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The Case Against Kennedy

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Posted on Dec 10, 2008

By Marie Cocco

    As a former New Yorker, I am occasionally obliged to ask impertinent questions. Such as:

    How can Democrats, who ridiculed Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as an inexperienced political wannabe, now embrace the idea of elevating Caroline Kennedy—who hasn’t served a day in public office—to Hillary Clinton’s New York Senate seat? How, indeed, can the same “progressives” who opposed Clinton’s election as president because they were repelled by the notion of extending the “Clinton dynasty” now be keen on perpetuating the Kennedy dynasty through an appointment?

    As a longtime admirer of Sen. Ted Kennedy, I am embarrassed.

    The iconic Massachusetts senator and others in the family are actively promoting John F. Kennedy’s daughter—who famously shunned the gritty political world for the sanctuary of public service through her private endeavors—to take the Senate seat once occupied by her late uncle, Robert F. Kennedy, and now held by Clinton. A decision on filling the vacancy should Clinton be confirmed as secretary of state is up to New York Gov. David Paterson, who could be forgiven, in moments like this, if he fleetingly wishes that he’d not ascended to the office after predecessor Eliot Spitzer’s indiscretions. 

    What, exactly, is the case to be made for Caroline Kennedy?

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    Certainly she would bring her family’s Rolodex, which is one route to credibility in a state where campaigns are extraordinarily costly—a total of $69 million was spent on the 2000 Senate race.

    An argument is also made that Kennedy would keep aflame the liberal dreams her father ignited decades ago, and which her Uncle Ted has ably nurtured throughout his career. No doubt she is bright and committed to public service.

    But if these are the sole qualifications, plenty of New York Democrats meet them.

    They are, as a group, a famously liberal bunch. None can plausibly argue that Attorney General Andrew Cuomo and members of the New York congressional delegation who are said to be interested in the seat aren’t sufficiently committed to public service; they’ve spent their lives in it. As for naming a woman to the job, as Paterson is being pressured to do, New York has a trove of experienced political women who’ve proved themselves in the trenches. Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg isn’t one of them. She’s never taken the risk of running for office or sullied herself with the day-to-day messiness of public life.

    Comparisons to Clinton’s 2000 Senate bid are invalid. Clinton ran for the office, doggedly visiting all 62 counties and campaigning through long days and nights that took her from African-American churches in Brooklyn to Hudson Valley apple farms to agricultural fairs upstate. Her Republican opponent outspent her. The media coverage was relentless. Clinton won by a double-digit margin.

    For all its cosmopolitan aura, New York’s politics are defined by ancient grievances and clannish alliances. Ethnic and racial rivalries boil. There’s an enduring rift between upstaters who resent New York City’s dominance of state affairs, and downstate city and suburban residents who send most of the tax money to state coffers. Cuomo, one of Kennedy’s chief rivals for the Senate appointment, is the former husband of one of her cousins.

    Arcane squabbles routinely throw New York politics into utter turmoil. Example: Since Election Day, when Democrats wrested control of the state Senate from Republicans to gain full power for the first time since the New Deal, Albany has been consumed by a threat of three Democratic lawmakers to throw their support to Republicans, thus denying their own party the right to preside over the Senate chamber. Paterson was forced to broker a power-sharing solution to placate the dissidents—a deal came just days ago.

    A U.S. senator doesn’t have to get into this swamp, but it’s good to know how to navigate around it. Kennedy doesn’t. Not that she couldn’t learn.

    In fact, if she wants to be senator, there is a path to the job—the special election necessary to fill the Clinton seat in 2010, no matter who gets the interim appointment. A campaign would allow Kennedy to prove her mettle. Voters could take the measure of her as a potential leader, not as a celebrity. 

    I’m sure those in the far corners of the state would welcome her, just as they welcomed Clinton. A Kennedy is a big draw. And there isn’t a county chairman alive who would pass up the chance to make the annual rubber-chicken dinner a certain sellout. 
   
    Marie Cocco’s e-mail address is mariecocco(at)washpost.com.
   
    © 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

Correction: The figure in the 6th paragraph originally read $96 million. That number has been corrected to $69 million.


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By Anarcissie, December 18, 2008 at 12:50 pm #

For those who have been mystified by the sudden advancement of Caroline Kennedy from rich lady who does good works some of three days a week to leading candidate for the august role of Senator from New York State, there may be some enlightenment in this consideration of the Byzantine politics of New York City:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2008/12/okay_it_would_b.php

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By Leisure Suit Larry, December 17, 2008 at 11:24 am #
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By spike, December 15 at 1:01 pm #

“here we go again, another product of new england blueblood inbreeding, ‘born on third base, thinks she hit a triple”

I’m not going to discuss “qualifications (which nearly half of congress lacks) I will discuss the quote “born on third base, thinks she hit a triple” which is overused, and in this case innappropriate.

Carolyn was born shortly before the Kennedy’s moved to the White House, Her mother lost a child shortly after this, and three years later her father is murdered. She is raised by Jackie who herself was not the child of privlege attributed to “other Kennedy’s” five years later her Uncle (whom she loved) is murdered. Then her grandfather dies after a long bout with Alzheimers. Before we get to the present, she loses two cousins, her mother to cancer, and her brother in a flying accident. Now her other remaining uncle has brain cancer.

The contention that she was born on third base is ludicrous to the max… If her life is “privledged” I’m glad I’m “just folks.”

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By Sepharad, December 16, 2008 at 6:27 pm #
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Just read NYTimes stories re Caroline Kennedy, one with some questioning of her qualifications. Most of what I wrote in my original post I still stand by, but to put it more concisely:

    1) Empty-nest syndrome is not a qualification for Senator of New York ...
    2)nor is discovering one likes the limelight generated in helping Obama ...
    3)nor is the Kennedy family’s discomfiture that after Ted there will not be a royal Kennedy in Congress ...
    4)nor is good creds in fundraising for good causes—expertise “good causes” badly need in this economy, so please Ms. K. keep on keeping on in that particularly endangered garden you’ve been tending so well.

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By spike, December 15, 2008 at 6:01 pm #
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here we go again, another product of new england blueblood inbreeding, ‘born on third base, thinks she hit a triple’...much like those from the bush/walker clan…“but i WANT a senate seat, uncle teddy, i WANT it!”

“and, by God, you’ll (hic) get it, shweetheart”

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By Sepharad, December 13, 2008 at 5:29 am #
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Americans love their aristocrats even though we aren’t a monarchy, but that shouldn’t be enough to anoint anyone—be they Kennedy or Buckley—as a Senator unless they’ve had the sort of experience that is expected of same. Caroline Kennedy is a nice lady, married a rich guy and has written some fine and tasteful books. But if we want a Kennedy as a Senator, we can also look to a couple of RFK’s brood, politically active and experienced in the give and take of politics.

