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Invasion of the Sea-Smurfs

Posted on Oct 1, 2008

By Amy Goodman

  A little-noticed story surfaced a couple of weeks ago in the Army Times newspaper about the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team. “Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months,”  reported Army Times staff writer Gina Cavallaro, “the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.” Disturbingly, she writes that “they may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control” as well.

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  The force will be called the chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive Consequence Management Response Force. Its acronym, CCMRF, is pronounced “sea-smurf.” These “sea-smurfs,” Cavallaro reports, have “spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle,” in a combat zone, and now will spend their 20-month “dwell time”—time troops are required to spend to “reset and regenerate after a deployment”—armed and ready to hit the U.S. streets.

  The Army Times piece includes a correction stating that the forces would not use nonlethal weaponry domestically. I called Air Force Lt. Col. Jamie Goodpaster, a public-affairs officer for Northern Command. She told me that the overall mission was humanitarian, to save lives and help communities recover from catastrophic events.  Nevertheless, the military forces would have weapons on-site, “containerized,” she said—that is, stored in containers—including both lethal and so-called nonlethal weapons.  They would have mostly wheeled vehicles, but would also, she said, have access to tanks. She said that any decision to use weapons would be made at a higher level, perhaps at the secretary-of-defense level.

  Talk of trouble on U.S. streets is omnipresent now, with the juxtaposition of Wall Street and Main Street. The financial crisis we face remains obscure to most people; titans of business and government officials assure us that the financial system is “on the brink,” that a massive bailout is necessary, immediately, to prevent a disaster. Conservative and progressive members of Congress, at the insistence of constituents, blocked the initial plan. If the economy does collapse, if people can’t go down to the bank to withdraw their savings, or get cash from an ATM, there may be serious “civil unrest,” and the “sea-smurfs” may be called upon sooner than we imagine to assist with “crowd control.”

  The political and financial establishments seem completely galled that people would actually oppose their massive bailout, which rewards financiers for gambling. Normal people worry about paying their bills, buying groceries and gas, and paying rent or a mortgage in increasingly uncertain times. No one ever offers to bail them out. Wall Street’s house of cards has collapsed, and the rich bankers are getting little sympathy from working people.


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  That’s where the sea-smurfs come in. Officially formed to respond to major disasters, like a nuclear or biological attack, this combat brigade falls under the U.S. Northern Command, a military structure formed on Oct, 1, 2002, to “provide command and control of Department of Defense homeland defense efforts.” Military participation in domestic operations was originally outlawed with the Posse Comitatus Act in 1878. The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, however, included a section that allowed the president to deploy the armed forces to “restore public order” or to suppress “any insurrection.” While a later bill repealed this, President Bush attached a signing statement that he did not feel bound by the repeal.

  We are in a time of increasing economic disparity, with the largest gap between rich and poor of any wealthy industrialized country. We are witnessing a crackdown on dissent, most recently with $100 million spent on “security” at the Democratic and Republican national conventions. The massive paramilitary police forces deployed at the RNC in St. Paul, Minn., were complete overkill, discouraging protests and conducting mass arrests (National Guard troops just back from Fallujah were there). The arrest there of almost 50 journalists (myself included) showed a clear escalation in attempting to control the message (akin to the ban on photos of flag-draped coffins of soldiers). There are two ongoing, unpopular wars that are costing lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. Nobel-winning economist Joe Stiglitz estimates that Iraq alone will cost more than $3 trillion.

  In December 2001, in the midst of restricted access to bank accounts due to a financial crisis, respectable, middle-class Argentines rose up, took to the streets, smashed bank windows and ultimately forced the government out of power, despite a massive police crackdown and a failed attempt to control the media. Here in the U.S., with the prospect of a complete failure of our financial system, the people have spoken and do not want an unprecedented act of corporate welfare. We don’t know how close the system is to collapse, nor do we know how close the people are to taking to the streets. The creation of an active-duty military force, the sea-smurfs, that could be used to suppress public protest here at home is a very bad sign.
  Denis Moynihan contributed to this column.

