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The Point of Pointing FingersPosted on Mar 11, 2009By E.J. Dionne Maybe pragmatism isn’t enough after all. President Obama regularly speaks disdainfully of “ideology,” says he is focused only on “what works,” and loves to be described as “pragmatic.” Well, sure. No one ever admits to being an ideologue, and as historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. observed many years ago, democratic government should be about “the search for remedy.” But there comes a time when first principles need to be articulated. The economic crisis has let loose a furious philosophical debate over the meltdown, its causes and its cures. Conservatives have entered this fight with guns blazing while progressives have hidden behind a Maginot Line armed only with the word pragmatism. This is surprising. Not for 80 years has there been a more opportune time to make the case for the bankruptcy of conservative ideas because the economic downturn came after nearly every conservative nostrum had become national policy. Advertisement And it has all come crashing down. Conservatives know that if the narrative I just offered takes hold, they and their ideas will be forced into the wilderness for a generation or more. So they are shrewdly changing the story line, trying to pretend that the last eight years or even the last 30 years don’t matter. They are trying to blame everything on Obama policies that have been operational for just a few weeks. And they are fighting for keeps. They are right to do so, because ideologically, the country is now on a knife edge. The conventional view, pushed hard by conservatives, is that we are a “center-right” nation because polls tend to show that there are roughly three conservatives for every two liberals, with the rest of the country in the middle. But a new report released Wednesday by the Center for American Progress suggests a more complicated and interesting picture. Rather than rely on the three-way liberal/moderate/conservative ideological matrix, the center’s poll offered respondents five choices: the old three, plus “progressive” and “libertarian.” The result: 36 percent of Americans say they are conservative or libertarian—all but 2 percent of these are conservatives—while 31 percent are liberal or progressive, split roughly evenly between the two groups. Moderates (and a small number who picked some other label) accounted for 31 percent. The researchers then pressed moderates to choose up sides. When their choices were added to the others, the result was a nation split in half: 48 percent conservative or libertarian, 47 percent liberal or progressive. Analyzing a long list of questions about specific issues, the center’s researchers concluded that Americans are “solidly center-left in their ideas about [the] role of government, the economy and domestic politics and somewhat less so on cultural and social issues.” Certain conservative themes, notably fears that government spending is “wasteful and inefficient,” remain powerful. “People are quite capable of believing in the need for government investments in education, health and other areas and also believing that government wastes money,” said Ruy Teixeira, a senior fellow at the center-left think tank. The downturn, he added, makes Americans more open to arguments on behalf of “a positive role for government” than they have been for a long time. And it is precisely because of the public’s ideological ambivalence that liberals and progressives need to press their larger arguments on behalf of more economic equality, in defense of government’s necessary role, and against Utopian views of what unfettered capitalism can achieve. The survey found another important ambivalence: sympathy for free-market capitalism in the abstract, but skepticism about the rich and the rewards they reap. The Obama administration is courting danger if it does not offer a clear moral and philosophical analysis of what went wrong in the economy—and an understandable case for what it’s doing to fix things. The worst outcome for Obama would be for the public to see his bank rescue efforts as a colossally inefficient waste of money and as an attempt to rescue the financiers from their own foolishness and greed. This would tag the president with the least popular aspects of both liberalism and conservatism. There would be nothing pragmatic about that. E.J. Dionne’s e-mail address is postchat(at)aol.com. © 2009, Washington Post Writers Group CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment |
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By gerald, March 15, 2009 at 2:47 am #
I agree totally with Confused re the Banking system. I did read an article some time ago that the previous Chancelor of the Exchequers of England confided to one of his underlings, that “the whole banking system is a ‘con’.”
