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Posted on Sep 9, 2008
Palin and McCain
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Republican presidential candidate John McCain and running mate Sarah Palin react to the cheers of supporters during a campaign rally at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, Pa., on Tuesday.

By Robert Scheer

Ignorance is bliss, which perhaps explains Gov. Sarah Palin being so confidently wrong about the root cause of the federalization of most of the nation’s mortgage market. But what is Sen. John McCain’s excuse? Both act as if the financial meltdown of the U.S. economy has nothing to do with the policies of the political party they represent—but she at least may not know any better.

Distracted momentarily from her campaign revelries of maverick opposition to the “bridge to nowhere,” which she had supported until it became a public relations debacle, and congressional earmarks for which she, as a small-town mayor, had hustled piggishly at the federal trough, Palin made the mistake of dealing with an unscripted subject.

Referring to the government’s bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Palin opined that the two had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers,” displaying abysmal ignorance of the fact that only now will those privately owned banks become a huge taxpayer obligation, as the federal government takes them over. Nor can the meltdown of home values be traced to those two beleaguered institutions, because they did not make the original subprime mortgage commitments.

The housing bubble was the result of the Ponzi-scheme antics of those other financial entities: commercial banks, stockbrokers and hedge funds, which were allowed in a GOP-deregulated market to get into the “swap” business. Through the rampant reselling of loans, the obligation to collect on a loan was divorced from the act of selling it in the first place, so who cared if the recipient of the loan was not at all qualified or the appraisal of the property value was inflated, as long as the paper was traded away, or insured, before the moment of foreclosure?

As with any Ponzi scheme, the perps, who included the legislators as well as the bankers who exploited the loopholes they provided, expected to bail long before the bubble burst. The role of the legislators, Republican-led but with far too many Democratic running dogs, was critical to the success of the scam.

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The mortgage swaps distancing the originator of the loan from the ultimate collector were made legal only as a result of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which former Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, pushed through Congress just hours before the 2000 Christmas recess. Gramm, until recently co-chair of the McCain campaign, also had co-authored the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which became law in 1999 with President Bill Clinton’s signature. That gem, which Gramm had pushed for years with massive financial industry lobbying, destroyed the Depression-era barrier to the merger of stockbrokers, banks and insurance companies. Those two acts effectively ended significant regulation of the financial community, and no wonder we have witnessed an even more rapid and severe meltdown in housing values than during the Great Depression.

Not surprisingly, Gramm was rewarded for his service upon retirement as a senator and as head of the Senate Banking Committee with a top position at the Swiss-based UBS bank, which is close to drowning in the subprime mortgage nightmare he helped create. These folks have no shame, as was evidenced when the senator’s wife, Wendy, was named a director of Enron, whose roiling of the energy market had been made possible only through yet another provision of Gramm’s Commodity Futures Modernization Act.

While neophyte Palin can claim ignorance of such matters, that would be particularly difficult for McCain, who as a senator consistently lined up with Gramm in his deregulation crusade. Clearly McCain had not learned much from his previous involvement with the savings-and-loan debacle about the risks to consumers in unregulated banking.

McCain served as chair of Gramm’s abortive 1996 presidential campaign, and Gramm returned the favor, providing critical support for McCain with the hard-line Republican base, including the editorial board of The Wall Street Journal. It was assumed in the business press that Gramm was the front-runner to be Treasury secretary in a McCain administration. Gramm left his role as the top economic person near McCain only after he made an embarrassing statement blaming the current economic downturn on “whiners,” an awkward reference to the victims of his disastrous legislation.

Amazingly, the turmoil in the housing market, which has led to the socializing of the nation’s revered homeownership market in a massive expansion of the role of big government, has apparently not troubled McCain’s conservative supporters. As I said, ignorance is bliss, and evidently not just for the newbie Palin.


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By KDelphi, September 14, 2008 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment

You know, I have been thinking that—in fact, I think I said that about Sept. 10-11. But, someone replied, “Because she’ll be jsut a heartbeat away from the presidency if McCain wins”. True,. But McCain isnt even the median age for a man, abnd his mother is 94. Poeple will ultimately vote McCain(or not).

True, some former Hillary supporters are going to vote MCain, but I think they were going to anyway.

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By Tony Wicher, September 14, 2008 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment

YOu know what, folks? I think we Democrats were really caught off balance by the surprise Palin nomination and the way we have reacted has been all wrong. We should have stopped firing at McCain and his policies for about ten minutes, long enough to graciously compliment her on her nomination, and then contiinued to fire. Instead we wasted two weeks on personal attacks on Palin, some of which were actually unfair or false and opened us to counter-attacks, and which swung a large sympathy vote amongh women especially to Palin. It was a brilliant move by McCain/Rove and we fell right into their trap. I just hope it isn’t too late to start ignoring her. This is the last post I will devote to her.

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By DoctorK, September 14, 2008 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment

Read this….and weep….we’re in deep doodoo and what are the headlines about? It’s People/US magazine and Faux News getting into the heads of the people who will vote in November, focusing on inane “issues” like designer glasses and pigs with lipstick….what the hell has happened to this country? Just like there was Reaganomics, we have 8 yrs of a FAILED Bush presidency, which shouldn’t have started if a few hanging chads had swung the way of Al Gore (don’t get me started on that one).
Wake up, America!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/14/greenspan-this-is-the-wor_n_126274.html

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By Opening Eyes, September 12, 2008 at 8:04 pm Link to this comment

My father, a racist, told me he thinks Palin is the next Margaret Thatcher.  I’m sorry, Margaret, there is no comparison.  But some have been fooled by smart Republican script writers, and an ability to recite. 
There is the story about Putin and his hand picked successor,Dmitry Medvedev.  They are ordering lunch and the waiter takes Putin’s order, and then asks what the vegetable would like to order, and Putin replies, “The same.”  Unfortunately McCain’s vegetable is no match for Puten’s.

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By opening eyes, September 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment
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Whoah! My father thinks Palin is the next Margaret Thatcher.  I do apologize Margaret for that consideration.  You were far more dignified and intelligent than that.  He’s a racist, but won’t come out and say it.
There was a joke about Putin and Dmitry Medvedev having lunch.  The waiter got Putin’s order and then asked what the vegetable (Dmitry) was going to have.  Putin responded, “The same.”  So will McCain and his vegetable be equals to Putin an his vegetable?  I don’t think so.

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By AlaskaMaui, September 12, 2008 at 5:24 pm Link to this comment

Women organizers who announced an Alaska women’s demonstration against Palin for this Saturday are now being threatened and harassed as a result of a right wing wacko radio announcer putting their tele numbers on a web site to incite calls to the woman.
and here’s the APRN radio story: http://aprn.org/2008/09/11/women-disagreeing-with-palins-politics-holding-rally-despite-hateful-backlash/
This is a nasty turn of events in this election 2008

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By KDelphi, September 12, 2008 at 9:11 am Link to this comment

I agree with the “pitbull, pig, lipstick” thing. She put it out there—even if Obama wasnt referring to her directly (I think he was trying to be subtle about it)

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By Tony Wicher, September 12, 2008 at 9:03 am Link to this comment

“Shrub” was an inspired designation for Bush. Wonder what handle she would hung on Palin?)
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I think “pit bull with lipstick” is a great tag. She hung it on herself, and McCain welded it on with his phony outrage about Obama’s phrase. They brought up the lipstick thing, we didn’t. Let’s call her that all all the way to November. The “working class” may not be very politically educated, but some ridicule and derision might break through.

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By KDelphi, September 12, 2008 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

Sepharad—Wow. Someone actually trying to persuade people without going ballistic—very refreshing. Sorry, but I think MD has become quite the bitch. She used to be funny. I’m not sure whether she is trying to be “clever” or what. I tried to “wait” on Palin—there was alot of sexism in this campaign. So, I listened to her—I detest her. It would not have made any difference—I never wouldve voted McCain, anyway—not even in 2000.(Although, he WAS “better” then) I miss the hell out of Ivins. And Richards. It did make me quit smoking—I know that they would liek that. How, about a “memorial quit” for them, ladies?

There iS some racism among all classes—it may be more prevalent in the working classes; there are socio-economic/percieved competition reasons for this. The “scarier” it gets—the less people trust.But for the majority that are NOT racist—it is wise to point out to them the financial reasons to not vote GOP. As for the person who said they “wouldnt vote for Obama because he is black”—you have more patience than I do! I dont think such a person can be changed; but, if they can just calling them “racist”—they either take it as a “compliment” (seriously!@)or an insult. Nothing is achieved, that I can see.

B. Clinton is a “son of the south”. I didnt “hear” racism in his campaign for Hillary , until South Carolina [“Jesse Jackson” stuff (I actually voted for Jackson—friends said I was crazy, because he was a “preacher”; that was before the neo-cons debasement of religion, as I see it)]Jesse Jackson, at first, said that HE didnt think it was racist, and that, in fact, it might be “race-baiting”, but he has since shown to be more than a little resentful of Obama, although he did make (in a very crude manner)some points about class re: Obama, that I think may have bveen helpful, if he hadnt stated it the way he did.

