Joe--maybe things have not changed that much for YOU! There are 2x as many people in poverty. 50 milion withotut health insur.--its down al ittle because more are on Medicaid--and it sucks. There are more houses in foreclosure than --anytime! Even the 1920s!

As for “Mission Accomplished"--it is. Big Oil got a contract the other day. I dont want to “compete in the world mkt”. I want to cooperate.I dont necessarily want the strongest (well, certianly most expensive!) military. As to extreme weather (got 2 trees out today--80 mph winds) how wil “clean coal” and offshore driling help that? Vote for Obama. Just stop pretending he is saying he’s giong to do things that he has obviosuly said he will not.

Crimes of the State Blog:

‘This guy seemed to make some sense, up until:

“Always remember to seek the truth.......Never forget that “facts are the enemy of TRUTH”.”

What?

That’s retarded. ...’

Maybe it’s sort of advanced philosophically.  Consider that there are infinitely many facts.  Most of the facts are susceptible to a variety of interpretations, depending on their context and other contingencies.  Their contexts in turn are each made up of infinitely many facts.

Now consider some people who want to make a case.  They go forth and collect facts.  When they find facts which accord with their case, they record them.  If the facts disagree with their case, they either discard them or reinterpret them by adjusting their contexts.  Eventually they construct their case and call it “the truth”.

But wait!  Another group has gone out and followed a similar procedure but with the purpose of making a different case.  Their case, no surprise, turns out to be very different from the first group’s case.

What can be done?  Well, in the case of a prosecutor and a defense attorney, the cases are presented to a judge and jury and procedures are performed in which one case or the other (or maybe neither) is adjudged to be the truth.

However, most of the time, there is no official judge and jury, no procedures, no rules of evidence.  The conflict is played out in front of an audience ad hoc.  In that situation (and even in the former one) the award of what I think is now called truthiness is likely to be given to the most powerful fact-gatherers, since, being more powerful, they will be able to gather, conceal or reinterpret the most facts.

If one is dissatisfied with this state of affairs—perhaps one believes in the Truth, a sort of higher, godlike vision of things, or maybe in one’s own truth, what one would believe if one came upon the facts for oneself instead of accepting a case made up by other people—then one might well say “the facts are the enemy of the truth.”

This guy seemed to make some sense, up until:

“Always remember to seek the truth.......Never forget that “facts are the enemy of TRUTH”.”

What?

That’s retarded.

“You never go full retard.” --Tropic Thunder

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/warcrimesconference

jack--Bugliosi is on the Real News Network right now, at a war crimes event in Mass..--just thought youd be interested. The sound keeps going out--but its lunchtime.

gerarlam--I agree, in part. I just wish they had directed it AT the govt (US). I just dont condone civilian deaths anywhere.

Why didnt they attack a military installation instead of a civilian building? That is what hurt people I know in NY.

I know the uS military, CIA, mercenaries, etc. , attack civilians with impunity. But, if you want to make a point, make it against the powers thst be. Not a bunch of civilians. Most US citizerns should do more to stop US agtressio in the world. (Most dont even think about the Americas) But, it is just not the best way to win people over.

Thirty five years ago an event much worse than that which occured at New York in 2001 happened in Chile. The government buildings were bombed, the president was assassinated, and a dictator took the reins of the governement.
This was followed by years of tyranny, torture, the assasination of thousands of people.
It a worst act of terrorism against a duly elected governement than 9/11/2001 and instead of punishing it, the US governement approved it.

Where is the logic?

Quite true, Folktruther—Dr. King was perceived as a danger to the System, which is why he had to go. Interesting—one wonders why Dr. Ron Paul hasn’t been victimized by an assassin yet. His Campaign for Liberty is a danger to the System, too. Apparently it’s not seen as one yet, or else the Powers-That-Be are underestimating the danger to themselves (one hopes it’s the latter; the hubris of the neocons is legendary).

