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Posted on Oct 15, 2009
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By Eugene Robinson

Rush Limbaugh, are you ready for some football?

Um, I guess not.

The right-wing radio host’s attempt to become part-owner of the St. Louis Rams ended Wednesday when his fellow investors cut him from the squad. Rush got the bum’s rush shortly after Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the National Football League, hinted strongly that His Loudness was most unwelcome.

Controversy had focused on Limbaugh’s history of incendiary and offensive remarks about race. Striking his patented tone of arrogant, bombastic victimhood, Limbaugh sought to portray his ownership bid as an urgent matter of great historical importance to the nation.

“This is not about the NFL, it’s not about the St. Louis Rams, it’s not about me,” he bellowed on his show, hours before being sacked. “This is about the ongoing effort by the left in this country, wherever you find them, in the media, the Democrat Party, or wherever, to destroy conservatism, to prevent the mainstreaming of anyone who is prominent as a conservative. Therefore, this is about the future of the United States of America and what kind of country we’re going to have.”

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No, it’s not. It’s about making a splash and getting attention. And it’s about the free market and individual rights—which I thought conservatives were supposed to worship.

Limbaugh had every right to join the group of would-be buyers headed by sports mogul Dave Checketts, who already owns the St. Louis Blues hockey team. And, let’s be honest, Limbaugh would hardly have been the only archconservative to own a piece of a pro football team. Given the demographic profile of the average NFL franchise owner—white, male, middle-aged to elderly, richer than Croesus, egocentric—I doubt that many of Limbaugh’s political and social views would be out of place. I mean, it’s not as if he were trying to join the board of the ACLU.

But Goodell had not just the right but the duty to consider the impact that such close association with Limbaugh would have on the league. The NFL hates controversy like the plague, because controversy—of the non-sporting kind—is bad for business. It’s one thing for fans to debate a questionable pass interference call; it’s quite another for sports-talk hosts and their callers to argue about whether the league endorses tendentious and stereotypical views about African-Americans. Whatever NFL owners might think about politics or race, they don’t broadcast their opinions nationwide every day the way Limbaugh does.

Attention has focused mostly on Limbaugh’s contention in 2003 that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated and that he was being overhyped because “the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.” This was stupid and wrong on every level—black quarterbacks had already excelled, with Doug Williams having led the Washington Redskins to a Super Bowl victory 15 years earlier; and McNabb was good enough to take the Eagles to the Super Bowl two years later. The statement offended enough people that it got Limbaugh fired from his short-lived job as an ESPN football analyst.

But Limbaugh has made other ugly observations. He gave this overview of the preponderance of black players in the league: “The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There I said it.” He has referred to basketball as “the favorite sport of gangs.” He has called President Barack Obama “the greatest living example of a reverse racist” and “an angry black guy” and—because of his biracial heritage—a “Halfrican-American.” An equal-opportunity offender, Limbaugh also has called Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor a “reverse racist,” compared illegal Latino immigrants to an “invasive species,” and referred to Native Americans as “Injuns.”

Hey, I understand, it’s all about the ratings. For Limbaugh, more outrageousness equals a bigger audience, and a bigger audience equals more money. But football operates by a different formula. The sport’s executives and owners understand how diverse the nation has become. They realize that soon there will be no racial or ethnic majority, just a collection of minorities. They know that they’re in the business of entertaining, not offending.

In announcing that Limbaugh was no longer associated with his bid for the Rams, Checketts said it was “clear that his involvement in our group has become a complication and a distraction.”

That’s the way the free market works in this great country of ours. I know that Rush will join me in a chorus of “God Bless America.”

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.

© 2009, Washington Post Writers Group


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By Inherit The Wind, October 21, 2009 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment

Thong-Girl: You are a hypocrite.  Here you are, DELIBERATELY labeling yourself as a sex object (“Thong” which brings to mind a non-panty or non-bikini bottom that BARELY covers your genitals while COMPLETELY showing your a$$ and is designed to say “I’m Hot! and I’m willing—for the right guy!”), yet chastely condemning the opposite sex for (mostly) safely channeling violent and destructive impulses into a game, much of with is driven by testosterone—the same thing that makes men breathe funny at the sight of….a woman in a thong.

Unlike Ted, I do NOT believe that women are un-qualified for the highest ranks of corporations or governments.  Some are qualified, some aren’t. Just like men.  Some are governed by their emotions, some govern theirs—just like men.  Pick two Conservatives—such as George W. Bush and Margaret Thatcher.  One was governed by emotions and a need to show others—and incompetent, the other was coolly ruthless, and very effective at getting things done HER way, like them or not.

Look at Keith Olberman and Rachel Madow—he’s FAR more emotional than she is—Rachel is NEVER out of control and Keith LOVES to fly off the handle.

Or those two demons from Hell: Glen “The Weeper” Beck and Ann Coulter-geist.  Which one is emotional?

Even Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden—I can go on and on.

BTW, T-Girl—lots of women love football and the UFC.  Some of these athletes are jerks, many are not.  But then again, many actors/actresses are jerks too, some are not.

Such raw, absurd stupid generalizations as you make about sports are about as close-minded as me saying because I like coffee and don’t like tea, that tea should be banned and anyone who likes tea is not to be trusted.

Take an emotional position, completely change the context but keep the structure and it frequently reveals the innate illogic of the argument—as I have done.

(please now don’t say “Thong-Girl” is because you like to wear thongs on your feet—then you’d be “Zori-Girl” or “Sandal-Girl”, OK?)

