To nahida

The poem is very profound ,are you the author? if so the verses are more powerful than all of your links—by the way what is your favotite Tree ,mine is the White Birch.

Re:By Inherit The Wind, November 24 at 12:55 pm #

ITW,

We are discussing here the crimes of Israel expelling a whole people from their country to refugee camps or urban ghetos and putting them under the most humiliating, oppressive and squalid conditions and destroying their culture and heritage.
Nobody is perfect, but comparing the defects in the Arab sates to Israel crimes is like comparing misdemeanors to capital offense murder felonies.!!
You have done it again ITW, throwing false accusations and sophistry to advance your point of view and this is again is dishonest.

LOOK AT ME

I would love to write poetry about love,

Paint rainbows and butterflies,

Smell the scent of pink rose buds,

And dance;

Dance with the melody of jubilant bluebirds

...

I would love to close my eyes and see children smiling

No guns pointing at their heads

Tell them stories of lily-like fairies in far-away lands

Not of bullets shrieking…. of missiles exploding

...

But

How can I?

There is a dagger in my heart

I am hurting

Hurting

I bleed,

I cringe

I cry

HUMANITY, WHERE ARE YOU?

I am being slaughtered

Under your watchful eyes

I am cold… cold…. cold

I cringe

I cry

Humanity, where are you?

Why do you turn your face away?

Why do you keep looking the other way?

I am here

Languishing

In Gaza’s alleyways

Humanity, where are you?

Look at me

See me

I am here

Sighing

In Gaza’s alleyways

I cringe

I cry

Humanity,

Enough turning the other way !

Turning a deaf ear

Turning a blind eye

While I,

and oh ! My poor children

Die
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truedigger3, November 24 at 10:45 am #

That is not true.
Although there might be some but not much discrimination in reaching very high positions in government, army and security forces, the Christians have full rights and citizenship and many are successful and wealthy business people.
Nobody killed their loved ones and took their lands and houses and drove them to refugee camps for a life of despair and hopelessness with their necks under heels all the time as your zionist friends did and doing to the Palistinian people.!!
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Yeah, if the Arab league told you it was sunny out, you’d deny the rain falling on your head.

Tell me again how Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, Sudan and Libya have “equal rights” for Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims.  In Egypt it is STILL a death-penalty crime to convert from Islam to another religion—and if the courts don’t kill you, the society will make it IMPOSSIBLE to stay in the country.

Get your head out of the sand (or someplace else), wake up and face reality.  Intolerance among the Arabs is just as prevalent as among the ultra-orthodox Jews.  Anything else is just lying to yourself.

ITW wrote:
“Most of the nations in the region are Muslim-dominated and treat non-Muslims as 2nd or 3rd class citizens—if they even grant them citizenship. “
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That is not true.
Although there might be some but not much discrimination in reaching very high positions in government, army and security forces, the Christians have full rights and citizenship and many are successful and wealthy business people.
Nobody killed their loved ones and took their lands and houses and drove them to refugee camps for a life of despair and hopelessness with their necks under heels all the time as your zionist friends did and doing to the Palistinian people.!!

TW

The thought of leaving Nahida alone in the dark is an example of nonchalance with regards to the Palestinian Predicament, although most have chosen to desist ,there remain the one’s who believe in the Ideal of a greater Israel that according to the scriptures are entitled to the Levant ,regardless of Morality ,which is objective in itself.Tao Walker brings forth the philosophy that the Planet ‘Mother Earth’ is in danger because of Homo Demisticus’s blatant disregard for the walkers of the Planet,in their quest for Gold ,and a guarantee of lineage for their offspring.He,‘so right and nothing has changed in that regard ,yet the CONdition of the planet has changed ,regardless of the awareness of the experts who at times voice -what should be heard- but claim otherwise due to monetary considerations and act accordingly.Nevertheless we all share the same Mother and any CONsiderations made for oneself will only support the demise of the gifts that are offered to all ,in the name of whomever.What we are witnessing in the Levant is a continuation of callous mentality ,dating back to the times of the scriptures,but represented in a format of lies ,that have been rewritten to suit the purposes of Greed-which money does represent-but which cannot be eaten ,for an apple remains an apple and it maintains life,whilst the other promotes chaos.

Nahida:

Would you like ALL Muslims in the world to be categorized as Wahabists or Al Qaeda?

The Lubovitcher Chasidic sect is a very, very tiny extreme branch of Judaism, and it has alienated even its fellow ultra-orthodox Jews (especially Chasids).

You might as accurately describe Timothy McVeigh or Jim Jones as the typical Christian.

It’s all bullshit.

It makes it difficult for me to say that I actually think the Palestinians, declaring a state AND responsibility for themselves might be a very GOOD thing, and should be supported by the US.

I may want Israel to survive, but I sure as hell don’t want Netanyahu and his Likud fascists running the place!  Yes, I agree they are liars and negotiating totally in bad faith—and it’s bad for Israel as well as Palestine.

Most of the nations in the region are Muslim-dominated and treat non-Muslims as 2nd or 3rd class citizens—if they even grant them citizenship.  Somehow, this is a good thing to Nahida and, of course, to Robert. To pretend they aren’t religious states is pure hypocrisy, because to you,  a Jewish-dominated state is somehow a crime against humanity, but a Muslim-dominated one isn’t.

I’ll never understand that, because if there isn’t a reason for the extremists in Israel to strike fear in every Jew’s heart, then the sane ones would dominate and Non-Jews in Israel would enjoy what they deserve (again): Full citizen-ship rights.

Unlike Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Sudan, etc.

Set Nahida’s terse invitation (to the “wordy” moralists here) to put their asses where their rhetoric is, next to JDmysticDJ’s latest rambling attempts to hide his fear and nescience in a fog of verbiage, and one gets a pretty clear picture of why there is no “intellectual” or institutional answer to the orgy of internecine bloodletting in Palestine/Israel.  It’s so easy to be “agin’” things, and so instantly gratifying to say-so….but so what? 

Also, there’s no need to take into account (while self-indulging thusly) the long-demonstrated utter futility of attempting to treat the “evil” erupting “there” solely in-isolation.  Arbitrarily CONfine the damned excrescence to some artificial “local” jurisdiction, and enjoy temporarily the comforting illusion it is somehow “manageable” without any real “cost” to one’s own vested interests….access to oil in the region, f’r instance.

There is nothing happening anywhere in the world without immediate and discernible (to those with eyes/ears/noses/etc. to ‘sense’ them) effects everywhere in the world.  Yet the “language” commonly employed by homo domesticus to “address” these things is itself so compartmentalized and fractured and self-referential it effectively prevents its users from even talking together sensibly about their shared predicament….requires them, in-fact, to attempt the special exemption of their own favorite CONstructs from criticisms they gladly (and often viciously) apply to others’.

So “foreign entanglements” of all kinds, by their very nature, can only get more and more inescapable all the time.  Except here in Indian Country, where everything is seen (and in all ways sensed) to be all-of-a-piece.  This lets us live alongside the virtual world-o’-hurt where our tame Sisters and Brothers are trapped, and (these days not so) slowly suffocating, without having to take-up the fools’ game of “friends and enemies.”

Even our tormentors, whatever they think they’re up-to theirownselfs, can be treated as a mere CONdition….with the Natural Medicine specific to its “presentation” in our Living Arrangement here.  This may not be nearly so dramatically “satisfying” as some cosmic “struggle” between “good” and “evil,” but nobody here is ‘into’ all that make-believe bull-shit anyhow.

Besides, is there anything better anywhere anytime than being an actual “ingredient” in that Good Medicine?

Hokahey!

To those who want to force the Palestinians to accept the robbery of our land, by asking us to share it with those who raped it, I offer them:

The ultimate challenge

I confess, we Palestinians
Don’t posses
Your excellent qualities
We lack so much compassion
And generosity

Unlike us, you profess
Lofty principles
And superior morality
Deep rooted ethics
And love of humanity

PROVE IT

Invite the Zionists home
Give it all away
Teach us altruism
And live in a camp

Be our model
In self-sacrifice
Live as a refugee
Give them your land
And if they want more
Try to understand

If they kill your wife
Offer them your child
If they shoot your eye
Tell them you don’t mind
For the sake of peace
You’d become blind

You’ve always been thoughtful
So loving and kind

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Enjoy watching the “humanity” of those who are just “a little bit fascists”

BTW, those filmed are not the leaders, nor the politicians, nor the army, just the “normal” beings

Gaza war tourism - Keren Levy: I’m a little bit fascist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjw8U0AcH4Q&feature=related

Israel-Gaza border turns into picnic site for israeli gods!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZDlEcquWSY&feature=related

Sick tourist attraction in Israel (w/ English subtitles)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNzBHuLUts&feature=related

Welcome To Israel !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFLbXAmoxOo&feature=related

Gaza’s War Crimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLZgNy46aTQ

Zionist Extremism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_uEGQIsGU&feature=related

History of Crimes Against Palestine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhvd7vk9K2k&feature=related

Gaza 2009: We Will Never Forget

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9mkRiGbgZg

Palestine - 60 years of Bloody Oppression

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxAxgokbOrE&feature=related

The Age of Terror_The first Terrorists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo4pRCuElfw&feature=related

Democracy or apartheid? 2009 dignity for Palestine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVFPjaCZ0g&feature=related

People who call for equal rights for those savages, robbers, supremacists and murderers, I would say, you are welcome to take them as YOUR neighbours, you are welcome to even share your home with them, but please, do not force them upon us

As far as am concerned, they have crossed every red line, they have gone beyond the point of return, those who think that they can help them find their humanity…...... good luck to you

No room in my heart for such evil

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Gaza’s War Crimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLZgNy46aTQ

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Radson
Not that my stance has any great significance, but because you asked.