Report thisBy Jim C, March 14, 2009 at 6:25 pm #
One huge problem that is going to have to be addressed before this conservative stranglehold can be broken is media bias . I mean talk radio and the conservative control of information period . As long as a few major conservative corporations are allowed to filter the news and what is seen and heard over the airwaves the public is going to remain confused and frankly , stupified . Even in cities that are overwhelmingly liberal or democratic conservative talk radio dominates , often with no liberal presence at all . Has anyone noticed that on the sunday news programs and morning news republicans outnumber democrats by 2 to 1 ? I don’t know if the democrats are too stupid to figure this out or what . Ever since the fairness doctrine was abolished conservatives have tightened their grip on information with disasterous results . When all one gets is 24/7 conservative diatribe is it any wonder the public is having trouble figuring things out ? This latest copitulation by the democrats in voting to not allow the FCC to reimplement the Fairness Doctrine was mind boggling , what in the hell is wrong with them , they can’t figure this out ? Quick example of what I’m refering to . Stephanie Miller is on 60 radio stations , Laura Ingram is on over 250 . In every single market they compete head to head Miller beats Ingram soundly , so may I ask why more stations don’t either pick up Miller or replace Ingram with her ? Go figure . Thom Hartmann is the 10th most popular radio personality in the business , even though he is broadcast on far fewer stations than his rivals . You mean that no large station has considered that maybe putting Hartmann on their airwaves would be a good business decision ? If the democrats don’t address this and soon they are going to be beaten into oblivion , they need to at least break these media monoplies up , and soon . Make them broadcast news as a requirement to maintain their licenses like they used to have to do , no more infotainment in place of real news . Insist that the radio waves have varying points of view rather than being propaganda for the right wing . Until and unless this is addressed , we’re screwed .
Report thisBy samosamo, March 14, 2009 at 3:32 pm #
By Grappa, March 14 at 12:31 am
I would have to agree with you but hopefully it is a tenuous hold. But it definitely is something obama needs to look at and start correction measures before the end of his 100 days. I suspect that if obama would break up those monopolies and hold corporate speak to stringent integrity(because these conservative corporate owners of the msm are NOT INDIVIDUALS PROTECTED BY THE FREE SPEECH of the 1st amendment) that more people would find some rather ‘interesting’ information to base their decisions. That in itself needs rectification or more and more people will be lulled into believing in corporations, businesses or any group of people that try to use what is called commercial free speech as a means of their buisness as a given. Hell, it is NOT a given. Our drafters of the constitution and bill of rights put that in the bill of rights to protect the people from the corporate world. It basically gives them the right to tell you whatever they wish to tell you to make you believe what they want you to believe.
Report thisNo, free speech is a right defined for an individual on a daily basis, but a business is not included because they have tendancies to say what they will no matter how wrong it is to get your money and control of your life for their enhancement. And think of it this way, and it will take for someone to take this to court, that if this was in the supreme court right now, with the conservatives, neocons at that, in charge of the supreme court, those same judges that appointed w as president will surely still maintain this bogus ‘commercial free speech’ for their buddies in business. This is where we will constantly keep running into w & dick’s handy work until one of those neocon judges die, retire or is impeached and leave their position. Or one of them decides that they are not so neoconistic as he thought and started deciding along liberal or libetarian lines.
By Grappa, March 14, 2009 at 12:31 am #
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It seems that the propaganda effort is being won by the conservatives, most likely this will always be the case as long as the means of electronic communications is owned and controlled by the same people who stand to lose if progressives ,or center left are able to implement their policies. They will send every talking head they have to the air waives to contaminate our efforts with distortions and out right lies, to sway public opinion.
Report thisBy samosamo, March 13, 2009 at 12:24 am #
I think what is evident here is the organization the conservatives started during nixon’s era. It began with the creation of the ‘think tanks’ that began to pop up all over to study, read, discuss, plot, plan and scheme on what agenda to go for and how to gain the power or majority to obtain that power when in the early 1990s the republicans got control of both the senate and the house, didn’t hurt that the supreme court was conservative and not just conservative, ardent federalists as I believe vincent bugliosi said, which made it easy to get w & dick appoint as potus and vpotus and making those 5 judges breakers of the law in doing it.
Report thisSo, what those 30+ years of think tanks(and they are not regulated)have reaped for our country is more than self evident and what those neoconsevative types were accomplishing is what not just the people in this country are living, but the whole world. I would hold these think tanks as basic terrorist organiztions that have devised and plotted the worst terrorist attack against this country for the enrichment of a few at the expense of the taxpayers, and the possible collapse of this country and it is still going on today. One of the few differences in democrat and republican is that conservatives got control of the money and the media and claim it as their ‘spoils’ of governing, not that there were no democrats that were in the program. And that is where the repubs were aggressive and the dems where just acting important.
The work of these think tanks are what will be for long long time still creating false hope and untrusting influence on those that can find no way to get real information because the msm is still not going to start acting like a protector of the democracy’s constitution, bill of rights, declaration of independence and all the laws of the land and the world for no body’s sake except those few ‘elite’ who believe themselves to be masters of the world and especially the United States of America. Maybe obama will one day get around to addressing these issues.
