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Posted on Oct 28, 2009
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By Robert Scheer

Is there a more hypocritical figure in American politics than Joe Lieberman? The Connecticut senator declared Tuesday that he would support a filibuster of any health care reform bill that has a public option—even the version with the “trigger” compromise accepted by Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe—because it might cost money.

“I think that a lot of people may think that the public option is free,” said Lieberman, one of the Senate’s big spenders, in a suddenly frugal mood. “It’s not. It’s going to cost the taxpayers and people that have health insurance now, and if it doesn’t, it’s going to add terribly to our national debt.”

This from a senator who, as much as anyone, helped run up the national debt since 9/11 by pushing to raise the military budget to its highest level since World War II. It is a budget inflated by enormous expenditures on high-tech weaponry irrelevant to combating terror, such as the $2-billion-a-piece submarines—produced in his home state of Connecticut—that he claimed were needed to combat al-Qaida, a landlocked enemy holed up in caves. The same week that he and others in Congress passed a $680-billion defense bill larded with pork of the sort he has always supported, Lieberman is worried about the impact of a very limited public option on the debt.

Lieberman, whose state is also home to insurance companies that are opposed to any consumer-friendly medical coverage alternative, boldly stated that his opposition to even the most limited version of a public option should not be surprising: “I think my colleagues know for a long time that I’ve been opposed to a government-created, government-run insurance company.”  Perhaps during his filibuster to prevent a vote on the public option Lieberman can square that position with his longtime support of the massive government–run insurance programs Medicare and Social Security. 

Maybe he can also take that time to justify his strong support for the government bailout of troubled banking and insurance companies that has tripled the federal deficit this year to $1.4 trillion. Is AIG not now a “government-run insurance company,” and doesn’t the $185 billion of taxpayer money tossed at that sorry enterprise add up to more than twice the yearly cost of the health reform package? And that’s without considering the trillions of tax dollars put into play to shore up Citigroup, Bank of America, GM, Chrysler and those other suddenly socialized sectors of American corporate life.

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If a scant public choice in health care is so threatening to our way of life, because health care alone must be kept a pristine captive of the most destructive impulses of an unbridled free market, then why not privatize Medicare as well as the publicly financed health care programs for government workers—including those in Congress like Lieberman, veterans and the active military? And while we’re at it, why not revive that Republican fantasy, popular in their ranks just a few years ago, of privatizing Social Security by turning the most effective government program over to the vagaries of the stock market?

I do continue to begrudgingly respect the consistency, if not the wisdom, of libertarians like Ron Paul who oppose all of this big-government intrusion into the economy. At least their belief in the efficiency of the free market, affirmed in opposition to the banking bailout, is not compromised by a willingness to throw trillions in taxpayer dollars into backing the riskiest of corporate bets. But it is not possible to feel anything but loathing for those like Lieberman who vote for every big government program, no matter how wasteful, in support of big business, but draw the line at a program designed to cut medical costs for the ordinary citizens they have been sworn to serve.

Lieberman’s threat to thwart a vote on sorely needed health care legislation, complete with a public option that a majority of Americans have consistently supported, should spell the end of his connection with the Democratic caucus. It should also cost him the committee chairmanship he was granted in order to guarantee the 60 votes needed to prevent a filibuster. But a filibuster, which would expose Lieberman and the others as irresponsible wreckers of essential reform, is not the worst outcome. The surrender by the Democratic leadership to this blackmail by the party’s disgraced former vice presidential candidate would be a blow from which the party would not deserve to recover.

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By ardee, October 28, 2009 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment

As well as dozens of other democrats.

I am certain lichen simply forgot to add…and Republicans too…...didnt you?

NYCartist, October 28 at 12:07 pm #

ardee:I like your comment.

Thanks for saying so.

SteelersSteve, October 28 at 5:25 pm #

I do not understand why if you are a Democrat you are not allowed to speak freely or have independent opinions on issues of the day.

Lieberman is not a democrat. Your remark is particularly humorous considering that all republicans speak with one voice these days.

If you do not toe the line you get condemned and vilified, such as we see above with Senator Joe Lieberman.

He is not supposed to act upon and speak out for what he believes in, I guess, instead he is supposed to toe the leftist line.

What he does is earn the five million in campaign contributions he has received from the Health Care Industry. What he also does is ignore his own constituents who , in a large majority, want single payer care. What he also does is distort the fact that single payer health care will be less expensive that our current model.

What you do is simply put your own ideology before common sense or the good of the nation. There are 36 other nations who have various forms of universal health care, none of them are “socialist” and none of their citizens think it a bad idea. But thanks ever so much for participating.

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By lichen, October 28, 2009 at 3:15 pm Link to this comment

“Is there a more hypocritical figure in American politics than Joe Lieberman?”

Corporatist war criminal Obama comes to mind, certainly.  As well as dozens of other democrats.

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By Ray P., October 28, 2009 at 3:14 pm Link to this comment
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If there should be a resurgence of the Repubs in 2010 and 2012, one need look no further than the mollycoddling of Joe Liebermann by the Democratic leadership to understand why. It boggles the mind to see this Judas Ischariot get away with repeated treason and duplicity. And with impunity. What a farce the Democratic Party has become.

