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Not All Vets Are Treated Equally Under the Post-9/11 GI Bill

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Posted on Oct 7, 2009
Post-9/11 GI Bill
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By Philip Chrystal

The GI Bill was created in 1944 to help veterans returning from World War II not only to integrate back into society but also to give them a leg up in furthering their education. The Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008 was hailed by various media outlets and veterans organizations as the GI Bill of the future. However, through my own experience in dealing with Veterans Affairs regarding the GI Bill, I have found that the help is far less than what we were led to believe.

Under the original GI Bill, U.S. veterans of the Second World War were eligible for educational benefits, and many of them used that aid. During the Vietnam War era, proportionally more Vietnam veterans used their benefits for higher education than WWII veterans. The eligibility requirements of the Vietnam-era GI Bill were straightforward: If someone had served a minimum of 180 days on active duty, he or she was fully eligible to receive the maximum benefits.

Under the Post-9/11 GI Bill, the eligibility of service members depends on the type of active duty they served. According to the VA, only federal active duty—not training—is considered in determining benefits.

As a member of the Army National Guard, I performed an infantry mission in Iraq for one year, and before deploying I trained for six months. After my return from Iraq, I served in the Army National Guard on state active-duty orders for nearly three more years. Upon the completion of my enlistment, I stayed in Finland for over a year and attended college, tuition-free. Though the college was on the VA’s approved list, the degree program was not. My school counselor and I labored to get the program approved. After faxing in the required information, we received no reply. I would call the VA office in Albany, N.Y., for information and would be dealt with curtly and, sometimes, with outright hostility. Eventually, the school lost interest in pursuing time-consuming actions that were likely to yield no positive results. It dropped the process, and I received no monetary assistance from the VA.

My wife and I moved back to the U.S. from Europe to pursue higher education, having based our decision on our faith that the sound bites from our government representatives were true. We, like many others, believed that the VA was finally going to pay a realistic amount to veterans for education under the Post-9/11 GI Bill. We were shocked when the certificate of eligibility that arrived in the mail plainly stated that I was eligible for only 60 percent of possible benefits because only a fraction of my total active-duty time would be counted. The three years of state active duty I served was not counted for benefit eligibility, although it did count toward an active-duty retirement. Furthermore, after more than one month I have still not received any payment from the VA. Were it not for the kindness of relatives, my wife and I would be in a very bad position.

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If active-duty federal retirement does not discriminate between types of active duty, why does the GI Bill? I wrote to Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., hoping that the creator of the Post-9/11 GI Bill might be able to shed some light on my dilemma. I have yet to receive a response.

The fine print in the Post-9/11 GI Bill systematically places National Guardsmen and reservists in a “second-class” category. With the military overextended in Iraq and Afghanistan, America’s volunteer, part-time citizen-soldiers dropped their civilian careers to serve their nation. That same country now restricts the money those veterans rightfully earned for education.

Uniquely, the Post-9/11 GI Bill lets veterans transfer their eligibility to their spouses or children. Being that a soldier’s family members are recognized as deserving of educational assistance by the VA, it is insulting that the National Guard and Reserve components of the legislation do not extend such recognition to the soldiers themselves.

I am aware that the Post-9/11 GI Bill is infinitely better than its predecessors—yet it is incomplete. In my letter to Webb, I implored the senator to do more and to finish the job he started. Congressional passage of the Post-9/11 GI Bill clearly illustrates that the United States of America truly values the sacrifices of its veterans. Let us “support our troops,” as countless bumper stickers declare, by enabling all veterans to better themselves, and our nation, by giving them the educational benefits they deserve.


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By AS2 Danny McGrath, October 10 at 4:50 pm #
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They should also remove the time limit on the G.I. Bills, past and present.  I wasn’t able to use all of my G.I. Bill and I sure could put the rest to use and further my education.  But the 10 year limit expired and I can’t get a dime for school now.

