Future electricity generation costs and availability may cause job problems? 

Standard of living is directly realted to power consumed, I read.

Altenergy may not cut it.
http://www.prosefights.org/pease/pease.htm

Tuesday July 26, 2011 10:31

Hello Mr Thompson,

I assume you are David E. Thompson, PhD Sandia Park who participated in the recent PNM electric IRP.

Question you may be able to answer is:

Where technical experts included to comment on availability and cost of natural gas in the years 2015 through 2026?

Reason I ask is New York Times reporter Ian Urbina is sounding alarms on natural gas.

Here are some quotes from Insiders Sound an Alarm Amid a Natural Gas Rush

Natural gas companies have been placing enormous bets on the wells they are drilling, saying they will deliver big profits and provide a vast new source of energy for the United States.

But the gas may not be as easy and cheap to extract from shale formations deep underground as the companies are saying, according to hundreds of industry e-mails and internal documents and an analysis of data from thousands of wells. ...

But if natural gas ultimately proves more expensive to extract from the ground than has been predicted, landowners, investors and lenders could see their investments falter, while consumers will pay a price in higher electricity and home heating bills.

Please ack if you receive this email.

bill

http://www.prosefights.org/pnmrate/pnmrate.htm#thompson

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China’s demand for the coal, uranium and other minerals that Mongolia has in abundance — but has so far barely touched — is gargantuan and growing. China, which surpassed the United States as the world’s biggest energy user in 2009, needs to find enormous quantities of new fuel to meet what, according to the International Energy Agency, will be a 75 percent increase in its energy needs by 2035.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/china-rich-with-coal-seeks-more-next-door-in-mongolia-to-meet-its-energy-needs/2011/07/01/gIQADIncII_story.html

WHY ARE MOST VOTERS COMPLETELY TURNED OFF BY THE ‘NEGOTIATIONS’ ?

Because their desires are nor represented by either ‘plan’.

We have two competing Republican plans: one put forward by Obama, another
by Boehner.

Of course, few people are raising their voice to ‘support’ Obama and his
Republican plan.

If Obama wants to be supported, he should support the people who voted him
into office.

Til then, he cannot count on ‘support’ .... Until we have a Democrat in the White
House, we have no one to ‘support’.

ATLAS HUGGED

RL:  … the economy didn’t crash because of the spending of the public sector - it crashed because of the profoundly unethical practices of the finance industry in the PRIVATE SECTOR - that is the fact

Well put.

There is a great malaise in this country and it is misplaced. Far too many people on this blog think it is all Obama’s fault. What plagues America today has its origins that go way back, to the first half of the last century when a Russian immigrant wrote a wildly popular book called The Fountainhead. Later Ayn Rand (well ensconced as a Hollywood screenwriter) would publish her more theoretical work that formed an ideological basis for Individualism. As a refugee of Russia, her intent was to undermine socialist dogma that preached the supremacy of the proletariat.

We are way beyond those classic political cleavages of the mid-20th century.  But Ayn Rand’s doctrine of Individualist Supremacy is will embedded in the American winner-take-all psyche. It is the foundation of the hubris that led Greenspan to prone in the 1960s the ultimate idiocy that since markets were constituted of intelligent individuals, they would automatically correct themselves.

That is, “Nothing could go wrong”. Go wrong. Go wrong. Go wrong. (But it did all go wrong.)

We are still suffering from the consequence of that fallacy, which drove repeated Replicant administrations to neuter Federal Market Oversight institutions and agencies that are responsible for making markets truly free. Free of manipulation by too few market actors. Free of dangers to unsuspecting consumers (meaning the larger part of this nation’s Consumers). Free of dangers to those employed in various industries. And all this by neutering the oversight agencies by suspending their regulatory powers.

The Mess came about under the guise of a policy that Governments Should Never Interfere in Markets (GSNiM). Of course governments should interfere when what is at stake is not the well-being of the market actors but that of consumers and workers. There must be a good balance between the two and not just the predominance of one or the other.

If the US is the epitome of freedom-of-action, meaning non-interference of the state in the free choice of one’s actions, then France (and much of Europe) is the opposite with its straightjacket rules that limit such freedoms. I’ve seen both – sometimes both a right and sometimes both are wrong. There is no simple answer and the simplest of all (GSNiM) is the most wrong. Why?

Because it leaves too much power to corporations to tweak and twist markets to correspond with their profit objective needs. Let’s not blame them for seeking profits, that’s the essence of business. But to warp markets to their own specific needs is not only harmful but criminal – because it leads to the Income Disparity that is flagrant in America and is detrimental to the well-being of all.

Ayn Rand might well disagree. A shame she is not here to defend her fanciful notion of Objective Individualism. The exchange would have been pure delight.

This whole fake crisis is being used by the people with great amounts of money to make more money. Banksters and Congresspeople (Senators, House members, Democrats and Republicans alike) are going to profit big time from this show.
MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND, WORLD GO ROUND.
THAT KLINKING KLANGING SOUND…..

