The unruly gaggle of permanent lobbyists/politicians in Washington DC sell to the American people *whatever* sells.  WHATEVER. 

Their rhetoric is a roadmap to whatever is the *greatest* most spectacular vulnerability or unplumbed depth Americans are still unware of, unable to face, unable to rationally consider.  Prominantly among these vast rivers of energy, more potent, more useful than oil or coal—are the ignoramuses among the human population….. Who pound their chests, for America.

By KDelphi, November 23 at 12:02 pm

‘One thing we could do in this country is to stop being so selfish. Well, no i guess it seems that we cant.’

Absolutely, this is just one of the objectives of the msm mind control, all other peoples are second rate to us and our hubris, supported by msm marketing and advertizing for the corporate interests, keeps us keeps us this way. The threads and tangles of the corporate media run deep and to untangle them would take education and the information the msm does not provide to see things clearly. Nope, no selfishlessness here.

Health care is only a small issue, if you , and the people you care about, either do not need it, or, already have it.

InTheKnow—People get old. People have accidents. People have genetic predispositions. People in other countries, that provide heatlh care, live longer and happier lives. No one will make you go to get health care. Youre just lucky. I know people who have lead exemplary lives, “health wise”, no smoking, drinking, exercising—one I am thinking of died of brain cancer anyway. I could name you many more.

Be careful, or you will look like you are falling for the MSM megaphone too.

One thing we could do in this country is to stop being so selfish. Well, no i guess it seems that we cant.

Of course we have to stop the “war(s)” to afford anything—even to survive, as a country..but I dont think anybody even thinks we will have anyone seriously working on that anymore.If we are to stop the “war on terror”—it will take alot more than “voting”..hell, we cant even get the School of the Americas closed! And Blackwater opens new training sites every week..

I have certainly thought of just “dying” rather than bothering , anymore, also. But, make sure it works! If it does not, you can be charged. Seriously. It is against the law to try to commit suicide.

If we make it a tax issue—may be we could, at least, get that law changed.That is something everyone seem to care about—taxes. Tax rebates. Stimulus pkgs…

Everyday people complain and worry about the cost of healthcare in this country. Most people would only need to see a doctor once per year for a routine physical if they changed their lifestyle(s). Preventive medicine is a healthy lifestyle and is much more effective than an allopathic doctor armed with a prescription pad and scalpel.
As for the differences between the two political parties: it’s not much. Experienced voters should know this. Also, campaign promises are often made with the understanding that the legislative branch will modify or nullify any promised changed.

I had no illusions about this past election. I felt that voting as many republicans as possible out of office was the top priority. The problem with that is they would have to be replaced by democrats where the similarity is about the same as a human to a chimpanzee, 95 to 98.5%.
“It has long been held that we share 98.5 per cent of our genetic material with our closest relatives. That now appears to be wrong. In fact, we share less than 95 per cent of our genetic material, a three-fold increase in the variation between us and chimps”.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2833-humanchimp-dna-difference-trebled.html

or

“Researchers already know that humans and chimpanzees share about 98 percent of the same genes. But rather than searching for mutations, Redon’s team looked at a relatively unstudied phenomenon known as copy number variation, or CNV, in which genes are redundantly duplicated”.
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/11/exploring-the-g.html

You can decide which party represents which.
Having taken control, the democrats have not shown much promise for me for the kind of changes we need. Been a lot of petty grabs for rights and things for the suffering masses and there are the beginnings of the appointments that are not making me feel too good about the next term of congress and the president. Except for the dread I feel of pelosi and reid retaining their jobs, I will try to give 100 days to hold on to my hopes for the changes needed which by then, both congress and the president should have begun to establish a plan and system for what they will do to this country. But I really wish there were lot more 3rd party people elected and independents like bernie sanders of Vermont.
But the biggest issues will tell me pretty quick as to how this ‘new’ government will play out and I hope that I won’t be crying at the end of 100 days or even sooner.

