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Posted on Sep 10, 2009

By Eugene Robinson

Anyone who watched Wednesday night as President Obama explained his health care reform proposals to Congress saw a chief executive making what sounded like a genuine appeal for bipartisanship—and his opponents behaving like a bunch of spoiled first-graders. Obama should ignore them, even if they hold their breath until they turn blue.

House Republicans were particularly ostentatious in showing their disrespect not just for Obama but for the office he holds. The outburst by Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina—who shouted “You lie!” when Obama said his plan would not cover illegal immigrants—was only the most egregious display of contempt. Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the House minority whip, fiddled with his BlackBerry while the commander in chief was speaking. Other Republicans made a show of waving copies of their own alleged reform plan, which isn’t really a plan at all.

And Rep. Louis Gohmert of Texas waved hand-lettered signs at the president, as if he thought he were attending one of those made-for-television town hall meetings rather than a solemn gathering of the nation’s highest elected officials.

Throughout the speech, there was grumbling, mugging and eye-rolling on the Republican side that was not only undignified but frankly un-American. When I was a correspondent in London, I covered far more raucous sessions of the British House of Commons—that’s how Parliament treats the prime minister, who is the head of government. In the United States, that simply is not how Congress treats the president, who is the head of state.

Congress didn’t heckle Lyndon Johnson like that during the Vietnam War or Richard Nixon during the Watergate scandal. Congress didn’t even show that kind of bitterness and aggression toward George W. Bush, who did lie—specifically, about the intelligence that his administration relied on to justify an unnecessary war that has cost 4,300 American lives and enough money to fund Obama’s health care proposals for a decade.

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Wilson issued a statement of apology after the speech, saying he had “let my emotions get the best of me” and calling his interjection “inappropriate and regrettable.” As apologies go, it sounded insincere—a variant of the “mistakes were made” dodge. In fact, however, the right-wing Republicans in Congress, especially those in the House, are all too sincere. And that’s the problem.

Last November’s election so wounded the GOP that the nation is now suffering collateral damage. The Republicans who were punished at the polls for the failures of the Bush years were those in the most evenly contested districts, which meant they tended to be relatively moderate. Those who represent solidly Republican districts were safe, and their greatest fear isn’t being defeated by a Democrat next fall but being challenged by a primary opponent who’s even more of a right-wing yahoo.

There are quite a few Democratic pragmatists in Congress—which is why health care reform is being worked over so thoroughly by the Blue Dogs. In the Republican ranks, especially in the House, pragmatists are few and ideologues are legion. Many of them probably believe the nonsense they spout about creeping socialism and an urgent threat to America As We Know It. But it’s still nonsense. The ideologues’ sincerity just makes this toxic, rejectionist rhetoric more dangerous.

You will note that I have not yet mentioned race. For the record, I suspect that Obama’s race leads some of his critics to feel they have permission to deny him the legitimacy, stature and common courtesy that are any president’s due. I can’t prove this, however. And if I’m right, what’s anybody supposed to do about it? There’s no way to compel people to search their souls for traces of conscious or unconscious racial bias. We could have an interesting discussion about the historical image of the black man in American society, but that wouldn’t get us any closer to universal health care.

What will get us closer, I believe, is the clear, steely resolve that Obama showed the nation Wednesday. His most important line, I thought, came near the beginning: “I am not the first president to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last.”

He told those of us who support a public health insurance option that we might have to settle for something less. He threw Republicans a bone on tort reform. And he drew one bright line in the sand: Throw spitballs all you want, but this will be done.

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.

© 2009, Washington Post Writers Group


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By don knutsen, September 12, 2009 at 10:20 am Link to this comment
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Were all seeing what the republican party has become after years of any members of that party who still had the capacity to care about the people of this country, finally being driven out by the likes of Karl Rove and his dutiful minions. They committed election fraud in 2000 and even more so in 2004 and since apparently Rove’s criminal motivations didn’t extend to McBush & Palin, the crimnal organization that the republican party is now lost the executive branch. But fear not, they still have a supreme court on their side to help hold off any accountability for their crimes against this country. The republican party has been rendered nothing more then the mouth piece of industry. They under Saint Reagan began to turn their backs on the people and under the Bush administration didn’t even pretend to care. The idiots who are still able to call themselves republicans after the last 8 dismall years following gas-bags like Beck, Hannity, Coulter or Limbaugh ( and so many others ) deserve nothing but our contempt. So does a media that gives these ideological boobs a platform to continue chipping away on everything our founding fathers worked for. Its high time to take off the gloves, lets quit being politically correct. When you run into someone who proudly calls themselves republican call them out as the traitor they are. They are the enablers of this, they are the ones who continue to support the politicains working to keep the status quo intact. These same politicians who scorn Obama are the same who are taking the bribes from the industry(s) that suppport their campaigns. Unfortunately, it isn’t just the republicans who are working against the people. It appears very much to be a majority of the Congress on both sides. Certainly all of the repub.s but a whole lot of the other side as well. Its a class war folks….those that have power / money calling all the shots and the politics is just the entertainment branch of the goverment keeping us all distracted while they dismantle the last parts of our democracy. Democracy does not equate to whats best for industry. Its whats best for the people…THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. Blind capitializm taken to the extream is not a democracy either, yet its the only answer the republicans come up with. This after they have spent the last 30 years removing all the regulations they could…Were all seeing what that brings and still they are beating the same drum, pretending the banking industry, or the insurances industry, or the pharmacutical indusrty will police itself for our welfare ? On what planet do you think that works ? Theres an easy solution to fixing the health care system, remove the free health care enjoyed by our congressman, put them on the same playing field we are on.

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By Inherit The Wind, September 12, 2009 at 10:08 am Link to this comment

Folktruther, September 11 at 1:46 pm #

the heckle “you lie” came on Obama’s pledge that the medical transformtion would not include medical care to unducumented immigrants.  This barbaric racism was countered by the disrespect for Obama driven by the overt racism of the Gops, as distinguished from the covert racism of the dems.
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I agree.  I’m almost surprised a SC redneck like Wilson didn’t say “You lie, N*****!” and complete his (and his party’s) thought.  I’ve seen Southern COPers (Caucasian-Only Party) make up all sorts of racially tarred “nick-names” for Obama.  Insulting names for the President are fair game (Dumbya, Chimpy McFlightsuit, Shrub, Tricky-Dicky, Peanut, Slick Willie, Ray-Gun, etc all come to mind) but not overtly racist ones.

Then again, to those, every Dem is a “Democ-RAT”, every liberal is a “libtard” and every left of them is either a “socialist” or “commie” (proving yet again the Right has NO new ideas….).

I NEVER remember any Democrats dissing President Bush like that when HE was bumbling through one of his lying incoherent speeches.  They may have sat on their hands or booed, but that STILL is fair game.  They never did what Redneck Wilson did.

