Dear Marjorie and Robert,
  Rachel Maddow was fearless as she “nailed” Obama.  I suggest your viewers watch the YOUTUBE video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY&feature; =related

Thank you for that video.  It reminds me of David Dinkins, first black mayor of NYC.  He was elected and supported by the black constituents because they thought he would bring “change”.  But he spent his whole office appeasing his enemies, who did nothing but bade their time until his term was over, then they turned on him.

So when it was time for his re-election, he had neither black support nor those who he had kissed-up to for his whole term in office.

Obama is so much trying to appease the middle, that he is losing from both ends.  He wasn’t elected to give bankers money or perpetuate Guantanamo.  He was elected to bring some real change to the American system. 

He is disappointing his base and turning himself into fish food for his detractors.

Mary Hath—I had given up on all of those, yes, MSNBC , too.

I think I will give it another look-see…thanks

My contention is, Bisbonian, that if you can state the reality-based truth is a simple concise way, you can penetrate the miasma of the American clueless and braindead (among which I don’t include you) and get them to believe presuppositions incompatilble with the the power deludions with which they have been indoctrinated from childhood. 

But I could be wrong, overemphasizing the role that reason plays in the power process.

This will sound like a cliche, but, in a way, its not Obama or Bush…its the uS economic and class system…but, you guys all knew that, right?

Is Obama better than Bush? which is better, the devil you know, or the devil you don’t?

During the campaign, I heard several people say that they thought Obama would be worse than bush. They didn’t vote for McCain either.

I didn’t trust Obama from his very first speech and I don’t trust him now.  My mother told me to beware of smooth talkers who promised things.

I’d like to know what his SCOTUS pick, Sotomayor, thinks of preventive detention.  Is she OK with the imperial presidency that he’s building?

B-b-b-but, Folk, Johannes, arent we “all in this together”??

Thats what Pres. Obama says!

I am , of course, not serious.

Yeah, KDelphi, Johannes, and by that time its too late.  This is especially the problem when USans are indoctiranted with a selfish and atomizing individualism.  Europeans like Johannes are familiar with a socializt collectivist opposition and so are more sophisticated with the snares and delusions of power.  they are more politcally sophisticated because they are more familar with class struggle politics.  US liberal ideology conceals neoliberal presuppositions, as Anarcissie commented, that separate, isolate and alienate people from each other.  IT makes mobilizing the USAn population very difficult.

NYCArtist—I think it depends on your definition of “terrorist”, right?

I mean, is a serial cannibal a “terrorist”? I know it sounds like parsing words, but, I think the point being that , if we can keep some of those guys in at Mansfield, we can probably keep people who may have just been bought and paid for on the invasion of Iraq an Afghanistan, by poor neighbors, who were offered money.

Johannes and Folk—the USAns think that the govt will “never do it to them”—they never care about anything until it effects them , personally.

I am again surprised to see that in Super-Max prisons are “hundreds of people convicted of terrorist acts”.  I was surprised when I read it in the text of Obama’s speech, for the first time.

@ Folktruher

Very nice writing and absolutely the truth.

@  Self wise, wise words but be carefull, You have hearth wat he said yesterday.

We have the same problems in Europe, the freedom of citizen excist of paying taxes.

Salutations.

Call, write your representative and make them represent, protest, make your voices heard over others or stop wasting time on this blog ______ complaining.  Shouting out on this blog does not replace political action and organizing.

Obam is NOT ‘Bush-lite.’  He is much worse than that.  He is legitimating and enchrenching Bushite policies so they will be acceptable to a bipartisan consensus.  By advocating preventive detention, he is building the bricks of a new kind of American police state. THERE IS NOTHING WHATEVER FROM PREVINTING A RIGHT WING SUPREME COURT FROM MAKING PREVENTIVE DETENTION AS PART OF THE CONSTITUTION FOR THE AMERICAN POPULATION.  Or from preventing an administration of simply ignoring the laws, as BOTH BUSH DID AND OBAMA IS DOING.

