I was watching McCain’s speech today. The man makes me physically ill to look at, much less to listen to. Obama may be laying out plans that he will utlimately not be able to carry out, but at least he is offering SOMETHING. McCain and Palin keep spewing the same rhetoric “trust us, we are mavericks, we will fix everything, we will reform everything (wild applause)”. Yet they never quite say how.

I cannot risk that man becoming President. I cannot stand the thought of Sarah Palin being that close to the Presidency. I cannot stand the thought of rewarding all the people who will vote for that woman just because they see themselves in her ignorance and self-righteous platitudes.

I will vote for Obama and Biden not because of what they will be able to do for our country from a legislative standpoint - we all know their hands are already tied regardless. But I will vote for Obama and Biden for the sheer fact that if this country is going to reclaim itself, it needs to start by sending a message to all of the people who have really busted their asses, donated money, and fought to wrestle the presidency out of the grips of neocon domination. It is those people who need some encouragement that they will have a tomorrow. Those people who can’t afford to live here, but can’t afford to leave either. Those people truly do not have a choice. A McCain presidency will do far more harm, and I cannot let that happen.

The Great Bailout Swindle is done. The bankers are saved and Wall St has more of our money to play with now that it has pissed away all of OUR money it already blew. Funny thing: Capitalism is still finished. The stock market is dead and diving daily, jobs are gone, banks are failing, and capital is shrinking because the fascist/Bourgieosie/corporate elite are still running the same con and the workers are still buying into their shell game.

We cannot allow this to continue as more banks and large corporations go tits up in the coming months. No more rescues at the expense of the workers. The one class that has done its job is getting shafted, as it always has historically. We are presented two POTUS candidates-one who wants two Iraq wars side by side, the other who wants two in Iran and Pakistan. A military draft is coming, folks. The bottom line is that the war is what got us in this mess, along with some greed to ice the bitter cake. Demonstrations against wars of aggression and occupation are a start. People in the streets to protest selling out the workers and giving a trillion to Wall St, while no moratorium on house foreclosures, mandatory mortgage renegotiation regs, or other steps to protect the workers were included-much less an increase in minimum slave wages or mandatory, universal health care. The workers have been sold out and Wall St just bought a government with our money. What a buy.

Calls to senators and congressmen were running 100 to 1 against the bailout.  You can’t hold their feet any closer to the fire than that and democrats still voted in favor of the bill by large margins.  Vote for democrats if it makes you feel better but don’t expect them to listen to you.

Just a little mental exercise here. Remember right after the 2006 election and everyone was aglow with the dems taking the majority in both house & senate? Now, remember the disappointment after about 100 days, give or take a hundred, that is was obvious that the new congress was not about to ‘change’ things and most disheartening was pelosi’s ‘impeachment off the table for w & dick’ as the reality sunk in even deeper and deeper.
Remember also, that just after the election(2006) how all these presidential wannabes started a 2 and 1/2 year run for the presidency and all the campaigning and debates that took place? Well, remember also that just up until the end of 2007 the wannabes were ‘sorted out’ by the press or msm, making the remaining wannabes the choice the parties wanted running. Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and a couple of others were bumped off the debates or conferences? Their voices wound up on the internet and other out of the main stream places so as not to influence the acceptable choices or the people’s washed out brains that there was a whole lot more concerned and knowledgeable people running for the presidency.  Some will appear on the ballots anyway but all of them were ignored because they made real sense.
There is your reason for there being no choice. My exact thoughts when it was pretty well known who was left in the running and who my favorites were cut out. Make no mistake, the msm may not have chosen who was to be the presidential contenders but they were damn sure told who to leave out and who to allow to continue on the msm, THE most visible medium for information in these Dictatorship of the United States.
Made me mad because of all the pandering and groveling for ‘votes’ I have been forced to accept that if the race is close towards the end of the election day, I will be forced to cast my vote to hopefully keep someone(s) from becoming president and vp. If it isn’t close I will vote for someone other than a dem or repub and that especially goes for the senate and house seats up for election, probably more important than the presidency.
Now, is it a little more clear how there are NO choices? This keeps the nominees in the acceptable category of ‘there is not a damn bit of difference in the choices for president’. At most, the least worse. And until this is corrected, expect to be disappointed with in a hundred days of the transfer of power, IF that even happens.

