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U.S. Citizens Detained and Deported by Immigration

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Posted on Apr 24, 2009
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Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arrest a suspect during a predawn raid in Santa Ana, Calif.

In its zeal to crack down on illegal immigration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement is detaining and deporting American citizens. The Center for Investigative Reporting’s Andrew Becker talks about his investigation into this disturbing trend.

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By CaptainAldo, April 26, 2009 at 5:38 pm Link to this comment

Photoshop and Blogdog you are both right, you may find this to your liking:

http://aldovidali.com/winds-and-currents/clown-economics-101

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By KDelphi, April 26, 2009 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment

The point is that the guards are not distinguishing who is here illegally and who is not, because we do not have any rational immigration policy.

The multi-natls pushed these free trade agreements, and now, people on both sides of the border wil suffer for them. Pres. Obama , apparently, plans to pass the same type of agreements with Panama and Colombia. It desprives people of their natural lands. We should not be doing this. It just presents them with a Shock Doctrine, which we are now enjoying, also.

The one thing Dubya mightve gotten right, was his Immigration Reform idea-which the neo-cons blocked. At least we woudlve had a policy about who was allowed to be here and who was not to be.

But, even the idea of IDS cards seems to be repellant to those who wish to blame our current woes on Mexico. The Mexican, Panamanian and Colombian PEOPLE (not corp) dont want this either.

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By mandinka, April 26, 2009 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment

handyman , how and why is it necessary to distinguish which country they came from?? There all here illegally and need to go home period!!!

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By Paracelsus, April 25, 2009 at 10:12 pm Link to this comment

I should have listened to the audio. The rate of unwarranted deportations was 9/100’s of one percent. I don’t see how this citizen employment enhancement program should be closed down for such a small rate of failure. Some of the deported fraudulently claim Mexican citizenship in order to avoid criminal charges under their American citizenship. If the statute says alien then alien it is. That’s lawful terminology. I am tired of people trying to change the language in order to suit their agendas.

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By Paracelsus, April 25, 2009 at 9:45 pm Link to this comment

It’s all strategy. Free trade and illegal alien hiring works to knock the nation down. Then we have ICE “acting” like idiots by arresting and deporting Americans for immigration violations

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By blogdog, April 25, 2009 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment

RE: “...gangs…” Don’t forget the Russian Mafia, but then none of these gangs can acquire the firepower of a Black Water or MOSSAD, nor dispatch targets with as cool a professional disengagement; yet ultimately, nothing any of them has ever done matches the magnitude of damage left in the wake numerous IMF or World Bank programs imposed on the 3rd World.

I once heard a man from Phoenix complaining about the Mexicans who serviced the sprawling, heavily watered grounds, surrounding his little suburban American Dream home, that they’d steal anything that wasn’t nailed down. I then heard another fellow quip, “You know they’re just stealing back what we stole from them, one little piece at a time.”

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By TheHandyman, April 25, 2009 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment

I always love the shopt from the lips crowd like mbfromhb that claim that only one group of illegals cause all the problems and make it sound as if everyone of the people from that particular race, in this case, Mexican, are a source of those problems. Of course they can’t differientiate between Mexicans, Nicaruguans, Porta Ricans, Guatamalans as they are all Mexicans to them. Of course the Vietnamese have no gangs, nor the Haitians, of the Taiwanese, only Mexicans it seems. And historically speaking, whites, like the Irish, English, Scotts, or even the Italians never were a problem even when they immigrated legally so it that must mean that it is the illegal act combined with being Mexican that cause such behavior. And they don’t get that their racial bias makes them magnify the problem way out of proportion to its reality. And of course they never would admit that this sudden push to round up anyone and everyone that is brown skinned and obviously “Mexican” is politically motivated and in many cases legally wrong. It is way too much to ask these people who don’t know how to do it to think rationally and logically when it would be so much easier to react in suck a monotonous and knee-jerk way.

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By KDelphi, April 25, 2009 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment

mbfromhb—I’m not reading all the hate crap. My ancestors (Scandanavians) were here before Anglos—-after Native Ams. And I think that there are too many of you. I want you to go. I was here first.

You know, one thing that tells you that an Empire has seen its best days, is that, EVERYONE IS SO ANGRY! And, they always seek an outside gorup to blame…unless you dream of being a sharecropper, stop blaming your lack of a job on Mexicans, and work to reverse the damn free trade agreements that took away their ancestral farm land and forced them to come here to look for work to survive. BTW—most are leaving now. There are no jobs here, and its not that we’re not being “replaced by Mexicans”.

The big miulti-natls shipped the jobs to countries where there is no minimum wage. We are in the process of signing two more “free trade” agreements, which will help us and the people of Colombia and Panama , not at all.

Stop your childish ranting and concentrate on whats relly going on.

