drbhelthi, - “Sixty percent (60) is wishful thinking”.

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The fantasy, the pure fantasy, is in imagining that less than 40% of the people who make up American national security and law enforcement apparatus are well meaning, hard working, and follow the law.

When you know get to know these people the fantasy disappears.

“But then let us not forget that 99.2% of those working in the CIA,
FBI, DOD, FAA and Homeland Sec. are made up of men and woman
who are hard working, well meaning, brave and sacrificing people
who follow the law and work to be decent people for themselves and
their families.  They are not out to mindlessly harm others about
the globe.  People much like ourselves.”       

The percentage is a very nice fantasy idea.  Sixty percent (60%)  is
wishful thinking.

We do not forget that which we do not know.
We do not know that which is not verifiable; we only fantasize such
ideas.
Via creative thinking we conjure up endless fairy tales, and present
them as factual, a pattern broadly applied by REPRESENTATIVES
of all propaganda machines.  The CIA “Disinformation Program” and
the created-in-DC-artificial war on terror are excellent examples of
this technique, both preceded by the NAZI takeover of Germany,
1930-1940, which resulted in W W II.  Operation Paper Clip simply
moved the NAZI HQ from Berlin to Wash D.C., which spread to
other locations in the US. 

Statistical procedures have historically established approximately
eight (8) percent of the populace to be “deviates from the norm.” 
However, the NAZI takeover of the CIA via the reorganization of
the OSS/OSI by NAZI general Gehlin on contract by Allen Dulles
(1946-1947) requires consideration.  The published chronicles of
“whistle blowers” such as Chip Tatum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_6dOsAZfZI  and similar
insiders over the last twenty years, the factual account of CIA
activities around the world by Congressman Ron Paul, and the
revelations of Chaplin Lindsey Williams, THE NORM HAS BEEN
ALTERED. 
http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147#

One concludes that the italicized paragraph was carefully
constructed via erroneous motivation, is the opinion of the person(s)
who penned it, and is non-verifiable propaganda.

gerarlam, June 19 at 7:19 pm

You make a few interesting points.  All things we should continually inquire about.

But then let us not forget that 99.2% of those working in the CIA, FBI, DOD, FAA and Homeland Sec. are made up of men and woman who are hard working, well meaning, brave and sacrificing people who follow the law and work to be decent people for themselves and their families.  They are not out to mindlessly harm others about the globe.  People much like ourselves.

Putting aside Mr Arar and Jose Pedilla (both troubling cases) rendition itself is decidedly not new anywhere on the globe and, unfortunately, often necessary in saving almost countless lives. - At times all that’s left are bad options.

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How many people, do you suppose, would raise their hands in agreement today in President Clinton’s decision, well over a decade ago, to capture or kill Dr. Zawahiri? Even before the president felt he could make a “legal case” against Zawahiri.

As I wrote; all things we should continually inquire about.

I was certain that the US supreme court would look into the Maher Arar’s case as we would have known for sure, if the USA acted illegally by sending a citizen of a neigbouring friendly country to be tortured.

We now understand that for the USA, the use of torture on free citizens is a way of doing things; the USA of America has accepted and approve the use of torture on any citizen of the world if they get hold of him.

It is even dangereous to change flight in an american airport.

And worse, in my opinion, we have just lost the thrust that we had put in president Obama to act humanly and fairly and legally. The lgislative and the excutive power got together on this one. Very bad.

No man coud be in a better position to understand the present situation as president Obama whose ancertors , in the USA have been unfairly treated , tortured and lynched.

That proves that they lie to the people ‘‘Yes we can’’ when they want to be elected, and after the élection they just laugh at the people at the tought of how naive they were to elect them.

ofersince72,

Sent you a private mssg.

That was a while back I believe Go Right, probably
don’t remember.

