Carol DW,

Agreed—- Cheney should be in prison—not out drumming to further a Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN Movement against liberals, when it was Cheney and his Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN Movement that caused all the problems in the nation in the first place.  The Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST REPUBLICANS may think the 70% MAJORITY Common Population is that stupid, but I think they will realize they have been there and done that and don’t want any more— ENOUGH REPUBLICANS already—anything but REPUBLICANS.

Cheney represents war profiteers (a tiny minority) and a handful of really crazy, rich people.
That hardly qualifies him to speak for Americans. It does not justify widespread media interest.
Most Americans despise Cheney and believe that he should be being interviewed from prison, if at all.
If this country can’t manage to put torturers and mass murderers behind bars, there isn’t much future for it.

Cheney represents war profiteers, a tiny minority, and a handful of really crazy, rich people.
That hardly qualifies him to speak for Americans. It does not justify widespread media interest.
Most Americans despise Cheney and believe that he should be being interviewed from prison, if at all.
If this country can’t manage to put torturers and mass murderers behind bars, there isn’t much future for it.

Cheney represents war profiteers, a tiny minority, and a handful of really crazy, rich people.
That hardly qualifies him to speak for Americans. It does not justify widespread media interest.
Most Americans despise Cheney and believe that he should be being interviewed from prison, if at all.
If this country can’t manage to put torturers and mass murderers behind bars, there isn’t much future for it.

Sorry - that should be international

“He represents the thinking of a significant number of conservatives who still believe that the United States is a unique and unrivaled global power that can bomb, invade, occupy and torture its way to security. The ancient Romans believed much the same.”

I think the goal is domination, not security, internation domination, domestic domination,  power and total control.

firefly,

Dick Cheney is a part of the RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREMIST MOVEMENT, which isn’t stupid, as Hitler said in “Mein Kampf”, it doesn’t matter that the liberals call us stupid, what matters is that the liberals fear the conservatives and the working people see and realize that the liberals fear the conservatives, then the conservatives gain control through fear.  The RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREMIST MOVEMENT is controlled by a Spirit of FEAR, that is promoted endlessly by the Right-Wing EXTREMIST minions in the media, etc.

There aren’t the words to adequately describe my feelings towards Cheney and his clan of stupid, arrogant and violent types. How nice it would be if they went off and formed a country of their own, which could be isolated and despised by a united world, leaving the rest of us to work towards a better, more civilized world for all humanity.

RE-ELECTING OBAMA

@ MarthaA, September 3 at 9:11 pm #
> My concern is that the RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREME REPUBLICANS will somehow be able to just ramrod Dick Cheney in like they did Bush, which would be most unfortunate for the nation.

It would be a lovely way to guarantee the no-Change, no-Hope candidate’s re-election. Just like putting up two muppets - McCain and Palin - and then having the US MSM undercut them at every opportunity.

Coincidence? After the last eight years, I think not.

WHO YA GOING TO ... TRUST?
Here we are nine months into Obama’s term. Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky called it _exactly_. Who are you going to trust in future?

Howard Zinn - October 22, 2008 - Zinn: “Vote for Obama but direct action needed.” Howard Zinn says real change will come when people take direct action to stop house foreclosures.

- http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2606

Noam Chomsky - October 20, 2008 - Chomsky: “In swing states vote Obama.” People should vote against McCain and for Obama - but without illusions.

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2593

Want Hope, Change? Zinn _and_ Chomsky _and_ every other progressive and his dog advise that it requires ‘direct action.’ - “The problem is not civil disobedience. The problem is civil obedience.” - Howard Zinn -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oRoQTwac9M#t=00m07s

Team Obama/Cult Obama, June 11th, 2009, by William Blum -

http://killinghope.org/bblum6/cultobama.html

William Blum - http://www.killinghope.org

Barack Obama and the Future of American Politics, by Paul Street -

http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Future-American-Politics/dp/1594516316

From ‘Books that counter our “training” to make war’ - 6 Aug 2009 - John Pilger -

http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=543

How bad can it get? This bad - Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Blackspeare,

How did YOU get so knowledgeable? Those buildings came down free fall, which could not have been done by anyone in Afghanistan. Maybe YOU, but I do not accept that someone from Tora Bora engineered precisely everything necessary to coincide perfectly with everything that was going on at the White House and with the military and fooled them all.  It is plain that Dr. Griffin and other specialists in the field are correct in their assessments—9/11/01 was an inside job, similar to when Hitler burned the Reichstag Building in Germany, that was also an inside job.