  Amy Goodman is the host of “Democracy Now!” a daily international TV/radio news hour airing on more than 700 stations in North America.

  © 2008 Amy Goodman

  Distributed by King Features Syndicate

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By Dean Holden, October 8, 2008 at 12:40 am Link to this comment
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The Police Departments across our country are experiencing an enormous upswing in propaganda directed at we the people. Law Enforcement see “us”, the citizen, as the enemy. The Street Cops didn’t come up with this on their own. They reject it at first but they are told we are the enemy constantly.

Using the principles of Asch, and more specifically an experiment of Stanley Milgram we can deduct what happens next.

The military will be used to support this endeavor if possible. There is highly likely chance the American Population will see American Troops on the ground at home. IN ACTION. AGAINST US.

Maybe we are referred to as “Communists”, terrorists?, liberals?,...but whatever. I don’t know what the briefings entail to that detail. But one term, we the people, will not be called are “concerned citizens.”

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
Upton Sinclair *

Talk to the police now!
Cops don’t want to fight Americans. The Police want to be heroes! But they are stuck with a conflict of interests. Plus most unfortunately, are indeed, assholes.

Talk to the soldiers now!
They are just about ready to revolt.
Try to lead these guys. They follow orders. And they are not nearly as likely to be assholes. They haven’t become cops yet!~

Check out ‘Sir No Sir’.

It is showing on Link TV right now.


Vets from Vietnam have the skill set to oppose an unjust war. Ask one how!

We need to be getting the soldiers to protest with us here in our streets. They will follow our lead.

Dean Holden
Concerned Citizen
And proudly opposed to the Project for a New American Century!

[*might want to revisit ‘King Coal’ (1917) or ‘Oil!’ (1927)] Weird.

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By Paul_GA, October 6, 2008 at 8:46 am Link to this comment

I saw it, Fish, and I must agree it’s entirely plausible. It could even be argued that Bush could still pull off this “suitcase-nuke” scenario after the election—if he’s got the chutzpah.

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By TheRealFish, October 5, 2008 at 9:18 pm Link to this comment

This post is way late, and I’m sure few will see it. However… .

Here’s a scenario for you:

Imagine that sometime in this next few weeks there is a BREAKING NEWS announcement on our dear MSM that DHS issued a statement that they have credible evidence that there is a suitcase nuke free within the confines of our borders. Of course, due to the sensitivity of their intel, they can not divulge any details.

As a result of this imminent threat to one of our major cities, the president is declaring martial law, suspending the elections (there’s your “October Surprise” for you) and suspending the Constitution until this situation is resolved.

Anyone objecting to this state of martial law will find themselves renditioned into some black hole in the middle of the night.

Elections gone, the current POTUS remains in charge beyond the end of his term and, since Congress and the judicial systems are disbanded there is nothing we can do to prevent this permanent status of this president—and no more checks on his power.

Under everything from the Patriot Act through PDD 51 (assuring continuity of government in crisis, but give only the president the power to declare martial law, not Congress as the Constitution mandates, this scenario is completely plausible.

Combine *that* with the fact the military force to enforce this coup is now on active duty, and that Bush the Lesser has used terror threats to influence every election since 9/11, I would say this plausibility even approaches probability now.

We can only pray we make it to the polls and get the votes tallied before this happens. We may have weeks left for the continuance of our way of life as it has existed for 232 years folks.

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By Folktruther, October 5, 2008 at 5:58 am Link to this comment

Yellowbird, you have lots of good things to say.  If you wrote a few sentences than skipped a line, putting coherent thoughts into paragrphs, people would be able to read them easier and respond to them.

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By Scott, October 4, 2008 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment

Outraged wrote;
Think about it… are these soldiers willing to fight for Wall Street against Main St…?