Here is a link to Source Watch, that sort of keeps up with both the conservative and the liberal think tanks:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Think_tanks
By Folktruther, March 12, 2009 at 10:16 pm #
The reason, wildflower, that Obama doesn’t discuss publically the republican deregulation is because the ruling class that owns the means of production, the banks and the media are overwealmingly republican. and Obama needs their money, media and management to get re-elected.
Report thisBy AWM, March 12, 2009 at 6:13 pm #
Confused makes some good points regarding the central banking system but instead of nationalizing the fed it and all central banks should be dismantled. For a good history of the fed one should download and view Wake up Call http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=wake+up+call
Report thisBy geronimo, March 12, 2009 at 5:34 pm #
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Nothing wrong with pragmatism so long as it’s in pursuit of peace on earth and goodwill to all living beings.
Report thisBy wildflower, March 12, 2009 at 5:15 pm #
You’re absolutely right about this, E.J. Dionne. I’ve spent an incredible amount of time talking to people about this economic crisis and it’s amazing how many people do not understand how this crisis developed. They all seem to understand that it involves “greed,” but they don’t understand what led the way to this crisis and the role that “deregulation” and Republican policies have played.
The fact that the Obama/Biden administration hasn’t discussed this is frustrating to say the least. I simply don’t get it. Does the administration believe that the taxpayers are children? If so, they need to snap out it. It’s a critical issue and the American public needs to have a better understanding as to how this economic crisis came to be. They certainly can’t rely on the media for goodness sake.
Report thisBy tom, March 12, 2009 at 2:44 pm #
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I think the problem is believing that politicians will do what the majority want or what is in the majority’s best interst.
I believe they (Republicans and Democrats) actually will do what the very wealthy want, and that isn’t a majority of us. This party vs. party charade only masks that reality.
Report thisBy William W. Wexler, March 12, 2009 at 2:24 pm #
One of the reasons why there aren’t more people who identify themselves as “liberals” is that liberals have generally been cowards. Nobody wants to identify as being a coward.
Having made this largely inflammatory generalization, let me explain it. Yes, I will grant you that there have been a few in-your-face liberals over the last 30 years who have stood up and been counted. I happen to know something about this since I have been an internet slacktavist for 9 years, running one or two anti-Bush websites and spending a lot of time posting on political sites. (This is an affliction which I have grown out of, much to the relief of my wife). My thanks for posting, blogging, demonstrating, etc? Death threats by phone and email. So on a micro scale, I have a teensy weensy bit in common with your Michael Moores and Cindy Sheehans, who are high profile lefties and certainly must have to be accompanied by an armed entourage when they travel. Me, not so much. I just hide out in my anonymity and hope for the best.
So it’s no surprise that people respond that way to polls when “liberals” have taken an incessant tarring and trashing in the conservative media for decades. We just lost an opportunity to fix that by passing a bill that declares that the Fairness Doctrine will never be re-instated. But we NEED something like it to end the use of the public’s airwaves as a tool to promote the ideology of the highest bidder, who we know will always be part of the Party of Money.
I guess what I’m saying is that we need to stop being the group that quietly acquiesces just because we want to get along. We NEED to articulate our point of view, we need to be insistent about issues that matter, we need to demand action and hold people accountable. I would NOT depend on the Democrats to do this “automatically” as they have proven themselves to be unworthy of the name “opposition party” over the last 8 years. They have given Bush everything he asked for and have strenuously avoided holding Bush accountable by taking impeachment “off the table”. There was an article here yesterday where Amy Goodman says that single payer is “off the table”. Well, it’s NOT THEIR DAMN TABLE. It’s OUR table, and we should decide what’s on it, not some chuckle-heads like that bimbo representative from Florida yesterday who didn’t know the difference between animal husbandry and bestiality.
Out of space, so the rant’s over. But the fight is just starting… don’t forget your voice, your spine, and your fists.
-Wexler
Report thisBy Folktruther, March 12, 2009 at 2:03 pm #
AWM has stated it in a nutshell. the American people msut develop a power ideology that rejects both wings of the ruling class’s two parties. Until the American people realize that Obama is selling them out, there is no hope for a true progressive movment.
