Separad—I was just thinking of populists, and, yeah, none of them coudlve been elected in idiot America. I miss Molly too. I have to sy, that I dont think that “Shrub” was her bset. I like Bates in Primary Colors , too. I also liked “Wag the Dog”

Obama has shortcomings, I can assure you of that. People have to keep in mind that he is a human being! I mean, seriously, get ahold of yourself!lol

I miss Molly!  She was shredding Shrub on NPR and they broke in to say the North Tower of the WTC was on fire…But she was still right about the putz.

Mo Dowd is but a pale, weak imitation of Molly Ivins.

Sepharad—I loved Ivins—she was a populist.

Do you really think that obama is a “populist”??

Has anyone seen the fat lady sing yet?

ThnkU Thnk, for pointing out all the millions of people’s lives saved by the Heroes Bush and Cheney.  Why, the non-nuclear bombing of LA alone saved millions of lives, allowing all the children to grow up free and happy.

And don’t forget the flying saucers.  Not a single flying saucer attacked the US during the Bushite reign, despite the discovery of possible life on Mars, possibly your native planet.  If it weren’t for people like you, we would never know what a loony fraction of the American people think.  ThnkU Thnk for being U.

Press Release: Change has come to WhiteHouse.gov. Communication. Transparency. Participation. Sounds just like the previous administration right?  Anyone interested interested in getting a RSS feed direct from the White House may want to visit this site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/

Also, for anyone interested in how re-form of the government must begin, I suggest seeing The Essence of Change and learning how TIGR threatens the status quo in the nation’s Capitol. There is also a video there produced by the Obama-Biden transition team that introduces the TIGR concept and mission.

http://windmountain.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/the-essence-of-change/

Did someone tell H.W. Bush to walk like a penguin to his seat in the inauguration to go for the sympathy?
If the Democrats investigate the FISA abuses and CIA torture and reach some level of justice where Bush and some of his cronies go to jail, it’ll be because they killed the goose that laid the golden egg, the USA.
The bushes are the nouveau riche and their attempt to get to a place at the main table of the old money ran amok. 
Now, it looks like no one knows for sure what will develop, but one thing seems likely, the old business-as-usual capitalists’ days are numbered.  The Bushes pissed off the old money, the ones they served for decades.

Sixteen years ago, as another Bush ended his presidency, the retrospective I wrote began by noting that George Herbert Walker Bush once said he’d aspired to the Oval Office because he was awed by “the honor of it all.”

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In 1993, I noted that Bush’s father was a fine public servant but an ineffective leader. His son led with steely determination, and took us down a devastating path.

It is no surprise that in a city like Washington, where the governing principle is ‘appearance=reality’ that such opinions and conclusions are drawn by intelligent, capable people. However, there are alternative ways of connecting the dots, and the picture that emerges as a consequence is probably beyond the horizon of where the MSM is willing to go.

I recommended this conversation on a seperate thread, however I think it is relevent here so, I will mention it again. Please take a few minutes and listen to the recent conversation between Christopher Lydon of Radio Open Source and Russ Baker, author of Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America (Dec. 2008).

You can find the conversation here:
http://www.radioopensource.org/the-bush-mystery-solved-russ-baker/

Richard Clarke’s book entitled, “Against All Enemies”, might be an unintended tip as to who was really at the bottom of 9/11 in the Bush Administration.  That phrase, “against all enemies foreign or domestic” is in the Vice President’s oath, not the President’s.
Clarke, as I found out from “Synthetic Terrorism” by Webster Tarpley, was the first one to put forth the mis-direction to Al Quaeda and bin Laden.  Clarke might’ve unwittingly revealed that the real force of the shadow government in the Bush administration was Cheney.

A man of means was one winter infected with a nasty flu virus which spread to his entire family. Their youngest child died. This tragedy compelled the man to hire the best doctors and researchers to put an end to viral infections.

He mortgaged his home and business to fund this effort and sent his medical team to Uganda where they tirelessly studied the HIV virus.

Meanwhile, back home, the rest of the family, fearful of another bout with the flu, made sure to wash their hands, use disinfectant and get flu vacinations. For the next 7 years no one in the family got the flu.