If not, then New York should dip into its incredible pool of political and intellectual talent for someone who knows the state’s system, problems, politicos. A shy, introverted writer of books and more comfortable amidst polite people who agree with her and are approving of her every effort is ill-suited to the Senate. Maybe a stretch as a state representative would provide the needed seasoning and also let her see whether she really likes the milieu well enough to get out of the sheltered Westchester life she leads except for brief turns in the limelight with her Uncle Ted. Nepotism isn’t a good thing unless the nepotee is extraordinarily well-qualified for the job, better than anyone else. And Caroline isn’t. It’s no kindness to let someone who truly shines in some contexts enter an arena where she may not be treated as gently and respectfully as she has been in non-competitive situations.

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By dihey, December 12, 2008 at 2:23 pm #

Samosamo

The length of your diatribe and the use of choice words like “goddamn” show that my short statement was bulls eye.

Try again if you can be rational and correct because you misuse my word “drafter” which has no connection with “Southern”.

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By cyrena, December 12, 2008 at 3:59 am #

Samosamo writes:


“..Certainly I have been fooled by just the fact that a convicted felon can continue to serve as a senator of the United States when I ASSUMED that convicted felons could not hold public office…”

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Samosamo,

Can I just say that this is a perfectly NORMAL ‘assumption’ for just about anyone of us 300 plus million citizens? I mean really, who in the hell would have ever thought that ANY public official could create a felony or a hundred of them - WHILE IN OFFICE, and simply continue to retain their position. WTF???

But Samosamo, we left that reality 8 years ago (at least) and as part of the neocon agenda and the reality created by them, (Karl Rove at the lead) ANYTHING GOES!!! They make the rules up (or break them routinely) as they go along. Laws? Constitution? Whatever could you be talking about? wink

So APPARENTLY, unless there is something very specific written into the state constitutions, these public officials simply continue to serve their own criminal agendas within public office, and it would SEEM like some of them figure they can do it from a jail cell. (that is for the few that are actually convicted, and don’t have their sentences commuted by the President Cheney.)

But yeah, that DOES seem pretty god damned incredible, seeing as how an unpaid parking ticket could prevent some from even being considered for a trash collecting job.

Anyway, you were NOT fooled. OK? smile

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By samosamo, December 12, 2008 at 1:12 am #

By dihey, December 11 at 2:15 pm

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Samosamo and oldog: this is akin to the kinds of shenanigans of Southern voting laws which prevented millions of blacks to vote. Who will be the “drafter”?
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I speak for anyone serving, that is being elected to public office, to know just what in the hell the laws are for a person serving in office. This usually being defined by a document such as the constitutions for both the national level and the state levels. You seem to think that any and everybody is not obliged to know one goddamn thing about an office when elected to a position by the people. While that does not guarantee one way or the other of the abuse of office one is elected to it should show what is expected and how they can be judged by those that elected them to that position even if that trust has turned to a treason for purposes of personal, financial and political gain. Certainly I have been fooled by just the fact that a convicted felon can continue to serve as a senator of the United States when I ASSUMED that convicted felons could not hold public office. And just running and demonstrating that one would want the position shows no knowledge of what they can or will do. That has ABSOULELY NO basis in your ‘souther drafter’ BS, all that is directed to people that would want to VOTE.
The most important thing about what I commented was the utter lack of knowledge of a bill an elected person was going to vote on and the only knowledge that person would have would be the amount of money some lobbyist put in his/her hand on how to vote. Your diatribe seems to support this so I would instantly know that I would not want you being elected to office at all, not even dog catcher. You may be willing to want to give the people in power a free pass and the people wanting into power no scrutiny and considering it is the press’s(msm) duty to ‘dig’ up the bona fides of these people serving and those wanting in and the msm’s verified trait of not covering people’s real qualifications for office but just their personality traits puts them out of the picture for accurate information that you and me and the rest of us need to make an informed decision. I will stand by this, a source of verifiable and truthful information and knowledge of all aspect of a position someone is elected to on all levels to be something the press(if they had the balls)but also any person/voter would ask that wannabe a question face to face and get an answer that is verifiable. But being in this democracy of ours today, for now that will not happen, at least not yet.
Also, where did I want the voter to be held to questions? The voter has a right to demand answers to his/her questions.

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By Oceana, December 11, 2008 at 11:59 pm #

CORRECTION: 

It can NOT be stated any clearer…..

By Oceana, December 11 at 6:55 pm #

Dear Maria Burns:

It CAN NOT be stated any clearer!  Thus, I say no more and have provided a copy of your comment to ensure it continues to be read.

Thank you for posting your comment in response to this article.

By Marie Burns, December 11 at 1:01 pm #
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It would be WONDERFUL to have one Senator in a hundred who hadn’t got up every day of her life, looked in the mirror and said, “Oh boy, another day that’s ALL ABOUT ME.”

An article that starts with the ludicrous premise that the intelligent, competent, thoughtful Caroline Kennedy can be compared to the mindless, self-indulgent Sarah Palin can only go downhill, as this one does.

“A long-time admirer of Ted Kennedy”?  If he weren’t ill, I’d have something to say about that.

Clinton’s “listening tour” was PR crapola designed to make up for the fact that she’d never lived in New York.  Kennedy has lived in New York most of her life.  She doesn’t need to go on a magical listening tour.  She’s been listening.

Would you argue that, say, Saxby Chambliss, makes a better Senator because he’s so good at the rough-&-tumble of politics; i.e., implying his opponent, who left two legs and an arm in Viet Nam was a pal of Osama bin Laden?

Frankly, I wish we had a hundred Senators more like Caroline Kennedy & less like the me-generation Saxby Chamblisses and Hillary Clintons we got instead.  I’m sure we’d have a better, more responsive government.

The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

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By Oceana, December 11, 2008 at 11:55 pm #

Dear Maria Burns:

It could be stated any clearer!  Thus, I say no more and have provided a copy your comment to ensure it continues to be read.

Thank you for posting your comment in response to this article.

By Marie Burns, December 11 at 1:01 pm #
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It would be WONDERFUL to have one Senator in a hundred who hadn’t got up every day of her life, looked in the mirror and said, “Oh boy, another day that’s ALL ABOUT ME.”

An article that starts with the ludicrous premise that the intelligent, competent, thoughtful Caroline Kennedy can be compared to the mindless, self-indulgent Sarah Palin can only go downhill, as this one does.

“A long-time admirer of Ted Kennedy”?  If he weren’t ill, I’d have something to say about that.

