And this is the guy who just signed a $400,000,000 contract with Clear Radio? How sad…

Johnny_Wadd?? Are you serious?? LOL!

James , entitled to what ? A decent wage , healtcare , retirement , safe working conditions . It’s called a civilized society dude, it’s how we chose to organize our country . I’m not sure what you mean ” staggering out of their morass ” , the mess we"re and they’re in was caused by unbridled , unregulated capitalism , not socialism . Our unemployeement is probably around 15% or higher , it’s hard to tell since the drooling dumbass ( reagan ) changed the way we compile the numbers , but I can guarentee it’s higher than 12% . Those awful socialist countries you refer to at least have health care and a social safety net and I have neither heard or read nothing about them clammering to imitate our greed based mess . If you can pull yourself out of your conservative fog for an instant you may realize that the world wide meltdown was caused by us , not some socialist boogyman . The only country that is moving away from their social contract is Sweden and that’s because of the way they form their government . Whait until their next election and see if that sticks , I seriously doubt it will .

Browalt , “the spectre of adding millions more unionized do-nothings will not be helpful ” , what exactly does that mean ? I suppose you’d rather have well born wonderkins like , oh , say the bush family dictate how workers are treated . You do realize that the union movement is what created the middle class ? But with a statement like that I seriously doubt if you realize much of anything . So you believe that having the working class who actually make this country great band together as a unit so they can stand up to would be astrocrats is a bad thing ? I don’t know what you do or how much you make , but you can bet that unless you’re a minumum wage bubba in the bible belt living in a trailer you owe a lot to those lazy union organizers and their members . I would guess you have no problem with management working together to drive down wages and worker protections , yet you diminish those who fight for working americans rights , fair wages and working conditions . You might want to study the history of the labor movement and what it was like before it took hold . I would suggest ” The Jungle ” by Upton Sinclair , that might give you a clue , or maybe not . Ignorant statements such as yours make me fear that we may indeed be heading back to the glorious 1880’s to 1930’s era . I hope you enjoy watching your children and grandchildren working 12 to 16 hour days six or seven days a week for slave wages . That’s exactly where that type of mentality and ignorance of history will lead . You seem to be the poster child for what happens when the public education system is allowed to erode and one gets his historical perspective from the likes of limbaugh or shawn hannity .

This mess we are in is a republican mess. Give Rush a handful of Oxycontin to calm him down.

Rush is simply being honest about it. He’s a total fascist, but…I agree with Canadian—I was happy to hear that President Obama had said, “But, I won”. I wish that the Dems would say it again and again.

What, President Obama didnt “get political capital”?? Dubya got alot less.

NOw would be the time, folks.

Bipartisanship is for suckers. GOP knows it—just watch what happens when they are in power, abbetted by the Dems…

I forget how many listen to Limbaugh—-but it is not a majority. Let him lead the fascist Right.They deserve each other.

I personally do not care for any of the personalities that are involved here on this nonsensical merry-go-round. Rush rather disgusts me, while BHO-ites make me want to throw up.

The plain and simple truth is that the BIG FIX is in! We the people have allowed ourselves to become distracted by bread and circuses. The plain and simple hard truth is that the world is already swimming in US dollars, and it has so far only made the whole situation worse. Hyperinflation in the double digits is not a minute possibility-IT IS A LEAD PIPE CINCH ! I just hope and pray that when it hits in three or four years, I will be in a position to survive in Mugabe-ized America. One point is absolutely certain the dollar will not survive long.

Spending money on infrastructure is something we should have been doing for the last 40 years. But having worked for the US government, the spectre of adding millions more unionized do-nothings will not be helpful. Cutting the military by a half to two-thirds in order to finance the whole shebang, will only serve to entice the folks that we owe trillions to to say to themselves, “Golly why don’t we just foreclose and get rich quick!”

Republican governors favor H.R.1. Not surprising. I’m reading the bill now, and now I see how easy it was for Republicans to attack it. Pork, right? Well, you can call it that or you can call it spending on infrastructure. New IT system for some departments, loans for agricultural research, grants for rural broadband, upgrading park service structures, grants for local law enforcement, and on and on. Strictly specified limits on how little is allowed for “administration”. The money must be used to create work and jobs. It must get down to the middle class and fast.
No wonder Republicans hate it.
Frankly, I’m surprised at how a good a bill it is. I’m a little surprised that the media is totally skipping all specifics about the bill—even the $4 billion for our fighting men and women. But if governors don’t want the cash, then I guess Democrats should just target the Democratic states. No sense forcing pork on the Republicans if they don’t want it. Besides if we target the Democratic states that would help the majority of people, right?