Forward, the Light Brigade!
Was there a man dismay’d?
Not tho’ the soldier knew
Some one had blunder’d:
Their’s not to make reply,
Their’s not to reason why,
Their’s but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred

That only a relative few soldiers have reasoned why about the blunder that rode them into Iraq is disquieting.

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By yellowbird2525, October 3, 2008 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment

the USA is notorious for LYING & NOT doing what it says it will do: and 99 percent out of 100 the mercenaries are the ones who kill the ones who hired them: esp in Governments: like those who deliberately poison & kill & harm babies etc like THIS Gov does! (google death rates in USA); then look at the VETS: and what they FAILED to do; to the Indians; and yet again: what promises they FAILED to keep; sorry that LINE “we are broke” ain’t gonna cut the mustard son: figures just DO NOT add up; sad to say the Corps were using the “aid” to countries paid tirelessly one right after the other to MAKE 3rd world countries: while being given “cheese” or “frozen” chicken legs; oh, and of course: the Gov kept 2/3s or more for themselves of all “aid” money given: quoting “overhead expenses”; gathered MORE $ by overbilling your gas, your electric, etc; amazing how 100 years ago the Model T made 26 MPG yet the USA never been ever able to even duplicate it huh; & it ran on GRAIN ALCOHOL; prohibition was never about “sobriety”; but to force folks to have to PAY for oil; while squashing all efforts at greener alternatives;;,; ****be very aware your food is being radiated: and cloned meat & milk along with genetic seed laced with pesticide & agent orange are in your grocery store; make friends with local farmers & join with them to share/crop/share/farm; get organic; or just be very alert & aware;; & many others.

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By Paul_GA, October 3, 2008 at 7:10 pm Link to this comment

Glad you liked it, Fahrenheit; thank’ee kindly.

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 3, 2008 at 5:11 pm Link to this comment

@ Paul_GA;

Interesting link, and I’d have to agree with its premise.

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By Mike Varady, October 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment
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I’ve often wondered if the reason we haven’t had a popular uprising, such as those in Latin America or in the Middle East—well, come to think of it,just about anywhere that doesn’t speak English as its first language—is either because we’re too civilized, or because we’re a nation of sheep.

The much-maligned Ralph Nader, who did this nation a tremendous amount of good before getting blamed on the Gore loss (much of which was Gore’s own fault, but that’s another comment-to-be-made) pointed out that the people who bitch about nothing getting done that they want done(not a verbatim) quote)are the only ones who’re keeping themselves from going to town-hall meetings, city council meetings, etc.

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By Paul_GA, October 3, 2008 at 10:03 am Link to this comment

Here’s something which came in my e-mail today; hope it helps:

It’s about life-lessons from the famous movie, THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION.

A quote from the final paragraph: “Rather than looking to political leaders to protect or expand our freedom we should cultivate the seeds of freedom in our own spirits, and inspire others to do the same. Nothing government can do can take away our freedom; and if we are a people who are truly free, the government will have to follow.”

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 3, 2008 at 9:34 am Link to this comment


Correction:  The “majority” has lost it’s will for freedom.  Those of us who haven’t are greatly outnumbered.  I’ve nothing to prove as I’ve been in the street.  I do, not just talk.  Pity the masses.  They don’t even know what it is to live.

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 3, 2008 at 9:23 am Link to this comment

@ Folktruther and Paul_GA;

If you look at my first post; my point is exactly about a popular uprising.  I was addressing Driving bears contention that we could fight an armed resistance which I think is long past possible.

As to a public uprising; that is the whole point of Amy Goodman’s article:  Our lovely Jackboot government is massing to stop the very demonstrations we have been loath to engage in lo these many years.  Use it or lose it!  And our citizens have for the most part chosen not to use their right of free assembly.  The GOP convention is ample evidence of our loss of the right to free assembly.  Pre-emptive raids, jailing legitimate press, and general violation of civil rights. 