At this point, there is little doubt that the official “Osama’s 19 fanatics demolished 3 of their 2 World Trade Center targets in a few seconds” story is very shaky at best. Since so much rides on it (2 active wars, + saber-rattling against Iran, + Patriot Act, + looming internet censorship, + huge public debt, + governmental neglect of anything not tied to national security, + unprecedented devaluation, + etc.), wouldn’t an honest presidential candidate take a hard look at the event that triggered this monstruosity?

McCain & Obama ought to promise to do what Bush and pliant successive Congresses refused to do: promptly open a thorough, objective and public investigation into what really happened:
* why did Osama select Boston and not JFK as the departure airport, risking Air Force interception?
* why was the Air Force so incredibly ineffective?
* why was not a single traceable airplane part recovered?
* why did NIST’s reports on the WTC structural failures omit important observed data, such as large pools of melted steel and micrometric iron spheres?
* where did 9/11’s financing come from?
* etc.

Or is it that in their mind, a multi-front war that sucks hundreds of billions of dollars per year does not deserve scrutiny?

Love,

J. Edgar Hoover stated in a memo somewhere that the danger was that King would unite the civil rights and anti-war movement.  It was not merely because Hoover was a racist that he hated him; he was a threat to the US power system.

Anarcissie, you’re quite right. Solzhenitsyn once said something to the effect that countries don’t like great authors unless they’re dead, because living great authors are like a shadow government. One might say Dr. King was much like a shadow government, too, when he was alive. But now the poor man is dead, and “safe”.

Paul_GA: ‘… Anyway, the US government doesn’t want people to remember King the antiwar activist; they just want us to recall King the civil-rights activist.’

A lot of people don’t like the Civil Rights stuff either.  What they like about Martin Luther King is, he’s dead.  Having a holiday, naming things after him, pulling a long face in front of your Black constituents, is a way of burying him, making him irrelevant.

When he was alive they hated him and fought him tooth and nail.  That’s how you knew he was doing something.

The flogging of 9/11 is somewhat different.  9/11 is flogged because it’s an excuse for war and repression, and because people like major disasters, especially those including the grisly spectacle of a massive loss of life.  There’s not much material of that sort available from Martin Luther King.

RightWing, when January rolls around, I have two holidays to remember: Lee’s and Stonewall Jackson’s birthdays (the 19th and 21st, respectively). My great-great-grandfather served under their command, y’see.

Anyway, the US government doesn’t want people to remember King the antiwar activist; they just want us to recall King the civil-rights activist. That’s true even of the Demos; they’re the War Party Lite, after all.

Why is the Clooney article still here, only 8 post and it,s been here going on 2 weeks, must be that Hollywood effect......

There is a GOD, Obama/Biden trying to get back on track, and Wham A Hurricane, thank-you Jesus, Thank-you Lord....There is a GOD,There is a GOD,There is a GOD,There is a GOD,There is a GOD,

Flag suckers of the world unite! It’s once again time to pull out you red, white, and blue hankeys and have a good patriotic cry! Bang that drum, collect that money! God knows we need another memorial.
While I pity anyone who has a family member killed in any unfortunate event, I can’t help but think every time some 9/11 cry-fest occurs, How many of the victims of 9/11 would have approved of the revenge destruction of two nations? Of the bombing of wedding partys? of the torture of other humans? of the war profiteering?
If there is one thing I cannot abide it’s people who wallow in misery. We’ve all had bad things happen to us. Most of us have not killed anybody in an act of vengance.
You cannot look forward unless you stop looking back.

where’s the towers?

Has anyone else noticed that NONE of the major newspapers has a photo of the burning towers on the cover today (9/11). Our LA Times only has cover articles on, guess what, Terrorism. Whats that all about??

“This is the end...”

If the events were to be investigated by independent law enforcement people, there could be treason trials for the crimes of 9/11.

The facts of 9/11

re: G. Anderson

Thanks for the link!