Reality based republicans: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28949195

ThnkUbush:

Fadel was man enough and brave enough to accept responsibility and apologize for something to me that went too far. I don’t expect others to do so.  I will continue to disagree vehemently with him all the time, but I STILL say it was a courageous thing for him to do.  Give him that, please.

Fadel:
Nice to have a civilized argument with you! (no sarcasm intended).

I meant understanding, not knowledge.  Sometimes that goes very deep into our spirit.

You allude to a very good point: I believe it was Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes who said the Constitution is not a suicide pact.  That’s very true and we DO limit free speech accordingly.  Two clear-cut examples that have been held up in Court:

1) You can’t cry “FIRE!” in a crowded theater if there isn’t one.  Sure, it’s a “limit” on your free speech, but you don’t have the right to incite people into a deadly panic.

2) You cannot threaten to take someone’s life or assault them to do physical harm.  Yes, we do allow for the figures of speech “If you don’t cut that out I’m gonna beat you up.” But actual real threats and calls for people to attack or murder someone are NOT protected speech.  So I can’t publish in the paper that I’m going to kill someone on such and such a date because he stole my girlfriend.

But a Rush Limbaugh? Let ‘em rant!  He’s now his own worst enemy and I STILL say laughter is the best weapon against a jackass like him.

Even Ann Coulter-geist, whom I think is far, FAR worse than Rush should be allowed to spew her venom until she’s finally recognized as the hateful fascist hack she is.

Creating martyrs is always a bad idea…..

Republicans, forever anointed by bloggers worldwide, as

LIMBAUGH’S LEMMINGS

By the way, “lemmings” are, scientifically speaking, members of the super family Muroidea, which also includes the rats, mice, hamsters, and gerbils.

http://www.bustrush.blogspot.com

jonr - point well taken.

A prominent Republican recently said that Rush is not a Republican, he’s a conservative.  Odd remark and perhaps a portent of impending Limbo exile?

(Of course Republicans do say odd things.  Cindy McCain’s remark during her husband’s campaign that it was time Republicans took off their Republican hats and put on their American hats may have been the most telling revelation of what today’s Republicans are really all about than she realized.)

Fadel Abdallah, January 31 at 7:13 am

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You predicted 9/11 and the recent economic downturn? You are a veritable God.

Your past posts are clearly full of unchecked hatred. And now your dishonesty, and self aggrandizement, is equally evident.

I will never again read your posts.

By Inherit The Wind, January 30 at 8:35 am #

Ah, Fadel!  How many years have you lived here and you still understand NOTHING about America?
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Well Inherit! I made my point of opinion and you made yours and my opinion is as valid as yours! As to your wild statement about me still understanding NOTHING about America, I feel sorry to tell you that your usage of the word “NOTHING” is out of context.

May I tell you that I knew a great deal about America, before my fate brought me here more than 30 years ago! I can claim that my knowledge about America, even when I was in meddle school, was much superior than the average American. By middle school I had studied a great deal about the history, geography and political system of America. In fact, though I hate to brag, I now know much more about America than 95% of Americans. To your surprise, I knew so much about America to the point that I predicted the 9/11 tragedy and the economic collapse of the country I call home now. Mine was an insight that went beyond mere academic knowledge to a deep analysis of causes and effects of history.

Now, going back to the issue that prompted your comment, may I remind you, knowing where you come from, that the Holocaust started with a an intensive ugly campaign of hate and propaganda speech against Jews, not unlike the hate speech of Limbaugh and his elk. The difference between you and me is that you’re willing to risk the prospect of a second holocaust, mini or more, in the name of the unregulated free speech, whereas I am willing to forgo some of my personal freedom as a preventive measure against hate speech that might, and normally does, lead to greater evil.

Thank you for expressing your disagreement with me, albeit in less friendly manner than I expected, especially after I apologized to you for a previous unpleasant exchange, and our agreement to disagree without being disagreeable!