Yes, by all means demonstrate and rally against the machine; but, there will be blood to get our rights back!  IMHO we have lost the will to freedom!

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By Susan J, October 3, 2008 at 8:52 am Link to this comment

The neo-cons and their minions have been preparing for a take-over of massive proportions for a long time. They already have our freedoms, our privacy, and now our money. AND they have Blackwater already trained to take control of the country at the first available opportunity.

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By leilah, October 3, 2008 at 8:51 am Link to this comment

If you think the US Army cannot be defeated, look at Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Take Afghansistan for starters.  As Robert Fisk described, they won the war in Afghanistan and invaded Iraq.  They won the war in Iraq, or so they say, so they have to re-invade Afghanistan.  Now that the Sunnis have been re-armed, who knows if they will not restart the open fighting in Iraq.  Now you add Pakistan to the mix and no one can say with certainty what’ll happen.
Also, the US Army’s tactics are technological accompanied with brutality.  Some of those veterans are state side now and do not abide with what the Government is doing. 
And the rules of insurrection are that you cannot defeat an insurrection against a population unless to negotiate or annihilate.

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By Folktruther, October 3, 2008 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

You are right, Fahrenheit, that the last defense of the American power stucture are paid mercenary killers.  But this is always the case.  They are no match for an aroused population.

And this irrespective of the weapons technology.  The question at the time is not how advanced the weapons are, but which way they are pointed.

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By leilah, October 3, 2008 at 7:50 am Link to this comment

Don’t forget 1/2 of this $ 700 bn is going to the Saudi royal family and the Chinese.  The Saudis are Bush’s friend, the Chinese lent us the money to destroy Iraq.  I can’t believe they bought those securities not knowing they would fail and not knowing that Bush would reimburse them.
I believe in apeaceful solution—Vote for third party candidates.

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By Paul_GA, October 3, 2008 at 5:31 am Link to this comment

Fahrenheit 451, this may not be Russia and this may not be France, but that doesn’t mean resistance can’t arise in America, too, or that history will not take a similar course. This is an empire in decline, not a republic any more. All empires eventually fall, some messier than others; the Elites who run them, and who have the most to lose, are always the last to realize that the empire is in decline-and-fall mode.

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 3, 2008 at 3:15 am Link to this comment

Sorry, make that 18th and early 20th century.  And the Emperors “Sardikar” guards (killers) hardly care about this countries citizens.

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 3, 2008 at 3:10 am Link to this comment

@ Folktruther;

Your sarcasm not withstanding; this isn’t France and this isn’t Russia and further; it isn’t the 18th or 19th century. 
One would hope you are right (correct), however, our government increasingly turns internal security matters over to mercenaries (contractors).  I hardly think they have any sense of patriotism or loyalty; by definition they are paid killers.

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By oldhip, October 3, 2008 at 2:35 am Link to this comment

First there was the successful consolidation of this nation’s media down to just five controlling corporations.

And those corporations all sharing a significant number of their boards of directors with the extractive energy, pharmaceutical/HMO, ag-chem, military-industrial, and other corporations.  [excellent source link here.]

Then - The the legalization of “Free-Speech-Zones,” effectively eliminating free-speech in America.

Then - The elimination of habeas corpus.  [a good explanatory link.]

And now - The effective elimination of Posse Comitatus Act.  [explanatory link here.]

Plus - The ‘bailout’ of the sociopathic sneering profiteers, with $700-billion to over $1-trillion of ‘our’ money, which the Senate just passed - You did you notice that - right?

And during all of that - The successful transfer of this nation’s entire wealth, (and the control of that wealth,) into the hands of the-very-few.  [good get-ya-started link here.]

Yet - Even with all of the exposed, and verified, proof - No revolt -

Says a lot about our nation - Doesn’t it?

But - As this article clearly shows, they are preparing for it anyway.
[‘it’ being the citizenry actually getting angry enough to finally get a backbone.]