Blackspeare,

How did YOU get so knowledgeable? Those buildings came down free fall, which could not have been done by anyone in Afghanistan. Maybe YOU, but I do not accept that someone from Tora Bora engineered precisely everything necessary to coincide perfectly with everything that was going on at the White House and with the military and fooled them all.  It is plain that Dr. Griffin and other specialists in the field are correct in their assessments—9/11/01 was an inside job, similar to when Hitler burned the Reichstag Building in Germany, that was also an inside job and for the same reason.

MarthaA…

I love conspiracy theories, but not this one.  9/11 was a planned and executed foreign attack.  If you want to blame the USA for 9/11, then I would focus on the failure to stop it——as they say all the dots were there.  If you want to say that certain groups welcomed the attack and appropriately missed the dots——that’s a possibility, but direct sabotage—-NO!

“Either the threat is way overblown, the security is A-one, or the USA has become an effective police state!”

I would suggest, Blackspeare, that choice #3 is the answer in this case. “Sweet land of liberty” ... bull!

Blackspeare,

Could it be because 9/11 was an inside job?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3538037502590699697#

What is interesting is that there has not been a coordinated terrorist in the USA since 9/11.  You would think that a determined anti-USA group could have come up with something in 8 years.  Either the threat is way overblown, the security is A-one, or the USA has become an effective police state!

George Lucas was right. Cheney wasn’t ‘Darth Vader,’ he was (and still is) ‘The Emperor.’

How Ms. Cocco can decry Cheney *and* call for “staying the course” in Afghanistan (as in her previous op-ed) is beyond me. As David Sirota says in his column today, she must’ve mistaken a party for a movement ...

I’d also say she’s fallen into the trap the Psalmist warned us about: “Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help” (Psalm 146:3).

To don knutsen:
Why Cheney and the largely ‘invisible’ group of others were not prosecuted is another burning question that’s a thorn in the side of all fair minded people. We then conclude the justice system has failed us. Unconstitutional precedents were established by Dick Bush which are not being undone. The stage is being set for something, but what is that ‘something’? There are ominous clouds on the horizon. When the Intel/Military, Industry, Finance and our political system all become indistinguishably linked, such that, when a 911 or financial meltdown happens and truthful questions are not answered, and even blocked, then we conclude that it was orchestrated. The trail leads back to a compartmentalized elite group that won’t allow knowledge to be revealed. Why? Complicity at the highest levels would show system wide failure causing public panic leading to greater public insurrections. By default, we are living in a military dictatorship type of governing system which by its very nature, at the very core of it, has no real checks and balances left. Historically,the evidence is mounting for a kind of coup d’etat of our political system without the bloodshed, a velvet coup d’etat. American wage earners, especially higher wage earners would not risk a future career by asking the deep unanswered questions amongst their colleagues. I don’t blame them. If they ask important, controversial questions at work, they get their heads cut off. Chinese have known this wisdom for centuries. Stay out of politics or you’ll be the chicken that’s killed to scare the monkeys.

The outraged virgin routine is getting sooo lame…
Ignorance can’t be an excuse anymore !
Grow up America, face the horror done in your name !
http://www.mtwsfh.blogspot.com/

The Fifty Top U.S. War Criminals Who Need To Be
Prosecuted
http://current.com/items/90734516_the-fifty-top-u-s-
war-criminals-who-need-to-be-prosecuted.htm

Howard Zinn, John Perkins, Chomsky, Greg Palast…
Rings any bell ?