“Trumpets and violins I can hear in the distance, I think they are calling my name,
Maybe now you can’t hear them, but you will
If you just take hold of my hand...”
J.HENDRIX

G Anderson,

Thanks for the link.

A very great accounting of the unaccountable. Very well done by R. Cohen, now if only they could translate it into tongues.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/opinion/11Cohen.h tml?ref=opinion

You have to Read this…

Please not: the 9:27 post is the correct one, with the correct link. The latter was caused by a browser glitch. Sorry, ignore post at 9:35.

oldhip--thanks for link. It’s like having flashbacks, isnt it? Photo montage of Dubya’s world...brrrrrr!!

My sis lives in NYC, and I called her before the second plane hit. I was hoping so badly that it was an accident--didnt really belive it was. You know how some people say, “I was so glad at that point that Bush was our president!”. ? Well, Kim says, “Oh, my god! BUSH is our president!”. I said &*&^%! And"We are going to so bomb the hell out of someone who had nothing to do with this!”

Even given that--I never foresaw the war on civil liberties getting as bad as it has, didnt foresee Iraq (till “axis of evil” speech)--but I knew it would be bad. And Bush, McCain are STILL skating on it, even after he ignored the PDB, Todd Whitman LIED to the firefighters/ rescuers (she admits she did--for “natl security"--Rudy helped)--Bush has done more damage to this country than radical Muslims ever could.

In any case, they are one in the same. Radical religious fundamentalists, that belive it is OK to kill people anytime, anywhere. As far as it being perpetuated by the uS govt--I keep hearing that. I would have to be convinced. Not that I think that they WOULDNT do it--I’m just not sure they DID. They have definitely applied teh Shock Doctrine, and , everytime they let that mf’er stand at the 9/11 site--it is fear-mongering, exploitation and makes my stomach churn.

As the drag queen pageant known as the presidential election continues to roll on, has anyone noticed that Bolivia’s President Evo Morales has declared the U.S. Ambassador “persona non grata” for aiding in the overthrow of their government, which the U.S. State department vehemently denies.
http://www.silobreaker.com/DocumentReader.aspx?item5_9 01334029

Bitterness and despair are the conditions that the Republican party thrive on. I say Republican because the Democratic has become too often a pale version of the same routine: the “new kind of democrat” that Bill Clinton touted. War mongering enhanced by paranoid fear of things that do not actually exist: Iran’s nuclear weapons, the myths about the Russia-Georgia condition, and the “threats” in South America. Even as the drama queen pageant called the presidential election continues to unfold, did anybody notice that Bolivia’s President Evo Morales has declared the U.S. Ambassador “persona non grata”, for working to overthrow their government?
http://www.silobreaker.com/DocumentReader.aspx?item=5_ 901334029

@ wish i knew;

Thanks for that.  At least I know there is one other soul out there.

Re: Inherit the Wind

Your comment: “Otherwise their fairy tale that Liberals don’t understand terrorism loses its foundation.  And they won in 2004 with that fairy tale, and may win again.  Of course, that’s why the per-person expenditures by the Federal Govt for anti-terrorism is FIVE TIMES GREATER in Wyoming than in New York!  Yup. 5 times.”

>> You forget ITW, Cheney is from Wyoming and where Cheney goes, taxpayer money follows.

Aside from that, Wyoming isn’t technically the “red” state it is perceived to be.  Remember, “they” cheat.  Neither are half the other “red” states or “red” districts.  The real problem is the “fundamentalists” of which I believe Cheney is not.  It appears he has his own agenda and uses them when he can, but in the same way Mussolini and Hitler were allies, so it is with Cheney and the fundamentalists.

Cheney is in the spurious position of being on the side of oil and the neocons.  Which makes him allies of neither.  Precarious is a word that comes to mind.  The neocons are interested in “liberal economies” which is really code for big business run amok.  They endorse the scamming of taxpayers by undermining and changing the laws so that stealing becomes legal.  The neocons use the fundamentalists and the fundamentalists use the neocons, sort of a “favors in kind” type set-up.  So the common thread here is the fundamentalists, they’re everywhere, a finger in every pie so to speak.

