her
if people are suppose to leave tips because in places like this one up north(I live in the Sunshine
State now) people are discouraged from
leaving tips. She said, “Oh, honey, yes! We only
make 4.29 an hour. We depend upon our tips.” I ask, “4.29 an hour. What happened to the minimum
wage?” She replied, “Oh, that is for non-eating
bussinesses.” I didn’t know that. Of course, there
are a lot of things I don’t know. I wonder how many
people in America know the old ladies working
in eating businesses are only getting 4.29 an hour?
They sure aren’t going to learn about it by listening to the talking puppets on the evening
news owned by the greedy deceptive wealthy scum
of the world. The talking puppets are too busy
diverting attention away from the plight of the
poor unto such serious issues as the past love
life of a politician.
By gerard, January 20, 2012 at 3:10 pm Link to this comment
How long is it since we were forewarned to “follow the money?” And what have we done about that during those decades when money has been buying politics and law, and is becoming an increasing dangerous problem?
Report thisNow that the entire body of the snake has emerged from under its rock, how earnestly are we continuing to support Occupy Wall Street, for instance, and/or the freedom of the Internet and the helpful efforts toward open information thanks to WikiLeaks, Manning and Assange and the uncensored internet?
And if we continue to hide from the snake in hopes that there is safety in injustice, then what?
By ardee, January 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm Link to this comment
The Obama administration, to state the obvious, doesn’t look like any of its predecessors. In its diversity, however, it does look a lot like the nation.
If the nation was composed of former Wall Street CEO’s….......Robinson is going to hurt himself, I fear, in his stretching to make the sow’s ear of Obama into that silk purse.
Report thisBy Textynn, January 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment
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Neither Obama or Romney is acceptable. They both have represent the OnePercent and the Banks
ROMNEY TOP DONOR IS
Goldman Sachs $235,275
This is double what Goldman Sachs gave Obama and they own Obama, so what does that tell ya. Obama to appoint the incompetent Larry Summers after his horrible track record and all the rest of the Bankers running this country.
Anyone voting for either of these candidates should be slapped silly. And any site pushing either of these candidates is 4 square against the Occupy Wall Street Movement, PERIOD, END OF STORY.
Report thisBy Allan Krueger, January 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment
This shows the priorities of the GOTea party - they don’t give a shit about the people they were elected to serve!
Report thisBy bigchin, January 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment
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you can not be serious…
who is surprised or even cares that the GOP wants to unseat a Democratic president. that’s politics, huh?
and it’s no different from the Democrats who want to keep another GOP candidate from taking the White House. that’s politics too, huh?
but how does your decribed need for “real issues” to be discussed conform with the Obama campaign which is running on the “we’re better than the other guy” theme?
what credibility does Obama have running on real issues, aside from the credibility he has won by insisting on promoting and passing mostly GOP legislation? is it Obamacare or Romneycare? Aren’t they the same thing?
How about NDAA and the authority to incarcerate Americans without due process? How about the torture and rendition issues which Obama has continued? Extra-judical assasinations anyone? And his escalation of the war on drugs by way of medical marijuana? And what of Eric Holder’s massive conflicts with the financial industry - where he used to work - and his failure to prosecute white collar criminal banksters and Wall Street? Meanwhile, Obama continues to push a completely unsupportable and totally gutless settlement of foreclosure fraud thru Donovan and Miller.
I could go on and on and on with reasons to not vote for Obama… which Mr. Robinson consistently elides while waving pom-poms and telling us he’s better than the other guys.
after fifty years of my life being strait jacketed by a bi-partisan attack on the working classes, i have little to fear that a Romney would win over an Obama. One will shoot us in the head with a gun, the other will run us down in his limousine and in the end we are dead either way.
SCOTUS? I didn’t vote for Scalia, but every Democrat in the Senate did. I didn’t vote for Rehnquist, Roberts or Alito either but they got through just the same, with plenty of Democratic votes. Kagan and Sotomayor? Two utterly mediocre pro-Wall Street neoliberals (Kagan is clearly worse than Sotomayor). Puh-leeez, our constitution has already been rendered useless and there ain’t no goin’ back with the current criminals, from both parties, who are running the show.
the GOP is a fraud.
Romney and the rest of them are frauds.
the National Democratic Party is a fraud.
Obama is a fraud.
Vote for JUSTICE - vote for Rocky Anderson.
And Mr. Robinson would do well to use his impressive intellect to write something that is intelligent. That he has so willfully become another Stepford Dem is beyond depressing.
(Stepford Dems… hey, I like that!)
Report thisBy oddsox, January 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
“All the GOP contenders, to varying degrees, have sought to demonize the president.”
—ER
Yes, and that’s a tough road to travel.
Obama’s a nice guy and a fine family man.
The electorate, as a whole, won’t buy portrayals to the contrary.
At the same time, defending his record will be the hard road for Obama.
This story gives a hint on how he might try:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/15/andrew-sullivan-how-obama-s-long-game-will-outsmart-his-critics.html
Obama has been effective in foreign matters but a weak and distracted President at home.
As for the “long game” portrayed in the article, we’re on a path to permanently high unemployment and eventual economic ruin.