Opposed to U.S Intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan. Opposed to Neocon objectives of hegemony and empire. Opposed to Corporatism. Opposed to Israeli Government Policies in the Middle East.  Opposed to ethnocentric pseudo philosophical / religious beliefs that demonstrate arrogance and indifference.
The list goes on…...

JDmysticDJ

So where do you stand now.

hoka .

TAO Walker

You’ve created an interesting CONstruct: The CONstruct being, the “dualism” {sic} of commodities markets and the possession of word meanings.  I would point out though that commodities are always tangible, while words are often abstract. The word “tame” for example. The word tame could have more than one meaning depending on the context, but I can see that that “word meaning” could become a commodity, if the meaning of the word was taken possession of. However, possession of word meanings can only exist in the small “fund” of someone’s mind.  Some one might think that Dictionaries corner-the-market on “word meanings,” but this simply is not true, because some people refuse to accept dictionary word meanings and hoard their own word meanings in their small funds. This often leads to “speculation” when the words are offered in the marketplace of ideas. One should not “fool” with word meanings. These hoarded word meanings can become “toxic “if they lead to consternation, and are intended to indicate an esoteric intellectualism, instead of enhancing communication. I know some people put great store in word games, but I find them tedious.

You mentioned H.G.Wells and refer to him as being a “Domesticated Philosopher.”  Does that mean he only philosophized around home? I think he was a little eccentric.  It’s all very strange, but for some reason, he thought people needed a topographical map in order to put their lives together. I don’t think he was much of a philosopher, apparently his school of “Philosophy” consisted of a topographical map and gibberish.

I’m very impressed. You’re very skillful at manipulating your self-possessed word meanings. I know that you know what you mean, but the “downside” is I’m not sure if I know what you mean. I get the gist though. The opinions I’m receiving from you pertain to my: false postulation, false dualism [sic] , negative effects these falsehoods will have on others, my gender,  you’re accusing me of causing evil to increase, and that contrary to what you believe, I think, our mom can be spiritual.
First let me get this out of the way, I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but they’re charging mom with child abuse. Some of our brothers and sisters have suffered greatly because of her anger management problems. Regarding the false dualism [sic] thing; you’re right about that. The word I should have used is Carnality. The word Carnal brings to mind a movie with Jack Nicholson and Ann Margaret. Regarding my responsibility for evil growing worse everyday, that doesn’t bode well for the future does it? I didn’t know all this existentialism stuff would cause so many problems. I’ll just butt out. As they say, “Discretion is the greater part of valor.” That’s hard to do when you’re a man though (get the hint?)

Well it’s getting late and I’m running out of ink trying to respond to you’re litany of wisdoms, but I’ll get back to you. Let me leave you with a few thoughts.

Regarding the “Christian Superhero;” According to the record, his teachings were many, and varied, and I have heard many interpretations of them. I prefer not to use them in support of my postulations; I believe doing so would be infinitely arrogant, and a personal assumption of the worst sort.

It seems pretty hard to avoid evil these days. It seems like there would be a whole lot of ducking and dodging involved. You seem to know a lot about how to deal with it, or not deal with it. I hope you’re damned sure you know what you’re against, or not against. You seem to think evil is an entity. I see evil as an action, and I believe evil actions must be combated.

I would suppose that Crazy Horse would not have found you very useful.

When remembering Washita, do you not see your self righteous pronouncements regarding evil for what they are?

Dispatches: Inside Britain’s Israel Lobby

Video - Channel 4 UK - Broadcast November 16, 2009

“Dispatches investigates one of the most powerful and influential political lobbies in Britain, which is working in support of the interests of the State of Israel.

Despite wielding great influence among the highest realms of British politics and media, little is known about the individuals and groups which collectively are known as the pro-Israel lobby.

Political commentator Peter Oborne sets out to establish who they are, how they are funded, how they work and what influence they have, from the key groups to the wealthy individuals who help bankroll the lobbying.

He investigates how accountable, transparent and open to scrutiny the lobby is, particularly in regard to its funding and financial support of MPs.

The pro-Israel lobby aims to shape the debate about Britain’s relationship with Israel and future foreign policies relating to it.

Oborne examines how the lobby operates from within parliament and the tactics it employs behind the scenes when engaging with print and broadcast media.”

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A GREAT VIDEO ON THE ZIONIST/PRO ISRAELI LOBBY

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23997.htm

Certainly in this format, as JDmysticDJ points-out, we are stuck with “words.”  What this old Savage was suggesting earlier here is that the “fund” of words available to our tame Sisters and Brothers has been systematically (like the U.S. treasury) looted by vested interests looking to “corner-the-market” on the establishment of “meaning,” which is in-effect the only real “value” of language….making meaning merely another “commodity” for the speculators to fool with. 

There have in-fact been a number of well-known domesticated “philosophers” (H.G. Wells, e.g.) who’ve noticed this process, and have warned of serious CONsequences (to peoples utterly dependent upon language to negotiate daily the virtual terrain of their half-lives) when their language becomes as impoverished (“spiritually” and otherwise) as they are theirownselfs….or, as so much language has become here in these latter days, actually toxic to its hapless users.

The “problem” of “evil” can only grow worse every day, when those having to CONfront it are operating out of artificial CONceits and received opinions leaving them completely adrift in a virtual CONstruct whose “rules” are subject to the whims and designs of “individuals” who effectively exempt their own kind from the “downside” effects of their manipulations.  DJmysticJD illustrates this disconnect in her/his own postulation, as argument, of the false dualism of “carnal” vs. “spiritual” in the Life of our Mother Earth and Her Children.

Among us surviving free wild Human Beings no such separation has ever been experienced, which is why we see the prevalence of that illusion among our domesticated Human Relations as a disease….one having grievous debilitating effects on them.  From the Ancients we have this bit of hard-won wisdom:  When evil is branded it thinks of weapons.  To combat it on its own terms is to fall prey to the very thing one hopes to overcome.

So before even the most courageous set out to “resist” evil (which the christian superhero-figure admonished his followers to avoid), they’d better be damned sure they know exactly what it is they’re against.  In our experience, the essence of evil is excess….not knowing when enough is enough, or knowing but ‘going there’ anyhow.  We’ve also noticed the Natural consequences of excess are themselves always the perfect “punishment” for it….so we aren’t trapped in an endlessly vicious cycle of having to think-up ever more draconian sanctions of our own, like our tame Sisters and Brothers are.

“Thinking” is hardly the only way to get some worthwhile sense of the rhythms and flows of the Song ‘n’ Dance of Life Herownself.  In-fact, thinking, in this Old Man’s experience, is a lot more likely to get you into way worse trouble than it’ll ever get you out-of.  It’s just like shooting, in that regard.

So maybe JDmysticDJ’s facile way with words and his/her rather run-of-the-mill philosophical musings aren’t the unmitigated blessing they’re so widely believed to be among the subspecies homo domesticus.  Maybe the real arrogance is to be found among those who think what Lao Tse called “the plain truth of Nature” just isn’t good enough for them.

HokaHey!

TAO Walker

There is a famous French philosopher named Rousseau
“Rousseau argues that the progression of the sciences and arts has caused the corruption of virtue and morality.”

Rousseau wrote several books on the subject. He did use “words” to put fourth his thoughts. Just as you do in your posts.  Obviously He did “Think” about the issue, just as, I’m sure, you “think” when you post.

The dictionary definition of “Philosophy” is long, but it begins with these words:
“The study of the truths and principles of being….”

In describing Tyoshpaye you say there’s no ‘philosophy’ in it at all….only basic biology,” but in your posts, you seem to be something of a philosopher.

The Earth in its carnality, and with its predator and prey realities, may be a perfect “biological” organism, but the laws of nature have been considered insufficient by all of the Earth’s peoples, as they have contemplated their existence. All of the earth’s peoples have delved into the realm of spirituality, or the other worldly, as they have contemplated the mystery of life. The Earth as an organism is but a part of a greater organism that encompasses a solar system, stars, galaxies, and an apparently all encompassing Universe, or the great unknown if you prefer. Just as the Earth has its laws of nature, many, not all, but many believe this greater organism also has its laws, and have endeavored to understand these laws (Not Newtons laws, but other laws.) Any man who claims to understand the mysteries of the Great Unknown is displaying the pinnacle of arrogance, but some believe the – laws -  of the Great Unknown may, to some extent, be deduced through observation and experience. Some believe that there are no laws, other than the Earth’s Carnal Laws, and they live their lives accordingly. Others claim authority in understanding these laws, and they live their lives accordingly. Others claim no authority, but seek to understand these laws as they pertain to the concepts of good and evil, and they live their lives accordingly. Some believe the concepts of good and evil are merely the inventions of superstitious minds, and they live their lives accordingly. Some believe the concepts of good and evil are real, and the results of these concepts are easily, and sometimes painfully, recognized as they’re encountered in life, and they live their lives accordingly. Some believe the good is derived from the Spiritual and the evil is derived from the Carnal, and they live their lives accordingly. Some take the spiritually dangerous, but existentially courageous decision to combat the evil, and they live their lives accordingly.