It is not LAW that is fundamental, but justice and freedom for the American people.  And this is based on POWER.  If people maintain their power from their rulers, they will make their own laws and attain their own freedom.  Obama is systematically depriving the American people of power, of dispowering the American people.  He is EXTENDING Bushite policies and legitimating them.

The US has traditionally been a racist society where the laws have focused on oppressing the non-White population.  Like the prisoners of Gitmo.  But the main enemy of the US ruling class are the truthers and activsts of the population.  It was not the Jews that were first imprisoned and executed by the Nazies, it was the communists, socialists and liberals.  Including those who,foolishly, paved the way for Hitler’s assumption of power.

The Obama cheerleaders are putting a rope around their own necks as well, by fostering the legitimating of an anti-mobilizing police state.  A postmodern police state need not have giant Nazi rallies, merely tv and modern adertising techniques.  And intelligence and police agencies spying on the population.  And laws and procedures for preventive and other forms of imprisonment; preventing people from traveling, communicating and assempling; and general fear and intimidation instilled by War.  Obama is legitimating the installation of all of these measures, with the support of most of the Dem leaders.

That was the plan, give us two “choices” one very obviously bad and the other not so obviously bad. All others weren’t allowed to have a chance in the game of rigged elections.

Now what McCain might have had more trouble with, Obama sails through very quickly.

Even if Gitmo closed there are so many other military bases like Bahgram that are expanding to take more prisoners. Most of which we have no idea where and who and how many there are in these “black sites” all around the world and even on ships at sea!

One thing all of those thousands of photos of tortured detainees would have shown us is that the stink and rot of torture was wide and deep. From the top apple down it was and systematic. That was why they remain hidden, because it might of inflamed us too.

Trust but verify, one of the very few things I ever agreed with Reagan on just because it is prudent.

Obama = Bush-lite.
Aren’t you glad you wasted your vote?

The ownership class has plenty of wiggle room to do what is best…for themselves. The newest one selected to preside over the kingdom, President Obama, has the precarious task of convincing the great unwashed that he still really believes in changing things, despite all the evidence to the contrary. This is indeed a tall order for the cool one, and the members of what could best be called the bipartisan illusion, do not make it any easier. You might say that things are getting a bit sticky. Will somebody make an order for more soap? If only it were possible to scrub the minds of that vast sea of Those Who Do Not Own, so they would no longer ever consider questioning authority. Maybe Barry will finally convince us that we are the numbskulls we have been waiting for.

Well the land of the free is gone, he can put you in prison so long he likes without to say why.

He is not jet there, but its not far away, well he is even bether as Bush.

Every country gets the president, withs it deserve.

I am very sorry for the goodwilling American people, who ones again are betrayd by the riche power scrapers.

The real question is, is Obama serious or is this all a political sham to make people THINK he is serious, when in essence, he may also be part of the overall strategy.

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=3756&updaterx=2009-05-22+10:41:25

On the other hand, this was a pretty good week for GOP, considering that theyre “out of power”, they got alot done!

Somebody should tell the Dems that they have control of the executive and legislative branches~! Hurry, so they can do all this progressive stuff that they truly want to do, like pass universal heatlh care, like Obama said he would do (when they got all three back!! of course) in 2003…and close GITMO, and, stop war…hurry, before 2010!

Folktruther, not all trials are rigged, I’ve served on a few juries myself.

3rd world “terrorists” pale in comparison to the 1st world ones.

Obama is really disgusting.  I see Patrick Henry is an advocate of American Justice, rigged trials and then let the criminals in prison finish them off.

First they all have to be tried in a court of law.

If a prosecuter deems there is insufficient evidence (in alot of cases I’m sure) to try them, extradite them to where we found them.

If found guilty, send them to a federal prison where they will soon find U.S. prisoners are patriotic too.

Either case we need to demolish and remove the buildings at Guantanamo, tear down the fence and leave.  This would be the symbol of change the world would respect.