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Posted on Dec 29, 2008
AP photo / Hatem Moussa

A Palestinian girl wounded in an Israeli missile strike is carried into the emergency area at Shifa hospital in Gaza City.

By Robert Fisk

Editor’s note: This article was originally printed in The Independent.

We’ve got so used to the carnage of the Middle East that we don’t care anymore—providing we don’t offend the Israelis. It’s not clear how many of the Gaza dead are civilians, but the response of the Bush administration, not to mention the pusillanimous reaction of Gordon Brown, reaffirm for Arabs what they have known for decades: however they struggle against their antagonists, the West will take Israel’s side. As usual, the bloodbath was the fault of the Arabs—who, as we all know, only understand force.

Ever since 1948, we’ve been hearing this balderdash from the Israelis—just as Arab nationalists and then Arab Islamists have been peddling their own lies: that the Zionist “death wagon” will be overthrown, that all Jerusalem will be “liberated”. And always Mr Bush Snr or Mr Clinton or Mr Bush Jnr or Mr Blair or Mr Brown have called upon both sides to exercise “restraint”—as if the Palestinians and the Israelis both have F-18s and Merkava tanks and field artillery. Hamas’s home-made rockets have killed just 20 Israelis in eight years, but a day-long blitz by Israeli aircraft that kills almost 300 Palestinians is just par for the course.

The blood-splattering has its own routine. Yes, Hamas provoked Israel’s anger, just as Israel provoked Hamas’s anger, which was provoked by Israel, which was provoked by Hamas, which ... See what I mean? Hamas fires rockets at Israel, Israel bombs Hamas, Hamas fires more rockets and Israel bombs again and ... Got it? And we demand security for Israel—rightly—but overlook this massive and utterly disproportionate slaughter by Israel. It was Madeleine Albright who once said that Israel was “under siege”—as if Palestinian tanks were in the streets of Tel Aviv.

By last night, the exchange rate stood at 296 Palestinians dead for one dead Israeli. Back in 2006, it was 10 Lebanese dead for one Israeli dead. This weekend was the most inflationary exchange rate in a single day since—the 1973 Middle East War? The 1967 Six Day War? The 1956 Suez War? The 1948 Independence/Nakba War? It’s obscene, a gruesome game—which Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, unconsciously admitted when he spoke this weekend to Fox TV. “Our intention is to totally change the rules of the game,” Barak said.

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Exactly. Only the “rules” of the game don’t change. This is a further slippage on the Arab-Israeli exchanges, a percentage slide more awesome than Wall Street’s crashing shares, though of not much interest in the US which—let us remember—made the F-18s and the Hellfire missiles which the Bush administration pleads with Israel to use sparingly.

Quite a lot of the dead this weekend appear to have been Hamas members, but what is it supposed to solve? Is Hamas going to say: “Wow, this blitz is awesome— we’d better recognise the state of Israel, fall in line with the Palestinian Authority, lay down our weapons and pray we are taken prisoner and locked up indefinitely and support a new American ‘peace process’ in the Middle East!” Is that what the Israelis and the Americans and Gordon Brown think Hamas is going to do?

Yes, let’s remember Hamas’s cynicism, the cynicism of all armed Islamist groups. Their need for Muslim martyrs is as crucial to them as Israel’s need to create them. The lesson Israel thinks it is teaching—come to heel or we will crush you—is not the lesson Hamas is learning. Hamas needs violence to emphasise the oppression of the Palestinians—and relies on Israel to provide it. A few rockets into Israel and Israel obliges.

Not a whimper from Tony Blair, the peace envoy to the Middle East who’s never been to Gaza in his current incarnation. Not a bloody word.

We hear the usual Israeli line. General Yaakov Amidror, the former head of the Israeli army’s “research and assessment division” announced that “no country in the world would allow its citizens to be made the target of rocket attacks without taking vigorous steps to defend them”. Quite so. But when the IRA were firing mortars over the border into Northern Ireland, when their guerrillas were crossing from the Republic to attack police stations and Protestants, did Britain unleash the RAF on the Irish Republic? Did the RAF bomb churches and tankers and police stations and zap 300 civilians to teach the Irish a lesson? No, it did not. Because the world would have seen it as criminal behaviour. We didn’t want to lower ourselves to the IRA’s level.