Maybe they should have. Didn’t Erika Jong just write that when a sane person confronts a crazy person the crazy person always wins?

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By Fat Freddy, September 12, 2009 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

MarthaA

Glad to see you using HTML tags. Great work!

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By bogi666, September 12, 2009 at 9:33 am Link to this comment

It was Al Gore’s eye roll of Bush in 2000 that helped him into the Presidency. It even made my brother, a lifelong Democrat until Cliton, voted for Bush. The arrogant hubris displayed by Repubicans will come back to haunt them in the long term. Remember, Repubicans thinks only for the short term, the 3 month corporate mindset cycle they’ve adopted for the way they think the universe works.

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By Leefeller, September 12, 2009 at 7:51 am Link to this comment

The you are with us or against us mentality of the Republicans seems to have carried over from their KKK meetings. They seemed to be itching to burn a cross on the White House lawn.

Maybe I am the only one who feels this way, but Republicans seem to look alike and when they talk they sound alike, actually say the exact same thing word for word.

Slime ball defined in the dictionary,  should be the polite term to define Republican.

We had eight years of Bush and Chaney the greats, so Republican’s are missing their daily enema reports and maybe graft has taken a down turn with the economy, and Republicans never blame themselves, so Obama is it? 

On the overhand Republicans seem to get caught more than Dems? (I had kinky sex with a truck load of lobbyists”) when (not trying to have sex in an airport bathroom) or (I am in love and off to Argentina). Many more were those came from, to bad.

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By ardee, September 12, 2009 at 6:17 am Link to this comment

christian96, September 12 at 7:42 am

Or, for another point of view, religion was meant to placate the slave. No matter that ones life is crap heaven awaits.

Organised religion is on the side of the slave owner.

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By stcfarms, September 12, 2009 at 5:12 am Link to this comment

The ‘spiritual’ experience is merely the human response to information that is
poorly understood. The god creature was invented about 12,000 years ago to
explain events that were beyond our ancestors limited ability to understand.
The reason that the meme is so widespread is because it is passed on from
parent to child, generation after generation and has become part of the
culture. The promise of eternal life is a powerful incentive to believe. Leaders
use these beliefs to their advantage as people are more compliant when they
believe that an unseen all powerful being is watching them. This is the truth,
believe what you will.


“I have never let my schooling interfere with my education” Mark Twain

By christian96, September 12 at 7:42 am #

It is always imperative to remember:

We are not humans going through a spiritual
experience.
We are spirits going through a human experience.

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By christian96, September 12, 2009 at 4:42 am Link to this comment

It is always imperative to remember:

We are not humans going through a spiritual
experience.
We are spirits going through a human experience.

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By ChaoticGood, September 12, 2009 at 1:21 am Link to this comment

MarthaA
I agree with you that Bush was largely a puppet.  I hoped that my intent to spread the blame was my use of the “Bush regieme” in my first post.

The Bush Presidency turned the once proud Republican Party into a madhouse populated by psychopaths.

Only those who mistake emotionalism as truth are still willing to follow the madmen.  It is like an old time revival meeting where speaking in tongues and snake handling are “evidence” of holiness.

To those people, facts don’t matter only the satisfaction of having many people around you who are willing to scream and chant the same thing that you are chanting.  Republicans now resemble children when challenged cover their ears and scream aloud so they cannot hear you.  Their pain is evident and I wonder how long it will continue.

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By Jon, September 12, 2009 at 12:14 am Link to this comment
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Does anyone remember during the campaign that a major issue with Ms. Clinton was that her health care plan would require everyone to buy health insurance?  And remember when Obama said many many times that the solution was to give Americans the same health care as Congress got?

People were breathing fire at Clinton during the campaign, and today, Obama proposes the same thing and all of a sudden, Progressives are purring like kittens, looking at the ceiling, talking about Rep. Wilson and Glenn Beck, rather than continuing to fight for an honest health care policy. 

Maybe the real headline is “No Way to Treat Supporters.”

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By SaveTheTenth, September 11, 2009 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Robinson, I hope it’s ok that I’m a little ticked that I supported Obama over Clinton when he campaigned against Mandatory Insurance.

You do remember that don’t you?

Here, in case you don’t:

OOOPSIE looks like i stumbled upon a prohibited (lol) website.

Here’s an idea Robinson- open up a browser window, go to google and type in Obama Clinton Campaign Mandate or some such thing. It’ll do ya good.

Will NO “pundit” anywhere point this out? Is it just stupid now to believe anything a campaigner says? (ok don’t answer that one, sport)

If they’re all going to lie anyway why do these campaigns go on for so long? Maybe we could shorten the “lying season” a little bit and put that saved money to ...oh i don’t know….maybe Health care?

Robinson: Don’t get upset when I don’t believe the lying new boss, he’s not a lot different than the last few.

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By Chris Fretwell, September 11, 2009 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment
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At this point throwing punches (let alone shouts)would be up to par with the level of dishonesty and lying in our political elite. I’m not convinced shouting is not appropriate considering this fact.

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By MarthaA, September 11, 2009 at 8:13 pm Link to this comment

ChaoticGood,

You’re trying to make it appear like everything was only selected George W. Bush’s fault—- Bush was a puppet administration led by Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and the rest of the neo-cons of the Project for the New American Century in the Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST Republican Party, Bush’s base, the GOP; there are more at fault than just one man doing as he was told.

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By Lucienette, September 11, 2009 at 7:39 pm Link to this comment
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Spirit Girl, you nailed it. Thank you, Lucienette.

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By mackTN, September 11, 2009 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment

” stcfarms
The republicans are only half of the problem, the democrats are just as bad.
Both parties voted for the wars, both parties sold us into banker slavery (your
hero Obama among them) and both parties steal everything that they can get
their hands on.”


I agree with you.  The Democrats did authorize the war, though they claim later that they did so because of lies about WMDs. Still all 8 years of Bush’s presidency, Congress gave him the billions he asked for, NO STRINGS! They didn’t even ask him for receipts.  That money is a big part of the reason we are in a recession.

Notice how during this economic decline, corporations got billions of dollars and easily slipped into bankruptcy to protect their assets and start over.  This is a privilege denied the huge middle-class market, the demographic that banks, insurance cos, drug companies feed off of.  Thanks to Joe Biden, bankruptcy is now mostly a corporate privilege, not a citizen one.

Campaign finance reform must ban elected officials from taking money from these corporations. They are working for them, not the people.  What corporation will give a senator a million dollars and not expect certain legislative outcomes? 

Opensecrets.org will tell you who is taking from what. Stop electing people who take money from corporations.

Ralph Nader wouldn’t.

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By Anarcissie, September 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm Link to this comment

Folktruther:
‘thanks, Anarcissie, ‘seconded’ racism, would be better. I’m getting increasingly bumbled as I get senile.  But, you notice, DMV thinks I’m crazy; I must be doing something right.’