Go Ahead - Don’t Revolt. . .
Just Keep “Allowing” - Keep Denying The Realities - It’s Not Like
It’s Actually Getting Worse - Much Worse - Blatantly And Faster.

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By Folktruther, October 2, 2008 at 6:52 pm Link to this comment

As Big B says, Fahanheit, the Russian revolution, and the French and others besides, occurred when the troops refused to fire on the people, and often turned and fired on their own officers.  the people were not vigilantes, but participated in political demonstrations.

Unfortunately, the American people don’t know this because of the deceit and delusion of American history, which causes what Gore Vidal called the United States of Amnesia.

The events are described in Trotsky’s history of the Russian Revolution, one of the great books of the 20th century.  With your immense knowledge of history I’m sure you have already read it, in which case these incidents have been depicted in the movie “Reds”, a loose dramitization of Reed’s ‘Ten Days that Shook the World.”

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By Bboy57, October 2, 2008 at 1:38 pm Link to this comment

I do not “feel bound” by our upper classs’ attempt at censoring public outrage and patriotic civilian duty to , dare I say, treason of those elected to serve everyday people and not only the rich which trickles down to us.

Our demoecracy HAS to work both ways. This donation can NOT stand. Will NOT stand without any repercussions. I will not be bound by leaders not being bound(.)

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By driving bear, October 2, 2008 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment

you prove my point. who does the civilian population consist of ? many people like you and I who are former military and or law enforcement and therefore have the needed skills to form and in needed train a fighting force. God forbid if it ever comes to armed conflict between the government and the civilian population you are right the first few battles would be like Kent State , but if the conflict continued the civilian population would most likely form resistance movements like the Polish home Army , the Jewish fighting organization ,and the French resistance in WWII. ,or the VC in the vietnam conflict.

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By Xntrk, October 2, 2008 at 11:18 am Link to this comment
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Even in the US, there is already a history of the military [including the National Guard] firing on demonstrators and citizens.

Labor history is full of examples, starting with Shayes Rebellion in the 1790s, thru the NYC Draft Riots in the Civil war, the Hay Market Riots, ad infinitum…

Adding to the mercenary aspects of our existing military, is the recruitment of criminals and racist skinheads [see FBI reports and Southern Poverty Law Center]. Any citizen contemplating participating in civil actions against the government would do well to be prepared.

Not that I am a believer in doing nothing, sometimes it is more important to stand up, then to live long. And speaking of living long, I am 71. Other posters here are in their 60s and 70s. Perhaps it should be our responsibility to be on the front lines.

Rather then sending out the kids to riot in the streets, Grannies against Graft, might be tougher to beat down. It’s our retirements and health care and grandkids they are intent on destroying.

Let’s say ‘No!’ and ‘Fuck You!’ to the Destroyers. Four letter words, judicially used by old ladies have a way of capturing the attention of some of these ‘sweet young things’!

Think about it…

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By Big B, October 2, 2008 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

The Russian revolution in 1917 would never have succeeded had the czars army not refused to fire on the citizenry and swithched sides in the middle of the conflict. Even the russian army was starving at that point. Hunger is an amazing motivator.

It seems we are just not hungry enough(yet).

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By Paul_GA, October 2, 2008 at 8:35 am Link to this comment

Well, all those who believe in “gun control” (i.e., unilateral personal disarmament), remember—a disarmed populace is always easier to dominate and control by soldiers or militarized police than an armed one.

If US troops are shooting Americans—practically their own flesh and blood—will it matter who is president at that time?

As Cromwell said, “Trust in God, but keep your powder dry.”

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 2, 2008 at 8:08 am Link to this comment

@ Folktruther;

Wouldst that be true.  Dream on.  History denies your words.

