What part of the above don’t you get?

The part where you figure out that Obama’s not going to start a war with Iran, where Bush just might, in order to retain Re-thug power, especially if Obama wins, I fully expect Bush is considering “suspending” the results, a la Mugabe.

I also don’t get the part why you can’t realize that you KNOW there’s no chance with McSame, but there is a chance for our democracy to survive with Obama.

Yeah, those are the two things I’m just to stoopid to understand—why you can’t figure this out.

I can figure out why a neo-con-rat want McCain, but I just can’t figger out why a lib’ral or a leftist would want him…

@Inherit The Wind

No Options off the Table

Obama told reporters during a visit to Israel that if elected, he would take “no options off the table” in dealing with the Iran issue and said tougher sanctions could be imposed.

What part of the above don’t you get?

ITW, you were asking how this debate became about the unsuitability of Obama. I do not see how electing either candidate helps if they are both open the nuclear weapons option against Iran. We are dealing with equal evils as far as the ultimate weapon is concerned. The only solution I can offer is to resist the criminal government in Washington. How you do it is up to you and your conscience.
I have offered peaceful tax resistance as an option.
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I’ll bet you said that in 2000, too, and voted for Nader.

There’s a fine old description of insanity as repeating an action repeatedly that hasn’t worked…

In 2000 Ralph Nader said there wasn’t a dime’s worth of difference between Bush and Gore.  He was right—there was 3 TRILLION dollars worth of difference. 
3 trillion dollars because a war that Gore never would have started. 
A deficit caused by eating up Clinton’s surplus, that Gore never would have done.
Sinking the economy and doing NOTHING to stop it but lie, which Gore never would have done.
Inappropriate reaction to crises that Gore never would have had—both 9/11 (Sitting like a deer in the headlights for 7 minutes) and the criminal negligence of Katrina.
Two Supreme Court Justices determined to end Constitution rule that Gore would NEVER have appointed.
Continued destruction of the environment which Gore never would have done.
Destruction of our civil liberties which Gore never would have done.
Alienating our friends around the globe which Gore never would have done.

Now, we see in Barack Obama, a chance to end our 8-year long national nightmare, or continue it under John McCain who has sworn to stay the course, unto destruction.

And you say, again, as in 2000, DESPITE HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE LAST 8 YEARS, that there’s not a dime’s worth of difference.  Do you need to have storm troopers breaking down your door at 2am to arrest you for “sedition” as an “enemy agent” like Jose Padilla to convince that AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS DOOMED unless we stop it, now, this November?

ITW, you were asking how this debate became about the unsuitability of Obama. I do not see how electing either candidate helps if they are both open the nuclear weapons option against Iran. We are dealing with equal evils as far as the ultimate weapon is concerned. The only solution I can offer is to resist the criminal government in Washington. How you do it is up to you and your conscience.
I have offered peaceful tax resistance as an option.
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I’ll bet you said that in 2000, too, and voted for Nader.

There’s a fine old description of insanity as repeating an action repeatedly that hasn’t worked…

In 2000 Ralph Nader said there wasn’t a dime’s worth of difference between Bush and Gore.  He was right—there was 3 TRILLION dollars worth of difference. 

3 trillion dollars because a war that Gore never would have started. 

A deficit caused by eating up Clinton’s surplus, that Gore never would have done.

Sinking the economy and doing NOTHING to stop it but lie, which Gore never would have done.

Inappropriate reaction to crises that Gore never would have had—both 9/11 (Sitting like a deer in the headlights for 7 minutes) and the criminal negligence of Katrina.

Two Supreme Court Justices determined to end Constitution rule that Gore would NEVER have appointed.

Continued destruction of the environment which Gore never would have done.

Destruction of our civil liberties which Gore never would have done.

Alienating our friends around the globe which Gore never would have done.

Now, we see in Barack Obama, a chance to end our 8-year long national nightmare, or continue it under John McCain who has sworn to stay the course, unto destruction.

And you say, again, as in 2000, DESPITE HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE LAST 8 YEARS, that there’s not a dime’s worth of difference.  Do you need to have storm troopers breaking down your door at 2am to arrest you for “sedition” as an “enemy agent” like Jose Padilla to convince that AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS DOOMED unless we stop it, now, this November?

I repeat: That is the definition of insanity.

BTW, I’m just horsing around with ya’ll posters.  It’s really nothing personal, obviously, I don’t know you.  It’s my inner Don Rickles, I’m sure you’ll understand.  These gaga yo-yos running for office, on the other hand.  Shshshhshh, Be Vewy, vewy quiet…

Inhale the Weiner, it’s not McClown’s job to think for us.  Oops, look at that, time for your nap.