My brother lives in Burlington, he is the one that
got me interested in cycling back in the seventies, he
is six years younger.
  He has cycled quite a bit around the world, Thanksgiving
he went from Florida to my sister’s house in Baltimore,
so I quess he still cranking hard.
It is fun isn’t it !!!

ofersince72, - {GoRight} “is great at pointing
fingers but has little to offer in solutions.”

What was that about?....Felt like a nuanced slight

-

I ride a 2008 Coda Composite hybrid by Jamis w/Brooks leather saddle.  Just returned from a 10 day solo tour through S.W. Vermont.

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Didn’t know that but so what, I had grown tired of that one
which ever it was and ended my notification when another
comment came up.

Hey Samo, did you know we cencored?

they took down your down ur response to suavy
and my fax # to pelosi over on that thread

I wish the young understood how little time it takes
to become a proficient cycler, in less then two months
time they would be able to crank out fifty miles without
breaking a sweat, get the adrenaline high, which is better
than any drug you can buy, be able to drink six beers
and not feel it, and just have an overall better feeling
about yourself and life.

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Go Right Young Man, June 18 at 5:23 pm

Damn right on about getting the mummy voted out of office, but
good luck, she probably uses her pork and earmarks to reward
most of the voters in her district and well fed gluttons just love
money rolling in from their favorite mummy.

As for stopping the leak, well if the U.S. military and, navy I
think,  howard huges can pull off a clandestine salvage from a
sunken russian sub in 5km deep water, retrieve 2 nuclear
missiles(armed) and I believe 6 of the dead crew and without
being caught or detected, then we have the wrong damn people
working on the spill in the gulf. Search russian sub k-129,
happened in the late 60 or in the 70s.

http://sub-log.com/russian_submarine_k-
129_and_the_cia_project_jennifer

Go_Right_Young_Man,

wasn’t looking to you for solutions, I doubt any of us
are capable of that right now.
I too have the Schwinn Super Le Tour 12.2 tuned up.
 
Peace.

ofersince72,

LOL…...What types of solutions are you looking for?  I don’t know how to plug a hole a mile beneath the gulf and, to my regret, I don’t know what will make San Fransisco vote Nancy Pelosi out of office.

I do recall how to ride a bicycle, however.

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ofersince72, I know you’re right, for sometime now.

Samosamo,

I believe the American public is to far into a coma for
anything to wake them.

Go_Right_Young_Man

No, you are right , you don’t owe me any explanation of
your evaluation.

Myself, I don’t like making public accusations without
explanations.

Redhorse,  no,  I have never considered
Go_Right_Young_Man a “doubleagent, as a matter of fact
he offers great comment many times. That is why I like
to poke at him, I do have my disagreements with him and
if one chooses to debate him, they should come prepared.
Like many here on Truth Dig, he is great at pointing
fingers but has little to offer in solutions.

****************

Well, things seem to be getting a bit more interesting as the well
has now been detected spewing out odorless methane. Wonder
how the corporate bilderbergs puppets will play with this.

I cannot help but feel bit better about this disaster getting worse
because goddamn it, something will HAVE to move the people to
get off their ass to do something to and about those who’s part,
no matter how small, contribute to this including the goddamn
scum called the bilderberg down to their steroid monkeys of
blackwater.  I would hope that they would use nukes to
‘disappear’ the masses they hate so much because it will leave
more land and water uninhabitable for their ‘day after
tomorrow’.

Speaking of “agendas”,
“It’s hard to believe, but Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) just apologized to
BP CEO Tony Hayward. Worse, this senior member of Congress
called the real tragedy of the Gulf oil disaster not the hundreds of
thousands of livelihoods destroyed, but that BP can be subjected to
a “shakedown”—referring to the funds BP has promised to pay back
Gulf Coast victims. “

When the steering committee of the Bilderberger group has the
leadership of the US Congress in their hip pocket, and guide the US
industrial-military complex into committing genocide in the Middle
East under the guise of “democracy,” when the real agenda is the
mineral reserves in the area ?  The underlying thrust is to genocide-
off as many of the locals as possible, and replace them with
Blackwater/Ex types and their hired puppetry.