a big mistake everyone here is making is this: our lawmakers are lawbreakers. They totally ignore oaths of office including Congress both Fed, & State: you talk about getting laws passed: folks: in Oregon st legislatures Sal Esquaval; Alan Bates, & Peter Buckley town hall meeting 1/28 & 1/29 08; stated all illegals having drivers licenses (given to them illegally by elected officials) will keep them; any new coming here will be given to them; July 08 Oregon law stated citizens need to show certified birth certs to get drivers licenses. WHAT GOOD does it do to “pass a law” when it is only for SHOW? or to HARM the citizens? do you UNDERSTAND our nation brought top Nazi’s over here & are going to “pass a law” for US to be NUMBERED? IT IS called Fed Id #s;

He had a brief, shining moment to prove he could lead, to capitalize on a popular revolt that cut across the political spectrum.
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That’s Chris Hedges....Like he would then have been an Obama supporter?  Yeah, Right!

The funny thing is that under this absurd rant and rave there is one thing:

Kucinich is probably right--guaranteeing the mortgages themselves would have been a far more effective way to spend $700 billion.  Since the mortgages themselves were the foundation of the house of cards, ensuring THEY were safe would not only save the banks and investment houses, it would save the families in their homes. Which is a lot more bang for the buck--all 700 billion of them.

Yet, once again DK couldn’t convince enough people to stick with him to be effective (which is always my criticism of DK--he doesn’t know how to get legislation passed.) But I’ll bet he’d make a heluva lot better SecTreas than Paulsen.

AS to the Dems and Gramm-Leach, the story goes that Weill of Citigroup called Clinton personally and told him to hurry the bill through.  Weill supposedly even has the pen that Clinton used to sign the bill on his “Wall of Me”.

As the election nears, if you have not seen the Letterman on Bush promises, you will find it a refreshing review. It remains to be seen if Obama would be in the same boat, I know McCain would be, only it pinning him down on a real issues is almost impossible, for he has not taken a stand on anything.

check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8_u1FLu30

What this article eloquently articulates and the manner in which Paulson’s plan was railed through congress — against an overwhelming tide of popular sentiment — both serve to illustrate par excellence is the degree to which the two-party system has utterly corrupted Representative Democracy. And the corrosive, if not destructive, implications for the integrity of our economy and free-market capitalism; the decay of the American dream, the apogee of American influence and the dimming of a great light unto the world.

The prime consequence of the two-party system is manifest in the endemic culture of corruption currently plaguing our capitol; creating an environment whereby moneyed-interests can easily own both sides of the aisle and extend a prohibition against alternate voices and view points, including the popular one.

The rectification of this glum circumstance lies in breaking the monopoly the two-party system has on the legislative and executive branch.  Therefore, if you live in an essentially settled red state or blue state, please consider casting a vote for a third party candidate rather than submitting a meaningless endorsement of a major party candidate.

For instance, in the state I live in, a vote for Obama is essentially meaningless. McCain is certain to carry the state and Obama is not even campaigning here. A vote for Nader has significance with respect to the recognition of third parties and their eligibility for federal funding during the next election cycle.  The threshold required to achieve eligibility for federal funding is 5% of the popular vote, I believe.

Until we radically alter the current environment dominated by the two-party system, ideological gridlock will persist.  Only when an environment that compels politicians to build consensus is established will our votes and popular constituent concerns again assume a mantle of vitality within the political sphere.

Wasn’t it Einstein who said, “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity”?  Are we to believe that we can continue in the present environment and expect anything other than continued exploitation by special interests and a succession of increasingly desperate crisis?

Looks like Chris Hedges didn’t get the memo of the Democratic party’s #1 talking point-

Any criticism of Obama=supporting McCain.

I’d be willing to bet any Democrat out there that if Obama wins, four years from now the US will-

1.Still have troops occupying Iraq (it might be less troops, but we’ll still have a sizable presence to keep our Iraqi puppets in power).

2.More US troops and an escalation to the war in Afghanistan. No questioning of the absurd “war on terror”. After all Afghanistan is the “real front line in the war on terror”, right?