@Inherit The Wind

Obama: No Options Off the Table on Iran

http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=10896

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said on Wednesday a nuclear Iran would pose a “grave threat” and that the world must stop Tehran from obtaining an atomic weapon.

Obama told reporters during a visit to Israel that if elected, he would take “no options off the table” in dealing with the Iran issue and said tougher sanctions could be imposed.

“A nuclear Iran would pose a grave threat and the world must prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” Obama told reporters after visiting the Israeli town of Sderot, which lies close to the border with the Hamas-run Gaza Strip.

He said the international community should immediately offer “big sticks and big carrots” to persuade Iran to halt its nuclear program. The West suspects Iran wants to build atom bombs but the Islamic Republic says its aims are peaceful.

“Iranians need to understand that whether it’s the Bush administration or the Obama administration, this is a paramount concern to the United States,” he said in Sderot, which has been hit by cross-border rockets fired by Gaza-based militants.

Israel says Iran provides funds and weapons to Hamas.

“I think there are opportunities for us to mobilize a much more serious regime of sanctions on Iran, but also to offer them the possibility of improved relations to the international community if they stand down on these nuclear weapons.”

(Writing by Rebecca Harrison; Editing by Adam Entous)

Note: Originally sourced from Reuters.

ITW, you were asking how this debate became about the unsuitability of Obama. I do not see how electing either candidate helps if they are both open the nuclear weapons option against Iran. We are dealing with equal evils as far as the ultimate weapon is concerned. The only solution I can offer is to resist the criminal government in Washington. How you do it is up to you and your conscience.
I have offered peaceful tax resistance as an option.

How did this topic, about McCain and how he has TOTALLY sold out to try to save his dying candidacy, get to be about Barack Obama?  Why are you all doing McCain’s job for him?

The truth that Obama supporters don’t want to know and admit is that Obama is a fraud and it’s that simple.  He’s still the closest thing we have to something resembling “life” and “vitality” and at least a recognition of the filthy little tricks the BA has played on all future generations.

The whole political system is rotten. If I were to point out the criminal activities of the Clintons in Arkansas, then I am a crackpot conservative. If I point out the crimes of the Bush family as well as the points brought out by the author of “Fortunate Son” then I am a commie liberal conspiracy theorist.
If Obama gets in as President, and I then point out his criminal activity in Chicago, then I am part of the Republican smear machine. What can I do? The whole thing is a racket!

@Double U

Many Americans are living in their cars. I feel that charity begins at home. The American people are not their government. That is for certain. I believe you mean “foreigner”. I don’t see how we can hold some foreign government or organization to account when we send them such huge sums of money. Our own infrastructure is shoddy, and yet we have the largesse to build up some other nations that are most probably poorly governed. Do you care to have a middle class in the United States? This initiative does nothing to build up our middle class. It just provides funding with who knows what sort of mandates attached to it as a steam valve of some sort to some foreign despots. Progress does not happen through transfer payments to accountable agents. It happens through industrialization. We can help the world through our industry, not through our gullibility. Look at the state of Michigan or upper state New York. We used to make things. And now we are expected to pay some sort of global tax, when we can’t even employ our own people in production.

I see no good in airy fairy internationalism that taxes us to support governments that need to be overthrown. I don’t care to support a world parliament that sits in council passing treaties that have the effect of law for which we have no check to. I do not want to see my government federalized as some region to an undemocratic and unrepresentative council. This UN has served as a cat’s paw to get us in stupid wars like Korea, and the Persian Gulf War I. This organization has seen fit to involve us in the war on drugs, which is natively unconstitutional. Through its conventions we schedule drugs as illegal when there is no part of the Constitution that gives government this authority. What the hell are we supporting?

Re:By BlackOps, August 3 at 5:44 am
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Only one person here is making sense, and he has brought out the obvious, Obama is the guy that changes direction, like the wind in Chicago. How come none of the MSM is talking about the protesters at Obama’s stump in Fla.? Because they were black, and asking why Obama is not doing anything for the black community? mmmmm. and the bills he says he passed in Illinois, more lies, If this was Hillary, you guys would say she was like McCain. Why are very few here not speaking out about this. When OB was hard leaning left, some of you were anointing him the Messiah… whats happening to him.
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Well blackOps, let’s see if we can address some of your rhetoric, that has basis only in ideology, and not in the substance or logic of reality. You see BlackOps, it’s all relative, and a matter of perception. You say that Obama is the guy that changes direction, like the wind in Chicago, and Rus of course says that he’s ‘backtracked’ on everything. That’s what’s ‘selling’ now, in terms of the right wing smear machine, and those of The Bitter Bone Marrow. But, there are other ‘perceptions’.
Now I don’t know of ANY serious supporter who sees Barack Obama as the “Messiah”. That would probably be true of anybody who doesn’t believe in such a thing anyway. I don’t. No “Messiahs” exist in my consciousness. So, when some folks see Obama as ‘changing directions’ or ‘backtracking’ others of us see that as a good thing. As in MOVEMENT and FLEXIBILITY. Sort of like the way an ace tennis player positions themselves (very loosely) in a particular place on the court, poised and ready to respond no matter when the ball comes from. (you don’t *really* expect the adversary to hit it right to him, now do you?) Or, we might even think of him as a Master Juggler, who can keep lots of things in motion at one time, and is able to introduce new objects and retire other objects from the operation, without fucking the whole thing up, or letting it all drop. Or, we might even think of it in terms of a chess match, where the mental giants ponder their moves long and hard..needing to consider the LONG TERM consequences of whatever moves/decisions they make.