I voted Hillary here in Ohio—I thought that her health care plan would be better. It’s neither her nor ther now; I am not attached to her, nor to any candidate. I find that futile. I love kucinich—but, I never r4eally thought he could win. I liked Edwards populism. But, apparently, alot of people are more concerned with peoples’ priovate live. Do I think that what he did to Elizabeth, while she is so sick was horrible? Yes! Is that any of my businesss? no! If he would be a good “cabinet person”, who cares? BUT, I realize that alot of peole do, and his carrer is basically over (But, look at BILL?!)

One thing I noted is that, the gOP, despite all oits “moral” posturing, doesnt “banish” its cohorts for their unusual sex live—Gingrich, Craig, Giulliani,Vitter,—as long as they are “useful”.Gore was mistaken about Bill’s impact, in most states.As for his “helping Obama”—I am afraid that the “racist” label has stuck pretty firm. I’m not sure Bill is held in as high estem as he once was. At the DNC, he got thundorous applause. In real life, I think alot of peole think he squandered alot of chances to do alot of good, for selfish reasons. I, on the other hand, tend to think that he was fairly mistaken as to what wasw “good” for th e working classes. However, you are right. He stil has alot of support among working clas adn poor whties. I believe that he and Obama (by wa of HIllary ) were friends before al the histrionics. (Some real, some invent4ed for political reasons, I believe—workeed wellin the primary—-now , how to “undo” it?) If he can help—great.

I have a great deal of trouble with Obama’s shift to the Right. I wish he would “go back” to what he was saying earlier in the primaries.As it is, I think my vote wil have to go Third Party. If I ‘m wasting it, its only one vote. I’ve voted Dem SO many times, when i just did not think the candidate was that great. What seem to me to be different ths time, is that, after eight yrs of Dubya, I expected a somewhat more progressive candidate—or at least Hillary! (LOL)

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By Sepharad, September 12, 2008 at 1:20 am Link to this comment
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Frank Cajon, That doesn’t make any sense. Maybe your friend was annoyed at you for something else. If she supported Hillary earlier and you didn’t, maybe your comment just struck her the wrong way. But that doesn’t make much sense either, as Palin’s very presence on the ticket is insulting to Hillary who is competent, bright, principled and more than qualified while Palin is none of those things. We women—even if we’re journalists—can be sensitive creatures. The very fact that Sarah Palin is The Woman in the race and not Hillary is enough to make me very cranky if someone is foolish enough to bring it to my attention. When Hillary was still running, every time Maureen Dowd raked her over the coals I thought “Bitch! Can’t stand any other female outshining her.” Now, when Maureen gets her claws into Palin, I think “Way to go Maureen.” (But honestly, more and more I miss Molly Ivins and wish she were here to hold our hands during these outrageously stupid election developments. I keep wondering what she’d have thought, how she would’ve put things. No matter what happened, Molly’s take always made us feel better. “Shrub” was an inspired designation for Bush. Wonder what handle she would hung on Palin?)

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By Frank Cajon, September 11, 2008 at 10:48 pm Link to this comment

Well, today, on another blogsite I was officially, for the first time ever, called a sexist for something I posted about Palin. It had nothing whatsoever to do with her being a woman, of course, but did deal with her influence peddling, and pork barrel, oil deals, seperatist party, etc and her incredible sub-high school civics class intellect. The bottom line is that the accusation came from a freind that is a newspaper editor, and smart enough to realize she is, female or not, an idiot and dangerous because of it; also, inept. The fact that McCain has gotten a poll bump from her just once again reinforces for me my lingering suspicion that the American voting populace has been dumbed down to a level that is frightening and can be led like sheep to the slaughter by the fascists who run the entire circus our government has become.

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By Tony Wicher, September 11, 2008 at 9:06 pm Link to this comment

By Wood, September 11 at 4:08 pm

Ron Paul is a fantasy, like the Trilateral Commission, the Illuminati and the Bilderberg Group. I remember this craziness from way back in the 1950’s when it was being touted by the John Birch Society, along with the unspeakable Communist conspiracy to weaken America and pollute our precious bodily fluids by flouridating the water.

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By Sepharad, September 11, 2008 at 6:59 pm Link to this comment
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KDelphi, you’re on the right track. The main problem is getting workingclass and unemployed workingclass people to vote for Obama. (That is, if we actually believe he will make a difference. I think he’s a helluvalot more likely than McCain to nudge things in a better direction and this year anyway it’s a bad idea to vote for anyone else, however appealing—Ron Paul et al. I know some of us keep saying “no more lesser evil”, but as long as evil is evil, lesser is better.)

We’re all going a little crazy—on this thread alone in the last couple of days people have called each other and workingclass Americans stupid, dissed trailer dwellers as trash when in this economy it may be criminally complicit to be living in a hip-neighborhood flat or spacious suburban mansions, gone on and on about lipstick on various animals, given up on democracy.

Modest proposals: Think of nothing but getting Obama elected. The main stumbling block as of today is the vanishing Democratic vote for workingclass and unemployed workingclass folk. For starters we can stop calling them stupid. They’re upset, worried and at some level frightened (aren’t we all?) but not necessarily bitter. If they were bitter they’d burn down their churches and Republican campaign offices. They have to be able to trust Obama and (to use Tony Wicher’s phrase) he’s just getting warmed up. Some see racism in workingclass wariness (including union organizers) so fine, let’s do what we can to disperse that. Obama can go around with Biden and both meet and talk with with people. James Carville is The Man to design this, north and south, and is probably the only person who can persuade Bill Clinton to work with O/B together and separately. The Dem candidates can’t say they will deliver anything they don’t think they can. No lies. Just specific plans to get people back to work, how they’ll help, how long it will take, other long-range goals but clearly noted as such. Southerners and border-staters are particularly patriotic, and Obama cum Biden is strong on protecting the country from terrorists as well as helping returning vets, how to repair the broken military and how this all ties in with the economy.

A friend told us we’d like “The Wire” so we rented the DVDs. I was amazed at how realistically the characters, the problems, the fallout, etc were presented. Sent me right back to old investigative reporter and ACLU work in such areas. Ed Burns was the prime creator of this series; perhaps he could work with Obama a bit and tell him how to talk to longshoremen, gangbangers and the people who share the neighborhoods with them without talking down to them.

The women among us can keep working on ex-Hillary supporters (such as myself) who are, for whatever reason, not inclined to vote for Obama. I think most of the women I know of right now are coming around, with the exception of one I talked to who won’t vote for O. because he’s black. (Suggested to her that Hillary, a civil rights advocate from way back, would be glad to have Obama in the Oval Office if she hadn’t wanted to be there herself at the same time. This only drew a resentful frown. Then told her that he was half white, so she could vote for him and wind up with a 3/4-white Dem ticket, just like Hillary/Obama would have been. At least that got her attention. Could use some suggestions for a follow-up.)


For Paolo and others talking about giving up on democracy, please don’t. Problem is that voters have to be well-informed and educated, and our culture as is sucks at that just now. Point taken that majority rule is not a good thing—but what separates a functional democracy from the other kind are the institutions that protect minority rights. We have those.

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By Wood, September 11, 2008 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

To KDelphi,

It takes a man to admit when he “slips.” Apologising is not an easy thing to do. We are all human beings and it is not a perfect world. I get it. So thank you for being gracious enough to apologise. You scored major points towards building a good character which was not over looked. Thank you.

Now, moving on to bigger and better. Your frustration is certainly understandable as I have be on this earth a pretty long time and I also get very frustrated with Government and the fact that they do not represent the little man who works, pays his taxes, pays his bills and has a sense of responsibility to be a good citizen.

Do yourself a favor and go to and search Ron Paul’s
7 part videos at the Minneapolis Rally held recently.
Please view all 7 videos and see if he hits on things you might also believe in.

You see the Democratic Party has moved its leftist views to the ” Center Line ” that divides both parties. McCain is getting heat from his own conservative party because of his leftist views and positions. So there is a grey area only that separates Obama and McCain. Having said that, now take a look at Dr. Ron Paul’s revolutionary movement and what he stands for and you just might free up a lot of that pent up frustration. Make no doubt about this ( my prediction ) Ron Paul will be a tough man to beat in the next General Election of 2012.

Thanks again for your grace.

Respectfully,

Wood

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By KDelphi, September 11, 2008 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

wood—I’m not having a great day. I do apologize, as I look over the posts. I just get very frustrated that the Dems continue to dismiss what seems to be an entire class of people that they need to win. But, it should not have been directed at you.

As to the cursing—you will have to report a lot of people if you are going to report cursing.I appreciate your confronting me (not the moderator). I will not use cursing if I reply to YOU anymore. If someone else has a problem with it—check back a little. I curse when I get frustrazated. I’m only apologizing that I directed it at you. Nothing more.

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By Sepharad, September 11, 2008 at 2:16 pm Link to this comment
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Tony Wicher, I did respond to your 7:09 post around midnight last night but it isn’t showing up so maybe it got lost in space. Anyway, I basically said I hope you’re right, and that I was cheered by the NYTime’s prompt trashing of the Republican ad re Obama pushing comprehensive sex training to tots when he actually enabling educators to help young schoolchildren protect themselves from child molesters.

Also I noted that I root and cheer when I’m trying to persuade reluctant people to vote for Obama. But on Truthdig I also talk about stuff that seems to be becoming problematic for Obama’s campaign, hoping that ideas generated here may find their way to O’s campaign strategists who can actually do something about said problems.