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By schpulke, October 28, 2009 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment
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The Democrats are getting what they deserve.
Bill, Hill, Obama, etc. supported this piece of drek over someone in their own party and now they’re stabbed in the back by him.
Very funny.

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By Daniel, October 28, 2009 at 2:39 pm Link to this comment

I realize that calling a person names does not produce an iota of progress, but with some people, like Lieberman, it is soooooo therapeutic,

Lieberman is a PIG.

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By SteelersSteve, October 28, 2009 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment

I do not understand why if you are a Democrat you are not allowed to speak freely or have independent opinions on issues of the day.

If you do not toe the line you get condemned and vilified, such as we see above with Senator Joe Lieberman.

He is not supposed to act upon and speak out for what he believes in, I guess, instead he is supposed to toe the leftist line.

I would think it would be the opposite, that if he has certain opinions and compromised them to accomodate leftist orthodoxy, that would be wrong. But apparently not.

God forbid he stand up against getting government further involved in health care - the panacea being promoted by the left which they think will make things better but will degrade our health care. You would think it would be better to find ways to assist people who need help purchasing health care, and making market oriented reforms to insurance which would lower the costs, instead of starting down a path which will lead to government run health care….but no

....those who oppose it are condemned

....and those who promote it are not the ones who will have to explain why people will be waiting a long time for 2nd level testing like they do in Canada now…..

....instead of just assisting people who need help and making market oriented reforms to lower the costs and keeping a system where people do not have to wait forever for 2nd level testing.

And God forbid Sen. Lieberman stand up for a strong national defense. We are supposed to capitulate to our enemies instead of fighting terror, apparently.

It seems Sen. Lieberman is right and Robert Scheer, et. al, are wrong.

How can one tell this? Easy….look across the street from St. Paul’s Chapel….you will see there is nothing there. Many of the people that worked in 1 and 2 World Trade Center do not need health care now, the point is moot.

But Robert Scheer and others insist Sen. Lieberman is wrong for saying we should fight terrorism and they insist that we should have socialist health care.

I guess if Robert Scheer and others get their way then people will temporarily have socialist health care, until they are killed in the next terror attack.

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By gerard, October 28, 2009 at 2:23 pm Link to this comment

What is it about our system that breeds betrayals like this?  Obviously the same traits that bring on our worst problems—that is, money and the ideology of “free enterprise” that the money supports.  Money—the more, the better.  Free—you are free to choose evil, and as long as you don’t get arrested, it’s okay.  Enterprise—gumption, business acumen, do-it-yourself, first come, first served, me-first, go-getter, ambitious, literally “get in and grab.”
  Add to those an unknown number of centuries of bargaining and cheating and several centuries of “individualism” and notions of “supremacy” and “prejudice.” A pretty toxic mix and politics makes people particularly susceptible.

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By remoran, October 28, 2009 at 2:10 pm Link to this comment

Being a CT resident, I simply cringe at having this weasel as my senator. He is cordially detested by a great majority of us citizens and, no doubt. will never be reelected in any way, shape or form. He, like so many pols, are hypocrites, liars and bloviators of the highest order. Sanctimonious Joe, a practicing hack who, as
gwazdos as so eloquently states, THIS MAN HAS NO HONOR AND MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE SENATE ASAP. BOY THIS GUY RAISES MY BLOOD PRESSURE!

Right on. smile

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By Kevin Schmidt, October 28, 2009 at 2:01 pm Link to this comment
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The voters of Connecticut have the Constitutional right to summarily remove Lieberman from office.

All they have to do is peaceably assemble outside of his CT office and refuse to leave until Joe agrees to address their grievances, and then leave office when they are not satisfied with his two-faced answers.

But you can’t blame Lieberman for acting the way he does, because he has not been held accountable for his actions. If WE THE PEOPLE weren’t so lazy and didn’t act like brainless sheeple, this country would not be fighting two very expensive illegal wars, or suffering in another Republican inspired Great Depression 2.0.

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By Blackspeare, October 28, 2009 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment

Lieberman is not the only moderately conservative independent to oppose the public option he just made it vocal.  It is well known that any appearance of a public option is the final act is the death knell for the health care insurance industry and the medical profession.  It may take time, but eventually the public option/single payer system will become dominant.

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By WriterOnTheStorm, October 28, 2009 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment

Quid pro quo. Ask yourself, what’s the senator’s angle? He’s never missed an
opportunity to bloat his importance. He’s never passed a chance to blackmail
either political party. Worse, his scheme to hold the public option hostage will
probably work, and he will emerge with some crap legislation he wants, and an
even more grandiose idea of himself.

Connecticut, don’t bring more shame upon your state. Do the country a good turn
and deliver us from this traitorous scut. And I’ll look forward to the the day when I
can once again watch Droopy cartoons without feeling nauseous.

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By Jon, October 28, 2009 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment
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Alen Specter, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi.

But, the real issue is: Congress is not representing American citizens.  Congress represents corporate and banking power.  This subverts the entire American system, and the Constitution. It puts corporations and banks in control of the country, not American citizens.

Unless, until we as citizens rise up and get control back, we will continue to be punked and cheated and made unemployed by runaway corporate and banking power.  We have the real power, but we’ve let Congress go rogue.  We must take the country back from corporations and banks.  We’re looking a another revolution, who knows when it will happen.  Until then, we will continue to be hollowed out as a country, rendered as a third world failed state by the banks and corporations with support by the Congress.

