Sorry Godistwaddle not all of them are that way, but there is a faction of extremists that are working to make themselves the only church and type of Christianity in this country.

Fighting to destroy religion is a dead end and just leads to the kind of violence of a Mao or Stalin. We need neither. That would be antithetical to the spirit of the Bill of Rights. As are the Dominionists who are the cancer in our body politic. Backed by some of the richest and most powerful families and corporations. Now they are a danger but it is going to be very difficult to uproot them peacefully. They put us into this situation we are in with a bloated military and surveillance complex watching over us while our economy is in a shambles and on the verge of collapse. It didn’t happen blindly or accidentally.

That is also why even though birth control and abortion are legal, it is very hard to find and use. On purpose.

By godistwaddle, June 4 at 7:48 pm #

I’m with you on taxing churches, lobbys, nonprofits, foundations and any charity which over 50% goes to administrative and fund raising fees.  Currently most charities only put 20% of your dollar to where it is needed the rest is kept for fundraising fees, salaries, perks.  The salvation army is least corrupt with their ratio being about 78% going to the people who need it.

Next time they solicit money from you ask them.  They are required to tell you.  The info will come from the person who takes your credit card number (the manager), the one who calls you is usually kept in the dark, is a volunteer and believes all the money goes to those whom the charity is for.

It is time to start taxing churches, with a view to destroying religion.  Even moderate Christ-tards provide cover to the extremists, enabling them be suggesting that “faith,” the renunciation of reason, is of any worth whatsoever.

Night-Gaunt, June 4 at 1:06 am #

This American Christian terrorist networks are all over including our own military. Hawkeye this is no distraction because it is just as much a danger as a financial collapse. They will be the foot soldiers for those eager to bring down the remains of our Republic and replace it with a Theocracy they have been wanting for many years. We are literally teetering on the edge of an abyss.
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I don’t know if we are teetering still on the abyss—we certainly were in the fall of 2006.  The military, primarily the Air Force and USAF academy needs to purged of these fanatical religious right-wing-nut extremists.

Funny how the conceal-carry advocates are never defenders of liberal causes….but if this violent terrorism by the Right continues it may well be necessary to stop them.  I don’t advocate violence but I DO advocate self-defense because LEOs cannot be everywhere.

This American Christian terrorist networks are all over including our own military. Hawkeye this is no distraction because it is just as much a danger as a financial collapse. They will be the foot soldiers for those eager to bring down the remains of our Republic and replace it with a Theocracy they have been wanting for many years. We are literally teetering on the edge of an abyss.

We are in a worse state than it was in 1934 when they last tried to take over our country with a corporate state. Their wait is almost over.

If the military does not take out the Christian Taliban, we are soon going to have the very same problem Afghanistan & Pakistan have with the Muslim Taliban.

Right Wing terrorism is the root of all evil.

Wow! Here I am in TOTAL, and ABSOLUTE agreement with both Purplegirl and PatrickHenry.  100%.  I can’t agree more!  We may be at each other’s throats elsewhere but here it’s shoulder to shoulder against genuine 100% home-grown American terrorism.

This prick and everyone who helped him and encouraged him should be charged as terrorists, as malevolent and bent on destroying America as Al Qaeda.

We now have an official “right wing terrorism” problem. A large segment of our society are deeply disturbed that we have a black man as president. They have been inundating the gun store and gun shows and buying up all of the ammo in the country. The profile of the killer of Dr. Tiller fits with the demographics of the middle aged white guy who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity. They get their marching orders from the right wing media and think it is ok to take the law into their own hands if they don’t agree with the law. They are hiding behind the bible and getting encouragement from anti-choice bigots like Randell Terry. They are all guilty of giving guys like Scott Roeder the idea that society will let him get away with murder and that we will applaud him for it. What a sick bunch of people that call themselves American’s.

Murder is murder, whether it is sanctioned by Cheney to his secret hit teams or by a nation state such as Israel and the extrajudicial assassinations they carry out against suspected terrorists on another nations soil.  These “justified” acts of murder are no different than Tillers.

Lone shooters commit these religious murders out of the belief they are doing good but there is usually a more sinister force behind it with an agenda.

Rather than letting the state prosecute Roeder for simple murder, the Department of Justice should charge Roeder with a violation of section 2332b (acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries) of the federal criminal code.  And anyone who has provided Roeder with any assistance in the past should be charged with a violation of section 2339A (providing material support to terrorists).  Then maybe the general public would start to understand that these people are terrorists.

I believe that words can kill.

“As a First Amendment absolutist, I don’t believe that words kill.”—Ellen Goodman

Oh I do: how many gay or lesbian youth have committed suicide after having been taunted, bullied, defamed and ridiculed by their straight counterparts? Thousands. For decades.