All the so-called Senate/House can do is serve up red herrings - a veritable feast of disingenousness and fallacy. They need to jot this down on their cocktail napkins - the economy didn’t crash because of the spending of the public sector - it crashed because of the profoundly unethical practices of the finance industry in the PRIVATE SECTOR - that is the fact - until that fact is addressed - no jobs no upswing of AMERICAN economy. Shake up the piggy capitalists from their lethargy of denial.

John Boehner was able to deliver a phony rebuttal to the President - without crying or cracking a smile. 

His was a speech filled with exaggeration, obfuscation, and pettifog.  He labeled “Cut Cap and Balance” as “bipartisan” though only 5 votes came from non-Republicans (Senate and the President have not addressed the bill).
He claimed to solve the debt crisis - knowing full well that: 1. the Senate will NOT pass it with the required 2/3 majority, 2. the Constitution CANNOT be amended in a week’s time before August 2, 3. required 2/3 of the States cannot ratify it via legislation in a week.  And he bragged he had gone as far as he could and the Act was balanced even though NO revenue options of ANY kind were included and his “solution” would only last until Xmas. 
    True, the tax code should be revised removing ALL loopholes and special treatment for ALL - all citizens should be required to pay for their services and benefits instead of only 40% (most of whom have a median income of $59,500 NOT those making over $250K).  But the sheer complexity cannot be overcome in a week. 
    The poor and the middle class did not cause the economic crisis - that was the bankers and wheeler dealers on Wall St. - those who hope to rape and pillage again.
    If the ultra-wealthy really generate jobs, why did they fail during W’s tax cut era?  Why have they failed since the extension last winter? Why are the W era job numbers so anemic compared to the so-called high tax era of Clinton?

    Q. E. D.

This is almost funny. Our government can’t fix our real problems (like jobs), so they make the debt ceiling into this big crisis. Our government is just a reflection of the ignorant people that put up with them.  Kind of like NAZI Germany. The people where stupid to follow Hitler and they paid dearly for it. You deserve what you get, so stop complaining, you’ve earned it.

 
FIGHT THE CAUSE - NOT THE SYMPTOM
OsiXs (Common Sense 3.1)

The fact of the matter is, the Republicans would throw America to the wolves if they thought they could score any political point for doing it, off Obama in particular and the Democrats in general. Their hatred and partisanship know no bounds and have become as irrational as partisanship and hatred always become. And nothing about this situation is new: they closed the government down when Clinton was president but they appear to have forgotten that after that national near death experience, Clinton won the election. I believe that was because the American voter was so amazed and disgusted with the behavior of the Republicans. As usual, the Republicans have learned nothing from the experience and are thinking with their balls, as they always do. To call Obama’s reasoned and non-partisan approach to what is a national emergency ‘allowing the Tea Party’ to set his agenda is sickening in its deceit and inaccuracy. What can you say about the morals of people who refuse to raise taxes for the superich but who want to take money away from medicare and social security - in other words away from the most vulnerable people in American society? You can say that they have no morals - not that it’s news to me.

I have been wondering for some time now what Obama was planning on doing about jobs. He has ignored progressive and even conservative economists (among others) who argue that more money used to create jobs is needed and the way out of long term deficits is putting people back to work.

I looked at the Romney ad, easy to find on a search, and it will fool most Americans. It’s well done and the story about Romney’s success as a businessman are exaggerated as is his success as governor. The voice on the ad is horrible, however. Let’s hope the voice over kills it; it’s creepy and breathy sounding.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
http://www.texshelters.wordpress.com

Dionne quote: “Asked what was the most important problem facing the country, 31 percent of Americans said the economy and an additional 27 percent specifically said unemployment and jobs, for a total of 58 percent. Only 16 percent listed the deficit or the debt.”
  NOTE:  War isn’t even at issue!

California Ray’s tiresome medley only underscores how pathetically inept voters are in voting and our system is in solving problems, giving rewards to the most cynical party, the Republican, and inspiring cowardice in the other.

After the Bush v Gore Fiasco
After the Nuremberg Principles Fiasco
After the Geneva Convention Fiasco
After the Torture Convention Fiasco
After the War Crimes Act of 1996 Fiasco
After the Hurricane Katrina Fiasco
After the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 Fiasco
After the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 Fiasco
After the Middle East Peace Process Fiasco
After the Debt-Ceiling Fiasco . . . .

Bachmann in 2012!!!!  I want America’s outside to mirror its schizophrenic inside.

It’s understandable that Obama is conceding selling off the futures of seniors and the disabled - if he doesn’t the Repub might…might…yell at him.

Let’s treat this like we did when we were kids and played board games, like
Clue.

Here are three clues:

1 Saturday, Boehner tells the Republican Party and the Tea Party to stick
together.

2 Last week, Obama tells the talking heads he’s going to “go against his own
Party”

3 This spring, Tim Geithner told his European audience that the President and
the Republicans were ‘on the same page’.

Wait ! Wait ! Don’t tell me !

Yes. As the saying goes: “We all know how this will end.”

It seems rather obvious that our two party system is not working.