We don’t have a tv so I miss live footage, but this a.m.‘s NPR and NYTimes suggest that Obama is getting fiercer, almost cocky even, and apparently on the Letterman show dismissed the lies as “silly season” and insisted on discussing the issues.

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Marianne, I don’t think ALL of the media is in bed with the Republicans—certainly not NYTimes, the Washington Post, the LATimes, the Louisville Courier-Journal, the Atlanta Constitution and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch—but those are the only American papers I see. Not sure about other papers in places like Iowa, Pennsylvania etc. but you might want to check out the Columbia Journalism Review, which routinely monitors and comments on unfair or merely unprofessional coverage, including that by the wire services.

As for broadcast and cable and net journalism (and except for the Ed Murrow golden years I don’t think you can call what the networks do “journalism”),it’s all over the place. On the extremes, FOX of course is devoted to shoring up conservative loyalty just as KPFA keeps feeding the self-identified progressive liberals what they want to hear (except Amy Goodman: her “Democracy Now” is an oasis in the desert).

Newspapers aren’t as good as they used to be because their standard purpose—“inform, educate, entertain”—has been distorted with the emphasis on “entertain” because they have to compete with the boob tube and the Net, neither of which hold themselves to any standard except that of maxing the numbers of viewers/users/hits because the money is in the ads, which in turn pay per consumer delivered. Also, newspapers have to compete with the shrinking willingness of people to read anything long. So what they do is try to stay competitive by being all over the latest flavor. Just now it’s nutty Sarah; in the Dem primary it was Obama generating the kind of buzz the press has to deliver. That’s entertainment. But the good ones eventually settle down and do their jobs as well as they can, given the cut-throat environment they have to operate in.

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By Wood, September 11, 2008 at 1:26 pm Link to this comment

Dear KDelphi,

I really don’t know what you are referring to in your
last response to me. First of all, I never addressed
you in writing at this site.
The 8:36 am posting was from Leefeller addressed to me. The next thing I know you come out of nowhere with a verbal attack. Sorry, I don’t get the connection as to how you got involved in postings between Leefeller and myself. In the future please do not use profanity when addressing me in any forum. Remember, I asked you politely. Next time you will be reported to the webmaster of this site. So my advice is ...cool it with people who have had no contact with you.

Wood

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By KDelphi, September 11, 2008 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

I cant stand MCCain/Palin. I dont want them to win. Obama is BEHIND with working class people. I dont know what it is about that that you dont get. If you dont care about winning—have at it. You wont listen to anyone. Maybe you dont want to win—maybe you just want to bitch. BTW—who teh hell do you think you are, with al this supposed “concern” for people hurt by Dubya’s economic policies, and then you act like you are better than they are. If you dont watch it, we’ll ALL get what you deserve!

It sounds like you think that you are something special. That people who are stuck in poverty deserve it. If so, you should be voting GOP.

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By Leefeller, September 11, 2008 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment

Now that you mention it, there are a lot of trailer parks in Arizona, sort of explains why I like him.

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By KDelphi, September 11, 2008 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

wood—I’m not a “trailer parker”—I WAS! So the fuck what. And you guys wonder why you are behind.Keep it up. Then, blame it on Nader.

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By cyrena, September 11, 2008 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment

By CJ, September 10 at 8:52 pm

CJ, thanks for the excellent post!!!

I get it.

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By sandyg, September 11, 2008 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

To KDelphi, et al:

She probably knows, as well as anyone, that the only thing between her and a seat in the Oval office is an ailing 72-year-old cancer-survivor.  I wonder what the odds are that she will get a walk into one of the most ‘perk-laden’ jobs on the planet.
That should make you and the other trailer-parkers happy.

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By Wood, September 11, 2008 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment

Dear Leefeller,

Yes….it is possible.

Wood

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By Wood, September 11, 2008 at 12:26 pm Link to this comment

Dear Bloggers,

I must apologise for the type o to the reference
in my last posting. I’m only human and prone to mistakes just by the mere fact that I’m human.
Admitting to making mistakes makes me NOT qualified to be a politician. Because politicians will never admit to making mistakes. Period.

Correct reference Site:
http://www.educate-yourself.org/en/uscconcentrationcamps28jun01.shtml

Once you get to the site, it will say ” File Not Found ” now go to the top of the links and count down 9 lineson the left side. Go to the right to the 2nd listing, U.S. Concentration Camps. Click it.
Sorry only TRUTH listed here. Search U.S. FEMA plan “Rex84” while at this site if you dare.

Check it out.

Wood

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By KDelphi, September 11, 2008 at 12:07 pm Link to this comment

I dont live in a trailer—but i have. I dont have “hurt feelings”—I just think tis a mistake to be losing among the working classes and keep insulting them.

Just thought maybe Obama and his allies wanted to win.

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By Leefeller, September 11, 2008 at 12:01 pm Link to this comment

KDelphi,

Focusing on McCain may be a mistake, for she will replace him, hell she may even do him in?

Sandyg,

You have insulted the nations trailer trash beyond redemption. Not nice to hurt people like that, I live in a trailer, my feelers are hurt.

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By CoseSense, September 11, 2008 at 11:24 am Link to this comment
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When Matt Damon talks about Palin having little experience and that if McCain dies we will have Sarah Palin, the other side always counters with, “Well what about Obama? He has even less experience.” Their argument falls flat because: The difference is if you are squeamish about Obama, now let me say this very clearly, WE STILL HAVE BIDEN, AN EXPERT IN FOREIGN AFFAIRS. Clear enough? So don’t use that phony, lame excuse.  We all can see through it.  You just don’t want Obama because he is black and you are a racist.

And as for seceding from the Union, what is more unpatriotic than that?

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By KDelphi, September 11, 2008 at 10:17 am Link to this comment

You got something against trailer parks? These people can vote, too. Some people cannot afford a house. I have friends that live in trailer parks.

Dems need to get over themselves, and stop asking"why are the wokring class so stupid”. They’re not. Some are just not educated. Insulting them gets you absolutely nowhere.

I know you were referring to Palin. I think it would be best if people focused on McCain. If the left keeps focusing on Palin (the right must love it! No looking at McCain!) , they may focus on Biden—I dont think you want that. He has quite a record—negative and positive.

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By sandyg, September 11, 2008 at 10:07 am Link to this comment

I’ve been extremely puzzled:  How many trailer-parks did John McCain have to visit in search of a suitable runing-mate??

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By wildflower, September 11, 2008 at 10:03 am Link to this comment

Re: McCain & New World Order [Leefeller]

So Palin’s husband is just out of the loop? Goodness, you’d think Palin would have at least shared this with her own husband - poor guy, working all those years to secede from the U.S. only to find out on Truthdig that all his secession efforts have been wasted, and his own wife had been keeping it a secret from him.

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By Leefeller, September 11, 2008 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

Wildflower,

“Palin’s husband’s involvement with that Alaskan political group - the one that wants to secede from the U.S.”

Not important, for it is impossible to secede from the new world order.

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By Leefeller, September 11, 2008 at 9:36 am Link to this comment

Wood,

If McCain really owns seven homes, doesn’t that have some very important Biblical meaning, even a revelation of sorts?

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By wildflower, September 11, 2008 at 9:35 am Link to this comment

No, I suspect Obama is more concerned about the issues.  But speaking of poor leadership, I wonder why McCain hasn’t address Palin’s husband’s involvement with that Alaskan political group - the one that wants to secede from the U.S. 

You would think McCain would care enough about the American public to at least advise us on the status of these people. Of course, it could he doesn’t know where they rate on the Homeland Security scale, and just doesn’t want to say so.

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By Leefeller, September 11, 2008 at 9:28 am Link to this comment

Obama needs to take a crash course in intentionally not telling the truth, blunt lies seem to work best for McCain and Pailin.  If Obama watched and studied videos of Paiin telling some of her tall tails, how about the one, were she tells Washington to keep their bridge to nowhere, Obama could study and see how she keeps the professional poker or Pailn face without missing a beat,  also wearing glasses may help it is harder to see the eyes.

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By Wood, September 11, 2008 at 9:26 am Link to this comment

Ask Sarah Palin about the FEMA Concentration Camp that is large enough to prison 2 MILLION humans. Ask her where it is located. Ask McCain about the same FEMA PRISON CAMPS that are located in every State where he owns a home. Seven homes at last count. Recently asked, he could not give an immediate answer as to how many homes he owned. On two counts he looses. First count… can’t count to seven. Second count: A person who owns seven homes is disconnected from the every day man and woman working 60-70 hours a week just to put food on the table and fill the gas tank. But of course he feels their pain. Do I get A Hallelujah ? Hallelujah ! Can you feel the Love ?
Give me a Hallelujah !  Hallelujah !

Ask all Candidates for Presidential Office what is the Federal Agency “FICEN” that current President Mr. George Bush sign into order. They won’t tell you the truth that it is an agency [FICEN] located in Arlington, VA. which is the largest government run artificial-intelligence data base ever established.
FICEN has over 200 employees from the IRS, the FBI,the Secret Service, and the FDIC and works very closely with the BATF, the CIA, and the Defence Intelligence Agency. Can I get a Hallelujah ! Can you feel the Love !?