Now the family is broke, their business collapsed and the study of HIV did not result in the irradication of the flu, but his family did not get sick, so he he is certain he did the right thing!

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There was a president whose country was attacked by terrorists, so he sent his army to attack a nation that had nothing to do with it…

There should be a day of reckoning, and everyone should read, “American Dynasty” by Kevin Phillips, “The Unauthorized Biography of George H. W. Bush”, by Webster Tarpley and see the movie, “There Will Be Blood”, starring Daniel Day Lewis.
It’s not quite clear to me yet that these people didn’t destroy this country.  It’s like you gave the keys to a brand new car to a group of malicious preteens and let them drive it for 8 years.

Tell Congress to support HR 104 and investigate wrongdoing by the Bush administration, including torture and illegal spying on Americans. 
GreenChange.org makes it easy: just go to http://tinyurl.com/85zrq4 and tell your representatives in Congress to support an investigation.

Mollie Ivins tried to warn us about Bush in 2000—her comments, in retrospect, look prophetic:

such as this, on Oct. 19, 2000:

    “I have tried repeatedly to explain to non-Texans just how weak an office the governorship of Texas is, but even if Bush suffers from the illusion that he has a powerful job, he must know he doesn’t work at it by anyone’s measure. The New York Times has just discovered, with an air of great wonder, that Bush doesn’t even work 9 to 5 and that he knocks off work every day for a couple of hours to jog and play video games….I have thought since he first ran that George W. Bush was too light to be governor of Texas. Frankly, I can’t imagine why anyone would consider him for president. He’s not smart, he doesn’t know much, and he doesn’t work hard….The truth is, he is not terribly interested in government or how it works. Damned if I know why he’s running. He is a nice fellow. I’ve always liked him. I like lots of people who I don’t think should be president.”

or this, on November 5th:

    “When all this started, I used to tell people calmly: “Well, I think you ought to look at his record, because it’s pretty clear, and you can make up your mind from that.” Now I feel like standing out by the highway in the rain with a sign that says: “Don’t Vote for George W. Bush — He’s Not Up to the Job.”

I’m sorry — the man is inadequate. You cannot slide through life on your daddy’s name, turning in a poor performance in school and the military, and a distinctly questionable performance in the business world, loaf through a few years in baseball trading Sammy Sosa and then tell outrageous lies about your part-time performance in a powerless job. This is silly.
One of the few truly eerie things about W. is his inability to admit that he did it all on luck. Lots of people are born lucky in life, but they’re not born blind to that fact. No one is asking him to feel guilty about it; awareness would suffice.
I’ve never found Bush ill-intentioned — just oblivious. In fact, I suspect that he’s rather easily touched by people with sadder lives than his own.
What Bush does not get is the connection between policy and results in real people’s lives. He really thinks we’d be better off if most of government was done by charities. He thinks that nice corporate polluters will volunteer to cut down on filth. I know he’s good at politics, but he is not interested in governing. It bores him; he has no attention span for it.
If this were just an election that was going to put a lightweight in the White House, I wouldn’t feel so bad. We can survive that. But I’m not sure that we can survive what comes with Bush, or more precisely, what’s behind him.”

Obama’s quote from Paul’s first letter Tarsus to the Corinthian’s, “put away childish things” must’ve stung poor George W. if even a little bit. Videos of George W. giving the finger to the camera are all over the web.  And the bad fruit didn’t fall far from the tree.  Kevin Philips reported on the Bill Moyers in 2004 that Poppy used to walk around the White House with a mechanical monkey perched on his shoulder.  When someone asked Poppy a question, he’d pull on a string and the monkey would whack himself upside the the head.
Those behaviors can stand alone.  They do not need comment.

ThnkUBush, the possibility of *any* president, regardless of party, taking advantage of a questionable “national emergency”, declaring martial law, dissolving the Congress, and ruling by decree is always there. I trust the Demos no more than I do the Repubs in this regard. Thank Heaven Bush did not, but one of his successors might.

Casy,

Unfortunately you won’t be able to change or dispute the facts. You may think anything you wish regarding me personally, however, the facts will remain the same. How about attacking the facts and not the person?

I don’t give a bunny’s butt that many people disagree with me. I care none about pleasing the masses or justifying my point of view through others. I supported Bill Clinton when he acted on these matters and continued that support for George W. Bush in the same manner.

