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A Field of HawksPosted on Mar 9, 2012Unless Ron Paul somehow wins the nomination, it looks as if a vote for the Republican presidential candidate this fall will be a vote for war with Iran. No other conclusion can be drawn from parsing the candidates’ public remarks. Paul, of course, is basically an isolationist who believes it is none of our business if Iran wants to build nuclear weapons. He questions even the use of sanctions, such as those now in force. But Paul has about as much chance of winning the GOP nomination as I do. Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich have all sought to portray President Obama as weak on national security—a traditional Republican line of attack. Specifically, they have tried to accuse Obama of being insufficiently committed to Israel’s defense. In the process, they’ve made bellicose pledges about Iran that almost surely would lead straight to conflict. Santorum’s apocalyptic rhetoric about Iran practically takes for granted an imminent clash. Gingrich would essentially abdicate the decision to Israeli leaders, giving them the green light for an attack whenever they choose. Romney, the likely nominee, has been somewhat more circumspect—and less forthright. He published an Op-Ed in The Washington Post this week blasting Obama’s foreign policy as “feckless” and promising that under a Romney administration, things would be different. He then went on to outline the steps he would take in dealing with Iran—most of which turn out to be steps Obama has already taken. Advertisement Romney’s only new initiatives would be to make Jerusalem the destination of his first foreign trip and to deploy an additional aircraft carrier group in the region. I imagine the intent would be to show Iranian leaders that they are isolated and under siege, but I think they get that already. In a speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee—a pro-Israel lobbying group—Romney was much more specific in establishing his bottom line: “We must not allow Iran to have the bomb or the capacity to make a bomb.” It is difficult to imagine how this statement can lead anywhere but to war. U.S. policy under Obama—and previous administrations—has been that it is “unacceptable” for Iran to have nuclear weapons. The clear implication is that while military force is an option that could be employed at any time, including the present, force will be employed if Iran tries to make a bomb. To say that Iran must never have “the capacity to make a bomb,” as Romney does, is to draw a line that has already been crossed. Does capacity mean having the fuel for a bomb? Iran knows how to produce the enriched uranium that would be used in a bomb, and while U.S. air power alone—unsupported by ground troops—could destroy or damage most of the enrichment facilities we know about, the Iranians could have the program back up and running within a few years. Does capacity mean the expertise necessary to construct a bomb that would actually explode? If so, will Romney order an attack whenever intelligence agencies report that a librarian at some Iranian university has ordered a textbook in advanced metallurgy from Amazon.com? The truth is that every nation with sufficient wealth and scientific infrastructure has the capacity to build a bomb if it really wants to. An attack is likely to increase the Iranian regime’s resolve, not lessen it. Bombing Iran every few years is not a realistic option, and in any event would not be effective in the long run; when the Iranians rebuild their facilities, they will surely do a better job of hiding and bunkering them. The United States and its allies should seek to eliminate the Iranian government’s will to make a bomb, not its capacity. I hope Romney realizes that while sanctions and diplomacy may not be working as well as we’d like, they’re the best tools we have—and that an attack at this point gets us nowhere. But if he believes his own rhetoric, this election may be about more than the economy. It may be about war and peace.
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By moonraven, March 13, 2012 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment
Voting is for suckers.
Kick the habit.
Get clean.
The world around you will look very different once you are no longer addicted to ersatz democracy.
Report thisBy Doubtom, March 13, 2012 at 4:29 pm Link to this comment
Ron Paul is the only candidate in that pool of lunatics and flip-floppers that comes
Report thisclose to making sense and that’s why he doesn’t stand a chance. His position of
keeping our noses out of foreign countries is seen as “isolationism”, a term
employed when you can’t adequately refute his non-interventionist stance; it’s
similar to his being smeared with the “antisemitic” label because he dares to
question why we’re joined at the hip with the Israelis. It’s the oldest of tactics, if
you can’t refute his positions, attack his character. Paul also opposes the various
illegal, immoral and unnecessary wars we’re engaged in. The top three
candidates are stripping all over each other in a frenzied race to kiss the Israelis’
asses and thereby ensure the jewish vote. It’s a sorry state of affairs when in
order to secure the presidency, one has to suck up to a foreign power. Wonder
what the founding fathers would say about this shameful behavior?
By David J. Cyr, March 12, 2012 at 9:57 am Link to this comment
The corporate party’s impatient Republicans eagerly want the bombing to begin now, before the election.
The corporate party’s patient Democrats cleverly want their weaponized economic sanctions to first lay siege upon the targeted state of Iran, to collectively punish its people and degrade its defenses, before bombing it after the election.
