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The Science Fiction of Military MarketingPosted on Aug 28, 2009By David Sirota I’m a video game geek, so as I sat through movie previews a few weeks ago, I was sure I was watching Nintendo ads. There on the cinema’s screen was a super-sleek plane flying over a moonscape while communicating with an orbiting satellite. In the next moment, a multi-colored topographical map, orders being barked—and in my own mind, memories of “Call of Duty” graphics. And then, finally, two guys in front of a computer console, and the jarring punch line: “It’s not science fiction; it’s what we do every day,” said the bold type, followed by a U.S. Air Force symbol. Before giving the audience a chance to digest the slogan, it was onto another montage, this one of helicopters and explosions with 1970s music playing in the background. A preview for a Steve McQueen-themed game, I thought. Then, though, the familiar kicker: “The drones fight terrorism and protect America, and in the process, they keep the frontlines unmanned,” said the voiceover, adding, “This isn’t science fiction; this is life in the United States Navy.” The ads preceded “The Hurt Locker”—a dramatized movie about soldiers who defuse roadside bombs in the midst of Iraq’s horrifying carnage. And even with its fictionalized dialogue, the film was far more honest than the U.S. military’s fantastical sales pitch. Join the armed forces, the ads suggest, and you don’t have to experience the blood-and-guts consequences of combat. Instead, you get to hang out stateside, entertaining yourself with a glorified PlayStation. During this, one of the bloodiest months in the Afghanistan war, the spots promote a somewhat comforting, if disturbingly misleading, message—and it is aimed not just at potential soldiers, but also at the public at large. Advertisement For the general public, the objective is sedation. New polls show the country strongly opposes the Afghanistan and Iraq wars—but military officials want to preserve the possibility of an escalation in Afghanistan and a permanent deployment in Iraq. So along with persuading President Obama to withhold photos documenting fog-of-war brutalities at Afghanistan and Iraq prisons, the Pentagon is seeking an opiate to placate the war-averse populace. What better anodyne than a marketing campaign implying wars are fun video games? Certainly, the ads aren’t pure “science fiction.” As the armed forces build more unmanned drones, Popular Science magazine reports that recruiters are indeed looking to add new remote pilots. The “science fiction” is the specific assertion that “the frontlines are unmanned.” Claims like that are deeply destructive, beyond their obvious insult to the thousands killed, wounded and/or currently stationed on those very frontlines. For instance, it’s a good bet more than a few enlistees will expect their service to be happy video game tournaments, only to find themselves dodging real bullets in a Baghdad shooting gallery. More broadly, the American psyche’s slow progress toward an increasingly peaceful disposition could be stunted by the propaganda’s powerful paradox: While sanitizing ads play to the country’s growing disgust with militarism, they could ultimately lead us to be more supportive of militarism. How? By convincing us that violence can be just another innocuous expression of adolescent technophilia. If we end up thinking that, we will have once again forgotten what all wars, even the justifiable ones, always are: lamentable human tragedies. David Sirota is the author of the best-selling books “Hostile Takeover” and “The Uprising.” He hosts the morning show on AM760 in Colorado and blogs at OpenLeft.com. E-mail him at ds@davidsirota.com. © 2009 Creators.com New and Improved CommentsIf you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy. |
By KDelphi, September 3, 2009 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment
Leefeller—I dunno.But I think that women have more equal rights in Scandanavia than they do here…but, I think everything is better in Scandanavia.
I KNOW everything is better in Valhalla!! skol!
Report thisBy Leefeller, September 3, 2009 at 8:49 pm Link to this comment
Valhalla, seems to be the place, just was not sure of the spelling. For what it is worth, the Vikings gave women rights to take over inherit the land if the husband passed on to Valhalla. We are talking many years before the goat headers manual was written. Women s rights were in place back then with the Vikings, so what happened?
Report thisBy KDelphi, September 3, 2009 at 7:34 pm Link to this comment
Leefeller—I thought that they called it Valhalla!I am looking forward to it!
BYW—I was raised Republican..I guess there’s no accounting for assimilation huh? j/k I only hated ONE of my parents, too.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, September 3, 2009 at 2:04 pm Link to this comment
Actually it goes per oral testimony from a house of Burgesses speech in 1775.
“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”
Another favorite:
“Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles”.
Clearly, christian96 doesn’t appear to like competition.
Report thisBy psaltseller, September 3, 2009 at 11:47 am Link to this comment
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>>>Patrick Henry—-Give you liberty or give you
death. It will be the latter. Followed by
the judgment. I’ll spare you what follows
the judgment. <<<
You can cherrypick your Holy Book (or mine, or anybody else’s) all you want, but could you kindly NOT mess with history? Patrick Henry is reported to have said (in a meeting where minutes where not kept) “I know not what course others may take, but give me Liberty of give me death.” Whatever he really said, and there is a whole body of scholarship on that, he did submit a formal letter regretting and “intemperate speech” a few days later.
As to Judgment, I’ll stick with the two questions the Baal Shem Tov suggested we would be asked at the end of days: “What did you do with the gifts I gave you? How did you treat the people I sent you to love?”
Report thisBy Magginkat, September 2, 2009 at 8:00 pm Link to this comment
Thanks heavens for small favours…....
Report thisI repeat, religion is the greatest hoax every pulled on human kind. Please feel free to believe that bad science fiction and don’t worry about my eternity. With a little luck I will be fertilizer for a nice plant. You should be so lucky.
By christian96, September 2, 2009 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment
Magginkat—-The socalled “rapture” is a hoax that
Report thismade some people a lot of money. Judging by your
comments I don’t think you have to worry about
spending eternity with me. Unless you repent and
are welcomed into the fold for ETERNITY! Whew, that
is a long time!
