((RE: mmadden, May 6 at 8:08 am>> First, you HAVE to speak the native language which means ENGLISH.))
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Excuse me, but Arizona’s native language is Navajo!!! Perhaps the occupiers speak English, but the correct, native language is Navajo, ask any indigenous person living there. Now the occupiers wish to rewrite the history of its savage occupation to make it appear like the Iraqi’s throwing welcoming flowers onto the path of the marauding invaders, while they only threw shoes back.

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

Wikileaks—Collateral Murder
http://collateralmurder.com/

I finally took the opportunity to ready Arizona’s new immigration law, as well as the related US and Mexican laws. 

Arizona’s law, as previous commenters have stated, is more liberal and racially sensitive than US law and far less draconian than Mexican law. 

Calderon stands in front of the US Congress and is applauded when he belittles the Arizona law.  This is hypocrisy and deception at its most blatant. 

Polls show 4 out of 5 US citizens think states should be allowed to make their own immigration laws, and close to that amount think it is acceptable to ask for immigration documentation papers when suspected of a crime.  US law makes it mandatory to carry these papers and to show them when asked by law enforcement, as well as Mexican law. 

So, how can an Arizona law be criticized by foreign dignitaries and then be applauded by US lawmakers?  It is because these people are deceivers and hypocrites.  It is because their agenda has nothing to do with carrying out the will of the people.  It is because they mock the idea of government, of, by and for the people. 

For the sake of money and power, officials, private and public, can say and do almost anything they care to, with little fear of accountability.  I suppose that is because they know that they are not accountable to the people, but to global powers whose very agenda is accomplished through deception and lies. 

Arizona would have been better off by making a statement that they were going to enforce the Mexican law on even days and the US law on odd days.  It would have spared them some aggravation anyway, and shoved the hypocrisy straight back into the faces of the hypocrites.

Secrecy, lies and deception are the main problems we have in government.  Absolute truth and absolute transparency are the beginning of answers, and the beginning of solutions. 

And with this in mind, we need a law that US officials, at any level, elected and appointed, will be tried for treason for membership in, or when found attending, the secret high-level, globalist meetings of organizations, such as Bilderbergers.

These secret organizations and meetings are an insult to democracy, because these organizations place themselves above the sovereign nations of the world, and carry out agendas based on elitism, not the will of the people.

You all want to hear my immigration reform proposal? First, you HAVE to speak the native language which means ENGLISH. You HAVE to be an investor or some form of a business professional. NO unskilled workers allowed. There will be NO special bi-lingual programs in schools, businesses, or the government. No programs AT ALL will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote or hold political office. Also, if you’re in our country, you CANNOT be a burden to taxpayers. You are NOT entitled to welfare, food stamps, and the like. Now, you CAN come if you invest here; but if not, stay home. Also, if you want to buy land, it will be restricted. No water or ocean homes, for example. And as a foreigner, you have to relinquish the individual rights of the property to the government. And one more thing - no bad mouthing our President, our government, no protesting, no waving your flag or burning ours. You’re a FOREIGNER. Shut your mouth, or get OUT. And if you come here illegally, you’re going to jail.

You think my laws are tough? EVERY SINGLE ONE of them which I just described are ACTUAL LAWS OF MEXICO TODAY. THAT’S how the Mexican government deals with illegals into their country. Yet they come HERE and protest in our streets? Now, remind me again, how do you say “double standard” in Spanish?

The new immigration law in Arizona is based on the Federal law. Here is what the Federal law states:

You might want to read USC Sect 8 (that’s already existing Federal Law) for comparison’s sake.
8 USC 1304(e) states that “Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.”

Unfortunately, the Feds don’t enforce their law since these illegals represent future voters. And why piss of businesses who hire slaves to work for them?

Why not put borders up between each individual state in the US?
That should do it!