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By mandinka, October 28, 2009 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment

Lets see medicare and medicaid deny more procedures than private insurance, private insurance profits are 2% one of the lowest returns of any business and bark, pelosi and reid think that gov’t can do it better?? More waste, more dollars spent yet too many folks that the good fairy will will find the $$ to pay for healthcare. All the while tort reform the largest driver of healthcare costs remains off the table.
Wonder when the adults will meet and have an honest bill??

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By Jim, October 28, 2009 at 1:12 pm Link to this comment
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As Ron Kuby said this is ” the senator from Israel.”

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By Thong-girl, October 28, 2009 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

The entire Senate, it has been demonstrated, is up for sale, along with the entire justice department apparently.  Most of them, will do anything for money.  Lieberman is not about money, though I doubt he’d turn it down.  Leiberman is about Israel only and he will not do anything, as thebeerdoctor mentions, that will upset their branch of our government, known as AIPAC.  Until Americans are willing to do something about our “Israeli problem” we will continue to send our own children to their deaths for their right to kill children and confiscate other’s land.

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By Vicki Madrid, October 28, 2009 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment
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Markos Molitas in Daily Kos wrote about how when his new baby came, his son
resented the attention she was getting and reverted to soiling his pants and other
“get even” activties.  He likened Libermann’s latest stunt as he’s missing attention
and has decided this would be a good attention getter!  And, like a child, he
doesn’t care if it’s good attention or if it’s bad attention.  Lots of people are calling
and leaving him messages about him being a traitor to the Democratic Party and
the American people.  Perhaps someone will knock some sense into his fat head
and he’ll get back to doing the people’s business.  I’ll bet if he’s running again in
2012, he’s going to find out not even his own party “Lieberman for Lieberman”
will kick him out of his cushey seat.

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By Thong-girl, October 28, 2009 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment

Arianna Huffington is a bigger hypocrite than Lieberman and Scheer has the audacity to claim to cover this story without a word about Israel?  David Ben-Gurion said it years ago, Bob may be senile a bit, but he told us that when a Jew refers to his “country” he is talking about Israel, not the U.S.A. and Bog and Arrianna, his lover?, are bigger hypocrites for not even mentioning it.  You simply cannot discuss this guy or the wars or the banks or any real problem, without placing Israel somewhere in it.  To omit it, is to lie.

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By Dave Schwab, October 28, 2009 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

Forget about Joe Lieberman for a minute.

Medicare for all, also known as single payer healthcare, is favored by a majority of Americans.

How can we convince Congress to enact what the people want?

Tell your members of Congress that unless they support Medicare for all, you won’t support them.

Take the Medicare For All Pledge today:

http://bit.ly/medicareforallpledge

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By NYCartist, October 28, 2009 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

Mary Ann McNeeley,
  There’s lots of Jewish dictionaries online.  I think pasgudniak (pick your own spelling) might be some variety of “jerk”.  There’s plenty of Jew baiting on here, in the alleged form of antizionism.

    Lieberman is a putz, as we say in NYC.  He promised his mother he’d not become a Republican in her lifetime. Is she still alive?

    HuffPo’s Stein says the White House is not going to do anything to Lieberman.  I think he’s not alone in being a very Blue Dog….

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By SteveL, October 28, 2009 at 12:32 pm Link to this comment

Want Lieberman under control?  Do just what Bush did.  Zero out the budget for Electric Boat (Submarine works) in Connecticut.  This is Lieberman’s pet pork project.  He will be eating out of anyone’s hand the mere mention of this.

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By prole, October 28, 2009 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment

Once again Scheer comes to the defense of the status quo while feigning indignation. Scheer continues to “begrudgingly respect the consistency, if not the wisdom, of libertarians like Ron Paul who oppose all of this big-government intrusion into the economy” - which as much as the repellent Lieberman’s craven corporate cronyism, “draw[s] the line at a program designed to cut medical costs for the ordinary citizens they have been sworn to serve.” So are we really interested in a universal single-payer plan here? If so, Paul’s “consistency” is as detrimental to it as Lieberman’s “hypocrisy”? At this point in his sordid political career, it shouldn’t even be necessary to any longer belabor the loathsomeness of an irredeemable lout like Lieberman, it’s so well established and the widespread vituperation of him is so richly deserved, it’s simply redundant.  But to “respect the consistency, if not the wisdom, of libertarians like Ron Paul” is a little harder to accept from anyone who is truly in favor of a single-payer public plan. Such “respect” for this kind of “wisdom” would indeed lead to privatizing “Medicare as well as the publicly financed health care programs for government workers…..[and] privatizing Social Security by turning the most effective government program over to the vagaries of the stock market” …as Paul and his pals would do. So what is at issue here, is it Lieberman’s “hypocrisy” – which when you look at his innumerable other repellent traits seems rather insignificant – or is it his opposition to the public plan? Would Lieberman, despite all the many other obvious objections to him, be somehow more redolent, if he opposed social programs as “consistently” as Paul does? In fact, all the other objections to Lieberman’s dreadful record in public office over the years, should have long since “spell[ed] the end of his connection with the Democratic caucus.” The fact that it hasn’t probably says as much about the Democratic caucus as it does about the slimy Lieberman. Is it at all really necessary anymore to “expose Lieberman and the others as irresponsible wreckers of essential reform.” Hasn’t that been shown too often in the past already on a host of issues across the board from foreign affairs to domestic? But should Ron Paul be invited then to take his place in the Democratic caucus because of his “wisdom” and “consistency”? Making the putrid Lieberman the alibi for a “Democratic leadership” that is already rife with widespread hypocrisy and worse is unnecessary – and hypocritical - the party doesn’t deserve to recover with or without this s.o.b. It’s more likley the Democratic “leadership” is using Lieberman to thwart a public plan they themselves really don’t want in the first place, while taking credit with their political base for appearing to try.  He’s only one of the worst of a bad bunch, and is there chiefly to make the others look good in comparison. It’s the system, stupid!