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By Thong-girl, October 21, 2009 at 5:55 pm Link to this comment

So sorry Teddy Bear, but you are not a progressive and Bonobos, pygmy chimps, Pan paniscus, as opposed to P. trogoldytes, are apes and they don’t use violence at all.  Please don’t try to lecture about social biology or gender politics as you do not have the chops.

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By Rayven, October 21, 2009 at 9:15 am Link to this comment

“Well said and so very, very true Eugene!” Thanks again and keep up the great work!

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By ted, October 21, 2009 at 6:49 am Link to this comment
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Thong-girl, October 18 at 11:49 am—I hate to tell you this but men and women are different.  It’s cute how women are allowed (by society) to comment on what they don’t like or understand about the other sex’s lives but men have to keep silent. It’s also not too smart to create wedge issues that drive others away politically.

Anyway here are some truths (no doubt, inconvenient):  1.  Men are more violent than women.  This is true for all apes, why should it be different for humans?  Probably you don’t believe in innate nature.  Young males should be taught to be responsibly violent.  Denying their nature actually drives them into video games and the arms of the military.  2.  It’s not all bad.  Men at least are more able to reason under the influence of emotions.  I hate to tell you this but the corporate glass-ceiling is biological - women are just too driven by emotional winds.  (I thought I’d even the score.  If you can say what you really feel, why can’t I?)

Actually this post is meant for bystanders, I doubt if you could be reached.  I don’t understand how liberals (and I was raised one, I now consider myself a progressive) have come to think that humans start out as programmable zero slates.  That view is actually insane, I’m sorry.

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By no mans land, October 19, 2009 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

I t W:

Very true. I think the most disturbing part of war for me is when parents consciously push their kids into it. There is something so OFF and tragic about that. Nothing sicker IMO. Then, when their romance is shattered by tragedy, they must either believe the lie more proundly, or collapse in the desperation of what they know they did.

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By Inherit The Wind, October 19, 2009 at 7:25 pm Link to this comment

No_Man’s_Land, October 19 at 10:16 pm #

I t W:

All very true statements, except that there are a lot of those who join that do get off on it, or at least on the thought of being revered as a “hero.” I think many of us who went that route were just damn insecure in life.
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NML: I defer completely to your first-hand judgment.  I’m talking about the LEADERS in Bush’s regime and the Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys who were loudly on the bandwagon.

Interesting factoid: Teddy Roosevelt, who was always gung-ho for a fight, even if he was in it, was SO broken up when one of his sons was killed in WWI that he totally collapsed and was dead himself 6 months later, barely 60 years old.  Teddy had no problem fighting himself and risking dying, or sending other men’s sons to fight and die, but couldn’t deal with the loss when it was one of his own children.  Even the greatest can be moral hypocrites.

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By no mans land, October 19, 2009 at 7:16 pm Link to this comment

I t W:

All very true statements, except that there are a lot of those who join that do get off on it, or at least on the thought of being revered as a “hero.” I think many of us who went that route were just damn insecure in life.

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By Inherit The Wind, October 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment

NML:

You leave out the ONE key ingredient in you discussion of war being an extension of game and business competition:  The cheerleaders and senders and beer-helmet guys are NEVER the ones who actually go there and put their lives on the line for us.  Was there ONE gung-ho neo-con in the Bush White House who had actually SERVED in a war? No! And they marginalized or fired those who had, like Powell and Shinseki.  Coward chicken hawk b@$t@rd$.

Competition is war is EASY if you nor YOUR kids don’t actually have to go, fight and die or be maimed.  It’s a lot tougher when that war is real to YOU.

Ending the draft should have made us better and less eager to fight wars.  It did the opposite.

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By Samson, October 18, 2009 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment

In response to a comment below, back when Rush was getting started, Rush (and his backers) would pay the local radio stations to run his show.  What they would do would be offer say a 2 hour show to a local radio station, and then say they were willing to buy all the ads for that slot.  That made it a no-risk deal for the radio station to put on this unknown talk show host.

Success is easy in a capitalist society when you are backed by people with lots of money who are willing to lose some of it to help you establish yourself.

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By no mans land, October 18, 2009 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind

Admittedly, that’s broad generalization. Nonetheless, I do think that having a competetively based culture lends itself to misperceptions about reality. I would point to the NFL-style attitude people had in the build up and execution of the war in Iraq. The only it was missing was beer helmets. In fact, when I suggested to my mother back in 2004 people were treating the war as though it were a Monday Night Footbal game, her question to me was “what’s wrong with that?” Of course, once the casualties started rolling in, attitudes began to change.

Mix with that the requirement to compete for sustenance in market, which dehumanizes people for profits on a daily basis, I suppose the rules of jungle apply. People are no longer people. They are “Human Capital” or “Human Resources.”

Does that mean that playing a competitive game makes a person desire war? No. But being such competitive society can lend itself to a sort of dehumaniztion of an opponent or perceived opponent. And when its for real, the dehumanization of an “enemy” becomes much easier for those who have become accustomed to doing it. All that’s left to do is for Johnny to get his gun.

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By Samson, October 18, 2009 at 5:12 pm Link to this comment

Completely different circuses, talk radio and pro sports, and apparently they don’t mix.

Both indeed serve the same role as the circuses in ancient Rome.

What scares some people would be if 50,000,000 Americans spent the weekend talking about the trillions of their money that’s been just handed over to Wall Str.  Some people would clearly rather have us watch football.

Go Falcons!

