Aaaand Inherit the Windbag is back with his hatespeech ad hominems against this non-white person.

And then has the nerve to call ME a racist.

Newsflash for dummies:  Racism is a technique employed by the dominant color to keep the other colors down.

I am not white, ergo….

Connect the dots.  This is not rocket science here, folks.

And ageism is sooooooooo gringo.  Evidenced by no one in Gringolandia looking after any aged family members—just throw their asses out in the street andlet them dive the dumpsters at Safeway.

Is it any wonder, I wouldn’t live in Gringolanida if I were paid big bucks?

No brainer.

We need to begin to understand that wars are only profitable for the first ten years. I know, I know, the pressure to go for fifteen (the bar set by Vietnam) from the corporations on the receiving end of the no-bid contracts is fierce, but Vietnam was the prototype, the heyday if you will. It’s been downhill from there, though not of course in profitability. But we really have to start limiting these wars-for-profit to ten years. Beyond that the shit starts to hit the fan.

OK I know people will read the same lines and find so very different truths
therein, that it is truly amazing.  There have been war atrocities since their have
been wars. A clean war will never be fought. Wars are hell. In Vietnam soldiers
were limited to a required 12 month tour of duty and the only way a soldier
could repeat a second tour of duty, was to volunteer to return for another tour
of duty. There were some who did, but most did not. We still had My Lai 4 and
other horrible embarrassments occur and PTSD was rampant among our
returning young citizen soldiers.  Today the “all volunteer” soldiers in Iraq and
Afghanistan have slogged through untold return trips to battlefields with mind
numbing sequential tours of duty.  Even the most adamantly blind to reality
pentagon aficionados have got to see the potential mind field created for
today’s soldiers.  It is an absolute miracle that our soldiers haven’t experienced
more than this one trip over the dark side that just occurred in southern
Kandahar province.  Who do we point the finger of blame at ?  Our Volunteer
soldiers ?  NO, they are also victims here !  If you really need a finger pointing
session to salve your conscience, begin in front of your mirror !  This racist
back and forth bullshit blaming a president , or his predecessor is nonsense. 
The only constant we can point to besides ourselves in this ongoing miasma is
the other constant during this same stretch of horrific time….the pentagon.  We
are a Violent Society . Built and nurtured on Violence.  We have to stop trying to
scape goat a single actor here and deal with facts. Our Soldiers have been
placed in a horrendous situation without end, that would stretch any human
beings level of sanity to the breaking point.  As we have sown, so have we
reaped ! Let us bring our all Volunteer Army home for the rest , rehabilitation
and long term counseling they need and deserve.  As a Veteran I know the
retirement of this stupid arrangement of an “All Volunteer Military” is the only
rational method of breaking this insane gully of continual war we find ourselves
mired in. We must return to a “civilian” military,  with a mandatory national
service requirement.  Our reputation at home and abroad demands it ! The
future of our young men and women require it !

Fred D has it right: The war in Afghanistan was definitively lost the day Bush and his neocon chicken hawks decided to invade Iraq to control Iraqi oil and build the biggest and most modern bases in the world there.
Decided to invade.  Not invaded.  Because they began diverting resources long before the invasion.

Whether you think we should NEVER have invaded Afghanistan or were justified at the time, it’s impossible to get around the fact that the effort there was totally betrayed and undermined by the Iraq invasion.

I see the Moonatic is back with her senile dementia and full-fledged racism.  She fled the corruption of her native land so she could live in corruption-free…................MEXICO!  If she called Black people or Brown people the equivalent pejorative names she calls Whites, she’d have had her hate-filled butt banned long ago.

I must agree with PatrickHenry, Eugene Robinson like many other Black people are subject to the same simplistic trap as many uneducated working white males fell into with George W. Bush. Just because this rich Northeastern Ivy ledge (cheer leading) blue blood moved to Texas, put on a cowboy hat and cleared brush for the cameras they voted for him because they thought he was some one they “could have a beer with”.