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By rondo, October 28, 2009 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment

The Senator is correct in his opposition.  He is one of the only Senators listening to his constituents.

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By Psy333che, October 28, 2009 at 11:53 am Link to this comment

SavetheTenth
Why ?? Again the same thing over and over like a machine
You keep repeating without any real voice….
like the machine repeating the same message for whatever group you are a mouth piece for
  I wonder…
Where were you when the Republicans were giving themselves tax breaks ??
You were not complaining about that were you ???

Bush took a surplus and spent the coffers of our surplus to all his friends including Halliburton and where were you then?? Not a word…

I may have heard you then but I do not listen to that repeated garble anymore
It is always seems to be an attempt to take the spot light off of the issue ...Like Here
When the issue is on Healthcare
Your issue is to try to take away and against the humane issue ...
Something that has more value with corporations and greed that rings clear as your message

To me you are just a mouth piece spewing their cold message over and over.. without any feeling

The real issue is about The People and their right to have healthcare…despite all the attempts and bribes from the insurance Companies, Republicans, lobbyists..etc and of course the people like you….

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By Anarcissie, October 28, 2009 at 11:48 am Link to this comment

It seems to me that enticing the Republicans and the abominable Lieberman into filibustering a bill which most people seemed to want would be a tremendous gift to the Democratic Party.  Regardless of whether the filibuster failed or succeeded, I think it would make the Democrats’ electoral fortune for 2010 and even 2012.

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By cat, October 28, 2009 at 11:45 am Link to this comment
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Senator Joe LIE berman thinks his seat is safe and he can make or fake moves like this on the American People. But he is wrong believe me if a robust public option does not pass the people will be out in droves to vote against him. Barack Obama saved him once from our wrath and restored to him his position he turn his other cheek but we the American people will not do the same. for we see where it has gotten Obama (A Traitor in the mist) likewise even if LIEberman votes for the public Option and it does not pass we will still come out in droves against him. likewise with all the Republicans and Democrats in office be aware all your seats are in jeopardy and then who is left we will impose term limits on your seats 8 years as such as with the President and you will no longer have the power to rule and impose your unjust laws over us. because you sold us out to the big corporations of insurance and financial institutes who are pilfriging every penny they can from our pockets and now we must fight for our rights again.

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By velvel in decatur, October 28, 2009 at 11:27 am Link to this comment
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Hmmmm.
Who is more of a hypocrite, Lieberman or Specter?
Who remembers when there were Democrats who became Republicans and we all felt betrayed even though we knew that the changers were really good riddance to bad garbage?
I suppose that no one remembers Jacob Javitz, either.
Walking in lockstep with Harry and Nancy and the President is as bad as walking in lockstep with deLay, Frist, and 43. 
I just wish that they would make up their minds and stop changing the names of things, from “public option” to “HKLY#&^$*^ option,” and so forth.
Why is anyone surprised that there are some folk who are unhappy as the dollar gets more and more diluted and the pols and the networks pretend that it is not happening?

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By berniem, October 28, 2009 at 11:05 am Link to this comment

The only voters more stupid than those of Conn. have to be those of Oklahoma( ok, Texas too for “Baby Huey” Cornyn). Inhofe & Coburn from the same state bespeaks mightily of the failures of the American educational system(even school prayer & reciting the pledge didn’t help). I think(hope) that the good citzens of Conn. keep Joey-boy around because he reminds them of Howdy Doody. I know that back in ‘00 I voted for Nader, not because of Gore so much as my strong aversion to Lieberman. There he was running for VP while staying in the race for his Senate seat. Talk about instilling confidence! They say that ol’ Joe’s a devout guy; but doesn’t he know the part vanity, pride, and covetiveness?

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By ROSS, October 28, 2009 at 10:55 am Link to this comment
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Like any prostitute, he his on sale to he highest bidder

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By tman, October 28, 2009 at 10:54 am Link to this comment

Perhaps a bounty for his head?

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By Jolimont, October 28, 2009 at 10:22 am Link to this comment

Is there something wrong with Connecticut residents
(Dems especially) that they keep voting this guy into
office? Is it airborne?

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By Mary Ann McNeely, October 28, 2009 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

I’m Catholic but my boyfriend is Jewish.  He just read the article and is standing behind me, ranting and raving at the computer screen, some of it in Yiddish. What is a paskudnyak?  He won’t tell me.