When the same group votes down the legal right of the US Congress
to investigate the alleged “US Federal Reserve,” whose leadership
consists of Bilderberger pawns ?

When israeli pawns of this same group want Uncle Sugar to attack
Iran with American military lives and American military might,
while, “Israel will back you 100%” ? 
Right, with almost three hundred nukes, provided by Bush I, Clinton,
Bush II, at junkyard prices.

Right !  First, you kill off a couple thousand Americans while killing
off a couple million Iranians, and we will hide in our bunkers while
you kill each other off.  And afterwards, we can brag, “Look what a
good job we did !”  Similar to the Twin Towers.

And some of us quibble that the honorable Mrs. Amy Goodman “has
an agenda” ?

A psychiatrist friend of mine of forty years ago called this, “shit
thinking.”  Not very technically accurate in Latin, but probably
pragmatically very accurate.

I have been watching Amy for years,
I have Her book here, along with Naomi Klines.
when first watching Amy I thought I would get a non bias, neutral, fair account, someting like honesty, yet over the years She has her beliefs and preferences, example how she handled the Israel vs Turkey-Iran issue. I suggest, Like I told Naomi Kline Put ON a Full length Burka and sit in the hot sun for 2 hours. Then look in the mirror and ask yourself “can I do this the rest of my life?”, supporting Hamas-“We love death as much as you love Life”, no rights for women yet they support, Gaza and Hamas Lebanon and Hezbolla, these folks like Iran execute Gays daily, and yet they support these factions against Israel. Everyone has their hidden agenda Amy has hers, democracy now is most time right on, but when they blow you know it!

OFER72—I agree w/G-R-Y-M that Goodman is a little slanted on the occasional news topic. Her agenda is about as what we call “left” as “left” can be.  “Left” is defined as communist/socialist by the so called “right”. I see her as Humanist.

      I don’t think G-R-Y-M is a double agent (as proposed by Mr.ELLIS) I believe he just illuminated the flip side of the coin.  There are some heinous individuals out there that’d like to cut our throats.In all fairness the shadow boys ain’t all bad and the line dividing dark and light runs through all of us. My rage is w/the greedy psychopaths that put the Arabs, you,I and the shadow boys in harms way for no purpose but personal gain.

      I try to never miss DEMOCRACY NOW.

Offersince72 - “Everyone has some sort of agenda, if he (GoRight) suspects that she uses DN for a personal agenda , then he should share it with us rather than just make casual accussations.”
_

I admit to being perplexed by your insistence that I share any personal feelings I hold toward Ms. Goodman.  Aside from your own curiosity what is the relevance?

I agree with you that everyone holds their own bias and agenda.  What I am passionate about is how Ms. Goodman will, I believe, ignore a great deal of context to reach her conclusions on many extremely weighty issues. 

With that said; I do believe Amy Goodman brings talent and substance to the table.  She asks good questions that need to be asked.  That does not suggest I have to agree with her conclusions.

-

I can try to satisfy your curiosity.

Ms. Goodman is popular on this Web site.  She assumes the United States is the cause of most of the worlds ills.  That is the lens through which she sees global events. She is simply not an “out of the box” thinker. - She seems dependent on the boxes she has built.

I disagree and do not hesitate to say so.

“How many received no attention and got a bullet in the head or are
now locked down in some hellhole?”
- or were stabbed 22 times with a knife by misguided “agent pimps”
who reported the death as a suicide? 
- “Suicides” have significantly increased among American soldiers in
the last eighteen months. 
- “suicides” have especially increased among folk who revealed the
dirty insides of the US Gov and the US Army.
- or as in the case of D.G. “Chip” Tatum (Tatum´s Chronicles) former
CIA operative.  After a couple years of revealing some of the
innermost secrets of the NAZI GHWBushSr administration - - - -
the remains of his tortured body washed ashore on a caribbean
island.
- while thousands of innocent Moslems remain in illegal, secret
lockups scattered around the world - for which US taxpayers are
footing the bill. 
- how many Americans have been swept off the streets into a
Bush/Cheney Stalag remains unknown - except to their pimps.