“Kid’s heads are filled with so many nonfacts that
when they get out of school they’re totally
unprepared to do anything.  They can’t read, they
can’t write, they can’t think.  Talk about child
abuse. The school system as a whole qualifies. Go to the library and educate yourself if you’ve got any guts… ” - Frank Zappa

EXECUTIVE RESUME
http://whitenoiserants.webnode.com/

My concern is that the RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE EXTREME REPUBLICANS will somehow be able to just ramrod Dick Cheney in like they did Bush, which would be most unfortunate for the nation.

Why so many people even listen to what this criminal has to say is beyond me.

The photo above is from the Gilbert and Sullivan operetta “The Sociopathic Mikado”.

Yes, Virginia, this is Obama’s war. It became Obama’s war when he decided to send more troops instead of bringing the troops home. You can’t blame uncle dick any more. He’s a powerless old fool who got away with crimes against humanity because Obama and the Deemocratic congress refuse to prosecute him.

I’m not afraid to say it, Cheney is certifiable and should be institutionalized instead of trotted out to fill our living rooms with his bizaare talk-a-thons.

It seems that Cheney, under Bush I, came under severe criticism from people, whose admiration he coveted, for not going to Baghdad and taking out Saddam before pulling out of Iraq.

Already suffering from a damaged ego due to his show of cowardice during Nam (5 very questionable deferments), in his head his pull-out of Iraq before going after Saddam was yet one more confirmation of his chicken-littleness.

Nevermind that 5 deferments and a free Saddam have no connection - they did and do in the garbled brain of Mr. Cheney.  It’s a safe guess that in his mind, torture, bombings, invasions, senseless killings…all are what will finally assuage his guilt (and he’s very concerned about his image in history which is afterall, but a record of wars.)

Marie Cocco actually agrees with Cheney that the US should escalate the Afpak war.  That is, that troops should be transferred from Iraq, a country of thirty million people, to fight the 50 million Pusthans on both sides of the Pakistan border, a country with 180 million people.  Since Pakistan has nuclear weapons, this is a far worse quagmire than Iraq.
this being so much against the interests of the American people, she diverts attention from policy agreement with Cheney with his support of torture.

Which Cocco also must support.  It is not possible to occupy a country and fight a war against the population without killing, raping and torturing the people.  This is the only way you can intimidate the people, who hate you, from joining the resistence in fighting you.  If we are going to have a war against a population, then torture is essential to that war, as it was in the French war in Algeria, detailed in the film BATTLE OF ALGIERS.  And in Vietnam.

This is a standard pseudo-Progressive strategy in the US, a Dem strategy, that emotionally confuses the mindset of the American people.  The pseudo-Progressie truth organs, like Truthdig, or the Washington Post or NYTimes, divert attention to how barbaric the Gops are while supporting the same policies.  The Dems are now Gop Lites, Obama continuing the wars, torture, and practices of the Bushites while pretending to promote Change You Can Believe In.

And they must do it with Gop support, as a piece in the NYTImes states today, since the Dem rank and file are increasingly opposed to it.  So Obama must become increasingly Bipartisan in punking the left.  And Dem truthers, like Marie Cocco, increasingly dishonest in selling out the Amereican people.  Which means that the American people must become increasingly sophisticated in distrusting their religious, political and intellectual leaders.

As the American power system rapidly sinks into barbarism.

A better link to find out where to go on October Seventh is http://www.answercoalition.org Lots of other local and national organizations will be participating, but ANSWER is the one with the most fire and the broadest vision. Get out there and make your voices heard!

Obama shills have to wheel out the evil Cheney every couple days now to deflect our attention from what our president is doing. The Democrats have held both houses of congress for 2 1/2 years now and Obama has been president for eight months. The killing has escalated under Obama and the torture and secrecy continues. It’s not Cheney’s war anymore, it’s not Bush’s war, and it’s not the Republicans war. It’s Obama’s war. I pity the poor Democrats when Cheney kicks off. They’re going to have to dig up his body and stuff it, so they can keep dragging it around to scare people with.

The anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan is coming up in October. People are going to be marching all over America to tell our government that we demand an end to this mess. go to http://www.answerla.org to find a demonstration near you.

peace now!