I truly appreciated your sticking the pin in this one.  I had missed the point you made completely.  To me, it’s surprising that the members of Congress don’t throw oranges at one another as they did in Parliament in the good old days, and engage in hoarse, obscene shouting matches and drunken brawls in the aisles and hallways while snatching wadded $100 bills out of each others’ pockets.  That the prissy Democrats would get their tail feathers all in a lather over a little catcall added to the humor of the moment; and so I missed the sharp irony you so aptly pointed to.

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By rev.Jeremiah, September 11, 2009 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment
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My father worked for a company 26 years. The company pulled out of the country, leaving many, including him, without health coverage. Because of having a preexisting health condition, (polio when she was 6) my mother couldn’t get new coverage for any health condition that could have been caused by polio. Together they paid 2,800 a quarter to maintain their own coverage. They continued this even when they became eligible for Medicare. They both worked until the last year or two of their lives. I don’t see this as a racial issue. I see this as one that affects all working Americans. The medicaid set has FREE benefits already. I think my biggest concern is the issue of nationalized healthcare. Insurance companies have had enough control over our health decisions. Now does the government want a piece of the action? For those not yet on Medicare, let me say from my experience with Medicare, it is not what it’s cracked up to be. Many health decisions are determined by what Medicare will or won’t pay. And if Medicare doesn’t pay, personal insurance plans won’t pay either. The last week of my father’s life he was admitted and stayed overnight in the hospital due to a procedure administered that day. He died 6 days later. When we received a bill for his hospital stay I inquired why it wasn’t covered. I was told the Medicare “Review” staff of the hospital made the Dr. change the “admission” to “observation”. Because Medicare doesn’t pay for hospital stays for “observation”, neither would insurance pick up the tab. The “observation” set us back $900.00. What a sham! Yes, something needs to be done to overhaul this system but anywhere there is government there is corruption. It would end up being more of the same I fear.

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By anaman51, September 11, 2009 at 4:41 pm Link to this comment

The current manifestation of the Republican Machine came into being when they needed a way to pound Senator McGovern into itty bitty dirty liberal pieces before he pulled off a win. He was systematically torn apart by the Republican Lying Squad. Thus began an era of organized slander, mud-slinging, misdirection and outright bald-faced lying never before seen during a modern politically charged election.

This began a long history of name-calling, credential-bashing assaults mainly perpetrated by Political Action Committees, which are no less than secretly funded Republican character assassination bureaus. They can perpetrate any falsehood they please while keeping their distance from the Republican Party as a whole.

The Republican Party has shown a leaning toward this kind of behavior ever since it was discovered that the sheeple will listen to and believe any crazy lie they throw out there as if it were printed in the Enquirer. The obvious public rudeness they showed the President during his speech is indicative of how comfortable they have become with this methodology.

The Republican Party has shown itself to be fundamentally comprised of swine. Why the voters can’t seem to recognize this and act accordingly escapes me. I would have thought the conservatives’ reprehensible behavior would be evident for all to see by now, but there’s a lot of willful blindness out there, not to mention wholesale ignorance.

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By Brusays, September 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment
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stcfarms:

On the vote on the Iraq Resolution, 61% of the House Democrats voted AGAINST the resolution; only 6 House Republicans (of 223) voted against it. In the Senate, 42% the of Democrats voted against it; only 1 of 49 Republicans voted nay.

So please don’t re-write history. The facts don’t support your claim that both parties voted in favor of the war.

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By stcfarms, September 11, 2009 at 4:22 pm Link to this comment

The republicans are only half of the problem, the democrats are just as bad.
Both parties voted for the wars, both parties sold us into banker slavery (your
hero Obama among them) and both parties steal everything that they can get
their hands on.  “You can always spot an honest politician, six feet above his
head is a large granite stone with his name on it”.


“I have never let my schooling interfere with my education” Mark Twain

By ChaoticGood, September 11 at 6:29 pm #

The Republicans are taking out their loss on Obama.

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By christian96, September 11, 2009 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment

Stcfarms—-A Christian follows the Old and New
Testament. Most Christians don’t.  For example
in the Old Testament the Sabbath is Saturday.
The Catholic Church changed it to Sunday.  Messianic
Christians(Jews who believe in Jesus) and the
7th Day Adventists keep Saturday as the Sabbath.
The other Christians keep Sunday.  If you aren’t
following many of the issues being debated within
Christianity you are missing some real battles.
There are a group of people who believe Jesus will
return suddenly and snatch people away from
earth(the rapture) whereas another group of people
do not believe in the rapture but believe Christians
are going to have to go through the period of great
tribulation just like non-believers.  There is a
large split over clean and unclean food.  Some
Christians won’t eat swine or any other scavengers.
Others do.  Jesus prayed that his followers would
be one but they are a long way from being one in
doctrines and behaviors.

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By ChaoticGood, September 11, 2009 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment

I write this on 9/11 and am thinking about what happened to us.  The disrespect of a President is one of the things that happened.
Bush was disrepected by almost everyone in the world. He vaporized the “sanctity” of the American Presidency.

The Republicans are taking out their loss on Obama.

The loonies who are becoming the mainstream Republicans are for insurrection and Civil War as a way to regain their power.  More and more, they talk about succession and impeachment.  They “roll their eyes” at anything that is proposed by Democrats.  They of all should hate Bush for what he did to them. 

The Bush regieme destroyed the credibility of the Republican Party and every time Obama stays cool and is professional and doesn’t lie, this contrast reminds the Republicans of their failures.  This is why they hate Obama.

They wish more than anything to see him hang his head in defeat like they had to do many times when Bush mislead them. They want to be able to scream “I told you so” at the top of their lungs.  This outburst of “you lie” is just the tip of the spear of hatred.

America must choose between forever being a child or becoming an adult.  The Republicans are childlike with their grimaces, tantrums and screaming.  The rest of us are hoping that America will “grow up” and be responsible.  That growth will come at great pain.

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By MarthaA, September 11, 2009 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment

“Mein Kampf” the whole book, is Right-Wing frames.

Adolph Hitler frame in “Mein Kampf”:  ““At that time I (Adolph Hitler) adopted the standpoint:  It makes no difference whatever, whether they laugh at us or revile us, whether they represent us as clowns or criminals; the main thing is that they mention us, that they concern themselves with us again and again, and that we gradually in the eyes of the workers themselves appear to be the only power that anyone reckons with at the moment.  What we really are and what we really want, we will show the wolves of the Jewish press when the time comes.”

Adolph Hitler frame in “Mein Kampf”:  “One can never count on protection on the part of the authorities; on the contrary, experience shows that it always and exclusively benefits the disturbers.  For the sole actual result of intervention by the authorities —- that is, the police —- was at best to dissolve, in other words, to close the meeting.  And that was the sole aim and purpose of the hostile disturbers.”