Absolutly Redhorse,,

Also if they were to take Democracy Now away from us
we would really be more of a mushroom than what we are.

I have asked Go_Right_Young_Man on several occasions
what his beef is with this news service but he will
never explain, he always accusses Goodman of having
a personal agenda but won’t say what this agenda is.

Everyone has some sort of agenda, if he suspects that
she uses DN for a personal agenda , then he should share
it with us rather than just make casual accussations.

My personal interest in this dogfight is, in Nazi Germany, at firsr, Fascist torture, murder and disappearance was applied to political enemies but later extended to include any citizen for any expedient. (sex-real estate-art-access to a bank account-collaboration) Jewish accounts confirm that Nazi village bureaucrats often organized mass rapes, murder and pillage of real property and possessions. It was insane, but all it needed was paperwork and an informant to make it legal. Modern example: Monsanto bankrupting American farmers and their seed crops through the use of paid informants, professional thugs and goddamn insane legal machinations foisted on them by our “corporate” legislators.

    The point of my original post on this thread is that the “legal” system of informants, incarceration for victimless offense and generation of paperwork is already in place. It only has to be merged with so called “terrorists” supermax facilities to be activated and implemented. How hard did Congress fight against the Patriot Act? Do you believe it will go away any time soon?

      The “tell” in this discussion is the fact that none of us are certain of the actual validity of the charges against Mr. Arar or even what they were and, have reached a point where we suspect real news and propaganda in America are interchangeable. This is a case that generated world wide attention and a settlement in the millions and we’re still not certain where we can put absolute faith. How many received no attention and got a bullet in the head or are now locked down in some hellhole?

      The same psychologically dehumanizing illogical insanity alive in Nazi Germany is now manifest in the American politic. Ms.Goodman is asking the question: If it can happen to Mr. Arar, how long before it can happen to you and I?

Everything Is Broken
Broken lines, broken strings
Broken threads, broken springs
Broken idols, broken heads
People sleeping in broken beds
Ain’t no use jiving
Ain’t no use joking
Everything is broken

Broken bottles, broken plates
Broken switches, broken gates
Broken dishes, broken parts
Streets are filled with broken hearts
Broken words never meant to be spoken
Everything is broken

Seem like every time you stop and turn around
Something else just hit the ground

Broken cutters, broken saws
Broken buckles, broken laws
Broken bodies, broken bones
Broken voices on broken phones
Take a deep breath, feel like you’re chokin’
Everything is broken

Every time you leave and go off someplace
Things fall to pieces in my face

Broken hands on broken ploughs
Broken treaties, broken vows
Broken pipes, broken tools
People bending broken rules
Hound dog howling, bullfrog croaking
Everything is broken

—Robert Zimmerman

Samosamo & Go_Right_Young_Man

thank you for the info…

I really don’t know how much I will research this
for a couple of reasons….......

I don’t and never did buy this war on terror, even
if 911 came down the way the government would like us
to believe.

With all the illegal acivity that we know our government
has done in the name of War on Terror, to me our govt.
has little legitimacy.  When our gov restores Habeus,
quits rounding up 14&15; yr old boys and locking them up
without charges for ten years, quits offering bounties
for a name, quits secret prisons and rendition, starts
calling these wars by their proper name(resource wars),
I might start believing a little tiny , tiny bit that
they try to feed me in order to gain support and legality
for their actions.  Until a public hearing on public law
107-40, our government is naked as a jaybird, criminals
themselves and belong behind bars.

samosamo, - “Try this web site. - It is ‘human rights watch’ and they provide additional references.