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By Folktruther, October 2, 2008 at 7:49 am Link to this comment

The final defense of a power structure, Fahrenheit, is when their soldiers shoot down their own population.  This violence is not a sign of strength but of political weakness, since it is only necessary when the legitimacy of power is fatally ruptured.

If the crowds get big enough to contain the families of the soldiers, they becoming incrreasingly unwilling to shoot.  They start to desert in droves and to protect themselves, join the other side.  At that point dual power exists, and what happens then is determined by the organization of the population.

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By civillianslave, October 2, 2008 at 7:33 am Link to this comment
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“We are advising all our clients to invest their money in tinned food and shotguns”

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 2, 2008 at 6:43 am Link to this comment

@ driving bear;

Oh yeah, I forgot; don’t forget Kent State; they will shoot!

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By Fahrenheit 451, October 2, 2008 at 6:40 am Link to this comment

@ driving bear;

You obviously have no idea of Amy Goodman’s history.  Do your own research; she needs to apologize to no one.  As one who has been a “shooter” and “champion shooter” (combat and long range pistol/rifle); no armed vigilante group is going to win against the militarized police of this country.  This is when romantics die against reality!  We are not Afghans!  The only solution is to kick ass against our elected “representatives”.  For them it should be serve or go to hell!  And, then, get a new representative; elected of course!  It’s too late for any other options!

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By Jim Yell, October 2, 2008 at 6:00 am Link to this comment
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Our ancestors, at lest my ancestors were living in the formative years to our nations birth and the evolving into a democracy, moderated by a Bill of Rights. As the full implications of our constitution and Bill of Rights became obvious the country began to include all its citizens, even women in political responsibility.

Millions died to fight dictatorship and militarism in WWII, how is it that we seem so passive into 8 years of unremitting attacks on our form of government by a supposed elected national government that continues to pass laws guaranteed to destroy democracy and civil liberties.

Everyone except the ultra rich lose in a dictatorship and eventually one might even observe that most of the rich lose in the end. How can a President and Vice-President leave office without being impeached, when they have repeatedly subverted the government to their own desires of greed, arrogance and lawlessness. And, the military that our ancestors always suspected would be the weak link in the chain of maintaining Democracy may now be actively employed in the crime. Where is the outrage.

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By lodipete, October 2, 2008 at 5:56 am Link to this comment

“Think about it… are these soldiers willing to fight for Wall Street against Main St…?”

  You bet they will. This is a well paid mercenary army and they’re all volunteers. How many aliens have been promised citizenship for military service?

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By yellowbird2525, October 2, 2008 at 2:49 am Link to this comment

there are some people in this nation that will no longer tolerate certain things this Gov does. Harming veterans is one of them. THIS is the reason the Gov sent the contract of the airplanes to France & Boeing picketed in anger. civil war would have started then & there if they had. rice runs to other countries to tell them “no Gov should abuse it’s citizens”; yet the USA has harmed it’s own citizens more than any other nation & everyone recognizes it except it’s own people. ****trying to raise the pubic’s consciousness & awareness to the chemicals in infant’s formula & the deadly chemicals created to harm them & everyone else: the Gov runs news on China infant formula & blah blah blah. Always red herrings to misdirect the people. When we try to force folks awareness of infant’s deaths & baby mortality rates in USA high due to chemicals: they claim 12 year old didn’t get prenatal care; it is all lies. The USA has been #1 in infants deaths for years do to chemicals used: formaldehyde especially; folks mistakenly think that the FDA is there for someone besides the chemical companies & greedy Corps; they are not. They feed the children methamphetamines: and now on to statins that cause bigger medical problems for the greedy sister Corp Pharma & the people are deceived yet again. Doing so well they rush to Iraq not for oil folks: for SLAVES & their water & land rights; drilling for oil here won’t work cuz they have oodles of it there but with the same Gov & Corp set up they have huge long lines & pay thousands of times more than they ever have before and of course: they are taxed. And the people have NOTHING. They want land & water rights in every country; they will have huge mega farms, & control all food: and water; you will be like indentured servants: cattle. Properly poisoned to be controlled easily. THIS is their world vision:; Paul Bremer who set up the “gov” talks about going global dominion cuz they have gotten away with it for years in the USA. Oh, and using criminals to keep us in line. THIS is the “great” American plan.