Terrorist Production for Bomb Destruction:
http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=488&Itemid=49
Jill Stein for President:
http://www.jillstein.org
Report thisBy decembre, March 12, 2012 at 9:38 am Link to this comment
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China and Russia won’t let America attack Iran without a fight.
Report thisBy Dieter Heymann, March 12, 2012 at 9:27 am Link to this comment
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It is more than one year ago since I last read a posting on CD. I am astonished by the change of perception by the readership as it appears for this posting by ER. One year ago most postings for ER writings were positive or neutral. Today most are negative and some scathingly so. My opinion: he richly deserves it.
Report thisBy SarcastiCanuck, March 12, 2012 at 7:32 am Link to this comment
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A Field of Hawks??? More like a Field of Nuts…
Report thisBy EmileZ, March 12, 2012 at 3:35 am Link to this comment
I didn’t read this article. I don’t see any point. I am just waiting for Hedges column to appear, though maybe if it takes long enough I will read it after all.
I believe, in the end Mitt Romney’s position will be identical to Obama’s in regards to Iran.
And…
@ Heterochromatic
The new chief of the IAEA was for all intents and purposes a political appointee determined as friendly to the US “interests” regarding this very issue (see Seymour Hersh).
Love you man. Don’t let the haters get you down buddy. These things take time.
Art Tatum - “Boots And Saddle”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz0fdRpECy4
Report thisBy moonraven, March 11, 2012 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment
Please be advised:
1. I HAVE written to the editors of the site with my complaints and suggestion for improving this site, now dangerously close to being indistinguishable from all the other plastic lefty sites—most of which are subsidized by the gringo government as safety valves for discountent.
2. I have never been banned from this site for any reason, and ardee’s chickenshit libel is simply that.
3. There are some very bad elements posting on this site—and I suppose that they represent the majority of hateful gringos, otherwise gringo foreign and domestic policy would not be one of genocide against non-whites for their resources.
Report thisBy Rosemary Molloy, March 11, 2012 at 3:45 am Link to this comment
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Why in the world do you continue to run Eugene Robinson’s hack pieces on Truthdig? As a shill for the democrats and the current administration, he isn’t even subtle. Do you have some kind of contract with him, so you legally have to carry his garbage? Do tell.
Report thisBy sallysense, March 10, 2012 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment
since the government’s operations are in such a massive mess…
it’s gonna take a major overhaul of the whole system…
as that mess is what needs to be corrected…
and to correct any mess means to be rid of the mess…
and the best tools we got are we-the-people as a whole!...
and as far as the most viable major individual tool in this presidential election goes…
the best tool this’un sees is ron paul!...
...
hence this ex-forty-year-democrat who later became a no-party-affiliation…
is now registered republican in order to vote for the ron paul in the primary!...
Report thisBy oregoncharles, March 10, 2012 at 11:57 am Link to this comment
Thanks, Ardee. Short, sweet, and true.
Report thisBy oregoncharles, March 10, 2012 at 11:56 am Link to this comment
Robinson’s fundamental cluelessness is right there in the first paragraph:
“a vote for the Republican presidential candidate this fall will be a vote for war with Iran.”
This, when the Democratic nominee and current incumbent has just been issuing open, escalating threats against Iran - threats that are war crimes in themselves.
In other words, you will not be able to vote for a 2-Party candidate without voting for a warmonger. Some peaceniks are actually registering Republican in order to vote for Ron Paul in the primary.
You will, however, have a chance to vote for a peace candidate: Dr. Jill Stein, the likely Green Party candidate.
Of course, in a lot of states, including Oregon, you need to do some work to make sure she’s on your ballot. In Oregon, we need Pacific Green Party registrations to stay on the ballot. The requirements vary from state to state, if you aren’t part of the duopoly.
We’ve all got some work to do - and Robinson is trying to cover that up.
Report thisBy Rosemary Molloy, March 10, 2012 at 10:10 am Link to this comment
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I had left an earlier comment on the tireless—and tiresome—Obama-championing of Eugene Robinson. Not sure why it didn’t appear, as it seemed no more vehement than others along the same lines. Okay, once again: Why would Truthdig support such a clearly partisan writer?
Report thisBy Timbob, March 10, 2012 at 9:18 am Link to this comment
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I only hope that Israel doesn’t end up being the Judas Goat that leads all of us to slaughter….
Report thisThey really scare me far more than any Iranian Boogey Man.
By ardee, March 10, 2012 at 8:24 am Link to this comment
http://www.blixassociates.com/
For the real positions on Iran’s “nuclear threat”. Of course one could simply take genderconfusedchromatic’s opinion…..err GRYM’s.
Report thisBy ardee, March 10, 2012 at 8:20 am Link to this comment
y moonraven, March 9 at 11:13 am Link to this comment
I am very close to terminating my time with this site.