Clinton’s “listening tour” was PR crapola designed to make up for the fact that she’d never lived in New York.  Kennedy has lived in New York most of her life.  She doesn’t need to go on a magical listening tour.  She’s been listening.

Would you argue that, say, Saxby Chambliss, makes a better Senator because he’s so good at the rough-&-tumble of politics; i.e., implying his opponent, who left two legs and an arm in Viet Nam was a pal of Osama bin Laden?

Frankly, I wish we had a hundred Senators more like Caroline Kennedy & less like the me-generation Saxby Chamblisses and Hillary Clintons we got instead.  I’m sure we’d have a better, more responsive government.

The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

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By Muscleboy, December 11, 2008 at 11:27 pm #

Caroline Kennedy

I think not being one of the nations band of psychopathic-criminals-serving-in-public-office is one of her better points indeed.  This ridiculous point that only people who have served in public office are qualified for any post is wrong on the face of it. She is an outstandingly brilliant and insightful person.  I would be quite overjoyed to know she has decided to serve the country in such an important way because I know very well that if she does decide thusly then she will indeed be ready and able to serve.

Besides she has fantastic legs. I was a not more than a boy at the Bobby Kennedy memorial service, some years ago, and I got to see them very close up as she alighted from her car.  I nearly fell over. 

OK, I’m being utterly silly and ungentlemanly disgraceful regarding the legs part.  But whatever your position on her external beauty she does have the right stuff inside where it counts, in great supply, I assure you.

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By dihey, December 11, 2008 at 7:21 pm #

Alejandro: evidently without research you have blindly and stupidly managed to insult US Representatives Louise Slaughter, Nydia Velazquez, and Nita Lowey who are actually among the 10% of politicians that are not “lops”. Shame on you, you discriminator!

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By dihey, December 11, 2008 at 7:15 pm #

Samosamo and oldog: this is akin to the kinds of shenanigans of Southern voting laws which prevented millions of blacks to vote. Who will be the “drafter”? Who will verify and how that a candidate “understands” our Constitution? By what criteria? Even Supreme Court Judges have problems (viz. 2000 Presidential elections!!!!) If a candidate for Congress must “understand” the Constitution should one not demand that voters “understand” the Constitution too? “Here we go again” would candidate Reagan say!
Full Democracy is, alas and unavoidably, a rather messy affair. What you propose is a return to a dangerous elitism similar to that of our Founding Papas.
As we have experienced for eight years it is far more dangerous when a President does not understand or else ignores our Constitution and laws. A good President can stop unconstitutional legislation with his/her veto.

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By samosamo, December 11, 2008 at 6:36 pm #

By oldog, December 11 at 5:02 am #


Personally, I think we should just select representatives by draft the way we select jurors. Higher offices should require a basic minimum educational capability and understanding of the constitution. (Something we don’t have now)

The most important job requirement for a public servant in a democracy is the willingness to execute the wishes of the majority. It has been a long time since anyone like that came out of the trenches.
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Sounds like a good idea for the U.S. but since it is a good idea, it will not be implemented. The issue of understanding the constitution is pretty much the heart or the lack of heart in the congress and should be a requirement by knowing the whole constitution, the bill of rights and the declaration of independence. But, and here is where there should be an article put into the constitution and be required of any congresstional and that is to have read AND understood any bills being voted on and being tested to see if each one comprehends and understands the bill. I am really tired of a lobbyist handing out a fist full of dollars or a suitcase full to some huckster of an elected criminal and told to vote this way or that on a bill. I wish there was more than a phone call or an email to contact a representative or senator about what they may or may not know about a bill. Hell, they all have websites I would think; they could post their interpretation of a bill on their site and have a regular comment section for the constituent’s view/reaction. But again, it makes sense and that will not fly in d. c.

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By Marie Burns, December 11, 2008 at 6:01 pm #
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It would be WONDERFUL to have one Senator in a hundred who hadn’t got up every day of her life, looked in the mirror and said, “Oh boy, another day that’s ALL ABOUT ME.” 

An article that starts with the ludicrous premise that the intelligent, competent, thoughtful Caroline Kennedy can be compared to the mindless, self-indulgent Sarah Palin can only go downhill, as this one does.

“A long-time admirer of Ted Kennedy”?  If he weren’t ill, I’d have something to say about that.

Clinton’s “listening tour” was PR crapola designed to make up for the fact that she’d never lived in New York.  Kennedy has lived in New York most of her life.  She doesn’t need to go on a magical listening tour.  She’s been listening.

Would you argue that, say, Saxby Chambliss, makes a better Senator because he’s so good at the rough-&-tumble of politics; i.e., implying his opponent, who left two legs and an arm in Viet Nam was a pal of Osama bin Laden?

Frankly, I wish we had a hundred Senators more like Caroline Kennedy & less like the me-generation Saxby Chamblisses and Hillary Clintons we got instead.  I’m sure we’d have a better, more responsive government.

The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

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By Alejandro, December 11, 2008 at 6:00 pm #
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If Caroline Kennedy gets the nod from Gov. Patterson, both the state of New York and America will get, not only a Lady that has more political accumen in her little finger then 90% of the lops that occupy our Congress today. She will bring with her, an impeccable record of public service, education, expert knowledge of the U.S Constitution as well as the humility and dignity so lacking in government today. I wish her nothing but the best and God Speed.

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By dihey, December 11, 2008 at 4:57 pm #

I am not a “vengeful Hillary supporter”, whatever that is. It would be a gigantic scandal in my opinion if the Governor appoints Carolyn Kennedy to the US Senate instead of one of the following US Representatives Louise Slaughter, Nydia Velazquez, and Nita Lowey. Check their qualifications to find that each of these women is infinitely, yes infinitely more qualified than Carolyne.

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By rbrooks, December 11, 2008 at 3:44 pm #
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How can all the vengeful Hillary supporters - who are out to punish the Kennedys for their support for Obama - attack Caroline Kennedy with a straight face? Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State makes a joke of the idea that qualifications matter.
This is beyond irony. Our next State Department will be run by a person who has absolutely no experience as a diplomat; a person whose administrative experience is limited to a) a disastrously mismanaged campaign and b) a disastrously mismanaged effort to turn healthcare reform over to the health industry lobbyists, thereby blowing healthcare reform for a couple of generations.
The woman who dodged bullets in Bosnia, our chief diplomat? The mind boggles.
Caroline Kennedy is far better qualified to join the Senate than most of the dinosaurs of both parties who currently disgrace it. And she is considerably better qualified to be a Senator than Hillary Clinton was when she ran; or is now to be - choke - Secretary of State. The mind boggles.