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By Jean Gerard, October 10 at 2:09 pm #
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“....shoulda seen this coming” is an interesting comment, considering how few Americans seem to “see the next war coming.”  Certain things need to be done now to prevent it. Instead of hype and lies, all media must tell people the truth:  That war—especially modern technological war—is too massivly destructive to continue as practical policy.  That the causes are injustice, fear and hatred. That the time, energy and money must go instead into education, mutual understanding, negotiation, binding agreement, laws to promote less gap between the few rich people and the billions of poor people—all these tremendous and difficult but possible changes have to be made.
  Make a start? Stop bombing the moon for water (one small instance) and use the money to stop pollution and clean up what can be cleaned up. Dig wells in villages in India and Africa, and teach about water-borne diseases there, and, and, and.  One big job at last accomplished by one small job after another.  No magic.  No illusions. No evasion.  Are we up for it?  Or are we just going to complain and criticize?

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By No_Man's_Land, October 9 at 7:02 pm #

faith,

I couldn’t agree with you more. This country has a long history of not living up the promises she makes to her veterans. At the onset of Great Depression, thousands of veterans descended on Washington to demand the bonuses they were promised for service in WWI. They had no where else to go and no money, so they set up shanty towns that later became known as “Hoovervilles.” For their service, President Hoover dispatched none other than George S Patton and the cavalry to push them out of Washington DC by force. One marcher was killed and 50 injured,not to mention their makeshift homes destroyed. Give your brother my best and don’t ever stop holding their feet to the fire.

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By faith, October 9 at 3:33 pm #

I am sorry for all Vets who are not receiving education benefits as anticipated. 
However, I see that there are many, many wounded Vets who continually get
inferior or non existent help for their very real injuries. 

My brother is a case in point.  He was wounded in Viet Nam, recall that was a
war that kids who could not afford to get a 2S (college) deferment (think
Cheney, et al) because there was a draft applicable to all young men age 18. 
The land mine that went off pulverized the young 18 year old in front of my
brother.  The impact knocked my brother’s teeth out, required metal to
reconstruct his jaw, legs, arms, and required him to spend nearly a year in the
burn center in El Paso, TX for reconstruction.  My brother was one of the lucky
ones in that place.  Here, it is 40 years later and the VA continues to make my
brother pay for all his dental, and has only recently been forthcoming in
helping him with some of his other maladies. In fact, in spite of his illnesses
and injuries he was ten minutes late for an appointment which he had driven 3
1/2 hours to get to just to be denied the appointment for the ten minute
lateness.  He was late because he could not locate the correct building, but had
entered the main VA office.  It is an embarrassment that this nation causes our
young men and women to be injured by engaging in wrongful military
conflicts, and then expects our wounded Vets to pay for their injuries.  It is
immoral.

So, although some complain about educational funds, I would just really like to
see this nation demand that congress repair and provide for our thousands and
thousands and thousands of wounded troops who receive nothing but rude
treatment and condescention.  The way all Vets are treated in the U.S. is
appalling.

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By Anthony, October 9 at 2:43 pm #
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Someone dropped the ball on this. This bill should be a blanket so it covers everyone. Right now, the blanket is not completed, because there are holes where that cold air is escaping, getting most vets hot.
Another issue is the online course and the classroom course. If you take a classroom course you can receive the BAH Stipend. If you take that same course online, you don’t get the BAH stipend. To me, the only difference between them is the walk or drive to the classroom; other than that learning has taken place. I think in most cases one spends more time in the online classroom, devoting more hours to studying as well.
We need to fix this- yes I am taking online classes, but I am mixing them up with classroom courses at another school, so I will receive the BAH for the time of my classroom instruction. A headache to setup because it is new to schools. Mercy…

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By sashagrey, October 8 at 11:01 pm #

I hear ya, National Guard and the Reserves have always been treated like second class soldiers.

I’m in the same boat as you having been deployed and served on several state side mission but am eligible for less benefits than an active duty soldier who only signed up for 2 years and never deployed.