3.No significant health care reform (in fact single payer will never even be on the table).

4. The US drug war will continue without any discussion.

5. US “defense” spending will be higher than any previous year, including the Bush years.

6. Our policy towards Israel will continue without a hitch (after all Obama and Biden love Israel too!) and they will receive more money to build their walls and bully their neighbors.

7. The same neo liberal economic policy’s that just gave us this fucked up Wall street bailout.

Now that’s some change I can believe in......

But of course many will believe that by stating the above I’m secretly trying to get McCain elected at worst and at best a childish idealist.

Of course that’s even assuming Obama can even win the election. Democratic pragmatism has worked so well in the last 2 elections right?

All of you will get what you deserve either way-another Democratic defeat or a kinder gentler American Empire.

there was no need to go into Iraq at all; Saddam had offered to leave thru Swiss agency; the whole reason for the USA to go into Iraq was to establish another greedy enslavement of people: to harm the people & planet for THEIR own greed; same is going on in Mexico: Clinton went down after Bush Sr failed to bribe the Pres of THAT country: and Corps followed taking away their land & their water rights against the constitution; they are busy in Australia & here forcing farmers to put chips in cattle, sheep, etc and “failing” to reimburse them; they want mega farms & cloned animals; refusing orgainic & wanting chemicals they have given the water rights of the USA to the mega company who made Agent Orange; and because the people raised such a fuss over agent orange being used to clear wheat fields: they made genetic seeds complete with agent orange inside to HARM the people: *****to STAND UP to CANCER: you MUST REMOVE THE PROBLEMS causing it; and THAT is the chemicals which our Gov is bought & paid for by: remember when Bush went to Japan? the GREEN conference there? WHAT DID HE SAY? “we will let the businesses decide”; there it is; it is NOT a democracy at all; all political parties in the USA are in total agreement: whatever the Corps & Businesses want they get & the FDA is a SHELL company to DECEIVE the people into BELIEVING that the things are “safe”; they are to HARM YOU for the sister company the PHARMA: folks, there are all kinds of books written to back up everything I am saying. The infant death & toxins in formala & baby’s food is NOT from China! It is RED HERRINGS to get our voices MADE to be silenced! IT IS HERE IN THE USA! Why do you THINK S Koreans are STILL picketing cuz they do NOT want our BEEF imported? Remember the “downed” cows? THAT is what you are putting on YOUR table for YOUR family: along with other FULL of chemicals to HARM YOU to bring $ to THEM. EVERYTHING in the USA is DECEPTION, DECEIT, & LIES;

There is a major fact that is mistated here. After following the link for “The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999” It says that Gramm and Leach, 2 republicans intorduced it, in a republican majority house. That statement that Democrats introduced it unfortunately made me disregard everything stated in this article, except how cool Kucinich is. I am furious write now with that libel BS.

My idea for tax revolt sounds better all the time. I remember how I was assailed as a kook for it months ago.

The Gov of the USA has ALWAYS worked on the side of Corps & wealthy: to the peril of the people & the planet. They have actively & aggressively been waging warfare on their own citizens for quite some time now & have NEVER treated them well. Claiming “we are the free” when every other nation SEES us as slaves to Corps: WHY then STOP & take a deep breath & consider: WHY are they trying so hard for “world dominion”? Bribing the heads of countries of corrupt & polluted folks who are as greedy & corrupt as them OR waging “war” for whatever excuse they THINK they can “pass” onto the people of this country as a “good excuse” for? they replace with DICTATORSHIPS who are cruel to the people REPEATEDLY folks; do NOT listen to what THEY say to you; go to the HISTORY BOOKS: cuz they have been busy getting original internet archives & CHANGING THEM; they are busy “amending” changing, adding, & deleting laws, to EXCUSE what they do. They deliberately set this up; they keep saying “don’t look back"********100 years ago the Model T (just had it’s birthday) created to last 100 years: and ran on grain alcohol, NO pollution AT ALL: and got 26 MPG. #1 cause of global warming which they have known was car emmissions & have REPEATEDLY refused alternative greener fuels: since 1950’s; were you aware there is a device for under $100 to change existing cars to run on natural gas? That cost’s less & is far cleaner? AND there was NO DANGEROUS TO HUMANS formaldehyde used in ANY thing back then. THEY WANT $ ONLY: to HARM the people to take their $ to the Pharma company who works with them. Were you aware that Hillary blew $100m in 1 single month? Jan 08. Yet repeatedly they have deliberately harmed the people of this country over & over & over & over. Keeping all the Indians $ for themselves; keeping all the taxes for “aid” to other countries for themselves: giving them instead “cheese” or “frozen chicken legs”; they keep 2/3rds or more of all “aid” giving claiming overhaed expenses. ****they overbill electric & natural gas bills; IGNORE the peoples wishes re environmental issues. Yet they want to INFLICT this same MONSTROSITY they call “freedom” on everyone??????????