Adolph Hitler frame in “Mein Kampf”:  “If through some sort of threats it becomes known to the authorities that there is danger of a meeting being broken up, they do not arrest the threateners, but forbid the others, the innocent, to hold the meeting, and what is more, the run-of-mill police mind is mighty proud of such wisdom.  They call this a ‘precautionary measure for the prevention of an illegal act.’  Thus, the determined gangster is always in a position to make political activity and efforts impossible for decent people.  In the name of Law and Order, the State Authority gives it to the gangster and requests the others please not to provoke him.”

“Mein Kampf is frames, the whole book.

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By MarthaA, September 11, 2009 at 2:52 pm Link to this comment

Adolph Hitler frame in “Mein Kampf”:  ““At that time I (Adolph Hitler) adopted the standpoint:  It makes no difference whatever, whether they laugh at us or revile us, whether they represent us as clowns or criminals; the main thing is that they mention us, that they concern themselves with us again and again, and that we gradually in the eyes of the workers themselves appear to be the only power that anyone reckons with at the moment.  What we really are and what we really want, we will show the wolves of the Jewish press when the time comes.”

Adolph Hitler frame in “Mein Kampf”:  “One can never count on protection on the part of the authorities; on the contrary, experience shows that it always and exclusively benefits the disturbers.  For the sole actual result of intervention by the authorities —- that is, the police —- was at best to dissolve, in other words, to close the meeting.  And that was the sole aim and purpose of the hostile disturbers.”

Adolph Hitler frame in “Mein Kampf”:  “If through some sort of threats it becomes known to the authorities that there is danger of a meeting being broken up, they do not arrest the threateners, but forbid the others, the innocent, to hold the meeting, and what is more, the run-of-mill police mind is mighty proud of such wisdom.  They call this a ‘precautionary measure for the prevention of an illegal act.’  Thus, the determined gangster is always in a position to make political activity and efforts impossible for decent people.  In the name of Law and Order, the State Authority gives it to the gangster and requests the others please not to provoke him.”

“Mein Kampf is frames, the whole book.

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By Mary Ann McNeely, September 11, 2009 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment

I can reach no other conclusion about Obama except that he is a quivering coward on any number of points, including his complete unwillingness to stand up vigorously and in no uncertain terms against the cross bearing goose steppers of the so-called Republican party.  The Republicans think they are in “Triumph of the Will” with torchlight parades, searchlights piercing the sky and stirring martial music preparing them to rid the United States and the rest of the world of all its subhumans.  Obama is Neville Chamberlain talking about “bipartisanship in our time”.  A wimp!  A toady!  A coward!  Does he have absolutely no idea what these reactionaries and fascists have in store for this nation should they come to power again?  I have as much contempt for Obama as I do for the Republicans!

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By stcfarms, September 11, 2009 at 1:45 pm Link to this comment

Would not a christian only follow the new testament? Most of the christians I
have met only follow the old testament.


By christian96, September 11 at 9:06 am #

“What is a Christian?”  I’ve been studying the Bible for 32 years.  A Christian
is someone who tries to follow the principles taught in the Bible. 

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By Folktruther, September 11, 2009 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment

thanks, Anarcissie, ‘seconded’ racism, would be better. I’m getting increasingly bumbled as I get senile.  But, you notice, DMV thinks I’m crazy; I must be doing something right.

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By Dey, September 11, 2009 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment
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Not unAmerican at all, but dare I say, totally southern
republican.

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By tropicgirl, September 11, 2009 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment

I think this article is a bit unrealistic and I will say why.

I think we can dispense with the race bit because Obama was elected by a
majority, including republicans and independents. So while the American
people did the right thing, against the “odds”, it doesn’t automatically follow
that Obama will. So everyone, in my opinion can stop calling Americans racist.

This outrage is a bit out of place. And, the “climate” for this, has already been
set by 1) the media 2) congress and senate themselves.

Not a day goes by that (both liberal and conservative) media does not call
American citizens loonies, crackpots, crazies and the like, for taking Obama to
task regarding the porkulus (that is where a lot of the anger is still coming
from), and the bailouts. Many people feel that this was such an incredible
violation of trust, so forced down their throats, that it, in itself, is obscene. And
what makes it entirely worse is that the administration is totally “tone deaf” to
criticism on this. And it is paying a price for its deafness. People will make
themselves heard, one way or another, mark my words. Yet Obama and his
administration call them every name in the book. They also call Palin and
others horrendous names.

The congress and senate are committing the worst sort of crimes before our
very eyes. Lists and leaks and documentation regarding the worst sort of
bribery, profit-making, lobbyist money-taking on just about everything they
vote on is available for all to see. They apparently don’t care.

Add this to the obscenity of watching Muslim nations ripped apart and families
and children killed, by Obama, is making people ill. Again, Obama and the
administration are tone deaf on this as well. Like we all don’t exist.

And, of course, today brings up the latest insult that people who believe that
911 was an inside job are also called every name in the book, even though the
evidence is definitely on their side. Rush and Obama have this in common.

So, I ask, isn’t this a little like a prostitute asking people why he/she is not
respected? Come on.

I think you and your fellow commentators better get used to it. So should
Obama. The days of sheeple are waning, albeit not fast enough. The brainiacs
who so totally screwed up Obama’s PR machine risk this kind of outrage when
they turn a blind eye and insult citizens. And besides, I am totally surprised at
why the Obama machine hasn’t reigned in its water-carriers and their
continued insults to the voters. This is the exact opposite way to deal with
opponents. Someone needs to take another class in communications. They just
make Obamas polls go down.

It will be interesting to see if the outraged media cover the protests tomorrow.
No doubt they will all be called “crazies”. So that will elicit a new round of
insults to politicians who are the real crazies.

To quote Hans Arp, famous DADA artist, after the outrages of WWI, (loosely),
“the pretty days of art are done…” I say, the pretty days of respecting
disgusting lawmakers and lying politicans are done…

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By ardee, September 11, 2009 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment

Ouroborus, September 11 at 7:39 am

I really should frame my questions better, though your response was excellent and I thank you for it.

What I should have noted was that I was asking for alternative means to gain solutions from a govt dominated by two worthless and near useless parties.

All the things you enumerate are important, are necessary and are without hope of fruition under our two party system.


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ARDEE and KANAMACHI: First off, Ardee, the republicans are NOT my party. I do not belong to a party.

Secondly, I know how to spell democrat; dimocrat just seems to fit so much better.

Third: Regardless of what you believe, Bush II WAS booed in his first State of the Union address of his second term. It is on video and audio.

You are correct and I had forgotten that booing, justified as it was. I believe that booing ideas or inferences is perhaps less than was the shouting of “liar” at Obama.