Yes, Israel deserves security. But these bloodbaths will not bring it. Not since 1948 have air raids protected Israel. Israel has bombed Lebanon thousands of times since 1975 and not one has eliminated “terrorism”. So what was the reaction last night? The Israelis threaten ground attacks. Hamas waits for another battle. Our Western politicians crouch in their funk holes. And somewhere to the east—in a cave? a basement? on a mountainside?—a well-known man in a turban smiles.


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By Blackspeare, December 29, 2008 at 3:24 pm Link to this comment

Why does any article about the ME, Israel and the Palestinians bring out so much mis and dis-information.

The Gaza Palestinians quite legally elected Hamas to power and when you elect an entity to govern that is made of criminal elements the populace will suffer as we saw in Nazi Germany. In order for Hamas to maintain control over Gaza, like the Nazi regime, they must live under a constant state of war. And so now we have another ME conflict which will end pretty much the way all the others did——undecided and to be continued. If only the world would let the parties fight to the finish where one side vanquishes the other only then will a period of peace ensue.

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By Gesellschaft, December 29, 2008 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment
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The colonial competitor nations feeling guilt over the centuries of persecution and genocide of the native peoples of the Americas decided to repay them for allowing british colonialists to slaughter so many of their faith.  Many historians agreed paganism has a deep past in the scandinavian region and therefor it was decided to compensate by sending in forces to sweden to kill or drive out the populous, carving out a chunk of territory, and calling it hohocamriel.  Of course they had to allow a hohocamriel nuclear arsenal, billions in free money, and a blank check to do as any international banker supported regime.. “anything.”  Damn those swedes for throwing snowballs at hohocami military bases!

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By Avid, December 29, 2008 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment

Howard,

I find your one sided argument at the very best, seriously misinformed (as do many others that have commented).  Did you know that Israel has the power to at any moment in time shut off water to Gaza?  Or that Hamas would like nothing better than to obtain an independent sovereign state (and I’m quite sure that this concession by the Israeli government would end most violent conflict) but the problem with that is simply Israel will not do it! 

Of course Israel says they can have “Autonomy” but sovereignty?? never… because that my dear man would not allow the Israelis justification for submitting them to military rule (at any point that Israel would desire) all in the name of safety of course.  No that musnt ever happen…

I suggest you do some research into the Palestinian side of this before you make any more bold claims. 

and Mr. Fisk, does Israel deserve security?  I was under the impression that prior to the instigation of the zionist state these people coexisted quite peacefully.  Perhaps the creation of the Zionist state has led to the forceful ejection of palestinians from their homes, as well as palestinan subjection to horribly inhumane conditions and inherent structural violence.  Maybe Israel needs to recognize that this system is not working and only endangering lives of innocent people.  How much damage needs to be dealt by both sides before a solution is found? And if Israel would like the violence to end (it appears they do not) then they need to stop subjecting the palestineans to atrocious conditions.  I ask you… Should the Zionist state of Israel exist?  I think not

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By TAO Walker, December 29, 2008 at 1:23 pm Link to this comment

When the apparatus of death and destruction reaches a level of mass and momentum over which its self-styled Human operators have no more effective “control,” it seems to this old Indian that a “paradigm shift” has already occurred.  Most here, though, including this article’s author, seem still well “behind-the-curve” when it comes to recognizing the drastic change in their own status, vis-a-vis these deadly single-purpose instrumentalities they’ve built and let loose in their world.

