Once again our endless Wars take priority over the
well being of the working people of this nation. 
According to John Wayne McCain, and, most of other
idiots in our Congress, we can well afford to spend
Trillions on War and enforcing our failed Policy
towards many other nations in the world, but then
cannot afford to spend a few Billion to extend
unemployment insurance or any other program that
would help the Middle Class, working poor, or, those
at the bottom of the ladder trying to hold on while
they wait in quiet desperation for someone like Allen
Greyson to even attempt to just slow down spending on
a Bloated Military Budget.

After all I guess when people like McCain of Arizona,
Boner of Ohio, and other GOP spokesmen in the
Congress say that if We do not fight them there We
will have to fight them here in the USA, We must take
that as Gospel.  What a crock,  during the Second
World War, (to end all wars) it took a thousand
ships, thousands of boats, A Million men, complete
control of the Air Space above, cargo planes towing
gliders, just to travel the 26 miles across the
English Channel to invade France.  Now just what
Country in this world has the military might, or men,
and equipment to travel thousands of miles to attack
this country.

i like butter

Eisenhower , after   over-seeing coups in Iran and Guatemala and getting us
involved in Vietnam got a conscience toward the end of his term ,and famously
warned us of “the military/industrial complex.’’ He failed to mention the
massive pro-war ‘‘media/propaganda complex’’ that makes it all possible
with our consent.
All to takes to get billions more for the Pentagon is a lame “attack ‘’ by an angry
naturalized Pakistani with an SUV , 2 cans of gasoline , and some fireworks .
Then you put the neo-cons ,terrorism experts, and retired generals on the T.V. to endlessly use these words : “terror, terrorist, 9/11,  Muslim extremist,
Islamo- fascist, Al-Qaeda, Taliban.”

So there is this family that lives in a really rough neighborhood and because the family is always sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong and the Father is a real bully someone finally struck back. Now instead of that headofhousehold stopping, asking themselves some relevant questions about his behavior and the cause of this smackdown, he freaks out and attacks and murders a whole mess of innocent people who had nothing to do with the attack on him. At the same time, his house is falling down around his ears. He has Formosan termites, the plumbing is shot, there is no heat, the toilet won’t flush, and the windows are broken out. His multiple wives are pregnant again and he has too may mouths to feed, they need medical care, the schools have been closed, the roads are full of potholes and the car is barely running. So he goes out and robs a bunch of local citizens because he really needs to get some food in the house. But as soon as he gets the money, what does he do, he escalates the attacks on his neighbors, spends all the money on more shiny guns, ammo, and barbed wire!

Now if we knew a man like this on our neighborhood we would surely try to do something about him. The problem is that we have a whole passel of them in Washington, we know their names and we keep sending them back for more of the same. Well, I don’t. I voted my conscience and voted for Ralph Nader again. I don’t believe in Hoping for Change, I want to see the real deal. President Abysmal wasn’t it. Sure, my guy lost. But I’m not sitting here feeling foolish and betrayed!

check out the 300,000 typo. sorry. move on
progressives(reformers), spend a little tax on me.
salute.

hello again. yes i agree there is a significant
underlying problem that needs to be dealt with. i
call it full disclosure. i am unable to agree with
you about it being from corporations, or the
government regulations (or lack thereof/or of
enforcement), or from the judicial meltdown of
morality and liberal interpretation of law, or
exactly what the funk is going on- but we seem to all
sense something is dragging the helm away from the
freedoms and liberties we believed were our
children’s future. and without the full disclosure we
are entitled to as a dignified citizenry, we will be
forever chasing ghosts. 4/5 of us are keeping it all
going, so 300,000 of us need to get together and
demand to know what is “the” agenda; and then decide
thumbs up, or thumbs down. it can only be naughty -to
have to be kept secret. and i am again honored to be
put at the front of a line.

The military in our streets, is only half of the story.
We will be one of those third world banana republics that suppresses and destroys the very ideals we are supposed to be championing, that of FREEDOM! of the press, the right to associate with whom we will, the freedom to dissent from the current juntas policies.
That’s right people, be prepared for the internet to be shut down because of ‘national security reasons,’ and weirdly enough, China’s so-called freedoms will look good to Americans.
We the people of America, are on the cusp of a brand new and improved form of totalitarianism that makes China look good to us. We will be the recipient of many of the same measures to quell dissent from the current administrations horrific policies.
The Bill of Rights will be meaningless in the new Amerikka. Sheeple of the world unite, you will have nothing to lose but your chains.
Sorry folks, but this is now and has been for the past 12 years a proto-fascist regime in the making.
And worst of all we cannot stop the ball of progress from rolling towards the greatest fall to an oligarchic/plutocratic fascist state ever.

When one looks at America’s problems, all of them, they represent a disintegration and a failure of the countries infrastructure.

The Recession, bankruptcy of State governments, unemployment, endless wars, failing bank system, failing Educational System, illegal immigration, addiction, poor healthcare, pollution, etc., etc., all of them.

But they are not separate problems, they are a result of a single problem, and can be easily traced back to the root underlying illness.