FINCEN MILITARY HIDDEN SIDE

The FINCEN MISSION is a United Nations/United States Program for a ” House to house search and seizure of property and arms.” A Separation and categorization
of men, women and children ( children ? ) as prisoners in large numbers,” especially those who will be considered by the government authorities as dangerous ( children ? )( get the drift? ) for the Law and Order” be cause they will not be ready to fully collaborate with the implementation of a New World Order,“and transfer to detention facilities of mentioned prisoners.” Ask all the Candidates what they know about ” FINCEN. ” Can I get A Hallelujah!? Can you feel the Love!? Have some cool aid.

Reference: http://educateyourself.org/en/uscconsentrationcamps28jun01.shtml

Yes our elected officials. People you can trust with “CHANGE” for sure.

Research,read,research,read ! Forget this ” He said, she said B.S.” You all are going to face the up and coming Fascist State , free chip included. Have some cool aid.

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By robert m puglia, September 11, 2008 at 8:32 am Link to this comment
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the thing is what it is. mcthing are contradicting themselves and each other in contortions worthy of cirque de soleil. it’s russ myers meets karl rove. it’s firesign theater. it’s business as usual.

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By felicity, September 11, 2008 at 8:30 am Link to this comment

Obama’s got to keep reminding voters that when they get McCain they get the whole bloody Republican Party.

There is a firm possibility that when and if the Party returns to power, the UN is not long for this world.  Given that adequate international cooperation is absolutely necessary to combat the likes of the Taliban/AQ, deep-sixing the only international body in place right now, would be close to an act of self-destruction.

If Americans still live in fear of another terrorist attack, and apparently the majority do, Obama’s got to lay out the most feasible way of defending against one, pointing out at the same time that the Republican Party either is clueless or it refuses to adopt the only successful way terrorism can be combatted and instead would actully work against international cooperation.

Such a message from Obama would obviously be very powerful today.

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By Lisa, September 11, 2008 at 7:28 am Link to this comment
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I am really tired of the Republicans treating Palin like a GENDER! It is ironic that they condoned the attacks against Hilary, but can not handle it for a Republican women.I am a female veteran, and I am happy that I was treated like a soldier, not a female soldier. Palin needs to roll with the punches. If she can talk the talk, she must be able to walk the walk!

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By Fahrenheit 451, September 11, 2008 at 5:02 am Link to this comment

@ Rus7355, September 11 at 2:47 am;

Thank you so much for responding to my post.

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By Fahrenheit 451, September 11, 2008 at 1:13 am Link to this comment

My fellow Americans; please prove me wrong when you go to the polls.  I have been saying most Americans are narrow minded, uneducated, racist, sexist, foolish and bigoted.  Please prove me wrong.  Hell, 8 more years of republican rule will kill me, never mind the country. 
Below is a link to an excellent article in the Asia Times;

Seven years on, three big 9/11 lies
By Muhammad Cohen
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JI11Ak01.html

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By yellowbird2525, September 11, 2008 at 12:53 am Link to this comment

their were folks talking about “setting up regulations” etc to make sure this wouldn’t happen again***THEY WERE IN PLACE folks: since the DEPRESSION! what is going on in this country is this: per CAPS (california) 550,000 more immigrants are coming in & being given jobs; the Pentagon: during ww11 during bond sale they swept overboard planes: the damaged & undamaged; every generation since then: they have built huge holes in the desert to “hide” brand new tents, motorcycles, everything folks: in order to say “we used all the $ & need more”; they consistently (and Congress backs them up) “lose equipment” which is on paper only: they pocket the $ folks; it’s considered “free money”; many “departments” like the “clean water” one est in 1996 as of 2007 had not conducted 1 single test yet $80m was “used”; they also launder $ back in books; claim “speechs” for Bill C.****remember the Clintons? the slimotics of them? he also was wanted for war crimes; and they stole over $200,000 of stuff from the White House: let go long time staff replacing with new hires working only 39 hours denying them health benefits; shredded all emails without reading; now it is: that is a good point, however we are going to blah blah blah; as long as they can FOOL people into THINKING they have a say; our Gov is run by the wealthy & the Corps; AGAINST the people of the USA; running to other countries by war Iraq; Afghanistan, now into Pakistan, in Colombia, already done it in Mexico & Canada; when India stood against the World Trade Agreement “suddenly” bombings started; we have oodles of “contractors” in Colombia; & the “trade agreement” there after Bill came back with $800,000 for Hillary’s campaign was presented to the citizens as being “signed” in 2006; both parties are the same; their agenda despite their “speechs” & pretended differences is being carried out now as they campaign; they claim they own the land (well I guess they do now huh) & they own the water; & Monsanto (sp) the most evil company on the planet gets it; go figure;

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By coolhanduke, September 10, 2008 at 10:22 pm Link to this comment

Dammit, Sheer. Every time you frame an issue in the context of McCain/Palin vs. Obama, you play into the hands of the corporate dog and pony show. To hell with John and Sarah. Ask Nader what the hell is going on. Quit lubricating the screwing. You should know better by now.

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By Opening Eyes, September 10, 2008 at 10:19 pm Link to this comment

It’s truly sad that an unknown can become so sensationalized.  What I first read about her was an editorial in the Jan 08 Anchorage Daily News about how un-Governor like her behavior was on a shock jock show. http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/295464.html
She gets other people to do the bad mouthing for her when someone doesn’t bend to her will.
She got help from the mayor of Wasilla and then ran against him, polarizing the campaign, making it about right to life and getting endorsements from a national organization.  Murkowski helped her out after she lost running as Lieutenant Governor, and then turned around and got his job.  Watch out McCain!
My favorite blog is this one:  Jesus Christ was a community organizer.  Pontius Pilate was a governor.
If the lies and distortions didn’t work, the GOP wouldn’t resort to it.  I wish people would look beyond their preconceived prejudices and see what’s really happening.  We have got to look like fools to the civilized world, making an election hinge on whether lipstick on a pig is a sexist remark.  I loved it when NPR aired McCain using the same analogy when he referred to Hilary Clinton and her health care reforms.
God help keep Sarah Palin from dealing with Puten in the next cold war the incubents are brewing up.

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By CJ, September 10, 2008 at 9:52 pm Link to this comment

Yes, Bob Reich remarked on “socialized capitalism.” Get a deal here! In America, home (or not quite, or not any more), to the most “free” of markets. Where your investment-dollars in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are socialistically guaranteed, not remotely ironically. National, so-called “democratic-capitalist” economies would long ago have collapsed were it not for endless socialist bail-outs. Some might recall Lee Iacoca pleading for bailing-out of Chrysler. Congress solemnly bailed out; as it did in the case of S&Ls;when Reagan was hysterically ranting about “welfare queens” living the high-life. So much for proclamations of “free” marketeers who actually—indeed cluelessly—believe the crap they propagate.

I can’t agree that McCain-Palin is clueless, much less McCain. Of course both are awful, unethical people by any humanist (Platonist, Kantian, Marxist, Chomskyian, et al.) standard. Not “clueless,” however, in the context of capitalist ideology. The American people are the ones who are truly clueless. Proof? Were they not, McCain would not be in contention, much less Palin, who got elected governor of Alaska. While McCain has continued to be reelected as senator from Arizona over and over and over. Despite never acting in the interest of Arizonans, as John Dean pointed out on “Background Briefing” just last Sunday.

What has McCain ever done? What’s Palin ever done? But brutalize? Except—in Palin’s case anyway—extract more from oil companies in truly socialist fashion? Would the rest of us in lower 49 got checks from big oil. Bigger ones, since that would amount to real socialism by means of market mechanics on a global-capitalist scale. Would every American owned ExxonMobil. Not as shareholders but as citizens. Would Saudi citizens, Iraqi citizens, Iranian citizens, Russian citizens, EVERY citizen of EVERYwhere,  owned—nationalistically, if that’s to be the name of the game—oil and whatever else there is to extracted from respective geo-political territories, and then to sell in the not-ever-in-human-history “free” market. (Anyone recall actual history of fencing off of commons? What “free” market? According to what actual historical events?

Corporate interests like ExxonMobil would be returned to temporary status—so long as they acted only on behalf of citizenry, lest charter be yanked. Not by this hardly “Supreme” Court. More like Weasel Court, what with high regard for stare decisis over simple reason, which would—by virtue of simple reason—be in the common interest far over and above rule of law on behalf of one class. But I forget that class doesn’t exist in America, land of dream-on.

McCain, the obscenely ambitious—in collusion with Palin, the just plain obscene—is hardly clueless. We love and adore them both in our dreaming on. No matter unemployment: officially 6.1%, actually 12%. Who cares? They too are clueless as they are made to regard themselves as responsible for their plight. It’s their fault, and they shall vote for John McCain or Barack Obama—out of feeling guilty if for no other reason. Billions upon billions for wars and maintenance of military bases around the world; nada for them, or for veterans. All are guilty.

What governments do in other states do is blatantly criminal. Everyone knows. In our case, government is criminal in the most insidious ways. Forever paying cheap lip-service while serving corporate masters, regardless of political-party affiliation and in collusion (as a systemic matter, not as a matter of conspiracy) with big media that, even when they get it (as today with lipstick-on-a-pig non-“story”) still don’t get it. Because they just don’t get it. Because to appear human is to be square, to be an idealistic, sentimental fool, who doesn’t get “how it really works.” Really, really?