A Gaza Group Hamas-Loyal has offered a 1.4 million bounty for an Israeli soldier.

Hamas-Loyal intends to use that soldier in an exchange with Israel for Palestinian Prisoners held by Israel.

This old savage is happy to welcome Writer On The Storm “aboard.”  The tiyoshpaye is simply the natural organic form of Humanity within the Living Arrangement of our Mother Earth….like the “pack” is that of Wolf, or the “colony” of HoneyBee.  It is in-keeping with our natural organic function, which is that of a component of Her immune system….not “the brains” as so many have been so grievously misled to believe.

Again, there’s no “philosophy” in it at all….only basic biology.  We have no more need-of or use-for make-believe than our free wild Relatives have….or our own hearts and livers do.  It’s true that homo domesticus has become a virtual prisoner of language, and that the “moderns’” vocabularies have become worse than merely useless as means to “think” their way out of the mess they’re in.

Get into genuine “community” first, then the exact responses necessary to living through this terminal phase of “global civilization” will become as clear as they are accessible.  It is the terrible irony of their predicament that domesticated “individuals’” very CONdition prevents them from recognizing it as such, let alone getting a grip on its specific features….or seeing in Nature the remedy for it.

The Way “out” is a Living Way.  It’s not words or principals or artificial social “systems.”  It’s not heroes or villains or melodrama of any kind.  It is simply taking care of each other where you live and breathe everyday….and attending conscientiously to whatever in the way of the “out-of-place” comes to your notice.

Sorry not to be able to glamorize it, or give it an air of “mystery,” or come-up with a set of “commandments.”  It’s just doin’ what comes….Naturally.

HokaHey!

Franco—I would think that that would make Israel want peace even more. You might want to give a link or something as to where you read that , about “1.4 million”

These comments are overblown with hysteria..it seems to always be that way when there is a story on here about Israel/Palestine.

Franco

If there were peace, there would be no such thing as a 1.4 million dollar bounty for an Israeli soldier.

Go ahead promote war. Anyone who advocates for war instead of peace is an Moral and Itellectual retard.

“MORE visible REPRESENTATIVE of the JEWISH people THAN ANY OTHER BODY, ORGANIZATION OR ENTITY- including the State of Israel”.

This is nonsense. Please! There are real issues to be considered. Let’s not get delusional about small delusional organisations that suffer from self grandeur. Chabab Lubavitch may have racist religious beliefs, but those kinds of beliefs are not exclusive to Chabab Lubavitch, and there is no evidence, that I’ve seen, that indicates Chabab Lubavitch is anything more than a small group of fundamentalist whackos. More “visible” than Israel?

Nahida

The evidence you present seems overwhelming.  I would classify Chabad Lubavitch as an extremist organization, and a threat to a peaceful resolution to the Israeli Palestinian Conflict, as Dershowitz is. Even so, I’m also wondering if there are individuals within Chabad Lubavitch whose beliefs are extreme, even to Chabad Lubavitch, Furthermore, I’m wondering if you have quoted these extreme individuals as being representative of Chabad Lubavitch.  If I’m wrong, forgive me. I prefer not to believe that Israeli thought is dominated by the beliefs of extreme members within extremist groups.

Who Will Be Next?

The Eviction Of Palestinian Families Continue

“The United Nations, the United States and the European Union have all called on Israel to stop the illegal eviction of Palestinians and the demolition of their homes.

Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, urged Israel to end its “provocative actions” in East Jerusalem, while calling for it to freeze all settlement activity in the occupied West Bank.

Despite that, the sight of Palestinians in East Jerusalem being forced out of their homes has become an all too familiar scene.

Video - Al Jazeera’s Jacky Rowland reports from occupied East Jerusalem.”

Posted November 17, 2009

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24001.htm

Who Will Be Next?

The Eviction Of Palestinian Families Continue

The United Nations, the United States and the European Union have all called on Israel to stop the illegal eviction of Palestinians and the demolition of their homes.

Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, urged Israel to end its “provocative actions” in East Jerusalem, while calling for it to freeze all settlement activity in the occupied West Bank.

Despite that, the sight of Palestinians in East Jerusalem being forced out of their homes has become an all too familiar scene.

Video - Al Jazeera’s Jacky Rowland reports from occupied East Jerusalem.

Posted November 17, 2009

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24001.htm

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Chabad-Lubavitch Centers in the world:

North-America

http://www.chabad.org.uk/centers/default_cdo/aid/9311/jewish/North-America.htm
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Central-South-America

http://www.chabad.org.uk/centers/default_cdo/aid/9312/jewish/Central-South-America.htm
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Europe

http://www.chabad.org.uk/centers/default_cdo/aid/9313/jewish/Europe.htm
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israel

http://www.chabad.org.uk/centers/default_cdo/aid/9331/jewish/Israel.htm
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Africa

http://www.chabad.org.uk/centers/default_cdo/aid/9315/jewish/Africa.htm
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Asia

http://www.chabad.org.uk/centers/default_cdo/aid/9316/jewish/Asia.htm
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Australia

http://www.chabad.org.uk/centers/default_cdo/aid/9317/jewish/Australia-New-Zealand.htm
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CHABAD CONFERENCE:

http://www.chabad.org/news/photo_cdo/aid/593396/jewish/Largest-Ever-Chabad-Conference.htm

“Close to 4,500 Chabad-Lubavitch emissaries, their parents and supporters packed the ballroom on Manhattan’s Pier 94 for the grand banquet of the International Conference of Chabad-Lubavitch Emissaries.”

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“Chabad’s success depends on its accessibility”

Excerpts of:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1227702365037

“This amazing outreach campaign, first orchestrated by Schneerson and continued by his followers since his death in 1994, has made Chabad a MORE visible REPRESENTATIVE of the JEWISH people THAN ANY OTHER BODY, ORGANIZATION OR ENTITY- including the State of Israel”.

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Jonathan Sacks, UK’s Chief Rabbi Opens New Chabad Center

http://lubavitch.com/news/article/2017098/United-Kingdoms-Chief-Rabbi-Opens-New-Chabad-Center.htm

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Chabad Comes to Cambridge

http://lubavitch.com/news/article/2014820/Chabad-Comes-to-Cambridge.html

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Chabad of Vancouver Recipient of $1.2 Million Government Grants

http://lubavitch.com/news/article/2027390/Chabad-of-Vancouver-Recipient-of-1-2-Million-Government-Grants.html
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“Chabad Lubavitch”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad

ADHERENTS:

Abbreviated excerpts from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad#Philosophy_of_Chabad

Chabad is currently thought to be the THIRD or FOURTH LARGEST Hasidic movement in Orthodox Judaism in terms of numbers of adherents. There are more than 200,000 adherents to the movement, and up to a MILLION JEWS attend Chabad services at least once a year.”

CAMPS:

Main article: Gan Israel Camping Network
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gan_Israel_Camping_Network

“Chabad has set up an extensive network of camps around the world, ……. There are 1,200 sites serving 210,000 CHILDREN — most of whom DO NOT come from Orthodox homes. Of these, 500 camps are in the United States.”

CAMPUS:

Main article: Chabad on Campus Foundation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad_on_Campus_Foundation

“In recent years Chabad has greatly expanded its reach on university and college campuses. Chabad Student Centers are active on over 100 campuses, and Chabad offers varied activities at an additional 150 universities worldwide.

“Professor Alan Dershowitz has said that “Chabad’s presence on college campuses today is absolutely crucial”, and “WE CANNOT REST UNTIL CHABAD IS ON EVERY MAJOR CAMPUS IN THE WORLD”

INTERNET:

Main article: Chabad.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad.org

Setting up Chabad.org, one of the first Jewish educational websites[ and the first and largest virtual congregation.It serves not just its own members but Jews worldwide in general. According to Alexa.com, Chabad.org is currently the largest Jewish educational website worldwide.

INFLUENCE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad#Philosophy_of_Chabad

Chabad pioneered the post-World War II outreach movement, which spread Judaism to many assimilated Jews worldwide, leading to a substantial number of baalei teshuva (“returnees” to Judaism). The very first Yeshiva/Rabbinical College for such “baalei teshuva”, Hadar Hatorah was established by the Lubavitcher Rebbe. Chabad was also one of the first Jewish outreach organizations to use the World Wide Web as an outreach tool.

Chabad followers have had a notable influence on Jewish entertainment. Composer and rabbi Shlomo Carlebach began his outreach work as a representative of Chabad (he later moved away from the movement), Avraham Fried is also an adherent.

According to Steven I. Weiss, Chabad’s ideology has DRAMATICALLY INFLUENCED NON-Hasidic Jews’

“There are extremist groups on both sides of the issue. No one should accept the beliefs of extremist groups as being representative”

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JDmydticDJ,

I wish that what you say is true, however, after painstaking research I discovered that this SUPREMACIST ideology as held by “CHABAD LUBAVITCH”, as an “ultra-orthodox-fundamentalist branch of Judaism”,is far morw wide spread than one would imagine

This alarming ideology is not confined to a small group of lunatics, as one might hope or imagine!!!
I URGE YOU ALL to research the ideology of “Chabad Lubavitch”

At first; I assumed these were some fringe radical lunatics, of which we can find equivalents in most cultures. As long as they are monitored and their dangerous ideology exposed, and as long as they are at safe distance outside the axiomatic centres of our cultures and civilizations, their freedom of speech and thought should not be denied.