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By omygodnotagain, October 28, 2009 at 9:35 am Link to this comment

This is pay back to the American people for not bowing to his Zionist wishes and attacking Iran. Rather than help the people of this country he would spend it killing the people of another, for the greater glory of Israel. This has made me want to speak out even more vociferiously against that Rogue State in the ME and the straw men and women in our Congress

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By Walter J. Kelly IV, October 28, 2009 at 9:34 am Link to this comment
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This would have been even better if the author, in addition to
expressing the requisite outrage, had come up with a rationale
which would have explained Joe’s thinking. Joe must justify this
somehow. I have no clue.

In Virginia, both Warner and Webb say they are waiting to see
what comes out of committee.  What are these people thinking?

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By NYCartist, October 28, 2009 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

ardee:I like your comment.

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By laura t., October 28, 2009 at 9:05 am Link to this comment
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what an asshole he is… ugh.

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By LostHills, October 28, 2009 at 8:54 am Link to this comment

He’s like a character in a Shakesperean tragedy. Someone send him a real knife so he can end this thing properly….

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By thebeerdoctor, October 28, 2009 at 8:51 am Link to this comment

Scheer asks: “Is there a more hypocritical figure in American politics than Joe Lieberman?” Perhaps a more important question should be why did Senator Obama go out of his way to campaign for Lieberman, after Ned Lamont had taken the democratiuc nomination away from him in the primary? Face it: Obama went out of his way to make sure this “scum” (as many here refer to him) stay at the top of the stinking pond. If that is not proof that Obama has always been a shill for the Zionist agenda, I do not know what is.
Back in 2006, when Lieberman was being challenged by Ned Lamont, (who defeated him in the Connecticut democratic primary), Senator Obama said this, at the Connecticut Democrats annual dinner:
“The fact of the matter is, I know some in the party have differences with Joe. I’m going to go ahead and say it. I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate, so he can continue to serve on our behalf.”

I wonder whose behalf the former Senator, now President of the United States was referring to? AIPAC perhaps? The Obama people can complain about Lieberman’s betrayals, but it is their leader himself, who worked to keep this infested “independent” frog on his Washington lily pad.

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By socalcde, October 28, 2009 at 8:51 am Link to this comment

There will always be sleazy and opportunistic people in the world who go through their lives striving for money and power without regard for anybody or anything, but the bottom line for me regarding Leiberman is; “What is wrong with the people of Connecticut that they keep electing this horrible person as their representative?.”

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By Ouroborus, October 28, 2009 at 8:47 am Link to this comment

They put down rabid dogs, don’t they?

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By J. Joerger, October 28, 2009 at 8:38 am Link to this comment
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Hi,
The CN senator is doing what a lot of the politicians refuse to do! Not swallow hook, line and sinker what the party says! The government can’t run anything and make it work without fraud,bribes, and personal gain. They have no business in the health care business.  The Medi’s are great and everyone having them loves them because someone else is paying for it.  We have safety nets in place and saying someone doesn’t have insurance is a cop out. Someone has to pay the premiums they just don’t happen!  Taxpayers already are just paying the costs of those needing medical attention. Everyone wants something for nothing.  At least the CN senator is saying NO to future inefficient operations. Now, guidelines should be written for the private sector to work within.  The Obambi closed door sessions shouldn’t be dealing with the drug companies to make their millions. Who else are the deals with?  Maybe the CN senator and a few others really know!  (Since the writing in the bill is what counts, the rest is smoke—and look what the stimulus package has done—deeper in debt and more government takeovers—-looks to be a little Marxist—and no one read that bill!)
Thank You,
Joe

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By Shift, October 28, 2009 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

Lieberman has a history.  He terminated recognition of two Native American Tribes in Connecticut that had recognition for over two hundred years.  Now he wants to terminate health care reform.  Being a Jew, one would think that termination would be anathema.  Not so for Lieberman, he is a terminator.

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By Magginkat, October 28, 2009 at 8:11 am Link to this comment

Thank you Mr. Scheer for writing this in a way I could never express because mine would be filled with *$^%^%&^*&$ !  LIEberman is one disgusting excuse for a human being.  If there was any justice this worm would be bankrupt & homeless overnight!  There is no one more deserving of such a fate.  I think this SOB exceeds even my disgust for Bush and is damn close to exceeding the desire to vomit when I see Cheney’s vile name.
Heaven help this country if we don’t rid ourselves of such garbage as Lieberman.