By Leefeller, September 2, 2009 at 7:14 am Link to this comment
If one is to spend eternity with 27 Virgins or Christian96, seems more a choice of what religion would prefer to choose?
Eternity or the afterlife as the Vikings called it, may be more preferred by me, having my sword, my slaves a boat and booze,seems most real? Guess the idea is to choose ones religion for the perks.
One must realize, most people do not get to choose a religion, they assimilate religion like osmosis, sort of like being gay or Republican, no reason involved.
Report thisBy Magginkat, September 2, 2009 at 5:10 am Link to this comment
A final question - - How many readers here would look forward to spending an eternity with Christian96?
Personally, I cannot fathom a worse hell!
Report thisBy Magginkat, September 2, 2009 at 5:07 am Link to this comment
ATTN: Christian96—-Religion is the greatest hoax ever pulled on humankind. But just in case you are correct here is a web site that you should not miss.
http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/
Atheists have kindly offered to care for Christians’ pets after the Rapture. According to their brochure - All atheists signed up by Eternal Earth-Bound Pets are self-confessed sinners and blasphemers, guaranteeing they will be left behind when the chosen are selected. For $110, they promise lifetime care for almost all domestic pets if their owners are transported to heaven within the next ten years. Just keep in mind….No refunds!
Report thisHow great is that!
By PatrickHenry, September 2, 2009 at 3:29 am Link to this comment
christian96, now your being ignorant of me.
Report thisBy christian96, September 1, 2009 at 10:18 pm Link to this comment
Ourraged—-We are fine. As long as we can
confess our ignorance we are a much better
person for it.
Patrick Henry—-Give you liberty or give you
Report thisdeath. It will be the latter. Followed by
the judgment. I’ll spare you what follows
the judgment.
By Outraged, September 1, 2009 at 9:51 pm Link to this comment
Re: christian96
Your comment: “You are ignorant! There is nothing wrong with being ignorant.”
Wonderful. Now we’re on the same page! It’s okay with me….. is it okay with you? I prefer it this way, as I suppose you prefer it your way. Are we all good then?
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, September 1, 2009 at 3:52 pm Link to this comment
By christian96, September 1 at 5:42 pm #
So you know the big picture huh?
I don’t take much faith in those who proselytize out of the blue and insinuate that only they know the truth and the way and rest of us mere mortals are ignorant to that fact.
Agent for jesus your not.
Report thisBy christian96, September 1, 2009 at 10:42 am Link to this comment
rfidler—-As long as there exists ignorant people
Report thissuch as yourself about spiritual forces controling your life it is my DUTY to educate you about the
truth. Rejection, denial, and ridicule will not
stop the evil forces. Only the truth. Wake up,
smell the roses, and enjoy a trip into eternity.
By felicity, September 1, 2009 at 9:22 am Link to this comment
Speaking of Science Fiction, this from my latest Harper’s - “The US military reported progress in its cyborg-insect program and in building robots that can power themselves by eating the bodies of those they kill: the developers have promised that all EATR robots will be told not to eat people.”
So comforting to know that this monstrous invention and who knows what else are not only absorbing 50% of our discretionary federal budget, we fully intend to be waging wars far into the future, the more horrifying and horrific the better.
Report thisBy rico, suave, September 1, 2009 at 7:05 am Link to this comment
christian96:
Oh, please! Listen to NZDoug and grow up! This really isn’t the blog for you.
Report thisBy christian96, September 1, 2009 at 5:23 am Link to this comment
NZDoug—-You are ignorant! There is nothing wrong
Report thiswith being ignorant. All people are. I’m ignorant
about nuclear physics. But your particular type of
ignorance is dangerous. After your test on earth is
finished you risk eternal damnation. Can’t you see
that all people have committed sins? Why do you
think that condition exists? Your ONLY vacine against eternal damnation is to accept the fact that
Yeshua(Jesus) came to earth to suffer and die for
your(our) sins. Once you accept him as your personal saviour, begin to study his teachings, and
live by them you are vacinated against eternal
damnation. You will receive eternal life. The life
after your test on earth will be without pain, sorrow, and suffering. Satan has blinded your eyes
against the vacination. Ask Yeshua to send the
Holy Spirit to help you do the will of Yeshua and
overcome the evil designs of Satan. It is the most
important decision in your life. WAKE UP!
By NZDoug, September 1, 2009 at 2:20 am Link to this comment
Christian 96,
Report thisis it true that there are religeous nutters in America?
Did the Easter Bunny die for our sins?
Grow up and get real.
By PatrickHenry, August 31, 2009 at 3:48 pm Link to this comment
By rfidler, August 31 at 6:29 pm #
The Pentagon was broken up into 5 “wedges” each totally gutted, asbestos removed and refurbished.
We did the basement initially.
WTOP is just a news station which obstensibly, spouts Israel first reporting with daily commentary from JTA, JWC etc. The muslims are always portrayed as terrorists and there is never anything critical of Israel reported. The editorials are as right wing as they come and I would put WTOP on a par with FOX news. Their traffic reporting is pretty good though. Too bad this is what our congress critters listen to 24/7 with little in the way of viable competition in the Washington DC radio market.
I can’t tell you why the government responded the way it did, but I’m sure many, many reacted as they should have and weren’t “in on it”. as you imply.
Listen to alot of Glenn Beck do you? I watched him once along time ago and usually surf through his BS when it presents itself.
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 31, 2009 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment
PatrickHenry:
I don’t know what the “Wedge 1 Project” was but you make it sound so mysterious and cool.
Everyone knows the Pentagon was under the rennovation project you allude to and they say it saved a lot of lives. (Why would the government plan an attack on itself and at the same time undertake a construction project designed to minimize its effects?)