The fundamentalists are somewhat like the “Hotel California” in other words, “You can check out any time you like but you can never leave.”

And this is the underlying issue.  The fundamentalists, according to Jeff Sharlet’s book “The Family” had direct ties to the Nazis (the upper echelons) years ago and carry many of the same “philosophies” if you will.  For this reason, it is NOT outlandish to see/feel the bizarrities of the Nazi “philosophy” at work in our government.  And they ARE the underlying factor.

This new fascism has been “tweaked”, a 21st century version of what “some” consider an ideology closer to “perfection” than any others.  Hitler’s fascism encompassed religion, government and big business.  The collusion we see unfolding before ours eyes is strikingly similar, almost a textbook case.

But they do not hold ALL the power, not yet, and they probably won’t attain it.  (If they did, we couldn’t converse freely here) Since their “philosophy” uses the treachery of extortion, deceit and illegalities to attain and maintain power, they are sure to fall.  It appears their “empire” is crumbling and the corruption inherent in it, is being revealed.

@ Fahrenheit
I am with you. I cannot contain my total outrage and disgust.

I woke up to the morning news and Rudy Guliani’s pig face and I want to scream at how he continues to exploit 9/11 for his own political gain.

I see Bush speaking and I want to slap him across the face and scream at him “We had the entire WORLD on our side for once and YOU AND YOUR CRONIES GAVE THEM THE FINGER AND CHOSE YOUR NEOCON AGENDA INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER BIN LADEN.”

I can’t wrap my brain around the mentality of people in this country who have TRULY been economically and psychologically raped by the neocon policies; those who simply don’t seem to be able to connect the dots and keep going back for more. I don’t know how these people can be reached, they have been so brainwashed.

I agree completely with this post that for Obama and McCain to visit Ground Zero today is distasteful stagecraft. But since repubs have hijacked patriotism, can you imagine the backlash if Obama didn’t show up?? I can already see the ads: “And he wouldn’t even bother to show up to pay his respects. Obama hates his country"…

I have voiced on these boards how, realistically, after the last 8 years, to believe Obama could be the answer to all the ills of our country is naive - but he is a step in the right direction that we DESPERATELY need. And because of this I find myself defending Obama like you do the main character in a John Woo movie, who is up against a (neocon) sociopath that also happens to be a cop or something. Like he has to play by all the rules, and the bad guy is bound by no rules or conscience at all, and you wonder how on earth the good guy will prevail. But you know he has to prevail or you will be stuck with that unbearable knot in the pit of your stomach.

To all the people who lost loved ones 7 years ago, my heart goes out. I continue to mourn what our country has lost in the 7 years since.

To me, by now, September 11th is just another day; I’ve already moved on, because the government’s reaction to it (stealing rights and freedoms, encouraging a climate of fear, and getting this country trapped in two foreign quagmires) was just plain wrong. And compounding its sins by making it a national day of self-flagellation and mourning—disgusting!

My thanks to Ms. Cocco for writing this.

Isn’t that nice.  Obama congratulating McCain on his speech (change is coming!) and offering a bipartisan photo-op at the 9/11 site.  It brings a tear to one’s eye.  Both the Dems and the Gops getting behind the 9/11-anthrax false flag operation and promoting the fraudulent War on Terrorism that it initiated.

The Bushites, with Dem complicty, have not only used this 9/11-anthrax homicide to jumpstart the War but, in addition, were complicit in producing it.  This fact is so contrary to American ideology, and the American Dream, that most of the American people still cannot accept it.  American leaders engaging in a pre-emptive strike against their own people, White professional Americans? no way!

And it is this ideological denial that has driven the US wars, US debt, US class inequality, and, eventually, US collapse.