America—culturally and politically—has become a funhouse of mirrors wherein even the “exit” sign is just one more (convenient—self-fulfilling-prophecy-wise) illusion.

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By joey, September 10, 2008 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment
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Obama was ridiculed as a community organizer at the RNC convention
Gene Upshaw was honored as a union organizer on every jersey of the NFL on Sunday

Gene Upshaw understood that balance and compromise are what made our country really great
Sarah , John, Rudy, the young republicans and Rove will never understand this simple concept.

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By Tony Wicher, September 10, 2008 at 8:42 pm Link to this comment

By Paolo, September 10 at 6:58 pm #


The Palin nomination underscores a severe problem with this whole concept of democracy.
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This is a big problem all right, maybe a fatal one. If the people are stupid enough, there is no hope. Obama is banking on the proposition that you can’t fool the people all the time, and this is that time. We must have faith in the people. There is an 85% right track - wrong track number. The people do have an idea that things are bad, and they haven’t completely forgotten which party has been in power for the last eight years.

We must have faith in the people and say so as Obama does. There is no alternative. Anything else helps the Republicans.

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By Sepharad, September 10 at 4:15 pm

Sepharad,

This is just not true. Obama is getting warmed up. He is throwing punch after punch and THEY ARE LANDING. The lipstick is rapidly falling off the pig. I’m telling you, Obama is not Kerry, Gore or Dukakis. Obama is Muhammad Ali. Stop with this defeatist crap and start rooting and cheering for all you’re worth!

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By Paolo, September 10, 2008 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment

The Palin nomination underscores a severe problem with this whole concept of democracy.

Most readers of Truthdig have a devotion to issues and ideas, which is entirely commendable. Unfortunately, the readers of Truthdig represent only a tiny portion of the American electorate.

Most voters simply do not respond to discussion of issues and ideas. Sorry folks, but them’s the facts. A far greater number really do respond to range-of-the-moment impressions: Palin’s hair style, her glasses, McCain’s story of being a POW, hunting moose—you name it.

Observe how much time is spent, after every debate, talking about who “looked presidential.” What the heck does that even mean?

This is just one reason why I’m not a big fan of “democracy,” which is just two wolves and a sheep debating about what’s for dinner. “Democracy” just means the ruling class gets to further justify its depredations by citing a “mandate” from the almighty “majority.” As if a majority vote ever determined right from wrong.

For more in-depth analysis of this problem, study the Briggs-Meyer personality types. You will find that “rationals” only represent fifteen percent of the population. Republicans realize this and play to the numbers, appealing to base emotions like fear and taking good, firm stands in defense of motherhood. This approach finds few fans among the fifteen percent of “rational” personalities, but has great traction with “traditionalists,” who represent about forty percent of the population.

That’s the naked truth, folks.

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By DoctorK, September 10, 2008 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment

Humorless people, these Repugs…they sure can toss the cowpies but get so offended when someone sends them a few. After watching, listening to all the same speeches by the McShame/Palin team (can’t avoid them if you watch the news), I wonder where Mike Myers is…put a white-haired skull cap on him and poof! It’s Dr. Evil whose voice oddly reminds me of McShame just as Palin’s is “Fargo meets Ellen Burstyn”.  Bring on the “laser”!

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By omop, September 10, 2008 at 7:33 pm Link to this comment

This election is not about issues said the man. Its about personalities…the media seems to agree wholeheartedly witness the amount of coverage of Miss. Sarah’s hairdo, ability to skin a moose, shoot a bear raise a family and watch hockey.

If the chosen C. Gibson from ABC news does not ask Miss Sarah at least these three questions: What three issues are uppermost on American’s minds and how would/should the McCain administration resolve these issues? He should be replaced by The Simpson’s Krusty the Clown.

Some bookies are already giving odds of 5/33 that sometime during the first 4 yours of the McCain/Palin administration that Miss Palin is likely to appear as CinC on the deck of an aircraft carrier either in Norfolk or San Diego and proclaim another “Mission Accomplished” and “Americans are Ready to Rapture.”

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By Matt Kendrick, September 10, 2008 at 7:10 pm Link to this comment
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Where did this quote come from? It’s hard to believe. Send it to the Obama camp. We don’t need anyone this ignorant in office at this time of crisis.

Referring to the government’s bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Palin opined that the two had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers,”   

ha, how stupid is that.  Go shoot some moose.

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By Sepharad, September 10, 2008 at 5:15 pm Link to this comment
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I wish we were back in the Wyoming wilderness with our two horses—their combined IQs may be higher than that of whoever is running the Democratic campaign. When Hillary didn’t get the nod, I was disappointed because I thought she would have nailed the Presidency if she’d had the chance to run against McCain, and turned things around “from Day 1.” Still, like a good little doobie, I’ve been trying to herd other unhappy Hillary supporters into the Obama camp. Now, though, Joe Biden is the only one keeping energizer bunny Palin from putting McCain’s whole campaign over the top.

The election is Obama’s to lose, and I’m afraid he’s doing just that by not aggressively pushing ISSUES. I don’t care which animal wears what lipstick or what old fish is wrapped in paper or how McCain and Palin are stealing Obama’s “change” slogan ... and neither do the American people. Obama has to start winning voters, and that’ll only happen if he shows some passion and specificity articulating how he is going to start fixing our country, which Bush and company have trashed almost beyond repair, how he is going to tackle each and every issue in the order of importance people attach to it. Polls suggest the Iraq war has receded a bit but the economy is quite visibly falling apart so maybe he should start there and STOP discussing who is the real owner of “change”.

Admittedly, I wasn’t a great fan of Obama’s because I thought he had little to offer Americans except a classy, brainy image (and maybe the name of his tailor). Now, though I still think he’s just as bought and paid for as the Darth Vader side, I do believe that he has a much better, much more sincere vision for the future of this country than the opposition. But it’s past time for him start spelling out what he is going to do, and destroy the McCain/Palin smoke machine with the power of particulars before the delude every uncertain voter in the country.  Biden is showing Obama the way by, to take just one example, delicately, courteously filleting McCain’s secret weapon Palin by contrasting her concern for “special” kids with the Republican platform’s opposition to stem-cell research. Obama has to do it with the #1 issues, pouring some of his trademark eloquence into statements that powerfully grab Americans’ attention and allegiance. He’s gotta address our hopes and fears as if he cares, as if he will move heaven and earth to do every single thing it takes ... From Day 1.

I wish James Carville would shake Obama awake, give him a strong cup of coffee and explain that as worthless as Palin is substantively, she’s shrewd enough to connect with a lot of voters and is well on her clueless way to stealing more than his slogan.

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By Glendon Wayne, September 10, 2008 at 4:51 pm Link to this comment
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Please Foreclose on the Rogue

Please foreclose on the rogue
debit masters
Please foreclose on the rogue

Please foreclose on the greed backed green
the fascist fad sure is running on lean
the plunder maverick is Johnny the mean
the celebrity one is Sarah the good

Double talk is so in vogue
you’d think the GOP was hosting change
so merge the madness with the chant
pick up the tempo of the rant
USA USA USA

A mob just like the KKK
chanting slogans like talking tongues
merging madness with victims sons
doing the drill to the thrill
of the enduring chant
drill baby drill

bomb rebuild & feed
empire is what we need
bomb rebuild & feed

Please foreclose on the rogue
debit masters
Please foreclose on the rogue

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By KDelphi, September 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

Especially now that it is taxpayer money—shouldnt we be able to stop the ARMs from re-setting? We have every right.

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By jackpine savage, September 10, 2008 at 4:28 pm Link to this comment

The “federalization” of the mortgage giants…

While i give credit to Mr. Scheer for calling a spade a spade throughout the article, i don’t like the sound of the word “federalization” at all. 

It is socialization, that bogey man of the Right.  As they say, you can’t put lipstick on a pig, right?  Worse, the taxpayers are on the hook just in time to be left holding the bag.  Freddie and Fannie have some debt coming due; moreover, the bulk of the ARM mortgages are going to be reset over the next two years or so.  Not a few economists thin that the ARM resets will be much worse than the subprimes because they will affect the middle/uppermiddle classes.

What will Gov. Palin do when Freddie and Fannie actually do become a huge strain on the American taxpayer?  Wait, i know, she’ll borrow some money from the Chinese or the Saudis or someone…you know, America First!

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By rage, September 10, 2008 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment
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Well, now, face it, Gramps didn’t go to all that effort to twist off his wedding band, use that much of his most potent Viagra, sweat his suit out physically contorting himself in that many cramped positions on the last seat of his scenicruiser, risking detriment to his health his moronic surrogates were never going to be able to explain to the American people, had he died, thoroughly vetting Palin, just to wind up defending her not being a rocket scientist. Hell! Rove never brought up that she might need to actually think or know anything. Palin can’t tie her shoes. There! Happy now? Does she really have to, you know, like, well, know a lot of useless academic and scientific crap to be Vice President? What do VEEPS do all day anyway? Hell, most of the time no one can even account for Cheney. No one is going to tell Gramps Dick Vader is working for America all that time he’s gone missing. That’s just bull!