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By Bob Fay, October 28, 2009 at 8:11 am Link to this comment
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I am a Canadian with a national healthcare plan. What I see don’t see in your debate on reform in the US is the fact that a lot of profit is generated by insurance and healthcare management companies on top of a lot of additional costs from redundant administration and excessive executive compensation. A “one payor system” like we have in Canada as well as other countries, in addition to in effect putting profits into healthcare itself provides a number of benefits including access for all to basic healthcare, lower overhead costs, better control over fraud, more productive doctors and healthcare practioners (less time spent on administrative paperwork for multiple payors with different systems), virtual elimination of personal bankruptcy and economic hardship from catastrophic healthcare costs much of which comes from denial of private coverage that individuals thought they had insured themselves for, better and more consistent coverage, an ability of one payor to negotiate better costs with suppliers.
In addition the insured do pay for the uninsured as providers have to be compensated for those that don’t pay or can’t pay - for example ambulance trips have to cover costs of both those that pay and those who don’t - ambuulance providers don’t have resources to chase down $300-400 bills from the 20% of people who don’t or can’t pay so those that do pay, pay more than they would.
I believe your private companies do not want a public option because they don’t want people who ARE insured to realize how much extra they are paying to cover multiplicity of companies, the redundant overhead, the executive compensation and the profits that are generated. I belive this is the main reason that Mr. Lieberman has taken the position he has for his voting constituents (he is an ELECTED official from Connecticut) but maybe he should be trying to get a significant part of the operations of that “public option” in that state to compensate for the any dislocation.
In Canada many of us buy or have through our employers additional private insurance coverage for things like drugs, various therapies, etc. that are not covered by our national program but everyone has basic coverage and no one is denied coverage when ill. People don’t have to wait until they are sick enough to go to an emergency room which is the often used expensive option that uninsured people have to use in the US.
Bottom line - like Canada, the US is wealthy enough to provide all of its citizens with healthcare coverage - and I believe everyone will benefit from the public option
In any case if there is no healthcare reform,in the US, thank you from Canada for providing companies especially the big labour and small businesses with a competitive advantage that will only get much better in the future as healthcare costs continue to rise in the US and the population ages, albeit probably not as gracefully as in the past.

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By socrates2, October 28, 2009 at 7:58 am Link to this comment
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By his votes Lieberman demonstrates the obvious:
He loves corporate “persons” who pay for his campaigns.
He despises the human beings whose votes he needs…
Joe belongs to an old, old profession indeed.

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By sciencehighway, October 28, 2009 at 7:54 am Link to this comment

RE: Thong-Girl: “Connecticut has a bounty of other lover of only Israel.  Until it is said publicly and until we demand they leave this country, well we will soon be answering to them about everything.”

I agree with everything said in both Mr. Scheer’s article and the supporting comments. I also note that there’s nothing new here; Lieberman’s slimy status has been well-documented. This is just the latest, entirely-predictable iteration, and may it somehow also be his last.

What’s disturbingly new here is a hopefully-unintended suggestion that’s also tragically ancient. Thong-Girl, you aren’t really advocating that Jews should be deported, are you? ‘Cause if you are, I’m afraid we’ve heard that rallying cry before too.

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By christian96, October 28, 2009 at 7:52 am Link to this comment

Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut.  I noticed
Lieberman begins with “LIE.”  Wonder if the Honorable
Senator has lied while in office?  Wonder how he got
the money to be elected?  Wonder if there are any
insurance companies in Connecticut? Wonder if the
Honorable Senator realizes he could go a long way
towards balancing the buget if he would reduce the
Pentagon’s budget by 50%?  Boy I sure do “wonder”
a lot!  Maybe the title of Michael Moore’s next
movie should be “WONDERING.” Excuse me, I am going
to go watch The Price Is Right.  Wonder if the
PRICE IS RIGHT for the Honorable Senator Joe
LIEberman?

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By roger muldavin, October 28, 2009 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
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Scheer cuts to the quick,
poetry in writing, inviting,
logic holds together more,
Lieberman serves like others,
rhetoric designed to campaign,
gets the office, stays in $network$.

How can “People Power” last an hour?
Feeds on wealth, stealth, and mental health,
for fear not Anxiety, now number one disorder,
“science” slowly gained by the many soon switches,
inherent the earths, not shot and thrown into the ditch.
time will be on the side of all of us who press the key daily.

Like a wave crossing the Earth’s surface, crust and waters,
Earth’s Magnetic Fields do gather Sun’s great powers,
knowledge which can be used to feed and house,
three lines to go: Peace is a proper name, now,
as it unfolds and grows among all peoples,
finally we have chance to save homes.

Best, rm

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By Dorothy Reik, October 28, 2009 at 7:23 am Link to this comment
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Obama campaigned for this jerk and now he is getting what he deserves.  Unfortunately, the rest of us are suffering too.  I am not a big supporter of the public option - we need single payer - but Lieberman’s behavior is despicable on all fronts.

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By Psy333che, October 28, 2009 at 6:51 am Link to this comment

P.T.
You are so right.. the real goal is to see Obama fail and also coming close ..
Also Lieberman has spent 15 years against reform and
it does not hurt to also get over a million from Insurance Companies which Lieberman fails to also own
It is obvious that he is owned by The Insurance companies and not” The People who elected him”

http://www.congress.org

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/64671-lieberman-health-bill-concern-not-based-on-states-insurers

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By The Old Hooligan, October 28, 2009 at 6:50 am Link to this comment

They used to hang people in this Country for being traitors.

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By wally, October 28, 2009 at 6:37 am Link to this comment
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It clear who our oppressors are (we the Gentiles) , in every form of Goverment/Finance/Media

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By Thong-girl, October 28, 2009 at 6:33 am Link to this comment

Folks from Connecticut are willing to wait for Lieberman to retire in 4 more years?  A patient group apparently.  Lieberman is the most loyal person in the world to his country, and we all know which country I am referring to, Israel.  Both he and his wife are only interested in doing what they do for Israel and have no regard for our country.  Why does he keep winning?  Another question most know the answer to, but won’t answer, especially in public.  Connecticut has a bounty of other lover of only Israel.  Until it is said publicly and until we demand they leave this country, well we will soon be answering to them about everything.