Report thisBy AWM, March 12, 2009 at 11:35 am #
In recent years it has been so called progressive governments that have done the most damage to the social fabric of their countries. Clinton in the US Cretien In Canada Blair in the UK all deeply slashed social spending and got away with it because they were considered progressives Since all politicians answer to the same masters their agendas are the same When people grow tired of the right our masters give a messiah from the left. When we tire of the left they give us a savior from the right and on and on.Until the majority realizes this we have no hope
Report thisBy Purple Girl, March 12, 2009 at 11:30 am #
One only need to review History to KNOW ‘Trickle Down’ was an ill fated economic Stratedgy- Just ask the english Monarchy (or the French, or Look to the Fall of Rome). This was no ‘flawed’ Logic, it was economic Treason.
Report thisWhen an economy is reliant on production and consumerism (as all are) generated by the sheer numbers of the masses, yet the wealth and resources are siphoned off and hoarded by the top, only providing a Trickle of those ‘Masses’ below, A feudalistic caste system developes, and the entire system collapses on itself…DUH!
This is exactly the Economic injustice the revolutinary War was waged to Free US from- but instead of Family Crests sucking off Our Teat, it’s Logo’s and their Noble elites. Shouldn’t the markets ‘wisedom’ have eliminated the Inept and corrupt CEO’s long ago?No because the so called ‘Free marketeers’ Fear such realities- so they protect each other.
Yet they dare to interchange ‘Socialism’ and Communism, like they are anything alike! ‘For the people & By the People’ is a Socialistic concept.
‘For the Corps and By the Corps’ is basically Communist ideology.
“Give me your Tried, Your Poor’- Socialist pledge to assure all citizens basic needs are met.
Communist, Monarchies and Dictatorhips have no such moratility and Hate Redistribution of Wealth, because it means those who actually generate it through production and consumerism are given back their fair share for their efforts- No cream to siphon off.They also work to bar the masses from actually participating in the Free market- devouring or destroying ‘Mom & pop’ operations. Most poignant example- Our Family farmers are back to being endentured slaves to Big agri Business!!
Socialist? Damn Right we are a good dose of Socialist- just read our Founding Documents, esp the one which Delared our independence from all Tryannical and oppressive Entities.. It starts out ‘We the people’.
The Repugs and their Corp Overlords are not only in the Wrong Country, they’re in the Wrong Historical Era!They have committed Economic Treason through ‘Trickle Down’, deregulation and Unfair labor laws and inequitable international trade deals.this was no damn mistake, no ‘flawed’ logic, it was Treason with forethought and malice!The Red Coat Repugs have destroyed what so many died to establish and so many have died to protect and defend…A country ‘For the People and By the People’, Yes basically a socialist nation
By Druthers, March 12, 2009 at 11:20 am #
AWM - “more dangerous”
Impossible! Perhaps down the road but not Obama/Biden. While I regret the choices Obama is making, especially the people he is surrounding himself with there is a world between the nightmarish eight years we have experienced and a president with a brain and the power-mad paranoid B/Ch administration.
Report thisBy Confused, March 12, 2009 at 11:09 am #
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Why don’t we start talking about the REAL upper class, since the Federal Reserve is about as federal as Federal Express. It’s important to keep in mind that those Zombie Banks we’ve been hearing about are the owners of The Federal Reserve. So we have the Zombie Banks who caused all these problems bailing out themselves through THEIR Federal Reserve with OUR money. I think we should nationalize the Fed and cancel all that interest debt we owe them. Why in the world do we need to pay interest to THEM when our government could print its’ own money interest free. The United States of America can no longer afford this CRAZY arrangement that was crafted by Bankers.
Report thisBy AWM, March 12, 2009 at 10:52 am #
Obama and Bush answer to the same masters.This is the classic good cop bad cop routine. The only difference is that Obama will be able to bring in policies that the public would never allow Bush to do. You know what there may be a difference after all Obama could be even more dangerous.
Report thisBy Druthers, March 12, 2009 at 8:15 am #
There have been a succession of steps, the nomination of Rham Emanuel to the WH, Obama’s choice of economic advisors and the application of their policies of “save the banks,” the lack of stringent rules for re-establishing civil liberties, the bungling of several other nominations and now the immediate withdrawal of Freeman when faced by frontal attack led by Schumer and Aipac that lead one to doubt his judgment.
Report thisDoes he not realize that he is confronted by powerful lobbies from inside his own cabinet or does he agree with them? How long will the American people continue to accept being used as a door-mat by the supposed “elites” and Israel?
After eight years of B/Ch, hopes are too high to be dashed without considering the consequences.