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By Fat Freddy, October 18, 2009 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment

Thong-girl

How about a nice game of chess?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo&feature=related

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By Ron, October 18, 2009 at 2:43 pm Link to this comment
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Man your all so uptight.Rush has a talk show and points out things the current administration dosent want you to know or think about.And whats this got to do with being a silent partner in a football team anyhow.You can always tell the people who dont listen to his program,they dont have a clue as to what he talks about.And the hate they spew!

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By Inherit The Wind, October 18, 2009 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment

Right on, Thong Girl!

Now I’m going to go back to watch the Giants game as the Saints are beating the crap out of them.  I’m really going to enjoy it….but I’m not going to enjoy it because it’s inhuman and brutal.

Then I’m going to watch the UFC, but I’m not going to enjoy that either.

Then to wind up the day, I’m going feel guilty for having trained in a dojo for seven years, with both my wife and older son, since we all know how brutal the UFC is.

All games that are played against someone are training for war.  Even chess and checkers.

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By jack, October 18, 2009 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment
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All exercised over a media demagogue - next week Randy Rhodes won’t let a
minute go by without yuking it up over the “Rush’s rout” - her fans will rejoice

Of course, the Left/Right distraction gives all pundits (pro & am) something to
run with - but,  all are running in circles

Media demagogues (Right or Left) are not the enemy - they’re essentially useful
tools (some obviously fools) - nevertheless useful in perpetuating distraction
from the real enemy:

The Global Finance Oligarcy, e.g. the Rothchilds, Soros, Buffets and their
water-boys, Geitner, Summers, Diamond, Rubin, et al;  the folks who’d make
The Donald clean the loo and if he whined (which of course he would do), FIRE
HIM!

Get a clue, folks; your real enemies literally own the Limbaughs, Madows,
Becks, Huffingtons - their polemic circus tweaks everyone - works everyone
into a lather over phony enemies

Ignore them - let them retire and start organizing seriously - that’s what it will
to take to bring down The Global Finance Oligarcy - everyone’s enemy!

They and their Global War Of Terror must be terminated. If not, Depleted
Uranium Poisoning - the real Trojan Horse inside their insane agenda - will
terminate humanity as we know it.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6009
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=82

1. Nichols, “There Are No Words
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Mar04/Nichols0327.htm

2. Nichols, “My God! My Country Is Using Poison Gas In Iraq
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug04/Nichols0807.htm

3. Russell Hoffman, “Poison Fire, USA
http://www.animatedsoftware.com/poifu/poifu.swf

4. Moret, Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets
http://www.sfbayview.com/081804/Depleteduranium081804.shtml

5. World Depleted Uranium Weapons Conference
http://www.uraniumweaponsconference.de

6. International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan written opinion of Judge N.
Bhagwat http://www.traprockpeace.org/tokyo_trial_13march04.doc

7. Gsponer and Hurni, “Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons: The Physical
Principles Of Thermonuclear Explosives, Inertial Confinement Fusion, And The
Quest For Fourth Generation Nuclear Weapons
http://www.inesap.org/publ_tech01.htm

8. Ingri Cassel “An Interview with Amy Worthington ” 5-15-2005
http://www.rense.com/general65/amy.htm

9. Declassified documents, the Manhattan Project, 1943 Memo to Gen. Leslie
Groves. http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/Groves-Memo-Manhattan30oct43.htm

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By Jean Gerard, October 18, 2009 at 11:51 am Link to this comment
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This just in:

The recently incorporated State of High Dudgeon, located east of the Sierras in the Great Basin desert area betwee Utah, Nevada,and California, has just announced that, as it has no money for start-up expenses and has already overspent its first annual budget donated by corporate and religious interests, the new State will need a several-billion-dollar bailout from Timothy Geithner to get their infrastructure up and running and keep the hot air moving.

“It has cost us way more than expected to pump in enough water for our needs,” said the unanimously elected Governor Rush Limbaugh, formerly of Fox News.  “That Nazi over there in California is threatening to raise the price of it next year. ‘We need the money worse than you do,’ he tells me.”

When the citizens of High Dudgeon seceded from the U.S. last year, they received a land grant of some 500 square miles from FEMA in hopes that all the tea party enthusiasts, the snide commentators and their followers who pounce on everything Obama does or doesn’t do, might be located in one place for easier future dispensation.

A Proclamation was issued by the U.S. Congress stating that “Whereas these people are evidently living in another land at another time, the House and Senate have passed a joint resolution stating that it is only fair that they should have some mortgage-free propery of their own.”

“It is no more than their just deserts,” quipped Obama.

It does seem, however, that 40 acres and a mule for each indibidual citizen of High Dudgeon is not going to be enough to satisfy these folks. They are now demanding that the FCC make available the necessary spectrum, and that they be provided with the most up-to-date electronic equipment, to be installed throughout their State free of charge.  This will provide every home, school, church and goverment buillding with open one-way comment lines to Washington, D.C. as well as to all other important media centers around the world.

“You are not going to get rid of us so easily,” warned the popular Governor whose high-decibel criticisms of Obama and the Democrats were behind the original secession.  The Governor always speaks his mind, persisting in calling a hawk a handsaw.

“You Washington politicians are a bunch of jail birds anyway,” said Limbaugh in a statement issued to the press from the Governor’s Mansion in Whitesnake. “You stole the Wall Street bailout money from us in the first place.  Now is the time to give it back,” he said,  “If we out here are on the Right of free speech, that’s your problem, not ours.”