When the machinery of mass murder and mayhem becomes not only “funded” all-but limitlessly, but fully institutionalized, it takes-on a ruthlessly vicious “presence” the operations of which cannot be stopped except by voluntary Human sacrifices commensurate with the magnitude and purposes of the damned thing itself.  There is not going to be any “easy-way-out” of the self-inflicted predicament homo domesticus is enmeshed-in today.  Awful as it is, the carnage in “the Holy Land” is a mere side-show next to the auto-piloted “main event” already beginning its final assault on the rest of the “civilized” world.

F’r instance, the U.S. Army is planning for urban warfare in its own “homeland.”  The high-and-mighty see it coming, Sisters and Brothers, and intend doing all they can to see that the lower classes bear the brunt of it.  That all their efforts will come to nothing will be cold comfort to “the masses.”

Yet the Good Red Road remains open to you.  What our Lakotah Cousins call the Tiyoshpaye Way remains your only VIABLE option. 

HokaHey!

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By dr wu, December 29, 2008 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment

Every day Israel grows larger and Palestine grows smaller. They were supposed to share the land 0f the “Palestinian Mandate”  -it’s now Israel 80%, Palestinian 20%

Israel and US preach a two state solution but they practice the creeping erasure of the Palestinian people.

People rebel under such desperate circumstances. Let’s hope there is some power to get Israel to stop just like NATO stopped the Serbs from attacking Kosovo.

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By Eso, December 29, 2008 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment

I saw them come out of Buchenwald and I see them now. 80% east Europeans, all run for the dessert to escape Christendom. It is a paradox to have Tony Blair on their side, and Obama, Sarkozy, and Howard. Which is why I call today’s events the Last Hurrah. Obama is unexpectedly without a shirt. Sarkozy has France to worry about. So, let us wait and see if yet one more paradox appears, and conversion to Islam is what saves them the day. Paradox or no, I see such an outcome as logical.

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By P. T., December 29, 2008 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment

Israeli political science professor Neve Gordon explains what it’s all about; it’s not about Gazans firing rockets.  Click on http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/29/israelandthepalestinians-middleeast/print

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By WriterOnTheStorm, December 29, 2008 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment

This sort of article usually only succeeds in making it’s author feel worldly and sympathetic to human suffering. It has little chance of solving anything, or of changing the minds of people who are in a position to influence the ME status quo.

The essential impasse is imbedded in the line, “Yes, Israel deserves security”. This notion, once acceded to, gives the moral carte blanche to a growing list of crimes against humanity. It seems obvious, and I have yet to encounter a salient counter argument to this, that any group stealing homes and land from others should be given the status of rogue, and treated accordingly. Who but Israelis could go about the business of colonization and ethnic cleansing all the while claiming victimhood at the hands of the very people they oppress?

It’s probably the god thing, and the “chosen people” business. And this national delusion turns out to be a stroke of PR genius, at least as far as America is concerned. But how much political capital do they have left to spend? Can they break the back of the Palestinians before they completely run out of benefit of doubt? Stay tuned…

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world, where every nation only gets the security it earns, by exhibiting the good behavior the community expects, we watch the slow-motion slaughter in numb sadness, and wonder how long must we wait until Israel is held to the same standard?

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By Donatella, December 29, 2008 at 11:32 am Link to this comment
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The Israelis don’t want peace, they want to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians and expand Eretz Israel. Israel’s death grip on Gaza has caused untold deaths; death by malnutrition or lack of medical supplies has the same result as a death by bombing. Not one Israeli was killed in the last 6 months by the rocket fire before this latest war: Israel is just looking for an excuse to continue their ethnic cleansing on a larger scale. Also, it helps the party in power in the upcoming election.

It is a common practice to eliminate the leadership structure of a people in order to more easily enslave them. The Germans did it in Poland and the Israeli, quick learners that they are, have been practicing this technique by targeted assassinations and now trying to overthrow a democratically elected government. Israel has managed to subvert Abbas and Fatah but cannot control Hamas so they mean to destroy them.

In the long term, history has shown that European colonialism has failed; even against superior power eventually the indigenous population returns to power. This may not happen in the next few decades but if Israel continues on their racist course eventually the Arabs will regain all of Palestine.