Man, I’ve always loved Kucinich and it’s sad that we can’t get him elected.

This article is important. I’m an Obama supporter, but increasingly skeptical. Obama & Biden are definitely big money whores.

Add Beau Biden to the mix and it gets scarier: He was the primary credit card industry lobbyist that provided direct access to Joe Biden, whose efforts ultimately led to the passage of the credit card industry’s anti-consumer bankruptcy legislation of 2004-2005. 

But, like everyone else posting here...what options do we have except to vote for Obama/Biden?

Kucinich, for the hell of it I may write him in, can we still do that?

Why don’t Dennis Kucinich and Ralph Nader hook up and then we can use the internet to get the word out. 

Let us get rid of the bums that voted for the bailout.

Should have given the money to the people who are loosing their homes for legitimate reasons (through the bankruptcy courts) and let the money flow up and keep the bastards afloat.

Let’s vote Kucinich and Nader or vice versa.

A trillion dollars isn’t even that much “lubrication” anymore....but it’ll sure grease the skids under the “middle class.” Maybe Dr. Knowitall’s “bright side” is just getting this all over with that much sooner.  Then there’s the fact the tormentors are having to force these issues a lot sooner than the nazification scheme called for.

When the dust settles the domesticated peoples should look around for those of us surviving free wild natural Human Beings....we’re everywhere....to get some native guidance on how to go on.  The “global” gangbangers are even now taking-in the stuff of their own undoing, and are already irrelevant to the Song ‘n’ Dance of Life Herownself.

So don’t panic, tame Two-legged Sisters and Brothers.  Tiyoshpaye is on The Way.

HokaHey!

Getting a bailout has not stopped wall street from going to hell. http://www.msnbc.msn.com What now?

I am surprised people are now so excited about Obama’s support of the bailout swindle.  It has been clear from his record from the beginning that he is a politician of the established order.  He would never have gotten as far as he has if he had espoused the sort of politics promoted by Kucinich or McKinney.  As a man of the establishment his job was to help put the latest con game across, and he knew it.

And while I am pleased that the people finally woke up a little bit and compelled Congress to resist the bailout for a few days, I think it is silly to regard it as any kind of watershed.  The bailout is part of something that has been going on for many years—a long train of swindles, thefts, and robberies.

Many of you think this can be changed by electing a different great leader to the presidency.  This is an illusion.  The country, the world, can’t be changed by monarchs, from the top down, because the monarchies themselves are swindles, based on the lie that people can’t take care of their own business.  The world can be changed only from the bottom up, by depriving the swindlers of consent and support.  It is long past time to pay attention to the little man behind the curtain.

New mantra for democrats: “What the hell do you want us to do, vote for McCain?”

I wrote to the Stephanie Miller radio show when she was all excited about Obama’s decision to run for President that Obama was hand-picked to end Social Security.  They reacted vehemently, “Read his book!” they yelled.  I was speaking from intuition, just to be a bomb-tosser.  Now, I think it just might be true.
They are asking us to bow down to their pagan god, the free market.  Just give us your sons and daughters and we’ll bring Democracy to the world. Just let us watch your every move and we’ll keep you safe.  Give us your investments and pensions and we’ll give you security.  We keep giving in and feeding the gluttonous god of Greed - Mr. Paggles - Pride, Anger, Greed, Gluttony, Lust, Envy, Sloth) who comes in a limousine, dresssed in the finest clothes.  However, if you listen closely and look in his eye, you can see the cocked assuredness in his ability to manipulate.
I, for one, am having none of it.  And there’ll be plenty of reminders of this betrayal in the years to come.  It’s not easy coming to terms with fact that you’ve been set back 70 years.  People I knew who lived through the depression said they never really got over it.  Its effects lasted with them, even when they got back to some degree of financial security.

