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Carlos Montes and the Security State: A Cautionary Tale

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Posted on Jul 10, 2011
Carlos Montes

Carlos Montes addresses supporters at a rally outside the Alhambra branch of Los Angeles County Superior Court on June 16.

By Chris Hedges

On May 17 at 5 in the morning the Chicano activist Carlos Montes got a wake-up call at his home in California from Barack Obama’s security state. The Los Angeles County sheriff’s SWAT team, armed with assault rifles and wearing bulletproof vests, as well as being accompanied by FBI agents, kicked down his door, burst into his house with their weapons drawn, handcuffed him in his pajamas and hauled him off to jail. Montes, one of tens of thousands of Americans who have experienced this terrifying form of military-style assault and arrest, was one of the organizers of the demonstrations outside the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., and he faces trial along with 23 other anti-war activists from Minnesota, as well as possible charges by a federal grand jury. 

The widening use of militarized police units effectively nullifies the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prohibits the use of the armed forces for civilian policing. City police forces have in the last few decades amassed small strike forces that employ high-powered assault rifles, armored personnel carriers, tanks, elaborate command and control centers and attack helicopters. Poor urban neighborhoods, which bear the brunt of the estimated 40,000 SWAT team assaults that take place every year, have already learned what is only dimly being understood by the rest of us—in the eyes of the state we are increasingly no longer citizens with constitutional rights but enemy combatants. And that is exactly how Montes was treated. There is little daylight now between raiding a home in the middle of the night in Iraq and raiding one in Alhambra, Calif.

Montes is a longtime activist. He helped lead the student high school walkouts in East Los Angeles and anti-war protests in the 1960s and later demonstrations against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He was one of the founding members of the Brown Berets, a Chicano group that in the 1960s styled itself after the Black Panthers. In the 1970s he evaded authorities while he lived in Mexico and he went on to organize garment workers in El Paso, Texas. He and the subpoenaed activists are reminders that in Barack Obama’s America, being a dissident is a crime.   

“It was an FBI action, as I recall,” Sgt. Jim Scully told reporters of the Pasadena Star-News. “We assisted them.”

Montes was arrested ostensibly because he bought a firearm although a felony conviction 42 years ago prohibited him from doing so. The 1969 felony conviction was for throwing a can of Coke at a police officer during a demonstration. The registered shotgun in his closet, bought last year at a sporting goods shop, became the excuse to ransack his home, charge him and schedule him for trial in August. It became the excuse to seize his computer, two cellphones and files and records of his activism on behalf of workers, immigrants, the Chicano community and opposition to wars. Prosecutors said Montes should have disclosed his four-decade-old felony charge when he bought the shotgun at Big 5 Sporting Goods. Because he neglected to do this he will face six felony charges. The case is to be tried in Los Angeles. 

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“The gun issue was clearly a pretext to investigate my political activities,” he said when I reached him at his Alhambra home. “It is about my anti-war activities and my links to the RNC demonstrations. It is also about my activism denouncing the U.S. policy of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, their support for Israel and the Colombian government. I have been to Colombia twice.” 

“I thought someone is breaking in, somebody is trying to jack me up,” he said. “I was a victim of an armed robbery in December of 2009 in my home. I do have a gun in my bedroom for self-defense. I was startled. I jumped out of bed. I saw lights coming from the front-door area. They looked like flashlights. I saw men with helmets and rifles. I gravitated towards the front door. I didn’t take my gun. I could have done that. I have it there. It is a good thing I didn’t pick anything up and put it in my hand.”

“I yelled, ‘Who is it?’ ” he said. “They said, ‘The police. Carlos Montes, come out’ or ‘come forward,’ something like that. I approached the entryway. They rushed in. They grabbed my hands. They turned me around. There were two police officers on each arm. They brought me out holding my arms. I have a little patio. They handcuffed me and patted me down. I am on a little hill. I looked down the street and [it was] full of sheriff’s vehicles, patrol cars and two large green vans. They were bigger than vans. People could stand in there. They didn’t have any logos on them.… I thought it was an Army truck at first. Later on I found it was from the sheriff.”