I add that I am no fan of Obama or Bush.

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By Pat Martin, September 11, 2009 at 11:44 am Link to this comment
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Spiritgirl said it all. 
I was pleased to see our President back on his MOJO.
He does need to grasp the reigns back from the wingnuts and the I got mine types.
I don’t know what happened to our spirit of charity and social justice, I only hope we can find it again.
I don’t think the display of the Republicons would have taken place if the President was an old white guy.

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By Anarcissie, September 11, 2009 at 11:16 am Link to this comment

Folktruther
’... the heckle “you lie” came on Obama’s pledge that the medical transformtion would not include medical care to unducumented immigrants.  This barbaric racism was countered by the disrespect for Obama driven by the overt racism of the Gops, as distinguished from the covert racism of the dems. ...’

Indeed.  The word you want, though, is not “countered” but “balanced” or “reflected” or “seconded”.

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By DJK, September 11, 2009 at 10:53 am Link to this comment
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@FOlktruther


Racism??  Saying “You Lie” is racist?  or…not giving healthcare that is payed for by citizens to non paying non citizens is racist?


I think you’re crazy.

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By Spiritgirl, September 11, 2009 at 10:46 am Link to this comment

There has been a denial in this nation - in regards to our behavior toward each other as human beings, in regards to our treatment of each other.  A callousness, that has resulted in (1)I’ve got mine, you go get yours!, (2)empathy is for suckers, (3)the government should only help the rich and Corporate, (4)whatever republicans want, republicans get!  It has translated into boorish behavior, outlandish lies, and a dumbing down of the American intellect.  Discussion and debate have been replaced with ranting and diversion! 

When did we descend to this level, I don’t know.  I do know that this behavior has caused a coarsening of America’s heart, a certain apathy by the American people that “the government” does anything well, and a paralysis within this nation that has allowed a takeover of government by the Corporate Oligarchy!  As terrible as Bush and his mis-Administration were, to have said something against him - one was branded a traitor and unAmerican, period end of discussion!  Bushco lied, 4300 Americans and hundred of thousands of Iraqi’s and Afghani’s have died, we have a decimated economy, the rest of the world hated US, and didn’t trust us.  I say if the badly behaving 3 yr. old’s want to have temper tantrums, let them hold their breath in a corner until they pass out, and allow the grown ups to handle the business of governing this nation!!

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By Folktruther, September 11, 2009 at 10:46 am Link to this comment

the heckle “you lie” came on Obama’s pledge that the medical transformtion would not include medical care to unducumented immigrants.  This barbaric racism was countered by the disrespect for Obama driven by the overt racism of the Gops, as distinguished from the covert racism of the dems.

The point is that American attitudes toward authoiry, that Anaracissie rightly objects to, are largely driven by racism.  Homicidal racism in the case of foreign militarism, and medical neglect in this case.  Racism is a central value that guides the US descent into barbarism.

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By mike112769, September 11, 2009 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

ARDEE and KANAMACHI: First off, Ardee, the republicans are NOT my party. I do not belong to a party.

Secondly, I know how to spell democrat; dimocrat just seems to fit so much better.

Third: Regardless of what you believe, Bush II WAS booed in his first State of the Union address of his second term. It is on video and audio. That is what some os us call “proof.” My point, since you don’t seem to grasp it, is this: If you must respect the office of the president under one person, you must respect it under all. Don’t condemn one republican for something a whole party did. I despise republicans just as thoroughly as i do democrats. However, if you want to sling mud, do it fairly and honestly. The dims are just as trashy as the thugs.

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By bane-richter, September 11, 2009 at 9:51 am Link to this comment

Obama explicitly rejected a “single-payer system like Canada’s,” while declaring, “Health care represents one-sixth of our economy” and it “makes more sense to build on what works and fix what doesn’t, rather than try to build a entirely new system from scratch.”
Impeach Bush!

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By StuartH, September 11, 2009 at 9:50 am Link to this comment

Wilson exemplifies a new Boorishness.

Boorishness became fashionable under Bush.  Karl Rove
and Cheney and the talk radio echo chamber set the stage. 

People with sober, considered differences of opinion, especially Democrats, were labelled unpatriotic.  The concept of respectful, loyal opposition was drowned out.

Republicans now are the very worst examples of bullies who can’t get their way through intelligent ideas and effective articulation, so they use crass intimidation.

The latest polls show the approval rating of Congressional Repbublicans to have sunk even lower.  At present, fundraising over the internet for Wilson’s opponent approaches one million dollars and the numbers are still spinning. 

Maybe that says that there is something to be said for the President invoking the idea that American Character matters.  It is interesting that, to an extent, here and there, the debate about the details and definitions in health care legislation has actually been possible.  One hopes that the muck doesn’t wind up obscuring the needed airing of the real issues again as the media decides it has had enough of “boring and tedious” reality and goes back to turning everything into mud wrestling.

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By Mailer Demon, September 11, 2009 at 9:46 am Link to this comment
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..loved the part where he describes something like ‘a few kinks to work out’ in the plan and all that unscripted laughter breaks out, kinda’ like laughing at some schmuck slipping on a banana peel on his way up to the gallows-and we’re the Schmucks! We’ve got this rankest of amatuers presiding over a group
that takes him seriously only insomuch as they can ‘mookishly’ use him or ‘LOL’ not seriously at all.

I laughed too, an F-me kinda laugh.

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By "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, September 11, 2009 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

Is there anyone left in the Republican Party that’s not either a racist closet homo or a racist philanderer?

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By felicity, September 11, 2009 at 9:14 am Link to this comment

“The New Yorker,” Sept ‘08 - title, ‘The Obama Nation.’  “Obama is a corrupt, enraged, anti-American drug-dealing, anti-Isreal, pseudo-Christian radical leftist, black-militant, plagerist, and liar, trained as a Muslim and mentored by a menagerie of Marxists, Communists, crypto-Communists and terrorists.” 

Although this description of Obama is delusional, it does reveal the thinking processes and character of the hard Right.  To imagine those processes to be different simply because Obama is president, is itself delusional.

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By jimsavage, September 11, 2009 at 8:24 am Link to this comment

factcheck and truthdig ought to get the TRUTH right like “It’s a Lie Joe” - After Obama got through calling LIARS to those opposed to his idiotic plan, a humble South Carolina retired Colonel and congressman, burst out “IT’s a LIE!”  Joe was just saying if you don’t let the amendments in for the verification process for using the health care, you provide FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ILLEGALS.  When this law passes, be sure to tell all the folks around the world that we have free health care and they can’t you ought even if you are disqualified - there is no penalty.  America sees no evil, hears no evil and does plenty of evil - just like the three monkeys - see nothing, hear nothing, and say nothing.  Obama that is DISHONEST LYING AT BEST.  Don’t apologize Joe you were right.

