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How Can You Trust the Cowardly BBC?

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Battle at the Beeb: The BBC Trust has found fault with coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by Middle East Editor Jeremy Bowen, pictured. Clearly, Robert Fisk disagrees.

By Robert Fisk

Editor’s note: This article was originally printed in The Independent. For more background on the Bowen-BBC Trust dispute, see the links provided on the original article page or click here.

The BBC Trust’s report on Jeremy Bowen’s dispatches from the Middle East is pusillanimous, cowardly, outrageous, factually wrong and ethically dishonest.

But I am mincing my words.

The trust—how I love that word which so dishonours everything about the BBC—has collapsed, in the most shameful way, against the usual Israeli lobbyists who have claimed— against all the facts—that Bowen was wrong to tell the truth.

Let’s go step by step through this pitiful business. Zionism does indeed instinctively “push out” the frontier. The new Israeli wall—longer and taller than the Berlin Wall although the BBC management cowards still insist its reporters call it a “security barrier” (the translation of the East German phrase for the Berlin Wall)—has gobbled up another 10 per cent of the 22 per cent of “Palestine” that Arafat/Mahmoud Abbas were supposed to negotiate. Bowen’s own brilliant book on the 1967 war, Six Days, makes this land-grab perfectly clear.

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Anyone who has read the history of Zionism will be aware that its aim was to dispossess the Arabs and take over Palestine. Why else are Zionists continuing to steal Arab land for Jews, and Jews only, against all international law? Who for a moment can contradict that this defies everyone’s interpretation of international law except its own?

Even when the International Court in The Hague stated that the Israeli wall was illegal—the BBC, at this point, was calling it a “fence”!—Israel simply claimed that the court was wrong.

UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338 called upon Israel to withdraw its forces from territories that it occupied in the 1967 war—and it refused to do so. The Americans stated for more than 30 years that Israel’s actions were illegal—until the gutless George Bush accepted Israel had the right to keep these illegally held territories. Thus the BBC Trust—how cruel that word “trust” now becomes—has gone along with the Bush definition of Israel’s new boundaries (inside Arab land, of course).

The BBC’s preposterous committee claims that Bowen’s article “breached the rules [sic] on impartiality” because “readers might come away from the article thinking that the interpretation offered was the only sensible view of the war”.

Well, yes of course. Because I suppose the BBC believes that Israel’s claim to own land which in fact belongs to other people is another “sensible” view of the war. The BBC Trust—and I now find this word nauseous each time I tap it on my laptop—says that Bowen didn’t give evidence to prove the Jewish settlement at Har Homa was illegal. But the US authorities said so, right from the start. Our own late foreign secretary, Robin Cook—under screamed abuse from Zionists when he visited the settlement—said the same thing. The fact that the BBC Trust uses the Hebrew name for Har Homa—not the original Arab name, Jebel Abu Ghoneim—shows just how far it is now a mouthpiece for the Israeli lobby which so diligently abused Bowen.

Haaretz gave considerable space to the BBC’s findings yesterday. I’m not surprised. But why is it that Haaretz’s top correspondents—Amira Hass and Gideon Levy—write so much more courageously about the human rights abuses of Israeli troops (and war crimes) than the BBC has ever dared to do? Whenever I’m asked by lecture audiences around the world if they should trust the BBC, I tell them to trust Amira and Gideon more than they should ever believe in the wretched broadcasting station. I’m afraid it’s the same old story. If you allow yourself to bow down before those who wish you to deviate from the truth, you will stay on your knees forever.

And this, remember, is the same institution which said that to broadcast an appeal for medicines for wounded Palestinians in Gaza might upset its “neutrality”. Legless Palestinian children clearly don’t count as much as the BBC’s pompous executives.

How do we solve this problem? Well I can certainly advise viewers to turn to Sky TV’s infinitely tougher coverage of the Middle East and—I admit I contribute to this particular station—I can recommend the courage with which Al-Jazeera English covers Gaza and the rest of the Palestinian-Israeli war.

I can well see how BBC executives will say that this article of mine today is “over the top”. Jeremy Bowen may indeed think the same. But the First World War metaphor would be correct. For Bowen and his colleagues are truly lions led by BBC management donkeys.


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By firefly, April 22 at 11:30 pm #

As usual Robert Fisk is right on the ball. For sometime now, the BBC has refused to publish any criticism of Israel on its ‘Have Your Say’ blog and only, I mean only, posts the rabid anti-Palestinian commentary, leading one to believe that the majority of the world supports Israel’s actions. The question is how? and why?

The leaders of the Western world consistently seem to be playing a game of school yard bully, ganging up against other nations as and when it feels like it, despite there being absolutely no sound rationale at all.

It is hard to understand what goes on behind the scenes; why Obama and European leaders are all ‘playing’ along with this duplicitous pretence.

Why does Israel have such a hold over the West and the UN?
Why is it possible to get Western leaders to unanimously condemn North Korea, Russia and Iran, but turn a blind eye to the contraventions of Israel and the West?
Are we really supposed to accept that leaders of small Eastern European countries and Africa can be fairly punished under international law, whilst the crimes of the US, Israel and Western Europe go unpunished?