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By Dag Andersson, December 29, 2008 at 11:10 am Link to this comment

My dear Howard

you either feel empathy for the opressed or you dont, you either have a sense of justice, morale and truth—or you dont-

So I will not try to explain the error in your reasoning. The same way I will refrain from describing the rainbow to a blind or Beethovens 9th to a deaf.
  Instead I will ask you to put yourself in the shoes of a man in Gaza. That his experience the last 8 years is yours, and tell me what you would do.

  I remember the lyric from a a french folk song during the war in Alger : “Cet animal est très méchant. Quand on l’attaque il se défend”

This animal is very dangerous,it defends itself when you attack it.

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By Howard, December 29, 2008 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

If Hamas wants peace and prosperity for its people a serious peace treaty with Israel would bring untold funds from the world over (most likely not from the petro-arab states) who would make it economically and socially self sufficient and a modern government in the true sense of the word.

Thousands of gazans were barred from working anymore in Israel by Hamas. It was only a beginning but Hamas refused let it continue.  When the Israelis left Gaza they left intact a million dollar greenhouse facility (paid for by the US), which would have brought in plenty and made plenty of jobs. Again, a small first step, but instead Hamas destroyed the multi-million facility.

Absolutely no one wants peace and economic growth for the gazans than the Israelis.  The Egyptians will not help. The Jordanians will not help. Not a freaking arab petro billion dollar/day state will help.  Israel will step up to the plate.  All this nonsense about their goals otherwise is hot air.  Think about.  They have desired peace for 60 years. and for that time their neighors will not accept them.

Hamas leadership is corrupt and harmful to its own people.  At the moment.  Hopefully they will change.

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By Eso, December 29, 2008 at 10:50 am Link to this comment

Blair is the shame of Christianity. Preaching it at Yale no less! Come 2009, the wonders will not cease! As the song says: Higher and higher!

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By P. T., December 29, 2008 at 10:36 am Link to this comment

The U.S./Israel model for controlling the Middle East is a failure.  The idea has been that with bribes and enough force (shock and awe), the people there will be terrorized into obeying.

Rulers such as Abbas and Mubarak largely obey, but the masses have been made more militant.

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By davidperi, December 29, 2008 at 10:35 am Link to this comment

Fisk makes the comment that it has been a tic or tack response by both sides…Hamas fires rockets and Israel bombs..Hamas fires more rockets and Israel bombs again.

I must be reading the wrong news because every day for months or years, Hamas has been lobbing rockets into southern Israel.  I would think that if Hamas was serious for peace and for her own people they would stop this.  But it seems to me that they let it continue just to aggravate Israel and Israel responses this way.

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By Ctos, December 29, 2008 at 10:21 am Link to this comment

Howard believes, given that the Israelis are the Palestinians best friends in the world, that the appropriate Palestinian response is to dance for joy that Israel is murdering the “bad” Palestinians.

You see, Howard is incapable of logical thought.

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By Bboy57, December 29, 2008 at 10:17 am Link to this comment

Howieboy- This whole notion that one side or the other is at fault is the WHOLE GIST OF THE ARTICLE. AND the reality and folly of the continuing conflict.Your really hopeless.

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By choupachoup, December 29, 2008 at 9:48 am Link to this comment
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“An eye for an eye will leave us all blind “

I am so weary, as an American, to be complicit in the civilian slaughter and enviornmental terrorism.
I do not have illusions that members of Hamas are boy scouts, however I do believe that the Israelis have re created and redirected the holocaust- which we are constantly reminded -that they themselves endured.
Their political inability to see a correlation is stunning.

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By felicity, December 29, 2008 at 9:09 am Link to this comment

Howard - What action should Hamas/Palestinians living in Gaza have taken to end the inhumane treatment that they have suffered and are suffering at the hands of the State of Israel?  Just curious.