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By User Loser, December 11, 2008 at 1:47 pm #
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Whoever is appointed will be one of the few unless Paterson opens the phone book and stabs it at random. As an upstate resident I just hope we don’t get screwed again. Hillery made a lot of sympathetic talk but there seemed to be little action, she seemed more busy with her own career. I just hope we get someone who this is what they want to do for long enough to get some power in the Senate and bring the fruits home to New York.

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By hippy pam, December 11, 2008 at 10:28 am #

Every one has to START somewhere.I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT-BUT…..Putting Kennedy in a high position with NO EXPERIENCE is no different than putting “ms.mooseturd from the great state of Alaska” up for the #2 seat in America….This is a case of apples/oranges…..and this is a no-brainer!

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By oldog, December 11, 2008 at 10:02 am #

I don’t know what kind of senator Caroline Kennedy would make. Her speaking presence, administrative skills, and the mere fact of her survival of a lifetime under intense public scrutiny without scandal, speak volumes for her integrity and competence.

My question is: What are we looking for here? Has the traditional model of career politicians, grown suitably obdurate and corrupt by a lifetime ‘in the trenches’ really the best person for the job? I mean, it has worked soooooo well so far, that trying something (or someone) new, is much too dangerous, right?

Personally, I think we should just select representatives by draft the way we select jurors. Higher offices should require a basic minimum educational capability and understanding of the constitution. (Something we don’t have now)

The most important job requirement for a public servant in a democracy is the willingness to execute the wishes of the majority. It has been a long time since anyone like that came out of the trenches.

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By thebeerdoctor, December 11, 2008 at 8:45 am #

Does not this whole matter reveal the celebrity driven obsessions of our pageant government? Perhaps the liberals will have to admit that “Camelot” is just as silly a fantasy as “hockey mom” or “Joe the plumber”. The superficiality that is accepted as critical thinking is amazing. Appointments do matter. President-elect Obama has made some wise and not-so-wise picks to his cabinet. Greg Palast worries about some possible choices: http://www.alternet.org/story/111806/
And it appears now that someone’s name brand, if it has enough cache, is sufficient to meet the rigors of public office. Was not there a fellow named Bush who did exactly that?

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By republicanSScareme, December 11, 2008 at 5:55 am #
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Not many rich families have a reputation of fighting for the little guy. The Kennedys do. I would sooner trust Caroline Kennedy to do a good job that most of the usual characters we elect to the Senate.

Go Caroline!

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By prole, December 11, 2008 at 5:37 am #

What impertinent questions. Caroline Kennedy would provide the Senate with additional much needed ‘diversity’. Instead of simply being a rich man’s club as originally envisioned by many of the Founding Fathers, it’s time the Senate became a rich woman’s club too, in the interest of ‘equality’.  Caroline will be following “doggedly” in the pioneering footsteps of another superrich, well-connected carpetbagger like Clinton, the first female multimillionare Senator from NY.  Caroline, like Hillary, has gotten where she is today on merit - the great merit of her family connections. She started at the top and is working her way across. Caroline has impeccable credentials for the Senate. She’s fabulously wealthy - even richer than Hillary - and could personally fund much of a future electoral campaign on her own - not to mention the “rolodex” piggy bank of the Kennedy bootlegger-heirs. She’s an experienced socialite (not to be confused with socialist), and would fit right in at Georgetown townhouse cocktail parties - as well, as hosting many exclusive Washington galas of her own, no doubt. She also brings all of her vast political experience as a member of the Obama Copacabana campaign’s vice presidential selection committee to bear in deciding the weighty matters of high political office. An ideal preparation for becoming one of the new administration’s reliable henchwomen in the Senate. Kennedy’s name is sufficiently prominent and publicized so as to provide a ready made pre-fabricated ‘narrative’, just about all a 21st century pol really needs anymore.  And her political views on the pressing issues of the day are sufficiently obscure and unknown so as to pose no great obstacle to widespread acceptance. If her deliberations on the VP search committee are any indication she may well share the hawkish foreign policy tendencies and corporate slavishness of Joe Biden, who has her personal seal of approval. There’s probably also a little of playboy Uncle Teddy’s tepid reformism mixed in too, and a large dose of Hillary’s crass opportunism. And like all three, Caroline will doubtless be a loyal AIPAC servant. All in all, a product of her class who can be expected to ably defend their interests. What more could anyone expect from a Democrat in the newly ‘inclusive’, but still oldly exclusive, Senate rich person’s club. “How, indeed, can the same “progressives” who opposed Clinton’s election as president because they were repelled by”...her ruthless ambition, unbridled egotism and nasty class politics not be likewise aghast at another such “monster” in the Senate?

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By Libarchist, December 11, 2008 at 3:42 am #

As a New Yorker—- I see the reasons why they would crown her with the seat.

Politics is all about the cultish fad of personality, and perception, created by the advertising engineers…we the people… have become sheep for the powers that be.

Just look at Obama, probably, the greatest cult leader of all time.

Sit back… relax…. as we watch a badly produced Class C movie… be a good American… accept the collective mind… with regards to political speak.

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By steven andresen, December 11, 2008 at 2:46 am #
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I think I’m for competent, honest, politicians who work for the interest of the people. If Caroline Kennedy is that kind, then I’m for her. If she’d win an election I’d be more supportive.

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By JimBob, December 11, 2008 at 2:37 am #

It’s amusing how everyone’s up in arms about this when it’s nothing but an unattributed rumor.  Paterson’s way too smart to do this, and we have no indication that he’s considering it at all, much less seriously.  Calm down, folks—the election is over, find something to do with all that excess energy.

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By doglover, December 11, 2008 at 1:44 am #
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Differences between the Palin & Kennedy appointments:
Palin was appointed to run for next in line to the highest office in America.  Kennedy would be a Junior Senator, appointed short term.

Palin’s foreign expertise was watching Russia from her state. Kennedy has clearly spent time abroad and with officials.  I’m certain Kennedy would have known whether she was talking to Sarkozy or a radio prankster, for example.

Palin and Kennedy’s educational backgrounds are extremely different. Kennedy has her JD.

Historically, spouses with no experience have been appointed to the Senate as interim - when a Senator dies.

Palin may have been over-vilified by the media. But your comparison between a VP of the US and a temporary Senator is asinine.

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By Mike, December 10, 2008 at 11:41 pm #
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She meets the contemporary requirements for high office: she’s unqualified (never in elected office; therefore, no demonstrated political skills or accomplishments), wealthy, and has name recognition. 

Add her to the list - Bloomberg, Corzine, Schwartzeneger, Hilary Clinton, Spitzer, etc. and you wonder why the working/middle class is disappearing? 