What has happened to independent, factual and honest reporting?

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By freddythefrog, April 22 at 6:52 pm #

“@ Howard, April 21 at 11:21 pm “

Why is the border even there? If not to create a gulag/ghetto/hell hole.
Whether another country opens it’s borders or not is immaterial, and an attempt at a distraction from Israeli human rights abuses.

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By Ed Harges, April 22 at 6:19 pm #

We can all see that in the US and Britain (as well as a number of other countries), Zionists have political and economic power wildly disproportionate to the number of Jews in the general population, and that this power is used for the benefit of a voraciously aggressive, expansionist foreign government — and to the detriment of the countries of which these Zionists are ostensibly citizens.

But the more uncomfortable questions are: how are these fanatics able to acquire this power, and what would it take to break this power?

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By NYCartist, April 22 at 5:40 pm #

The article on the BBC News home page, as I type, on Israel quoting that (in the title) “followed the law in Gaza” seems to back up the title of Robert Fisk’s article here. The story didn’t have much disputing the Israel government point of view, I don’t think.

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By NYCartist, April 22 at 5:38 pm #

The article on the BBC News home page, as I type, on Israel says it “followed the law in Gaza” seems to back up the title of Robert Fisk’s article here.

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By Robert, April 22 at 4:10 pm #

The Israel Lobby

Video Documentary - VPRO

“For many years now the American foreign policy has been characterized by the strong tie between the United States and Israel. Does the United States in fact keep Israel on its feet? And how long will it continue to do so?

In March 2006 the American political scientists John Mearsheimer (University of Chicago) and Steve Walt (Harvard) published the controversial article ‘The Israel Lobby and US foreign policy’. In it they state that it is not, or no longer, expedient for the US to support and protect present-day Israel. The documentary sheds light on both parties involved in the discussion: those who wish to maintain the strong tie between the US and Israel, and those who were critical of it and not infrequently became ‘victims’ of the lobby.

The question arises to what extend the pro-Israel lobby ultimately determines the military and political importance of Israel itself. Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson (Colin Powell’s former chief-of-staff) explains how the lobby’s influence affects the decision-making structure in the White House.

With political scientist John Mearsheimer, neocon Richard Perle, lobby organization AIPAC, televangelist John Hagee, historian Tony Judt, Human Rights Watch director Kenneth Roth, colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, Democrat Earl Hilliard, Israeli peace negotiator Daniel Levy and investigative journalist Michael Massing.”

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Click on link to watch video:


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20155.htm

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By thebeerdoctor, April 22 at 7:56 am #

re: Truedigger3

Here is a quote from this morning’s Washington Post:
“Iran, which unlike Israel has signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty has insisted it has a right to peacefully develop nuclear power and is not developing nuclear weapons capability. Israel is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons, though it does not publicly acknowledge having the capability.”
Even from the spineless Washington Post, a bit of the actual truth slips out. This is the NW that dare not speak its name. No wonder President Obama avoided Helen Thomas’ question at the first news conference, about what countries in the Middle East do have nuclear weapons.
Although former president Carter has said the awful two words, our current President refuses to publicly acknowledge what Iran already knows. What a dangerous charade.

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By truedigger3, April 22 at 6:33 am #

Howard wrote:
“Israel not only opens the border with gaza for essentials; but does it when there continues to be firings on the crossing areas by the hamas gunman.
  btw, where is the help from Egypt ?
  And the hospitals in Israel treat hundreds of ill gazans and always have.”
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Here we go again with Howard and his blatant lies
and fabrications.

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By Howard, April 21 at 11:21 pm #

Israel not only opens the border with gaza for essentials; but does it when there continues to be firings on the crossing areas by the hamas gunman.
  btw, where is the help from Egypt ?
  And the hospitals in Israel treat hundreds of ill gazans and always have.

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By Robert, April 21 at 7:19 pm #

Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, April 2009, pages 7-9

Special Report

Israel Changes Leaders But Not Its Goal: No Palestinian State

By Rachelle Marshall


“Israel has succeeded in killing everything except the will of the people.—Taher al-Nuni, Hamas spokesman, Jan. 19, 2009.

THE FINAL scenes of the award-winning Israeli film, “Waltz With Bashir,” are still photos taken in Beirut in September 1982, the morning after Christian Phalangists armed and trained by Israel murdered up to a thousand Palestinian civilians in Sabra and Shatila, Palestinian refugees camps on the outskirts of the city. As the militiamen went about their killing, Israeli soldiers on a nearby hilltop fired flares to light their way. When an Israeli officer telephoned Defense Minister Ariel Sharon in the middle of the night to tell him that a massacre of civilians was taking place, Sharon thanked the caller and went back to sleep.

The pictures of broken bodies of old men, women, and children strewn haphazardly over the ground are graphically suggestive of the horror recently inflicted on the people of Gaza. The Israeli assault in late December and January killed more than 1,300 Gazans, including 300 children. Like the nightmare that took place in Beirut 26 years ago, the Israeli attack was on a defenseless population that had no bomb shelters, no warning sirens, and no adequate means of caring for the victims.