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By Thong-girl, October 18, 2009 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

I am sure for some, like No-man, the military provided a vivid look at how power has evolved, the new Anthropology, and how any shifts that deny the powers their pound of your flesh are simply ridiculed or not given to the masses. They have it down because they know how to control the economics of our youth.  Those smart enough to actually design a “peace-time” economy, an expression that oddly isn’t even mentioned by the left, and an anathema to the right, can’t get traction from the masses.  All theses sports have been coded for the masses and removing this code is like moving the predator from the king of beasts.  A few years ago, no grown man would dress up in his favorite team’s colors and go out in public.  Today, the entire family wears the jersey, the do-rags even, and the language of the morons who were pushed through school under the watchful eyes of the Pentagon.

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By no mans land, October 18, 2009 at 9:16 am Link to this comment

Thong-girl:

I completely echo your sentiments. Having been to war, the experience drove a long and utmultuous reevaluation of both my life and history. One of the conlsuions I came to was that we are trained from youth to compete with each other. That training certainly lends itself to the market worship we all know too well, but also the ultimate competetion: war.

Our ability to compete becomes how we measure self-worth and soldiers, I firmly believe, were driven there for both a heitened sense of self worth and the finanical opportunites that military service offers.

Its pretty hard for me to watch and cheer sports anymore…

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By Thong-girl, October 18, 2009 at 8:49 am Link to this comment

Football is so wrong, at every level, that this justification makes me nauseated. Men who have not figured out what the main problem is with football, should be levied their manhood.  The co-evolution of really bad cheap beer and football is part of the U.S. “strategy” to keep men dumb and dumber.  This violent craze, now with even some women in their corner, ought to be shunned by the Progressives as the racist, sexist, violent, half-witted, abusive “game” that is used to assure those who have acquired the addiction that warring, and training young people that warring, is a potential benefit to getting more copulations.  The government we now have is simply the residue of the crippled men and women who can’t figure even this out. 

It’s obvious that women are not capable of convincing men that destroying your bodies is not in the interest of better sex and relationships and it may one day be demonstrated that it was women who controlled this behavior.  For men, it is an opportunity to take the place you used to claim as your own, as individuals.  Scrape the garbage from your life and refuse to ever sit with the “boys” and indulge in this mass programming.  Be a man who can defined by your individualism and you will be the kind of man that really beautiful women want to hang in bed with on a weekend morning.  Sigh.

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By Paolo, October 18, 2009 at 8:47 am Link to this comment

As a free market libertarian, I support the NFL’s right to block ownership by a drug-addled, loudmouth, warmongering nitwit who just couldn’t resist bringing the race issue into a discussion of Donovan McNabb—a quarterback I once witnessed having a spectacular day defeating my Arizona Cardinals, playing on what was later found to be a fractured leg.

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By Ouroborus, October 18, 2009 at 7:59 am Link to this comment

Fat Freddy, October 18 at 9:38 am #
I wonder what his drug of choice is these
days?

Food.
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Judging by how fat he is, it will probably kill him
faster than drugs, god willing.  wink

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By no mans land, October 18, 2009 at 7:12 am Link to this comment

sashagrey:

Do yourself a favor. Sit there quietly, draw a circle in the sand, and ponder the mysteries of its origin and destination.

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By Fat Freddy, October 18, 2009 at 7:00 am Link to this comment

sashagrey

Radio stations pay to broadcast shows such as Rush, they have to invest in a show that is going to gain the largest number of listeners and create the largest amount of profit for that station.

There’s a little more too it than that. Radio stations market a “product” to a specific demographic. Rush’s show, I would imagine, specifically targets white, male, lower middle to middle class, Christian Conservatives, older age group in rural areas. We are talking about AM radio, don’t forget. What real competition does he really have on AM radio? Sports talk? 24 hr News Radio? Not difficult to compete with that. At least NPR is on mostly FM. According to most “Conservative” talk show hosts NPR is the most “liberal” station. If that’s true, then why doesn’t Rush try to compete with them directly on FM stations? Maybe FM stations don’t want him, just like the NFL didn’t want him?

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By Inherit The Wind, October 18, 2009 at 6:57 am Link to this comment

What I hate about “conservatives” is their hypocrisy and refusal to accept responsibility for their advocated positions when it backfires and is inconvenient for them.

This is a case in point.

The NFL is a private organization.  It has an interlocking series of contracts, including the RIGHT of the league to veto a sale to anyone it deems undesirable, for whatever reason.  If you want to join this private club, you have to AGREE to abide by its rules.

Now these rules set up by the contracts of the NFL have blown up in Rush “The Windbag” Limbaugh’s face.  He is facing the consequences of exactly the policies he advocated, but NOW that it’s HIS ox that’s being gored, he’s against it and upset.

The NFL doesn’t want Rush Limbaugh as an owner because it perceives that it will drive fans away, and make players (especially non-caucasian ones) seek deals with other teams rather than play for the Rams.  That is: They understand that Rush is bad for ALL their business and, as such, he’s out.

Rush is whining and crying because under the rules HE advocates, he’s blocked from buying a franchise.

Too F***in’ bad, Limbaugh.  You made your bed, now lie in it.

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By Fat Freddy, October 18, 2009 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

I wonder what his drug of choice is these
days?

Food.

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By Ouroborus, October 18, 2009 at 5:51 am Link to this comment

Fat Freddy, October 18 at 8:10 am #

Yeah, and the future of America is all about Limbaugh!
That egotistical, megalomaniacal, bastard needs to get
over himself. I wonder what his drug of choice is these
days?

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By Fat Freddy, October 18, 2009 at 5:10 am Link to this comment

That’s the way the free market works in this great country of ours.