Oh please, do so immediately!
By gerard, March 9 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment
moonraven: I hope you have written directly to the editors of Truthdig. The site could be improved by helpful specific suggestions.
Which, coming from one who has been banned in the past for posting blatant bigotry, and quite probably will be again, will certainly be given the (lack of) weight it deserves.
Report thisBy Rosemary Molloy, March 10, 2012 at 4:52 am Link to this comment
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I’m not sure how Truthdig works. Is there a contract with Eugene Robinson? If so, doesn’t the site even have editorial jurisdiction over his writing? He so openly and so consistantly acts as a shill for the Obama administration and, by extension, the democratic party, that journalistic integrety isn’t even a pretense. How do you explain this?
Report thisBy heterochromatic, March 9, 2012 at 7:21 pm Link to this comment
A.) All U.S. intelligence gathering organizations agree that Iran stopped pursuing
development of nuclear weapons in 2004.———
Report thisand they agree with the IAEA that the weapons program has restarted.
By Aarky, March 9, 2012 at 6:17 pm Link to this comment
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Why doesn’t Robinson and all the other media pundits ask: Why all the sanctions, embargoes, wild lies and saber rattling toward Iran when both the past and present heads of the Mossad and the US intell all say Iran is not building nukes. One poster puts it well,pointing out that there are many countries that have the technical ability to build nukes, but the Iran sanctions program isn’t thrown at them. Japan could manufacture over 1000 Nagasaki style bombs with the plutonium from processed nuclear power plant fuel.
Report thisBy Galia, March 9, 2012 at 4:45 pm Link to this comment
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Robinson hasn’t got a clue. Iran doesn’t want the bomb, doesn’t have the bomb, and has no interest in making a bomb. Sanctions are only going to make the hardliners in Iran more powerful and harm the working class and middle class. Also lots of countries will flout sanctions to get Iran’s oil starting with Pakistan, China etc. Sanctions will make us look bad. Obama’s Iran policy is bad but the Republicans ideas about military attacks would be a catastrophe for the U.S. and the Middle East.
Report thisBy gerard, March 9, 2012 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment
moonraven: I hope you have written directly to the editors of Truthdig. The site could be improved by helpful specific suggestions.
Report thisBy Oceanna, March 9, 2012 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment
But Obama has made his intentions very clear, especially with developing
bunker busting bombs specifically for Iran and turning some over to Israel.
What do his sanctions that withhold grain and threaten the Iranians with
hunger have to do with Iran developing a nuclear weapon, a scenario that his
staff has admitted as not even been decided yet? They’re clearly a form of
warfare against the people of Iran and its government. If that was imposed on
Americans by an outside country, it would clearly be called and acted upon as
an act of war.
“In his recent interview with Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic, [5] given in
advance of President Obama’s American Israel Public Affairs Committee speech,
the president, inter alia, was questioned about Syria. His response was very
clear:
GOLDBERG: Can you just talk about Syria as a strategic issue? Talk about it as a
humanitarian issue, as well; but it would seem to me that one way to weaken
and further isolate Iran is to remove or help remove Iran’s only Arab ally.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Absolutely.
Do these Western interventionist proselytizers really believe that the onslaught
on Syria is only about democracy and reform? Obama said it plainly. It was
always about Iran.”
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NC09Ak03.html
And if Obama has a Republican successor, especially Romney, why should we
Report thisassume his more covert methods of waging war would be abandoned when
they’ve been so successful in gaining acceptance?
By moonraven, March 9, 2012 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
Another piece on truthdig that is a fart in a whirlwind.
Where’s the beef, truthdig editors?
I am very close to terminating my time with this site.
Report thisBy gerard, March 9, 2012 at 12:11 pm Link to this comment
How can any journalist—any person with a grain of sense, even—write an entire article on the nuclear weapons double-bind without even mentioning that if “we” don’t want “them” to have nuclear weapons, the least we can do to start with, is to offer to get rid of our own and work ceaselessly for a nuclear-free world.
Report thisIt is not that people never think to make the offer. It’s that they spend much time and great effort to avoid thinking about it. So long as that is the case, the problem will remain unsolved. As soon as that is not the case, the problem will begin to be solved.
Like every other problem, the answer lies within our range of possibilities as “the strongest, biggest, richest country in the world etc. etc.
(Not strong enough to do the right thing. Not rich enough in spirit to do the right thing. Not smart enough, either.
By antrosie, March 9, 2012 at 11:25 am Link to this comment
The Big Business Elites will allow Obama to serve
Report thisanother term. He’s been carrying out their orders and
they’ll make sure he wins the race. If they didn’t want
him to win they’d be running Jeb.