In each case Israel’s target was not an opposing army but a civilian society. Abdul Hamid Khdair, a security guard at the ruined shell of Gaza’s parliament building, said, “Everyone was hit by Israel this time. Education, health, life. Everything is paralyzed.”

Israel claimed the purpose of the offensive was to stop Hamas’ rocketing of Israel, but it was clear the intent was to destroy Gaza as a functioning community.

The military under Defense Minister Ehud Barak began planning the offensive in June 2008, at the start of a six-month truce with Hamas that called for Israel to lift the blockade of Gaza in return for a halt in the rocketing. Israel instead tightened the siege, and used the sporadic and mostly harmless rocket attacks as an excuse to turn Gaza into a free-fire zone. The first targets were police and fire stations, public institutions, and water and power lines.

During the next three weeks Israeli missiles leveled the parliament building, mosques, the central courthouse, the Ministry of Justice, the main U.N. food storage warehouse, and the Red Crescent Society hospital. The science lab at Islamic University’s highly regarded medical school was destroyed.

Because Gaza is so densely populated, the result was a human catastrophe. John Ging, head of U.N. relief operations in Gaza, reported that by the time the bombing eased off, 400,000 Gazans had been without running water for three weeks, 20,000 homes were destroyed or damaged, and 100,000 people were homeless. In the town of Beit Hanoun, 30,000 tons of sewage flowed in the streets every hour. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch accused the Israeli army of using white phosphorous, which burns human flesh to the bone and has been banned for use against civilians.

Almost as cruel as its wanton destruction was Israel’s refusal afterwards to open the borders in order to allow in building materials, machinery, tools, and other items desperately needed for Gaza’s reconstruction. Contrary to their promises, the Israelis also obstructed the delivery of humanitarian aid. The New York Times reported on Jan. 27 that hundreds of trucks carrying clothing, baby food, rice, juice, sugar and flour donated from around the world “sat in the hot sun, going nowhere” at the border.”


http://www.wrmea.com/archives/April_2009/0904007.html

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By Robert, April 21 at 6:35 pm #

NU’s Katz reminds Emanuel he’s Jewish
Apr 19, 2009 22:40 | Updated Apr 20, 2009 6:28

By MATTHEW WAGNER

 
“National Union chairman Ya’acov “Ketzele” Katz sent a letter to White House chief-of-staff Rahm Emanuel last week admonishing him not to forget his Jewish and Israeli origins.

Katz’s missive came in response to a reported verbal exchange between Emanuel and an unidentified American Jewish leader.

Katz claims that in a private meeting with the unnamed leader, Emanuel said, “In the next four years, there will be a peace agreement with the Palestinians on the basis of two states for two peoples, and it does not matter to us who is the prime minister.”

In the letter, a Hebrew version of which was provided to The Jerusalem Post by Katz’s parliamentary aide, Katz wrote: “For many Israelis, this report is a cause for worry because it reveals a condescending attitude toward our prime minister and Israeli public opinion. This is an attitude that Israel does not expect from a real friend such as the US, and all the more so from an Israeli Jew who has succeeded in being appointed White House chief-of-staff.”

Katz went on to compare Emanuel to the biblical Esther, who ended up at using her influence with Persian King Ahashverosh to intervene on behalf of the Jews of the Persian Empire.

“For if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance for the Jews will arise from another place, but you and your father’s family will perish. And who knows but that you have come to royal position for such a time as this?” Katz wrote, quoting from the Book of Esther (4:14).

Katz was hinting that Emanuel should use his influence to protect Israeli interests, which, he believes, are best served by preventing the creation of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

Emanuel was born in Chicago in 1959. His father, Benjamin M. Emanuel, a Jerusalem-born pediatrician, was a member of the IZL (Irgun).

Rahm Emanuel and his brothers attended summer camp in Israel. Emanuel and his wife, Amy Rule, are members of Anshe Sholom B’nai Israel, a modern Orthodox congregation in Chicago. They have a son and two daughters; the older two attend the same Conservative day school Emanuel himself attended as a child.

During the Clinton administration he directed the details of the 1993 Rose Garden signing ceremony for the Oslo Accords, down to the choreography of the handshake between prime minister Yitzhak Rabin and PLO leader Yasser Arafat.

In November, Emanuel said US President Barack Obama did not need his influence to “orientate his policy toward Israel.”

Meanwhile, the National Union said it was never officially notified by the Likud that it would not be entering the new government coalition.

“Basically, we are still waiting for a telephone call,” Harel Cohen, secretary of the NU’s rabbinic council, said on Sunday.

“Up until the swearing in of the new government, we were still receiving signals from the Likud that we were wanted in the coalition,” Cohen said.

He also said that in principle, there was nothing in the Netanyahu government’s platform that would prevent the NU from joining the coalition.

“Obviously, if the present government adopts a ‘two-states for two peoples’ solution, that would be problematic. But so far that has not happened.”

The NU’s rabbinic council, which gives final approval for all of the party’s political decisions, released a letter of support for Katz.