Welcome america, welcome to the shock doctrine that we have laid out to so many countries just to steal their natural resources and money. Now, it is america’s turn and boy howdy is the money gonna disappear.
An amazing thing also, is that in November we have the chance(and that is all it is) to vote these traitors out of office but we WON’T!
Anyone have an idea of how long it will take to pay just this $850,000,000,000.00 bailout back to the Federal Reserve which is in business to profit from this type of stupidity? Second, how many bailouts will there be from now until 1.20.2009?

Dennis Kucinich and Ralph Nader have been trying to warn us for years. No one listened. President Carter tried to warn us and we voted him out of office. And now the chickens are coming home to roost.

It’s gonna get ugly out there, folks, and we have no one to blame but ourselves. I’ve already found a nice niche under a highway overpass where I can set up housekeeping. I just hope it’s close enough to a soup kitchen.

When the Dem leaders rushed to support Bush’s bailout swindle, the stock market went sharply down.  It is down two or three times as much this morning.  This is because the swindle doesn’t fix anything. Instead of giving money to people with bad morgages to keep their homes, as dissident economists analyzed, the Dems rushed to give money to the bankers who swindled in the first place.

The American people have to understand that the Dem-Gop faction is bought and paid for by the ruling class, a fraction of one percent of the population, and they support their policies under the guise of supporting those of the general population.

But people have been taught from childhood to identify with power rather than the people ruled by power.  Half the American population have been taught to vote for the Dems while the Dems are serving interests and values incompatible with theirs.  The Dem party is standing in the way of the population defending themselves.

Consequently, we have to de-educate and de-inform the population to support people rather than power.  People are afraid to do so because this means opposing the American power system.  But there is no historical alternative.  The American power system is running amok in the world and is now focusing its efforts on fleecing the American people.  It is dangerous, brutal and corrupt, and most be confronted.

@ Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD;
I hope we’re not a one country world.  What a tragic loss of diversity if that were true.  America may want that, but the world does not!
Surely the best education is the education that teaches critical thinking.  Education in the best classical Greek tradition.  Question; question everything and believe nothing!  Especially question authority; that after all is the thing we are taught to obey and is in fact the very last thing to acknowledge, much less obey.  We have been coerced into living a life of lies and euphemisms covering the reality of our actual behavior and justifying our beliefs and more importantly our actions.  Thus, we can kill 90 people in a fucked up impersonal drone attack on a village 10,000 fucking miles away and 60 of those 90 people were children.  I for one cannot bear this any longer.  I’m truly ashamed to say I’m an American. 
We are lost; our path has been obliterated but not destroyed.  It is only the persistent that will rediscover the way.  It means leaving behind those that cannot break with the past.  It means taking risk once again: The risk of rediscovering that which has been lost.  Courage, my friend, courage.  At 64, this is almost, but not, too exciting.  There is no place of rest; life is always striving until the last breath…………….

Having listened to the endless bloviating out of Washington in the last two weeks, I would say the Dennis Kucinich was one of the few who sounded knowledgable and trustworthy.

to those who say they will be voting for obama, and once he is in office ‘will hold his feet to the fire,’ ‘will see if he lives up to his promises:’ just how in the world do you expect him to live up to his promises, with a 13 billion dollar deficit and nothing left in the treasury???

Now the republican party has become the party of the people at least on the congressional level, and democrats are the party of corporate America.  This is not the first time in American political history that such a dramatic shift has taken place.  McCain is oblivious to the change - it happened too quickly and he is stuck in the old way of thinking.  If he had voted against the bailout, the polls would be reverse of what they are today.  Now he is playing it all wrong by getting involved in negative advertising which will only convince more people to vote for Obama.

If you voted for Obama during the primaries and are now in danger of losing your retirement funds, you will get exactly what you’ve asked for. Please do not cry. You are too late.