The army needs to scrap all of it’s programs and come up with one program that replaces them all and is the same for everyone.

It’s not like the old guard days when drill was a beer drinking camping trip, the guard has changed and it pulling more than it’s fair share of what is happening in the world today, the army needs to see that.

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By No_Man's_Land, October 8 at 7:23 pm #

Thanks for posting this. I too have raised this issue with my congressional representatives and have received no response. In addition to not counting all “active duty,” nor does the new GI Bill include the weekends that we donate througout the years. As I asked on an Army online forum once, does the Active component only get credit for its time while deployed? Absolutely not. They get credit for each and every day they spend in uniform. Not so with the Reserve components. Mr. Chrystal’s assessment that not all service is created equal is dead on.

The nation should be thankful to the National Guard and Reserves. As 40% of the total force, they constitute a low cost, expedient way to enject soldiers into the nation’s efforts. If not for them, we would surely be seeing much more contracting of these wars than we already are or even a draft to make up the difference. So whether we all support these wars or the military or not, we should all support equal benefits and pay for equal duty and risk. If not, sooner or later we’ll all feel it.

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By Big B, October 8 at 5:35 pm #

Please all you veterans and active duty fellows out there, don’t take this the wrong way, but when are you guys going to wake the fuck up and realize that, to the powers that be in our government and military industrial complex, you are nothing. Once they train you to do unspeakable things and then throw you into a meat grinder for a couple of years, they send you back to polite society and forget they ever knew you. How many more injured and crippled soldiers have to come home to a system that doesn’t give two shits about them before they and their uuber loyal military families stop supporting this evil incarnation of a military? My lord Vets, you can no longer be surprised when you sign up that when your time is over you will be tossed aside like so much trash (especially if your wounded) and sent out into society with no (certified) job training, and no money for your education (or at least what they promised).

Your only hope is that you can stake out a good spot in line at the local (HA!) VA hospital, to wait to be serviced by some nurse practitioner from pakistan in a moldy dimmly lit room only to be told that the military still doesn’t believe PTSD exists, and you should take more asperin to quiet the voices in your head.

I do honestly feel badly for you guys, but come on, you should have seen this coming. The miliary leopard has never and will never change its spots.

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By Jean Gerard, October 8 at 2:53 pm #
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The truth is that the government (means us, our taxes, our efforts to vote for and influence our civil officials) cannot afford proper care for vets (or natioinal health care, or good public education, or earth-friendly energies, because we pay too much to kill people, blow up property and destroy infrastuctures in foreign countries.  Money spent on armaments and technologies (plus the Pentagon, private contractors, propaganda and lobbying) eats up billions every month, and continues to increase deficits. Wrong priorities is the problem.

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By carl, October 8 at 12:02 pm #
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What about veterans who served on active duty for 10 years during the Cold war (pre- 9-11), where all expected a major war at any second? They get zero benefits, yet their neighbor whose dad served three years in a military office in Hawaii gets VA money to attend college.

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By Jim Yell, October 8 at 10:19 am #
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Another “shell game” from our Congress, be it Republican or Demorcatic. Another case of “penny wise, but pound foolish”.

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By Guardsmen, October 8 at 9:33 am #
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Thank you for writing this much needed story shedding light on the real benefits
of the post-9/11 GI Bill. As a Guardsmen who did 3 combat tours (in Afghanistan
and Iraq) and spent nearly 4 years out of my 7 in the Guard on Active Duty - I am
also eligible for only 60% and for less than a year - because most of my benefits
were used under the old program for $360 a month. Active Duty friends of mine
who have never seen combat get 100% of the new GI Bill for 4 years total - they
most likely receive $50,000 more than me in education benefits. Guardsmen have
always been treated as second rate soldiers, even though they are more heavily
used in combat than active duty. For Congress, it is all about the illusion that they
are providing for veterans, in reality, it is about cost cutting measures.

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