The council, whose members include Hebron-Kiryat Arba Rabbi Dov Lior, Beit El Rabbi Zalman Melamed and Rabbi Ya’acov Yosef, son of Shas spiritual mentor Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, responded to claims that Katz had made “outrageous demands” that kept the NU out of the coalition.

Rather, according to the rabbis, it was a sudden, inexplicable change of mood in the Likud.”


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239710730438&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

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By truedigger3, April 21 at 4:15 pm #

Ed Harges wrote:

“and the fact that much evidence suggests that the “bad-Muslim-Arabs-versus-good-Christian-black-people” nature of the conflict is a simplistic fiction promoted by pro-Israel zealots, the better to turn the situation into propaganda for their purposes.”
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That is 100% correct.  Both factions in the Darfour
conflict are ethnically the same which is Muslim Arabs
The trouble in Darfour started when oil was discovered there.  Then encouraged by clandestine foreign hands, some people in Darfour wants to secede
from Sudan to keep all the oil revenues.
In nutshell, that is reason for that conflict.

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By Virginia777, April 21 at 11:05 am #

Exactly!!

and yes, thats what trolls do, they are media manipulators, thats why they are running all over Truthdig. There is too much Truth going on here, the thing they can’t stand.

Of course we care about the suffering in Darfur, but the way that suffering has been magnified (by very wealthy interests) in our Press,

is ridiculous!! we are not Stupid. we do not like to be manipulated, and especially for war interests.

also I noticed the troll start to scream that I was an Israel hater -

and I hadn’t even mentioned Israel!

he/she immediately made that connection to Darfur, hmmm I wonder why?

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By Ed Harges, April 21 at 8:53 am #

re: By Virginia777, April 20 at 8:14 pm:

Very interesting, Virginia777. And speaking of Israel and the Darfur Distraction Campaign, did you notice how the “liberal” Zionist Sepharad willfully mischaracterized your skepticism and mine about the wisdom of intervention in Darfur? In a post about how the whole world is distressingly full of pro-Arab partisans, Seph wrote something like, “I find the denials from Ed and Virginia about the suffering taking place in Darfur particularly disturbing.”

I don’t think either you or I wrote anything to suggest that horrible sufferings and crimes are not happening in Darfur, or that we oppose a US “humanitarian” military assault on Darfur because we’re “pro-Arab”!

Your opposition to intervention and mine has to do with the fact that equal and far worse sufferings are going on in lots of places that have for some reason not been selected by the pro-Israel crowd for liberal outrage and calls for military intervention; the fact that our country is going bankrupt and creating billions of enemies by trying to police the world out of the very questionable goodness of our hearts; and the fact that much evidence suggests that the “bad-Muslim-Arabs-versus-good-Christian-black-people” nature of the conflict is a simplistic fiction promoted by pro-Israel zealots, the better to turn the situation into propaganda for their purposes.

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By Virginia777, April 20 at 8:14 pm #

Ed, regarding your comment on how much longer will even comments be allowed to be published,

I keep an eye on NY Times Save Darfur-stooge Nicholas Kristof and on the very day he published his article detailing his and George Clooney’s “Save” Darfur visit to Washington,

they closed comments that same morning, on the article and on his blog.

I bitched about it to the public editor, to no avail.

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By Ed Harges, April 20 at 6:31 pm #

re: By pabelmont, April 20 at 8:04 am:

Pabelmont wants to know how Israel manages to have such a high degree of control over US foreign policy.

I think something often overlooked is that the Israel lobby is the only political force in the US that is fiercely shielded from scrutiny by many people who actually oppose its policies. Many liberal Jews who actually disagree with the much of the agenda pursued by Israel through its lobbyists and agents in our government nevertheless explode with hostility if anyone points out what Israel is doing through its lobby and how powerful it is. The fact that people are afraid even to mention the existence of the Israel lobby tremendously increases its power and impunity. It can do in broad daylight what anyone else would have to do with much more subtlety.

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By truedigger3, April 20 at 5:48 pm #

Robert Fisk asked:“How Can You Trust the Cowardly BBC?”
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Robert Fisk must be very naive or satiring to ask such a question!!. The BBC is a mouth-piece of the British government which is completely in bed with
Israel. If anyone want real news, there is only the internet which I hope will not be compromised or
censored as big brother marches on.

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By Howard, April 20 at 5:48 pm #

Anyone know where the zionist organization is in the U. S. ?
  I doubt very much, indeed, that they are as powerful as some of the paranoid commentators here speak of them.
  But perhaps it would pay to join a group that is that successful.  Find out how they do it. Ya’ know. Learn ‘sumpin.  Eh?

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By Folktruther, April 20 at 3:22 pm #

Pabelmont raises a good question.  How did Zionism get so powerful in the Western tradition?  It is after all primarily a Christian tradition.  This is a subject for an honest historical analysis of the process.

Jane Harmon, the Zionist shill from Venice, Cal in the House, has also been wiretapped being successfully lobbied by Aipac to defend Israeli-Amerian agents.  She is the sponsor of the Thought Control bill, to attack Internet truthers BEFORE any crime has been committed.  With Zionist sponosrship, it passed the House 404-6.