Rush and his Party are responsible for any move towards ‘socialism’. It ahs been their party which has put our country and our econom yin such peril as to requires extraordinary measures. Dems and Liberals ahve been screaming for Regulatory stop gaps for decades. They choose to ignore our conservative demands, and allowed the financial corps Liberal Freedoms with the Free market. They not only too liberties,but killed it, so it is solely their fault should ‘socialistic’ remedies be required.Misery Love company (and so do losers) so it is no surprise Rush et al are trying to throw blame on those who have TRIED to stop them before they ran our Free market over a cliff. Not to mention, ‘Trickle Down’ was the EXACT economic ideology OUR founding fathers waged a Revoluntionary War to escape. American Values? Rush wouldn’t hear them if Paul Revere was screaming them in His Ear!
Socialism comes to America…Let’s all Point our fingers at the Repugs and their Corp masters for attempting to make our country a Feudalistic Caste System- For Every Action there is a equal or greater Reaction.It is the Repugs fault if our Banks are nationalized and our health care socialized. We tried to Stop you, now you have to Eat the consequences.

Shirley, January 30 at 7:08 am #
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We must not purchases products that sponsor this idiot.
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OK! I’m going to start by not buying any oxycontin….

Juan writes:

“Why do republicans want America to fail? It’s simple. If the Obama administration can turn the economy around and bring fairly priced health care to the American people, the Republican Party will be doomed. They will join the Whigs as a footnote to history. Therefore, republicans must try to destroy America for their own survival.”

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That’s the right answer!! If America succeeds, the repiglicans will cease to exist.

Needless-to-say, they’ll cease to exist anyway, swallowed up in their own destruction of America. (It’s not like they have any plans to escape, and where would they go? They don’t all have as much money as RushieBoy)

It’s a typical near-ender mentality. They’re waiting for the Rapture.

Meantime, I know what you’re saying about the “advantages” FatBoy ramble on ITW, but Joe has a point that I think should be considered..

By Joe, January 29 at 8:24 pm #

“The problem with Limbaugh and the other cranks of his sort, is that they may be entertainment for the masses, but they are just plain poisonous to the National dialogue.”

Limbaugh is entertaining for some of us, but there are far too many morons out there who take this shit really seriously, and so that DOES make Limbaugh and his ilk quite poisonous to the National dialogue at a time when we’re already suffering some long term effects of this type of propaganda for the past 8 years.

Sadly, we (as Americans in general) are NOT ‘independent thinkers’ and are therefore easily swayed by bullshit, no matter how illogical or unreasonable it is. These people hang on his every word…

Why do the republicans hate America? I think they hate us for our freedom. They have aligned themselves with al Qaeda as both groups pray for Obama to fail. Why do republicans want America to fail? It’s simple. If the Obama administration can turn the economy around and bring fairly priced health care to the American people, the Republican Party will be doomed. They will join the Whigs as a footnote to history. Therefore, republicans must try to destroy America for their own survival.

Now republicans are holding meetings trying to figure out how to rebrand themselves. How can they convince America that they have the answers when they were driving the bus that took us over the cliff? I’m sure they have researchers combing through everything ever written by Goebbels to find the proper spin.

They are really getting desperate. House minority leader, John Boner, went so far as to meet with Satan in an attempt to sell his soul to make the public favor republicans. Satan turned him down with the reminder that he already owned the souls of all republicans. (Reagan.)

Keep re-writing history you FAT TUB OF SHIT - have a few more Oxycontin and call me in the morning!

I voted for BUSH in 2000 (as an independent) and supported him until I could see what the cowboy wannabee was up to! He had the world the way he wanted it until 2006 or don’t you remember? Limbaugh you are a waste of skin!

The House Republican are playing a losing game so let’s let them. We don’t need any votes there, let them bluster for the benefit of the 25% or so of the people who buy their snake oil.

Obama should not waste the time even trying to talk any sense into these dinosaurs.

“In the grand scheme of things, we the people, must remember that Rush Limbaugh and his ilk are nothing more than comedians in pundit’s clothing.”
They are, so why is it we spend so much time talking about them?  Are you that afraid they are going to cause harm to your beliefs whether they be political or other.  Why is it that nothing is said by the other side about the Air America’s of the world?  Because the only way they become effective is when you worry about them and talk about them.

Fadel Abdallah, January 30 at 7:58 am #

“A society that allows such hateful devilish fascists, such as Limbaugh, to be players and having false propaganda forums, even in the name of freedom of speech, is indeed a sick and unhealthy society that is sowing the seeds of fascism, which its members are bound one day to have a taste of the bitter medicine those fascists prescribe! A civilized society must have clear rules about what’s legitimate freedom of speech issues and what’s destructive evil propaganda inciting hate and promoting falsehoods!”
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Ah, Fadel!  How many years have you lived here and you still understand NOTHING about America?

