Yes, I saw the Brits leaving Basra, KDelphi; good for them, though bad when one thinks they’ll probably be going to Afghanistan next.

Absolutely right, this country can still be a healthy and wealthy one if only it ends its empire of its own accord and reverts to the non-interventionism of its Founders. And if there’s anyone around to write post-mortems after the American Empire is done, they’ll be writing about what should’ve been done here and what oughtn’t to have been done there to keep the imperial dream alive, and no one (outside, perhaps, the Ludwig von Mises Institute) will be willing to admit that the whole imperial adventure from 1898 onwards had been a huge mistake, one the USA should NOT have enmarked upon.

Well, Ben Franklin said it best—“Experience keeps a dear school but fools will learn in no other.”

Paul_GA—I am afraid it will come to huge , major swatches of extreme inner city and rural poverty…

did you see, yestrday, where the British troops were leaving Iraq?? Yes, they left…our troops just standing there, the UK troops telling them to please turn the electricity back on… (sortve like “dont forget to turn the light out??) I am glad that they are going, and, I wish we were, but, it was rather sad, all the same…

The US can be strong, health and wealthy…but we have to give up on Empire…thats what I think…

How I wish we WOULD give it up voluntarily, KDelphi, but the Elites are so much in love with the Status Quo. They think the present economic morass and twin quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan are just blips on the radar screen, and that nothing can stop the USA from being the greatest country on the earth, fated to grow bigger and more powerful with scarcely a pause for breath.

I would suggest they’ll one day be disabused of that illusion ... the hard way.

NEWS FLASH FROM KABUL

WORD just in today from KABUL from HOBO MOE AND INDIAN JOE sent on the hot trail as bounty hunters to find all that supposed missing cash from the big banks vaults.

They had this to say. “Hey boys in CONGRESS you wasted our time——- thar ain”t no cash a missing that is REAL ——we found some funny goings ons on their books and stuff but no real cash a missing.  Somebody big must have tolt yall some lies?”

So MOE and JOE being bounty hunters for nigh on 50 years
Said “ You boys in CONGRESS wasted our time we been doin bounty hunting that is our only job and we need some bucks to help us get back on our feet again for all this wasted time.

We thought you didn’t know nuttun when you gave us this har JOB and in that WORK we were called stupid “Os” that we AIN’T and LIKIN and taking insults right and left, We are dun with your type—-so FEDEX us a check for $300.00 to cover our expense.

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Ole MOE AND JOE never got their check CONGRESS said no one around to sign it.

Paul_GA—I fear that you are right..some say that the UK didnt voluntarily give up Empire…I guess that that is true…maybe they never would have…it had to be taken from them.

Does not bode well for us…the thought , oh well….I suggest we give it up ourselves…

Aye, there’s the rub, KDelphi—“falling graciously”. Arguably, the British “fell graciously”, but only after wearing themselves out in two world wars.

In our case, I fear, we *will* go out with a bang ... followed by a soft, sad whimper.

mandinka—You are astounding! There are many interpretations of the Constitution, but, at least I know who the fricking president of the USSR was when Reagan was president of the uS!! I hardly chided you about it, you ole grouchass!You need to learn not to exagerrate and YOU need to get a memory test.

Mandinka warrior indeed…all you have to say is how moronic everything I say is. You prove nothing and youre a boring person to argue with.

LOL! OK, I’m ignorant and moronic…

delly your ignorance of the constitution really shows. do some homework before returning your infantile responses are tiring

mandinka—The Constitution provides for a “well-armed malitia”.
You honestly think that the Founders envisioned the US spending 10x what the rest of the world does on nukes? Bullshit.

You dont even know who was president when the “Berlin Wall fell” (it didnt fall—it was brought down by dictatorship—-and things are going so well there now…Yankee go home!)

The “war on poverty” has continued—-as the “war on the poor”, with tax phobics, the “war on terror” and the “war on drugs”...

Paul_GA—Yes, but, most Empires fell more graciously than we will..we seem to be determined to “go out with a bang” and take as many with us as possible.Especially our own citizens, who are now, I am told , just “consumers”...

I expect, Mandinka, that the Elites in Mordor-on-the-Potomac and Isengard-on-the-Hudson will sooner slit their own throats before they’ll surrender so much as a smidgen of the power they’ve gained over the rest of the country these long years since this country ceased to be a republic and began emulating the empires of old.

I agree the cold war is over and since it is there is no reason to continue the war on poverty and all the other outdated social nonsense. The constitution only requires the government to provide for national defense so lets go back to our roots

KDelphi, that’s *exactly* what the Cold-War generation needs to do—get over the Cold War; it’s over, it’s done. Sadly, except for a few of us (like yours truly) they never have, and so this country is on the road to Ruin through Imperial Overstretch.

All good things have to come to an end; bad things, too.

mandinka—Umm, Gorbachev?? You think?? Most of those people are dead now, unless of course you want to pay for all the war crimes you ancestors may have committed…reparations,,,hmmmm…who said that Nixon or Ike??