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By yellowbird2525, October 2, 2008 at 12:01 am Link to this comment

they are giving free college education to all “illegals” but NOT to the veterans; nor do they give them medical treatment; and the ones who are unable to return to 3rd 4th or 5th tour of duty are called 5 & 6 times a day every single day demanding repayment of their sign up pay; because they did not “fulfill their contract”;****you come back from war; are already by your own Gov working with Corps (they are bought & paid for by them) who have determined they will NOT give work to you but to illegals; you get behind on payments due to lack of work; & get the annoying harrassing calls: which are illegal just like the interest rates & addl fees added are illegal & criminal & fraud; & it’s all OK by our Gov who is nothing but crooks & criminals; how can you be a “nation” of law when you fail to obey the laws of the USA, laws of Congress, & international laws? And bribe the heads of other countires to let you get the land & water rights there just like they did to Canada & Mexico (thats why there is civil war there now); the media censorhship is illegal: cuz it was what was done in Hitlers day; ********making a long story short, I was prepaired to go to Boeing who looking for military contracts bad mouthed the vets tremendously:it was like the frosting on the straw: THIS line you WILL NOT CROSS: and yes, I was prepared to die for what I believed in. If MY OWN COUNTRY is so lying, cheating, deceitful: I will oppose it (the Gov) & it’s lying cheating, stealing, robbing, poisoning & killing of infants, children, & on up the line. They have crossed the line: of decency, and there is NO honor to be found: in the reptillian mind that wants only money: and to hell with the people. May they be forced to eat it in hell morning noon & night.

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By Outraged, October 1, 2008 at 9:32 pm Link to this comment

Article quote: “Talk of trouble on U.S. streets is omnipresent now, with the juxtaposition of Wall Street and Main Street.”

The crooks on Wall Street and in our Government must be scared.  Makes a person wonder how much these soldiers actually KNOW about the situation.  I think we need a “pass the word” campaign amongst these soldiers.

Think about it… are these soldiers willing to fight for Wall Street against Main St…?

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By Folktruther, October 1, 2008 at 9:03 pm Link to this comment

The ultimate target of every military is its own population.  The Northern Command was set up previouly to be used against the American population.  This is the first combat brigade assigned to it.  It is part of the process of militarizing the police and lawless spying on the population.  The pre-emptive attack on journalists and the torture of protesters by the police.

Yellowbird, the wounded and mained are always discarded by every power system.  It is cheaper and more effective to have dead casualties by combat units than wounded ones, because the wounded require more personel to take care of them. 

This is why more soldiers do not surrender in combat.  The tendency for combat units is to shoot prisoners to avoid caring for them.  The civilian authorities have the same attitude toward their own wounded and disabled; they use up money that could be used in combat.  That is why McCain voted against Education benifits for vets.

Of course all this is much worse for racial minorities.

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By yellowbird2525, October 1, 2008 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment

I followed up on the disabled vets: I pleaded with them NOT to go; NO ONE should EVER go to war for this Government: not overseas or another country: only in the case of civil war. Because I have worked with the homeless: and wept. Because our current Gov, Pentagon & Corps working together: use our men/women as cannon fodder & toss away as rubbish. ANY person doing the strenuous & dangerous task of war: REQUIRES a time of peace, calm, serenity when they return. Our country “shows” the Gov of Oregon going to each person’s funeral who died: yet behind the “scenes” which is showed publically on Tv, & news media: they claim all military personnel have mental problems; & no Corps want to hire them; they deliberately with great fore thought & premeditation with malice in their hearts for the people of this nation: determined to go to war with Iraq: and to NOT give the vets what they had promised to them; including not fixing up the hospitals. The Pentagon parasites have ALWAYS brought huge salaries: and have an ongoing cook the books routine to launder $ back to themselves. They claim “billions” of equipment “lost” or stolen: in reality, it was on paperwork only, to “make” tax payers THINK that there “was” no $.