The politicians especially the Democrats offer remedy’s for each one of our “issues”, all of these remedies will essentially fail. Because the root cause is never dealt with.

In fact, our problems will continue to worsen, as long as the root issue is never dealt with, and as long as that’s the case, we will continue on the present downward spiral, to an inevitable outcome, just as sure as night follows day.

That underlying problem is the American corporation, its structure, its control of government and law. And the absolute lack of redress by the American people through their political process, due to corporate control.

Since those corporations, are incompetent, greedy, foolish and unable to compete with the business throughout the world except via graft, they will fail. Just as the recent recession, was caused by their stupidity and greed, the next economic catastrophe will be as well.

What will be left of this country, will be anyone’s guess. But we will be bankrupt, and near dissolution as any sort of political entity.

So it really doesn’t matter what Washington does, all of the remedies it tries will be impotent, unless it does one thing. Only one thing and one thing alone will prevent the coming catastrophe. Otherwise all the speeches and bills, and editorials, are just the wind blowing the wrong way.

Does anyone really think Washington has it in them?

Obey and Kucinich were marginalized by the media and the politicians. Any politician that has the temerity to question the status-quo and legislate for the American people is ridiculed by their peers and the press. And as to the statement “shaving the military budget for gov handouts” and “creating jobs” that’s another fantasy. The Gov doesn’t “create” jobs, the private sector does. The years of growth for our Country was due to the robust manufacturing and service sectors. Well, our manufacturing base as well as our service sectors have been shipped to China/India and unless we stop this mad dash to third world status with a decrepid infrastructure and destitute population ruled by Military Juntas. I agree we will see the military in our streets to suppress dissent.

We are well past the financial tipping point as we borrow from China,Dubai,Saudis, etc. to fund our MIC. We are sending billions to Afganistan/Iraq to buy loyalty. We are building schools and roads in foreign countries while we close schools and let our roads,bridges and water systems fall apart here at home. We are allowing Corporations to run rampant in our banks and environment.

Unless the President,Senate and Congress grow a pair and shut down these debilitaing wars, spend trillions of dollars to re-tool our manufacturing base to 21st Century energy production and National Grid, we will be forced into chaos and austerity as the ranks of poor swell precipitiously. Expecting the Gov to “create jobs” out of thin air is political hype masquerading as possibility.

And you, rollzone, will probably be the first in line for your “handout” when your income disappears and you are facing homelessness as a direct result of our costly military adventures.

hello. he is willing to shave military spending in
favor of government handouts spending. try slashing
taxes and outrageous regulations and creating jobs.

“Whether or not the cacophony stops the Pentagon’s latest blank check is less important than Obey having finally rekindled an honest discussion about guns and butter.”

A discussion mind you.  Of all the evil in the world, we are the worst.  While blatantly killing and maiming fellow humans all over the world, this Government could go on maybe indefinitely.  Yet, we choose to discuss.  Pass the canolis, please.

The real war is coming.  The nasty one.  The one that pits local militia and local police against fellow American protesters who are acting out against the 20-year austerity measures that are coming. That’s according to the IMF.

The IMF has been told by South America to fuck themselves.  IMF lends money to counties if they will impose austerity measures that few American can comprehend. 

Pay more for your water.  Pay more for your child’s education.  And to come, pay through the nose for electricity and energy.

I’s like the Army.  Many will tell you, “Don’t go into the Army as an enlistee.”  If you don’t have rank, you’re shit.  Fodder.

In the coming months and years, every Joe and Mary Schmoe will be asked to do without or do with less so that the ones in charge can pay off the 600 Trillion dollar gambling debt of the insatiably flatulent. 

That is, all they’ve given us so far is hot air, and now it is beginning to stink.

They want us to smell their farts, and smile.

Back to Obey,

“In a storied 41-year career of venerable accomplishments, that is the most profound achievement of all.”

To hell with the hero worship.  He has had a pretty good life.  Better than most people I know.  So what does he do when he’s faced with an insurmountable force of greed?  He quits.

If I had a way out, I’d take it too.

I meant to say “At this point there is only ONE means of change available.” Hopefully the means to which I am referring will include correct grammar.

The impossibility of “change from within” becomes more apparent every day. A permanent war machine hard wired to a corporate oligarchy cannot be changed through representational means. At this point there is only means of change available.

Aside from the obviously extraordinary profits garnered by the military-industrial complex and the “services” provided for the multinational corporations, the real value of the continuous wars of terror is the economic shocks dealt to the poor and middle class in this country.  The “War on Terror” is just the international side of domestic class war.  Obama, the Republicans and all but a few progressive Democrats need the war/Homeland Security spending (and accompanying deficit hysteria) as an effective means to implement an economic shock doctrine in the U.S.  The above don’t really want an economic recovery for ordinary Americans but instead a good way to keep the lower classes in their place.

To Hell with the guns; bring on the butter!!!

Can’t we all get a invoice for the wars each year from the government?
That would change the way people see the stupidity.  Of course we have to include the borrowing and interest payments too.