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By Howard, December 29, 2008 at 9:01 am Link to this comment

Hamas is at fault.  They have started this current episode with Israel on purpose. Fired missles and rockets for the last 5 months every day and the world could care less. It was a supposed truce time and finally when they could not anger Israel enough and thepy they would not even renew the cease-fire. Imagine. Instead increased the pace of the bombardment of Israel and its citizens. Get Israel’s attention,huh.  Get a response that will cause world opinion to come down on Israel.  Easy.

So finally Israel responded.  Hello. They had no choice.  But Hamas has choices and refuses to join the world of modern governments. They rule Gaza with an iron fist; could stop the rockets in a moment.

This whole thing is Hamas’ fault.

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By Jim Yell, December 29, 2008 at 8:35 am Link to this comment
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The fact is the case for Israel to defend itself is very strong. The crowded population in Hamas area makes surgical strikes impossible. The impotent, but deadly rocket attacks the Hamas launches or allows from its territory is clearly a strategy that disregards the interests of the people they are responsible for, but they will use murder to try and frame their position as a victim group.

I had a great interest in finding out the history of Bosnia at the time that other religiously inspired murder started. In that case I had sympathy for the moslems because in fact they were largely the remanents of the Bogomils who were the south Slav group who historically held the land.

They had been so abused by their south Slav neighbors reaching for political domination and religous orthodoxy that they converted to Islam as their lose to one more religious group made them feel that “God Had Spoken” and besides the Moslems were in a position at that time to give them great advantage over their brother South Slavs.

It soon became apparent that as the lives of the South Slavs were basically, culturally in not too broad terms very uniform that all of this killing and misery was authored by Abrahamic religious totalitarianism which can not live in peace even within itself.

It is still going on. In cases like this the religous leaders should be held to criminal libility in the murder they encourage, but still the nation must be protected.

In a good world the Jews would understand that they are part of the greater Semitic culture and the Arabs would understand that they are part of the great Semitic culture and both Jews and Arabs would respect each other. Instead, but I believe more so for the Moslems they wish to dominate the other if not destroy. It is a Gordian Knot of hate and lies.

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By I.M. Small, December 29, 2008 at 8:15 am Link to this comment

CIVILITY ENDOWED

While bombs rain down on Gaza
The civil world protests,
Peacemakers in the plaza
Are subject to arrests.

That little thing in Warsaw,
Ghetto of long ago,
Has set praxis for Gaza—
In Palestine they know.

By all accounts a prison
May not spirit contain—
The missiles of derision
May compensate for pain.

So bombs rain down on Gaza:
The unfree, if civilians,
May reenact their Warsaw
If mounting into millions.

The civil world protesting
Doth not protest too loud,
But finds as interesting
Civility endowed.

God, to be an Israeli
And have to justify
As bombs are raining daily
That Thou art good: not I.

Yet even in Iraq we
Hear specious reasons false,
Of how protest rings tacky
Midst strangulating walls.

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By elianita55, December 29, 2008 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

“We’ve got so used to the carnage of the Middle East that we don’t care any more”

This is true even in times of relative peace, such as during the truce period that recently ended.

The scale of the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, which has been flourishing due to the blockade Israel imposed when Hamas seized control of the territory, has not nearly been discussed enough. Perhaps because it’s also become “normal”.

The blockade has bludgeoned the economy by preventing raw materials from entering, enabling famine and the spread of sickness and disease. People who are ill are not allowed to leave the territory to seek treatment.

Dr. Richard Falk, UN Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights in the Palestinian Territories, who is Jewish himself, confirmed the dire character of the situation on 9 December when he described Israeli action in Gaza as a crime against humanity.

Israel reacted by refusing to allow Falk to enter the country when he arrived at Ben Gurion airport on 14 December to travel to the West Bank.

More on this at http://www.ilpodesta.org

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By dihey, December 29, 2008 at 8:12 am Link to this comment

No one seems to ask the fundamental question “what is the status of Gaza and the West Bank in international law”? GWB is not a recognized sovereign state which could become a member of the UN tomorrow. It is not an operetta-style principality like Monaco or something like Vatican City. It has been a state in ‘status nascendi’ for some 61 years and occupied by Israel for many of these years. What is it and who is responsible for its transformation to a real Palestinian state safe from Israeli invasions?