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By Anarcissie, September 11, 2009 at 8:02 am Link to this comment

Commune115:
‘What Wilson did was idiotic and the Republicans are on the wrong side of history, but there’s too much leader worship in this article. One reason REAL change rarely happens in America is precisely because of this worship of authority and rigid attitude of blindly following the guy speaking from the podium.’

I couldn’t agree more.  I must add that I was quite surprised to learn that eye-rolling was “un-American”.

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By leftyrite, September 11, 2009 at 7:58 am Link to this comment

I get Mr. Robinson’s point. It’s obvious. But what is this “Un-American” bullshit about? Haven’t we learned anything about language and the associations that it evokes?

Un-American, in my lexicon, dates back to the days of McCarthyite persecutions and to the chambers of the House Un-American Activities Committee. It’s a rightwing term—like freaking Homeland.

Let’s stop using the enemy’s language; it does too much honor to his pyschology. It makes his pathologies universal. Republicans seem to be more sensitive to language than Democrats. Odd.

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By Lucienette, September 11, 2009 at 7:47 am Link to this comment
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What do you expect from sore losers who are a minority? It’s not their country club it’s a speech delivered by a president they would do away with in a NY minute if they could.

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By zack, September 11, 2009 at 7:31 am Link to this comment
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Also - can we please take the president down from his pedestal and stop treating him like a god/king? The president is supposed to be treated equally to the citizens, and subject to the same laws. We let Bush get away with horrible crimes because he was president, partially because of this fawning deference for authority. It sickens me!

We need to call these charlatans out for what they are, and hold them accountable. Obama has blood on his hands for every soldier and civilian that dies in Iraq and Afghanistan due to our unconstitutional presence there.

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By zack, September 11, 2009 at 7:29 am Link to this comment
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Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Obama is a liar just like Bush was - nothing has changed. 99% of Congress lies on a regular basis. It’s time to call these fraudsters out and hold them accountable. I want Congressional Reps to be passionate in their defense of their constituents that are getting raped by the govt. Wilson should have thrown his shoe at the prez!

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By Rodger Lemonde, September 11, 2009 at 7:19 am Link to this comment
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Will the Republicans ever return to adult
supervision?
The lack of grace from the minority party exposes
them as mean spirited spoiled power hungry hacks with
little regard for the good of the nation. 
Are they entering senility? Did they never grow up in
the first place?

NOTE to mike112769 : Booing is not a specific
slander, “You lie” is.

Is there a hidden agenda in the childish and
irresponsible actions from them?
Is ‘presiding while black’ the core of their
discontent?

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By Jim Yell, September 11, 2009 at 6:46 am Link to this comment
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This is my opinion about this fracus, which I do not think requires the condemnation that some want.

I always consider rude behavior as saying more about the perp than the people the negative behavior is aimed at. Not liking the Republicans and their Democratic enablers one bit, it may surprise to find that I don’t think Wilson’s vocal hostility is an error.

I wish that the Democats had not held their tongues when Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield were in full voice with their lies. It would have been more honest if they had been vocal, instead of polite,which obviously holds no weight with Republicans except when they are using it for a device to claim victimhood for themselves.

Our Congressional meetings in the old days got very heated and catcalls were not unusual. Disorderly perhaps but expressed real opposition. Now they all both sides of the debate have worked a nice ponzi scheme of there own where they control offices virtually for life. I don’t think that was the intent of our system and considering the unrepentant accepting of bribes under the disguise of campaign contributions and post service contracts to write books no one will read or buy. Give it a rest.

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By Jim Yell, September 11, 2009 at 6:40 am Link to this comment
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I always consider rude behavior as saying more about the perp than the people the negative behavior is aimed at. Not liking the Republicans and their Democratic enablers one bit, it may surprise to find that I don’t think Wilson’s vocal hostility is an error.

I wish that the Democats had not held their tongues when Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield were in full voice with their lies. It would have been more honest if they had been vocal, instead of polite,which obviously holds no weight with Republicans except when they are using it for a device to claim victimhood for themselves.

Our Congressional meetings in the old days got very heated and catcalls were not unusual. Disorderly perhaps but expressed real opposition. Now they all both sides of the debate have worked a nice ponzi scheme of there own where they control offices virtually for life. I don’t think that was the intent of our system and considering the unrepentant accepting of bribes under the disguise of campaign contributions and post service contracts to write books no one will read or buy. Give it a rest.

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By dihey, September 11, 2009 at 6:21 am Link to this comment

Apparently President Obama and his team do not understand why seniors who are on Medicare do not believe him at all. It is the discrepancy between his statement that “nothing will change in Medicare” and his plan to establish a committee of experts which will recommend how the 500 billion in ten years will be milked out of Medicare.
Yes folks, according to Obama’s plan Medicare will change and it remains to be seen whether it will be for the better or worse. One crucial question is: who appoints the members of the “saving 500 billion dollars committee”? The President? Congress? Seniors?
Since any decent medical doctor ought to refuse to serve on that committee it is likely to be filled with government-friendly hacks.
The more I look at Obama’s byzantine health plans which will funnel billions of additional dollars to private insurers “which are not bad people but are in it to profit from my staying healthy” the more does “single payer” emerge to me as the only sane solution.
Obama’s ridiculous boast that he will be “the last President who ever submits a plan to revise health insurance/care” will become “inoperative” within a short time even if his byzantine plan is passed because it will grandly fail to bring about what he so recklessly promises today and his predecessors will have to tinker again.

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By "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, September 11, 2009 at 6:20 am Link to this comment

Boo hoo, boo hoo, wah wah, wah, wah.  If you want to get the rancidest cheese out of the congressional barrel, simply TAKE IT OUT!!

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By christian96, September 11, 2009 at 6:06 am Link to this comment

Purple Girl—-You ask “What is a Christian?”  I’ve
been studying the Bible for 32 years.  A Christian
is someone who tries to follow the principles taught
in the Bible.  No one is perfect.  The only perfect
person on earth got hung on a cross however, the
essence of Christianity, he arose from the dead after
3 days leaving us an example that we also can rise
from the death of these physical bodies.  The
Apostle Paul said, “I do what I don’t want to do
and don’t do what I want to do.”  In other words
we all stumble.  My only Christian criticism of
Pres. Obama’s speech to children is his use of
“Harry Potter” as an example.  The Bible is opposed
to witchcraft and wizards.  Therefore, his use of
Harry Potter did not improve his image among some
Christians.  It didn’t bother me a lot because like
Apostle Paul said, “we do things we don’t want to do.”  I don’t know who wrote the speech but whoever
the person was should have been more sensitive to
the beliefs of Christians.  For those false Christians who are looking for any reason to crucify
Pres. Obama they got one when he used Harry Potter
as an example.