But the endless amount of these publications and their cross-referencing, accumulates to substantial evidence, proving their own boasting of being “…A MORE VISIBLE REPRESENTITIVE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER BODY, ORGANIZATION OR ENTITY- INCLUDING THE STATE OF ISRAEL”

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1227702365037

It will require a lot of patience, to be able to read through, listen to tapes and look at the pictures, no matter how much time it needs, I think that investigating such horrors and finding out the scope of their influence, authority and outreach, is a duty, as well as an obligation

I have listened to rabbi’s recordings and lectures, what I have heard made me sick and made my heart cry

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Nahida

The images you present are beyond disturbing. The horror of those images should cause those who have supported the actions that created those images, to have second thoughts about their support, if they have any sense of common decency.

Presenting the despicable beliefs of extremist groups is enlightening, but only condemns those who ascribe to those beliefs (To one degree or another.)

There are extremist groups on both sides of the issue. No one should accept the beliefs of extremist groups as being representative; doing so is counter productive, creates intransigence, and inhibits efforts to bring an end to the madness.

Photographic Evidence of WAR CRIMES and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY

Please WATCH, SAVE and PASS ON- spread the TRUTH:

Don’t Say “I Didn’t Know!!”

Don’t Say “I Haven’t Seen!!”

Don’t Say ?They Told Me So? !!

Don’t Say ?The Media Didn’t Tell Me? !!

WARNING

Many images are VERY DISTURBING

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Illegal weapons

http://tinyurl.com/yk9arbu

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Gaza Genocide

http://tinyurl.com/ycnojwt

http://tinyurl.com/yhv2col

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Racist zionist

http://tinyurl.com/yg27obf

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Attacking medics, ambulances and press

http://tinyurl.com/98uq43

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Children of Palestine

http://tinyurl.com/8qhcxy

http://tinyurl.com/yfwxvtw

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What Israel did in East Jerusalam today was a crime against humanity, but not their first.

We are as guilty as they are.

SO, what is this “Chabad” thingy???

For those who don’t know who or what “CHABAD LUBAVITCH” is, please just google it, and discover the MOST VILE SUPREMACY you could ever imagine or come across

An insight into “Chabad” ideology:

Quotes:

“There are two different and distinct entities: the human being, and the Jew who is part of G-d”
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“We are a G-dly people, we have G-dly souls. Our place is in Heaven, in fact higher than Heaven because Heaven is also a created place, and we are a part of G-d”
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“The world wants leadership and who are they going to look to for moral leadership if not the Jews?”
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“We are to treat other Jews as Divine beings, because that’s what they are”

(quotes by Rabbi Manis Friedman author and lecturer, dean of Bais Chanah Women’s Institute of Jewish Studies):

Excerpts from:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2902/jewish/What-Is-the-Cause-of-Antisemitism.htm

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The epithets affirming that the people of Israel are really special:

“Am Segula” (the chosen people),

“Goy Kadosh UMamlechet Kohanim” (a holy people and a nation of priests),

“MeAl HaTeva” (above nature),

“Ba’alei Nevuah” (masters of prophecy),

“Ba’alei Hashpa’a Nissit” (exercisers of miraculous influence)

“Kol Yisrael Tzaddikim” (all Israel are righteous),

Excerpts from:

http://www.projectmind.org/exoteric/kabbalah.html

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“We are Jews because G-d chose us to be His “cherished treasure from all the nations… a kingdom of priests and a holy people” (Exodus 19:5-6).

“We are Jews because G-d chose us to play the central role in the implementation of His purpose in creation”

Excerpts from

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/45132/jewish/What-Makes-a-Jew-Jewish.htm

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“It is this soul that gives the Jew the power to be G-dly in a human world, and supernatural in a natural universe.”

Excerpts from:

http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/192,2172582/Can-you-describe-the-Jewish-soul.html#article_email_loc

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“We have proved ourselves to be the leaders of enlightenment, progress and revolution wherever we have traveled..”

“If it were not for Jews, there would be no concept of human dignity, of meaning and purpose, of the right of every person to education and knowledge, of social justice and of the value of world peace”

Excerpts from:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/743998/jewish/How-do-you-get-a-Jewish-soul.htm

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“This soul, the irrevocable inheritance of every single Jew, is pure and unsullied, holy and powerful.”

Excerpts from:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/743998/jewish/How-do-you-get-a-Jewish-soul.htm
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CHABAD LUBAVITCHER RABBI opens a US Congress session with a prayer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5co4oo-3654&feature=related

In Senate, the same happens

Rabbi Cohen Opens CA Senate Session

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUn6Tn-_aPE&feature=related

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The New Ten Commandments:

1) Thou shall not criticize Israel

2) Thou shall revere the holocaust with all thy heart

3) Thou shall have no doubt in your heart of the number 6 million

4) Thou shall not compare the unique suffering of the Jews with any other

5) Thou shall honour Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state

6) Thou shall adore the “sinless” Israel, regardless of allegations of sins

7) Thou shall believe that Israel has the right to defend itself and protect its security by all means (but not Muslims)

8 ) Thou shall not kill (except Muslims)

9) Thou shall not lie (except about Muslim’s WMD)

10) Thou shall obediently share your earning with Israel (through your tax money)

And there is a bonus eleventh commandment:

11) Thou shall sacrifice as many humans as humanly possible (specially those who dare to say NO) on the alter of greed and security of the Jewish state
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A question:

We protest and moan much about ethnic minorities when underrepresented in work places and government positions -and rightly so- as this is clearly a reflection of injustice.

But why does the world keep utterly silent when a “certain” minority is HUGELY overrepresented in sensitive positions in many world governments??

WHY??

Where is the uproar??

Isn’t this also a blatant injustice against the majority of those countries?

PS

And pleeeeeeease no one should come with the reiterated myth that they are more “intelligent” than the rest of us as a justification for this absurdity, because this fable is the MOST RACIST claim they have managed to indoctrinate the masses to accept

see how they spread their RACIST myths and lies:

http://baconeatingatheistjew.blogspot.com/2006/03/arab-intelligence-insanity-and.html

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BARBARIANS

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24001.htm

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Sherwood Says

“How about for a change, the media (including
Truthdig) should focus on the terror that
Palestinians have been causing to Israelis non-stop
for the past three years. Let’s play along and
pretend the Palestinians bombarded southern Israel
with hundreds of rockets per week for months
straight….oh wait they did.”

Tragically eight Israelis died from rocket attack in 2008, and apparently three more Israelis died in 2009. Human Rights Watch reports that 15 Israelis have been killed as a result of rocket attacks from Gaza, since 2001 when the rocket attacks first began. Human Rights Watch has deemed these rocket attacks to be War Crimes because the rockets were intentionally directed at Israeli populations. The rocket attacks ceased for a time in 2008, but resumed again after an Israeli Military Incursion into Gaza (The incursion resulted in the deaths of 5 Palestinians.) Perhaps, the Israeli Government bears some indirect responsibility for the suffering of Israelis, which resulted after the rocket attacks resumed. However, and justifiably so, the rocket attacks have been classified as War Crimes by Human Rights Watch.

As I recall, the media has reported on the rocket attacks, including the details associated with those attacks. The reports used video and commentary in an effort to show the results of those attacks.

Also tragically, the Israeli Government chose to invade Palestinian territory. The Israeli Government stated that the goal of the invasion was to stop the attacks, and that the attack on heavily populated Palestinian areas was justified, and necessary, in order to stop the rocket attacks. The numbers of Palestinians killed in the attack ranged from 1350 to over 1500. Human Rights Watch classified the Israeli invasion as a war crime, because it was an attack on a civilian population. The United Nations sponsored Goldstone Report reported that Israeli military forces were guilty of indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians. The Goldstone report was rejected by Israel and the United States House of Representatives, without investigation, in spite of the report’s being well documented. There is Video evidence to support Mr. Goldstone’s allegations, and Mr. Goldstone’s credentials as an unbiased investigator are unimpeachable.

This forum doesn’t allow for anything other than a cursory analysis of the Israeli Palestinian conflict, but the consequences of this conflict have been far reaching and horrifically tragic. The potential for further horrors is obvious.  Israelis suspect Arabs want to deny Israelis the right to a homeland and Arabs point to Israeli intransigence and expanding settlements as evidence that Israel seeks a Greater Israel which will encompass all of what was formerly Palestine.

You State

And we are supposed to think that the Palestinians
are the victim? It was only after repeated pleads to
stop firing rockets into Israel and for them to
consciously choose not to, that the Israelis began a
military offensive against Gaza. Poor gaza… they
called that military operation on themselves and they
paid for it. Even though innocent people were killed,
the irresponsibility of the Hamas groups is to blame
for their deaths. They chose to fight their battles
in the crowded streets of civilian life. They chose
to use their own people as human shields against the
Israeli army. We need to stop feeding Palestinians
the sympathy that they feed on to gain global support
and we need to actually start focusing on the facts,
rather than what corporate driven media and numb-
minded writers feed us.