Unlike the conditions for providing $15b to Detroit, the Wall St./bank leaders were not ridiculed for how they got to the meetings and no timetables, conditions, or oversight czars were imposed in return for $770b of our money.  Worker/union jobs would be saved and this is unacceptable to the whole political establishment, including our millionaire/billionaire “representatives”.

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By redwhiteblue, December 10, 2008 at 10:47 pm #
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Speaking of Palin.See how their people spend your money. Being governor of Alaska, she must have already had a decent wardrobe, so why did they spend all that money? Give expensive clothes like that to charity? Please which thrift shop will get her fancy duds? Again, I will post Kennedy’s resume.
  December 5th, 2008 1:24 pm ET
Caroline Kennedy’s resume (from wikipedia):
B.A. from Harvard University
J.D. from Columbia Law School
Wrote two books with Ellen Alderman:
* In Our Defense: The Bill of Rights In Action (1990)
* The Right to Privacy (1995)
She has also edited several books and written one on the Kennedy family.
She is currently President of the Kennedy Library Foundation, a director of both the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and Honorary Chairman of the American Ballet Theatre. She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics, a living memorial to her father.
Does this sound like Paris Hilton or Sarah Palin?

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By samosamo, December 10, 2008 at 10:12 pm #

My take is that caroline kennedy is an elite, just exactly what is NOT needed in congress. I don’t doubt she could be vastly more educated and smarter than that other woman but I thought the main idea of electing people was to somehow crush the hold the rich have on congress, the presidency or any positions in government. Everyone seems to think the rich elite are the only people to serve in an elected position and I would have thought that the current situation favoring the rich/elite was evidence enough to break that trend. I don’t want people that are protecting their golden geese making decisions for me about how they will keep their addiction to money up at my expense by allowing me to have a little ‘trickle down’ effect.
Even the election of anybody needs to be held to that awful part of a democracy no body likes to do and that is keep an eternal vigilance to protect what creates and insures a strong middle class; and not to single out caroline who could be one of the most caring, honest and fair people in the world, but the kennedy’s are supposedly supposed to have amassed their fortune by smuggling contraband into this country, mostly liquor, but who knows what else. Is this the family we want to keep calling the shots in our government? We supposedly have a change in party for president on the idea of change, I hold to that in change also in who serves elsewhere and not by retaining the old family ties.

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By Jim C, December 10, 2008 at 8:04 pm #

Here , let me try to answer that . While I’m not certain about putting Kennedy in the senate , I can explain the difference between the two . OK , here goes , Caroline Kennedy is well educated , extremely intellegent , has devoted her life to public service is honest , unassuming, thoughtful , has a first class mind and has always shown concern for those less fortunate , not to mention good judgement . Sarah Palin on the other hand is an opportunistic bimbo with at best a mediocre intellect who is driven by power lust and the delusion that she’s qualified for any office higher than the local PTA , if that .

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By tdbach, December 10, 2008 at 7:27 pm #

Marie has a point, whether y’all want to acknowledge it or not (and it isn’t payback for Clinton losing the primary). Pointing to Palin was bound to meet with ridicule here, and it did - in spades. I’m sure Marie would agree with many of the points made, too. But to the wider world, the world outside this highly partisan domain, where Palin may not have been voted for but she wasn’t so despised, the world where traditional media writers like Marie are read, the Palin comparison would seem fair. Not perfect, but fair. Her opponents made a big deal of the fact that she was basically plucked from Mayor of a small town to a heartbeat away from the presidency with only the briefest stop-off at at the governor’s mansion. Ignorance of international politics aside, she hadn’t proved herself, through natural ascent in the political sphere, as she should have for her to be selected as a VP running mate. With that critique in mind, what is our defense for plucking Kennedy from academia to the hallowed halls of the US Senate? Celebrity appeal? Liberal bona fides? That was Palin’s proponents’ defense. It may look to a lot of America that both women were skipping a few steps. And Marie has a point, with the Dynasty issue. Didn’t we all bitch and moan about Bush and Clinton dynasties. All she’s asking for is a little reflection: are we being consistent?

Personally, I’m not worried about Kennedy assuming the Senate seat. In fact, I have a feeling she’ll be a spectacular senator. A seat in the Senate doesn’t present anything like the risks of being the commander in chief (or even next in line to be him/her). Patterson could do a lot worse than appointing Ms. Kennedy. But then I’m prepared to take some heat from my friends on the right for holding that opinion.

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By mill, December 10, 2008 at 7:10 pm #

Dissing people who don’t have elected office experience is just silly -  there are people who have better resumes than Ms. Kennedy (Mr. Cuomo, for one)to be one of two Senators from NY, but she is bright and well-informed. 

And dissing Sarah Palin .... people have it wrong that she isn’t bright, that is misguided.  Don’t judge her intelligence by where she graduated college - smart people do attend and graduate from the Idaho States of the world, in spite of coastal snobbery about what colleges matter - look how quickly she adapted to the national political scene -she stayed the story throughout, when she should have been a short footnote

Governor Palin is willfully ignorant, selfish, and right-wing-foolish, but she isn’t a dummy.

At least the NY governor isn’t selling the seat .... is he?!?!? 

Here’s a Minnesotan (born in Amityville NY) who would love to see Senator Cuomo take office representing NY in the Senate - but Ms. Kennedy would do the job and do it better than many long-term senators imho

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By Inherit The Wind, December 10, 2008 at 6:52 pm #

redwhiteblue, December 10 at 10:03 am #
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I was surprised to read this.
December 5th, 2008 1:24 pm ET
Caroline Kennedy’s resume (from wikipedia):
B.A. from Harvard University
J.D. from Columbia Law School
Wrote two books with Ellen Alderman:
* In Our Defense: The Bill of Rights In Action (1990)
* The Right to Privacy (1995)
She has also edited several books and written one on the Kennedy family.
She is currently President of the Kennedy Library Foundation, a director of both the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and Honorary Chairman of the American Ballet Theatre. She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics, a living memorial to her father.
Does this sound like Paris Hilton or Sarah Palin?

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I sure hope that’s not an “either/or” question! smile

(But of the two I think PH is a helluva lot brighter and more worldly than SP—Remember her spoof campaign ad “instead of that old wrinkly guy”—McCain? ‘Course that’s like saying she’s the smartest bear in the zoo.)

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By dihey, December 10, 2008 at 5:57 pm #

Mr. Stivers: Hillary Clinton was not given the Senate seat of New York. She had to run for it and won handily.