The most effective support for this ideological denial, despite all the facts accumulated by world wide 9/11 truthers, is provided by Educated pseudo-progressives.  I would hold Noam Chomsky, rated the number 1 public intellectual in some poll or other, and his journalist sidekick, Alex Cockburn, most responsible for this pseudo-progressive denial.

Starting with their acceptance of the offical verdict of the Warren Commission, perhaps the most fraudulent piece of political theater ever perpetrated on a people, they have restricted progressives from understanding what Michael Parenti has called the “gangster nature of the state.”

Once all of US leaders were on board and complicit in blaming Muslim Terrorists for this massacre, the War on Terrorism flowed smoothly afterward.  Once one accepts a catestrophic lie of this magnitude, the other Big Lies are much easier.

The War on Terrorism was instituted in a Jerusalem conference in 1979 attended by Bush senior, Sharon, and assorted American and Israeli neocons.  It’s statement of purpose was written by Wolfowitz in 1992, rejected, incorporated in PNAC in 1998, and implemented by the Bushites, with Dem support.

And now McCain and Obama are going to commemorate where it all started.  A moving ceramony, with four pausses where the planes hit the two towers and their collapse.  Ignoring the collapse of the third tower where no planes hit, in the customary, mainstream way.  Barbarism can have mo more fitting and sentimental rite. 

Hats off, everyone!  Hats off to violence, greed and oppression and the authorized delusion that legitimates them.

9/11 has been politically useful, as were the Lusitania, the Maine, the Alamo, and so on. As there seems to be a general propensity to celebrate death and disaster—not long ago we had the spectacle of 1000 motorcycles driving to Pennsylvania along with a cross made from the remains of one of the World Trade Center buildings—it’s not hard to work up a circus each year.  (In spite of Mayor Bloomberg, it is a circus.) But it is getting old and worn-out from hard use.

I don’t see what having a yearly rigmarole does for the survivors of 9/11. I think they, and the dead, are being cynically exploited.  I guess a lot of other people have a good time with the boatloads of sentimentality, sententiousness and sanctimony provided by the media and the politicians, though, so maybe I shouldn’t complain.

I was there, by the way. “Never forget”? I wish I could.

McCain will slip and yell, “Remember the Maine”

Addendum;
You know, we shouldn’t even be having this god damn discussion after 8 years of the absolute worst governance in the short history of this, used to be, republic.  I’m so goddamned pissed off it’s hard to control my use of 4 letter words.  What the hells wrong with us?

@ thebeerdoctor;

Yeah, again, I agree with your summary.  I would add this: Obama is a Black man; this country is racist and the last person they will vote for is an angry “black man” (Jesse Jackson’s conundrum).  So, how does he address this issue?  He does need to respond more strongly than he has, but he’s at a distinct disadvantage because of his color.  I think you and any intelligent individual know this...but...how can he do this without invoking the dogs of Rovian wrath?  That vile bastard has to have a special place in hell reserved for him, I hope.  But I digress; I have no answer for this.  What do you think?

N.Campbell has the Right Idea- now we have to put it in terms of Legality.
9/11 conspiracy theorist want to peg this admin wiht intentional involvement- Frnakly I’m willing to hang it on them, not from hard cold facts/proof..but they have lied about everything else, they have lost the chance for ‘Reasonable Doubt’. But it will be more difficult to prove-and time consuming compiling all th elittle bits of evidence.
We could go after them for failing to heed warnings from previous, thus essentially guilt of Reckless endangerment..On a Mass Scale.
We could get them on Unethical and Immoral busines practices which lead to WTC ‘93, Cole, 9/11 etc etc. But again Labor intensive- Years to process
We could get them on all the Areas which have been blatantly Unconsitutional- lengthy process
We could get them on Just ineptitude- What a stock pile that would amount to
We could slice and dice up the numerous ways to Convict all the players in this admin...Bu the Best would be- and easy to prove… Exploitation leading to Mental Distress. Their lies, their ommissions, their repeated misuse of the event, the repeated visual, repeated needless (fabricated) ‘Threat Levels’....
Oh how they have caused terror to our own people for years. Lot at surveys alone- the questions long before this Campaign season,’Do you feel your are safer now?” the question denotes that the degree Safety is questionable to begin with- then watch the responses. Psychological Terror is a method used to Exploit innocents.
What is the the difference between the techniques used by Child predators to psychologically restrain a victim and what this admin has used to psychological restrain and terrify our citizens.
They also use th eThreat of Harm if we do not comply- ‘Vote for a Dem and your safety will be in jeporady’. Don’t captors often use ‘Booby Trapped’ as a way to keep kidnapped victims from escaping- or a threat about their family members?
Essential are they not using the footage, stories, Rhetoric of 9/11 to elicit a ‘Clock Work Orange’type induced response from the Public?
Their attempts to psychologically control and manipulate US should be handled as an Exploitation case.Let their ‘Psychological Bullshit’ bite them in the Ass.
Granted they and their Corp sponsors Must also be charged with Treason, War crimes and Other forms of Crimes against Humanity....But the Proof of their Exploitation crimes is available nearly everytime they get on Any form of Media.