Un-freaking-belieavable! Who’d've guessed these irritating, whining, mental recessionists Phil Gram went off about actually demanded that VEEP candidates have fully functioning brains with IQs measurable by more than magic 8-balls, Ouiji boards, tarot cards, devining rods, Oprah’s secret Dr. Phil, or the reading of tea leaves or moose entrails? Gramps just swears they just let any voter have something to say in this crap. First, they have the nerve to count all his houses, now this! Damn these griping paupers!

Rove said that all the candy heiress needed was to memorize the talking points, a Bible, a love of guns, a churchy dress, fancy shoes, to smell clean, and looks that will draw Jimmy Swaggert from a brothel to suck her toes. Rove promised Gramps no one was going to ever find out she was so cracked she even made Dumya look like a Rhodes scholar, instead of the road lizard he usually is. After all, Rove assured him all vetting was strictly forbidden!

For crying out loud! Miss Congeniality was only intended to be that more eyepleasing antithesis to an opponent that idiot Rove told him she would definitely be facing in the VEEP cat fights of 2008, a carefully crafted spectacle absolutely guaranteed to distract America from Obama’s later merciless thrashing of some beastly old befuddled barnicle who’s listing badly way out his depth. Gramps had no idea Rove was actually telling him the ObamaNation was dead serious about feeding his coy Barracuda pet to Joey ‘the Shark’ Biden during the VEEP debates.

Queue the theme to Jaws! Dun-dun dun-dun dun-dun dun-dun dun-dun!

OMG!!! WTF!!!! AUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Poor Sarah! My soulmate! Oh, Lord!!! I can’t look! Karl?!!!”

“I’ve already taken care of everything, sir. I’ve rubber-stamped your signature onto an official campaign condolence expressing your grief and bereavment for this loss of the election to the Palin Family, sir.”

“Get ol’ Magic Drawers on the blower, I guess.”

“Governor Romney awaits you, wearing the wet suit, in the conference room, sir.”

“Good boy, Karl!”

Queue the theme to Jaws! Dun-dun dun-dun dun-dun dun-dun dun-dun!

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By joey, September 10, 2008 at 3:38 pm Link to this comment
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Notice Sarah Palin is a distraction, forget about Sarah
The GOP are completely incapable of finding a candidate with any qualifications
A third term with no leadership or bad leadership or Bush leadership will destroy the country
Karl Rove would rather lose the country than lose this election.

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By Ricardo, September 10, 2008 at 3:10 pm Link to this comment
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Voters may have been momentarily blinded by Moose and Squirrel, but will get their eyesite back in time to make the correct choice.  It is still going to be a long winter for a lot of people out of work, no home, and huge fuel bills. (or is it Moosillini and lil’ Napolean)

Hillary fans, remember what she said:  “...is it about me or about my country?”

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By tyler, September 10, 2008 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment
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i think its noteworthy that bill clinton was the person who signed off on gramm’s piece of legislation in ‘96.  i’ve always said that americans are way too quick to praise bill clinton, and hated the possibility of hillary winning the dem nomination because it looks a little funny to me when 2 families would’ve been running the whitehouse for 24+ years. 

that being said, i agree with scheer when he says that there are a lot of dem reps in congress and in the senate who pander to the fiscal policies of the republicans.

dissolve the government, introduce some other parties to the the system and ALLOW them to participate.  The constitution never called for a two-party system, quite the opposite in fact.

the government of the US has become the largest and most elaborate organised crime ring in history.  what has allowed them to become this is the ability to change the laws to favor their policies, giving them the ability to say straight-faced that they aren’t breaking the law.

it comes down to the debate between letter of law and spirit of law.  sure the gov’t is following the letter of the law, but they are their laws created to benefit them and are unfair to the masses. 

until americans, particularly the backwoods, poor, WHITE republicans who ironically are being f@#*ked the most by the very people they so staunchly support, realise the reality of the situation, things won’t change, not even on obama’s watch.

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By Wood, September 10, 2008 at 2:42 pm Link to this comment

Can’t see the Forest for the trees ? What makes you all think there is going to be any change for the good when the United States is becoming a Fascist State ? Have some more cool aid.

What really is Homeland Security ? It surely isn’t your security for sure. It is in place to control you..yes you. Under newly enacted laws by means of the Homeland Security Act and The Patriot Act, government troops dressed in black trooper gear can and has broken down doors (no warrant needed) wiretap your phone and computer, empty your bank account, persecute you and throw you in jail with no trial, monitor your every move and the list goes on and on. What are you going to say when the government wants to implant a computer chip on your body ? Oh sure…put it here. Have some more cool aid.

And by some strange logic [or lack of] people seem to think that everything is going to be just fine as the government currently continues to lie to you, tell you that 911 wasn’t a set up, cannot account for Trillions of ” Missing Dollars ” from the Pentagon expenditures of your tax dollars, spend your tax dollars on more Black Operations under the FEMA banner that one day they will use against you, spend your tax dollars on research into more black Opps alien space craft development at Area 51 that the government says does not exist,  (NASA cover up) work with organised crime to profit from money laundering and drugs imported with the help of the C.I.A. , pay off Federal Judges who rule on the governments favor, use FEMA to build more and more concentration camps ( under the guise to house illegals and terrorist ), import more foreign troops and military material and weapons to control you, take over and occupy other foreign countries who never had WMD’s , spend billions of your tax dollars to feed the greed of the Privately Owned Federal Reserve (not a branch of the Federal Government), make oil deals that will make you pay through the nose at the gas pump ( while the CEO’S pocket millions of dollars), bail you out of the mortgage melt down that in the final analysis you as a tax payer will have to put the bill. Who are going to elect that is going to turn around and stop all these evil covert plans and tell you the truth ? Hint. No one. Have some more cool aid.

And you go on and on about who is the best candidate is ? Get real. The multi national corporate controlled media has you believing all their lies and spins also. Boy folks…you need to read,read,and read some more. Remember this.

” Bad things happen when good people stay silent.”

Go to:

educate-yourself.org   truthattack.org

911scholars.org   fromthewilderness.com

truthrising.com   gizaearthstar.com

alexjones.com     lewrockwell.com

Read, research, read, research, and read some more while you still can before the information is closed
down. That to is in the coming future.

Wood

Don’t be caught up in the web of ingnorance. Because that is what they are counting on.

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By mrmb, September 10, 2008 at 2:39 pm Link to this comment
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Sandra,

Dont get ur hopes high. The only good thing out of 8 years of lies, deciet, corruption, murder is that slightly over 50% of the population has begun to wake up. There is a long way to go my dear.

We the americans are easily manipulated, are very gullible, have no sense of rigt and wrong and just dont think any more.

By the way I am willing to bet that the Obama admin is gonna be not much different but I hope I am wrong.

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By Charles Marion, September 10, 2008 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment
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It’s really scary how so much of the country is willing to put both the “Red Phone” and The “Red Button” in the hands of a feable little old man and an equally paranoid moron.
I am not voting for Obama,
I am voting for America and Obama just happens to the one who is more concerned about our (we the people..) well being and safety.
He also happens to be the only one running for president who has had his wife, patriotism, ethnicity, religion, and Race challenged, attacked, and insulted for 19 months, and through it all he shown true character, honor, courage, and grace under fire.
Americans really need to take a long hard look at what is coming out of the McCain camp. Palin and McCain cry “Sexism” or “unpatriotic” every time someone questions their ability, experience and character, this is unbelievably childish and we should be asking; If they can’t handle honest criticism here, how in the world are they going to handle:
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev
Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin
Venezuela President Hugo Rafael Chávez
I don’t want to got to war every time some world leader disagrees with McCain or Palin, can you imagine Palin and that strangled cat voice talking to Ahmadinejad (shudder)

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By G.Anderson, September 10, 2008 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment

McCain is a Bigger liar than Bush

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/sep/10/johnmccain.sarahpalin

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By wildflower, September 10, 2008 at 1:13 pm Link to this comment

Re: Ignorance Is Bliss

I suspect the majority of McCain’s supporters simply don’t care about the financial meltdown of the U.S. economy.  For some time now, the Republican Party has operated like an alcoholic driving under the influence, except their drunk is caused by too much war, greed, religion and hopes for Armageddon.

For the minority of Republicans that have concerns, and understand the role the Republican Party has played in creating this nightmare, they would do well to reflect on the advice the Reverend Billy Graham gave to the woman who was feeling guilty for kicking her alcoholic husband out of the house:

“. . . if you truly love your husband, you want what is best for him—and what is best is for him to face his problems and deal with them. But will this happen if you simply ask him to return? In all likelihood, he’ll insist you stop your nagging (if that was actually an issue), but beyond that - he’ll probably just keep living the way he always has, and nothing will be solved. Don’t, in other words, become what psychologists call an “enabler”—someone who just helps a person keep practicing his or her bad habit.”

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/graham/375593_billy909.html

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By nativechef, September 10, 2008 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

From the sounds of this McCain and his campaign manager obviously don’t have much hope for THEIR VP choice if they are insinuating that Obama called Palin a “pig in lipstick”.  Leaves one scratching their head in wonder.  We’ve been reduced to a damn High School popularity contest.  I’ve seen STUPID in my day, but this has got to take the proverbial cake.  Then again maybe the McCain camp is on the defensive because someone discovered their ultra secret “secret”. 