The Cold War generation needs to ...well, get over the “cold war”....you can only ride that “fear of socialism” horse for so long…time marches on…the US did nothing to “tear down this wall”.(Was that Ike or Nixon?)he USSR was a dictatorship that collapsed under its own weight. Get over US exceptionalism.

I might take you more seriously if you werent so histrionic and prone to exagerration—”
the most moronic statement youve ever heard”?? Really? After Dubby??

I wouldnt say that your statement was THE most moronic statement I’ve ever heard…...

Excuse me, Mandinka, but I thought it was, “Mr. GORBACHEV, tear down this wall.”

Anyway, that was then, this is now.

delly, EU owes us nothing.. that is with out question the most moronic statement I ever heard. Ever hear of Normandy, North Africa, Verdun, Bosnia, Berlin Airlift??? Mr Kruchief tear down that wall. The EU owes its very existence to our largeness money and blood, but they and your ilk would never think of repaying a debt owed. If we just were paid for rebuilding Europe after WW2 all the Europeans would have to their names is the shit on their shoes

KDelphi, April 27 at 5:13 pm

I don’t give a RATS ASS WHAT THE QUEEN THINKS, I know her politics stink. The queen bee wants us to take out Iran so all her benefactors can get back the oil fields that was stolen for them.  I read the deal the BRITS made with IRAN it read like HEADS WE WIN TAILS YOU LOSE.

And the queen bee needs to be the one to pull the trigger like she did with the BUSH BUNCH OF THUGS sissy little chicken hawk cowards.

mandinka—this is completely your opinion (that you want Europeans to pay up, that it was wrong to touch the queen).

Why dont you go live in a monarchy? The queen had no probloem with it, and, besides, who gives a rat’s ass what the queen thinks. (bloody , greedy anglos)I am no fan of Pres. Obama, and I’m not going to defend him. The EU owes the uS exactly nothing. If we pulled all of our bases out tomorrow, the PEOPLE of these countries would be more than glad. We just make them targets.

This is the Bush/Obama war. If you are waiting for NATO (which should be disbanded), you will wait a very long time. They see the folly of this war, whereas most ‘Merkins are too stupid.

Do I expect the Europeans to supply you bet. Barack said he knew where bin laden was in Dec and that he was going to get his new European allies to support our efforts. After demeaning our country and his wife slapping the back of the queen. This knucklehead came back and said the EU now loves us ohhhh by the way afghanistan is our problem so sorry.
Its a reflection of what happens when a novice thinks he can fix foreign policy

I could give the opinions of experts, like, that colonialism almost killed the entire continent, but, I have a feeling you are going to tell me something different.

So what exactly is YOUR suggestion? How do we get along better in the uS? You dont want to hear anything, you just want to argue. I dont.

So, you want a bunch of EU troops in Af-Pak, or what?? I dont see your point…

delly, glad you mentioned South Africa they were at 1 time a net exporter of food and minerals. now they import their economy continues to perform at a rate that is below where it was with apartheid. Can you guess why??

WHEN WE ALL GET REAL SERIOUS ABOUT OUR COMMUNED INTEREST

These, and other grievances, were patiently borne by WE THE PEOPLE until they reached that point at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue. We then took up our combined voice again in defense of the national constitution. We appealed to our brethren for assistance.  Our appeals thus far have been made in vain.  Through months and even years have elapsed. No sympathetic response has yet been heard from CONGRESS.  We are, therefore, forced to the melancholy conclusion that the present Executive Branch has acquiesced in the destruction of our liberty, and the substitution therefore of a military government—that they insist we are unfit to be free and incapable of self-government.

XVI.
The necessity of our mortal and immortal self-preservation, therefore, now decrees our eternal political plea for CONGRESS to impeach try convict fine and banish with out impunity enablers makers and profiteers of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the inclusive war on terror

XVII.
  It has suffered a disproportion of illicit terror on the estimated 750,000 fellow Christian believers in Iraq many tens of thousands have left their homes, land people and property fleeing from Iraq during our war efforts for fear of their lives. Thus ridding the commands of Jesus Christ harm nullifying nearly 2000 years of work in Iraq that was inspired by Apostle Paul.

WE THE PEOPLE, therefore, as the constitutional empowered delegates, with plenary powers, of the people of the United States of America, in solemn sober and resolute connectivity assemble, appealing to a candid world for the necessities of our conditions, do hereby resolve and declare that our political connection with the present Executive Branch of our nation has forever ended; and that WE THE PEOPLE do now constitute a free, sovereign, and independent VOICE, and are fully invested with all the rights and attributes which properly belong to independent people; and conscious of the rectitude of our intentions, we fearlessly and confidently commit the issue to the decision of the Supreme Arbiter of the destiny of each as individuals and WE THE PEOPLE.