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By TAO Walker, July 11, 2011 at 8:58 pm Link to this comment

This surviving Free Wild Human Being is Turtle Clan, and (over a long Whole
Life) has been blessed with Relatives among many Native Nations all around
Turtle and HummingBird Islands….including, by-way-of direct descent, from
Piegan and Northern Dine Parents, GrandParents, and
GreatGreatGreatGreat….GrandParents.  Until recently, though, nothing
“trackable,’’ nor any “record” (even such vanishingly ethereal ones as these here
in cyberspace) had been left in the virtual world-o’-hurt where Nurse Cavlan
has so distinguished hisown"self”....and is so obviously (and “self”-righteously?)
pleased to share some of the details.

“Social justice” and “political points,” and similarly silly “civilized” CONceits
(whatever their make-believe ‘worth’ in the “global” gulag),  add-up to less-
than-nothing, however, in the Whole Natural Living Arrangement of our Mother
Earth.  Only The Living Virtue of Organic Functional Integrity ‘counts’ for
anything here, and no Person or People here expects (or would even recognize)
any ‘credit’ just because we DO what we ARE.

Keeping-score (in a zero-sum and completely rigged ‘game’) does seem,
however, to be a paralyzing (and futile) obsession for many of our tame Sisters
and Brothers.  Nurse Cavlan’s very own too-precious “self” appears prominently
among them here, too, despite his “.....doth protest too much” disclaimers to-
the-CONtrary.

The paid professional MADmen are lying to you, Tame Sisters and
Brothers….because it’s NOT “all about you.”

HokaHey!

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment

C Hanna

Thank you. Also thank you about getting it about paid corporate hacks who come to progressive blog sites and clutter them up.

As for the video where I was “asked to leave” an anti-war demo in Minneapolis, well the deepest irony is that the organizers shown were the anti-war committee. Any in Minnesota know that the anti-war committee is in fact Freedom Road Socialists Org.

It was their membership that was targeted by the FBI and Attorney General for Grand Jury Investigations. Which continue to expand even now, as this story on Truthdig shows.

The Grand Jury Investigations by the Obama AG and with Oily Bombers personal authorization.

Talk about ironies, eh?

Oh and the AWC still control their demos and all 10 of them and their kids are the only ones who show up anymore.

Sad really.

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By c.hanna, July 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment

It is sad that more anti-war people don’t get it when it comes to operating an anti-war movement on the internet. The movement has been an utter failure as we now can see Obama drone bombing more than ever, and opening up more battle grounds.

One of psy-ops best methods (which they have openly claimed that they do) is to go into sites and spend time on comment boards. Imagine, getting paid for doing that!! The lard-asses are on the taxpayer dime and using psy-ops to insure that the status quo is undisturbed. And they sleep ok at night most likely. Out of 310 Million people there will always be takers, who prefer to do parasitic work than to be an actually productive member of society.

I do believe the entire anti-war movement was under-mined by these internet lard-asses sitting in cubicles along with the corpo media’s silver-bit worth of propagandizing.

Most people still get their news from TV and THEY know it.

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By c.hanna, July 11, 2011 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment

At least Chris Hedges is genuine about being anti-war. If he wasn’t we would be hearing how Obama really should be bombing Libya to help the people….which is total consonant dissonance.

Enough people have gone to Libya now and have brought back a complete different story of what is going on there than the corpo media tells us. These countries just want the West OUT OF THEIR LIVES. I can’t blame them.

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., July 11, 2011 at 7:26 pm Link to this comment

c.hanna, July 11 at 7:18 pm
That lady that was hassling Michael Cavlan and his
friends is an idiot as far as I’m concerned…
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Nice one; name calling is so adult when one disagrees
with something said; grow up…

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By c.hanna, July 11, 2011 at 7:18 pm Link to this comment

Reading over this thread I have to agree with Michael Cavlan RN when he speaks about the Obama Administration perpetuating the war crimes that George Bush is guilty of.

I will go farther:

Bill Clinton would also fit the war criminal profile for his Bombing in Yugoslavia.

But the two worse are Bush and Obama.

This is what I have been talking about. People are being dividing in many ways in this nation.

i watched the video that Michael Cavlan was in, and those anti-war people who were trying to shut him and his friends up, are a disgrace.

If you have an Anti-war march expect to be supported by people who believe in protesting ALL WARRING, not just the parts YOU may want to protest.