Black people react the same way to Obama. I see Black people (men women and children) wearing Obama’s face on their shirts, hats and hanging pictures of this “Uncle Tom” over their fire places next to their grands kids photos.

To say that I blame them for being “fools” after the 200 year physiological “beat down” America has given them would be ridiculous! But Like brother PatrickHenry I will not fall into the trap of trading “political correctness” for truth.

ardee,

It was supposed to be offensive.

All too often one sides with his or her race/ethnicity or religion over common sense or the ‘right’ thing to do or say.

I have never heard or read Eugene Robinson make any critical comment against Obama…ever.

Better to die on your feet than live life on your knees.

blue:

You wore rose-colored 3-D glasses when you were growing up.

The US was a mean yellow dog even before it was Gringolandia—founded on landtheft, genocide and slavery.

Now you just go right ahead and try to tell me how those folks were such nice, honorable people!

Gringos just do not want to get it—that not only will there never be One Fine Day, Chiochiosan, but there never WAS One Fine Day.

Obama is black?

Coulda fooled me.

All this time I thought he was Bush with elevator shoes and shoepolish on his face!

Same 5000 dollar suit. 

Same genocidal gleam in his eye.

I remember writing a poem back in the Pleistocene about a guy I used to play tennis with in Seattle who reminds me now a bit of Obomber.  He was of African heritage, and we used to play at Garfield High School, which in those pre-bussing days was all black.

I think the line went something like:

“John was so afraid of being black
he changed the balls every other game.”

(For those youngsters on this site, tennis balls for many years were always white—and until Arthur Ashe, so were the professional players.)

Texano:

Let me tell you, this Native American GETS IT!

I have not lived in Gringolandia for 20 years.

Moving to Mexico was the single best life decision I have made to date.

The second one may be to beg for a massive coronary by tossing down a few more ribeyes.

By PatrickHenry, March 13 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment

Eugene Robinson will follow Oblabla off a cliff not because he is right or wrong but because he is black.

What a singularly offensive comment.

at this time, no arab country can be ruled without some oppression. the reason for that appears obvious: the vitiating and vicious divide between
arab mobility/islam and those people who hate that class of life.
there is also a division between pious and impious people in US, but not to the degree as it is in egypt, libya, syria, iraq, lebanon.
on the other hand, in emirates, oman, and saudi arabia there appears no division of any kind; the familial [cosa nostra] rule there appears total or
near total.
both israel and the US use such a situation to their advantage.
but at a price! such as demand by arab nobility and sacerdotal class the west remove by war iraqi, libyan, iranian, and syrian govts.
and even in palestine the divide between islamists and nonislamists/moderate islamists appears very deep.
but in palestinian case, the west has sided with secular or mild islamists and not with islamists.
the reasons for that is known: hamas refuses [rightly so] to negotiate with a nonshemitic voelker and fatah does. obviously, it suits the conquering
nonshemites [euros with talmudic cult/national supremacism/nazism] to keep on ‘negotiating’; interspersed with lots of oppression, land theft,
murder, sieges, etc.
it is unclear to me why fatah ‘negotiates’. it does! it makes no sense. it would have been better for fatah to initiate and maintain a massive passive
resistance against the west/israel. i think hamas shld do that as well.
i say this in spite of the fact that palestinians [or any other occupied people] are morally and legally obligated to resist their occupation by any
means whatever.
however, only if there would be sliver of chance to succeed. at this time there appears none. so, i suggest bide your time! don’t go at it alone. and
one day palestinians will be victorious!

The pending collapse of empire.

“Bring the Soldiers home from all around the World and give the World a rest.  The citizens of the United States need that rest also.”

Agreed, bring these crazy blood thirsty mother fuckers home, allow them to become Cops, and murder their own people for a pay check.