I understand that special elections for the Senate are expensive (so what, financial bailouts are expensive too)but I have never understood why empty seats can still be filled by Governors. My hunch is that the powerful of the past (read Founding Papas)did not trust “the rabble” to elect one of theirs. After all, Senators represent the people of their states and not their Governors. The system also throws monkey wrenches into political appointments. I am quite sure that Obama did not tap John Kerry for his Cabinet or for the White House because JK would be replaced with a Republican senator and I am sure that JK agreed.

Because Marie Cocco compares Carolyne Kennedy with Sarah Palin that is not a valid reason for thoughtlessly accepting a possible free-of-charge gift of the seat of New York Senator to CD.

I suspect that there are numerous good other candidates for the NY Senate seat with the same ultra-thin political experience of Carolyne.

Lastly, when Hillary Clinton declared herself a candidate the blogosphere reverberated with “Oh no, not another Clinton in the White House”. Come on, you great heroes, where is your “Oh no, not another Kennedy in the Senate”? Remember Bobby? He worked for…..Joe McCarthy. Remember John? A notorious womanizer, worse than President Bill. Remember Chappaquiddick? The flip-flopping Kennedy’s are loaded with problems. When they discovered that the Republican Party did not offer them much chances for political advancement they fled to the Democrats. Papa was a dyed-in-the-wool Republican who hated F. D.Roosevelt. Their “leftism” is paper-thin if it exists at all.

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By abdo, December 10, 2008 at 5:32 pm #

For here talent and embracing the agenda of Obama, she would be a wonderful ambassador anywhere

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By abdo, December 10, 2008 at 5:29 pm #

It is not about kennedy or Palin ? With the disgusting news from Illinois no senator should be named by any body but the voters. Governors can name an interim person to run the duties for a 2-3 month period but a special election should be the way to go

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By Spiritgirl, December 10, 2008 at 5:23 pm #

There are a few problems regarding the logic that you used in this article.  First comparing Kennedy to Palin is comparing apples to oranges.  Kennedy is intelligent, and she has worked behind the scenes in private foundations for the public good!  And although she has not worked in politics, she has been around politics and has probably absorbed and has the intellect to understand the issues.  Not only that but she will not be next in line behind a 70+ year old cancer survivor(this is no slur against cancer survivors)  for the the highest office in this Nation!  Ms Palin doesn’t have the intellect of a tsetse fly.  While she may be cute - she has the attitude of a mean cheerleader!  We need no more incompetence in the White House - 8 years is more than enough, thank you.  Ms. Palin’s lack of exposure to the world is comparable with that of the current Imperial One, and how is that working out for the nation?!

As this nation has been voting for “people of/with experience (aka Ideologues with ideologies that we the people are now paying dearly for!)” - that obviously isn’t working out too well!  What is needed for the office of the Presidency are people with an intellect!  I for one would welcome an amendment to the Constitution that requires a person have a working intelligence in order to seek the office of the Presidency!  This nation has been dumbed down to the point that having an intellect is often made fun of, as opposed to people in public office that can’t/don’t speak English properly, can’t pronounce words, don’t pronounce the endings of words - that is the anathma!  It tells the world, much about the caliber of the people of that nation that such a one would be voted into office! 

So while Ms. Kennedy would be picked to serve out the remainder of Ms. Clinton’s time as Senator, that doesn’t rule out her running in 2010!  It also doesn’t make her unqualified for the job!  Whereas in the case of Ms. Palin - she will require much work if she should choose to run for the Presidency in 2012!!!!

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By James Bowen, December 10, 2008 at 4:08 pm #

The big complaint against Sarah Palin was not her lack of experience but rather her demonstrated ignorance and that coupled with her lying was enough to disqualify he for the office. Caroline Kennedy does not have those problems. She has proven that she is knowledgeable and intelligent.
That’s enough for me. Experience is overrated because the fact is some people never learn.

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By Rosemary Molloy, December 10, 2008 at 3:47 pm #
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Don’t you understand?  All this was agreed upon before the campaign even began:  “Come out for me, Caroline, and I’ll appoint Hillary to State and you’ll get her senate seat.”  The ruling class perpetuates itself and we proles don’t even get near the throne.

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By Allan Krueger, December 10, 2008 at 3:37 pm #

How can you make a comparison between Caroline Kennedy and Sarah Palin? There is no comparison! You betcha!

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By redwhiteblue, December 10, 2008 at 3:03 pm #
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I was surprised to read this.
December 5th, 2008 1:24 pm ET
Caroline Kennedy’s resume (from wikipedia):
B.A. from Harvard University
J.D. from Columbia Law School
Wrote two books with Ellen Alderman:
* In Our Defense: The Bill of Rights In Action (1990)
* The Right to Privacy (1995)
She has also edited several books and written one on the Kennedy family.
She is currently President of the Kennedy Library Foundation, a director of both the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and Honorary Chairman of the American Ballet Theatre. She is also an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics, a living memorial to her father.
Does this sound like Paris Hilton or Sarah Palin?

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By Don Stivers, December 10, 2008 at 2:49 pm #

It is a SENATE seat.  What did Hillary do before SHE was Senator?

If the Republicans can go ga ga over Palen, I think Caroline Kennedy would run circles around Palen if you asked the same questions of them about world affairs. 

I think Caroline Kennedy is more honest than Hillary.  Hillary talks out of the side of her mouth.  She voted to give an idiot the power to go to war.

And I’m a Republican.  But after the last eight years I don’t know what I am.  Seems all politicians are corrupt.

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By Eric L. Prentis, December 10, 2008 at 2:23 pm #

Caroline Kennedy for NY senator, who has never held any elected state office, is bald-face nepotism and an affront to meritocracy. If Americans want to honor Caroline, give her an award but don’t put a rank amateur in the US senate.

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By Inherit The Wind, December 10, 2008 at 2:21 pm #

The Janitor, December 10 at 7:57 am #
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Inherit the Wind wrote that Palin has “a 6 year 5 college bullshit degree in “journalism” from an nowhere school in Bumfuck, Iowa (or was it North Dakota?)”

Wrong.  According to Wikipedia, “In 1982, [Palin] enrolled at Hawaii Pacific College, but left after her first semester. She transferred to North Idaho community college, where she spent two semesters as a general studies major. From there, she transferred to the University of Idaho for two semesters. During this time Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant, then finished third in the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant, at which she won a college scholarship and the “Miss Congeniality” award. Afterwards, Palin attended the Matanuska-Susitna community college in Alaska for one term. The next year she returned to the University of Idaho where she spent three semesters completing her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987.”

So, by my count, as she was at the University of Idaho twice, Palin has a 6-year, 4-college BS degree communications-journalism.