Yes, the majority today do not support the war. But a full 80% did in the beginning. I, on the other hand, stand both by what I know and by my convictions. At the very least I cannot be accused of being fickle.

I care none which way the political wind blows. In 1998 the Congress passed a law mandating the removal of Saddam Hussein due to the threat he posed. President Clinton signed that law with dire warnings about Hussein. George W. Bush followed that law and got the job done!

As I wrote; you will never be able to change the facts. Only your perceptions will change.

I believe ThnkUBush posts here just to get a rise out of people. He is of course entitled to his opinion, delusional as it is.

Truth of the matter is 78% of people thought Bush did an abyssmal job as President and are ecstatic to see him leave office. ThnkUBush belongs to that incredulous 22% that will gleefully and willingly follow George W. Bush off a cliff. There is no reasoning with people like that. So let him and his ilk be. Let us celebrate the departure of the Idiot-in-Chief! As of noon yesterday, the brain power in the WH just jumped exponentially! We’re going to need it to solve the miriad of problems Dubya left behind.

ThnkUBush is right about one thing though. I thank God for our democracy, imperfect as it is, as it has allowed us to loudly and unequivocably reject George W. Bush. He is now relegated to the pantheon of worst presidents in American history, possibly the worst there ever was.

Inherit The Wind,

O.K.. You never said 100%. You did, however, harangue others here for not seeing what you were so certain was factual. You displayed the confidence of Zeus that you were correct. Bush was going to attack Iran before leaving office. In his wake there would be a third war front for his predecessor. You wrote as if you were absolutely certain of it. Of course you were absolutely wrong. You are now stepping back from what you so confidently and forcefully predicted.

An article in The New York Times, 2 weeks ago Sunday, claimed that as long ago as 2006, the Israelis approached the United States with a request for special bunker-busting bombs and permission to cross Iraqi air space in order to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, but the Bush administration vetoed the plan. Instead, the administration supported a strategy of covert action aimed at delaying the development of Iranian nuclear weapons; it wanted nothing to do with a military strike on Iran. This would indicate that leaks from the Bush administration that the United States was considering strikes on Iranian facilities were, in fact, bluffs. The United States not only was not considering strikes, but was blocking the Israelis from carrying one out. Instead, Washington was focused on highly secret, covert operations.

And Bush invoking Marshall Law in order to stay in office? There was never any indication, of any kind, that you knew what you were writing about and, as is now clear, you were 100% wrong.

Indeed, KDelphi, that’s *exactly* what we need—but there’s only one Ron Paul, and sad to say, he’s getting a bit long on the tooth.

As a possible supplement for impeachment: the provisional Confederate Constitution had a “no-confidence-vote” clause, wherein if the president was voted against by a 3/4ths majority of Congress (the Confederate Provisional Congress was unicameral), he would be immediately removed from office and replaced by the vice-president. The Confederates eventually replaced this with the same mechanism for impeachment found in the US Constitution, but it’s something to think about, nonetheless.

Trigger Finger—We already have a “peaceful means” for removing a president from office.

We just need a Congress with some fricking balls!

As you were entering the helicopter leaving Washington I felt relieved. It was about time. It feels like we have exited the “dark ages”. With the last of the Bushes gone we can start hoping for a better future for our beloved America.
So long W I will not miss you at all.

As the Bard once said, “The evil that men do lives after them/The good is oft interred with their bones.”

So let it be with Bush 43 ...