-

Yes.  I have read and studied all of that.  Thank you.

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gorightyoungman
ofersince72

Try this web site. I got it from Jane Mayers book ‘The Dark Side’.
It is ‘human rights watch’ and they provide additional references.

http://www.hrw.org/en/node/77209/section/10

John Ellis,

There is no need for me to attack or disprove your many and varied conspiracy theories.  I have never witnessed you actually prove one of them.  What I see are your strong opinions on every matter posted on this site.

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It is clear that, in this instance, you have the U.S. government guilty of crimes you cannot yet prove.  If I am wrong in my assessment please feel free to take this opportunity to prove your position. Otherwise you are guilty of what you claim toward others.

Post Script:  I rarely read your posts.  I was simply using you, rightly so in my opinion, as an example of emotion over substance. 

If you feel you can prove your position in this incident I will take the time to read it.  We will allow everyone here to evaluate whether or not you have the information which supports your strong opinions.

ofersince72, - “Where can I find those facts about his (Arar’s) arrest?”

-

I need to be clear about “facts as we know them”.  This incident is difficult to fully unpack as nobody seems willing to go on the record.  What we have is an individual making various claims.  Unfortunately there are very few “Facts”.

-

To answer your question: I derived my information from the U.S. Departments of State and Defense, the amicus brief filed in the U.S. Supreme Court, the statements of the government of the Philippines, the Foreign Ministry of Germany, the Syrian Ambassador to Canada, Human Rights Watch, the Toronto Globe and Mail, the New York Times, Al Jazeera, Democracy Now and Mr. Arar himself.

-

To answer your question regarding the media:  There is no single news outlet which I trust to lend full context of any current event.  I rely on the media only as a jumping point.  I prefer, as much as possible, to go to the source.

Does anyone know how many persons,
not yet tortured to death and still alive,
continue to “exist” in the
illegal CIA lock-up in Greece ?

More, more from A. Goodman !
(whose movements are surrounded by facts that she perceives, and
tails whom she ignores)

Congrats to samosamo and gritona for striking the bulls-eye!

Conversely, “pimps” for the illegal system-in-power intentionally overlook factual data, and deliberately refute it when stumbling over it !!!

asking for “facts” is a tall order in these cases. Apparently there were some Syrian dudes Maher once had a cup of coffe with, and it was believed that one of them was suspected of possible connections to al Qaeda. this is how the captures and detentions, renditions came about. read that again and see how many weasel words there are. the u.s. after 9/11 had no interest in facts or proof or evidence- any Muslim could be suspected of possible ties to al-Qaeda sympathizers. or whatever. then here come the cuffs, the hood and it’s off to prison forever no charges, no evidence, no habeas, no notification to family.

there might be around 60,000 still being detained and tortured in the greater Gulag. and it’s possible that none of them ever committed one terrorist act. I say this because with no charges and no evidence, no one can say for a “fact” that there are any terrorists lurking among them. innocent until proven guilty is still a solid first principle of justice.

Re:
By clipper, June 16 at 8:38 am #

The United States, and Israel have become, especially since 2000 more the Germany of Yesteryear, and will one day be Isolated as well -because of crimes committed without cause.

Ignorance is bliss and you must be one of the most blissful people alive with the exception of John Ellis who is on some really choice drugs.

Go_Right_Young_Man

Indeed it is hard to find a news service that isn’t
slanted, I had always thought Democracy Now was one of
the least slanted, thank you for educating me about them.

What news service do you find to be the least slanted?

Go_Right_Young_Man

Where can I find those facts about his arrest?

Not just what they say they found.

But all the facts leading to his arrest, how and when
they obtained the evidence you say they have.
Just everything you know.

Mr. Ellis is so focused on grand conspiracies, so myopic in his judgments, so certain of what he believes he knows he has “our high officials” convicted of crimes he cannot yet prove.