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By Clonakilty32, April 20 at 1:58 pm #
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The BBC is blatantly biased and their bias is pro Israel.  So why bother to read or listen to BBC reports when they cannot report a unbiased news report with anything regarding Israel?  Israel is a repulsively racist country and the BBC supports that.

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By NYCartist, April 20 at 11:09 am #

I have been listening to (on WBAI and DemocracyNow)and reading Robert Fisk (online for last year plus).  His work is in a context and he has credibility.

On the BBC: I have been listening to the BBC during the (now) brief overnight on weekdays (1 hour) and longer on the weekend overnights going into Sun.and Mon. mornings on NPR radio.  The BBC has never been good on Iraq “war” coverage either.

The English government needs to be put in context in re Israel, and in re everyplace England had empire and how it was divided as England was exiting.  Arun Ganhi, grandson of Mahatma Gandhi, put it well: England created borders/ divisions so there would be fighting afterwards.  And it’s still ongoing all around the world.

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By pabelmont, April 20 at 8:04 am #
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How does Israel manage to control not only the US, Canadian, and UK governments, but also the BBC? Wow. And here we thought there was (in the UK) an independent press.  Did the pro-Israel censorship at BBC begin after BBC began its US-service and was the censorship a quid pro quo for a money-making deal with US interests (which were already under the Israeli heel)?

If Israel has the power to control Washington, as it sometimes seems, is it because of a nuclear threat? If so, a threat against the US? [I often imagine “sleeper” nuclear bombs nestled amongst the A/C equipment atop tall NYC buildings, put there by Israel-controlled contractors, got there off non-inspected ships. Do I have an overheated imagination? Of course.] [As they say in NYC subways, where fear of terrorism is taught daily, “If you see something, say something.” I see a possibility. And I see what looks like otherwise unexplained Israeli power over the US.]

If, to the contrary, as one could so easily imagine, the US has the power to control Israel but instead goes along, then it must be in the so-called US-national-interest to do so. Does this mean that the US policy is driven by (and US-national-interest is calculated from the demands of) the industrial-defense-Congressional-media-complex (and that this powerful conglomerate profits so very much from non-resolution of I/P conflict that it trumps the often-declared (but perhaps wholly illusory) US national interest in a “just and lasting Middle East peace”? If so, glad to know the US is controlled by someone OTHER than the big banks (or is this massive conglomerate merely another manifestation of the big banks?).

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By thebeerdoctor, April 20 at 7:30 am #

re: Jon

Jon accurately describes what has happened to the radio known as the BBC World Service. Their recent ridiculous coverage of the assault on Gaza, revealed an “objective” callousness beyond comprehension. So it is entirely in order that they would refuse to air appeals for humanitarian aid.
But the real problem here in the United States, is that too many people in general accept the Zionist narrative because after all, is that not what their elected officials are telling them, and going out of your way to discover the actual uncomfortable truth, who in this television controlled country wants to do that?
The link posted to the AIPAC conversation reveals the cynical manipulation involved, but who bloody cares? Certainly not President Obama, and certainly not the BBC.
Perhaps it is suffice to say that the first job of the Zionist lobby is to convince you that they do not exist.

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By keepyourheaddown, April 20 at 2:37 am #
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the israelis have already dug their own grave, they are the nazis of palestine…
they are so stupid and pathetic…
the old ways of thinking and acting are useless and they will ultimately cause their own destruction…
GROW THE FUCK UP ALL YOU USELESS AND STUPID PEOPLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST!
YOUR CONSTANT KILLING IS PATHETIC

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By Robert, April 19 at 9:43 pm #

By Ed Harges, April 19 at 3:24 pm #

“As Tony Wicher and Inherit the Wind have pointed out, it’s inherently anti-Semitic to say that the Israel lobby has the power to shape US policy on the Middle East.

And as the Israel lobby knows, you can wield an enormous amount of power if people believe it’s morally unacceptable even to point out that you have any power at all.”
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Ed Harges…take a moment to read the full transcript of how AIPAC works & manipulates our US elected officials to get what it wants for Israel.


The Complete Unexpurgated AIPAC Tape

(Following is a transcript of the Oct. 22, 1992 conversation with President David Steiner of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) recorded without his knowledge by New York businessman Haim (Harry) Katz. Its existence was first revealed to the Washington Times and its release triggered Steiner’s resignation.)


“DS: Yeah! Well, we might lose him. There’s been such a sea change, such trouble this year, I can’t believe all our friends that are in trouble. Because there’s an anti-incumbency mood, and foreign aid has not been popular. You know what I got for, I met with [U.S. Secretary of State] Jim Baker and I cut a deal with him. I got, besides the $3 billion, you know they’re looking for the Jewish votes, and I’ll tell him whatever he wants to hear. . .

HK: Right.

DS: Besides the $10 billion in loan guarantees which was a fabulous thing, $3 billion in foreign, in military aid, and I got almost a billion dollars in other goodies that people don’t even know about.