Sadly, we are no safer now than we were then. After all this time.

And the bottom line is that despite all their posturing, the Republican party has used 911 for it’s own selfish ends.

They’ve been having a great time in Washington while the rest of us suffered.

They’ve wrecked the economy, destroyed the middle class, gutted protections for consumers, and damaged our military, in short accomplished many of the aims of the terrorists who attacked us. They have been the terrorists best friends.

And now they are trying to lie their way out of it.

@ Fahrenheit 451

Yes I have read the link, posted on the other thread. I think one of the great problems for the democratic ticket is they still attempt to be civil with the republicans, who do nothing of the sort.
Senator Obama, no matter how misguided he may be on the issues, always attempts to comport himself as a gentleman, who thinks politics is a discussion and debate over ideas and strategies to address problems. Of course the republicans, as usual, think nothing of the sort.
People like Arianna Huffington at The Huffington Post wonder why he seems unable to summon up a “fierce urgency of now” mode to attack this election. Perhaps it is because many of these historic symbols of change, are simply that: symbols. It should be remembered he was only six years old when Dr. King was shot down. The fiery events of the late 1960’s and early 1970’s are only a historical narrative to Barack Obama, who did not turn 19 until 1980. This could be the key to his perspective. He would have knowledge of the Iranian hostage situation, the emergence of Ronald Reagan (which, not so strangely, he has somewhat praised), to the union busting of the PATCO strike, Iran-Contra, and the rest of the tumultuous events that close out the 20th century.
But most of the stuff that forged the consciousness of earlier generations is remote to Senator Obama, except as historical record. Many of his supporters want him to fight back hard, but maybe that is somewhat foreign to him. To speak of a fierce urgency is one thing, to live it is quite another.

Marie Cocco is equating the two parties like Amy Goodman does in accordence with the rule established by the corporate media that you can’t criticise republicans without criticising democrats, but everyone knows which party has exploited 9/11 for political purposes.  Tell the truth Marie Cocco.

WE WILL NEVER FORGET......just as we will never forget NAM or any of the other HORRIBLE THINGS where BAD PEOPLE COMMAND ACTS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST INNOCENTS.
BUT NOW IS THE TIME TO KEEP OUR EYES ON “BULLSH*T"-HE IS DESPERATE TO DO ANYTHING TO BE REMEMBERED[his legacy]....HE IS A RAT ABOARD A SINKING SHIP and he WILL DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO SAVE HIMSELF.HE IS ON HIS WAY OUT!!!!!!!AND A CORNERED RAT or any other cornered animal IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!!!!!!

For 7 years the Re-thugs have worked hard to convince America that Blue Staters don’t understand 9/11, don’t understand terrorism and don’t appreciate just what an attack this was.  And many Red Staters believe it.

It’s, of course, a lie.