The Arizona law has spawned new demands for a federal “comprehensive immigration law”. Unfortunately it seems to me almost impossible to turn illegal residents into legal residents quickly without violating the U.S. constitution, which president Reagan did, because of the huge numbers of persons involved.
Again in my opinion there is no legal road for illegal residents to the status of legal resident without amnesty for having committed the felony of illegal entry into the U.S.A. That is also true for legal entrants who remained illegally thereafter.
The first step in any “comprehensive amnesty” must therefor be a visit of the illegal resident to a court of law to plead guilty of having entered the country illegally. The federal law can ensure that the person will not be arrested, tried or convicted and extradited until a complete review of his/her case has been made by the DOJ. When additional felonies are uncovered there is no choice but extradition.
Our constitution gives the power of amnesty and commutation to the President only and, in my opinion, he cannot give amnesty to a class of unnamed persons by some sort of presidential decree or by signing a Congressional amnesty law that does not mention every beneficiary by name. As I understand it the president must be provided lists of names of persons proposed for amnesty.
I wish there would be a simpler and faster road to legal residency but I do not see one. Am I wrong?
If I am not wrong, then Robinson and other advocates of “comprehensive immigration law” are misleading us by suggesting that there is a simple and relatively fast road to legal residency and naturalization. In reality it will be a road of many years filled with bureaucratic traffic jams.

McTN:
EXCELLENT post!

hello. this article compiled more nonsense than Abbott and Costello. i regularly went to Nogales, when the interstate to Tuscon was lined with criminals throwing rocks at windshields. the suffering of going around the border zone, through the merciless desert: is a pleasant night stroll. the customs inspections are inefficient enough to not require violence. the volume of illegal marijuana has recently doubled, and the weed is wrongly classified as a narcotic. overnight the totalitarian administration could change the classification, and end the illegal pipeline into Phoenix and beyond. a virtual fence was another dot com wet dream. real-time enhanced border communications equipment, and a genuine ‘made in America’ by illegals fence works well: as evidenced in San Diego, and east El Paso. i have ridden a bicycle across the lower United States, so please refrain from declaring the impossible enormity of an actual appropriate “Berlin Wall” fence. ours would be better, and would improve relations with that great sucking sound to the south. they will continue purchasing pallets of AK47 rifles from China, but the illegals will no longer be illegal- they will just be local Crips and Bloods: on the other side of the border, in Mexico, where they belong. there is no way Hispanics are going to sit idly by and allow illegals amnesty without a few lynchings taking place. people legally working their way through the system are not going to tolerate being indignantly mocked and short changed anymore. this desperate groping for racially profiled Hispanic votes is obscene; and what Americans expect from a government functioning above the consent of the people. here there are Hispanics, and there are Americans, and there are illegals. there are only Americans and illegals.

This is one of Eugene’s worst columns. It’s sole pov criticizes the the fence solution as an evasion of real issues. That I agree with. He also criticizes the new arizona get tough on mexicans law as harmful to democratic principles and as unnecessary since border crossings have declined during the past year, probably due to the economy.

I agree that politicians are sidestepping this issue by focusing on solutions that have little to do with the problem. These illegal immigrants were invited here by chambers of commerce and corporations. They were recruited for the purpose of low-wage work.

The decline in border traffic due to economic conditions underscores the problem that must be solved, that is of businesses hiring illegal immigrants.  Crack down on the employers and the illegal immigration problem is solved. Arrest the business owners who break the laws by hiring illegal immigrants.

Getting into a country illegally is almost impossible for everyone except Mexicans coming into the U.S. I wouldn’t even attempt to get into Mexico illegally—they have harsh laws and strict customs that make it pointless and dangerous to try. If caught, you’d be thrown in jail and forgotten, perhaps even shot. Even if I were to succeed at getting into Mexico or Canada illegally, then what? Do you think I’d actually be able to get a job, benefits, schooling?  Hardly.  I’d starve on the streets. But Mexicans succeed because corporate America has built a system for them and they use Catholic charities to paint the crossing as a humanitarian issue. Can you imagine millions of Americans immigrating illegally to Mexico or Canada, getting jobs and creating families, then pressuring those govts to make them citizens? No.

Now there is precedent for making massive numbers of foreigners citizens after years of their having worked in this country as cheap labor. Instead of amnesty, it was called emancipation. That should tell you something about how the Mexicans are actually being used.

Famous last words:  “Don’t blame me for things that happened before I was born.” 