The next time they roll through my neck of the woods I’ll make sure to break out my inflatable Pink Floyd pig and put lipstick on it and parade it around the speech area.  That ought to go over well.  Pink Pigs in Lipstick for everyone!!!!!!!!

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By wildflower, September 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment

Re: troublesum

You’re right, troublesum. I guess McCain forgot? . . . A link for the quote is:

“Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton’s health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt.__McCain said Clinton’s proposal was “eerily” similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993.

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said, “but it’s still a pig.”

A common expression, right?

McCain surely wasn’t calling Clinton a pig.

After all, McCain’s former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called “Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/a-piggish-debat.html

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By troublesum, September 10, 2008 at 12:12 pm Link to this comment

Kdelphi
Ok issues.  The corruption in the banking industry is so mind boggling it’s almost beyond comprehenion.  Who is going to do anything about it?  Nobody in Washington that’s for sure.  Nothing short of complete economic collapse is going to change anything and who wants that?

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By Aegrus, September 10, 2008 at 12:02 pm Link to this comment

“He’s Worse”

I agree, and it is because “worse” equates to a neoconservative wet dream of more war for profit, expanded government surveillance, continued redistribution of wealth upward, continued deregulation, enabling of economic cartels (such as OPEC), higher taxes on you and me while low-to-no taxes on America’s wealthiest people. Increased disparity of income, education and health between the classes.

This is the neoconservative doctrine, and this is what McCain stands for.

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By KDelphi, September 10, 2008 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment

Who the hell cares??!! “Obama called Palin a pig” “No , she called herself one” blah, blah. Gawd,cant we PLEASE focus on some issue. The article was about the mortgage crisis. Got any opinions there?
I dont think that its “clear” at al that here is an"omniscience” of the cosmos. I see the same thing, and come to a very contrary opinion.

We’ll all know, someday. In the meantime—our country is dying and taking too much of hte planet with it.

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By allan scheer, September 10, 2008 at 11:53 am Link to this comment
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The problem for Democrats, and Barack , is not Sarah Palin.
It is clearly their inability to counter her personna without diving into the gutter. They have stepped into the trap.

Her comment is absolutely true, no matter what Bobby says.
This is clearly a situation of private money guaranteed by taxpayers.
Check out all the Democrats who have profited.
Check out who sits at the head of the committee in Congress, Chris Todd.
The same Chris Todd who has been promising a response for 2 months regarding his won VIP mortgages.
Has the Democratic Congress cared to look under their own rug recently?
Change in this election?
If change means bringing Obama , who has voted 90 % of the time along with his Democratic buddies, into the White House, it means bringing in someone who is from a Congress that actually has a lower approval rating than the man in the White House now.
Sarah Palin is the real and only change this year, as two days after the speech at the Temple of Obama ,the response of Americans made it clear.
Michelle, I wouldn’t be measuring for curtains.

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By troublesum, September 10, 2008 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

TweetPetite
Carry that line of thought just a little further.  If he’s lost control of the campaign, he’s lost control of the executive branch if he wins.  The neo-cons will still be in charge.  I just knew they would never walk away from power and they found a way to do it without cancelling the election and declaring martial law.

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By KDelphi, September 10, 2008 at 11:28 am Link to this comment

The stuff about Phil Gramm and Clinton are absolutely true. Both Obama and McCain took huge campaign donations from Wall St. and Hedge Funds. They have to , as long as we dont have public finanacing.

I would not cry sexism , if I were Palin. There HAS been alot of sexism in this election (I was truly amazed, deny it at your own peril), but, Palin gave up any claim to the “lipstick” argument, when she called herself a pitbull with lipstick! Dumbass person. I wouldnt denegrate her as a woman—just as a pitbull.

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By Rich in Montana, September 10, 2008 at 11:20 am Link to this comment
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I’m voting for Obama not because he’s perfect but because I like him. And because I predicted to a GOP friend back during the 04 Dem convention that, look out, Obama will be the next president. And because it would do much good, here and around the world, just having an American president with the name Barack Hussein Obama. And because, with all DUE respect, McCain is McPain and Palin, already a trance-bound dupe and shill, will make a major fool of herself in the next few weeks.

But really, who has the power? Personally, how can I control outcomes and change the world to my satisfaction for a few decades before the body disintegrates? And will anyone else –  say, a president – do this for me?

In my opinion, based on observation of the world “out there” and the psycho-emotional world “in here”, it is futile to take this all so seriously. Yes, any of us can effect some degree of change. Make “what is” a better what is, if that’s possible. But relative to the whole cosmos, the effect is teeny weeny. And that goes for the Illuminati, too, and every ego power-tripper in between me and them.

Clearly there is an omniscience running things. The planets, stars, electrons, photons, air, water, etc. move together in a spontaneous, synchronous symphony according to laws and patterns that are beyond our linear logic to comprehend. And if that isn’t enough, toss in the phenomena of “learning” and “evolving” to make this grand and subtle mystery even more mind-blowing.

This is what is, why fight it? It’s both vast and intimate. Tag, you’re it! Play with it, play your part to the fullest. Enjoy the apparently opposing forces and values of the myriad polar partners. Shake off the suspicion, cynicism and fear and LIVE NOW. Ultimately, what else can you and I do?

If you enjoy worrying, or can’t help but worry, then worry! Complain too, by all means. But I ask you, without investing in all the stories, the hopes, the fears, the victimhood, what would living be like? How would it feel right now?

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By TweetPetite, September 10, 2008 at 11:15 am Link to this comment

The answer to all the outrage over the lipstick quote should be:

You made the connection to Palin. We didn’t. Hey, if the shoe fits ...

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By TweetPetite, September 10, 2008 at 11:13 am Link to this comment

Everything that has happened at and since the Republican convention convinces me that McCain has lost control of his campaign.

Whether or not you think McCain is an honorable man, it is absolutely clear that before Palin he was dawdling, drifting. And that since Palin there has been an onslaught of Republican lies, position-stealing and fake outrage which smells exactly like 2000 and 2004 - except that it’s even worse now, if possible. It is simply not believable that McCain engineered this change. You have to conclude that the Rovians and the Swiftboaters have taken over, and that McCain’s acceding to Palin’s nomination is what brought them on board. That says a lot about Palin, and McCain too. Doesn’t anyone wonder what kind of president he’ll make when he can’t even control his own campaign? Is it possible to believe him when he promises that he’ll “change” the system by which Republicans have governed? Isn’t it perfectly obvious from the nature of his campaign that absolutely nothing Republican has changed, or will ever change?

And why, for God’s sake, are the Democrats not saying so - straight out?

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By troublesum, September 10, 2008 at 11:05 am Link to this comment

Tony,
I just read a news article on msnbc which stated that McCain used the expression in reference to Hillary’s health care plan.  They didn’t link to it but I think it must have been at one of the republican debates when a question about health care came up.

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By troublesum, September 10 at 9:57 am #


There is nothing in Obama’s open-book life that would ever even suggest that he would call anyone a pig.  On the contrary he is almost too polite to be in national politics the way is today.
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He won’t, but we don’t have to hesitate! McCain and Palin are both PIGS. WITH LIPSTICK.

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By troublesum, September 10 at 9:50 am #


McCain used the line “lipstick on a pig…” during the primary campaign in reference to Hillary’s health care plan.  No one accused him of making an offensive remark about Hillary.
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Hey, troublesum, I didn’t know that! Do you have a link for that? Republicans are really defensive about this lipstick shit. “Pit bull with lipstick?” Great! Let’s smear it all over them.

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By Mike, September 10, 2008 at 11:00 am Link to this comment
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Whether they are clueless or not - It does not matter.  The only thing that does is the 1st impression on the sheeple by FOX, or the other corporatist media outlets that they watch/read.  They do not watch/read us - They are the majority of American voters.  That is why McCain is “neck-and-neck,” when he shouldn’t be within 20 points.

Don’t you get it yet?!?  All successful political conspiracies are called.. “The Government of…”  As Rove & FOX, et al have proven over and over again, and are still proving.

“We’re Going To Lose This Frickin’ Thing”  ...is a way-too-late wake-up call.

Am I angry?  Oh yeah.
You may find this rant entertaining,
Yes - I’m Angry  (take note when it was written.)

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By troublesum, September 10, 2008 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

There is nothing in Obama’s open-book life that would ever even suggest that he would call anyone a pig.  On the contrary he is almost too polite to be in national politics the way is today.

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By troublesum, September 10, 2008 at 10:50 am Link to this comment

McCain used the line “lipstick on a pig…” during the primary campaign in reference to Hillary’s health care plan.  No one accused him of making an offensive remark about Hillary.  The republicans are paranoid about Palin’s lack of experience so everything is all about her.  Because she used the word lipstick in her acceptance speech republicans now own the word.  Obama was talking about McCain’s economic and tax policies and there’s no way it could be construed as being a reference to Palin.  He used the expression exactly as McCain did about Hillary’s health care plan.