This is beyond endurance, only a liberal stealth- imperialist could conceive such arrant fatuity. “In foreign policy, it will be decades before we can know the full consequences of Bush’s invasion of Iraq and the failure to have properly planned for an occupation” For anyone without an American flag draped over their eyes, the consequences are glaringly in evidence now. Hundreds of thousands killed, the country in chaos, and widespread deprivation and suffering everywhere. Iraqis don’t have the luxury of affluent Washington Post editorialists to wait decades for some academic dissertation of the consequences of Bush’s bloodbath for American foreign policy interests, the only criterion which seems to matter much to most self-regarding Americans. No doubt, there will be weighty editorials in the Post in coming decades, inventing rationalizations for the unilateral aggression and subsequent deadly debacle, just like there have been to excuse the moral depravity of the invasion of Vietnam. And just as surely, there will be excuses for the abject defeat of American imperialism again, tall tales about ‘noble intentions’ gone awry and an American wehrmacht ‘fighting with one hand tied behind their backs”, etc. The standard liberal dogmas for the wanton violence of a failed American state. The “failure to have properly planned for an occupation” however, is classic liberal apologetics for imperial mayhem. How, pray, does one properly plan for an occupation that is totally illegal and immoral in conception and design? What does proper planning of an occupation consist of, besides, most importantly, not not doing it in the first place? Where does this divine right to plan to occupy a sovereign nation come from, outside of the Ministry of Propaganda at Foggy Bottom and it’s branch offices at the editorial department of the Post and other imperial media organs. Perhaps someone smarter than Americans should ‘properly plan’ an occupation of the U.S. and Israel to rid them of their vast arsenals of WMD. Who knows how it all will go, maybe millions of Americans will be slaughtered in the ‘shock and awe’ that follows, but we can always wait decades to “know the full consequences”, also. No problem. Then too,“The renewed bloodshed in Gaza cannot be laid at Bush’s door.” No, of course not. Bush, after all, in moral indignation and in conformance with the Arms Export Control Act, cut off all military aid to Israel.  There were absolutely no American armaments used by the bandit Jewish State at any time. Additionally, he lodged a vehement protest at the UN and organized a ‘coalition of the willing’ to stop the murderous aggression and end the occupation. Yes, “Bush refused for years to engage the United States in the arduous but necessary duty as an indispensable broker in the Middle East conflict.” - the worst you can possibly fault him for, just like every other well-meaning, benign American president under the thumb of The Lobby, including the newest AIPAC stooge, Obama.  “It is often said that the Bush presidency was defined by the terrorist attacks of” – the U.S. in Iraq and Israel in Palestine (all of it) – “and indeed it was”.  And Obama Copacabana looks set to follow up in similar fashion – no doubt, with similar kudos from the Washington Post apologists for unending American imperialism.

ThnkUBush:

I was never “100% certain”.  You keep saying that. It’s a lie.  I always said I thought it was highly likely these things would happen.

You, on the other hand deny that Bush ever had any plans to attack Iran.  That clearly is not based on fact.  Plans were laid, plans were made, carriers positioned.

I did not start believing Bush would leave office until Friday, when staff turned in their keys and key cards.  In fact, I wasn’t sure of it until CJ Roberts congratulated President Obama.  But MY reasons were as I said before: Because Cheney actually proposed postponing the 2004 election, something NEVER done in the United States.  Anyone who wasn’t scared by that is either a fascist who doesn’t respect democracy or a damned fool.

On a kinder note, I’m glad you respect the awesome ability of the USA to change leaders peacefully, even when they are opponents.  So do I.

I am reminded of Geo. Washington’s comment to John Adams: “I am fairly out and you are fairly in. We shall see who will be happier for it!”

Good Luck, President Obama!  Success!  We ALL need you to succeed, even ThnkUBush!

Bush is not “gone”—his ghosts rattle around the halls of the Capitol buildings of DC, and, around the world , images of naked, hooded men, with battery clamps on their testicles.

As the preacherman said"Let justice flow down like rain”.

Its up to the Dems.

ThnkUBush: a curious fella

“Nobody thought it possible” to prevent another terrorist attack on the homeland? Really? Why wold that be? It took them 7 years from the last attack - also on the WTC - before 9/11, and that was when we were just getting up to speed on terrorism.

Are you counting the election of Hamas among your new democracies?

Better relationships with all those countries? Beside Afganistan, by whose measure are you asserting “better”?

I could go on and on, but why bother? Somehow, I think your mind is made up. Indeed, it was probably fixed at least since this day 8 years ago.

Marie

I hate to rain on your parade but I must.

In 2000 approximately one-half of the voters voted for Bush. They did not expect him to become a failure.

In 2004 more than one-half of the voters voted for Bush. They did not expect him to become a failure.

Is there any reason other than utter naivete to believe that a majority of American voters will never again vote for a person who, as President, will become a failure?