Not really. Professional sports franchises are nothing like the free market. They all have anti-trust exemptions, for starters. The NFL, NBA, NHL, etc., and the individual teams can all be considered monopolies.

I think the distinction here is that these teams are private companies, not public. Meaning, their stocks are not traded on the open market. In fact, it’s almost anti-free market because the other owners and the commissioner can tell an owner who he can or can’t sell his team to. But, that’s all known from the beginning, and the owners agree to that going in.

Rush is a victim of his own persona. His divisiveness may generate good ratings and be good for the radio stations that choose to carry his program. But in most business situations, divisiveness is bad for business because it cuts off, or alienates, a portion of potential customers.

Just look at his own statement:

This is about the ongoing effort by the left in this country, wherever you find them, in the media, the Democrat Party, or wherever, to destroy conservatism, to prevent the mainstreaming of anyone who is prominent as a conservative. Therefore, this is about the future of the United States of America and what kind of country we’re going to have.

This is exactly the type of statement that the NFL doesn’t want one of its owners making on a regular basis.

Look Rush, stop blaming the Leftist Liberal media for your own personal problems. The NFL commissioner doesn’t like you. The other owners don’t like you, the players don’t like you, the fans don’t like you. DEAL WITH IT!

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 3:38 pm Link to this comment

KD:
“If the Dems would DO SOMETHING for the working classes, the poor, the small farmers, instead of kissing agri-businesses , banks and the general corporate ass, the proof would be in the pudding, as they say.”

I would refer you to some of my writing to Arnecessie in “Why do Conservatives Hate America?” (too long to recreate here.) In it, I try to explain the monetary system and how/why the American public is indentured to the banks. In short, under the fractional reserve banking system, it is numericaclly impossible to escape indentured servitude as people.

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By KDelphi, October 17, 2009 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

Sad to say, Rush “quasi-represents” a fairly large portion of the (now, anyway) voting population. Attacking Rush will just get you into an argument with a fool, with much sound and fury , signifying nothing.


Farm Aid is mostly for small farmers, not Agri-Business, so it doesnt really “take” a political agenda, although Mellenkamp has sued some neo-cons for (mis)using some of his songs.
If people caN listen to Rush and believe, it, they are not going to change. Ever. I just dont happen to think that Olbermann or Matthrews represents the working classes any better—all this talk of “better educated” and “liberal cozasters” is so insulting, what do they expect??

If the Dems would DO SOMETHING for the working classes, the poor, the small farmers, instead of kissing agri-businesses , banks and the general corporate ass, the proof would be in the pudding, as they say.

In any case, better for you to take them on than me, as I get so angry, I used to want to kill them. Now, i want to kill the fools on MSNBC almost as badly, so I just dont do much of them anymore.

Better you than me! (lol ; ))

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment

KDELPHI:

Died was a strong word. Thank you for the correction. I know its still going, but its no where near what it once was and its impact is greatly diminshed. Every event was once plastered on the news. Never even hear about it anymore. Today, many of the performers are booed if they make political statements. It’s a weird sort of thing. They love the help, but then turn around cut their own throats when they vote.

I disagree that ignoring Rush will simply make him go away. Bullies never just go away. They persist until they push you to your breaking point. They must be confronted, challenged, and proven to be the false profits they are. Perhaps once he’s been neutered, but not yet. If Rush is a force, then its a matter of simple physics. Any force will continue in direction, speed and momemtum util another force alters its path. Dr. King knew this all too well. All we have to be mindful of is that we never allow physical or violent force to become our power.

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NML—Wrong—attention. Give ‘em some more.
Farm Aid just happened—again, in July.

http://www.farmaid.org/site/c.qlI5IhNVJsE/b.3992093/

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 1:45 pm Link to this comment

KDelphi:

the divisivness of categorization to provide a sense of empowerment through superiority.

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

de profundis clamavi:

Conitnued from earlier post.

What Rush was able to do was to manipulate the frustrations firt of rural people, then all working people. He became a sort of folk hero. Restauraunts all across the country, states that were once blue, began having “Rush rooms” at lunch time. I credit him with being able to convince people to go along with the self defeating populism that Thomas Frank wrote of in “What’s the MAtter with Kansas.”

It wasn’t long after that movments like FARM AID withered and died. Anything associated with liberalism was now “Anti-American.” To this day, here in Red State America, people cling to his every word.

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By KDelphi, October 17, 2009 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment

What does Rush thrive on?

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

sorry for the duplicate post…

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

de profundis clamavi:

“Olbermann should ignore Limbaugh and so should Truthdig.”

Not sure if you were around or not, but I ceretainly remember the humble beginnings of Limbaugh. HE started out as a no namer on am radio that only the most conservative of the rural populations listened to.

As his free market gospel spread, he was able to completely redefine the word “liberalism” into a term that became sysnonomous with despotism and death. That was around the time you saw the Ross Perot phenomenon gain steam.

With the advent of the internet, his movement gained momentum and soon after you saw the “Republican Revolution” of the 90’s and the birth of FoxNews. It took on a life of its own. Of course the rest is history and probably doesn’t need to mentioned but I will for the sake being thorough. With presidency and both hosues of congress, the movement Rush started went on shred the Consititution, wage high crimes against humanity, and left this nation near mortally wounded.

It wasn’t until Joh Kerry was defeated, did the left really come out swinging. In fact, the Left in this nation ignored the likes of Limbaugh, Coulter and Fox throughout the 90’s and through the start of Iraq almost entirely.