I don’t understand how anyone with a clear and logical brain can even think that Obama is doing anything different than Bush. Not one person has been arrested. Torturers are still making the circles on the Corporate media.

This is why, on my own blog I chose my name as ‘American Pendulum’ because to me that is what America has become, just a pendulum going back and forth without any change. I support ALL people, whether they are Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Christian, Jew, Atheist, etc, as long as they are anti-war. I read Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, Chris Hedges, and some Libertarians. Dennis Kucinich too. They all want the wars to STOP.

People need to grow up. That lady that was hassling Michael Cavlan and his friends is an idiot as far as I’m concerned and she is no different than MAIN Stream media when she wants to hog the show. I don’t CARE who organized an anti war protest. All people are free to go. Even people who want to say war is ok, have a right to go. She doesn’t own the streets!

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By Bill Jones, July 11, 2011 at 6:49 pm Link to this comment
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And yet this site is infested with people who think we need more government.

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., July 11, 2011 at 6:24 pm Link to this comment

By TAO Walker, July 11 at 8:22 am Link to this
comment
We need look no further than the virtual ‘food-fight’
already taking-place on this thread, to get a pretty
good sense of how effective are the tactics of the
owner/operators of the “global” gulag regime when it
comes to keeping the
divided-and-CONquered ‘general population’ wasting-
away in futile assaults
on each other.
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Ain’t it the truth…

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By TAO Walker, July 11 at 8:22 am
So, “Don’t think twice!  It’s just another day in
pair-heir-err-a-dice.”
===========================
You have such a way with words; I’d love to meet you
some day…

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By TAO Walker, July 11, 2011 at 6:23 pm Link to this comment

Somewhere in cyberspace, maybe, there are those for whom what “Michael
Cavlan RN” finds CONvincing (or not) is virtually a matter of half-life or un-
death.  His usual reception among people participating in the comment threads
on this site, however, suggests that such a venue, if it exists, must be
elsewhere.

Meantime, his bizarre obsession with this Indian’s “provenance” suggests
exactly the kind of paid-for ‘faux fixation’ typical of the very corporate shills he
keeps trying to make ‘others’ here out to be.

HokaHey!

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By norman harman, July 11, 2011 at 5:50 pm Link to this comment
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What’s to say? This is once again becoming common, normative behavior for
the Federal government. Democrat, Republican, so-called Independent, it
doesn’t matter.

If they accept corporate money for their campaigns, they do the corporations’
bidding when they’re in office.

As Hedges has written so often, Liberalism is dead, the Democratic Party is
dead, representative government is dead.

The only thing left to us is civil disobedience and physical resistance.

So, as the Yippies used to say back in the day, “practice protecting your head
from the policeman’s truncheon.”

If you vote, be sure to VOTE AGAINST THE MONEY!

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By TAO Walker, July 11, 2011 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment

“Michael Cavlan RN” probably won’t believe, either, how totally unimportant, in
our Mother Earth’s ‘scheme-of-things,’ is what he believes (or doesn’t) about
this Old Savage….or about anything or anybody ‘else,’ for that matter.  True
enough, there are a lot of nativeamericans who’re greatly CONcerned with those
“rights” he lists….and other such legal fictions, also.  None of us surviving Free
Wild Indians are caught-up in that CONundrum , however.

We aren’t participating in the commentary here because we “give a rats ass
about what is going on in the white liberal blog land.”  None of that make-
believe signifies for us, either.  This Person is doing that, rather, to offer to “the
white liberal,” and anybody interested, some descriptions of what their “self”-
inflicted predicament, now in its terminal stages, looks to a Turtle Island Native
not ensnared in the world-o’-hurt CON-TRAPtion that is the phycho-physical
manifestation of the tormenting retro-viral entities’ “civilization” disease
process….and a specific remedy for what ails the inmates of the “global” gulag. 

Perhaps if Nurse Cavlan wasn’t already so completely “self”-absorbed in what
he is evidently quite CONvinced is THE “solution to moving forward,” he
might’ve noticed by-now that us Free Wild Peoples have no interest, either, in
chasing-after that peculiar media-manufactured mirage.  He might’ve noticed
this Indian’s regular recommendation that our tame Sisters and Brothers would
be much better-off instead just getting-over their sickening “self,” coming
together as Natural Persons ORGANized into Genuine Human Communities right
where they live-and-breathe every Day, and giving their undivided precious
attention to fulfilling their share of our Human Responsibility as a component
in Her immune system.