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By JoshCoulthard, September 11, 2009 at 5:23 am Link to this comment
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It is impossible to please everybody. Everyone has his own ideology. But Obama has his own special way too, which he thinks is best than the rest. What we must do is support what deemed is right for general welfare. Say diplomatically your opinions. But mean it without discrimination of the race.

Peace must prevail in all areas in the world.

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By bane-richter, September 11, 2009 at 5:22 am Link to this comment

Each time one sees Robinson’s scratch uploaded for public display, expect a pedestrian, quickly read, piece of slop.
Rather then focus on the speech, which in itself was a nauseating display of capitulation given the deadly extent of the problem, the Post is sure to bum rush the spectacle of a stooge’s “rudeness”, effectively ignoring the issues at hand as they’ve done superbly since Bush’s third term began.

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By Purple Girl, September 11, 2009 at 5:08 am Link to this comment

Leadership in the Republican party are trying to save their own asses from legal prosecution and their followers are trying to save their own minds through a well known psychological defense mechanism called “Projection”.
The Repugs not only Supported an admin which committed High crimes- they were accomplices.
“Thou Protest Too Much”.
How can a Repug Voter say with a straight face the Dems are ‘Fascists’ when infact it is their party which harbors Neo Nazi’s? Say Dems are trying to destroy Medicare, when it has been them who have tried to end that ‘entitlement’ program since it’s inception? Call Obama’s Presidency ‘illegitmate’ in the Face of growing evidence against Dick Cheney’s Coup d’tate?Not to mention the ‘00 &‘04 election ‘process’.
The Repugs have been acting Schizophrenic because they are in the midst of a serious psychological break with reality and because they can not ‘handle the Truth’ about themselves (nor want to be held accountable).
I love the admission that ‘Christians didn’t vote for Obama’ (a sign recently seen at a Teaparty). Of course they didn’t, they voted for the likes of W, who acted more like a Roman.
I was asked if I believed Obama was a Christian- I had to ask what their definition of a Christian was. Because there is a certain element which calls themselves Christians- but not only hate all ‘non Christians’ (and hope to destroy them, literally & figuratively) But also hate the other sects who share that term.
What true Christian would bemoan “empathy”?
What True Christian would call for ‘soldiers’ or ‘Armies’?
What true Christian would reject the equitable redistribution of Resources?
The Repugs are facing this mental meltdown because they have been proven not only reckless with the Publics money, inept in National Defense, but also, at their core, Heretics.
The Truth about themselves is too ugly to admit and holds the threat of judgement not only in the physcial realm- but the eternal.
We are not just witnessing Mass Hyteria, We are witnessing a Collective nervous breakdown.

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By Ouroborus, September 11, 2009 at 4:39 am Link to this comment

ardee, September 11 at 6:51 am #

“To those who feel, as do I, that neither major party
represents any real hope for a progressive agenda I
ask, wghat are your own ideas for a solution to the
creeping ( perhaps galloping) fascism that overtakes
our governance?”

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I like what you said. Knowing the problem begs the
solution; however, in my view the people aren’t
really interested in a solution; just pushing their
narrow views of some nebulous idea they’ve never
thought through. The solutions are obvious; single
payer health care like most other civilized
countries; alternative energy; dump the automobile as
the major source of transportation; sustainable
agriculture; start making things here again; kick out
all of the bought politicians; quit importing garbage
products from over seas. And, number one solution;
get back to a reasonable/sustainable life style and
stop the consumerist society! Greed and materialism
are killing us.

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By JEA, September 11, 2009 at 4:30 am Link to this comment
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Can we PLEASE stop the ridiculous criticism of Republicans? I seem to remember Democrats behaving in a similar fashion at a couple of Bush speeches, so let’s stop the sanctimonious attitude. This self-righteousness is getting to be nauseating. A few eye-rolls or signs or even “you lie” isn’t going to doom the republic.

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By larkohio, September 11, 2009 at 4:25 am Link to this comment

Mr. Robinson is correct on this one.  There is no excuse for this kind of rudeness.  Whether I disagree with you or not, it is totally inappropriate to yell “Liar.”  This is just what Obama was talking about.  He was trying to get the Congress to listen to each other respectfully, and come up with a solution to a huge problem.  The President was right, and Joe Wilson was wrong.

I suspect that race with particularly white Republicans from the South really is at play here.  Why they continue to judge other human beings based on the amount of pigment in their skins baffles me.
Why does this matter?

On the subject of President Obama’s race, I want to say this.  I feel that he can relate to me, because, I am an older white woman. (So was his mother and grandmother, and keep going back!)  His Irish relatives came from the same county in Ireland that my family came from.  African Americans feel that he can relate to them, because his father came from Kenya.  Isn’t this a good thing?

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By ardee, September 11, 2009 at 3:51 am Link to this comment

mike112769, September 11 at 3:55 am #

My only question to you is if you believe what you posted? On what planet did the Democrats in Congress act towards George Bush in the same manner as did some of the GOP legislators towards Obama during that speech?

Truth matters, Mike, and you are telling an egregious and obvious lie. As I recall, during the worst Presidency in American history, the GOP majority treated the Democratic minority with utter contempt, denying them meeting rooms to hold hearings, denying them access to committee hearings on bills, scheduling meetings without telling the Democrats, handing out copies of bills mere hours before the vote.

Is it any wonder that your party has lost credibility and seats, that moderate and real conservative republicans are withdrawing their allegiance from a party become increasingly radical and beyond the fringe of American politics?

Now, for the actual grown ups here.

We seem to be in a political crisis here, with the GOP no longer relevant to real politics and the Democrats incompetent and slavishly beholden to the corporate interests while ignoring the will of the people.

I read much from democratic loyalists who repeat that the only solution is to recapture the Democratic Party from the leadership that pulls it rightward daily. I say to you folks, get to it!

To those who feel, as do I, that neither major party represents any real hope for a progressive agenda I ask, wghat are your own ideas for a solution to the creeping ( perhaps galloping) fascism that overtakes our governance?

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By Aint So, September 11, 2009 at 3:47 am Link to this comment
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It seems to me those who are quickest to charge racism are the true racists. Skin color is much on their minds.

Those who believe the heckling of President Bush is somehow different from the heckling of President Obama are the true political bigots.

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By r. rafael, September 11, 2009 at 3:46 am Link to this comment
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Obama is experiencing what Jackie Robinson experienced when he went to the
major league.  It’s not easy.

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By Ouroborus, September 11, 2009 at 2:52 am Link to this comment

Given there are 400 death threats per day (that’s a
400% increase over Bush) against Obama; it would be
the height of naiveté not to believe this
rudeness/ugliness is anything but racism. I cannot
remember a time when there was such rudeness and such
a lack of civility in general. The wingnuts Beck,
Limbaugh, Coulter, et al will use every opportunity
in their coded rhetoric to slam Obama at every turn.
They feed the theocratic/wingnut hate machine. The
right wing forgot what patriotism is and I don’t know
that the left is any better; but neither is looking
out for the best for the people or the country. To
all appearances; there’s nothing remaining.