We understand, as you do not, that the BEST way to shut Rush Limbaugh up is to laugh at him and marginalize him.  Everytime he opens up his yap be sure to remind America that he got fired from Monday Night Football for a racist remark.  He made fun of Michael J. Fox’s twitches from Parkinson’s.

President Obama is able to make a useful tool out of Limbaugh to both marginalize Limbaugh further and to use him as a club over the heads of Re-Thug-licans and they fell into the trap like mice into cheese.

No, in America, the WORST thing you can do is use the Law to shut someone like Limbaugh up.  Then he becomes a martyr and a symbol and a hero.  Far better to use “market forces” to move him outside “The Pale” and let him rant to a diminishing audience.

Freedom of Speech is more precious to Americans than you realize. There are few legitimate reasons to shut it down, like calling for physical attacks on specific people and posting their home addresses and phone number.  But being an obnoxious, racist, inevitably-wrong, lying right-wing buffoon?  Let him rant!  He makes a GREAT target for attacking the GOP.  Why take that away?

Let me put it this way:

“A society that allows such hateful devilish fascists, such as Limbaugh, to be players and having false propaganda forums, even in the name of freedom of speech, is indeed a sick and unhealthy society that is sowing the seeds of fascism, which its members are bound one day to have a taste of the bitter medicine those fascists prescribe! A civilized society must have clear rules about what’s legitimate freedom of speech issues and what’s destructive evil propaganda inciting hate and promoting falsehoods!”

In the grand scheme of things, we the people, must remember that Rush Limbaugh and his ilk are nothing more than comedians in pundit’s clothing.
Rush Limbaugh the self-appointed “Dr. of Democracy,” can and should retire to that sunny island with his pills, the ones that have made him deaf to the sounds of true Americans, losing their jobs, losing their homes and lives, in countless numbers on the altar of “laizzes-faire” capitalism.
Of course for Rush Limbaugh, there is no recession or depression, he makes $50 Million, over the next 5 years for something that anyone can do with their eyes closed.
We of the left, progressives all, must remember that a sense of humor is important when dealing with the “ever so serious” and bombastic Far Right Wing Nuts of the Grand Orgy Party.
Rush Limbaugh is a dinosaur, a thing, that belongs in
the past, to an age when the Repugs, held sway over the country and could do anything they wanted. Yet look where we are now, the economy is free-falling, the job market is shit, we are losing homed people by the thousands every day and more than that the Wall Street Thugs, those gang of thieves, are taking more money from the public coffer, and stealing it away for their bonuses and stock dividends.
Free Market Capitalism, HuH?  If true free market capitalism reigned in this country, then Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, and all the other little toadies with their tongues and hands out
for the public’s money would have been long gone.
It is high time that we the people, demand that they either commit to total free market capitalism or get off the idea that they are the arbiters of public policy.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. While we on the true left laugh at Limbaugh and others of his ilk, they still have an incredibly large and loyal following feeding daily from there chum bucket of hate. They have the power to drag us all down, if we let them.

These Nazis are on the run. They sense the shift in power, and now they may be ever louder and more dangerous than ever.

We all know that Limbaugh, Hannity, and O’reilly are idiots, but millions of americans look to them daily as oracles.

Oh PLEASE Listen to Rush and Sarah. In fact nominate them as your ticket for ‘12!!!
Having Volunteered for the Obama campaign it was difficult to combat the OLD image of McCain. It was a matter of updating republicans on what the ‘latest’ version was saying. Even harder was combating the ‘Hero’ worship.
What a cake walk it will be in ‘12- “Want a Drug addict and a woman who waited 8 hours to seek medical attention for her Down syndrome baby so she could give a speech and fly, then drive, back to Wassila?”
Making Rush and Sarah the ‘leaders’ of the Repugs is as outrageous (and insulting) as naming Timothy Leary and The PETA Gal as leaders of the Dems!
Most Americans Know Rush is ‘Master of his own domain’ with On Air access. Do repugs really want to be considered the Circle Jerk Party?Just about as laughable is Boehner, Canter, Corker and McConnel.
As a Dem, I actaully worry such Republicans like Crist or Snow will move up the ranks.But then again seeing who they are considering for RNC Chair, I have little concerns that they could even make their party competitive again.
The Repugs have got to stop getting their drug supply from Rush, it not only effecting their minds, but inducing heart failure-it’s fatal.

Limbaugh is playing right into the Democrats’ hands.  He is driving the base further and further to the right and isolating that group from the main stream.  The Republicans can only regain power by appealing to a borader cross secliction of the public, not by isolating them.