The electorate, as a whole, won’t buy portrayals to the contrary.
So, sadly, Robinson and the rest of us can expect plenty more personal attack ads from both sides. It’s going to be a nasty, negative campaign and we’re just getting started, Folks.
Report thisBy Mayfly, January 20, 2012 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment
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Paco’s comment above is absolutely correct!
Report thisBy gerard, January 20, 2012 at 11:43 am Link to this comment
I’m waiting for someone to do a video cartoon on this subject. The scene is a chicken-yard. One farmer labeled Republican is chasing four chickens with an ax over his shoulder—chickens named Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and Paul. Another farmer labeled Liberal Democrat, with ax in mid-air, is chasing one chicken labeled Obama. Feathers are flying. Outside the fence stands Mr. Wall Street, smiling and flicking ashes off his cigarette. Or is that all too subtle?
Report thisBy madisolation, January 20, 2012 at 11:31 am Link to this comment
“Voters should support Romney, the narrator says, because “beating Obama is the most important issue.”
Am I the only one to find that weird?”
It’s no more weird than liberals saying we must for Obama in order to keep Mittens out of the WH.
The truth is, it will make no difference if either gets the job: they’re equally evil.
Ron Paul 2012
Report thisBy 60YearsRockin', January 20, 2012 at 11:17 am Link to this comment
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I have deep empathy for the frustrated, the angry, the dispossessed, the disenfranchised, the stunned. For us, reality resembles nothing like our highest, deepest hopes for our communities.
I have even more sympathy for the victims, those who aren’t blogging but are physically, mentality, socially, financially suffering.
Let’s make sure everyone understands: the elections are a carnival show (profiting the candidates, parties, hangers-on and reporting media). The problems and solutions we seek are structural. Until WE find that enough of US are not willing to participate in the pre and post election charades of genuine democratic processes (always, always look for the money), WE will be blogging forever. Entertaining, but unsatisfying.
Get The Money Out!
Report thisBy prisnersdilema, January 20, 2012 at 10:45 am Link to this comment
To the 1%‘ER’s it’s perfectly reasonable…power to the plutocracy, at all costs, onward
to war with Iran, no taxes on the wealthy, ignore global warming…
Are you sure Obama is willing to do more than pretend?
Report thisBy A Bird in the Hand, January 20, 2012 at 10:19 am Link to this comment
We don’t need a Newt, a Mittens, nor an Obomber…
We need a Ron Paul.
Report thisBy Dr Bones, January 20, 2012 at 10:14 am Link to this comment
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The last thing the corporate tools (all of them) are going to discuss, are real issues. Such as how the 1/10 of 1 percent is ruining America.
Report thisBy 60Years Rockin', January 20, 2012 at 9:07 am Link to this comment
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There is actually nothing confusing about this spillover phenomenon.
An examination of GOP congressional preoccupation during OBama’s tenure has been to thwart EVERY Dem initiative - no underlying substantive discorse, merely obstructionism. They’ve been singing this song so loudly and so consistently to themselves that they are now incapable of having a voice for Main Street or any genuine public policy issues.
Winners vs. Losers. Nothing else.
Report thisBy BrooklynDame, January 20, 2012 at 8:08 am Link to this comment
You’re not the only person to find this weird, Mr. Robinson. Their priorities are all skewed and, whether Democrat or Republican, their focus is a disservice to the nation. The opposing party should present viable alternatives and solutions; their
Report thissole objective should not be just to unseat the opponent.
http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/01/avoiding-the-cuckoos-nest/
By larkohio, January 20, 2012 at 7:51 am Link to this comment
The Republicans made the mess we are currently in. They allowed the banking community and Wall Street to do whatever they wanted and we see where that went. They started the war for-no-reason in Iraq. President Obama has been trying to mop up the mess they created. Not only have they refused to help, they keep trying to steal the mop so Obama can’t! And then there is that other issue, do you understand he’s biracial? I know they deny this, but there it is.
Report thisBy Paco, January 20, 2012 at 7:50 am Link to this comment
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It is a bit odd that Conservatives should be so focused on defeating a president who is really quit centrist and who has been so accommodating to pressure from his right flank.
What is even more odd is that there are so many who say they are progressives, liberals or socialists who likewise are hell-bent on defeating Obama - because he has not lived up to their hopes. Apparently it is important enough to them that Obama be punished for his failings to risk having Mitt Romney or perhaps Newt Gingrich appoint the next two or three justices to the Supreme Court.
There are irrational people on the left as well as on the right.
Report thisBy thecrow, January 20, 2012 at 5:56 am Link to this comment
Or this:
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/the-ones-who-attacked-us/
Report thisBy thecrow, January 20, 2012 at 5:53 am Link to this comment
No, Mr. Robinson, you are not the only one who finds it “weird”.
Yes, Romney is shameless tool. But weirder still is why a discerning journalist like yourself seems content to be a mouthpiece for the corporate state, happily herding your readers down the approved chute so as to ensure that the incumbent face man receives his “mandate”, simply because his administration is cosmetically “diverse”.
You want “weird”? Try this:
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/killin/
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