And here we are…

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

de profundis clamavi:

“Olbermann should ignore Limbaugh and so should Truthdig.”

Not sure if you were around or not, but I ceretainly remember the humble beginnings of Limbaugh. HE started out as a no namer on am radio that only the most conservative of the rural populations listened to.

As his free market gospel spread, he was able to completely redefine the word “liberalism” into a term that became sysnonomous with despotism and death. That was around the time you saw the Ross Perot phenomenon gain steam.

With the advent of the internet, his movement gained momentum and soon after you saw the “Republican Revolution” of the 90’s and the birth of FoxNews. It took on a life of its own. Of course the rest is history and probably doesn’t need to mentioned but I will for the sake being thorough. With presidency and both hosues of congress, the movement Rush started went on shred the Consititution, wage high crimes against humanity, and left this nation near mortally wounded.

All the while, in fact, not until after Joh Kerry was defeated, did the left really come out swinging. In fact, the Left in this nation ignored the likes of Limbaugh, Coulter and Fox throughout the 90’s almost entirely.

And here we are…

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By de profundis clamavi, October 17, 2009 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment

Who is Rush Limbaugh and why should we care whether he gets to own a football team or not?

Rush Limbaugh challenged Keith Olbermann a while ago to go for a whole month without mentioning his name. It’s the only time Limbaugh has ever said anything worth listening to. Olbermann should ignore Limbaugh and so should Truthdig.

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

“The voluntary support of laws, formed by persons of their own choice, distinguishes peculiarly the minds capable of self-government.  The contrary spirit is anarchy, which of necessity produces despotism.”

—Thomas Jefferson.

Unfettered Market = Anarchy = Despotism

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By no mans land, October 17, 2009 at 10:02 am Link to this comment

Purplegirl:

According to Rush, soldiers who disagreed with the war are “Phony Soldiers.”

http://mediamatters.org/research/200709270010

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By Purple Girl, October 17, 2009 at 5:04 am Link to this comment

Rush also has repeated insulted the largest segment of Society as Well- Women.
It is not only myopic, but sexist to think that Rush’s comments about Women over the years did not also have an effect on this decision. Many Woman not only watch football and attend games- but give the OK for their husbands to spend the big bucks out of the family coffer for season tickets.
Lets be honest there is nto only significant segment of society that Rush has not insulted. The only ones he has not is the devolving (and heading for extinction) minority of White Neo Con males.
He’s even gone after the Military by insinuating Powell only supported Obama because he was black. Worse he dissed the sharp shooters who killed the somali Pirates holding our captain at gun point. I doubt there are many in our Armed Services anymore who think much of old Rushy either.
When you hate everyone- why be surprised when they prove they hate you back?
Rush should be relegated to a ‘Ham’ Radio broadcast system.

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By Ouroborus, October 17, 2009 at 1:00 am Link to this comment

Limbaugh is a Sophist, a racist, a hypocrite, and a
bigot; with a large following of largely ignorant,
intellectually lazy, easily led/fooled people. That
knowledge alone should answer one hell of a lot of
questions about where and why this country is going
down the drain.

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By Greg, October 16, 2009 at 11:25 pm Link to this comment
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The U.S. has experienced a coup where the dirtiest right wing tricksters, many from the original Nixon squad, pirated the entire AM talk radio dial and installed the greatest disinformation operation in history.  They achieved this by playing to the absolute dumbest people on the planet, the willfully-ignorant “faith-based” pseudo-Christian, racist redneck baboons who make up almsot a thurd of the country.  They are organized into a reactionary juggernaut which is ready to roll Obama as it easily rolled Clinton, while the hopeful Generation O is dozens of years behind in organizing, and lacking the chief motivator that drives the ditto-heads: hate.  These are the wreckers of civilization, who have succeeded in holding the U.S. back behind all other modern nations and determined to fhinish the ruin they perpetrated with their Shrub.

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By Jon, October 16, 2009 at 11:08 pm Link to this comment
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Investors did the right thing.  Limbaugh has tarnished his own reputation.  He’s got enough money to retire to a small island and I wish he’d do so and shut up.

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By Shelly, October 16, 2009 at 8:59 pm Link to this comment
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The negative comments about Rush are from people who don’t listen to him. He is fair. He loves his country and everyone who lives in it. I challenge you to listen for one week and then judge. I want more than one party in the USA. We need to always check the government and make sure the are working for us and not telling us what to do. I don’t understand why so many haters for conservatives. If you don’t agree, great. But do not slam, insult and destroy fellow Americans. Whey are Democrats always defensive? Why do the make fun of people speaking their mind? Why are conservatives a threat? Try to be nice to each other.

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By Danny, October 16, 2009 at 7:29 pm Link to this comment
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Financial football - just for kicks.

Just for kicks whites should make the folks sweat that opposed Rush’s NFL investment. Broadcast nationally that opposers made a major hasty and dumb oversight. They were too focused on the majority playing football and not the majority buying tickets. They forgot to make a critical connection. Rush is white, like most NFL fans.

If a white boycott works like a black boycott, the opposers would quickly reconsider at the first hint whites might boycott all NFL games. Reminding them white power is not in our skin color, it’s the green whites have.

Seriously, whites need a white minded version of Jessie Jackson on this issue. The serious threat of a league wide white fan boycott could be racially uniting, if black players then step up to support Rush….to keep white money in all stadiums.

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By no mans land, October 16, 2009 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment

sashagrey:

“radio stations work on listeners and profit… Limbaugh is on the air because he has a huge audience. If liberal talk radio show hosts could gain the same size audience they would have more air time. Listeners = money, that is all radio stations care about.”