Partial answer 1: Israel is not because it did not exist in 1947 when the British mandate was divided by the United Nations. Israel has no standing in this matter.
Partial answer 2: leaving the resolution to the two belligerents has not worked and will not work ever.

Did the division of the mandate of Palestine in 1947 end the responsibility of the UN for its future? It is my opinion that it did not and that GWB is therefore still an unresolved mandate of the United Nations which means that our US government as a member of the United Nations is co-responsible for the past and future these territories. I am of the opinion that all of our governments since 1947 and the UN have shirked this responsibility and, like Pilate, have washed their hands in innocence.

If my country, the US, wants to be a responsible co-warden of GWB it must begin with two fundamental steps.
(1) Define and help secure the borders of the future state of Palestine on the basis of the cease fire agreement. The border of the State of Israel will be defined by the border of the Palestinian State.
(2) Demand that Israel deliver this territory close to the state in which it was when Israel first occupied it which means the dismantling of all settlements and the tearing down of all walls and fences. No exceptions permitted.

I scoff at the statements that this will engender future trouble making by an unhappy Israel. It has been making plenty of troubles in the past so what is new? Just tell it to behave because all means of correction will “remain on the table”.

If they want to fire on UN or other forces in GWB, well let them try.

It is fairly obvious from Mr. Obama’s past statements and his cowardly silence on the current bombing and invasion of a ward of the UN that, paraphrasing Mr. McCain, he ‘does not get it’. He is not likely to ever get it unless he is forced to. There are rumors that he is intelligent. Well, we will see about that. Maybe he is only clever.

It is never too late to discuss the future of Israel/Palestine. Let’s stop wallowing in the past and demand a clear-cut new “road map” from our next President, a “road map” which the Government of Israel cannot use to wipe its behind with which it did with all previous ones. No more toleration of Israeli shenanigans. We need leaders not more Pilates. No more “business as usual” in the Near East!

Mr. Obama is wont to proclaim that ‘we’ cannot just abandon the Iraqi people by pulling out precipitously. Fair enough. Apparently he does not understand that this is exactly what ‘we’ have done to the Palestinians. Proclamations that the Palestinians “deserve a state of their own” have always been and will continue to be despicable excuses to do nothing.

Mr. Obama, if there is a real moral difference between the cases of Tibet and GWB will you paragon of international law (according to Cyrena) please explain that to me.

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By paolo, December 29, 2008 at 8:04 am Link to this comment
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Sadly only a lucky few will seek and read this write-up to appreciate its resonance in context to who we are or what we have become. Many will rely on the disposable propaganda news so as not to disturb their comfort cup of morning java; that is the fair-trade morning java drank in the ‘Made in Bangladesh’ coffee mug.
Ahh the irony…

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By dick, December 29, 2008 at 8:01 am Link to this comment
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No peace is possible in Palestine as long as Jews and Muslims live there- they want to kill each other. Men never do evil so cheerfully and completely as when they do it from religious convictions. The USA should have remained uninvolved but Truman wanted the Jewish vote and caved in.

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By Little Brother, December 29, 2008 at 8:00 am Link to this comment

It’s hard to say which is the more exasperating—the knee-jerk false equivalence between the David of Palestine and the Goliath of Israel, or the superficial and simple-minded reversal of cause and effect that reduces a juggernaut of state-sponsored ethnic cleansing and genocide into a mere justifiable and proportionate response to egregious provocation.

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By Allan Gurfinkle, December 29, 2008 at 7:00 am Link to this comment
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Fisk writes “Yes Israel deserves security.”  Even Fisk is an Israel apologist.  Had the Afrikaners divided South Africa and expelled the Africans from the white half, would he have written that White South Africa deserves security?  Once the exclusive ‘right’ of the Israelis to the part of Palestine that they occupy is recognized, the game is set, and it will be to the death.