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mandinka, April 26 at 6:25 pm #

“delphi, homogeneous means that they look like us. There is not a single EU country with 13% blacks and 14% Hispanics. when people act like you look like you you more willing to help out.” (I know what the WORD “
homogeneous” means)

I just do not know if this is true—got any stats? Because all of South Africa should be getting along just peachy!
“but when those 25% named above commit 80% of the crime 805 of all social spending the majority tires of being treated as suckers. Compare NO and Katrina and what has happened subsequently in midwest and texas, no riots looting killing etc.” Are you talking about Europe or the uS or what??

I agree with you completely about NO—it was a bigger disaster for this country than 9/11—because, so much of the tragedy couldve been prevented.

“Where have I been in Europe you ask, every country multiple times why does that make a difference?/”

Yes, it does. Because, if you havent been there lately, you wouldnt know the state of social programs, nor the standard of living. They have a little trouble with radical Muslims, but, they have trouble with radical ANY religion—-they are just not a religious bunch~! And, if that kind of homogeneity makes people more peaceful (they seem to be) I am all for it. I think it has more to do with religious zeal than race.

So has heterogeniety made the uS less or more racist, do you think?

If there is some evidence that people do empathize more with those who look like them, whether its relligion, race, sex or class, what is to be done about it? I am certainly not advocating helping poor whites out more than poor blacks or Latinos. It is just that Democrats seem inclined to do none of the above. True, the Dems dont care about your race—-if youre poor, they just dont care.

samosamo, April 26 at 5:10 pm
BREAKING NEWS RELEVANT——SWINE FLU Monday April 27, 09

Articulation is and art—-most arts require study from masters before being accepted by most, for in most that read, write and dissect the written matter they rely of individuals preparing such to have had connectivity to other artfully folks before being approved.

As has been stated in a derisory context I have neither.  But in my own self-defense I try. And in me trying my work is getting some better particularly when my hair is not on fire trying to publish needed info quickly to bring awareness before more destruction prepared for us by the enemies within our own borders takes a final toll in federally funded genocide.  Folks being injected or being inoculated in the outbreak of what is a hoax from hell being called SWINE FLU.
Thus many in America today have volumes of evidence to bring forward at a time like this to give the time lines the people involved and the terrors present in the here is come again another 911 but now we know to look deeply first before being inoculated for the prevention of SWINE FLU. The videos are not artfully done and needs to be cleaned up to be fully approved by the arts community but it is the best that I guess could be done on a short timeline—-maybe his hair is on fire too——- that can been seen and heard in the next presentations by an American Patriot.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/609.html

Folks it is never too late to start. We must as an informed community at TRUTHDIG informs the many other less others to BEWARE.  To refuse best as one can to not be inoculated—deceitfully if that is the only way.

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This country desperately needs to return to its past non-interventionistic stance; otherwise, we’re on our collective way, wherever we are politically, to National Ruin, through the town of Imperial Overstretch.

mandinka, April 26 at 6:25 pm

Social spending must be perceived to be a good thing for that is the purpose.  But in the end the big share of the money goes for drugs alcohol and illicit behavior in all ways. Now who profits from that business in America?  The mafia did at one time—-but now that big piece of pie has been split up, drug lords big and small, crooked politicians, crooked judges, prisons being turned over to private contractors BIG BUCKS in that.  So what was meant to be good some times turns out to be bad.  Those that you mentioned still have inadequate housing for again that segment of the Government helps programs have been ravaged by crooked builders building sub standard housing and getting a free ride about everywhere on the endless USA MEAL TICKET.

Your use of the word homogeneous I think was wrong——- I think you should have used the word heterogeneous meaning all in the same body but separated and I think that better explains your intentions. Yes we in America are in one body called Americans but those two races are separate in their individuality, cultures etc.

A CHANGE OF PACE

Rachel Maddow Friday night had retired Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, chief-of-staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell from 2002 to 2005 on her show—-he said the only thing we needed to watch closely was the stock pile of nuclear stuff in Pakistan and as for Iraq and Afghanistan to stay was a waste of life, limb money spent and would be the same as they were in 90 days after us leaving no matter how long we stayed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28314808/

DWIGHTBAKER

Another thing mr. baker, you just can’t accept constructive criticism. I tried to point out some either erronous information in a comment or bad articulation and now you attack me for doing so. Proves you don’t read or preview what you say and you definitely did not try to look for what I was talking about.
““If you had more to say than just cut me down, that would be a good thing to do.  I work all the time for US, we are drowning in delusions and dilemmas and some of you including you sometimes want to be like a wild dog and turn on the ones in your own pack.”“
I suspect you to be a disruptor of this site by your multiple overlengthy and in a lot cases unintelligible comments. And that ‘work all the time for US’- doing what? Oh, don’t answer. I have other better things to do.

delphi, homogeneous means that they look like us. There is not a single EU country with 13% blacks and 14% Hispanics. when people act like you look like you you more willing to help out. but when those 25% named above commit 80% of the crime 805 of all social spending the majority tires of being treated as suckers. Compare NO and Katrina and what has happened subsequently in midwest and texas, no riots looting killing etc.
Where have I been in Europe you ask, every country multiple times why does that make a difference?/

samosamo, April 26 at 5:10 pm

If you had more to say than just cut me down, that would be a good thing to do.  I work all the time for US, we are drowning in delusions and dilemmas and some of you including you sometimes want to be like a wild dog and turn on the ones in your own pack.  That is just the way they are when no foe is around they turn on one another—-so I guess we could say that is a bad thing to do.  RIGHT?