It’s long past the time when people should have stopped considering themselves as victims and started working for a fair and equitable settlement of the conflict.

Unilaterally?  Isn’t everything that Israhel does unilateral?  So, why should it be an issue if Palestine does something uniterally?  Oh, never mind that, I just forgot that Israhell is entitled to do things unilaterally, after all, they’re not self-appointed Chosen for nothin’

For the readers that are not sure what Tiyoshpaye means,well it’s very similar to “hakuna matata”. c’mon you know the song.

I would urge the Palestinians to immediately declare themselves a state based on the 1967 borders. The United Nations would agree with them and has the power to enforce the decree.

From what I can surmise about TAO Walker’s concept of “Genuine Living Organic Community”, one of the better
examples might be an Israeli Kibbutz. Though one could debate just how organic a community is when it occupies
another’s land and relies on the mechanisms of out-grouping for its vitality and sense of cohesion, the Kibbutz
otherwise seems to satisfy most other prescripts of Tiyoshpaye, at least those TAO Walker has seen fit to elucidate.

Communities come in all shapes and sizes, from nomadic tribes to sewing circles. All of them develop some sort of
organization eventually, and organization is the seed of civilization and civilization starts with a “c” and “c”, apparently,
stands for “CONtraption”. I’m all for lifting the veil and escaping the Great Sausage Grinder of western civilization, but
I have yet to come across an alternative form of community that is invulnerable to hierarchic structure (not just the
richer-than of greater western societies, but also the holier-than of religious/mystic communities), and its payload of
misery and struggle. The most promising are the historical pirate proto-anarchies, and Hakim Bey’s theoretical
Temporary Autonomous Zone. Both of these have the fatal problem of existing only as subsets of the greater
community upon which they depend.

If TAO Walker knows The Way Out, I’m all ears. I’m eager to find the exit sign from which my “projections” have
apparently blinded me. But if Tiyoshpaye turns out to be some Native American form of Zarathustra’s cave,
transcendental meditation, or the Unabomber’s cabin, count me out. If you can’t get the whole bus and everyone in it
to the location, it’s just another romantic ValhallaNirvanaManana.

Nor do I have truck for some sentimental concept of nature’s fraternal bosom. The image of the free wild Human Being
may strike a power chord with homo-domesticus, but once you’ve traded in the suit-and-tie for a ceremonial loin
cloth, metaphorically speaking naturellement,  where exactly are you, and where did those storm clouds come from?

If, however, Tiyoshpaye is closer to a philosophy, a more effective way of looking at the world, a sustainable approach
to life that works for everyone/thing on the planet, or even just method of interaction that does not invite f*cking
someone over or getting f*cked, then I’m on board, brother. All the way.

We should not allow any tax dollars to support a bigoted and racist nation.  Congress and the President pushed resolutions that endorse the slaughter.  My nation is controlled by AIPAC acting for the foreign nation of Israel.  Israel banned the only two Arab parties in Israel before the national election.  It is not a Democracy.  Israel’s government is Apartheid. It is time to begin treating the Palestinians as human beings and respecting their choices made in free elections.  They need their own country, free to live in peace without controls and invasions of their territory by Israel.  It is time for us to tell Israel to remove their settlements, to come to the bargaining table with a workable plan to create a Palestinian nation or we will cease to be their Minion and will withhold any further economic and military support until they comply.
We can not continue to support the state-sanctioned murder of children, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.  Israel has literally enclosed the Palestinians in a giant prison (concentration camp, reservation) from which there is no escape. Israel prevents food, medical supplies, fuel, and water being supplied to these PEOPLE and destroys the entire infrastructure by bombing them without any limits on the places that should be safe and secure for civilians and their children.  Half the population of Gaza is children.  The result of this invasion is both monstrous and inevitable.  We can no longer pretend to be on the side of right when we blindly support a nation who has used a comparatively insignificant (crudely made rockets) security threat as an excuse to force a group of people into an Apartheid situation and then treating them like the objects of a grotesque blood sport.  There can be no excuse for bombing mosques, hospitals, and schools.  If you saw a gunman firing at you from near a school, would you destroy it with a rocket, knowing you would kill dozens of children?  No, the correct response would be to use a marksman to eliminate the threat.  What kind of monsters makes the choice to bomb the school and kill the children?                                  A Palestinian state is important because the Palestinian people are stateless. With NO CITIZENSHIP in a state the Palestinian people are left vulnerable and without rights, since there is no state that will defend their rights. If someone tried to steal your home, you could ask the police of your town to remove them, with reference to the property deed that you filed with your municipal authorities.  Since Israelis take over Palestinian land, the Palestinians have no one to complain to since they do NOT HAVE A STATE AND THEREFORE NO RIGHTS. The Israeli courts favor the colonizers and don’t recognize Palestinian rights. PALESTINIANS do NOT have the right to have rights.
    This is what happens when the United States commits atrocities and loses the right of moral leadership.  Our House of Representatives refused to recognize the results of the GOLDSTONE REPORT.  We all need to stand up and admit that our government has been wrong, that this incursion by Israel is wrong, that this must be stopped.

Night-Gaunt: You may indeed be describing the future, and I am sure if that came to pass AIPAC and its congressional lackeys would support Israel’s act of “self-defense” to the end. Actually, it’s about time for another intifada—the current population of 15-20 year olds in Palestine were too young to be involved in the 2000-2001 uprising, so the timing is ripe.  Israel may try and provoke an intifada—as Sharon did in 2000—and then use it as an excuse to do exactly what you describe (as always, in the name of “self-defense”).  But in the long run, all they will be doing is pushing the border of hostility a bit to the east—the wars, the hatred, the killing will go on.

I must respectfully disagree with you Seektruth for with the population decline in Palestinian land over the intervening years all that is needed is a world crisis to take the world’s eyes off of the area and then the Israelis can move in an clean them out very fast. No one in the area can resist them like supine Jordan.  Once that is done they will claim all the land as theirs and raize everything shortly thereafter. It is something that I can see them doing and it would be a crime but will the USA do more than talk about it? Yes and the billions will then flow as usual.

Lary: Israel has plenty of land within the Green Line on which to build new housing.  Settlements are about ethnic cleansing, not about housing. The right of return is indeed an issue, but every Palestinian leader has said that it is to be negotiated—and many have said, on the record, that they acknowledge Israel’s right to determine who is allowed to live in Israel.  The idea of Israel being “swamped” by Palestinians is ludicrous—ethno-racist fearmongering at its worst. You need to get out of the ghetto of tribal fear in which you live.  Israel’s dream of cleanising Palestine of its inhabitants was unrealistic in 1948 and is even more unrealistic today.  There are only two options: two sovereign states or one democratic state with equal rights for all.  It’s time that you and other so-called supporters of Israel end the fearmongering, bigotry and racism, and make a choice.

Lary: Israel has plenty of land within the Green Line on which to build new housing.  Settlements are about ethnic cleansing, not about housing. The right of return is indeed an issue, but every Palestinian leader has said that it is to be negotiated—and many have said, on the record, that they acknowledge Israel’s right to determine who is allowed to live in Israel.  The idea of Israel being “swamped” by Palestinians is ludicrous—etno-racist fearmongering at its worst. You need to get out of the ghetto of tribal fear in which you live.  Israel’s dream of cleanising Palestine of its inhabitants was unrealistic in 1948 and is even more unrealistic today.  There are only two options: two sovereign states or one democratic state with equal rights for all.  It’s time that you and other so-called supporters of Israel end the fearmongering, bigotry and racism, and make a choice.

Israel always looks to the future. There will be a need for more housing in the future, so some nonsense agreement about not building any more is just plain irrational. There is one thing in the way for a two state solution and that is the right of return. The Palestinians want the right of return so they can swamp Israel and make it a virulent Islamic state. Do you think the Jewish State is going there? That is the problem; the Palestinians will not accept Israel, period. Now go wash out your mouth with soap.

Lary Waldman

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I think you are on the wrong thread. There is no Mandorkie in this thread.

Oh yeah (oops!) Mandorkie’s on another truthdig thread. Thanks! I’ll need to do a little copy and paste. Never mind.

Actually the most racist* Zionists want a one state solution their Aryan..oops, Semitic Jews for a Jewish state only. Even the Arabs that live there will be in trouble if the worse of the worse like Albagore Liberman runs the show.

Technically many non Israelis are also Semites including the Palestinians so who is the “anti Semite” in this context? Though there is a small group of such Zionists who are spreading the false meme that the Palestinians aren’t Semites at all.

The merits of hate are love of ones own small group over all others just as for some there is only one true religion and they are atheist to all the others.

Love of this type that is directly connected to hate in order to flourish is very serious. Not a healthy combination for anyone & can easily lead to genocide.

What really happened in Gaza w/ Dr. Norman Finkelstein 2009 Trailer

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Click link to watch this short video on the well known ... Israel’s IDF murderers & child killers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55jlS_w46no&feature=player_embedded

Re:By JDmydticDJ, November 17 at 9:54 pm #

Mandorkie says…......
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I think you are on the wrong thread. There is no Mandorkie in this thread.