9/11’s focal point was the WTC, in the heart of New York City, the bluest part of a blue state, and between New Jersey and Connecticut--two fellow blue states.  The planes took off from Logan, another Blue state.  WE GET IT!!!! The attack on the World Trade Center intimately touched EVERYONE here.  I live 25 miles from Ground Zero and here’s who was hurt by it around me:
1) Our babysitter lost two friends in the Towers.
2) A 2nd grade child in my son’s elementary school lost his father.
3) A fellow 1st grader of my son almost lost his father--he was hurt in the attack.
4) The president of our tiny company (<50) lost his best friend.
5) The receptionist at the same lost a friend.
6) The master of our dojo runs a private fund.  27 of his employees were killed in the World Trade Center.
7) I walked into my bank and a teller was barely able to keep from crying--she had pictures of her cousin who was missing.
8) My oldest friend was in the Amex building when he heard the first plane crash.  He went outside, looked straight up and saw the second plane hit.  He ran for his life and saw people jumping to their deaths to avoid being burned to death.

And that’s just me.  One person here. EVERYONE had similar stories, here in this very Blue Tri-state area, where the Rethugs would have America believe 9/11 never happened--that it was “someplace else” in some “Real America”.

Otherwise their fairy tale that Liberals don’t understand terrorism loses its foundation.  And they won in 2004 with that fairy tale, and may win again.  Of course, that’s why the per-person expenditures by the Federal Govt for anti-terrorism is FIVE TIMES GREATER in Wyoming than in New York!  Yup. 5 times.

America: 9/11 happened to US! Us Blue-State folks here in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.

But that’s OK. I’m sure the folks in New Orleans feel the same way: That, according to the Bushites, Katrina happened to “America” but not to them--their problems were their own fault because they are Democrats and...(gasp) mainly Black--Republican covert racism is consistent and constant since 1964.

When is America going to wake up and realize that the ones beating on them are the glib-talking Re-thug-li-cons?

It is only a matter of time, when McCain slips and says “Remember the Alamo!”

@ thebeerdoctor;
“The Republican party’s abuse of this event for propaganda, is beyond obscene.” Says you, and I couldn’t agree more!

You’ll love the article link below, enjoy.

Seven years on, three big 9/11 lies
By Muhammad Cohen
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JI11Ak01.html

September 11 is a very good day not to watch television, unless you have a masochist’s desire to review national pain, without any new light shed on the event itself. Corporate media thrives on this horrific stuff, and the candidates being the opportunists that they truly are, fall in lock step, to display their solemn solidarity. It was Ron Paul who was vehemently attacked by his opponents, for suggesting that if someone attacks you, wouldn’t you want to know why?
The brand known as Nine Eleven, is not interested in any questions. It has become a war mongering, jingoistic excuse. The Republican party’s abuse of this event for propaganda, is beyond obscene.

They are politicians - They will both exploit it. 
What level of eploitation each uses is to be seen. 

If it doesn’t become a circus, the corporate media will make sure it does anyway.  Both sides will “attack” the other, either openly, or subtly, for exploiting the occasion, no matter how “sincere” either one is.

They both have learned - Attack their strengths - Attack their attacks - If you have the proven image of corruption, avoid the real issues, and attack the attack, and emphasize culturally-dividing “issues,” and act the victim of elitists and angry forces, whether you are the victim or the victimizer - doesn’t matter - Facts do not matter.  Only the purposeful manipulated myth does matter, especially with the backing of a bought and complicit media of just 5 corporations with shared boards of directors, that are also shared with most of the extractive, pharmaceutical, ag-chem. et al corporations.

Link of proof at “Big Media Interlocks with Corporate America”
(For those that haven’t seen the proof yet.)

Over half of the Anerican voters have not woke up yet - Over half believe “The Rapture” is actually going to happen - Over half still believe FOX News is news - And that half does not read/watch us - And as it stands right now???  most are going to insanely vote for McCain.

If you haven’t read “We’re Gonna Lose This Frickin’ Thing” -
Please, take the time to do so now.