Now tell me does it give you some kind of zip in our walk and pleasure in your jabber to be an AKA and totally removed from personal contact and sit in your judges seat and set the sentences then deliver the killing blow too?  How much of a pervert does it take to do those kinds of things? 

Well think I know but will look that up in the DSMR and give you a number.

mandinka—If you think that not imposing a horribly broken neo-liberal foreign policy around the world is cowardly, than you are a coward. And a fool.

I dont see what “homoegeneous” has to do with spending. They have a proportionally represented govt (we dont) They tax rich people. They also protect their products. An unregulated “free mtk” cant do that. They are having problem, but, you dont see people in the stereet much ,because they have a social safety net to fall back on. We dont.

Where have you visited in Europe?

DWIGHTBAKER

What the…?

BREAKING NEWS RELEVANT
GARTH made the following information public to us yesterday on TRUTHDIG so when the stories began breaking I took most of his work and a little of mine and began trying my best to tell the American People BEWARE.

The New York Times just broke this story I posted but they would not allow,
Early morning the Boston Globe broke the same story I posted but they would not allow.

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Mexico’s Calderon Declares Emergency Amid Swine Flu Outbreak

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si; d=aEsNownABJ6Q&refer=home

Obama’s Visit
The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obama’s trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexico’s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported. The newspaper didn’t confirm if Solis had swine flu or not.

Scientists said the virus combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before. “We are very, very concerned,” World Health Organization spokesman Thomas Abraham said. “We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human,” he said. “It’s all hands on deck at the moment.”

Guess where the first swine flu outbreak occurred? That’s right, Fort Dix, New Jersey, in 1976. Also likely created in a US Army lab. Thirteen soldiers died, leading the US government to force a questionable vaccine on the population—backed by a legal liability escape clause mandated by and for the pharma-terrorists. Next, people started dying not from the flu—but from the *vaccine.*

Every major media outlet has reported the fact that US/UK bioterrorists have been manipulating the avian flu virus in university and Army labs. This new flu strain, one that ‘no one has ever seen,’ contains avian flu. Now, how does *that* happen?”

http://www.legitgov.org/flu_kills_torture_memos_260409.html
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From the University of CT Health Center
By William Hathaway

Scientists have resurrected one of the world’s great killers in the laboratory, hoping that the genetic secrets within the 1918 influenza virus will help them predict and combat the next major microbial threat to mankind.

In a contained laboratory at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, scientists used reverse genetics to re-create the 1918 flu virus that killed 20 million to 50 million people, according to studies released Wednesday. Scientists say that although the 1918 strain probably does not represent a significant human health threat today, it can provide insight into dangerous types of contemporary influenza, such as the highly lethal avian strain now circulating among birds, which some scientists fear could evolve into the next catastrophic pandemic.

samosamo, April 26 at 2:55 pm

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Conclusion
“This is truly a spectacular event,” Dr. John Shanley, professor of medicine and director of infectious diseases at the University of Connecticut Health Center, said of the studies published in the journals Nature and Science. “To resurrect a virus and gain useful scientific information from it is remarkable.”

http://www.uchc.edu/ocomm/newsarchive/news05/oct05/ fluvirus.html
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By Anthony Wile
FreeMarketNews.com
11-16-5
POMPANO BEACH and MONTREAL—(Former) U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is not only a force in launching the controversial flu remedy Tamiflu, he (was) also behind the release of the increasingly criticized sweetener aspartame.

http://www.rense.com/general68/page.htm
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By DWIGHTBAKER, April 26 at 2:03 pm

Mr.baker, you become more incoherent whenever I catch a glance of your overly long winded diatribes that are more clutter now that you are passing on information that at the least makes one believe you are in possession of the facts. Your huge amount of chatter may also be the cause of the difficulty of accessing Truthdig. If you don’t at least articulate believable information then don’t comment at all. I leave it to you to spot your errors on the information you write.

mandinka, April 26 at 1:06 pm #

Who were the ones that made the call for the US to go to War I believe that the facts will prove the Bilderbergs did.  And where do they reside in Europe?  So the new kids on the block US new USA Empire was sent to make war while being robbed by the Bilderbergs who gave out the orders. Yes you are right they are cowards at heart they run from those many that shout back at them. For they like to be seen as the great benefactors and advocates for the human race, and because of that they don’t like people to get in their face and demand answers that is not on their talking points of that day.  So hand pick was ole Dubai GW the moron but was well connected with Daddy the creator of the CIA so they could get those two idiots to do their bidding for just pennies on a dollar for their high crimes committed. So here come along the whole pack of misfit’s morons handpicked by the Bilderbergs to make war.