I don’t what’s more disturbing. The fact that your observations about a huge swath of this country are dead on, or that so many people like yourself, who are obviously astute enough to understand the mechanics of capitalism can’t see the inherent problem with your statement.

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By Spiritgirl, October 16, 2009 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment

I realize there will be those that thought that Rush was given a raw deal because “in America there is a right to “free-speech”.  However, not only do I question Rush’s educational achievements, his drug recovery status, and his mental capacity for truth - but I have to question those that support his foolishness!  This isn’t about Rush speaking his mind, Rush lies to the point that his audience (who probably don’t read) actually believe him, Rush twists his “facts” to the point that I wouldn’t believe him tell me that the light was red unless I was looking at it!  Rush has promoted hate against “other” to such an extent that those already unhinged souls that listen to him, and feel justified should they commit violence!

In a word what Rush does is the equivalent of yelling FIRE in a crowded theater, and the Supreme Court has said that is against the law!  Rush shouldn’t be allowed to purchase any sports enterprise because his very public views already color his commitment to what sports should be all about- fair play, an inclusive quality, fun, equality, and a conduct that he has yet to display!

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By mike, October 16, 2009 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment
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“As a left-wing progressive, I think Rush Limbaugh is great. Give him more air time and make sure it’s clear to everyone that he’s a Republican and that he represents the Republican Party. “

I agree…give the old conservative lard ass his own tv show….oh, wait…

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By Dunga, October 16, 2009 at 2:47 pm Link to this comment
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And what probably has HeadRush’s truss in a bunch more that anything is the thought that he got punked by the likes of Sharpton and Jackson.

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By Lawrence Bryan, October 16, 2009 at 2:40 pm Link to this comment

Railing against Limbaugh, while perhaps making one temporarily feel good, is
really pointless. Do you think any of his admirers read this site? Do any of them
read The Nation, or Mother Jones, or Z, or any progressive journal at all? Do they
listen to Air America?

What the progressive forces in this country need is a modern Will Rogers, not
some more clever wordsmiths who come across to Limbaugh’s listeners as Ivy
league elitists sneering at their culture and religion.

It’s just not wise to poke fun at someone who is the cultural leader of 27 million
Americans, no matter how easy it is to do and no matter that he is a real jerk.

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By tropicgirl, October 16, 2009 at 2:38 pm Link to this comment
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This is very disappointing to me. I do not agree with Rush on many, many
things, but since when did unintelligent babble preclude someone from a
business deal, in SPORTS no less!

Day after day we see “reverse Rove” in the Democratic party. No sooner did they
denounce and get rid of (at least to appearances) the underhanded, mean-
spirited, dangerous ways of Karl Rove, then become a Democratic version of
the same.

If you want to play in the gutter y’all get poop on you. Wait for the slap back. It
never ends with you people.  It just escalates.

Eugene should know better. Apparently its ok to be Karl Rove when its for your
team.

Oh and Eugene, its 70% of the people that disagree with Mr. Nobel for Nothing.
That includes lots and lots of Democrats. So, lets be clear on record. 70% of
Americans agree with the Taliban on that one. Got it now?

Now go write something people want to read, please. I know you can do it,
Pulitzer and all.

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By Firbolg, October 16, 2009 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment
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How illustrative of the Liberal-Progressive concept of ‘free speech’.... ‘only if you agree with us’!  ‘So left I am right’ has been drinking the KoolAid for too long… between personal denigration and historical ignorance [when was the FCC formed to control the airwaves?], he/she/it demonstrates the absolute intolerance of his/her/its currently ascendant philosophical base. Orwell predicted it.

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By coco, October 16, 2009 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment

Limbaugh thought his unintelligent babble could outflank people with a little more intelligence than your average right wing halfwit that takes his half truths as the gospel. Given the opportunity his demonic babble would of ruined the NFL just like it has the country. As one progressive radio show said, NFL, NOT FOR LIMBAUGH!!!

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By mike112769, October 16, 2009 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment

Rush being a silent partner on an NFL team is no worse than Fergie from the Black-Eyed Peas owning part of the Dolphins.

He got screwed because of who he his. Granted, he’s a loud-mouth windbag who, a lot of times, makes no sense. So what? There was no legal or moral reason to deny him this investment. What got that done was a bunch of cry-babies on national media outlets whining about how Rush hurts people’s feeling. 

The last time I checked, we were still allowed to say whatever we want. If you don’t want to hear Rush’s diatribes, don’t listen.

He was singled out because of who he was. He would have had NO SAY in the running of the Rams, he was simply a silent partner; so who, apart from a few people with the public’s ear, really cared what he thinks about anything?

The rest of the NFL owners had better cover their collective asses, because this has opened the door into their views as well as Rush’s.

By the way, why didn’t the NFL ask its fans what they thought about the deal?

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By richard roe, October 16, 2009 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment
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here’s an idea. 

if you don’t like what rush limbaugh has to say then keep turning the dial ‘til you do find something you want to hear.

or maybe, shut the damn propoganda machine off (radio, TV, newspapers, etc.) and think for yourself.

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By bobzaguy, October 16, 2009 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment

I think the word “route” needs to be “rout”

rout /ra?t/

–noun
1.    a defeat attended with disorderly flight; dispersal of a defeated force in complete disorder: to put an army to rout; to put reason to rout.
2.    any overwhelming defeat: a rout of the home team by the state champions.

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By Rodger Lemonde, October 16, 2009 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

What the free market gives it can take as well.