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By de profundis clamavi, October 28, 2009 at 6:17 am Link to this comment

If you live in Connecticut, it’s time to get busy. If you achieve nothing else between now and 2012, make sure Joe Lieberman is never elected to public office in Connecticut again. In the meantime, make sure the filthy rat can’t appear in public in the state without somebody making an unpleasant scene to spoil his repulsive little fantasy world in which he purports to represent anybody besides military contractors and insurance company CEOs.

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By Linda Sutton, October 28, 2009 at 5:55 am Link to this comment

Too often the Dems have caved when filibusterers have been threatened. If this is planned, let’s have these filibusters have themselves fitted out with catheters or diapers and see how long they really can rant.

Now will INCUMBENTS reconsider their ridiculous support for other incumbents??? We had a serious DEMOCRATIC WINNER in the last CT senatorial primary, but did the party line up behind him??? No…enough joined with REPUBLICANS who re-elected the LOSER of the Democratic primary and sent him back….thus… our present traitor.

When, oh when, will the leaders of our party start to look to the grassroots and FOLLOW what they are telling them to do??? Lieberman is NOT a Democrat anymore and they need to stop PRETENDING that he is.

Thank you, Bob, for calling for his removal as a committee chair. It’s the least they should do to him.//

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By MarthaA, October 28, 2009 at 5:39 am Link to this comment

Lieberman is a Conservative. There is not a clearer picture of who Conservatives actually represent than Joseph Lieberman. Conservatives represent their constituents, which are “BIG” Insurance, “BIG” Pharma, “BIG” Industry, “BIG” Banks, “BIG” Business, all private operations that represent “BIG REVENUE STREAMS”, and “WALL STREET”.   NO CONSERVATIVE represents the public, the people.

ONLY LIBERALS represent their constituents, the public, the people, the Common Population.

Lieberman is on the PUBLIC’S Left and is a traitor to the public, the people, as the Left IS the public, the people, the Common Population. All conservatives on the Left are the same as Lieberman, they hide it better, if it had not have been Lieberman standing against the public option, it would have been one of the other Conservatives to make certain their private big capital constituents are represented. 

ALL Conservatives and Moderates are the Right and should be on the Right, instead of weakening the Left.

It is time for ALL Conservatives and Moderates to move over to the Right, where Moderate will mean something, so that there can be equilibrium in Congress for theNON-CAPITALIZED PUBLIC, the people, the Common Population, the LIBERALS against BIG PRIVATE CAPITAL, Big Banks, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Business, Big private operations and the Elite—the Elite Capitalist Class, the CONSERVATIVES.

ALL individual citizens who do not represent BIG CAPITAL, being Conservatives is ludicrous, and is the cause of there being no equilibrium in Congress.

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By James M. Martin, October 28, 2009 at 5:08 am Link to this comment

Just looking at him makes me want to puke.  To think that he once ran as VP candidate with Al Gore.  I am beginning to think we were actually lucky that Bush “won.”  If Al had gotten in, he might have had a heart attack or something and then….Well, you get the point.

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By JohnMcD, October 28, 2009 at 5:03 am Link to this comment

Yup:  Let them stand up in the chamber and filibuster.  Make sure that CSPAN brings cameras and livestreams the feed to the internet so we can hear exactly what kind of crazy they’re talking about. 

What I’m worried about now is the inevitable crowd of people who will insist that we pass something without a public option, because “something is better than nothing.”  Not in all cases, and definitely not when something means forcing every American to buy a flawed insurance product.

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By joe, October 28, 2009 at 5:00 am Link to this comment
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what a creep

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By Jeri Hurd, October 28, 2009 at 4:31 am Link to this comment
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This is one (new) Connecticut resident that can not wait until he’s up for election again. He showed his true allegiance during the presidential campaign.

Interestingly, when I called his office to express my support for the public option and asked the Senator’s position, his staffer would only say, “Senator Liebermann does not support a public option.”  “Fine,” said I, ‘What does he support?”  “He supports more competition.” 

“What does that mean?” I asked “He believes the market place should be more competitive.” Yes, I said, but how does he want to achieve that?  “He does not support the public option.”

And so it goes…

What a slime ball.

The dems seem to be growing more of a spine on this.  But I would really love to see them just ram it through, circumvent the filibuster and forget the whole bipartisan stuff.  It’s a lovely ideal, but they should realize by now the Republicans are NEVER going to play ball.  It is party first for them, and to hell with the country.

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By sawdusttx, October 28, 2009 at 4:22 am Link to this comment

“Hypocritical” is a nice word, but may miss the point. The consistent errant and attention-seeking behavior Lieberman exhibits could belie some self-delusionary trait or some other form of extremely narcissitic mental aberation. His $1M+ plus contributions from Aetna Insurance not withstanding, his flying so completely in the face of the obvious and logical seems at best bizarre.

Being “nuts” and holding public office seems to be the norm for many today, but Lieberman raises the level of participation to new levels of incomprehensibility.