The BUSH BUNCH GANG OF THUGS made Iraq and Afghanistan their mission long before the less than honest elections in 2000. The BIG OIL BOYS needed that land to lay pipelines from the GIANT OIL FIND NORTH in the Caspian Sea called the Tengiz. Mr. Cheney made all that possible while with Halliburton——- I think he might have bribed some folks over there. Lots of oil and gas but not any good ways to get it out.  The cheapest way to get it out—- oil down through Iraq on into Kuwait where old GW had some friends. And then for Gas out through that god forsaken Afghanistan on down to China. Now all that is easy to prove with the real facts used by most in journalism today——whoops I forgot about the White House talking points that come out daily for our Free Press here in America during the BUSH BUNCH YEARS OF TERROR ON US seemed to never report any of the real reasons COULD THAT BE CALLED TREASON?

Yep they use more of their money for social programs because their population is homogeneous and have a common history and language. As they allow more foreigners into their country race riots are breaking out and their social fabric is degenerating. Wait their spending will drop. As to experiencing 2 wars all they have learned is the US has deep pockets so no matter how bad they fail they know we will always be there. Amazing that when they had a problem in their own backyard Bosnia they refused to send 1 troop or plane until the US had ended the conflict. the EU is a group of cowards but is always running their mouth on how to fix our country

WHO WANTS TO GIVE THE COMMAND FOR OUR TROOPS TO RUN HEAD LONG INTO ANOTHER BARRAGE OF MACHINE GUN FIRE, Does our Commander and Chief?

WHO WANTS TO GIVE THE COMMAND COME HOME TROOPS THESE WARS HAVE BEEN ENDED, Does our Commander and Chief?  1-3

A good questions to begin—-did you know that many world leaders in the past have held fast to their views of wars needed and with pride they emerged with their armor on and led their men into battle——- is that something you are willing to do?  If not——then why not?  Is you blood more important that our men and women in uniform today?

If you have doubts like 85% of the American people today——for the need of these two aggravating gnawed awful Bush Bunch of Thugs Wars to continue, why don’t you stop the madness right now?  You have the power we voted you in to get that done, remember?

MY TAKE to hell with what the Bush Bunch of Thugs generals tell you.  Some of them like to see the blood and guts of many men/women boy/girls old folks/mentally ill folks be consumed while in war, regardless if it is JUST or not.

The lust for blood on the battlefield consumes some.  The Black Water debacle proved that to be true——a mercenary likes to kill bottom line. I have seen pictures from the DR CONGO that shows the godlessness of those acts.  Is that what you are too? 

Do you repel then revolt as a real man should——- when seeing and knowing the real facts of war——or do you go into a shell of seemed deep thought when knowing all the details about the terror in horrors of what is really going on—- caused by the Bush Bunch of Thugs IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN wars?

WHO WANTS TO GIVE THE COMMAND 2-3

Then we hear daily the overworked word transparency—-from our supposed free and unbiased press, but many of us know the horrors that go untold.  You knew before elected and even more today that all that was just a CIA LIE to keep the wars going on. 

The American media moguls need the Bush Bunch of Thugs Wars to go on——to feed their bosses the makers of the tools of war in America.  And like many in Congress and you too to some degree that get the trickle down of big bloodletting bucks to keep you campaigning for reelection from the first day you took the oath of office—-thanks to ole crooked as hell Karl Rove [that is going to be behind bars or of to the gallows soon] that is his credit to humanity. MY GOD FORBIDS.

And like all the other despots against the human race he and his seed with pay now or some day, for that has been and will be the way the deck of cards called life begins giving them bust hands one right after another. FOR MY GOD IS NOT MOCKED.

Now if you need a script to justify your actions to try to be a PEACE MAKER there are many good retired military men that could write it for you.  If you persist to push the Bush Bunch of Thugs need for war—- then when will you be found out to be a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

And then when will you tell your daughters that their dad is a Bush Bunch Warmongering Thug too? 

Could that million-dollar movie/rock star smile just be the way you have conned the world people and us all along? And is it in you to lust for bloodshed on your watch?  And what will we allow you to get by with after having all your words down comparing them daily to your deeds done in a strict legal like comparison?

Are you one who likes wrongful bloodshed and the continuation of our ruination of our American name among civilized mankind?  Like was done by the pirate puppet pervert GW Bush the bandit Ole Dubai——-walking and talking like a gunslinger from way back—but a yellow streak 10 miles long running down his back.  He is going down too for MY GOD IS NOT MOCKED.

A coward in all ways ole Dubai was and still is today but daddy Bush did it first and sonny boy just followed in the same footsteps telling lies to all then joking and jeering at how dumb we Americans were to give him and daddy the keys to our Great American Ship called Freedom.