Mr. Ellis, unbeknown to himself, is guilty of precisely the heavy-hand he accuses others of wielding.  I believe Ms. Goodman and others play a roll in that phenomena.

I am deeply saddened.

millerdunwoody, - “Are you saying that shipping him off to Syria to be tortured was okay because he may have been a bad guy and that was the best way to figure that out?”

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No.  That is not what I believe.  I thought I was clear in writing that I do not have all the details on Mr. Arar’s claims of rendition.

I am, however, curious to know if Ms. Goodman is ignorant of the full set of facts or, conversely, has she elected to omit some poignant facts for the sake of her cause and her readership?

Holding a discourse on the subject of Mr Arar is necessary.  But the conversation is hollow if we do not discuss all the known facts.

-

As an aside: Is it not interesting that most comments so far have completely glossed over Ms. Goodman writing - “investigating the ‘Possible’ role of U.S. officials”? - “Possible role” being the operative phrase.

Many here seem certain that Mr. Arar is an honest man.  I have no way of knowing that to be true.  Neither, I would add, does Ms. Goodman.

GORIGHTYOUNGMAN: TY for the overview of the situation—if true he deserved arrest—but not detention and torture.

      I’m a huge Goodman fan but agree that she sometimes “forgets” to include facts and there is a slant to her reporting—but most of it is spot on.

    —-Mmmmmmmmmmmm—secret agent man (lol)—-
       
        See ya—

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I think I will see if I can get a job at goldman/sachs, citi bank, an
oil company, black water, or even canada or china. Shit the
people in this country are so non responsive to having not just a
war declared upon them by the elite with full support and
compliance of the government and military, congress, but
actually being attacked everyday and doing nothing about it as if
it is normal, the way it should be, the ‘way of doing business’.
Trying to live amongst a bunch of yellow bellied losers who
seem to take their own demise as just another spectator sport is
very bewildering to say the least as there is definitely no fresh
air around here any more.

I would say that the msm has MORE than earned its bribe money
worth by its part in this and as well adept as they are in their
profession, I shutter to think what they will have the people
believing next.

I don’t know about Americans in general, but as someone who tries to stay informed and come to conclusions based on fact and reason,this nonsense of refusing to look at past violations of human rights and the constitution is really getting old as day after day new revelations of the corruption and criminal behavior of the Bush regime come to light. Mr. POTUS, if you do nothing more in the remainder of your first(and possibly ONLY) term, besides stopping the destruction of the Gulf,you MUST thoroughly investigate the previous administration and proceed as appropriate with prosecutions as demanded by the evidence. Doesn’t the reported information that Eric Prince is attempting to sell Blackwater and making plans to skip to the UAE(no extradition treaty) tell you something about what transpired under the last administration? Are you living in a sealed bubble or are you more concerned with perpetuating the crimes of the past? One Gerald Ford was more than I could stomach then and as well as now!

I mean to Maher. Its early for me lol. Also I’m
thankful we still actually have Journalists like Amy
with some backbone. With out the force they represent
we would be totally and completely screwed.

Good I hope the canadian goverment spills the beans on
ALL OF IT. I hope someone pays for what happened Maher.

The New American values are Endless War,torture and greed wrapped in a flag
and fed to us by a CIA/Media/Corporate propaganda machine.Who does not
worry that simply commenting on these outrages will put us on a list somewhere?

I am in sympathy w/Mr.Arar and his family and applaud his refusal to become a silenced cripple and victim of the fascist Bush regime. In fact I salute all those unsung heroes (like Amy G.)who have dedicated there lives to give voice to preservation of American Constitutional FREEDOM and who, demand and report on the state of “democracy now!!”. It is noteworthy that the Canadians are standing by their fellow countryman while an American citizen murdered outright by Israel on the flotilla relief ships is ignored by the American press and the White House. I suppose the fact that he was only a “Turkish” American makes the difference.