Guess it’s a lot easier, though, just to “talk talk talk talk talk talk….......,”
whether virtually here in cyberspace, or actually at some meeting, or
oratorically at a campaign rally…..”....ten thousand talking, but nobody
listening.”

HokaHey!

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment

Lisa Simeone

See you in DC October 6th till ??????????????

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By Capt rick, July 11, 2011 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment
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i FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL THAT I DO NOT MIMIC US GOVT BEHAVIOR IN MY PERSONAL LIFE,FOR IF SO, IT WOULD BE OVER FOR ME.

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By Lisa Simeone, July 11, 2011 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

Thank god for Truthdig and the few places like it.  The MSM, of
course, can’t be bothered with stories like this. 

A well-known national TV reporter, in fact, just told me a few
months to, in essence, fu*k off, because not only doesn’t she know
about these stories, she doesn’t want to know.  Those of who do
are, in her words, “lunatic.”

There’s our much-vaunted free press at work.

Thousands of us will be occupying Washington, DC beginning
October 6th.  Maybe our houses will be raided by then, too.  Who
knows?  But we’re still going.  Join us:

http://october2011.org/pledge

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By Bonny Finberg, July 11, 2011 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment
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The organizations that have been targeted by the FBI seem to be the very ones to
get involved with: the article says that “...many of the activists targeted by the FBI
were members of a section of the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, as well as
Students for a Democratic Society, the Palestine Solidarity Group, the Colombian
Action Network and the Twin-Cities Anti-War Committee, National Committee to
Free Ricardo Palmera (a Colombian political prisoner).”
By circulating these names all over the internet you perform an act of resistance.
One that dilutes the fictitious, esoteric presentation of these targets based on
paranoid thinking. The more known, more open, transparent, outspoken these
organizations and their supporters, us, are, the less effective the attempts to
silence them. If their numbers swelled, outsizing the tea party, we might have
some chance of regaining public power.

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By Jim Pharo, July 11, 2011 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment

Their genius lies in the fact that not 1 person in 1000 in the US would accept as
truthful the fact that 40,000 people a year get a knock on the door in the middle
of the night and have their homes tossed, pets killed and are whisked away on
nothing more than the government’s say so.

As long as they control the machinery of mass opinion-making, we’re wolves
howling, however nobly, in the wind.

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By Daye, July 11, 2011 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment

The U.S. government is a mob operation that
sells protection & other benefits to the rich &
their corporations.

The government’s first function is to take
money from the middle & lower classes & give it
to the rich, who in turn allow politicians to skim
a share sufficient to provide them with suits,
limousines, sex & other perks & pleasures
available only to those above the law. The
government’s second & third functions are,
respectively, to borrow trillions for the rich &
make the lower classes pay off the debt or go
starving, & to humiliate, threaten, disgrace,
terrify, bankrupt, strong arm & if those
measures fail lock away all who object or resist.

At this time the chief racketeer is BO, who has
- or will have - a billion dollars to spend on his
next campaign. Those who give BO the wee bits
& pieces of his billion regard that sum as just
plain picayune. They are playing at least $649
trillion dollars in the derivatives market alone,
which is 649,000 times more than itty-bitty BO
gets to play with.

BO’s the Mob Boss, but even he is just a
babbling 3 year old baby in a tub playing with a
little dime store plastic duck.

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By c.hanna, July 11, 2011 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment

I saw something wrong with Obama before he got elected. He confirms everyday that I was right not to vote for him.

The Corporate media has done a superb job in propaganda and in dividing the people of America further against one another. It is a shame that the left is now divided based on Obama. The FACTS are in on Obama, Clinton, Biden, and many of the other so-loved democrats that some on the left cannot seem to sever their ties. They don’t see that these people are doing the bidding of their masters who remain hidden behind the curtain. Although, with the internet, even those behind the curtains are being exposed.