And many more than NOT were dumb ass Americans with their heads in the sand –voting with their pocket books instead of conscience and they just went along for the ride because they had no skin in the game.  Our blacks, Hispanics and poor men and women from the ghettos filled the bill, some other hard core military families led their young to follow——- some have lost and some have lost much but refuse to say how much, guilt shame and blame have consumed them.

MY TAKE I believe an American subculture exist today and there are many that just like the bloodletting of war as long as it is not theirs. MY GOD FORBIDS

For a long time now the mean cruel vicious vile and evil of mankind called our politicians have caused a scourge on all of us?  And we——if not repentant soon will pay the price, as a society for MY GOD IS NOT MOCKED.

So President or Emperor Obama are these Bush Bunch of Thugs Wars really needed and if so—- what are the spoils of these wars? And who is going to reap the benefits? 

And if you allow these crimes against mankind to go on——- are you going to take the lead and be the first President or Emperor to attend every funeral of every fallen soldier from this day forward?

WHO WANTS TO GIVE THE COMMAND 3-3

Arriving in a hum vee—-wearing a military uniform as they wore in battle with no strips no tailoring done just military issue all the way no signs of nobility or elitism just plain and simple no starch and present your self as their real commander and chief filled with grief at the price they wrongfully paid giving their one and only life while working in a very thankless very bad job.

Will you do that for them and us till you finally get it WAR IS HELL and we, as a Nation should only use the act of war as a defense?

NOW son I am your senior——- you need to end these Bush Bunch of Thugs needless blood and lust filled unjustifiable wars right now?

MY TAKE remembering back to my Dad now gone—- what a hell of a guy, He liked to laugh and cut up but he was always ready to get in anyone’s face that he didn’t like.  And the way to get his dander up was when any one demeaned any other wrongfully.  He saw all in the human race to be equal.

When the Vietnam war came real close to our home, for I was in the process of being drafted, Dad a veteran submarine hand from the Pacific told no one, he took off work and went down to the recruiter who he knew well, to re-enlist and go fight.

“Mr. Baker you are too old I can’t let you do that!”

“ Bullshit Dad said yes you can, I had rather go and fight the fight for I would do it right not wrong.”

“ Mr. Baker what does that mean?”

“Well it is simple that Vietnam war is wrong there has never been a clear reason for going, now we have over 40,000 of our men like I was once——dead as hell and NO SOB cares. But I do——- So I want to go right now, do you really get what I am telling you?  I might just get over there and find the biggest SOB around and put him in his proper place on the ground with my boot over his throat”

“Mr. Baker now what in the hell would that prove?”

“Well son you have not been to war but I have and I have fought many men in my times and you have not, I have stood by my ship mates and watched their life ooze out of them and you have not——so the first rule of a dispute or war is you must first get the biggest SOB attention”

MY TAKE ON THE FIX
KIND OF LIKE DAD PUTTING HIS BOOT ON THE BIGGEST SOB NECK
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WAR WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
War is a widow maker
A heartbreaker
A terrible menace to all
It feeds those that have
A sinister
NEED for Greed

War machines get a lions share of the
Treasury
Our homeless and helpless
Need OUR UNLIMITED care and concern
Tragedy never succeeds and never ends
Generation after generation
Seem to forget history

They continue to send their daughters and sons
To pick up the guns
Of war

Against others who
Themselves are afflicted
With the pestilence of those
That has that devilish
NEED for GREED

So on man goes to perceive
The answers
But in doing that
Many perceive that is a waste of time
The study of history
Gives way back to the
Comic books

Since the very beginning
Land and others lives has been sought by those that have the
NEED for GREED

The Kings blood has seldom been spilled

Instead they SEND an ALARM a cry for the bold
Those that have been brow beat to think that
War is good
To enlist and lay down their life
For those that have the
NEED for GREED

SAYING the battle cry is so good that ONE should GIVE their life for
WAGING these WARS for the KING

So WE fellow humans should take a better look
At the HISTORY books

And once and for all lay down our
spears and swords
And all look for another day to come SOON
When we will all be RULED by Our CREATORS
Ways Will and Words for his creation
MAN

WHO HAS NO
NEED FOR GREED

By DWIGHT BAKER ú2006

mandinka—“dear delphi non = NONE, NADA of the commitments are for combat troops. As usual France is sending there crack munitions.. all of there arms come in with a sign “never used dropped only once”.
Unfortunately you reinterpreted the data to make you feel good.” If they are not combat troops—GOOD! The article didnt state “combat troops”. you reinterpreted what i said to make you feel good..or something like that…so the M-16s are going to fire blanks, or what?? The EU never intended there to be combat forces in this “war on terror”—but many ended up having to shoot back. The EU should not sacrifice its social safety net for uS wars of Empire…neither should the uS, but, we always will.

WHY would that “make me feel good”, if I am against the uS in the war, the EU in the “war”—against everybody “in the war”. I have no idea what you mean…

dear delphi non = NONE, NADA of the commitments are for combat troops. As usual France is sending there crack munitions.. all of there arms come in with a sign “never used dropped only once”.
Unfortunately you reinterpreted the data to make you feel good.