It’s worse than I thought.  After reading the list of votes that Obama cast, I fear that it’s over.  Mr. Hedges, I wish I could attribute this negativity to your Episcopalian, intellectual pessimism, but I started to notice the inconsistencies with Obama’s voting pattern and his stump message.  This evidence leaves no room for excuses.  Obama, Biden and whole crew can go to hell.  My sister-in-law campaigns for this charlatan in Chicago.  I have to send her this link in hopes that she at least sees the light before she gets betrayed by this, this lawn jockey.
I am going to vote for a third party candidate.

PS Anyone interested in where this is all going economically, check out Moneyasdebt.net.  It’s a real eye-opener.  One quote is from David Rockefeller who, by the way, supports Obama.

Dennis is absolutely correct. It is tragic that the Democratic party did not demand, nor did it receive, any form of strong effective leadership. Pelosi and Reid proved that they are well tied to the corruption and exploitation by big business and government to usurp the peoples power and rights.

What safety nets that were constructed as Civil Defense and disaster recovery are dismantled. Social programs to help the most needy are diminished and being gutted daily by wealthy individuals who would rather have citizens die in the streets homeless and with no health care.

The plight of our country is a downward spiral into hell. Warmongers and robber barons rule and their only thoughts are stealing the treasury until it is empty.

I’m old and do not have many years left but I really feel sorry for our younger folks they have struggles to face that will beat them down and destroy them.

IMHO the Military/Industrial/Political triad is fascist and destructive to America.

People First!
VOTE as if your life depends on it!
It probably does!

Face the facts....it is a one party system.
Here is how it works:
Obama has been such a disappointment that voting for him starts to seem a study in futility, then Mccain acts on his lowest nature and temporarily I go back to considering Obama because McCain is such a dirty operator. McCain gives me the creeps, but maybe it would be better to have him bring the whole house down faster, rather than the slow drip of rationed out torture that slowly turns up the heat and causes a long slide down as the Obama version.
Pick your poison.

Soon the market will be around 6,000...and although the Dem’s in congress were trying to save the market, Paulson’s bailout plan will not work..

It’s no good trying to pin this on the Democrat’s, because the Republican party was willing to let the economy fail rather than do anything for American workers.

When the dust clears, it will be the end of politics as we know it, and the end of immunity for the wealthy in this country.

Fehrenheit451:

Thanks to the web and travel at 700 mph, I guess there’s basically one country in the world now.

I’ve taught kids of all ages all my life in public schools, in the arts.  So I think about the role of our schools in all this.  Often vulnerable kids, like like I was, have religion shoved down their throats, and in some cases, to the extent that they wouldn’t even question rape by a clergyman. 

Our government is somewhat the same, I think.  You get the red, white, and blue and the story of the venerable founding fathers shoved down your throats for so long that you think your leaders are flawless and blameless until you’re old enough to understand or until you’ve been raped by them enough.

Now, we have “sex ed” where kids are taught strategies to help them avoid assault by dangerous adults. 

When, do you think it will happen that public schools will do what they should do and teach kids from the earliest ages how governments become corrupt, how they might methodically and systematically dismantle rights and the constitution and steal your hard-earned money from you--in short, how your government can rape you if you don’t know any better, or, if you do, it’s not only OK to revolt, but it is your duty to do so?  Now, I think parents might object to the potential for politicizing this kind of learning.  But I do think we need to develop a curriculum in this area, for our surviival. 

I see an irony here:  our history is one of revolt against oppression and taxation without representation.  Do you think we instill in kids that notion that, if our forefathers worked so hard to gain what they gained, then what they got for us must be above reproach and question? 

“I pledge allegiance to the flag...”?????

Everyday.

Instead, for example:

“I pledge to be a good citizen of my country and to always be a vigilant and tireless worker for the protection and preservation of our constitution, the beacon of freedom and hope for all.” This makes more sense to me.