Anyone who would write that much crap in response to my tiny post, has a problem. Go make some friends or something—-you know, rich, bald, old, fat, white guys. (BTW—I’m “white”, a-hole) Work on the border fence—-stick El Paso on the southern side, along with the whole state of Texas.

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By mbfromhb, April 25, 2009 at 12:35 am Link to this comment

oh…..ps,  KDelphi i almost forgot to mention this…now all the youngster, teens and young adults are becoming a major pain-in-the-ass!! theyre all starting to associate with newer made up gangs. all over here, the so-called ones that were born here but i suspect that maybe their parents were probably ‘illegals’ are associating as “southsiders” and their counterparts or rivals ARE the ‘illegals’and are called “pisanos” or the derogatory form called “pisas” pronounced with a long ‘i’. now geez, how the hell would i know that. theyre all over the county jail system, entering state prison and were just starting to come into the federal prison system the last i was aware. geez, now how would i know that!! theyre a big pain-in-the-ass. also theyre the ones that do all the tagging all over orange, la, and san d counties. and either do or arrange all the dope thats been in the papers, to be ‘muled’ in, that means smuggled in. this is definitely not helping society or offering anything constructive. thats another reason i mentioned, being facetious, about giving everybody a pass but mexicans. all this shi*s not from the asians, no one from the middle east, NOOO!!.. not europeans..just the ones the news stations film hopping over the fence with shi* strap to their waist. the idiots are getting busted everyday. there’s just so many sneaking in theyre not all getting caught!!

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By mbfromhb, April 25, 2009 at 12:12 am Link to this comment

back again, KDelphi….first its what i call riffing!! secondly, in a cold, bold way , i was being sarcastic where you quoted the idiot response. now on the real… ive been here longer than any of your so-called people, raised in so cal way before the influx of hispanics and i even mean in santa ana when it was a nice place with nice homes!! now i went to school k-12 and college and there were hispanics. im not talkin’ about them. in fact, my best friend is mexican and his parents immigrated legally from mexico city…and finally as a social progressive, im in continual arguments with ‘mejia’ who’s a staunch republican and refers to the folks your talking about as ‘wetbacks’ and thats his terminology. legal immigration i have and never had a problem with. the key to the statement is “LEGAL”. sneaking over the border and look to everyone to say ‘poor lil ole me’ because theyre ‘illegals’ and want a pass, i say gtfo just like i would tell you in your response to shut the ‘f’ up!! other than the fact that the people we’re talking about arent “undocumented” as the softshoe reference to create the ‘poor-lil-ole-me effect but in “ILLEGAL”. again ill emphasize the fact that the feds have absolutely no hesitancy in locking your ass up if you do anything they dont like. but its the poor ‘illegals’ that dont catch a break. again, NOOO!!
theyre breaking the law!!!!!!! that means get your ass in jail. now if your in a detention center and bubba is making a wife out of you thats not his fault, thats yours for being here in the first place. now ill pose this question….lets say we post up the military to protect the border from any and everyone and the idiot thats climbing over the 12ft fence with 15ft ladder gets his ass shot for hopping over the fence. is it the soldier who’s the bad guy for protecting the border and shooting the guy in the ass!!! NOOO!!! its the idiots fault for hopping over the fence to sneak in. basically, we dont need a mass migration of gardners, lawnmower drivers, guys with little engines on their back blowing leaves, a pethora of maids or just tons of people jumping on the dole for free public assistance. the citizens that have the right to be here, to be employed here and to have regular access to public assistance without wading through a million ‘illegals’ trying to take advantage of a compassionate system that was never meant for them. like i said before, get your ass in line like the rest of our ancestors did. and dont come back with the mexicans owned all the land and were here first. in fact it wasnt mexicans, it was native americans “indians” that were here and they migrated more than 10000yrs ago across the land bridge at the bering straight. that means even the “indians” originally came from asia history buff!!! and with expansion from the east starting in the 1700’s the louisiana purchase was between the french and us. texas was independant. and what little the mexican military tried to expand to like california ended up getting their ass kick so to the winner goes the spoils. spoils of war!!! they lost 100’s of yrs ago. now comes the final solution…100% mandatory e-verify no exceptions. any employer caught hiring any ‘illegal’ gets 5yrs in federal prison and all his assets seized. ill guarantee not one and i mean not one ‘illegal’ will have a job. with 12 to 20 million no longer taking the jobs of the citizens thats the end of the unemployment problem. next, no job means no food, no job no house…we’ll witness a mass exodus walking to the border and the funny thing is nobody will be leaving to canada, NOOO… they’ll all be walking to mexico. NOW….get your ass in line like everybody else did and wait your turn. and if you dont like it ‘f’ you!!!!