Kipling happens to be one of my favorite poets, KDelphi, and ever since the Soviet war in Afghanistan, that verse has been in my mind.

mandinka—did you read the article?? Small point, but, you really should…“had much of a reply—65 men with two F-16s promised by Belgium; 12 trainers and a small troop contingent (probably from the gendarmerie) for the elections in Afghanistan next month, with a larger French contribution to the new, combined European Gendarmerie Force that has already dispatched 300 to 400 men and women, all to improve Afghanistan’s own national police, so far without conspicuous success.”
WHAT “money and production”??

The reason the EU has more money to spend on its own people, is that they have a drastically smaller military budget. One reason that they have a smaller budget, is that Europe learned, from two WW’s , that almost killed of its male population, that they were sick to death of it—literally. The govts and multi-natls of the EU might still grudgingly want out military bases around, to protect corporate interests, but most of the people of Europe think that it just make them a target…

Damn! Paul_GA beat me to it! lol Does anyone else seem to remember that Pres. Putin sent Dubby a copy of that poem , prior to the “invasion”? (we were already in Afghanistan, so , not really an invasion…we’re here, we’re there we’re everywhere)...)

Perhaps unfortunately, the uS seems determined not to take its place in the universe of failed Empires, and, save its own people. It seems determined to (blow someone else up) with a bang.

WHAT ABOUT THE WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN THAT WERE SO WRONG WHEN POLITICKING?
THUS HOW DOES A PLAN FOR CHANGE RUN OUT OF GAS BEFORE IT GETS STARTED? 

There must be and evil so deep and so disguised that most of the American people got conned.  How could that be?  Are some just turned that way to pretend then go on their way just mouthing words that have no merit?  And making promises to do such and such and have no thoughts whatsoever of doing?

So how does a man that stands up and mouths the words for change run out of gas before he even gets started?

NOW LISTEN TO THIS SHORT MESSAGE
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/538.html

So was the man that took America by storm and impressed the many common folks around the world just a con artist at heart and sought out to be a ROCK STAR? Was he just one more clown dressed up in a Presidential suit with college degrees and some good work habits that the Bilderbergers had hand picked to continue the rape of our nation?  Had he intentionally put his family at risk of death if he got in the way of the Bildebergers devious work being done while he was at the helm of our Great American ship?  Had he traded his human one and only soul for that lust of being a ROCK STAR?

Had that man forgot that when doing one deal with the devil of mankind that the first time is never the last?  The only way to get out—- is die. Had that man forgot that the Internet generation would be looking in at what he did every day with long memories and sad times during the BUSH BUNCH THUGS at the helm?

HOW DOES A PLAN FOR CHANGE RUN OUT OF GAS BEFORE IT GETS STARTED?  Here is that same question again staring at all of us in the face, and some livid would say WE TOLD YOU SO bimbo.  And others in stark denial of the real facts at hand comparing his words with his deeds—- have said just give that man a little more time, things will change.

MY TAKE, we must awake right now and begin a hard push to get our voices and votes heard and taken for real now.  Some are just so happy –that they were right about that man and our generation of time on earth—- to some weird mindset they will now see another age of darkness come where women and children the aged and those opposed to that man with suffer the most horrible deaths right and left. And for those kind of folks to want to become any part of a community of folks for the common good of all I doubt if just one would ever come forward to volunteer. For as I have seen commenting on TRUTHDIG and others places too many in America today that are not inane to political things are so tied up in being right and have words filed with flights of fancy in seemed astute knowledge I have no hope of any of them to come to the forefront and say how can we help. I am not the only one of that opinion it is heard every day 24/7. Some have no clue what to do, but we do.

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All independant military abservers agree that the US can’t win in the Afpak war.  But if Obama can prevent a loss until after his next election, he won’t be attacked for losing it. So he has Zionist, cheerleader and military-industrial support for keeping the blood flowing until after the next election.

It’s not under Obama’s management its HIS war and he’s said it numerous times. Funny though after bashing this country and telling everyone how great they are he didn’t get 1 troop for the war. The like me like me scenario has never worked. All Europe has ever wanted is our money and production and this empty suit falls for it. I guess that’s what you get when someone’s education was based on affirmative action and Saudi oil money

President Obama has bowed to the Bilderbergs his willful disregard to prove his worth has not been seen in his words and deeds as being NOT one in the same.

The Bilderbergs agendas are well-stated world domination. And on his staff and he is adding daily the pundits and puppets as morons that answer to that group elite’s beckon and call.

And from olden times the Bilderbergs have been building their banker boys as troops to take over as world tyrants and President Obama with his deeds proving——is right there with them.

Now will President Obama be the first commander and chief to get the axe of impeachment in less time than it takes to have a Pro football season?

HOW DARE WE THINK LOGICALLY USING COMMON SENSE AND REASON
ANY LONGER? That might offend some in our CONGRESS and PENTAGON and for the many that represent us called the BILDERBERGS? 