Reminder:  History did not begin when you were born, Carl, nor will it die after you are gone—hopefully. It’s a constant stream of trial and error and as you are part of the human race, I assume you will not be able to escape the consequences of past deeds, whether good or bad, whether yours or someone else’s
  “No man is an island, but each is a piece of the promontory, a part of the main.  Therefore, never ask to know for whom the bell tolls.  It tolls for thee!”  (John Donne, British poet)  The idea behind the poem is called “empathy”,“fellow-feeling”,
“inter-relatedness.” etc.

rfidler:  Thanks for your concern.  While my computer was in the shop, apparently somebody in some way disabled my ability to be “recognized”. TD never lost me as a registrant, but I finally discovered almost by accident that, although I could not re-register, I could log in and that fixes it.
Computers are spooky.

The author writes:

“The notion that the first thing to do is “secure the border” between the United States and Mexico—and only then worry about comprehensive immigration reform—falls somewhere between hopeful fantasy and cynical cop-out”

He writes this as his glorious American Military are “working” to secure the borders of Iraq and Afghanistan, 8000 miles away.

He writes this as his country faces 20% unemployment, thanks largely due to policies implemented by those he claims to respect.

He writes this as Israel is building a wall, paid by American greenbacks.

He’s hardly rational. But he’ll never have to worry about the bills at the end of the month.

Disgusting. Racism is all he and his Beltway Boys have.

gerard:
I see you got your TD “credentials” back. What happened?

Meatpacking is dangerous and was once a solid working class job, paying around $20 an hour in today’s wages. However, they moved the packing plants to remote areas, fired all the Americans, and openly hired illegals. This cut labor costs in half. Watch the movie, “Fast Food Nation” to see how greedy corporate fat cuts run this racket.

Now they no longer fear the remote chance of federal raids, because people like Robinson say protecting American jobs is “racist” and “extremist”.

As for the pseudo historians out there, I was born in 1962 in Texas, I am a native American. Don’t blame me for things that happened before I was born, which is a trick used by corporate spinmasters. In addition, the native Americans and few Mexicans that lived north of the border were lucky and are all U.S. citizens, whose wages and safety are endangered by illegal immigrants of Spanish descent mixed in with Central American Indians.

[Phoenix, AZ.] Don’t be fooled. The way the media plays the story, it was a wave of racist, anti-immigrant hysteria that moved Arizona Republicans to pass a sick little law, signed last week, requiring every person in the state to carry papers proving they are US citizens.

Don’t buy it. Anti-Hispanic hysteria has always been as much a part of Arizona as the Saguaro cactus and excessive air-conditioning.

What’s new here is not the politicians’ fear of a xenophobic “Teabag” uprising.

What moved GOP Governor Jan Brewer to sign the Soviet-style show-me-your-papers law is the exploding number of legal Hispanics, US citizens all, who are daring to vote — and daring to vote Democratic by more than two-to-one. Unless this demographic locomotive is halted, Arizona Republicans know their party will soon be electoral toast. Or, if you like, tortillas.

In 2008, working for Rolling Stone with civil rights attorney Bobby Kennedy, our team flew to Arizona to investigate what smelled like an electoral pogrom against Chicano voters … directed by one Jan Brewer.

Brewer, then Secretary of State, had organized a racially loaded purge of the voter rolls that would have made Katherine Harris blush…..

FULL STORY:
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/behind-the-arizona-immigration-law-gop-game-to-swipe-the-november-election/

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Sick egotistical people, exploiting sick, self-serving, psychology!

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

“Just look at that pile of dead bastards over there”
WikiLeaks—Collateral Murder
http://wikileaks.org/

Maybe ever since the early days of the Republic, there has been a strong “nativist” trend in the U.S.
Who “belongs” here and who doesn’t has been debated, sometimes more hotly than other times.
  One reason for this may be the very fact that from its “beginning’ (1620 or so) people from Europe “invaded” the land without recognizing it as an “invasion.”  No, they were coming because they wanted to “escape from persecution.” That they soon began “persecuting” the indigenous people is an as-  yet-unrecognized sad irony.
  Over a period of 200 years or so they succeeded in killing off enough indigenous people that we could say, with a straight face, “We are the natives now.”
And we have never stopped saying it—and endowing all comers with a second-class rating until they “proved worthy” of citizenship. And even then ... well, from the insecurity we show as “natives” (children of immigrants, all!) by trying desperately to assert our nativity, we persecute “outsiders” from time to time.  One can say from the evidence that being a “native” is never a sure thing with us, but has to be reiterated so that our consciousness of who we are (tenuous as it is) can be preserved—albeit at others’ expense. ???
  Perhaps it would help if we were more conscious of our own histories, various as they are.