WTOP is just a news station. You must mean WMAL.
If the government set up the whole thing, why would they send F-16s to STOP the airliner ostensibly meant for the Capitol Building!!
“I love my country but I don’t trust my government.”- you sound like Glenn Beck.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, August 31, 2009 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment
By rfidler, August 31 at 8:15 am #
I was one of the Project Managers for the Pentagon Wedge 1 project whose men had pulled off that job 2 weeks prior to the plane hitting. Only a small contingent of construction workers were in the Navy offices performing punch list items.
I was in my office listening to WTOP (that bastion of zionist blather) when the 1st plane hit the WTC, after the second plane hit I took notice and the reporter stated that a third plane was being shadowed by (2) F-16’s in Pennsylvannia and was headed for Washington DC. It was then reported that they shot down the airliner with missles. This was real time and there was no time for coverup stories, which of course came later.
A couple of months prior to the plane hitting, a change order came out reinforcing the E ring wall against blast, the windows were changed out at $10,000 apiece and 4x4 channel was erected on the inside against the outer wall in a cross bracing fashion. Someone should be commended for their foresight.
The Phoenix project had all repairs completed within a year with hundreds of workers working 24/7 to complete the rework.
I believe the entire 9/11 event should be reinvestigated as the 15 million spent was woefully inadequate and the investigations conducted by many private (therefore more professional) interests have uncovered information not available at the initial inquest.
I love my country but I don’t trust my government.
Report thisBy Susan, August 31, 2009 at 10:01 am Link to this comment
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ChaoticGood - The scary thing is, No, we don’t know it. People in my own family whom I thought were intelligent are so HYPNOTIZED by their IPODS and google-gadgets, they can’t see what’s going on in the Real world. I can’t even discuss NWO with them without them thinking Im nuts. Lose a family, learn the truth. Their loss, not mine.
Report thisBy KDelphi, August 31, 2009 at 9:50 am Link to this comment
rfidler—As I say, I can understand it being a “sore ” personal point with you.
I would diasagree with you about Folktruther and ardee, whom (you can ask!) I dont always agree with…it is good that you want to debate “the other side”, but, surely you dont expect alot of sympathy for the pentagon at a “left-leaning” website…you also surely know that people that dont trust the govt are not specifically aiming any vitriolic remarks towards your deceased friends.
There are alot of very smart people who post here , and, many I disagree with very strongly. Everyone is a serious thinker—they just think differently than you do!
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 31, 2009 at 9:36 am Link to this comment
KDel:
I wasn’t accusing you of being one of the “truthers”. Sorry if you got that impression. Thanks for the condolences.
On a broader theme, the reason I hang out on this website is because I really do want to know what the “other half” thinks, and how they think. I’ve identified a few (very few) serious thinkers whom I’m trying to get into rational debates with, but with limited success. Most are dilettants who resort to immediate personal attacks, a la Folktruther. Some, like ardee, don’t think I’m serious. With you, I got off on the wrong foot. I know you and I are worlds apart on so many levels. Yet I want to get your serious, non-hyperventilated opinions about the things you care about.
Report thisBy KDelphi, August 31, 2009 at 8:50 am Link to this comment
rfidler—One—thank you, no I am not, but, thats the good ole USA for you…
Second, that is precisely what I was asking—if you were THERE, I thought maybe you KNOW exactly what (the f*ck)happened and could dispell some rumors I’ve had floating around in my head, considering all the ones I’ve heard! I dont assume that , just because we disagree, that we would disagree on facts. I am sorry for your losses. I guess that would make one very touchy about the issue.
You are assuming that I think neo-cons bombed the Pentagon and WTC—I never said any such thing. Unless I see proof that our own govt did it, I an inclined to believe that they didnt (notice I said DIDNT—not necessary wouldnt). I am not certain that we will ever know what really happened—I am not certain that the govt does. But, no, I dont think that the Pentagon bombed themselves. I sure as hell wasnt accusing your friends of being ‘in on it”, not you. But, like I say, I do understand that it would be a touchy subject.
That being said, the Pentagon is not a civilian building. I would never advocate violence on civilians, or anyone, except in self defense.
Report thisBy Leefeller, August 31, 2009 at 7:38 am Link to this comment
Sedating the masses to accept programed violence to be a similar pleasant daily experience, as a drive in the park does seem what movies support. Spewing death and destruction for those popcorn eaters. What of love and peace and of course the always unacceptable sex, one needs alleged maturity for that.
sex is taboo, the big no, no sort of don’t ask don’t tell of reality, another hypocrisy sponsored by a sick society. Killing is good and acceptable, sex is not to be talked about, seen or heard. Of course there is porn, but what of reality?
Funny, in the end most people end up preforming sex, but not the death and destruction, so the games of life promote death, as a seemingly bible thumping, gun toting nation who can induce shock and awe, but cannot come close to showing compassion or enlightenment, seems very sick and shallow. In the end, one only needs to follow the money.
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 31, 2009 at 5:15 am Link to this comment
KDelphi:
First, I hope you’re feeling better and that you’re getting the care you need.
Second, “Were you working at the Pentagon on 9/11? WTF happened?” Bear with me.
All summer long I had been flying Flight 77 from Dulles to LA. In September, I needed to change my schedule, so I flew out of National Airport to Dallas and back instead. At 8:10AM on Tuesday 9/11/01 I took off out of National and the departure path took me over Dulles. I looked down and saw flight 77 taxing out for takeoff. Charles Burlingame, a friend of mine, was the Captain of flight 77. His copilot and several of the flight attendants were also friends. He picked that schedule so he could meet his family in LA to celebrate his birthday and go to a LA Angels game that night. A little over an hour later Burlingame, and a hundred or so more people in the plane and at the Pentagon were dead. By that time, I was cruising over Little Rock, Arkansas. Air traffic control came on the radio and told everybody they had to land NOW- no reason- just land. It wasn’t until we landed at Memphis with a planeload of pissed off passengers that we learned the reason why. As we waited for a gate to unload our passengers, we heard that the WTC towers had fallen.