I believe the proof of the needless wars have come into the light.  Now why should we stay?  Not one good sane sound reason.

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan what should we do as a Nation?
MY TAKE——just leave right now and don’t look back——two wrongs never made a right.
THE FIX——Tell the generals to get out right now—-and don’t leave that bunch with anything they can use for war against each other.  When our troops get home give them the best that we can give them in the many kinds of stimulus packages going around today.
THE FIX BACK HOME—- give our troops returning home first grabs at all jobs being created by the stimulus money.

LAST A GOOD QUOTE

America is false to the past, false to the present, and solemnly binds herself to be false to the future.

At a time like this, a scorching iron, not convincing argument, is needed.

Fredrick Douglas

I think Pfaff has run out of things to say that are meaningful so he’s just out there throwing red meat to “The Contingent”.

It’s so sad when left-wingers start to Hannity their analysis.

And why are they doing that, Prole? Because they’re full of hubris—they think the USA can do anything. They have no Plan B in case the USA does implode, as Samosamo describes, and the money spigot is turned off.

“The Europeans don’t have a dog in the fight against the Taliban” - and presumably Michael Vick doesn’t either - but someone else far more influential in “institutionalized foreign policy opinion” making in Washington, now seems committed “to making overseas contingency operations a permanent feature of American life”. The same someone that was behind the Iraq debacle and a lot of other American foreign policy follies, in fact. Yes, the only nominal ‘ally’ whose opinion i.e. orders really count, the terrorist Jewish State. Israel’s “Racist in Chief” and new foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman gave an interview to his hometown newspaper in Russia this week in which he spelled things out quite explicitly: “Pakistan is nuclear and unstable, and Afghanistan is faced with a potential Taliban takeover, and the combination form a contiguous area of radicalism ruled in the spirit of Bin Laden,” Lieberman told Russian daily ‘Moskovskiy Komosolets’. “I do not think that this makes anyone in China, Russia or the US happy… These countries (Pakistan and Afghanistan) are a threat not only to Israel, but to the global order as a whole.” Further, “Iran is not Israel’s biggest strategic threat, rather Afghanistan and Pakistan are,” he declared. The strategic threat coming from Iraq was ranked as the third most important issue of concern for the racist Jewish state by the Israeli foreign minister. So once again it all fits, the U.S. dog being wagged by its zionist tail. AIPAC stooge Obama has his marching orders from the elders of zion and here we go again. “Bad enough that the United States is humiliated once again in a useless war” for Israel’s benefit but at least the European’s don’t have to be jerked around by jingoistic Jews. “The allies are justified in taking a pass.” After all this is “contributing to the existing hatred of” not just “non-Westerners toward Washington” but many principled Westerners themselves, too. Where is the prescient Charles Lindbergh when you need him? He was ahead of his time. He tried to warn us about intervention in foreign wars. Fascism has come to Amerika at last, not in the person of great American patriots and populists like Lindy and Huey Long but in the sinister guise of zionazis like Avigdor Lieberman; imported not from fascist Germany but from fascist Israel.

What is it that makes obama think he needs to keep america in the imperial empire wars at the cost of losing america by implosion? I am not so ignorant as to think there are none that are telling obama what to do. Hell, even w & dick were following orders and that stench is strongest from the corporate sector.

Why, it is obvious, since they have offshored all our jobs hollowed out our manufacturing base just to end the ‘high’ cost of labor so these oh so patriotic american corporations can maintain an unsustainable ponzi scheme of investing. And add to that cost cutting, the move offshore to keep from paying taxes because what is left of america’s workers will provide that.

The heart of this is the corporation’s lobbyists paying bribes to our complicit electorate. Regulate both of those areas and there might just be chance of real relief for this country. Breaking up the conservative owned and controlled mainstream media would be another major priority. The problem there, though, is hoping the aloof electorate would work for those that elected them to office.

I am not sure what europe’s thinking is but the decision to let america handle its own collapse of its empire is a correct one and their handling of criminals against their states is done way better that america’s corporate world will allow, where we still have to fight an insane war against ‘terrorists’. Obama is corporate!

Afghanistan is the “Graveyard of Empires”, they say; it may yet be the graveyard of the American empire, too. As Kipling wrote:

“When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
And go to your God like a soldier.”

The United States government in their foreign policy seems to determined to continue what was foolishly started by the British, in the heady days of empire. Now it is the Anglo-American war against the “white man’s burden” as they use to say, and now a newly elected U.S. President is attempting to cajole the European countries into joining their murderous folly. This is where the rubber actually hits the road. With the glaring example of France’s mistreatment of Algeria, most of the European troubles with the Islamic world stem from the Middle East, not Afghanistan, Pakistan or India, where England cut its colonial teeth, and now first cousin Obama claims to want to take the fight right to their own backyard. Good luck to that. Maybe Obama’s much touted faith will carry his mission through, where the godless Soviet Union, miserably failed.