Gen. James Mattis, chief of US Central Command (CentCom) told Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday that to get 23,000 US troops out of Afghanistan later this year – Washington needs Pakistan’s cooperation. He is planning to visit Islamabad in a few days to discuss reopening of two key supply lines with Pakistan’s military high command. Pakistan had shut down NATO supply route after US forces killed 28 Pakistani soldiers at Afghan-Pakistan check post on November 26, 2011.

Since then the Pentagon has been using the alternate supply route known as Northern Distribution Network (NDN), a far longer and costlier set of routes running fron northern Afghanistan to Europe through central Asia Muslim states (Kazakhistan, Tajikistan, Krygyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan).

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/us-needs-pakistan-to-withdraw-from-afghanistan/

Eugene, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Bring the Soldiers home from all around the World and give the World a rest.  The citizens of the United States need that rest also.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the people of the World united against the 1% of this world?  Give the guilty a fair trial then Hang em High.

Then there would be Peace on Earth - at least for a while.

Where have YOU been for the last ten years ,what to you mean its time to bring the troops home now .Can you honestly answer WHY they were there to begin with ,lets see ;it was because of Al queda and 9 11 ,yet very few asked why 9 11 happened ;including you .Then the excuse morphed into a Women’s rights issue in Afghanistan ;really ! how much acid in the eyes does it take a blind man to see,Perhaps you should -and I advise It -that you should confer with Malalai Joya as to the effectiveness of the illegal US Nato Occupation and what it has achieved for the Afghan People thus far .Then again the 2014 pullout date does complement the threats being blatantly directed towards Iran ;is that how much time Iran and China and India have to acquiesce.

cheers

Eugene Robinson will follow Oblabla off a cliff not because he is right or wrong but because he is black.

Moonie .. I made nor make any claim that Obama and his Schutzstaffel are unique or in any way badder than the Bush Cartel or the Clinton Cartel or the next Cartel.. My point is that our Mr. Robinson rightly denounces atrocities.. and also correctly calls for an end to our occupation of Afghanistan..  yet still supports the Manchurian candidate Obama.. who is in charge of this whole mess..

I’m shocked and dismayed that you blogger folks really don’t seem to get it.

Have a super day.

South Texan:

The criminal cartel has always been in power—even before Gringolandia was Gringolandia.

I am simply shocked at you folks who wander around trying to shit the rest of the world with this crap about an epoch of bad apples.

All those bad apples fell from the same tree:  The one George Washington planted after he chopped down the first one to try out his axe before using it on Native American skulls.

Give me a break.

Ok Eugene I agree with you. But take your reasoning to it’s logical conclusion.. There will be no real improvement while Obama and his deadly criminal cartel are in power.

Adios!

Yep, bring home those testosterone-crazed grunts now—before they kill all the non-whites in the Middle East.

After all, they are needed at home to slaughter us uppity Native Americans, Mexican-Americans, Arab-Americans, African-Amdericans and Asian-Americans.

i do not expect that one would ever get an elucidation of US foreign or
even its domestic policy from a single MSM columnist. for that reason, i
seldom bother reading pieces by people like dionne, sirota, boyarsky,
lando, robinson, sheer.

The last count I have of private contractors working in
Iraq and Afghanistan is 242,657.  Broken down, 75,000
in Iraq and 167,657 in Afghanistan. 

There remains a question of how the countries have
benefited from the onslaught of contractors - in 2003,
20% of Iraqi city dwellers lived in slums.  Today, 53%
live in slums.  Then again, how do we benefit when a
Blackwater security guard in Iraq earns $1,222/day
while a sergeant doing exactly the same job earns
$71/day.

If Eugene Robinson seriously wants to know “what we are accomplishing”, all he has to do is to add up the number of people who are employed by and getting paid to work for the Armiy, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marines and Lockheed, Grumman, BoozAllen, a passel of private contractors, etc.  Not to mention providers of food, clothing and shelter in addition to those named.  And communications experts.
  Quite a few million who otherwise would be out of a job. And even so, Wall Street slumps now and then and the banks are teetering. The national debt is out of sight.
  Silly question?