Iowans put Obama on the high road to the White House with his victory in the Iowa Caucuses.  Don’t blame us for anything Palin, please.
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Whoops! Sorry about that. It was Idaho, not Iowa (They spell almost the same, you know….)

6 year 5 college, 6 year 4 college—It’s hard to keep track of all the no-where schools this non-entity went.  I half expected to see she was at the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople, too. (Fans of PDQ Bach will remember that!)  Love that classy t-shirt she was photoed in—“I may be broke but I’m not flat-busted!”  Real class, that!

Yeah, Sarah Palin really compares to Caroline Kennedy, doesn’t she.  Besides, how much experience did her cousin-in-law have before becoming the Governator of California?  Anyone here think she couldn’t do a better job than him? (and he’s no dummy).

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By jberg, December 10, 2008 at 2:12 pm #
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I agree with others. No story here.

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By Gus, December 10, 2008 at 1:46 pm #
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To compare Caroline kennedy with Sarah Palin is really an insult. The only reason Marie Cocco is saying these things of CK is because she endorsed Obama from the get-go and Ms Cocco endorsed Hillary. I truly believe she is trying to discredit CK because Ms Cocco is still mad just like some of Hillary supporters are. They all felt that Hillary should have been given the nomination no matter what, as if she was entitled to it just because of her name. When Hillary ran for Senate she did not have ANY kind of experience and didn’t even lived in the state long enough. So, please Ms Cocco, get over it, the Chicago gang won this election and the Obama team defeated Hillary and her great New York money machine fair and square. Get over it.

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By C.P.T.L., December 10, 2008 at 1:34 pm #
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I like that principle is attempted to be applied equally to both parties, as it should be, but then it comes apart at the seams with any suggestion of corollaries between Sarah Palin and Caroline Kennedy. And the critical flaw is in our, American’s, confusion, or lost capacity to reckon on character, what it is, and how it might apply to politics and politicians - even what is a politician.

Or, rather, what kind of person we will allow to fill the position of politician now that we have experienced false politicians - the GOP imposters lying en masse and deliberately misgoverning our country into ruin.

That abyssmal populist circus masquerading as a presidential campaign by those two-faced condescending ego-maniacs, McCain-Palin, was our country’s mass intellectual failure. What else accounts for half the nation and all of the press corps’ failure to negotiate the simple distinction between what aped a viable candidacy, but did not actually offer one - and what was an actual presidential possibility, fulfilling the requirements of a candidacy? You know, stuff like answering questions.

Sarah Palin was not the only one unqualified for the presidency, McCain was illegitimate as well. He disqualified himself and no one had the sight, the sense or guts, or all three, to say it.

Regardless of political party, there are two different kinds of political persons, those like Caroline Kennedy that mean to serve people and their country and work to persuade others to join their cause -

and then there are the ego-centered, party-loyalty-before-all-else liars, practicing propaganda, sold out to business interests, drawing strength from their fellow liars - as Boëthius describes it, “every ruffian incited by impunity to new daring and to success by the profits of audacity,” those that seek to further their aims through deliberate misgovernance, who should not be in government.

Sarah Palin was not “an inexperienced political wannabe”.

Sarah Palin hasn’t a civic bone in her body. Sarah Palin couldn’t speak her way out of a wet paper bag because she wasn’t mentally capable of her aspiration, was not educated for it and her intent was bound up in her own success, not serving people. I grant her nothing; I cut her no slack; she sounded stupid, vague and false because she is stupid, she didn’t know what she wanted beyond attention for herself and she knew she had to hide it or be found an imposter.

And she’s a liar. Not a persuader, a liar. Unless you are one of those who consider practiced lying through one’s teeth to be politics, and the practiced liar who convinces many people of falsity to be a politician.

Caroline Kennedy negotiating the Senate for the first time is not remotely the same quantity as Sarah Palin negotiating the White House on thin credentials, thin intellect, thin education, poor diction, no integrity, a bloated out of control ego, souless sold-out loyalties and not a hope in hell of aquiring what she needed because it never would cross her mind she was lacking.

So, “What, exactly, is the case to be made for Caroline Kennedy?” That question spells out America’s T.V.-sodden, mush-minded, morally adrift, lost identity in a single sentence. Blundering through the pundidtry’s constructs, blind to the forest for the trees, what more do you want?

Caroline Kennedy is intelligent, we don’t have to guess at that. We know what her family’s politics are and we know her intent is decent and that is what it’s all about - a persuader, not a liar - with proven intelligence, civic-minded decent purpose, and personal character - sounds like a fine politician to me.

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By Alan, December 10, 2008 at 1:33 pm #
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Hold on a minute Lady!  I’m not necessarily an
advocate of Caroline Kennedy as NY’s new Senator,
however it is ludicrous to compare her to a semi-literate boob!

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By SamSnedegar, December 10, 2008 at 1:06 pm #

“...if these are the sole qualifications…”

Ah, but they are not! Palin has a certain shrewdness and understanding of mob psychology, but Kennedy has ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE, for which there is no known substitute.

There is also the fact that Kennedy cares about others where Palin cares only for Palin.

One doesn’t need much to fit in with the members of the US Senate, particularly Inhofe, Sessions, McConnell, Hatch, Craig, and McCain, all of whom are severely dysfunctional mentally.

Kennedy would shine forth like an Einstein among retarded people.

In fact, ask yourself, “who are the best Senators in HISTORY?” It will be a short list, I trow.

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By The Janitor, December 10, 2008 at 12:57 pm #
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Inherit the Wind wrote that Palin has “a 6 year 5 college bullshit degree in “journalism” from an nowhere school in Bumfuck, Iowa (or was it North Dakota?)” 

Wrong.  According to Wikipedia, “In 1982, [Palin] enrolled at Hawaii Pacific College, but left after her first semester. She transferred to North Idaho community college, where she spent two semesters as a general studies major. From there, she transferred to the University of Idaho for two semesters. During this time Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant, then finished third in the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant, at which she won a college scholarship and the “Miss Congeniality” award. Afterwards, Palin attended the Matanuska-Susitna community college in Alaska for one term. The next year she returned to the University of Idaho where she spent three semesters completing her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987.”

So, by my count, as she was at the University of Idaho twice, Palin has a 6-year, 4-college BS degree communications-journalism.

Iowans put Obama on the high road to the White House with his victory in the Iowa Caucuses.  Don’t blame us for anything Palin, please.

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By Anarcissie, December 10, 2008 at 12:50 pm #

If experience doesn’t matter, then maybe the Senate seat should be filled by lottery.  Let all legally qualified citizens who want the job put their name in a big hat, and the governor can pull one out….