I was a Kucinich Prim Voter when the Clintons rigged the MI Primary. but have not only thrown my support behind Obama (which Obama failed to do in return for Dennis during the Prim Debackle), I have been a volunteer for His Campaign since June.Granted I have NOT loved everything Sen Obama has done, but this one Shook Me.
Why is it Sen Obama did NOT take this Moment to Unveil His “bottoms Up’ Economic Stratedgy. Why did he Cave into ‘Trickle Down’ Grand Theft? If the ‘Shock Doctrine’ Holds true, was this not the PERFECT opportunity to Roll Out his Economic Plan? Why did He not Demand any Loan monies Go directly to the Homeowners, who would pay their Mortgages, Credit cards, car payments...All the shit the Banks Needed to avoid a collapse. Instead Sen Obama appeased the ‘Shit Rolls Down Hill’ Organized Crime Syndicate!!!
I will still vote for Sen Obama,but my volunteerism may be less often.Sen Obama may find he Created his Own Monster when he takes Office though..We ‘Grass Rooters’ will be on his Ass in Force and far better organized thanks to His Presidnetial Ground Game!
One thing Going for Obama over McCain..Obama has a table and Chairs available for those Wishing to participate....while Mac only offers a gun to your head!
If Sen Obama wants the True Democratic Base support he’d better start talking about the Subpeonas going out and Arrest that will be made following His Oath of office last syllable.
‘Impeachment’ is NOT enough, Prosecution for High Crimes is Required!

Well, with editorial comments like Hedges just wrote, perhaps he should be out campaigning for McSame. I realize Kucinich has been trying to get his voice heard throughout America for years, but now is not the time for him to be disparaging the man who might save us from one more disastrous administration. McSame will only excerbate the problems.  I’m willing to give Obama at least four years to prove to me that he can bring change.  I KNOW McSame won’t do better.  He’s so old, he could die in office and then we’ve got Palin as the prez!  One disaster piling on top of disaster.  Give me Joe Biden over Sarah Palin any day.  I will vote for anyone who stands between Palin, McSame, and the White House. 

Am I going to support a person who cuts me with a knife in order to sell me a bandage?  I think not.  McSame is just such a person, as are all the Republicans.  The Repubs wanted all that pork attached to the bailout before they would support it...and the Dems caved.  But remember that Bush wanted the bailout approved as quickly as the Iraq fiasco...and I associate McSame with Bush...nuff said.

In a related story....
Orders for Mega Yachts and Luxury automobiles are soaring....

Face facts. The US has a two party system. Regardless of who may be “right” about the issues, if they are affiliated with a fringe party they are castrated before they get anywhere near the white house bed chamber.

It inevitably boils down to the choice of the lesser of two evils.

Obama would never have been able to get this far if he hadn’t compromised. Let’s hope that once he secures the office he will follow through on his promises. I think we all know McCain/Palin wouldn’t.

Unfortunately, for the electorate, the American people, the corporate welfare scam passed and the people got screwed again.
Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, had and has great plans for the America that was and still is. But will never be, for he is not a corporate sell-out and does not believe in corporate welfare. His plan for corporate welfare, was to tax the b^^^^@@#%’s that took the jobs out of America and then see if they would have brought them back. Corporate giants like Sprawl-Mart and all of the rest of the big-box stores, which pay nothing and make profit their highest motive, should pay much more in taxes and health care benefits.
Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, along with Rep. Ron Paul and a handful of ethical and moral representatives in the House, voted against this boondoggle of a bill. For reasons unknown to the American people, the Congress caved into the corporate media scam of an economic meltdown, and bailed out the executives of the very same companies that caused this mess.
If it was up to me, everyone who voted for the bill to give the keys to the Treasury to the corporate thieves, would be sent packing and a group of people with ethical standards elected into the House and Senate. Along with the Presidency, which should go to a third party candidate, we would have one of the finest governments in the world. But sadly, the only choices we have at this time are the lesser of two weasels;(quoting Scott Adams).
I was certain that Sen. Barack Obama, was a man of the people, but his true colors have shown forth and he is as much a pawn of the corporate world and money as John McCain, the only difference between the two is the fact that Barack Obama, is younger and healthier.
This is a truly shameful situation that the American public is in, on one hand you have the corporate shill, John McCain, along with the dumbest bunny on the planet, Sarah Palin, on the other, you have the corporate shill, and his sidekick, who has consistently voted for corporate welfare Barack Obama.  This country is going to hell in a handbasket and sliding very fast in the process.
There are very few voices for the people, even in the people’s house. It is time for a people’s revolution, no more of the corporate welfare games and no more of the lobbyist money being tossed around like candy at Halloween. If America is to survive, then, we the people must take back the reins of power and control of the government and put a stop to the nonsense of playing a waiting game, to see if the candidate we chose will be for or against the corporate welfare scheme.

@ Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD;

I’d sure be curious as to why you see light at the end of the asshole, er, I mean tunnel?  Care to share?  This isn’t a sudden decision; we’ve been planning it for a long time.  The simple reality is this; quality of life is most important and health care is very much a part of that.  The simple fact is; we cannot afford to live in our own country.  A sad truth that is becoming a reality for many and the many don’t have any options.  Fortunately we do and must go.  Thanks and you ain’t gettin rid of me, I’m just moving.

Right on! Great and very sad (for US) piece. Thanks Chris.

I had a call from “The Obama Team” this weekend asking for whom was I voting. I responded “Nader.” I was cussed (with a muttered voice) at and hung up on. I wonder how may people are realizing that Obama is, as Chris so well points out, just another f’n corporate sell out.

kath,

The biggest reason we don’t support men like Kucinich is simple, we americans will not vote for an ugly little man. We are so shallow that we will accept a bubble headed brunette with an IQ of 68(and toting a gun and a bible, of course)We americans still think of ourselves as tall, blonde, cowboys with steely blue eyes and an “I don’t give a shit” attitude. We vote for people who best personify our image(or at least the image we still hold onto)

The truth is that we should still vote for Kucinch, because the reality now is that we are no longer that tall, strapping, cowboy. We have become an angry little middle aged man. We are balding, have a beer belly, and a touch of hypertension. We sit in our barcolounger, beer in hand, surfing the tube for some soft core porn, or wrestling, or NASCAR. Change scares us more than our slow urination. We still think we’ve got it!

We will be unable and unwilling to elect a Dennis Kucinich until we are able to take a look at ourselves in the mirror and stop seeing what we want to see, and start noticing what we are.

The left has been dead since the 1968 democratic convention. Hopefully, it will rise from the ashes our pending economic and social meltdown.
Hpoefully, it won’t be too late.

Fahrenheit451:

Whoa, hold on there!  It’s your patriotic duty to stay on here and help make America, once again, a Beacon Of Hope for the oppressed of the world. 

The greedy are now sucking away at the last tit on the American pig (they actually thought the pig had run out of tits until Bush and Paulsen found another one, way back by the asshole) and when that one’s dry, that’ll be it.  The pig’s a little fed up, too.  I mean, how long can you take the sucking? 

There is hope.  I encourage you to hang by.  Brighter days are ahead, no kidding.

“Obama’s support for the bailout, however, is his most egregious betrayal.” How true and how so very sad.
The question was answered long ago when his ties to Lieberman and wall street was opted by jornalist during the primary elections...no one was listening, no one cared. It was the feel good movement of a Black having the right and time to become president, fit or not did not matter.
So here we are: McCain a Bush clone or Obamajournalist a repug in dimmo clothing.
The questions boils down to who you want to appoint the next supreme court justices...no matter it won’t be for our good either way.

Thankfully for Obama, McCain demonstrated just as little regard for the American people.

I understand Obama’s desire to compromise in order to save the election, and it is certainly better than opening the door to a McCain victory. But when Obama wins, he needs to govern in the direction of his own instincts, not those handed to him by corporate America. And I for one will hold his feet to the flames every day that he is in office.

Hedges has the luxury to vent from a place of safety; he has nothing at stake in writing such an article… at least nothing comparable to Obama. Likewise Kucinich, whom I supported for President, also has little to lose in his attacks on the bailout. He is 100% right in his analysis, but his correctness will make little difference if John McCain becomes our next President. And that cannot be allowed to happen.

@ kath cantarella;

Well, all you need to do to understand is to look at the popularity of Palin.  We Americans aren’t the brightest bulbs on the shelf; and we have set the bar far to low.  Frankly, I’ve given up and will bail out ASAP.  Everything is set except the destination.