How Writer On The Storm found any “moralizing” in this old Savage’s clinical diagnosis of the condition the domesticated peoples’ CONdition is in can only be a consequence of his/her own ‘projecting’.... maybe amply illustrated in that acerbic description of those sick fools attempting genocide upon their concentration-camped fellow-Shemite neighbors.  As for these “....poor Palestinians,” to whatever extent any among them actually are in The Tiyoshpaye Way, they have much better chances of coming through Earth’s Purification Ceremony in much better shape than any of their CONtraption-dwelling tormentors….tamed two-legged and otherwise.

Writer On The Storm’s inability to “see” our Mother Earth doing what She must to resist the “infestation” really says a lot more about her/his own visual impairment than it says about anything else.  That the handicap is shared with pretty much every other “individual” in the same predicament might be of some comfort….cold though that may be.

For every disease there is a Natural Medicine.  The cure for what ails homo domesticus is in us surviving free wild Human Beings.  Nobody here in Indian Country gives a shit about anything at all in the make-believe world-o’-hurt….least of all its pretensions to “divine” ordination, with all the moralistic idiocy that engenders and which its command-and-CONtrol regime tries to enforce.

It is a testimony to just how disconnected are the domesticated peoples from their Natural Place that so many of them are so insensate to what is actually happening in our Living Arrangement.  Writer On The Storm offers us, perhaps unwittingly, a stark example of the DEAD END outlook of those enmeshed in the toils of a collapsing “civilization.” 

Besides, it’s always possible even a Being as innately vital as our Mother Earth will succumb finally to the assault of the tormentors, aided and abetted by their tame two-legged tools.  Even that prospect is a lot less daunting to Her surviving free wild Children, though, than it is for those whose only other “options” range from oblivion to pie-in-the-sky-when-you-die.

This is a Living World in a Living Universe.  It’s all BIOLOGY, tame Sisters and Brothers.  No need to complicate your half-lives with the fools-gold of glittering abstraction….and plenty of damned good reasons not to.

HokaHey!

Uh-oh

I think I made a mistake. I probably shouldn’t have posted that last comment I made to ManDorkie.

I’m afraid I might make him angry.

I’m afraid that if he gets too angry, he’ll go out and beat-up an old lady or something.

Mandorkie says

“……….if you have been following the war then you would realize that barak made a conscious decision to increase OUR casualties and reduce the afganies.”

I think you meant Barack, (It’s spelled with a C and a capital B)

Wow! I had no idea that Barack “….Made a conscious decision to increase OUR casualties…” he really is evil, isn’t he? (Oh, in case you’re not incapable of recognizing such, I’m being sarcastic)

“…..and reduce the afganies.”

I think you meant Afghani’s, (It would be spelled with a capital A no E and an apostrophe) but I’m still unclear. Did you mean reduce casualties for the Afghani people, or did you mean reduce casualties for the Afghani bad guys. If the latter is true, it only reinforces how truly evil Barack is (More sarcasm.)

“The ground troops can no longer call in for air support…..”

Is that true? It’s beginning to look like Barack is a secret supporter of the Afghan Taliban. (Also sarcasm)

“……and if some is sent the standing rules are “the pilot must independently verify that they are bad guys”.

Now I’m confused. Didn’t you say the ground troops could not call in for air support?

“….the pilot must independently verify that they are bad guys”.

That’s outrageous! Are you saying that the pilots must actually know what they’re pointing at, before they pull the trigger?(More Sarcasm.)

“As a result more troops have been killed since this moronic policy was put in place.”

Hum? The idea that we should avoid killing innocents truly is a “moronic policy” (Not really, only morons fail to see why we shouldn’t be killing non-combatants.) I didn’t know there is absolute and quantifiable proof that this “Moronic policy” is responsible for the increase in casualties (Actually I think that only morons believe that.)

“He has 2 choices either allow the military to fight the war or get the hell out.”

Can we trust him with 2 choices? Not when he’s proven himself to be a secret supporter of the Afghan Taliban. I’ve heard that he has 4 other choices. So let’s see….? Your 2 choices, plus the other 4 choices (That makes 6.) That’s way too many choices for him, because he’s a moron. I think he should choose one of your 2 choices, because you are obviously the genius, but I think we should only give him one choice. The one that doesn’t require too much thought, him being a moron and all. That would be “… get the ‘HELL’ out! (Some sarcasm. Are you able to identify the sarcasm? Sorry, I’m making this difficult aren’t I)

I’m very glad I read your comment. It’s been very educational (sarcasm.)

Regarding your last sentence, (I think it’s a sentence, I think you may have left out some words, letters or punctuation marks or something, its very difficult to understand.)

“As for some of your other comments about the country and value it’s the neo communists wanting us to get involved military with regions we have no interest. Whether its Angola, Haiti, Rwanda they are disposable countries and let them determine their own society”
This “neo communist” thing (You need to put a hyphen between the two words.) Are you referring to Obama? I think…..? He’s a centrist Democrat, just a little left of center. Are you referring to people who advocate for intervening in foreign countries, thereby not allowing these countries to “determine their own society?” I thought it was Neocons who do that, not “Neo-Communists.” If you’re talking about people who advocate intervening in countries where genocide is occurring, well then, that doesn’t seem so bad. I’ve always thought communists were kind of bad, but if these “Neo-Communists” you talk about want to intervene to prevent genocide…?.....?.... I’m so confused! I guess its because I’m not as smart as you are (Heavy sarcasm.)

Tao writes:

<<Again, any number of Humans can recover the integrity of their Organic Function, and so be counted
among Her Children whom she will not “waste.”  >>

It’s odd to find a moralizing rapture fantasy coming from one of the clearest thinkers on TD, including the
editorial contributors. I see no evidence of the planet defending itself against the relentless stripping and
exploitation of the ecosystem at the hands of man. If anything, human beings resemble nothing so much as a
parasitic infestation which threatens, if not to kill the planet, then certainly to render it useless for sustaining
the kinds of life forms it has thus far enjoyed.

Eschatological reveries aside, it’s getting on to end times for the poor Palestinians, who suffer and die at the
hands, NOT of the “CONtraption”, but at the fearful vindictiveness of a mob of imperialist, racist, religious
fanatics determined to plant their flag in the collective hearts of a people whose only crime was to have the
nerve to attempt their “Tiyoshpaye” on someone else’s self-proclaimed promised land.

Toa Walker

A very impressive philosophical post and a stark reality of things to come if Homo Domisticus continues to neglect Mother Earth.The troubles brewing throughout the lands for such a long time -long for humans-yet very short for Mother Nature is indicative of the demise you explain,where the cleansing action will sweep many away regardless of the Stuff that has been accumulated.Reading about civilizations past and present it’s mind -boggling to try and comprehend the fools that resorted to genocidal practices to introduce ,what was claimed to be the superior ideology and superior race ,therefore the Natives of the land must be destroyed in the name of the King or Queen or of Religion in the name of God .The reference with God is a contradiction in itself, also it is blasphemous-thou shall not take the name of the lord your god in vain-which W Bush did regularly,just to cite a recent example.So what should be done to right the ship ,should we slow down ,should we find an alternative for fossil fuels -actually that would bewilder the global chess players-or should we teach the Children not to follow in our footsteps towards the Cliff.

cheers

This Old Man didn’t mean to hurt the feelings of Radson or Gerard or anyone else here….or to pick particularly on Palestinians or Israelis.  The thing about “HOPE!”, though, is what a poor substitute it is for the clarity and maturity so vital to any beneficially effective understanding-of and response-to the terminal condition ALL the domesticated peoples are in now.

The entire purpose of “civilization” here is the destructive exploitation of our Mother Earth and all Her Native Children.  That two-legged peoples all over the world have been entrapped in one sub-system or another of this death-worshipping “dominance” paradigm, for upwards of ten thousand years now, doesn’t alter the facts of its actual effects on our Living Arrangement at all….or the over-riding fact that these have been without exception devastating to even the captive Humans who are so instrumental in its process.

Those who are ill-at-ease with what someone here calls the “intentionality of Nature” may have plenty of cause for their discomfort….in proportion to their own “individual” CONtribution to the general degradation.  Nevertheless, our Mother Earth is a Living Being with a capacity to act in defense of Her Life.  Human Beings, in fact, are a component in Her immune system, even though here in these latter days nearly all of them have been co-opted (through the mechanism of “civilization”) by a kind of retro-viral form of half-life intending to drain Her of Life to provide the forms of degenerate energy they subsist-on.

Those who doubt such a CONtraption, or such “global” wannabe parasites, could exist here without their knowing it might ask theirownselfs and one another’s just how aware the inmates of some Colorado feedlot are of the complicated apparatus set-up to turn them into hamburger, let-alone their being “individual”-ly acquainted with the board of directors of Burger King, Inc., for just one example among many.  Of course, a population of “individuals” is designed to be so wrapped-up in the smothering shroud of their very own “self,” that any suggestion they might be no more “precious” than any other brand of livestock in the “global” marketplace will almost certainly be highly offensive to them….for all the good their misdirected anger can do them.

Whether or not one likes its implications, the “flushing” of CONtamination from Living Forms is a natural and necessary occurrence….one we are seeing even now as our Mother Earth rids Herself of something actively threatening Her imminent demise.  The “problem” this may present for many among the subspecies homo domesticus is their unwillingness or inability to let-go of the detritus to which so many seem so incurably addicted….ironically often in the idiotic belief that all their “stuff” makes them “independent” of Natural processes.