HK: Such as?

DS: $700 million in military draw-down, from equipment that the United States Army’s going to give to Israel; $200 million the U.S. government is going to preposition materials in Israel, which Israel can draw upon; put them in the global warning protection system; so when if there’s a missile fired, they’ll get the same advanced notification that the U.S., is notified, joint military exercises—I’ve got a whole shopping list of things.

HK: So this is from Baker?

DS: From Baker and from the Pentagon.

HK: So, not so, not.. .

DS: Why did he do it, you know, why did he do it? Last year I was a bum. This year I said look Jim, we’re going to fight on the F-l5s. Israel doesn’t want to fight, I said, but some people on it are going to come up on the floor of the Senate and the House and they’re going to fight. If you’ll do this, I think I can hold them back. But you’ve got to do it right away. They didn’t want to fight. I said, “You don’t want a fight before the election. It’s going to hurt Bush. We don’t want a fight before the election. We don’t want to fight at all. Why can’t we work something out?” So we cut a deal. You can’t repeat this.

HK: You’re right. But you met with Baker. . .

DS: Personally.

HK: Personally. Because you know, he’s the one who cursed, who cursed the Jews.

DS: Of course, do you think I’m ever going to forgive him for that?

HK: Unbelievable. I said…

DS: Do you think I could ever forgive Bush for what he did September 12th a year ago? What he said about the Jews for lobbying in Washington?

HK: Do you think that Baker has a legitimate concern for the Jews? From what I hear, do you think he’s anti-Semitic?

DS: I wouldn’t go so far as to say that. He’s a pragmatic businessman, he’s a very tough lawyer. He does whatever it takes.”

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For the rest of AIPAC’s tape transcript…click on link:

http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/1292/9212013.html

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By Ed Harges, April 19 at 8:03 pm #

re: By Jon, April 19 at 2:10 pm:

Yeah, that was absolutely astounding, that the BBC was forced by Israel not to air appeals for humanitarian aid to Gaza. This alone is proof that Israel, through its ideological “children” all over the world, is coming close to having world-wide veto power over what we’re all allowed to say and hear. In the US, Al-Jazeera English is effectively banned. I don’t know quite how “tiny” Israel does it, but clearly it’s effective: they control the main outlets in our information environment.  Who knows how much longer it will be possible even to post anonymously about it on blogs like this?

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By Ed Harges, April 19 at 7:51 pm #

re: By PSmith, April 19 at 4:36 pm:

The big change in the BBC came after Israel’s 2006 assault on Lebanon. Israel was furious at BBC coverage unflattering to the morally superior Israelis. The BBC was then targeted for evisceration by the British equivalent of our own Israel lobby.

Even the major Spanish-language network in the US has been bought by a fanatical (and non-hispanic) American Zionist who has said in an interview, “I’m a one-issue guy, and that issue is Israel.” Israel has its partisans in charge of all the major news conduits in the English-speaking world — even the ones that are in Spanish! And if you point this out, Israel’s thought police will scream, “How could Israel have so much power? It’s such a teeny, tiny little country. This shows you to be an anti-Semite. And by the way, now that you’re branded, good luck getting a job in journalism, law, banking, politics, or academia — not that we have any power or anything….”

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By PSmith, April 19 at 4:36 pm #

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@ Jon, April 19 at 2:10 pm #
> Over the years, and I specifically mean since about 1990, I’ve noticed the BBC WS has stopped its in-depth programming, and has instead become a version of CNN Headline News for radio.

Now that you mention it, that seems bang on.

One (generally) does not listen to it for four hours straight, when what you describe is immediately obvious.

The other difficulty is that on the internet one has to select a single program or a five minute news bulletin. Then one hears a _very_ limited range of programs. Perhaps only the same one or two each day, every day.

It used to be possible to hear From Our Own Correspondent on R4. And one assumed that it was on the WS too. But haven’t heard it in a decade ... That was tremendously informative.

Which might suggest the need to be more varied in one’s program choice.

AL JAZEERA

Al-Jazeera - agreed. Plus the fact that they all have British accents and or London backgrounds means that it sounds like home from home.

Though on many, many stories about the non-Middle East they have appalling pro-Neocon talking point stories. Incredibly so. Georgia vs Russia was a case in point. They had zero of the news that it was actually a Georgian attack on Russia and not vice-versa. Al-J was then completely useless and nearly as irritating as the US MSM.

Do they get those stories from wire services? Because they are pure fantasy. In a Neocon stooge way.

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By Ed Harges, April 19 at 3:24 pm #

As Tony Wicher and Inherit the Wind have pointed out, it’s inherently anti-Semitic to say that the Israel lobby has the power to shape US policy on the Middle East.

And as the Israel lobby knows, you can wield an enormous amount of power if people believe it’s morally unacceptable even to point out that you have any power at all.

This is the incredibly effective force multiplier that maintains the silence of the liberals, insuring that even under a “liberal” President, our policy on Israel/Palestine stays stuck at the right end of the spectrum.