The People do not need historians to know that Bush and Cheney marked the moment when evil emerged into the sunlight.  In the light of day the stench of war for profit was celebrated, greed was worshiped, genocide was applied, honesty trampled upon, lies and deceit elevated, torture embellished, and blood earned rights stolen.  They are devils and despoilers and shall ever be remembered.  They defined the darkness so that we can more clearly see the light.  Today America fought back and will drive them ever deeper into perpetual infamy.

I’m just watching the helicopter give “ole bullshit” his last ride over Washington….So he can view-one last time-the homeless people left by his legacy of ruin…The hungry children with no health care whose parents are unemployed…The jobless whose livlihoods have been sent out of country….the children whose parents are dead or maimed due to the continuation of his egotisticle war….his “banking buddies” in their million dollar penthouses….his loss of power which HE DESERVES…...

What CAN you expect of a CHEERLEADER????

W. who?

Dick N. was only a slimy, clumsy crook.

W. and Co. are successful world wealth and resource raiders and destroyers of nations.

Good job George. Your work here is done.

Stereotyping is so damn easy, a good standard for what is us.

Between snarls and whimpers, the ego-possessed, self-involved, self-indulgent, narcissistic American Boomer, epitomized by Bush, is like a child playing at adult life.  (Sorry Boomers, but if it’s any consolation it was my generation who bore and raised some of you.)

ThnkUBush Yes Bush did declare Martial Law during his reign. During Hurricane Katrina, Blackwater was used and Martial Law was enacted. Those people who tried to get out of the contaminated waters and onto higher dry land under many bridges were threatened whit death and others were actually shot by these hired killers, but those facts were hidden deep and dark in this administrations corrupt history. If you want to know the truth, which obviously you don’t you should watch the Spike Lee documentary “When the Levees Broke”. You will see actual footage in realtime of the actions and lack of from our elected officials.
And the trailers brought in for the survivors were contaminated with deadly chemicals, which if left with all doors and windows for over a year would then be somewhat safer to reside in. Our government has thousands of these trailers left, which they have offered to the remaining Native America Indians who have not be genocided by this government, for free, the Indians only have to pay to have them brought to the reservations in Oklahoma, but the trailers are still toxic for humans to live in. Makes you wonder doesn’t it?

Bush’s brother Marvin was the one working for the World Trade Center security that left his job Sept. 10 2001, which is the date reported at that time by news sites. Since checking the more current fabricated facts, the date has been pushed back. And why if Bush is so honest, did he keep refusing investigations right after the attack happened for years? To hide the truth. You also need to see the base structural support columns at these towers, strange that a so called total collapse into its own footprints, like all other controlled demolitions, had its support columns cut at a 45 degree angle, this would never happened without a lot of HELP and in no way was caused from the planes hitting it 80 stories higher up.

G.W. has had a past history of ruining every business he entered, leaving others to clean up his mess afterwards. The last 8 years are no exception.

Bush may be leaving with peaceful power transition, but did you know that he has had soldiers deployed in this country for “domestic security” in case of civil uprising, depression and wars from the fallout of economic collapse for some time, unknown to most the public. Check out the Republican convention a few months back when even the authorized reporters were beaten and arrested. They are in the archives of Truthdid, also some of the local newspapers allowed this to be printed. Then ask yourself, would you really feel safer if you knew all the facts of what Bush had done to take away your rights?

I would say Bush, for all his speech-communication problems, was a skillful politician who reached his level of incompetence as a generalissimo. “Kept the country safe”? No, but he left an enormous mess for his successor, as Mr. Obama tries to prevent blowback against the USA for its “global war on terrorism” and especially its idiotic “special relationship” with Israel.

ITW,

Have not been reading many posts these days, but 100 percent sure is bordering on insanity sort of like believing the Pope has a 100 percent direct connection to God.  I suspected but was not 100 percent sure, actually could not provide a percentage,  as events unfolded under Bush, the twisted decisions would get worse.  Well they did but not as I suspected.  Bush offered us substantial miniata in the integrity department, so why not call Marshal Law?  Absolutism’s abound in the minds of the ignorant, we have eight years to show learn from.

In the end, our opinions count for little within the grand scheme of things.

mike112769,

“It is very nice to see George Bush leaving.”

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I agree. It’s nice to see Bush leave and the peaceful transition of power take place.