Again, any number of Humans can recover the integrity of their Organic Function, and so be counted among Her Children whom she will not “waste.”  Some of us surviving free wild People call the Form of Humanity required for that recovery Tiyoshpaye.  Genuine Living Organic Community is about as close as it gets in English.  Try it, tame Sisters and Brothers.  You’re sure to like it.

HokaHey!

http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2009/10/why_are_jews_li.html

US govt: http://www.nbn.org.il/index.php

Do it right and it will self activate or the link is wrong in some way.

When an abused person isn’t treated with therapy they tend to become what had abused them and they will abuse others in the same way perpetuating the horrible cycle. I say that it can happen to a mass of people and the Israelis have had their share of abuse. Unfortunately many who are in power are of the same mind set and think that only torture and mass murder are the only way to get what they want. The bloody cycle of pain continues. A sad state of affairs. History doesn’t repeat itself exactly but it does rhyme in uncomfortable ways.

Harry Truman’s comment in a letter to Eleanor Roosevelt in 1947 states it best:-

  “Yet when they [the Jews] have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler
nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog.”

  Enough said!

JDmydticDJ

Chris Hedges article is rather to the point,he combines a certain frustration towards the nonchalance being displayed with regards to the Levant ,yet he also has hope.The suggestion of unilateral recognition through the UN for a Palestinian State is long overdue and should have been implemented decades ago ,in the least as a pressure tactic.The US has been riding the pine for too long and nothing ,or very little has come to fruition with regards to a peaceful resolution,whether it be ,One State,Two States or as it has become a State of Confusion.Israel claimed it’s State in 1948 and I can’t recall how many countries voted Yes ,but I do believe Russia was the first ,by allowing the PA to do the same the international community will see who is for and who is against.This will probably infuriate the Right Wingers in Israel and their going to fight this proposal tooth and nail ,because of the separation that will more than likely ensue. What I’m saying is give hope a chance ,instead of flushing and making it all go away.Perhaps my last post was too harsh towards
Tao ,especially since I respect the Native people ,but it wasn’t meant to be dirty.

Having undergone genocide of the Jewish people, the Israli government will do what they think it takes to protect their people and their homeland. They have taken the hard line with other people and countries to insure that they are never again the victims in the world order. What is sad to me is that they are implementing war against innocent civilians and children and seem to have no interest in peaceful solutions. I have seen footage of the results of the war on Gaza on Democracy Now.  I hope that the peacemakers in Israel can have influence in future policies. Brutality and death to innocents do not seem to me to be legacies honoring the death of so many Jews in the concentration camps of the World War II.

Zing asks:

“How much military aid?
How much non-military aid?
How much in loans?
How much in load guarantees?
How much?”

Oh, but Zing, there’s so much more.

How about the special US tax deductions for “charitable contributions” to Israel?
How much tax revenue is lost there, for “charitable gifts” to a wealthy country
that uses them to build and extend the very settlements and conduct the other
ethnic supremacist crimes that create so much hatred against the US and are
therefore directly injurious to our security, increasing our defense costs?

How much for the Iraq war, which could not have happened without the intense
pressure of the Israel lobby and whose real rationale had much more to do with
accomplishing Israel’s “Clean Break” plan than with any conceivable benefit to the
US, including the oil companies? The oil companies wanted access to Iraq’s oil,
yes; but the reason they didn’t have access to that oil (as they have access
to Saudi oil, for example) was because the Israel lobby demanded that the US
maintain in effect a permanent cold war against Iraq. It was because of the Israel
lobby that the only way for American companies to get access to Iraqi oil was for
the US to invade and occupy the country. So, after the war, the oil companies did
indeed move in, enabling Israel’s agents in Congress and the media, including
many “liberals”, to wipe their fingerprints off the fiasco and claim that it was a
“war for oil”, instead of the war for Israel that it most surely was, as will be the
planned war against Iran.

fwdpost:

You say there are a BILLION Arabs? You sure? Can you count? Where’d you get that number from???

Also, the Palestinians choose to call themselves Palestinians, so why should they be resettled in Jordan or any other Arab country? I understand there are almost as many Jews in NY as in Israel. OK with you if Israeli Jews were all shipped to NY?

This bs that , everytime somone disagrees that the Israeli theocracy is a “democracy”, they “hate Jews” needs to stop…I heard neo-con wierdo Norman Podhoretz (“Why Are Jews Liberal?”) this weekend, bitching and moaning about Obaam “
betraying Jews” when he has done evrything but turn over backwards for campaign donations from this voting bloc..its just crap snd anyone who cares about Jewish communities in the world will stop this garbage (its not doing much for our image, here in teh US< either..)
...http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2009/10/why_are_jews_li.html

Hedges was also at this book fair (Miami) sitting on a “liberal Dems” panel, being told that Nixon was a “liberal”...people hate Hedges because he tells them the truth.

Here is what Israeli govt is spending the money on that they dont have to spend on military, courtesy of the US govt:http://www.nbn.org.il/index.php

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But we cant afford to do any of that here..we have to remain death providers to the world.

Until the Israelis stop looking upon Palestinians as unter mensch there will be no chance at any kind of equitable peace. The ghetto a nation-state? What more can they lose but the ghetto itself? They still might if the long term plan is to remove them from the land once and for all.

Just once I would like to see a major newspaper list and explain funds we provide or assist in providing to the Israelis.

You know, break it down:

How much military aid?
How much non-military aid?
How much in loans?
How much in load guarantees?
How much?

Just once in a presidential election I would like to hear the question:

Do you think it’s appropriate to provide all these forms of aid to a country that refuses to stop building settlements in violation of international law?

It’s my tax dollars.
It’s your tax dollars.
Wouldn’t it be nice to have a say where they go?

Radson says

Tao Walker

“So according to your expertise there is no hope for the Palestinians except a flush down your ‘philosophies’ ,along with the Israeli tormentors,it’s almost like taking candy from a child ;or perhaps offering whiskey to your kind of people .You give no hope for a reasonable solution ,yet you criticize the PA for maintaining hope ,which you claim is a noble aspect of your tribe ,but you offer nothing but nonesence as a solution .Your
Fathers would not be to impressed with your blatant stupidity.”

Comment

I’m a strong supporter of Palestinians. I need to ask you though, do you at all feel dirty after you make a comment like that?

Beginning with the Renaissance, the era that spawned Capitalism and the philosphy of individualism, ships sailed out from Europe to explore, conquer, and enslave the world.

Colonialists practiced slavery and committed genocide. In their arrogance, and because of their falacious religious beliefs, racism was the undisputed practice of the times, and they killed, stole and persecuted at will. The abuses continued into modern times, and the animosities still exist.

If your going to claim some kind of moral authority regarding the Israeli Palestinian conflict, you personally, are not entitled to it.

Furthermore, TAO Walker’s observations may make more sense than we want to admit.

I just heard that Joe Lieberman is voicing his early opposition to a “Unilateral” declaration of Statehood by the Palestinians. Is anyone surprised?

Joe says that such a declaration would not have a positive impact on the peace process.

Meaning what? A declaration of Statehood by the Palestinians would lead to another bloody incursion into Palestinian territory by the Israeli’s?

Tao Walker

So according to your expertise there is no hope for the Palestinians except a flush down your ‘philosophies’ ,along with the Israeli tormentors,it’s almost like taking candy from a child ;or perhaps offering whiskey to your kind of people .You give no hope for a reasonable solution ,yet you criticize the PA for maintaining hope ,which you claim is a noble aspect of your tribe ,but you offer nothing but nonesence as a solution .Your
Fathers would not be to impressed with your blatant stupidity.

Truthdig would probably be doing a favor to public information in general if they would pick up an article occasionally from “The Other Israel,” published in Israel and containing information about Israelis and Palestinians working together on all kinds of projects to try to bring peace and understanding and keep the area from falling apart with hatred and resentment and give a more accurate picture of what is going on.  I believe the paper is published bi-monthly and probably has articles online.  Also information about Yesh G’vul, Israeli soldiers who refuse to fight in the Occupied Territories.  And Christian Peace Teams.  And Gush Shalom.  There are others, but this is an indication that there is a strong effort to prevent lines from solidifying into anti-fanatics and to see how some rational people are working together to solve problems.  Also, Tikkun Magazine coming out of Los Angeles.  Probably there are others I don’t know about.

I see the bought and paid for US senate poodles are in Israel jumping through rings for their campaign contributions and favorable press here in the U.S.

Just another dog and pony show.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5AF3JK20091116

By fwdpost, November 16 at 6:15 pm #

Your entire post has jew-haters out of context as jews are the haters here and in Israel. 

Israelis were involved in 9-11, the evidence is overwhelming and begs public outcry.

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/movers-and-shakers/

The author suggests going back to the 1967 borders well I completly disagree the borders should be reset to 1947 when Isreal first attacked Palestine. Even these borders were overly favorable to Isreal giving the minority the majority of the land and most af the aerable regions at that.

fwdpost,you can call me anti semetic and a KKK lover all you want all you succeed in is showing yourself to be ill informed and reactionary. There are many Israeli’s and Jews outside of Isreal who disaree with your stance.