I went to four funerals the following week for my fellow crewmembers. Their coffins were not empty. The airplane that was flight 77 is no longer in the American Airlines inventory.
You tell me WTF happened. Let’s leave aside for a minute who hijacked the plane and why. We can argue that til the cows come home.
What REALLY puts me in a blind rage are the flaming lunatic morons out there who say there was no airplane wreckage, no passenger bodies at the Pentagon site. That it was a missile fired by the neocons for chrissake!
Just think about how many people would have to be involved in a conspiracy to create an alternate set of facts other than those of that day. It’s said that the ability to keep a secret decreases exponentially with the number of people charged with keeping it. I believe that.
KDelphi, where are my friends if they’re not in cemeteries in Virginia and Maryland?
Report thisBy christian96, August 31, 2009 at 4:43 am Link to this comment
NZDoug—-According to the Bible, Satan is the prince
Report thisof the air. Which flag are you going to be waving?
We’ll be watching?
By NZDoug, August 31, 2009 at 1:53 am Link to this comment
I just want to go to an aIR ShOw and wAvE my fLag
Report thisBy psaltseller, August 30, 2009 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment
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>>>>A report from Afghanistan about a soldier who was shocked how different real combat was so from the video game combat that enticed him to join the military. <<<
Young men who were sent to North Africa in WWII were shocked to find out it had little to do with what they had seen in films and newsreels.
Young men who were convinced Korea was going to be a piece of cake, had a rather rude awakening.
One of my Army colleagues was absolutely aghast to find out that, along with bicycles and sandals, the Army of North Vietnam had tanks, SAMs, and aircraft.
As the education level, and general awareness, of entry-level troops continues to decline, we are having to deal with a whole flock of young men and women who are shocked to at having been exposed to the realities of the profession of arms.
Report thisBy Psaltseller, August 30, 2009 at 9:55 pm Link to this comment
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Reference ardee’s comments:
>>>The pentagon never has to work within a budget, as does most of the rest of the world. The military contractors put on luxurious junkets and show exotic toys at exorbitant prices..but you already know all this. Try to focus though I understand you set a difficult task for yourself defending the indefensible.<<<
Obviously, you have never worked at the Puzzle Palace, nor in a military organization. Budgets truly do exist, and it’s worth the careers of the people in charge to be over or under at the end of the year. Go over budget, and you get clobbered for not anticipating expenses. Go under budget, and our masters in Congress assume you padded your initial requests. BTW, for most projects, it’s two years or more to get funds approval, and you don’t get to adjust for inflation.
Just to make things interesting, your current operating budget gets “adjusted” on a quarterly basis. During the Reagan/Bush I era, for example, we took about ten percent per year in cuts.
Political appointees get to go to the Government Contractor parties. As a military logistician, later as contracting officer, it was worth my job to be seen at any of those functions.
I’m frequently baffled by otherwise well-informed people who have yet to grasp that The Pentagon is a very big building holding three entirely dissimilar functions. The military contingent provides administrative, management, and headquarters-level support for the the branches of services within the DoD. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is, by law, the senior advisor to the President on military affairs. The second contingent, made up of political appointees and their staff, functions as administrators to the Pentagon and the various military headquarters and (primarily) coordinate military policy with the political policy of the Administration currently in power. Finally, there is a vast staff of career Civil Servants who make the whole thing go. Occasionally, these three groups move in the same direction. Usually, they do not.
I served during two formal war-type adventures and a few unofficial situations that featured people shooting at me. I know very few people who, with similar experiences, think that there is much value in any combat that does not have a clear and present connection to the preservation of the Republic and the Constitution.
Most career military types will tell you that the reason the locals in “pajamas” or in khaki shorts or in djellabas or in burkas tend to win is simple: they are defending their territory and, as far as they are concerned, they are on the side of freedom.
Nobody has ever defeated a guerrilla force. In the immortal word of Cornwallis, one cannot fight a map.
Generals do not start wars in our system, nor do Admirals, nor Majors, nor even Chief Master Sergeants. Presidents start wars, usually encouraged by various elements within the civilian community who will, themselves, never have to participate, nor send their sons and daughters.
Report thisBy politicky, August 30, 2009 at 6:50 pm Link to this comment
Thank you Mr. Sirota. I don’t know what I would have done a few years ago without your writings and radio work.
Report thisBy Jon, August 30, 2009 at 5:46 pm Link to this comment
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I was channel surfing and came across that crazy guy on the History Channel who is a retired Marine and loves guns and blowing things up. I watched part of the program, and suddenly it occurred to me that we have a military industrial complex that overdevelops war hardware and computer networks, and that none of this protected us from 9-11.
Furthermore, can you imagine if the country was focused on education and health care and ‘business development’ with a budget as large as DOD gets as a matter of course?
Here’s were we’re going in my view: a military hardware, computing, robotics, and ‘protection’ supplier to the world (which the world happily pays for, since we have 750 bases worldwide, and the best equipment) with a fraction of the US population engaged in either production/design or in the services, with the rest of the population engaged in low wage service sector jobs. We sell America’s might to those who can afford it, and those in the US who work for the military network are well paid and have benefits, and the rest of Americans live poorly. If this isn’t so, then why is a lot of consumer stuff outsourced, why are wages falling, and why is health care such a huge speed bump?
Just some thoughts.