GOD BLESS AMERICA and ALL it’s people!

Inherit The Wind,

And you were 100% certain Bush would attack Iran. You were 100% wrong.

You were 100% certain Bush would invoke Marshal Law and not leave office. You were 100% wrong.

You hold the extremely odd notion that the U.S. President holds some magic power after the largest natural disaster ever to effect the United States. Katrina and it’s aftermath was not a fairy tale. Again 100% wrong.

It took the U.S. government exactly the same amount of time to respond after hurricane Andrew. 72 hours! Once again 100% wrong.

Prognosticating is obviously not your forte.

To thnkubush-You are allowed your opinion….even when the facts contradict your opinion…Inherit The Wind has the facts….

bushies legacy?=ruin of the economy and the death of innocents as well as the “bombing back to the stone age” of a nation where we have no right to be-Lies to justify his own arrogance and stupidity….

A relative of bushies was employed at the World Trade Center but quit his job the day before the planes hit….

It is very nice to see George Bush leaving.

Only 1 out of 5 Americans still believes the nonsense Thnkubush is promoting.

Every time an American soldier dies in Iraq from an IED, that is a terrorist attack on America.

I live 25 miles from where Bush’s first, greatest failure was—the World Trade Center.  Bush was warned, repeatedly and chose to ignore the warnings. 9/11 was preventable, had only Bush done the opposite.

When Bush came into office, a Euro was worth only 90 cents.  Now it’s worth $1.40.

Under George W. Bush, 3 million jobs were created.  Under Bill Clinton, 21 million jobs were created.

Over 10 million people are out of work and that number keeps growing.

Even a simple disaster rescue/recovery program was a total f***up under Bush.  I cannot imagine any other President making such a mess of a natural disaster—and there have been many in my lifetime.

Our economy collapsed for many reasons, but the driving force was Bush draining over 3 TRILLION dollars out of the international credit system with deficit spending and borrowing.  It’s simple Adam Smith supply and demand.  Drain the supply of lendable money and borrowing becomes difficult and expensive.

Deregulation, championed by Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and accelerated under Dumbya made it possible for every crook and crooked scheme to get going without oversight.

Estimates are that Bush has cost America a total of $11 Trillion dollars….That’s $33,000 from every man, woman and child in America.  Have YOU got $33,000 to give up, here, right now for each member of your family?  For a family of four that $132,000!  That’s how much of YOUR money Bush stole for his pals and wasted.

The Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act and revised FISA have done NOTHING to increase our safety, but have severely limited our rights under the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th amendments.

While I would never advocate a physical assault on a President or ex-President, I metaphorically throw a shoe at him, preferably one that’s just stepped in dog-shit, which is STILL better than he deserves.

What he deserves is an orange jump suit for the rest of his life.

7 1/2 years without an attack. How many American lives have been saved? Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands?  Thank you President Bush. Thank you Vice President Cheney. NOBODY thought it possible but, you did it!

The leaders and operatives responsible for 9/11 have been decimated. Usama bin Laden and Dr. Zawahiri no longer hold operational control over what they started. Thank you!

The global shadow narco-banking system that fed our enemies has been dealt a devastating blow. The cost of doing business in the system has risen ten fold. Thank you.

Better relations with China. Better relations with India. Better relations with Pakistan, Afghanistan, Poland and Germany. The closest relationship with the French government the U.S. has had in decades. Thank you.

The number of democracies in the world has risen in 8 years. NATO has been expanded. Thank you.

In the Millennium Challenge several million lives have been saved. Yes, the number is in the MILLIONS. Thank you.

Tens of millions of woman in Afghanistan can now show their faces. Woman can now hold jobs. Woman are, on this day, working in the government. Thank you so very much.

Tens of millions of little girls are now attending school. Schools now teaching math and science has risen over 1000%. No single accomplishment will do a better job of lifting a society out of horrendous poverty. Thank you. Thank you so very much!

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, the UAE, and Egypt have all seen expanded elections at the urging of the U.S. Government. Thank you.

7 1/2 years without an attack. Nobody thought it possible.

Thank you President Bush. Thank you Vice President Cheney. Thanks to all the men and woman who worked in your administration. You ar all heroes.