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By ispy, April 24, 2009 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment
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Re: mbfromhb

Since when does anyone in any Commonwealth country need to be registered in any way shape or form?
Since when does any citizen need a divers license, birth certificate, state ID or passport to travel from point A to point B within the USA or any commonwealth country?
Are you going to force register over 50 million people that aren’t, just because you say so?
Would you like to be put on an ICE list due to your name being from another country, like Germany, England, Poland, Russia, Spain, South Africa or any other?

How easily it can be done:
Someone intercepts your post here, gets your internet IP, gets your name, your home address and you’re Gone. No if’s or but’s about it.
That’s the power ICE, CIA, NSA, and many others have.

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By KDelphi, April 24, 2009 at 3:04 pm Link to this comment

mbfromhb—you are a scary person. Didnt you hear that it was talking about US citizens (prob of Latino descent?) My ancestors apparently were here before the Angos—-so I will impose quotos on violence prone Anglos…gtf out!

Furthermore, youre an idiot…just look at this:

“...mexicans. have a nice EQUAL amount of foreign settlers. of the 12 to 20 million estimated ‘illegals in the country and extinguish the claims of “racist” and “xenophobe”.. allow a nice variety of cultures and peoples. and giving all the ‘illegals’ that ARENT mexican a pass would probably mean an extremely small number to actually get the pass. bottomline, we’re not wanting to be invaded or considered a northern territory of mexico.
back to the original premise…get your ass in line..NO ‘F’ING PASS!!!!”

??????????????????

Well, I guess Venezuelans and Peruvians are ok, with you, huh? HOw ‘bout bloody WASPS? Greedy Anglos? YOu know, the rich, fat, old white guys that have been running the coutnry since its inception, and , have ruined it…THAT “happens to be the problem”, in my opinion.

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By mbfromhb, April 24, 2009 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment

well, if this happens to be a problem, then i suggest everyone start carrying their DL on them!! this way you’d be able to identify yourself. and if no license then you better have a regular state id. and the advocates, dont start with that BS that this impinges on everyones rights. if the ‘illegal’ gets caught up then his ass gets kicked out. HE’S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!! thats why he’s ‘ILLEGAL’ and not undocumented!!! like eveybodies ancestors did, get your ass in line!!! NOOOO!!!! all the mexicans dont get a pass!!!
and since the hispanic caucas and the general advocates want to piss and moan about giving everybody a pass how ‘bout this…everybody gets a pass EXCEPT the mexicans. have a nice EQUAL amount of foreign settlers. of the 12 to 20 million estimated ‘illegals in the country and extinguish the claims of “racist” and “xenophobe”.. allow a nice variety of cultures and peoples. and giving all the ‘illegals’ that ARENT mexican a pass would probably mean an extremely small number to actually get the pass. bottomline, we’re not wanting to be invaded or considered a northern territory of mexico.
back to the original premise…get your ass in line..NO ‘F’ING PASS!!!!

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By photoshock, April 24, 2009 at 8:05 am Link to this comment

The ‘Global War on Terror,’ has now revealed its true nature. This natural progression is part of the ‘terror’ war and we are the recipients of a ‘strong empirical presidency.’
At no time in the past has the Immigration and Customs Enforcement ever detained and deported citizens of the United States, whether naturalized or citizens who were born here. The ICE is detaining people based upon a certain set of criteria, the colour of one’s skin, or the heritage one has, has now become the determining factor with regards to detention and eventual deportation. The has happened because the government in its simplistic minds has refused to pass legislation with regards to simplifying the process of immigration to the US.
No coherent policy exists for the rights of immigration into the US and I believe that now, with the declining birthrate of ‘white’ native born citizens, we will see much more of this kind of discriminatory act against those of Hispanic origin.
A changing demographic has shifted the priorities of those in power and it is high time that the citizens of the US face the facts that we are fast becoming a minority in the US. It is not ‘our’ country, but a country of the citizenry of the US, wherever one happens to be from.
As for the Obama administration’s lack of response to this eventually growing and discriminatory crisis,
one need only look at the ‘torture’ issue to see that
President Obama, needs to set his priorities and do this fast.
We are living in the age of terror, the citizenry is scared out of their wits and nothing is doing anything to change that mindset. One report after another is clearly setting that mindset in stone, for the elite and powerful of the world, have determined that a ‘global war on terror,’ not a war on a person, but a war on a thing, a feeling, is the way to institute a fascist state that will eventually
control the world for the complete benefit of those people who comprise the moneyed elite of this world.

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By blogdog, April 24, 2009 at 7:18 am Link to this comment

The Global War Of Terror on the domestic front - the goal: Terrorize us all - everyone, everywhere!

Of course all who serve are “patriots,” be they unwitting fools, useful tools, authoritarian zealots or careerists.

At day’s end the mission is not to protect, nor to serve the citizenry, only the ownership class - The New World Oligarchy.

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