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By tmullins, October 28, 2009 at 4:14 am Link to this comment

This is infuriating !  Especially after getting a dose of the status quo. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 Politicians and Profit Machines come in way ahead of Patients.

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By Baronscarpia, October 28, 2009 at 4:09 am Link to this comment

Fine.  Let them filibuster.  Let them make their case for Big Business by holding up the work of the national government, and Democrats can take special care to point out to the American voters just who Republicans really stand for. 

This is a fight worth going to the mat.  If Democrats do, Republicans will get creamed in the 2010 elections.  If Democrats cave in, they’ll be the ones counting the corpses.

Meanwhile, toss that slime-covered, dung-eating man-lizard freak of political evolution Joe Lieberman out of the Democratic caucus.  And film his useless bony ass bouncing down the marble hallway.  Then put it on YouTube for millions of Americas to delight in for hours on end.  Let’s finally be done with that outrageous fiction that’s he’s “independent,” call a spade a spade, and a Republican a Republican.

It’s time for Reid and Democratic leadership to show some hair.

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By gwazdos, October 28, 2009 at 4:05 am Link to this comment

Today he should be stripped of ALL leadership positions, dropped from all committees, dropped from all caucus meetings, further - I would not even allow him to use a bathroom and then only if a Repugs holds his thing when he goes into a Repub bathroom. You have all said what he is, THIS MAN HAS NO HONOR AND MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE SENATE ASAP. BOY THIS GUY RAISES MY BLOOD PRESSURE!

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By ardee, October 28, 2009 at 3:11 am Link to this comment

In Lieberman’s first Senate campaign he ran against Lowell P. Weicker, Jr., a Senator running for a fourth term. Joe’s campaign was based, in part, on “time for a change” saying three terms was enough for anyone.

Joe is now in his fourth term…..hypocracy much?

But the Democrats do display a certain lack of moral fiber and an inability to crack the whip, not only concerning this disreputable Independent who puts his five million in campaign funds collected from the Insurance and Health Care Industries above the truth. We see Republicans , time and again, standing together and all in line, while Democrats are like herding cats.

I am not applauding an increasingly radicalized Republican Party only noting the internal discipline lacking within the other guys.

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By montanawildhack, October 28, 2009 at 3:05 am Link to this comment

A right on article…  Lieberman is the worst kind of human scum….  In my most humble opinion he is a traitor to the American people and, more seriously, a traitor to America…. (and I think we all know what the penalty for treason is)  He represents the interests of Israel first, last and always…  His beloved Israel provides health care to all its citizens… I’m fighting to keep my health care and my taxes are going to providing gold plated health benefits to a war mongering theocracy… Well that’s just great….

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By racetoinfinity, October 28, 2009 at 2:18 am Link to this comment

Right-on, Robert Scheer!  Lieberman is beneath contempt, as demonstrated by your eloquent post.

If they want to filibuster, Harry Reid should NOT permit Rule 22, and thereby require that an actual filibuster take place with a quorum of Senators attending required.  See the following:

From Wikipedia:

Procedural filibuster

“In current practice, Senate Rule 22 permits filibusters in which actual continuous floor speeches are not required, although the Senate Majority Leader may require an actual traditional filibuster if he or she so chooses. This threat of a filibuster where no floor speech and no quorum is required may, therefore, be more powerful than an actual filibuster, which would require attendance by a quorum of Senators as well as the physical presence of the Senators speaking.

Previously, the filibustering senator(s) could delay voting only by making an endless speech. Currently, they only need to indicate that they are filibustering, thereby preventing the Senate from moving on to other business until the motion is withdrawn or enough votes are gathered for cloture.”

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, October 28, 2009 at 2:00 am Link to this comment

As a former Connecticut resident, I’ve had a few brushes with this wonderful Senator.  During the government shutdown my oldest son was required to get a passport for a trip to Australia.  He asked me to contact my senators to see if they could help.  I first contacted Lieberman’s office who basically told me to go f**k myself.  I then went to Chris Dodd who not only offered to help but arranged for the local passport office in Stamford to be opened so we could get the work done.  I voted for Dodd because of this help but against Lieberman because he is nothing but a slug who is in this for himself and no one else.  I know of no one in Connecticut who can say anything good about this guy and I fully expect he will be retired in 2014.  Good riddance to a truly wonderful piece of crap.

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By SaveTheTenth, October 28, 2009 at 12:54 am Link to this comment

Cost of War in Iraq http://costofwar.com/
$695,105,259,504

Cost of War in Afghanistan
$230,201,756,718

Total Cost of Wars Since 2001
$925,307,016,223 a few votes shy of a TRILLION DOLLARS

What does one TRILLION dollars look like?
http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html
Notice those pallets are double stacked….and remember those are $100 bills. So the next time you hear someone toss around the phrase “trillion dollars”... that’s what they’re talking about

A few billion here and a few trillion there, who cares, we’ll never hear the chains clink around our grandchildrens feet

Who (or what) gets the interest on US Debt?

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By P. T., October 28, 2009 at 12:17 am Link to this comment

The real goal of many neocons, writes journalist Robert Parry, “is simply to see President Barack Obama fail. Their own ‘back door’ strategy appears to be crippling Obama over his top domestic priority and thus hobbling his ability to challenge hawkish neocon positions on Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East.”

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