I was appalled to read some of the tripe coming from the pen (keyboard) of Juan Cole, who had been highly against the warring and invasions until Obama (his man) got into office. Now, he regularly quotes the international organizations and smears any national laws. The instigators are an international cartel, from what all the facts tell me. Sovereign nations, INCLUDING the U.S., are the targets of this cartel, because they get in the way of Global governing. Each nation should be able to direct its own course, not the IMF, World Bank, UN, etc.

The divisions the Media plays on and propagandizes for in America serve no one but the elites.

They will continue on with their authoritarian police state as long as people believe their garbage.

Now, CNN is bringing in the next step of destroying the Constitution, when they have shows on calling for the Constitution to be “corrected”. The first step was Bush’s war on the Constitution, but the Media, under the guise of “justice” and “fairness” is now talking Americans into discarding the constitution all together now.

A guy was recently telling me “we need to rewrite the constitution”. I noticed later that this CNN slop was dated before this guy told me this…he obviously watches CNN. Point is, they will get people on-board over some minor details but if it ever does get “rewritten” in the Halls of Capital Hill, know that it will be to tweak it against the people further.

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By ControlledDemolition, July 11, 2011 at 11:08 am Link to this comment

humm…

domestic terrorists, homeland security, patriot act…

what event legalized all this, rationalized it for the public mind?

(i know, i know, the excuses “war on drugs,” “illegal immigration” and such also keep up the facade for the National Security State.)

but for my evaluation of evidence (not “belief”) 911 was clearly false-flag, as you know unless you don’t “believe” it.  I repeat myself: Obama makes me want to t’row up.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 10:27 am Link to this comment

Laws456

I was a street medic during the RNC in St Paul 2008.

Get ready for the bullshit but do NOT let them frighten you off the streets. IF I am able I will probably come do medic duty there. As well as the DNC.

Yes. Democrats attack peace activists too

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By gerard, July 11, 2011 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

Terrorism is a contagious disease.

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By TheGodKiller, July 11, 2011 at 9:56 am Link to this comment

You’ll be lucky if the government tries to silence you. At least then you’ll know what you say actually matters some.

The thing that worries me about the US is the lack of censorship when it comes to anti-war, anti-government sentiment. They haven’t been afraid of you guys one bit.

But maybe that’s changing now.

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By John Sullivan, July 11, 2011 at 9:22 am Link to this comment
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Barack Obama, acting on behalf of his abusive husband, the Republican Party (and their mutual dad, corporate America).
On the way back from Iceland a few weeks ago, my girlfriend and I were detained at Keflavik airport because the TSA ordered their airport security to take us aside for further searching. The Icelanders were very professional, non-invasive, and clearly embarrassed that they had to subject us to this (nothing compared to Montes, but all part of the same tyrannical stew). I felt sorry for them.
Those of us who are ready to challenge this system are in the minority. Obviously the Democrats are useless. To quote a bumper sticker, “Buck Ofama.” :-D

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 9:13 am Link to this comment

The FBI approach the US Attorney General (in this case Eric Holder) for a Grand Jury Investigation. The AG then approached the Executive Branch, the president (in this case Barack Obama) to OK the list for the said Grand Jury Investigation.

That is how it works.

It is Democrat apologists who are filed with hatred JD. They smear and attack any and all who expose the Dems for their complicity in, well take your pick these days. They use terms like “oh you are a Tea Bagger” or “Left Wing Looney.” Or indeed Obama’s guy Emmanuel who called us “morons.”

Our crime?

Speaking the god-damned truth.

Ask Ralph Nader. That real American hero can tell you all about it.

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By Laws456, July 11, 2011 at 9:09 am Link to this comment

It will onyl get worse as more people become frustrated and look to protest to relieve some of their anguish. I’m in Florida and the RNc will be here next year, I’m sure many of my people will be raided in the next few months…

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 8:54 am Link to this comment

Speaking of which

Leonard Peltier has just been put in the hole.

Here is the latest including what the Leonard Peltier Defense Committee are asking people to do.


Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 1:42:47 PM
Subject: Mass Call-In to CNN for Indigenous political prisoner Leonard Peltier on Monday, July 11


Mass Call-In to CNN Monday, July 11, 2011

Join us in a coordinated mass call-in to CNN on behalf of Leonard Peltier.  Shut CNN down until they realize they have a story.