Report thisBy Russian Paul, August 30, 2009 at 5:34 pm Link to this comment
Todd, I would usually never advocate corporal punishment, but it sounds like your
Report thisson needs a good smack or two. Or at least smash that brainwashing video game
system of his. You only have yourself to blame for allowing him to play a mindless
game that basically trains kids to kill Arabs. You are part of the problem, raising a
little shit like that.
By toddboyle, August 30, 2009 at 3:58 pm Link to this comment
My 14 year old son is an XBox addict… he put his own face in the game. It’s amazingly realistic, you have to find a 14 year-old to show you this stuff…
Rainbow 6 is a first person shooter game that lets kids replace the face of their killer with their own face by uploading a picture from their cellphone.. now they can all recognize their friends while they are talking and playing on the internet. XBox gives them easy multiconferencing, they do it all day. Why don’t WE have that????
Rainbow 6 is basically a military game, like most of the other FP shooter games. It features a bunch of killers running wild in some city in the desert killing “terrorists”. And all the players faces and hair, etc. look exactly like kids in the neighborhood, attached to these beefy special forces carrying RPGs etc.. When I try to talk with my son, for the last several years he just says shutup, I’m busy, go away, etc. you faggot, you hippie, etc.
When you come to Seattle, count on me for volunteer support on publicity, lighting and sound and videography.
Report thisBy BigEasy, August 30, 2009 at 11:28 am Link to this comment
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Americans like war. They do it all the time. Read your history books. As difficult as it is to accept, America will always have a large group in its population happy to kill another human being for no reason whatsoever. Of course, that segment of the populace has an IQ around 85 but they look really swift in a uniform. Remember Planet of the Apes? You are living it my friend.
Report thisBy KDelphi, August 30, 2009 at 10:10 am Link to this comment
rfidler—the link I gave to Rebel Reports is Jeremy Scahill’s website. You can choose not to believe it, but you cant say i didnt site a source.
I think he is the bravest military investigative reporter we have going.
Were you working at the Pentagon on 9/11? WTF happened?
Report thisBy Maezeppa, August 30, 2009 at 9:13 am Link to this comment
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Ah, but the Nintendo games are part of the engineering recommended to the commerce sector by the Pentagon in the first place! The military knows the ideal killers are 14 year old males. By the time they are of age to kill for real, they’ve often already had about 10,000 hours of the requisite reflex training.
Report thisBy Susan, August 30, 2009 at 7:57 am Link to this comment
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I’m convinced that when moles participate in these blogs, they perpetuate discord and in-fighting among the bloggers. I used to respond to them, but realize it is just playing into their agenda. The method for disassembling NWO (though we DO have help from unseen forces) is to not engage in the negative energy they are known to feed off of…..........
Report thisBy retouching, August 30, 2009 at 6:39 am Link to this comment
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It is a known fact that Hollywood films about war are subsidized by the US military. Great photo blog with quality articles!
Report thisBy bogi666, August 30, 2009 at 6:16 am Link to this comment
rfidler, you’re absolutely right i was totally out of line and apologize for it. He’s an investigative reporter whose written several books an article about Blackwater and other corruption by private contractors in Iraq. I will mind my manners and apply appropriate internet etiquette unless the occasion requires otherwise. Jeremy can be accessed on the net. As for the Terminator Drones, if you’re on the ground in AfPak and you’re about or have been attacked by a drone, it’s a Terminator Drone. It’s called empathy.
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 30, 2009 at 6:08 am Link to this comment
bogi:
Who is Jeremy Scahill? And since when is asking you to support an assertion a “psycho tactic”? You obviously live in an echo chamber surrounded by unquestioning bootlickers.
Report thisBy bogi666, August 30, 2009 at 5:32 am Link to this comment
rfidler, it was reported by Jeremy Scahill. Just because you don’t know it doesn’t mean it’s unknown, it’s a known known, according to Rummy. Seems like you watch FOX and apply their 10th rate psycho tactics. Go for the 1st rate psycho’s check out Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and Goering on the internet, they were 1st rate psycho’s.
Report thisBy christian96, August 30, 2009 at 12:02 am Link to this comment
Marketing for a “Few Good Men” goes far beyond the
Report thisviolence depicted in computer games. If I had the
time and desire I would study the violence depicted
in movies and television programs during a time the
Pentagon is searching for a “Few Good Men.” It wouldn’t suprise me if the Pentagon was somehow
behind violent sporting events such as football
since they are attempting to produce violent fighting men to go kill men, women, and chilren in
foreign nations in order for multi-national corporations to get their products into those nations. However, if you notice the advertisers
during violent sporting events you will discover
they are usually pushing their beer products. Mothers against drunk driving should expose the
devious beer companies who try to associate “manhood” with drinking beer. Just more
deception from the business world.
By Tholin, August 29, 2009 at 9:51 pm Link to this comment
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From the commercial:
remote controller: Titan 14, hold your position.
Titan 14: Whadaya got?
remote controller: unmanned aircraft is identifying enemy sniper.
Titan 14: Copy that - let’s MOVE!
Report thisSure hope the command control is better than that when we’re vaporizing “enemies”.
By Psaltseller, August 29, 2009 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment
In the all-volunteer force, the military is frequently having to run remedial reading programs just to bring the current crop of high school grads up to a basic level of literacy. So appealing to people who, if they can’t read very well, can at least interact with a games console, makes some sense.
There was a time when recruiting appealed to a sense of duty. Now, it’s a matter of “what’s in it for me?” We have Reservists and Guard troops who want to get out (after multiple years of drawing a paycheck) because they “only joined to get money for college and job training, not leaving my family and maybe getting killed).