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By yellowbird2525, October 1, 2008 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment

They speak with forked tongues: my fathers side said; and this is true to this day: they brought over top Nazi’s after WW11 to study them: to find out how they did it, esp because so few of them when so many people could easily have overpowered them. They laughed saying they didn’t even need guns: they people were so trained to believe their Gov was good; & authority figures were good; that they went willingly into the ovens. STOP; and consider that. They also poisoned the people, cuz people who were poisoned were so much easier to handle; THIS is the way floride came to be in the water supply in the USA; It has been banned from most countries; only the USA persists in it.****now, the political parties & Pentagon in this country, are claiming that the men in the army during WW11 were as bad as the Nazi’s were: yet they did what they were ordered to do. THEY were set up as the “scapegoats”; and Hitler was a good ol boy doing good things when Churchhill wanting glory attacked Germany for no reason. They also claim that “Hitler” did so many good things he should be remembered for all the good he did. And the bad wasn’t really so bad after all. After all the SOLDIERS of the USA & allies folowing orders from the Pentagon were really the culprits & causes of it all. You might want to check on the Marine cases where the Gov of the USA tried to set up it’s own soldiers as “being bad”. Many of us contributed to it; & they were declared innocent. But NOT from the lack of your own Gov & Pentagon trying to depict the military of the USA as the “bad folks”; they ALWAYS project their failings onto others; claiming “charity” was harming the vets; claiming the VFW did to; little bits in News: yet the BIGGEST harming of the military personnel of the USA is the Pentagon & officials of Congress, & Govenors: runs from the Fed, to St, to county, to city. In Oregon, way to many military personnel are dead supposedly from “suicide”; the numbers are way to high.

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By driving bear, October 1, 2008 at 7:06 pm Link to this comment

I would like to see Ms. Goodman’s bank account(s). I think she might be on the payroll of the NRA by the tone of this piece. Our founding fathers foresaw this possible future and therefore added the 2nd amendment to the constitution. This is just more evidence that American citizens need to own firearms as a check on the power of the government.

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By yellowbird2525, October 1, 2008 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment

My father’s side was here when my mothers side arrived on the Mayflower. My father’s side is Indian: listen well to me: not 1 single treaty or agreement with ANY tribe was ever honored or kept by the American Gov. 1 tribe they claimed “lost” $100m; another they have yet to receive 1 cent of all the oil on their land; you are to stupid & dumb they said: to know what to do: so WE will hold it & give it out to you. NEVER DONE.; indians sue for oil royalties; you can check it out for yourselves; ******during WW11 the troops exposed to radiation in Japan were told by the US Gov that the exposure to the radiation never caused any problems; not the leukemia & cancers etc: nor to the decendents of the same; and they refused to give them treatment: indeed, they had said if they signed up & went to war that they & their decendents would be covered for medical; another lie. They claimed “you can’t prove it” was caused by the radiation. Finally in 2007 they admitted responsibilty; that radiation to nuclear bombs did cause medical problems; but they claimed no $ to give to them; nor to the the men returning from Iraq & Afghanistan; nor $ to the medical hospitals; even the barracks were full of mold, & mildew & rodents; there are some who were disabled in combat who have yet to receive 1 cent of disability pay. ******yet, they have given $, brand new cars/trucks/job preferences to illegals; no interest $3,000 dental work pay; and for the illegals they have given brand new low income rent apartment complexs; to the vets returning from Iraq they gave 13 beds: to be shared with women & children needing them.

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By Marc Schlee, October 1, 2008 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment
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Refuse to fire upon Americans.



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