By toddboyle, November 22 at 5:04 pm #

The ordinary person can be forgiven for thinking that the extreme medical services that the rich are buying for themselves, might be available to all of us. That’s as ludicrous as wanting your own private jet—there aren’t going to be 300 million private jets.  We don’t even *want* that level of medical services.  It implies turning over a large percentage of your lifetime earnings to the (ridiculously overpaid) doctors and (ridiculously expensive) hospitals.  I have gone my whole life NEVER paying for health insurance and I have had a few rough patches.  Im 56 and when I eventually face a big medical crisis I will beg, scream, cry, apply for aid… all the while knowing, it’s unlikely and I never lifted a finger or paid one dollar to support it—- so—I fully expect, when I get cancer or whatever—I will die.  And that’s a bargain that has given me a whole life of freedom- freedom from work.  I have only really workd a few brief intervals in my life, 3 or 4 years, now and then.  Life is to be lived.  not to spend in the harness.
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Maynard is that you Maynard G. Crabbs from the Dobie Gillis TV show.  Ok, is it you Gilligan from Giligan’s Island.  How’s the Skipper, the Professor, Thurston Howell III and his wife luvy.  How about Gindger and Marieanne.  How’s that crazy Southamerican dictator that got stranded on the island.  You know the one that told you, “...the people, promise them dis, dat and de oder ting…” (tanslation:  Promise them, this, that, and the other thing.)LOL

The ordinary person can be forgiven for thinking that the extreme medical services that the rich are buying for themselves, might be available to all of us. That’s as ludicrous as wanting your own private jet—there aren’t going to be 300 million private jets.  We don’t even *want* that level of medical services.  It implies turning over a large percentage of your lifetime earnings to the (ridiculously overpaid) doctors and (ridiculously expensive) hospitals.  I have gone my whole life NEVER paying for health insurance and I have had a few rough patches.  Im 56 and when I eventually face a big medical crisis I will beg, scream, cry, apply for aid… all the while knowing, it’s unlikely and I never lifted a finger or paid one dollar to support it—- so—I fully expect, when I get cancer or whatever—I will die.  And that’s a bargain that has given me a whole life of freedom- freedom from work.  I have only really workd a few brief intervals in my life, 3 or 4 years, now and then.  Life is to be lived.  not to spend in the harness.

I liked Senator Webb’s interjection when an intervier announced him as a conservative Democrat. He said, “First, of all let me correct something you said.  I am not a conservative Democrat.”  The interviewer continued as if he were deaf.
Noam Chomsky gave a talk where he listd the poll numbers of surveys given to the Amerrican people.  We are overwhelmingly liberal.  I think the lowest per cent margin was would we pay more in taxes for better health insurance, 70% for to 30% against. The ranges in the other questions were in the 80% range.

All the wars since at least WW2 have NOT been self defense. The U.S. has killed millions of innocent people in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq.  These people never attacked America. 90% of the people killed, are noncombatants.  Children, elderly, bystanders. The US congress and pres. and the US military are institutions out of control. They are in an illegal status, violating laws and treaties NOT defending us.
Politicians are pandering to, and exploiting, the ignorance and the passions of the 300 million Americans.  It is up to ALL OF US, to reach and teach, these ignoramuses, these neanderthals, who elect people to wage war against our fellow humans around the world.

The military should be used ONLY to defend the territory that is our jurisdiction.

Does anybody here remember the Republicans and Newt Ginrich the driving force with the Contract with America.  A written document with text specifying 10 pieces of legislation.  It was signed by all but two of the Republican members of the House and all of the Party’s non-incumbent Republican Congressional candidates. Most of the bills died in the Senate.
What a surprise. 

To begin with most voters do not know contract law.
So they missed the fact that Contract with America was not worth the paper it was written. 

First the matters contracted for cannot be illegal or inequitable.  America is ok so far.

There are a few steps in between but nothing that would not make the contract not legally binding.

Next is the contracting parties.  We are ok on the Congressmen’s side.  But oops America is not a legal entity that would be recognized by a court of competent jurisdiction.  It would have been necessary to incorporate America to make it America, Inc. and then the Contract with America could have been signed by its duly appointed officer(s).  Now we are ok again regarding parties to the contract.

I could go on but you get the idea.

Where is the legally binding written agreement with Barack Obama and Congress?

I think there is more than a braindead megaphone involved here.

Health care is by no means the most important issue; it is a red herring to divert attention from the economy, war, and the develooping police state.  It is of course essential, but it is being touted by establishment truthers to maintain Obama’s progressive credentials as he serves his corporate masters.

In any case, Obama is unlikely to deliver on it.  Or any progressive plank that he campaigned on.

Sirota must’ve written this before Obama was devoured by the Clinton regime.

Need funds for a universal health care system that saves lives? How about end the wars abroad that destroy lives and livelihoods? Maybe close the hundreds of bases in over 100 countries around the world. Do we really need to occupy the planet? Nope.

Creation before destruction.
Life before death.