      We’d all better wake up before corporate media silences the few voices of freedom we have left. Remember last weeks corporate assassination of Helen Thomas? How about their failed attempt on Bill Moyers? You think Ms.Goodmans name isn’t on their list?? There is no light in them. We stand together or we fall, one by one. And, one of us has fallen aboard a Gaza relief ship.

      Illegal abduction, torture and murder is the natural political extension of a nation that supports mass incarceration of its’ citizens for profit and industrial labor, many being locked up for “victimless” crimes—25 to life. Not to be left out, our propagandist media offers the “torture card” for entertainment asking us to gloat and thrill when a T.V./movie cop supplies the image of rape and assault when he/she tells the powerless prisoner: “—-I’m gonna make sure you’re cellmates know all about you—they’re gonna think you’re real cute—know what I mean?—”. This is pornographic fascism that encourages erotic/emotional exploitation of the socially dispossessed and helpless. Why do you suppose many fans of BDSM like jackboots, riding crops and Nazi dress-up gear. Perhaps the phrase corporate megalomaniacal narcissistic capitalist sadist helps you.

      For decades the Fed and small town prosecuters looking for fame, money and headlines have been sending strung out informants into American communities using the conspiracy drug laws to generate mass arrest of the poor. Their victims without the financial ability to defend themselves are held without bail and forced to plead guilty to felony crimes. This is a for profit enterprise. Entire communities have been arrested and jailed. Rarely the rich.

      What can you say about an ignorant government that will invest billions in a prison system while it guts education and destroys industry. “Well uh gee whiz—we thank he wuz a smokin’ pot—”. This is happening while our major banks are knowingly laundering billions in drug money. The Drug War exists because there’s huge money in drugs. Wall Street, the bagmen on K-Street and the boys and girls on the Hill all have their fingers in the pie. Do I need to remind you that the “drug war” was used as a pretext for assault on civil rights and led directly to the Orwellian Patriot Act.

      The Nazi concentration camps were a new form of society. A creation and reflection of a ntional culture. Doubt it? Look at the destructive impact of the Industrial/Prison complex on American art, language, culture and education. “Do you understand rat? Look bit#h, I’ll bust a cap in your a#% right now. It’s just biz—dawg. Whad you tryin’ to p!mp out here anyway?” Nah—I don’t need no edacation—I got my money right here—”.

      There is much speculation about the psychological forces at play within the German people that allowed an obviously insane Adolf Hitler to seize power, destroy and mass murder. Rendition by the Bushites revealed the face of an insane psychotic out of control Republican Administration. To them, the world is their Belsen Bergen. They already have the system in place here and the Xe thugs to do the work. Be silent at your own risk.

John Ellis,

Just try and imagine how not everyone believes as you do.  It’s not a conspiracy. It is simply a fact of life.

Not unlike Ms. Goodmman, I do not know all the facts.  It can be noted, however, that Maher Arar is known to have associated with known extremists in the flavor of Abu Sayyaf.  He was found with high-tech trigger mechanisms and bomb making manuals.  He is known to have written justifications for the Sept. 11 assault and the planned Bojenka plot.

I will repeat that I do not know all the facts. Particularly surrounding Arar’s rendition.  I do believe Ms. Goodman is, once again, displaying her ignorance and/or dishonesty by not reporting all the facts as they are known.

While I agree with some of the positions Ms. Goodman takes I am saddened by her brand of “journalism”.

Another excellent piece from Amy Goodman..

This is daily fare at Goodman’s regular gig Democracy Now .. important topics, well-researched and presented by experienced (and emotionally stable) people. If DN is not a regular stop for you then you are not as well informed as you could be.

As just one example.. check out this interview from yesterday.. absolutely mind-expanding!

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/15/i_love_the_us_republic_and

Adios!

The United States, and Israel have become, especially since 2000 more the Germany of Yesteryear, and will one day be Isolated as well -because of crimes committed without cause.