Was it idiotic to declare war on a tactic, and then put poorly equipped troops into locations that had as much to do with the War on Terror as they did the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, the War on Ignorance, the War on Cancer, the War on Inflation, and the War on Those rude People Who Hold Loud Cell-Phone Conversations in the Middle of a Restaurant? OF COURSE IT WAS!!
Does trying to get people who are less likely to repeat the errors of the past 6 years make some sense? I would submit it does. At the very least, it couldn’t hurt.
Report thisBy ardee, August 29, 2009 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment
rfidler, August 29 at 1:31 pm #
ardee:
“Our military minds are hooked on excessive profit…”
I spent over twenty years surrounded by military minds and I can guarantee you that “profit” let along “excessive profit” was the last thing on their minds. The Pentagon doesn’t make money, it spends it, and only after Congress gives it to them to spend. If the Pentagon is full of war profiteers, then I’m suing! I didn’t get my cut while I was in it!
The pentagon never has to work within a budget, as does most of the rest of the world. The military contractors put on luxurious junkets and show exotic toys at exorbitant prices..but you already know all this. Try to focus though I understand you set a difficult task for yourself defending the indefensible.
“Our citizens are coerced by appeals to testosterone.” Coerced into doing what? Allow me to hold you to the standard you ask of others- give me proof of your assertion.
Methinks you refuse to think….This is such an obvious answer that I believe you disingenuous pretending not to understand flag waving appeals to uber-patriotism, demonizing the “enemy” and mixing it all up in a brew of “love your country”.
“...the efforts of Scotland Yard to pursue IRA terrorists.” I wonder if the IRA thought that Scotland Yard’s techniques were fair and just.
If you continue to rattle off the mark nonsense no real conversation will be possible. Whatt eh fuck does the IRA, or its freaking opinion have to do with a decision, a legitimate one in my opinion, to use police to defend a nation against terrorist tactics?
Look rfidler If you cannot debate at a level of maturity above that you have so far demonstrated please simply ignore my stuff, I will cretainly return the favor.
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, August 29, 2009 at 2:32 pm Link to this comment
Terminator robots are next.
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 29, 2009 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment
localhero:
How many jet pilots do you know? Can you cite any studies proving your assertion that they are “frighteningly emotionally stunted, arrested adolescents continuing to play soldier”? If you can’t, then shut up.
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 29, 2009 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment
bogi666:
That there is even such a thing as a “Terminator Drone” is problematic, but for the sake of the discussion, let’s say there is. Please provide proof that Blackwater, or any other private contractor operates them with the mission of murdering people. Otherwise, shut up.
Report thisBy LocalHero, August 29, 2009 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment
Jet noise. The sound of frighteningly emotionally stunted, arrested adolescents continuing to play soldier long after their peers have, around the age of 8, grown out of such childish pursuits. It’s the sound of freedom all right. The freedom to never grow up.
Report thisBy redspades, August 29, 2009 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment
Make love, not war.
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 29, 2009 at 10:31 am Link to this comment
ardee:
“Our military minds are hooked on excessive profit…”
I spent over twenty years surrounded by military minds and I can guarantee you that “profit” let along “excessive profit” was the last thing on their minds. The Pentagon doesn’t make money, it spends it, and only after Congress gives it to them to spend. If the Pentagon is full of war profiteers, then I’m suing! I didn’t get my cut while I was in it!
“Our citizens are coerced by appeals to testosterone.” Coerced into doing what? Allow me to hold you to the standard you ask of others- give me proof of your assertion.
“...the efforts of Scotland Yard to pursue IRA terrorists.” I wonder if the IRA thought that Scotland Yard’s techniques were fair and just.
Report thisBy bogi666, August 29, 2009 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
The U.S. government and President Obushama are contracting out murder to firm like Blackwater operating the Terminator Drones. What this does is to nullify the Geneva convention and all the other treaties of conduct the U.S. government has agreed to because atrocities are being outsourced to the private sector which is unaccountable.
Report thisBy ardee, August 29, 2009 at 5:13 am Link to this comment
rfidler, August 28 at 7:38 pm #
ardee:
That seems to be the main difference between cons and libs- whether it’s a military or a law enforcement problem. Our military minds are still hooked on uniforms and battle formations, etc and are flummoxed by locals in pajamas and flip-flops who blow up there toys.
Our military minds are hooked on excessive profit engendered by endless war. Our citizens are coerced by appeals to testosterone.
On the other hand, telling a captured roadside bomber that he has a right to remain silent, yada-yada, can’t really be the answer either. What to do?
A rather dismissive argument for avoiding useless war in favor of good police work. I would recommend that you read about the efforts of Scotland Yard to pursue IRA terrorists as well as the Surete engaging the Algerians. Both were highly successful, far more than were troops on foreign soil ( well Ireland isnt foreign certainly but my point remains.
The problem with police action is that it just isnt profitable enough.
Report thisBy Leefeller, August 28, 2009 at 9:06 pm Link to this comment
Just watched one of my favorite movies, Blazing Saddles again, my favorite scene is when they describe the towns folks as simple country folks and these folks just do not know any better, then in unison say while laughing “and they are Morons”. We are living in Blazing Saddles, observe the Limbaugh and Palins of the world to see blatant disconnects from reality, hope is not an option as the Morons fly.
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 28, 2009 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment
ardee:
That seems to be the main difference between cons and libs- whether it’s a military or a law enforcement problem. Our military minds are still hooked on uniforms and battle formations, etc and are flummoxed by locals in pajamas and flip-flops who blow up there toys. On the other hand, telling a captured roadside bomber that he has a right to remain silent, yada-yada, can’t really be the answer either. What to do?
Report thisBy rico, suave, August 28, 2009 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment
Magginkat:
Jet noise. The sound of freedom. Get used to it.