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By Jon, April 19 at 2:10 pm #
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I’ve been a BBC World Service listener since 1965, when I was 9.  Over the years, and I specifically mean since about 1990, I’ve noticed the BBC WS has stopped its in-depth programming, and has instead become a version of CNN Headline News for radio—-rotating over and over each hour the same stories, with minor updates.  Gone were/are the field reporting that made the BBC WS valuable.  By contrast, I recently heard the BBC WS News Hour, when its presenter spoke to an advocate of ‘green transportation’ made a case for high mileage cars, ask “well, but won’t that mean that those cars won’t be as fast?” 

I’ve noted that the WS has had guest interview segments with the likes of Ann Coulter, and others that we in the US are very familiar with via the Fox News channel.

Lately, I noted that the BBC declined an appeal for Gaza on the basis that to promote the appeal would impair the corporation’s objectivity.  That was the last ‘click’ for me.  I realized that the BBC WS and its international coverage in general is just a reflection of the Foreign Office, not truly objective at all. 

Thus, I’ve dropped the BBC, and have instead begun watching Al Jazeera English on the ‘net. (via livestation.com)  Far more objective, on the ground, and immediate than the BBC will ever be.

Ironically, this AJE channel is mainly staffed by ex BBC reporters.  They know.

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By thebeerdoctor, April 19 at 1:25 pm #

re: Purple Girl, Fadel Abdallah, Robert, etc.

Having just watched the ending segment of President Obama’s news conference, the President went about to simply talk himself into a circle, as to why the United States will not be attending the World Conference Against Racism that begins tomorrow. Of course (and even BHO in his casual way admitted) that the United States refuses to attend any forum that acknowledges that Zionism is a form of racism.
But as intelligent folks have pointed out on this site and elsewhere, any political or ethnic ideology that advocates geographical expansion as a Divine right, is fundamentally racist, whether it is called “fighting back on the white man’s burden” or “manifest destiny” or “conversion by the sword”.
Absolutely incredible that barbaric acts once seen and used in their primitive manifestation, are suddenly given new justification, once they become the high tech efficient instruments of War Incorporated, with its incessant call to use and thus create a need for more products.
President Obama this morning tried to smooth off the hard edge with his reply to the Racism Conference question. Nevertheless, it does not change the fact that the United States foreign policy in the Middle East is that on an Israeli owned puppet.

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By Robert, April 19 at 12:28 pm #

Weekend Edition
April 17-20, 2009

Israel’s Political and Moral Regression

The Curious Case of Benjamin Netanyahu

By RANNIE AMIRI

“It is one of the great paradoxes of the modern Middle East:

When peace with the Palestinians is in sight, Israel will turn violent.

This is quite understandable though, when one realizes that the entire raison d’être of the Jewish state is based on the principle of establishing “greater Israel.” That could not happen of course, were there to be a just peace. As the country’s first prime minister David Ben-Gurion infamously proclaimed, “To maintain the status quo will not do. We have to set up a dynamic state bent upon expansion.”

Relinquishing conquered territory, ending occupation, halting further settlement activity (let alone dismantling existing ones), stopping home demolitions or anything deemed to conflict with this fundamental objective will never be (seriously) considered.

Israel has also attempted to persuade us that it cannot but be on a constant war-footing. The reality is however, that an enemy must necessarily be present – or created – so it can avoid having to reach an equitable settlement with the Palestinians.

Israel’s siege and subsequent attack on Gaza was a prime example.”


http://www.counterpunch.org/amiri04172009.html

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By Folktruther, April 19 at 11:17 am #

The major problem with the British media being a tool for Zionsism is that, because the American media is Zionist, we have relied on British media to take up the slack.  If this valuable source of information is polluted by Zionism as well, it cuts off our understanding of current events.

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By photoshock, April 19 at 9:52 am #

Mr. Fisk, how dare you question the BBC?  Don’t you know that they are the leaders of the world press and the most unquestionably unbiased news agency in the world? 
Well, la di da for the BBC! In point of fact they are now no more than a mouthpiece for the Zionists and not reporting the GENOCIDE and ethnic cleansing that is occurring on a daily basis, while the Western World sits idly by and does nothing to stop this illegal and immoral act from happening.
Given half a chance, the Zionazis would and could kill every Palestinian in the land of Palestine without a second thought. 
Men like Benjamin Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman, are the backbone of the movement to cleanse the Palestinian land of Palestinians. Now wonder why?
Are the Zionists so intent on destroying the Palestinians that they would deliberately commit acts
of genocide and of such brutality that they are the worlds worst?  The obvious answer is YES, you idiots at the Beeb! No wonder people do not want to support the BBC with their money any longer, I would not either.

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By Fadel Abdallah, April 19 at 9:38 am #

Well, I would not loose additional sleep over a new minor coward being added to the very big club of cowards. However, I have been loosing sleep and health over the big hypocrite cowards of the world like the US and European political-military-industrial complexes, who were at the root of the Middle East problems and continue to be part of the problem, yet they keep playing the ugly game of posing as relevant mediators, while always cowardly and hypocritically taking the extreme position of terrorist, occupier and fascist Israel!