Here is but one of them
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=4478&updaterx=2009-11-16+16:42:49

They tried this a couple of times in the past and it fizzled because they refused, among other things, to change their charter.  No nation, petitioning for statehood, can have any belligerency in their charter.

Isreal has the unequivocal military, economic and political support of the only super power in the world in addition to not so overt support of the EU.
Until that changes, Israel will keep runnig amock without any restraint whatsoever with the end result of the Palestinian people being pushed gradually but methodically into scattered isolated reservations or ghettos or driven out alltogether.
If I was a believer in God, I would have said only God will help the Palestinian people, but there is no God.

I enjoy Taowalker’s Asian absurdism, but hey:  “Having befouled the Earth with their (the ‘domesticated peoples’) ‘individual’ wretched excess, they are now being purged en masse from Her Living Arrangement” is a bit heavy on the intentionalism of Nature.
  It could also be said that these ‘domesticated peoples’ are suffering because they lack individuals who are willing to step up and restore the balance. It is always individuals, one by one, who begin movements of masses in any given direction. And that’s true of the ‘wild peoples’ too.  Either you act for the group or you don’t. It’s easy to step back and say:  “Let Nature take its course” and pretend that we know what Nature “intends.”   
  Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse,  “civilization” itself seems to be more or less indigenous.  The distinction between healthy and unhealthy enters when we choose to work with or work against Nature. She beats the drums and we dance—or not, as the case may be.

To fwdpost:  A real Jew-hater would avidly support the Likud and people like you, because ultimately Israel will self-destruct from greed, arrogance, imperial overreach, and the internal decay that is inevitably caused from conducting a decades-long brutal occupation of another people.  Those who are proposing reasonable solutions—such as two-states for two people—offer the only hope Israel has.  The more that people like you resist a peaceful outcome, the deeper Israel’s hole becomes.  I’m sure Hamas is applauding your words…you’re doing their work for them.

Sure, the Palestinians could declare independence.  But then Israel would give them a huge beat down when they try to implement.

The U.S. would shrug it’s shoulders but not explicitly interfere.

Then what?

Mr. Hedges…

The next time you feel inspire to write bombastic harangue such as this kindly write it on Scot Tissue——it will be less irritating to the sphincter muscle of the recipient!

The jew haters are out in force. There are a billion Arabs, including some of the richest nations in the world. If they care about the Palestinians they would help them. It is not the job of Israel to buy new cars for terrorists who try to murder children.
The homeland is Jordan. Read history. Jordan.
It is scary when the liberals and the KKK pigs get together on a hate the jews campaign. Disgusting.
Next, we’ll hear about the jews who were the ones who really conceived 911. Oh, wait, that’s already been charged by the Arab loving hatemongers.

Cut off all US military aid to the Israelis until they stop building settlements.

So how is it really any better for the Palestinians to go down the drain of “history” as a “nation-state,” than it will be anyhow in their current CONdition as refugees in their own “homeland”?  Either way, their Shemite brothers/persecutors will still be swirling into oblivion right next to them.

The domesticated peoples, lacking any true perspective on their common predicament, have yet to notice the ‘plug’ has been pulled on the “civilization” in which they’re entrapped, and that the maelstrom enveloping them is a kind of natural mega-phenomenon over which there is no ideological/institutional/electro-mechanical CONtrol….not unlike the flushing of a toilet once the chain is pulled.  Having befouled the Earth with their “individual” wretched excess, they are now being purged en masse from Her Living Arrangement.

How could it be otherwise?  Well, except for those who walk The Tiyoshpaye Way, that is.

HokaHey!

The Palestinians haven’t anything else and if they can get UN recognition, which the USA, Columbia, Poland, & Israel will veto, [it only takes one to do that,] they will remain unofficially recognized like Somaliland (in the north of Somolia since 1991.)

It won’t play into Israel’s hands because the Palestinians will never become part of Israel. They aren’t Jews and in Israel, Jews are the “Aryans” of Israel. So apartied is the way of it and has been for 40 years.

I order to change one of the things that must be done is to end the billions given to Israel which funds their continuing slow burn war to extirpate all non-Jews from their “Holy, JHVH given land.” To do that Israel’s will have to put into office those who are not such ardent theocratic hyper-nationalists. That would be like putting into office people like Dennis Kucininch instead of those like Hukabee & Obama who continue the disasterous trend we are in. Do any of you see that happening in the next 50 years?

I believe that secular nationalist Palestinians should take three steps:

1. Declare independence, as Mr. hedges suggests.  Ignore the US veto—what’s more important will be the 150+ states who will acknowledge Palestine’s independence. But also declare that you are ready to enter immediate negotiations over the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the new state of Palestine.

2. Begin a campaign for the release of Marwan Barghouti, who is serving a life term in an Israeli prison for the crime of defending his homeland.  Barghouti is Hamas’s nightmare: a popular, powerful and credible secular nationalist.  He also is Israel’s nightmare for the same reason, which is why they arrested him in the first place.

3. This is the important step: Declare that if Israeli forces are not withdrawn by the end of 2010, Palestinians will demand the creation of one state on the land west of the Jordan River, and will petition the UN for recognition of one state.

The Arab World needs to get on board by re-iterating the Saudi offer of 2002 for permanent peace.

At the end of the day, it always has been the US and Israel vs. the world, but with our power declining and Israel becoming increasingly fascist in nature, those days are numbered.

you got that right, thebeerdoctor

“Mahmoud Abbas, the compliant and discredited president of the Palestinian Authority, who has announced he will not run for another term, has uncharacteristically blasted Israel for deceiving the Palestinians”…the very discredited and very compliant EX-president of the PA that is! Abbas’s term of office officially expired earlier this year, he took office in January ’05 and the Palestinian Election Laws of ’05 and ’07 stipulate a term of four years before new elections. Abbas hasn’t the legal or moral standing to be acting on behalf of the Palestinian population. “The disarray within the Palestinian Authority has led to the cancellation of the Palestinian elections in January, although the elections were already in jeopardy. The militant group Hamas, which took over Gaza in 2007 after thwarting a coup attempt led by Abbas’ Fatah party”…and after winning free and fair elections the year before in January ’06. Hamas is the legal, democratically-elected government of Palestine. “The chief Palestinian negotiator, Saeb Erekat”…was the chief PA negotiator, not appointed by the current Hamas government. “Abbas’ time in office has been marked by repeated and humiliating concessions to Israel”…just as it was intended to do. “Israel has shown its…” dictatorialness “by ignoring Abbas’ protests for a halt on settlements and dismissing his calls for negotiations.” “It is hard to imagine any Palestinian leader”...with less credibility to declare an independent state. ““When he declares independence, Abbas should call upon the Jews living in the state of Palestine to preserve the peace and to do their part in building up the new country”….and he will have even less influence with these illegal-settler Jewish extremists than he does with his own population, which is to say none whatsoever. Abbas has no constituency on either side, except for a few quixotic journalists and the apparatchiks on the payroll in the venal PA. Of course it’s glaringly true that “the Israelis have orchestrated acute misery and poverty in the Palestinian territories over the past two decades in an effort to subdue and ethnically cleanse…” and that “the refusal by the Obama administration and nearly every member of the U.S. Congress to defend the rule of law and basic human rights for the Palestinians exposes our hypocrisy.” But to perpetuate the absurd notion that a hapless quisling like Abbas could unilaterally declare and implement an independent state is absolutely ludicrous. Unlike the craven Abbas and the decadent PA, Hamas has stood fast in defending the cause of Palestine and despite endless Israeli and American terrorism against them, Hamas has defiantly refused to buckle. The Hezbollah heroes showed how to deal with Israel in ending the occupation of southern Lebanon. “The Israelis have ensured that from now on the Palestinians will fall or rise on their own.” No one knows that better than the gallant Hamas.

So what else is new?

  Could the US inadverdantly (?) or is a more appropriate observation be that US
policy is actually targeting Muslims and Arabs to the point of encouraging the
socalled Jihad for the destruction of Israel?

Or is US policy still operating under the proposals made by Netanyahu, Perle, Feith
and a number of American Likudniks under the Zionists dream of:-
  .“A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm” or the breaking up of
all Muslim countries into little states that Israel/US can easely control?

The decades of nonsense about negotiations, including the lame response that “continued settlements are not helpful” on the part of the bought off U.S. State Department, has led to this. It is Israel that is the ultimate ganav here, or perhaps that should be “gaunef”, enabled by their dutch Uncle Sam’s unlimited purse. A dishonest negotiator time and again, but perhaps that was the goal all along: continuous conflict ensures continuous funding for the military state.

U.S. aid to Israel subsidizes Israel’s Socialized Medicine benefits to it’s citizens WHICH INCLUDES CHOCOLATE LOTION MASSAGES. The same Congress which votes to subsidize Israel’s subsidized medicine tell Americans to EAT POO AND DIE AMERICANS, NO HEALTH CARE IS BETTER than ANY/ALL GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE, well except for the government provided health care for the Congress at Bethesda Naval hospital for instance. Congratulation to the Israeli government for providing services to its citizens.

Right on Mr. Hedges!!!! 

Might I suggest that you hire a food taster from now on…  If you offer me health insurance I’ll take the job…