Report thisBy ChaoticGood, August 28, 2009 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment
A few comments:
“Skynet” is alive and well.
Robot drones patrol the sky.
Ground based Robot killers are the shock troops.
US will announce scramjet low orbit fighters.
Human deaths are just numbers in the game.
Hypersexed advertising aimed at gamers will work.
Report thisBut we all know this…don’t we?
By KDelphi, August 28, 2009 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment
I am certain it has been spoken in the halls of the military industrial complex that a shitty economy and private charter shcools (Junior ROTC—yes youre paying for it, uniforms and all—and Obama’s Arne Duncan is pushing for more privitization which creates more
“need” for these progranms in inner cities) will provide enough young recruits.
If that doesnt work,, who needs troops? We can just borrow more money against ourselves and send private contractors. We have almost 250,000 now…Obama increased them. (Blackwater is in court in Va today trying to get their cases dismissed btw..)http://rebelreports.com/
“The Department of Defense has released an updated census of Pentagon contractors deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and CENTCOM’s area of operations. The overall number of contractors in the third quarter of 2009 increased slightly from 243,000 to 244,000, which means that private forces continue to constitute about half of the total US force deployed in these two wars…..
Two other statistics jump out. First, in Iraq, the DoD reports that there was “a 19 % increase (from 10,743 to 13,232) of armed DoD PSCs in Iraq compared to the 2nd quarter FY 2009 census.”
http://rebelreports.com/post/171408295/u-s-increasing-use-of-private-contractors-in-war-zone
(report quoted above)
And , if privatye mercenaires dont want to risk their brave asses, they can do it from Las vegas:(no offense to good people in Las Vegas)
“Obama Administration Uses Blackwater in Drone Killings
The Obama administration has carried over from the Bush administration Blackwater’s critical role in the use of the remote-controlled Predator drones that have killed many civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, a Friday report by the New York Times reveals. The drones’ purported purpose is to assassinate Al Qaeda leaders. Their deployment in Pakistan is in clear violation of international law, as the US has never declared war on the South Asian state.
There exists no substantive distinction between the Bush administration’s hiring of Blackwater to carry out “targeted assassinations” in Iraq with snipers and ambushes, and the Obama administration’s farming out to the military security firm its drone assassination program in the “Af-Pak theater,” whose victims have consisted predominantly of civilians.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/aug2009/blac-a22.shtml
Report thisBy Jean Gerard, August 28, 2009 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment
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What happened to “Eulenspiegel’s” comment. Every moment counts!
Report thisBy Jean Gerard, August 28, 2009 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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EULENSPIEGEL’S HALLOWE’EN
We make microscopes to peek at tiny marvels
and telescopes to scan enormities bit by bit,
yet the human eye is strangely sightless
when it comes to preventing manmade horrors.
Intimidated by experts, we tap a cane ahead
and step into nuclear war, pollution, fearsome
flirtations that risk the earth’s fragility.
We leave it up to think tanks to persuade,
and government to steal from sick, sad, needy
people in order to endow NASA whose jet
propulsions at this very moment have
already rocketed to bomb the world’s moon.
Without asking anyone’s okay, it will orbit
till October 9, then explode in a crater, and 350
tons of debris will rise. Lack of “a decent respect for the opinion of mankind” marks this venture
as curiosity gone wild—a “because we can”
urge to exploit, to penetrate, that is truly
vile and selfish. Yet objection seem foolhardy,
so acceptable has aggression become.
I feel a deep despair. My soul is ill-at-ease.
Report thisSuch an invasion, dressed up as science or truth,
is actually rape of the Mother of Evening, friend
of wolves and lovers, keeper of time and tide.
By cognitis1, August 28, 2009 at 10:50 am Link to this comment
US’ use of military robots provides an example of US
Report thisas a Japanese client-state: just as US military
depends on Japan for robots and electrical components
and composite materials, it also depends similarly on
Japan for financing military incursions and military
occupations. To predict US’ future use of military
robots or future incursions and occupations, don’t
bother considering US populace’s interests but rather
the commodity interests of Japan: indisputably US
populace never had any interest in consuming hundreds
of billions of its taxes for occupations that
provided it no benefit, but US occupation averted
colonial rage from Japan and also secured Japan’s
crude oil imports: Japan imports twice as much as oil
than US from Persian Gulf, yet virtually no Japanese
have suffered injury or died in either Iraq or
Afghanistan. Japan exports high-value-added robots
and components and composite materials as well as
capital in its own interests not the interests of the
US populace; US bureaucrats and politicians like
Geithner and Pelosi are just venal servants.
By LocalHero, August 28, 2009 at 10:43 am Link to this comment
I, too, have sat through the military propaganda music videos (by talent-less, jingoistic nitwits like Kid Rock) that precede films at the multi-plex and, as I sit there, I wonder how many people in the audience are swelling with pride at the same garbage I’m watching with utter disgust. I probably don’t want to know.
Report thisBy Night-Gaunt, August 28, 2009 at 9:55 am Link to this comment
Children make the best soldiers because they have yet to develop a fear of death or of an understanding of it and causing it in others. Video games maintains that disconnect which makes the remote Reaper and Predator pilots that much more removed from what they do. Even more so than the bombers were in WWII. [Howard Zinn was one and he wanted to connect to what he had done and it changed him for the better.] Those pilots have a 9 to 5 job where they go home every night! So the disconnect for them is complete.
Just wait till they deploy fully armored and armed robots to augment ground troops who are also armored. They can be “force multipliers” making a 7 man platoon equal to two or three or more. Along with aerial surveillance and those who are armed with missiles to give them support linked to satellite based systems completes the picture of a fully realized real-time electronic to ground based battlefield under total scrutiny. A near 360 degree axis of what is going on at all times. As long as they aren’t jammed that is. Which will logically follow.