By Paul_GA, March 9, 2012 at 10:16 am Link to this comment
Too late, Balkas; I already did, on Super Tuesday—and I don’t regret it at all! :-D
Report thisBy Big B, March 9, 2012 at 9:24 am Link to this comment
Let’s not kid ourselves, Ron Paul would be a helpless old boob that would be powerless to reign in the MIC.
Ron Paul and his ilk make GW look like Copernicus.
Report thisBy balkas, March 9, 2012 at 9:24 am Link to this comment
ron paul represents the one percent in many aspects of daily living. he’s
Report thisanti-equality, anti-healthcare for all, anti higher education for all those who
want to obtain it, anti some women’s rights, etc.
and since blacks would continue to have under paul by far less of these
rights than sephardo-ashekenazic peoples and anglosaxons, EG probably
detests very name of ron paul.
and so would i if i were a latino, black, and an indigene.
so, please, don’t vote for ron paul; much better for ALL americans appear
stein or anderson. thanks
By Blueokie, March 9, 2012 at 9:17 am Link to this comment
This article started with a joke, a backdoor endorsement of Romney operative Ron Paul.
In the 19th century “Economic Sanctions” were called blockades and considered an act of war, add to that targeted assassinations inside a sovereign nation, and overflight by spy drones and the situation could only be described as war. The question isn’t which party or candidate will go to war with Iran, the question is the speed with which the war will be expanded.
Report thisBy balkas, March 9, 2012 at 9:11 am Link to this comment
the piece is overly gossipy. we all know who’s gonna win the election ‘12: the one percent.
Report thisand it’d make a hoot of diff if obama, paul, romney, anderson, or stein wins it.
whoever get’s the presidency, MUST swear an oath of allegiance/total obedience to the ONE
PERCENT, or else.
those who own america, manage america—and no amount of evolution or revolution will
change this fact.
cutting down on one percent’s ownership of america is the only way to go; and the only way
to accomplish that is to establish political party that aims to do just that.
perhaps, justice party and the greens might be a vehicle for change.
one could then try one of them before establishing another party. thanks
By John in Kerrville, March 9, 2012 at 8:51 am Link to this comment
It is the “Military-Industrial Complex” that President Eisenhower warned us about.
Report thisThey are the ones pushing it, for their own reasons.
By Paul_GA, March 9, 2012 at 7:03 am Link to this comment
Amazing; Robinson finally acknowledges that Ron Paul even exists, much less is running for president!
Report thisBy wpfwfan, March 9, 2012 at 6:58 am Link to this comment
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You think Obama will not attack Iran? He is already giving more taxpayer money in the form of weapons to Israel, expanding its capabilities for long range attacks beyond the craziness of attacking Iran… Obama is complicit and has a proven record as a militarist and warmonger. Panetta is preparing for war with the US leading the way.
Report thisBy Jeff N., March 9, 2012 at 6:35 am Link to this comment
The whole Iran thing is being used more as a talking point to get Obama out of office for being “soft” than anything else. AIPAC, Bibi and the Repubs are using the same dangerous strategy here, but my hopeful prediction is that Iran, as well as Syria, are going to be the first in a new era of US foreign policy, one in which we are so bankrupt and weary of war that our usual strategy of “invade first, ask questions later” no longer works, publicly or politically.
Report thisBy chinny, March 9, 2012 at 6:33 am Link to this comment
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and if you vote for Obama you’re voting for a murderer…
Report thisBy SharonMI, March 9, 2012 at 6:17 am Link to this comment
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This author is thinking a vote for warcriminal Obama is a vote for peace with Iran? Wow
Report thisBy decembre, March 9, 2012 at 6:06 am Link to this comment
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Obama is an empty suit. And Romney too. Only Ron Paul stands up but, too little to late I think… Leave Iran alone and mind your own business like, putting your own crooks in jail, you know, those who ruined America’s dreams.
Report thisBy reganstraley, March 9, 2012 at 5:22 am Link to this comment
Get a grip, Eugene. A.) All U.S. intelligence gathering organizations agree that Iran stopped pursuing development of nuclear weapons in 2004. B.) There will be war with Iran even if Obama is elected. He’s just trying to prevent it from breaking out before November, or saving it for an October surprise. How do you corporate-paid shills continue to pass this partisan propagandizing off as journalism?
Report thisBy ardee, March 9, 2012 at 5:12 am Link to this comment
While no one here is privy to conversations behind the scenes I would think that Obama’s public pronouncements and his unwavering support for both Israel and its equally bloody leader, Netanyahu, would lead one to see this article of Robinson’s as yet another silly partisan fluff piece.
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