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By J. Hall, October 16, 2009 at 12:50 pm Link to this comment
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I am amazed in this 21st century of the amount of people Limbaugh’s audience claims. If these people are followers more than listeners it is frightening. All this guy does spread hatred, lies, innuendos, calls names, is divisive and who reminds me of Joe McCarthy. In one breath, Limbaugh SAYS he’s not racist but in the same, he refers to Pres. Obama as a Halfrican-American; that Obama is the greatest living example of reverse racist—although roughly ninety percent of Obama’s cabinet is Caucasian-; that Obama is an angry black guy- although we’ve yet to see Obama lose his cool- but on the other hand, Limbaugh seems extremely angry every day. He refers to the preponderance of black players in the NFL - most who have decent families and are outstanding Americans- as watching games between the Bloods and Crips; He has called Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor a “reverse racist”; referred to Native Americans as “Injuns.” All he aims to bring out in his audience is division and hatred. I am yet to hear him talk about anything that fosters unity, inclusion, loving (Liking) our fellow Americans.
We all heard Nixon tell the world he was not a crook; every KKK member says he is not racist; Clinton’s claim that :I did not…..” George H.W. Bush instructed his audience to “Read my lips….. which they did, and all of these men LIED. Limbaugh is the only pure one, the non-racist, the most truthful (Drugs anyone?). There was a guy in Germany in the ‘30’s who wanted only pure Ayrians like Limbaugh who preached the same doctrine as Limbaugh, maybe the world needs these kind of men.
  By the way, has anyone noticed in the last year or so how the world has been changing, how other countries are warming up to the US, how intelligent people outside the US are viewing the changes being made in the US is effecting the world? That some of these intellectuals feel so positive about the course the US is taking that they have seen fit to award the president with a Nobel Prize? Naaa, all that’s just garbage.. I am 70. What should we give our kids?

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By Mary Ann McNeely, October 16, 2009 at 12:07 pm Link to this comment

Rush Limbaugh bears a striking resemblance to Herman Goering.  Like Goering, he, too, reaches for his gun when he hears the word culture.  And, like Goering, he should swallow a cyanide capsule so the world will at last be rid of his corpulence and evil, homicidal stupidity

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By Jean Gerard, October 16, 2009 at 11:07 am Link to this comment
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What’s wrong with this statement:  “Limbaugh is on the air because he has a huge audience.”  Or is it:  Limbauth has a huge audience because he is on the air?  If he were not on the air, would he have a huge audience?  No, he has a huge audience because, sad to say, Americans are generally not very well educated, and radio gives him access to them.  Way too many Americans have been encouraged to think that education is “elitist” and something to be feared, whereas ignorance represents innocence, honesty, superior common sense, middle class values, etc. etc.
  That’s precisely why we are in the dangerous situation of being a nation of political simpletons armed with more weapons than anyone else in the world.  And even so, we are forever yammering about how “insecure” we are, and so we need to kill more other people someplace.

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By Ed, October 16, 2009 at 9:00 am Link to this comment
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As a left-wing progressive, I think Rush Limbaugh is great. Give him more air time and make sure it’s clear to everyone that he’s a Republican and that he represents the Republican Party.

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By thebeerdoctor, October 16, 2009 at 8:38 am Link to this comment

well sashagrey has had their say, but if you do not believe that Mount Rush More thinks of black people as inferior, you obviously never listened to his sorry excuse for a radio program OR you consciously seek to remain ignorant in order that Mount Rush does indeed get more, while his self anointed ditto heads fluff the pillows on his great big bed of money.

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By earthwirehead, October 16, 2009 at 8:05 am Link to this comment

@shashagray:

There’s rather more than “couple of sound bytes taken over a 20 year period” to establish Limbaugh’s bona fides as someone wiling to engage in racebaiting and hate speech.

Also, the ‘hack journalist’ you’re accusing of not doing his homework was a Pulitzer-prize winning associate editor of The Washington Post, the last time I checked.

Limbaugh is on the air because H.L. Mencken was absolutely right about the taste and intelligence of the American public… at least w/regard to the audience of Fox News and AM radio.

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By Virginia777, October 16, 2009 at 6:15 am Link to this comment

you are right, So Left, its the volume of Limbaugh’s racist diatribes that is so alarming. This IS NOT free speech, this is media disinformation being shoved down America’s throats.

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By knobcreekfarmer, October 16, 2009 at 5:56 am Link to this comment

But the air waves are owned by corporate America… not we the people despite
what is spun in the PR world of corporate owned mass media.  Progressives will
never get a fair voice. Come on and admit it. If it were really and even playing field
then Rush would be being shown the door.

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By knobcreekfarmer, October 16, 2009 at 3:45 am Link to this comment

“For Limbaugh, more outrageousness equals a bigger audience, and a bigger
audience equals more money.”

And why is this? Really. I want to know. Are people just that stupid?

Or is it that he gets three hours a day, every day, to spew his shit paid for by
corporate interests. I do listen from time to time to try and understand why
people are the way they are. Yesterday, in between what seemed like hours of
commercials, I never hear anything about the newest round of Wall Street
bonuses. Or Goldman Sachs profits. That’s pretty outrageous to me.

He has an uncanny ability to say something like “in my opinion” or “I’ve only heard
this but can’t verify it” then in the next sentence twist the words to make it sound
like it was read straight from the bible. That’s his “talent.”

Free speech = Limbaugh
Free market = equal air time for an Anti-Limbaugh? Na, we don’t have a free
market. We pay for everything in America.

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