On Monday, July 11th, at 10 a.m. (Eastern Time), start calling with your statement.  It is important that the calls to CNN start promptly at 10 a.m. Insist that they cover the injustice posed by the continuing imprisonment of Leonard Peltier.  Advise them of Leonard’s current situation (see http://lpdoc.blogspot.com/2011/07/leonard-peltier-in-hole-at-lewisburg.html

), and tell CNN personnel that they should contact the Leonard Peltier Defense Offense Committee at 701-235-2206 for information and referrals.

Then call back and ask for specific news anchors to cover/respond.  Remember to be firm, but polite. Tell them freedom for Peltier is the only solution to this 35+-year injustice.

They may tell you that they get their stories from their affiliates (local) channels.  While this is true, it is also true that they cover both whatever they wish and stories that demand coverage.  We MUST demand coverage. 

Call CNN at 404-827-1500 at 10 a.m., Monday, July 11, 2011.  Dial one for both of the first and second automated prompts/choices.

You also may submit story ideas online.  Visit http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form11e.html

to submit a story idea or http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/newstips.html

to submit a news tip. 

Or Tweet them:  @TeamCNN.

——

Launched into cyberspace by the
Leonard Peltier Defense Offense Committee
PO Box 7488, Fargo, ND 58106
http://www.whoisleonardpeltier.info
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

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By JDmysticDJ, July 11, 2011 at 8:52 am Link to this comment

By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11 at 2:15 am Link to this comment

“Which was personally authorized by….
President Barack Obama.
Do not believe me?”


No I don’t believe you! Nor do I believe Hedges’ passionate, well meant, distorted exaggeration regarding Barack Obama being personally responsible for the very real violation of personal freedom which he documents.

Unlike you, I will require some documentation verifying that Barack Obama had personal involvement and directed this very real and despicable violation of political freedom.

You are a fanatical extremist who condemns all who do not share your fanatical beliefs, your bizarre fanatical thinking is reminiscent of the perverse lunatic Symbionese Liberation Army, or the tragically counter productive Whether Underground, but your loud mouth is your weapon of choice for advancing your deranged radicalism.

Not only do you condemn Amy Goodman, Michael Moore, Chomsky, Hedges and anyone else that does not agree with your fanaticism, but you also condemn the victim of the travesty of justice Hedges documents, and accuse him of being affiliated with a far-left radical group he denies affiliation with, a group which is to you not radical enough.

You make some valid criticisms, but you go far beyond valid criticisms to expose yourself as being a fanatical whack job.

Your comment should read, “Don’t believe me, I am a fanatical whack job!” It is Carlos Montes that has credentials here, his credibility is beyond reproach; your credibility is non-existent, destroyed by your own ravings. Stand down and shut up moron, you are a detriment to fighting creeping fascism, and reactionaries can effectively use you as an example of, to be feared, left-wing lunacy, and there-by discredit the Left to those inclined to listen valid criticisms, but not deranged fanatical ravings.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 8:49 am Link to this comment

Tao

I still do not believe that you are an actual Indian.

But in case you are.

Lets here your solution on moving forward. I mean you do talk a lot. So lets hear it.

As an aside, the Indians (Natives) I know are much more worried about things like Treaty Rights, Sovereignty Rights, Hunting Rights etc etc.

They tend to not give a rats ass about what is going on in the white liberal blog land.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 8:46 am Link to this comment

LogwAK

Agreed 100%. I stopped attending their thinly disguised Democratic Party pep rally after the peace rally that we were asked to leave. For leading anti-Obama chants. Oh and deepest irony, I support them as they are being attacked by the Obama Administration in a Grand Jury investigation.

As for moving on and doing more than talk talk talk

New Progressive Alliance

Or at blog site
firedoglake

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By TAO Walker, July 11, 2011 at 8:22 am Link to this comment

We need look no further than the virtual ‘food-fight’ already taking-place on
this thread, to get a pretty good sense of how effective are the tactics of the
owner/operators of the “global” gulag regime when it comes to keeping the
divided-and-CONquered ‘general population’ wasting-away in futile assaults
on each other.  The politico-eCONomic shell-game, meanwhile, goes-on
essentially un-CONtested, by mobs of muddled ‘marks’ just wanting (in the
worst way) a chance to play it for their “self….which is, of course, exactly how
they’re getting ‘played’ already, anyhow’

So, “Don’t think twice!  It’s just another day in pair-heir-err-a-dice.”  Don’t
want to take the word of an old un-reCONstructed Savage on that?  What’re the
odds Carlos Montes, if asked, will say pretty much the same thing?