It was the U.S. that took over the lands of the
Southwest by military aggression, misleadingly called
the “Mexican-American War”, in reality the “U.S. War
Of Aggression Against Mexico”. Now it is the
immigrant bashers who scream “invasion” when the descendants of the victims of this aggression cross
an imaginary line created by an immoral war of
aggression.

That said, the issue we are confronted with today is
the simple fact that ruling elites in the U.S. don’t
want to pay Americans a living wage. They’re using
immigrant labor to achieve their desired aim of
bringing back the Guilded Age to the U.S. And they
have mostly succeeded.

But we have to remember that it was, say, the owners
of the meet packing plants in Chicago who made the
decision to bust the unions by moving the plants to,
say, Greeley, Colorado, and import Mexican laborers
to work in them for a fraction of the wage they paid
unionized workers, and with no benefits.

It’s just so much easier to pass a law like the one
in Arizona than it is to hold Obama to his “promise”
to renegotiate NAFTA, organize shops employing
immigrant laborers and to create a more generous
safety net for the unemployed. That’s hard work.
Inciting a mob to hunt down immigrants has happened
throughout U.S. history, like with the Chinese
throughout the American West in the late 19th
century. It’s an easy thing to do and it’s racist
too.

Eugene Robinson’s answer for illegal immigration is to reward it.  That’ll work. 

The press is still spinning and the knee is still jerking. “—-without a vision the people perish—-” (That’s not television .) There’s no vision in this article, only parrots mouthing the corporate party line.

  75% of kidnappings occur in latin american countries. Phoenix is now second only to Mexico City for kidnappings worldwide,how did that happen?? Lets all pretend that the invasion isn’t happening and we’ll call anyone who feels concerned about the problem a racist nazi.

  These so called liberals are belly to belly with right wing corporate swine and they all feed at the same trough.

Those born on the wrong side of the tracks will not remain there much longer. The free flow of information on the Internet and the globalization of commerce will shortly make each of us a citizen of the world rather then only of one nation. There will be a fairer distribution of wealth due to the disappearance of the sharp line between the rich and poor. It will not be utopia, but only the evolution of civilization in a positive direction.

Arizona’s radical immigration laws criminalize the majority of Arizona’s population.

The alarming aspect of this is how the masters of the universe begin deflecting the public’s outrage against Big Banks; the current financial doldrums it finds itself, onto the backs of, so called, illegal immigrants/aliens, stealing their jobs etc.

More and more this begins to resemble the Nazi’s as they successfully incited angry minds; blaming all Jews for everything. Once the fire begins, the enraged inflammatory language can easily be fanned to encompass anyone else that threatens a crazed and narrow political agenda.

Of course, at least for now, not everyone is buying into this lunacy, but if sufficient caustic language is caused to permeate angry shallow minds, there’s no telling how far the inferno could spread.

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

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“Just look at that pile of dead bastards over there”
WikiLeaks—Collateral Murder
http://wikileaks.org/

Truthdig’s corporate spinmaster has just finished another work to fool the workers.

First, he insults most Arizonans (and polls now show most Americans) by calling everyone “extremists” for demanding that our government protect us.

When workers were shafted with the 1986 amnesty, which encouraged another 20 million illegals to dash across our open borders, Reagan and Congress promised to secure our borders, but did little. Since then unemployment has risen while wages have fallen. Now we are told the solution to illegal immigration is not enforcement, but another amnesty, and border security will come later.

Part of the solution is to put the U.S. Army BACK on the border to defend remote areas where our Border Patrol agents fear to tread. Please read this article before anyone tosses out old corporate lies they read somewhere.

Here is an article about how this can happen, something that 95% of truthdig readers will agree with.

http://www.g2mil.com/border.htm

This could be done within a year. Will truthout reprint this progressive pro-worker article? Editors? Do you fear the truth? Just ask if you want to post it.

Come ON Gene! Seriously now.

Your roof just blew off in a storm and the house is flooded. You’re advocating putting in new carpet before you put on a new roof.