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By lester333, April 19 at 9:20 am #

Screw the Israeli leaders, the Congressional members of this country, the Sec. of State, and the President for their elite, and selfish ignorance in human affairs.  Too bad there is no damn God to get them in the end and give them what they deserve.  Tolerance coupled with pacivism is a vice because they will never stop if we do not call them out and defend ourselves.

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By Purple Girl, April 19 at 7:28 am #

Racism is the refusal to make truthful statments about a person/action merely because of their Race.
So it is just a racist to Coddle and conjole when none is warratned nor derserved.
Isreal has played the ‘Anti Semite’ card far too many times. Thrown it on the table to get their way or be given priviledges they have not earned. It can no longer be an ‘Ace in the Hole’ (Or up their sleeve) whenever a discussion comes regarding solving the problems of the M.E. which have Ultimately effected the entire World.This Isreali/Palistinian conflict ahs created undue tensions/conflicts between the West & East for far too long.
Isreal has requested too much from their friends in the UK &US;, esp since We were never inflicted any suffering upon their community. Why must we continue to pay for the sins of others in the past? In fact since we can not change the past, and Decades/ millenia have passed why should anyone be held responsible (or be required to repay a ‘debt’) of ‘Fathers’ long since dead & gone.
The best kind of Friend Tells you when you are Wrong- in hopes of sparing you any hardship.Nor should Such a Friend be expected to placate to a point of Their detriment too.No Good True Friend Should or Would.
Isreal has failed to reciprocate the friendships which have defended them in Word & Action and have even take a Beating for their cause.
Instead of defusing situations that have led to terrorist attacks against their ‘friends’, they have only perpetuated them- Brutally savaging Gaza and encouraging Saber Rattling with the Boastful but ill equipped Iran.
Isreal has banked on two falsehoods- That all UK &  US citizens consider that scratch of Dirt worth another World War and that if they should use Nukes they will be immune to our retribution.The use of Nukes is a Crime Against Humanity- no matter Who uses it.
And as for that so called ‘HolyLand’- God would be Blessing Humanity if 3 Lightening Bolts destroyed those Brick & Mortar symbols of Idolatry. It has been the Epicenter of Mans Inhumanity to Man as well as Acts of heresy, for Millenia.

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By thebeerdoctor, April 19 at 6:03 am #

At one time it was generally considered that BBC news had a more objective view when covering Middle East events. That of course was an illusion. An illusion that no longer exists, due to what Mr. Fisk describes. Now actions once considered a violation of all human decency are now justified through a continuous process of equivocating, what their brethren over at Fox News Corp call “fair and balanced as always”.

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By Robert, April 18 at 9:34 pm #

APARTHEID ~~ YOU PROTEST, YOU DIE!

April 18, 2009 at 6:56 am

“It is often said that Israel is the ‘only Democracy in the Middle East’. Apparently this is true….. if you are an Israeli soldier on a mission to kill.

Yesterday, at the ongoing weekly demonstration against the wall of apartheid in the occupied Palestinian town of Bil’in, a Palestinian protester was killed while speaking to a group of Israeli soldiers. The man was unarmed, the man was not a terrorist…. but he WAS a Palestinian. THIS ALONE is a crime in this Democratic wonderland.

See for yourself the murder as filmed by a news team from Reuters. See for yourself where U S taxpayers dollars are going…. See it HERE…

Is this the ‘Change’ President Obama speaks of? Is this the solution his representative George Mitchell speaks of when he calls for the creation of a Palestinian State? Does he envision a Palestine without Palestinians as the Israeli government obviously does?

On Monday in Durban, apartheid will be both discussed and condemned by the righteous leaders of the world. It will be interesting to see who will NOT be there….. Just how long will this be allowed to continue?


WHERE IS THE CHANGE???”


http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/apartheid-you-protest-you-die/

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By P. T., April 18 at 7:35 pm #

When Saddam Hussein was claiming Kuwait, the mainstream media did not refer to it as disputed territory.  For occupied Palestinian land, however, such media equivocate.  They really are spineless.

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By Folktruther, April 18 at 5:46 pm #

Zionism in the Western countries are clearly united on increasing the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians,  Israel has issued a plan to increase the half million settlers by two hundred thouseand, and has already started blowing up Palestinian homes to accomodate them.  Possibly under cover of another war, perhaps against Iran, Israel will military devastate the Palestinian people.

This is all being done under the fake US-Israeli Peace Process.

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By geronimo, April 18 at 5:18 pm #
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None Of Us Will Be Free Until The Last Chain Is Broken

“Based on?”

“Give me liberty or give me death.”

“And the Zionist entity Israel?

“That last chain.”

“Based on?”

“One victory being what it’s going to take.”

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By skulz fontaine, April 18 at 4:47 pm #

Okay Mr. Fisk, wait for it… wait for it… ready? “Raving Aunty Semite!” How dare you criticise. “BBC management as donkeys?” As in braying? Stubborn? Cantankerous?
Israel isn’t going to like what you said. Nope, not a bit. Right on Mr. Fisk, right on!

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