Our war in Afghanistan has been and now clearly is
based on a tautology - we must stay in Afghanistan to
fight those who do not want us in Afghanistan.
Something is called a tautology when it makes no sense.

Just saw this on nytimes, “Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain will also discourage an Israeli strike on Iran, a diplomat said.”  What planet am I on?? The west turning down an opportunity to start war in a middle eastern country??  I hate to be optimistic on this website, but I see a strong step in the right direction here.

Yea, a few years late on this eh Eugene?  Anyways, as much as I’d like to see a 90 day withdrawal, just ain’t going to happen.  Given how close we are to a presidential election, Obama can’t afford to look “weak” by letting people in the Middle East doubt the military resolve of big bad uncle sam, especially with Iran hanging in the wings.  Election year somehow allows Obama to accomplish even less than he has in odd-numbered years.  A truly astonishing feat.

Somebody should start a Facebook page
“We Are sorry for the misdeeds of our so-called leaders
Afghanistan People. Signed the American People.”

A couple of questions:

1) Now that we’ve wasted trillions in blood and resources…..is leaving Afghanistan “cutting and running?” Never mind, when the whole nation was in a freakish blood frenzy (whipped up by GWB’s administration) talk of ending our stupid f**king wars was branded as cowardice.

2) I wonder how many Timothy Mcveighs are out there festering, just waiting for “an excuse” to go on a rampage here within our own borders?

We have become a nation of self-deceivers, liars and cowards. This whole situation has made me ashamed to be an American.

Fred you absolutely correct.

Ninety days we’re gone away.

Just Think if it was the Taliban
It would be headline news screaming “Murdering Taliban”
“Lets Bomb Them Now”

i am anxiously awaiting to hear the excuse for this murder.
1"he was tired?”
2 “It was a mistake?”
3” he didn’t know what he was doing?”
4 “That’s war man”
5 “Hey ,get used to it”
Or many other gung ho pentagon phrases.we hear.

“Sounding presidential, Senator Barack Obama said Wednesday he would order a surge of U.S. troops – perhaps 15,000 or more – to Afghanistan as soon as he reached the White House.

‘The terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 are still at large and plotting,’ he said, echoing Mr. Bush’s oft-repeated refrain.”

On that we are agreed, Mr. President.

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/the-ones-who-attacked-us/

We must ask ourselves are we better off now 10 years later by our occupation of Afghanistan?

I’m sure many who invest in war industries are, they don’t want it to end.

Gee, Eugene, just awaken from a slumber?

That Sgt. was facing his fourth deployment, and snapped apparently. Is that what it took to show you the futility of war? Now if you take the next step and criticize your President and his party for continuing the Bush/Cheney debacle I might think you more than a shill for the Democrats.

Ten years of war in Afghanistan and a completely unnecessary war in Iraq didn’t just kill and wound thousands of U.S. soldiers, bankrupt the United States, pervert our national priorities, and expand beyond any reasonable rationalization the domestic dominance of the U.S. military-industrial-security-governmental complex. They have destroyed the morality of our nation.

As much as I would like to see the U.S. out of Afghanistan tomorrow, it won’t occur. So let’s set an urgent yet do-able deadline. I propose a new rallying cry: the U.S. out of Afghanistan within 90 days. No more rationalizations, no more excuses, from either major U.S. political party or any politician.

And to any Republicans who might be planning to blame an accelerated withdrawal on the cowardice of Democrats, I’ll say this: The United States lost the war in Afghanistan on the day your arrogant war-mongering Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld triumvirate decided to instigate an unnecessary and therefore immoral war with Iraq, thus diverting resources from Afghanistan and also stirring up the Islamic world. The blame for a mission NOT accomplished in Afghanistan lies with your Republican former “leaders”, who should be tried domestically for treason and at The Hague for war crimes.

http://www.FredDrumlevitch.blogspot.com