Welcome to The Rez, tame Sisters and Brothers….your EXIT ramp back into the
Free Wild Living Arrangement of our Mother Earth.

HokaHey!

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By logkAW, July 11, 2011 at 8:22 am Link to this comment

If that is the case, then it is very sad that you’ve decided to stay with this organization for 10 years.  Perhaps it is time for you to move on, instead of just “talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk?”

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 7:49 am Link to this comment

I have attended so many anti-war rallies organized by these folks. They are always the same. Attack Republicans. Blame Republicans for the wars. Bad Republicans. They also REFUSE to allow anybody else but their group to speak or even make announcements at their rallies. That includes not allowing speakers from Impeach For Peace or even announcements from them.

I have spoken to them repeatedly about this. They refuse to budge. I attend meetings, bring it up and they simply ignore it. For the past 10 years I am talking about.

The other guy Adam, asked if he could make his prepared speech that you heard.

They refused. That is why he felt compelled to “rant” into the microphone.

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By logkAW, July 11, 2011 at 6:15 am Link to this comment

Michael Cavlan RN,

Maybe you were booted because members of your group were carrying signs that said “Expose the 9/11 cover-up” and FRS did not want conspiracy hacks to fuck it up.

Also, after briefing watching the video, it’s very clear that you came to a rally that organized by other groups with your own agenda.  You then began to shout and scream on a megaphone after leaders of the organization asked you to work in solidarity with them.  At this point, it doesn’t matter what your qualms are with them about free speech, because at that point you started acting like a child.

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By FRTothus, July 11, 2011 at 4:34 am Link to this comment

Become part of the solution.

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, July 11, 2011 at 2:34 am Link to this comment
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Even in the Soviet communist police state they used to do it quietly.  When people like Mandelstam and Solzhenitsyn were arrested and sent to the gulag it was just a couple of men in trench coats who showed up at the door and took them away quietly.  The show of force is meant to terrorize the neighborhood.  They treat the public here like the civilian population in a war zone.  It is standard policy to terrorize the civilian population in both cases.  Shock and Awe.  We are the enemy.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 2:19 am Link to this comment

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By Michael Cavlan RN, July 11, 2011 at 2:15 am Link to this comment

This man is part of an organization Freedom Road Socialists which actually ejected myself and others from an anti-war rally in Minneapolis, simply because we had some anti-Obama chants in 2009.

Then, in deepest irony the organization was targeted by an FBI infiltration and then AG Eric Holder with a Grand Jury Investigation.

Which was personally authorized by….

President Barack Obama.

Do not believe me?

You tube Minneapolis anti-war as long as not Obama

It was all caught on tape. I am the guy that talked of Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize. Just like Henry Kissinger.

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By Not One More!, July 11, 2011 at 1:21 am Link to this comment

I hope Mr. Montes realizes that the solution does not lie within the democratic party.

Time to vote third party, let’s not give the republican or democrat ‘winner’ more than 50% of the vote, this way it makes it more difficult for them to claim that they have the people’s mandate.

http://www.NotOneMore.US - Take the Pledge for Peace

“I’d rather vote for what I want and not get it than vote for what I don’t want, and get it.” - Eugene Debs

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By Robespierre115, July 11, 2011 at 12:20 am Link to this comment

California has been run like a banana republic for a while now. LA is bad, but the Central Valley is even worse since it’s basically a West Coast version of the kind of rural poverty and equality you find in the deep south. The police out here behave like a paramilitary force, communities live with unclean water, schools are losing more and more staff while the well off live in walled neighborhoods in towns like Hanford, Leemore and Madera. Bakersfield looks like it survived “The Road.” The problem is you have no real alternatives, so the poor whites go for the Tea Party and Latinos just keep hoping the Democrats will eventually deliver on all their bullshit promises.

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