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By felicity, December 10, 2008 at 12:32 pm #

I echo brandon/steele.  For those hung-up on experience - good, bad, indifferent, different - doesn’t seem to matter, I suggest starting a movement to amend the Constitution adding to the requirements for Senator to include ‘experience.’

Carter, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and II, Clinton - all men of ‘experience’ - were hardly advertisements that ‘experience’ predicts stellar performance in a job.

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By jerrypl, December 10, 2008 at 12:22 pm #
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Caroline Kennedy may not have run for office as most freshman senators do. Many of them never held public office in their lives. It is not about experience, as we have seen with our president, who was the boy governor of Texas, and ran a few failed and sorry companies into the ground.

I agree, the question should be is she intelligent? Can she make sound and reasoned decisions for her constituents? Is she honest and transparent?

There is no article here. There is no debate. It is a decision for the governor to make. We have had numerous “experienced” congressman who have been filled with corruption, greed, and dishonesty and continue to remain in their elected seats.

So, what was the point of the article, anyway? If she can do the job, then so be it. If not, then she is gone on election day.

http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com

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By TonyT, December 10, 2008 at 12:15 pm #
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Palin had more working against her than just “inexperience”. 

In fact the “inexperience” was the least of her concerns. 

As far as myself, I view experience as a detriment if it yeilds a career without tangible results which clearly place people in a better position than they were in before.  Which makes almost anyone with “experience” in the political arena today totally worthless.

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By Shirley Harper, December 10, 2008 at 11:22 am #
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I think Ted Kennedy is hoping she will carry forward with his Insurance plan, just in case he doesn’t live long enought to get it passed.

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By Little Brother, December 10, 2008 at 10:52 am #

But she’s a Kennedy!  A Kennedy!!  It’s like having a “Get Into Political Office Free” card!  Have you no appreciation for Amerikan Reformed Royalism at all?

Dontcha see?

And moderate/liberal Democrats hate that tricksy monster “Calamity Sarah” Palin.  They hates her to pieces!!

How dare you even put Beauty and the Beast into the same article?

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By Leisure Suit Larry, December 10, 2008 at 10:40 am #
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Inherit The Wind, December 10 at 4:17

“She led the VP search for Obama, and was one of the FIRST prominent people to endorse him.”

We agree…partially…

The reason Cocco puffs is having a hissy-fit is she wanted a WOMAN president, and any woman would do. 

Clinton served not one day in elected office before becomong New York’s Senator. Actually neither did CK’s famous Uncle…

Unlike some senatorial trash, CK speaks three languages fluently, has been under the public microscope since she was three, and kbows the people who are important to know. 

Cocco intimated (in a previous column) that we owed Clinton the presidential nomination.. (I guess because she was the woman, and front runner at the time) Please tell me what the USA (if you believe in these debts) “Owes” Caroline Kennedy? My guess is she has sacrificed far more than the woman named for a breakfast food.

A Senator with little elected experiance is acceptable (IMHO) they could even be that breath of fresh air (although Andrew Cuomo could be that too)  The office of President is a totally different story.

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By brandon|steele, December 10, 2008 at 10:20 am #

Comparing Kennedy’s appointment to a Senate seat to Palin’s potential election as Vice President behind a three time cancer survivor, who underwent severe trauma while a POW and is near his mid-70s, and saying they are the same is a non sequitor.  It simply doesn’t follow logically that they are the same.

Palin is Governor of Alaska and many see her as a potential candidate to challenge the Repub incumbent in 2010’s Senate race.  That’s fine.  She doesn’t need experience to be in the Senate, nor does she need experience to be Governor.  Arnold didn’t need experience in California.  But, it would be nice to have some experience, or, if you don’t like Obama, at least some intelligence to be for all intents and purposes Commander in Chief.  Palin doesn’t have either of these and that’s why the thought of her in the Oval Office scared many people.

Kennedy is not running for President, in fact she doesn’t appear to be running for much of anything; instead it seems to be her family that wants her to serve.  And so what?  Hillary Clinton herself had no prior elected experience, she merely had been around those who did (just as Kennedy has).  Ted Kennedy had no elected experience when he won his Senate seat.  John Corzine had not elected experience prior to winning his Senate seat and had only a few years in the Senate before being elected Governor of New Jersey.  What elected experience did Michael Bloomburg have before becoming the Mayor of NYC?  Al Franken had no elected experience before running for the MN Senate seat. 

Thus, experience is a very weak foundation to base this article on.  The questions really are: is she intelligent? can she act in an ethical manner? will she uphold the interests of New Yorkers?  will she surround herself with a solid staff?  can she negotiate compromise? If experience was the most important factor, everyone in the Senate would be Robert Byrd.

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By marta, December 10, 2008 at 10:01 am #
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Caroline Kennedy was weaned on politics,knows the insides and out, has the knowledge to be a Senator, and didn’t use her looks to wiggle up to where she is like Palin. Caroline used her brain, not her wiggle, and winks.

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By get real, December 10, 2008 at 9:43 am #
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How in heavens name could this even get
printed. There is no comparison. Caroline
wins hands down. She is educated, smart,
can think for herself and does not need
the money. Case closed.

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By Inherit The Wind, December 10, 2008 at 9:17 am #

Yeah, but I’ll bet CK knows where Russia is, and who the President of France is, and can name more than one Supreme Court decision.  She can also string together a paragraph of coherent thoughts, and name the newspapers she read today.

She led the VP search for Obama, and was one of the FIRST prominent people to endorse him.  Her education includes a law degree, not a 6 year 5 college bullshit degree in “journalism” from an nowhere school in Bumfuck, Iowa (or was it North Dakota?)

Plus, CK knows how to put “G"s on the end of words when she’s speaking, not speakin’!

Besides, the Kennedy daughters almost always are brighter and more sensible than the Kennedy sons.  And they keep their clothing on when they are supposed to!

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By cyrena, December 10, 2008 at 9:09 am #

Somebody goofed. There’s no story/report uploaded here. Just the title, which isn’t a particularly good one, especially without a story.

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By Robert, December 10, 2008 at 9:05 am #
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Oh please…  Democrats didn’t criticize Palin for inexperience.  Democrats criticized Palin because she was stupid.  She couldn’t answer questions.  She thought Africa was a European country.  Her ‘English’ was of the trailer park variety.  Sentence structure very difficult to follow. 

Public office experience is not a requirement to intelligence or leadership skills. 

Caroline Kennedy is educated and articulate.  Her political background, just from being a central figure in the Kennedy family is enough for most people to support her.  If she couldn’t answer questions. If she made stupid statements like, for example, she had foreign policy because Russia is next to her state, or because Canada borders New York… well…  then she’d have a problem.

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