What happens to these early perps who bully their peers into such misery & despair? These homophobic, pro-breeding bullies? Apparently they mature to become adult bullies of a woman’s right to choose. Older, nastier, better organized, well financed (no doubt by the Catholic & Mormon churches), and well armed. Probably the U.S. military taught them how to shoot.

What should be done about them? Eric Holder sent U.S. Marshalls to protect women’s health care providers (I won’t insult them like the mainstream media who called them “Abortion Doctors” in print & on the air!!!) but this will not prevent further assassinations. The FBI must infiltrate these organisations in order to catch these murderers. These conspiracists who enabled the likes of Roeder.

I realise some will take offense at government intervention, but if we’re honest we have to admit that the government has always infiltrated our organisations, esp. anti-war and immigration groups. Let them do the same to our enemies, in defense of women and their rights. At least the FBI would be honouring their legal mission to defend the laws of the United States.

Will the Obama Administration do this? Probably not; like his “support” for gay rights, the POTUS follows his political-animal instincts. Currently he’s trying to build a conservative base for the Democratic Party; this doesn’t help his agenda so I expect more deafening silence from Obama.

I wish I could recall where I heard or read that the various Christian terrorist groups tell their warriors to be a “lone gunmen” or “lone wolf” in their actions. They have seen what has happen to their sister groups like the Aryan Nations and Ku Klux Klan in the past so they don’t want to be sued out of existence. That and continue to propound a terrorist mind set to one and all. They have help from the FBI and local law enforcement as well. Just look at how Scott Roeter committed two Federal crimes before his murder of Dr. Hillerand nothing was done when they were reported. Maybe we just think we are in a vigorous multi-cultural ‘democracy’ and not a budding theocracy of the lay like minded.

It will be interesting of the Obama administration actually does more than simply say they are appalled at what happened. We would expect that of the previous Bush administration but not Obama’s.

If these Religious leaders names were Mohammad and were preaching from a Mosque- they would have all been rounded up and detained at Gitmo as enemy Combatants and Terrorists long ago.
And let’s be clear as to Who they are actually trying to terrorize and oppress- Women.
When BillO says “if you want to kill your baby just pay Tiller $5,000”...He’s insinuating that Women are blood thirsty murders who seduce the poor innocent men to get impregnanted just so they can sacrific the unborn…sounds very much like the accusations used during the Inquistion and Witch trials- Consorts of the Devil.Interesting the Testicles never warrant mention or responsiblity in these Holey Rollers logic.
And what makes their tactics any different than those in Afghanistan who are trying to deter (terrorize) girls away from attending School- destroy the School, assasinate the educators and attack those female students entering. has Acid been used in the attacks on Women entering these clinic yet? They’ve already Bombed clinics and assasinated the providers. Hell these terrorist are willing to bomb events not even related to the service - Atlanta Olympics.
These are also the same people who refuse to use education or encourage/offer Birth control to reduce or eliminate these unwanted pregnancies to avoid Abortions. They Want Woman to return to the days of Bare Foot and pregnant. Much like their kissing Cousins the Taliban.
These people not only hold the same misogynistic attitudes towards woman as the Taliban, they use the same murderous Terrorist tactics as AQ. Merely Calling them the ‘Christian Tailban’ falls short of the reality of what they truely are.Hell their ‘dancing in the streets’ after these murders is no different than when the radical Muslim Groups ‘danced in the Streets’ after 9/11.If fact, They raise there assasins up as if they have been Martyred.
Dr Hern(?) on Maddow stated the only thing difference between these’Christians’ and the Taiban is 8000 miles. I beg to differ- the only difference between these so called ‘Christians’ and Al Qaeda is 8000 miles.Seems these ‘Christians’ are nothing more than one of AQ’s ‘Sleeper Cells’ who truley “Hate US for our Freedoms”.
They state that they hear no sorrow for the 60,000 fetuses terminated- When in fact we have, by working to reduce the number of Unwanted pregnancies thus avoiding the use of abortions. Who seems to be the facilitators of Abortions- those who refuse to provided funding for Reproductive education and birth control.The Blood that is on the hands of these ‘Christians’ is not only from the Docs and innocent bystanders they have slaughtered in their blind religious zeal, but all the embryos & fetuses they helped create from instituting ignorance and blocking preventive methods.

These so-called “lone gunman” are clearly the IMF of the anti-abortion movement…“As usual, if you are apprehended, the Secretary will disavow all knowledge.”

That’s precisely what we see.  They drum up passions with inflammatory language, then when the KKK-like murder happens, they denounce, but always with a “but…the victim was a shameless, godless, sadistic murderer of innocent angelic babies who deserved what he got…but we deplore his murder.”

I’m more afraid of one of these home-grown terrorists than I am of Al Qaeda.