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By writerman, December 29, 2008 at 6:57 am Link to this comment
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Nationalism is an extraordinarily powerful force when mixed together with militerism and mythology about one’s ‘race’.

It can, and often does, lead towards incredible acts of heroism and barbarism, self-sacrifice and subjugation.

With the creation of the modern state, in competition with other states, mass armies were needed to protect and pursue the interests of the new centralised state. War evolved into wars to the death between entire countries, not just armies on some battlefield. But how to get ordinary people to fight, that was the question? To march in rows across a field towards a hail of machinegun fire, to die in their thousands? A great and powerful story or myth was required. A myth so powerful men would walk through rivers of blood for it.

The myth was nationalism and love of country beyond sense and rationality, beyond reason; love of one’s own country and hatred of the enemy’s country, a vile, crippled, waltz of death between two half-blind and brainwashed morons, intent on strangling each other to death in bloody embrace.

And there’s a stupid and simple measure involved, which has nothing to do with ‘race’ or the concept of a ‘people’ or some vague cutural or religious label.

Nations grab whatever they can if they are strong enough to do it, if they can find someone weaker than themselves to steal from of subjugate. It’s the criminal core of imperialist expantionism. Might gives us the means and the ‘right’ to expand and take what we want. The strong conquer the weak and rule over them, because they can, because they can. The weak almost ‘invite’ themselves to be conquered by the strong.

It’s been this way for thousands of years and really, underneath the rhetoric and the excuses, it’s still the same stupid, bloody and simple formula at work.

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By nick, December 29, 2008 at 5:48 am Link to this comment
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you probably dont care about whats going in Palestine, but this affects all of us Americans in a way, as long as the United States supprt Isreal with weapons and etc, we Americans are going to suffer in the long run, Mr bush should be held accountable for all of the American deaths that occurred in Iraq and Afghanstan, just like Saddam was held n killed for what he did, Mr. bush lied to his fellow Americans about weapons of mass destruction, due to his lies many innocent people have died, mr bush should be held in court and possibly hung just like saddam, mr Bush you are coward

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By paul bass, December 29, 2008 at 5:18 am Link to this comment
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nobody cares ... nobody…
maybe when all of gaza is pushed in to egypt and that american back dictator falls and the muslim brother hood have a powerful country at thier control you might get a more peaceful israel until then america will give the green light (and the weapons) and israel will continue to sow its own destruction

oh and happy hanukkah
when the people of israel only had enough naplam to burn Palestinians for one day lasted eight whole night

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By David Dixit, December 29, 2008 at 4:56 am Link to this comment
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When will the Arab world do something concrete (e.g. pour in money for construction and jobs for Palestinians) to support the Palestinians ?

When will the rest of the world stand up to the Israelis, stop supporting them, and tell them to accept that Palestine exists and that the Palestinians have AS MUCH RIGHT to life as they do.

Presumably Mr Blair, who still maintains the stupidity of his Iraq decisions, received his cheque in the post for his work (lol) in the Middle East.

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By cyrena, December 29, 2008 at 4:44 am Link to this comment

Well Robert,

I’m inclined to disagree with the part about bin Laden smiling -anywhere- because I’m convinced that he’s dead.

HOWEVER, this is a much better piece than the previous one.

This was interesting…

“Not a whimper from Tony Blair, the peace envoy to the Middle East who’s never been to Gaza in his current incarnation. Not a bloody word…”

I didn’t realize that Blair the Dick Bush lapdog hadn’t been to Gaza at all. (I thought he’d made a single trip back at the time of his ‘appointment’ to the position).

In reality though, what difference would it make? He’s not going to do anything, because any genuine ‘peace’ envoy will continue to be rejected and/or eliminated by the Israelis. Their treatment just last week of Richard Falk, the UN envoy, is a testament to that.

At least they expelled him though. I suspect that if he weren’t an envoy from the UN, they would have just locked him up with the 10,000 plus others that they have in their prisons; tortured mercilessly, and never to be seen or heard from again.

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