The idea is to put fewer people on the ground but increase the ability to see more, integrate more and with far greater fire power at their disposal to crush whomever is there. They may yet achieve that within our life time.
In service to the Christian Empire (to come) they march with new tech for old reasons. Crusades are on since 1990.
Report thisBy Archie1954, August 28, 2009 at 9:25 am Link to this comment
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There seems to be some dichotamy in my mind as to how the majority of Americans digest all this propaganda. I read all the articles on the internet that seem to suggest that Americans do not trust their government and that plays an important part in their desire for personal weapons. If that is so why are they believing this kind of advertising? It’s government propaganda after all. I wonder if mob psychology hasn’t robbed Americans of simple basic intelligence or common sense?
Report thisBy Rgyle, August 28, 2009 at 9:15 am Link to this comment
Yeah, too bad the murdered and maimed innocent citizens can’t just get up after
Report this10 seconds >>> game reset. I thought “be all you can be” was ridiculous but for
this joystick warrior crap, absurd is too mild a description. War is a state of mind
and will only end when enough individual humans end it in themselves. Can this
be done? Sure. Read, hear or see Eckhart Tolle or Byron Katie and some others.
By Sallyport, August 28, 2009 at 8:53 am Link to this comment
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There was a time when peace was considered to be the normal state of affairs. In
Report thisWWII we no longer used the “war to end all wars” slogan of the first World War,
but there was a general assumption that we now knew enough not to let war
happen again (particularly after the introduction of nuclear weaponry). The United
Nations gave great hope to the world.
Now, it seems to be taken for granted that war is inevitable, that we have no real
control over the forces that make this so. THis, of course, is the apotheosis of
capitalism: the unending provision of a market for whatever we can produce in
the way of destructive & deadly devices.
We need to wake up & grab the reins of this government, curbing the pursuit of
profit-above-all, and redesigning the whole agenda to one of the greatest benefit
for the greatest number of people.
If this be socialism, make the most of it.
By Truth-versus-Falsehood, August 28, 2009 at 8:45 am Link to this comment
Another excellent article by David Sirota exposing the criminality of the American political-military-industrial complex with false propaganda, mass deception and warmongering.
Yet, the sad reality remains that they are doing it in our name and with our tax-payer money, without even a sign that the sheepish sleeping citizens are going to do anything against it.
Again, a case of the more things change in these sad United States of America the more they stay the same if they don’t even get worse!
Report thisBy a-ron, August 28, 2009 at 7:23 am Link to this comment
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I’ve seen several of these military ads prior to a movie starting up and they frustrate me so much I just want to yell out “Bullsh*t” while they are playing…they are so far from reality it is disturbing…sad thing is most people believe it to be reality. I think a good number of the people in the US are oblivious to this entire invasion and that it’s still going on. They are still hiding and shaking, in the shadows of the Bush / 9/11 scare era. What are we really accomplishing with this war,and more importantly who is benefitting at what cost? Iraqi Freedom my a$$.
Report thisBy Virginia777, August 28, 2009 at 7:22 am Link to this comment
I’m with you David Sirota!!
“the American psyche’s slow progress toward an increasingly peaceful disposition could be stunted by the propaganda’s powerful paradox”
That is exactly what they are trying to do with these Ads.
(and it has worked)
Report thisBy Magginkat, August 28, 2009 at 6:38 am Link to this comment
And don’t forget the other propaganda teams, the Air Force Thunderbird and the Navy Blue Angels. I wonder how many millions, if not billions, of dollars have been spent for these two teams? And for what purpose?
Purely propaganda that’s what. Unfortunately I am reminded of the Blue Angel propaganda too frequently since I live in Pensacola where they practice a lot.
I’ve always wondered why they practice over the residential areas of this city when the Gulf of Mexico is right at our doorsteps. I have grown to hate these noise making, money wasting propaganda, flyboys & their games.
Report thisBy oldhip, August 28, 2009 at 6:34 am Link to this comment
Short and to the point…
Wake Up! (Oops… Too Late…)
Report thisBy bogi666, August 28, 2009 at 4:33 am Link to this comment
A report from Afghanistan about a soldier who was shocked how different real combat was so from the video game combat that enticed him to join the military. The DoD is working in concert with the video game industry to provide video glorifying the military while simultaneously providing free preservice training for military service.The youth market is targeted of course because those are the minds must susceptible to propaganda indoctrination. This is why auto insurance premims start going down after 25 years old, the development of the brain is immature, although in Cheney and Rummy’s mind their brains never matured which is why they are so dangerous, deluded, psycho’s without adult supervision which they were without during the 8 years of Bush, no adult supervision. Bush was ill equipped to provide the adult supervision because he was/is still stuck in a pre adult mindset due to his drug and alcohol addictions which retard and even prohibit the lobes of the prefrontal cortex to function or even develop such as in Bush’s case.
Report thisBy ardee, August 28, 2009 at 3:18 am Link to this comment
War is only an option if attacked by another sovereign nation. We should have been engaged in police action these last eight years. Of course it probably would have been resolved by now, the huge profits of the defense industry would not have been achieved, thus our current condition.
We are a democracy, we decide our course of action through the election of representatives who carry out our own will. This is a textbook definition and , unfortunately does not represent the reality of our current situation.
We have only ourselves to blame.
Report thisBy NZDoug, August 28, 2009 at 12:44 am Link to this comment
Lamentable human tragedies will one day get revenge if the cause is just,
Report thisaccording to Von Claustwitz.
Anything can 911 now.
You reap what you sow…...