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By Eric L. Prentis, September 10, 2008 at 10:24 am Link to this comment
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The United States is a plutocracy controlled by the rich and powerful for the benefit of the rich and powerful. The Republican party does the plutocracy’s bidding, controlled by such men as James Dobson, Richard Land, Tony Perkins and Karl Rove. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are ignorant pawns in the scripted political campaign and told to act the part of mavericks and change agents which of course is pure bunk. The main stream corporate media (MSCM), controlled by the plutocracy, use manipulation and propaganda to get Republicans elected. The only hope at all for the non-rich is to vote Democratic to somewhat offset the control the plutocracy has on the USA and our lives.

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By Big E, September 10, 2008 at 10:23 am Link to this comment

Republicans are doing what they always do when they have no issues to run on:

culture war,
‘us vrs them’ identity wars,
fear
race
xenophobia
etc.

no big surprise here

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By Tony Wicher, September 10, 2008 at 10:01 am Link to this comment

By Wood, September 10 at 7:06 am #


When are you people going to wake up as to the reality of who controls your government. Obama and McCain are just stooges ( stooge elected ) who will do the bidding of the worlds most powerful and rich. Can you say the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, and the Illuminati?
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Wood,

Your paranoia is doing nothing but help the Republicans. If I didn’t think the Bilderberg Group, etc. were bullshit, I would say you must be working for them.

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By Tony Wicher, September 10, 2008 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

Whether you put lipstick on a pig or a pit bull, the results aren’t pretty

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By Blackspeare, September 10, 2008 at 9:56 am Link to this comment

troublesum…

Why thank you for asking.  My wife will be just fine and recovered quickly when I told her she will have four years to gear up for the Palin-Clinton campaign in 2012!  The only question is, who will be their running mates??!!

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By Rad Chopra, September 10, 2008 at 9:53 am Link to this comment
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It does not matter if Sarah Palin has a clue about this or that. She is a star, a charismatic warrior queen who connects directly with “the deep heart’s core” of the ordinary person. Stop nit-picking, and understand what is happening.

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By Big B, September 10, 2008 at 9:39 am Link to this comment

Thanks felicity, for the life of me I could not remember the name of that act.
Guess I’ve been watching to much TV.

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By Big B, September 10, 2008 at 9:35 am Link to this comment

Blackspeare, you are correct! I have been home the last couple of weeks and have watched the morning news. It has literally been a McCain and palin love in on Faux news and MSNBC. CNN has been the worst. Nothing but that shill John Roberts interviewing the likes of Tony Perkins and Ralph Reed, without a liberal voice in site.(I would however watch Kiran Chetry interview a squash, she’s preetty!) It took most of the day yesterday for them to even mention Barry! And this morning he earned mention only because CNN was helping McCain decry Barry’s “lipstick and pig” comment.
Headline news has turned into a southern hicks wetdream. Pretty girls, reading news stories about waterskying squirrels and NASCAR. It’s fox news for people with ADD.
Even the weather channel has gone more hollywood! They walk around with a constant hard-on reporting the latest hurricane.
Thank heaven I got my satellite dish back. I can at least see democracy now or free speech tv.
Funny how no cable companies carry any of the liberal based channels.

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By felicity, September 10, 2008 at 9:18 am Link to this comment

EXCEPT - Glass-Steagall (1933), which separated investment banking from commercial banking, was repealed in 1999 (Repub Congress, signed by Clinton, perhaps the doing of Rubin but that’s been argued).  With the repeal there was little or no defense against speculation left in place. 

It’s clear, however, that across the board Republicans would heartily agree with Wm. Vanderbilt’s famous reply to keeping open a railroad line between NY and New Haven ‘for the benefit of the public’, “The public be damned.”

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By Ed, September 10, 2008 at 8:37 am Link to this comment
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It’s always about money, isn’t it? As long as the economy performs, everyone is happy.

Does it bother anyone that Palin opposed Alaska’s Ballot Measure 4 - The Clean Water Initiative? Now that the measure has failed, Pebble Mine is closer to mining upstream of Bristol Bay using toxic chemicals that could (and eventually will) wipe-out the wild salmon spawning habitat and pollute the bay.

But, hey, the mine will create jobs and allow more Alaskans to buy Chinese made trinkets at Walmart. Nothing like making the quick dollar off a cyanide-spewing gold mine. The salmon be damned. It’s the economy that matters.

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By AS, September 10, 2008 at 8:30 am Link to this comment
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Thank you Mr.  for yet another attempt to educate us; I do hope, that all of the future voters are still open-minded and willing to learn!

Only in the business of politics could “ignorance is bliss,” be repeatedly practiced without well deserved punishment! Can anyone imagine that a relatively young, questionably-educated, grossly inexperienced, apparently IGNORANT mother of FIVE children, could be hired to be a manager of a local grocery store?

For all we know, as a 72 Y/O man, Mr. McCain could easily say that he does not REMEMBER of being “consistently lined up with Gramm in his deregulation crusade,” and millions of already brain-washed voters would understand that because most people of that age have impaired memory! Likewise, people of Senator McCain’s age, are not expected to “LEARN much from his previous involvement with the savings-and-loan debacle about the risks to consumers in unregulated banking,” or from the Iraq war debacle, for that matter! 

This is why most people are RETIRED by the time they reach Senator McCain’s age, for human beings who could neither REMEMBER, nor LEARN, could not possibly do well in any line of work!

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By troublesum, September 10, 2008 at 8:28 am Link to this comment

Another issue that McCain and Palin are hopelessly ignorant about is the situation in Afganistan.  The west will pay a terrible price for the Bush/Cheney/McCain obscession with Iraq which has allowed the various terrorist factions to regroup and strengthen.  Yesterday a CIA analyst in an interview on msnbc said that the resurgence of terroist groups in Afganistan was going to be a major problem for the west for years to come because they were training caucasian males in their training camps and getting them ready to carry out terrorist acts in Europe and America.  The five year war in Iraq has been a total waste of time which should have been spent dealing with the real terrorist threat in Afganistan.

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By blueshift, September 10, 2008 at 8:18 am Link to this comment

And why would the press report any of the Obama’s soft-talk muttering? He’s an empty suit with nothing to say. But his actions are talking loudly, and he’s begiining to look like another four years of Bush, too. Bush Lite: Obama has not only signed the eavesdropping (telecom immunity) bill, he now hints that he will extend Bush’s middle class tax increase for at least a bit.

(That oughta get him some big coprporate donations, don’t ya think? Maybe he should hang out a sign: “For Sale. Cheap.” Do I sound disillusioned? Well I am.)

Signed, former Obama enthusiast. Now not very sure about Obama at all. (Not that I’ll vote for McCain. Maybe I’ll just stay home.)

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By Alan, September 10, 2008 at 8:08 am Link to this comment
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As an outsider looking in I dispair at the mentality of the American voter.  The good news is this, Should McInsane and his hunting partnet get into the White House it will be the final nail in the coffin of America.  There will be at two more wars to deal with plus the unfinished other two wars.  The financial situation will finally implode. And it will bring down the American Empire. So let it be, the world is tired of the US and it’s hegemony.

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By Wood, September 10, 2008 at 8:06 am Link to this comment

When are you people going to wake up as to the reality of who controls your government. Obama and McCain are just stooges ( stooge elected ) who will do the bidding of the worlds most powerful and rich. Can you say the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, and the Illuminati?

These groups do not have the best of intentions for you or your family. Not only the U.S. Government but ALL governments are soon to be under their control. A New World Order at the reins of these groups as they continue to start wars, remove your Constitutional your rights, limiting your freedoms all under the smoke and mirrors of blaming everything on the ” terrorists ” while getting you ready to become a poor controlled robot servant.

I see the wide open starry eyed look on peoples faces as they look up from the floor of both Conventions.. Democratic and Republican to see their god like Saviors as if they were witnessing the return of one from the Heavens.

I don’t understand why you are not burning mad at Bush and his Fascist Police State who is using FEMA
in the U.S. to control you and your loved ones in the future. I’m talking prison camps that are built and guarded under the FEMA lie. Just look up to what happened to Germany as Hitler sold his bill of goods to the German people a lot of empty promises, while in the mean time jailing, killing all those who who resist his evil desires for power and control over the world.

You need to research and learn about the New World Order and how it is going to effect YOU !

You want truth ?

Try this site: educate-yourself.org
Links at the top of the page. Click on these links.

Bush Family, New World Order, FEMA, U.S. Concentration Camps

Come out of the ether folks…your being sold a bill of goods and led over a cliff ! Why am I telling you this ? It’s called concern for your brother and sister as HUMANS.

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By troublesum, September 10, 2008 at 7:59 am Link to this comment

Blackspeare,
How terrible that your wife was offended.  Is she going to be ok?

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By thebeerdoctor, September 10, 2008 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

here is a link that of course I hope works:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/opinion/10dowd.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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By Blackspeare, September 10, 2008 at 7:44 am Link to this comment

Is it just me or do I sense that the media is focused almost entirely on McCain/Palin.  It appears, at this point, that McCain may have hit a home run with the selection of Palin.  And anymore gaffes from Obama like referencing lipstick and pigs could be his demise.  Even my wife, a militant Hillary supporter, took umbrage at that!——Jeez, he’s gotta be faster on his feet than that!!!  But nonetheless it was humorous and gave the late night hosts another current event to make fun of.

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