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By Kanamachi, September 11, 2009 at 2:46 am Link to this comment

Excuse me mike112769, I hope that you do not mind my taking issue with your comments.

It may come as a surprise to you to learn that when Mr Bush was president any reactions during speeches were based on those troubling little things called facts and not the out and right lie hurled at Mr Obama by Mr Wilson. It was because people did care for the Constitution and rule-by-law that they spoke out against Mr Bush. Bogus tea-bag, deather rallies paid by some obscure conservative think tank do nothing but create chaos. Where are the ideas from these people?

Heckling in the political arena has had its place in American politics from the beginning, but it had its place and time. Please don’t reveal your ignorance by saying fair-is-fair when we are speaking about a speech by a president—any president—in a joint session. It is protocol to not heckle, and despite what you say about the Democratic Party (not dimocratic) it did not happen under Mr Bush.

When Mr Bush spoke on the road, the crowd admitted to hear him was cleansed and only his supporters were allowed in. The media worshipping at Mr Obama’s feet? I do not know what press you read or on what planet you get your news from, but this is ridiculous.

I do agree with you that there is growing uneasiness on some of the things Mr Obama has and has not done, and I am among that crowd. But after eight years of having to put up with disgusting policy, illegal wars, violation of the Constitution, and lies by our top officials, perhaps we are all a bit too jittery and need to cool down and give the man a chance. He has not even been in office for a year after all!

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By Kanamachi, September 11, 2009 at 2:17 am Link to this comment

“For the record I suspect that Obama’s race leads some of his critics to feel they
have permission to deny him the legitimacy, stature and common courtesy that
are any president’s due.” Boy, do I ever agree with this 100% and I am glad
someone is finally saying it loud and clear!

For many in the GOP and, unfortunately mostly GOP religious conservatives
from the south, race is their problem. Their actions since Obama became
president have shown me just how racist and out of the mainstream they are in
the GOP south. Most of these white men obviously feel that President Obama’s
race gives them permission to treat him like a sub human. Is this how they truly
feel about race, and now they just can’t control themselves because it is just
too much for them to handle; what with a Black becoming president? Are we to
believe that Rep. Wilson, simply could not control his mouth during the speech
by President Obama?

I used to pride myself on my independence in the voting booth and have on
occasion voted for a GOP candidate. But after these last two years I will never
vote for anyone with GOP after their names. I am fed up with the GOP’s
hypocrisy, prejudice, homophobia, and dirty lies. May they sink into oblivion
along with the hypocrites who two years ago called fellow Americans traitors
for not supporting President Bush, then turn around now and treat the
president as if he were there boy! It is just too much!

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By mike112769, September 11, 2009 at 12:55 am Link to this comment

Funny, the Dims did that to W and nobody seemed to care. The whole dimocratic side of the House booed the man during a State of the Union address. Where was your outrage then? I am far from a defender of the Shrub, but fair is fair. By the way, heckling our political leaders has been a pastime in this country since we were a colony. I agree with Commune, the media desperately needs to stop worshipping at the feet of Obama. He has sold us out, and he’s getting called on it. You haven’t even BEGUN to hear the boos yet.

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By Amy, September 11, 2009 at 12:25 am Link to this comment
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Democrats are forever striving for bipartisanship with their “friends across the aisle.”  I don’t understand why, when obviously the Republicans aren’t interested.  I wouldn’t have accepted Wilson’s so-called apology (he’s not sorry, he knew what he was doing).  Obama is much too nice.  Democrts are weak.

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By christian96, September 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm Link to this comment

I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Robinson.  Many
republicans acted like children pouting.  Rep. Joe
Wilson demonstrated a slight problems with his
temper.  Very childish!  You would like to think
we have more sensible people representing us
on Capitol Hill.  Well, forget that.  Being sensible
doesn’t get money stuffed in your bank account by
special interest groups.
I just listened to Dr. Andrew Weil on Larry King’s
program.  One of his concerns centered around
the high cost in the medical industry.  Another
concern was the high number of specialists in the
medical field and not enough generalists(family
doctors).  Of course this problem is again driven
by the money motive.  Generalists do not make as
much money as the specialists.
Dr. Weil’s greatest concern centered around the need
to place more emphasis on prevention of disease
rather than remediation of disease after it exists.
His means for accomplishing prevention primarily
involved educating students in school about the
parameters involed in prevention.  I thought of my
lone attempt to accomplish this objective around
1990 when I drove to Columbus, Ohio to speak before
the Ohio Board of Education about REQUIRING junior
high and high school students to take courses in
Child Development and Family Relations.  You have
to required the courses because if they are offered
as electives the students who need them most will
not elect to take them.  About halfway through my
presentation I was interupted by the President of
the Board who said, “Excuse me Doctor would you please summarize your points.  It is time for us to
go to lunch!”  He put his stomach before the children and families of Ohio.  My ideas were not
accepted.  I’ve often thought what family and societial problems might have been prevented in Ohio
if my ideas had been implemented in the State of
Ohio.  I’ll never know.  Now I reside in Florida.
Perhaps I should speak to the Florida Board of
Education.  Perhaps they would be more open to my
ideas.

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By Commune115, September 10, 2009 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment

Throughout the speech, there was grumbling, mugging and eye-rolling on the Republican side that was not only undignified but frankly un-American. When I was a correspondent in London, I covered far more raucous sessions of the British House of Commons—that’s how Parliament treats the prime minister, who is the head of government. In the United States, that simply is not how Congress treats the president, who is the head of state.

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What Wilson did was idiotic and the Republicans are on the wrong side of history, but there’s too much leader worship in this article. One reason REAL change rarely happens in America is precisely because of this worship of authority and rigid attitude of blindly following the guy speaking from the podium.

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By CaptRon, September 10, 2009 at 10:06 pm Link to this comment

The only Joe Wilson who called the President a liar and was correct was Valerie Plame’s husband and he didn’t do it publicly until forced. He also had his facts straight and was calling out the administration for committing treasonous acts. This latest bunch of idiots just still happen to be Republican. Makes me think the whole lot of them is corrupt. Why would Democrats want to bi-partisan anything with these people. The only Republicans I seem to trust have left the Republican Party for a different Party. They seem to be defecting in increasing numbers, no wonder why. Embarrassment would be enough alone.

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By Teresa, September 10, 2009 at 9:58 pm Link to this comment
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Mr. Robinson, this is a great opinion piece—as usual.  I’m the person
who yelled “I love you!” at you while crossing a street in DC (near the
MSNBC booth) the day before President Obama’s inauguration.  I meant it
then and mean it now!  grin  Thank you for your astute observations and
for telling it like it is.

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