Now if some of us look at it from that perspective, meaning that we see an individual who is willing to come up with alternative
agreements/solutions/positions, based on the reality of changing conditions that he obviously does NOT ‘control’, then that’s simply a different perspective than many of you have.

That said, it does NOT follow that all of us agree with any one or several of the moves. Some might say that he should have hit the ball from the left hand side of the court, or that he should have moved his Pawn one way, and the Bishop another. Still others may say that he should pay more attention to jobs and health care than he does to foreign policy. Others seem totally obsessed with foreign policy to the exclusion of the economy and the total decline of our infrastructure here at home. Still others seem to think that he IS the Messiah, or already the President, with all consuming powers to turn straw into gold. Such as it is, eh?

As far as black people opposing Obama in Florida because he ‘hasn’t done enough for the Black Community”, give that a thought. How ridiculous does it sound to say that a Jr. Senator from Illinois hasn’t ALREADY *done* enough for the black community in Florida? How many DECADES has the black community in Florida been oppressed and repressed, politically, socially, economically, and every other possible way one can describe? What might be worth some consideration would be to wonder why they are just NOW ‘demonstrating’ against a political candidate in a way that you believe the MSM should be paying attention to.

Re:By BlackOps, August 3 at 5:44 am

Part 2 of 2

The MSM hasn’t paid any attention to ANY of us demonstrating, for the past 8 years. Not even the millions of us who demonstrated on the GLOBAL level, in advance of the war ON Iraq. So it’s curious that you would question why the MSM isn’t talking about a demonstration by black folks in Florida, against Barack Obama. It’s not new. There’s a whole contingent of folks in his own home state, Chicagoans Against Obama, (not sure how many of them are black) and they aren’t actively covered by MSM either. But, we certainly know they’re out and about, sowing all the hate they can muster up.

So let me ask you: Do those same black folks in Florida think that McCain has done more for them? Or, can they point to some specific things that Hillary Clinton (Jr. Senator from New York) has done for them? How about the current thug regime? Do they think they’re in any better shape after 8 years of THEM? Just curious.

As for the suggestion that if Hillary was doing this changing up, we would be saying that she was just like McCain, that is another matter of ‘perception.’, In my own assessment, Hillary has ALWAYS been the same as McCain. Like, from day one, I saw next NO difference between Rodham and McCain. Literally…NONE. They’re both hawks, and there is zero political ideological difference between them. I always knew that her husband was the ‘best REPUBLICAN president we ever had” because he stayed to the very hard center of the road, while holding to the neo-liberal concept that basically sold us down the river via NAFTA and other similar policies. Unfortunately, his wife is far further to right of his hard center, because she’s such a war hawk, in addition to being Queen NAFTA.

That said, there would be nothing new at all, in comparing Hillary to McCain, so that straw of your argument doesn’t hold either.

In fact, at the end of the day, none of this stuff with the alleged backtracking or changing makes a whit of difference, because movement is what’s required, for anybody actually attempting to get anything accomplished, and McCain is a doddering old fool, and his puppet masters are the same ones running the totalitarian regime that high-jacked us nearly 8 years ago.

What’s complicated about that decision?

Remember how your world was defined by your name, then your neighborhood, as you grew up a little?  Then your city, state, nation?  Remember that?  You’re more than welcome to wallow in nativist distractions.  Truth is, I care more about those “ferinor” children than I do about spoiled Mcbrats with no conception of the real world and who don’t care about gas shortages so long as they can over-stuff their fat faces and tune into Nascar with their dizzying Shell, etc. logos going ‘round and ‘round and ‘round and ‘round and ‘round and ‘round.  Fact is, everything is an abstraction to Happy Mealy-Mouthed “adultescents.”

@Double U

“You’re right Cyrena, in your advice to Parasite.  The fact that we aren’t already dying of embarrassment for being such royal babies is amazing.”

We are dying of brain dead free trade treaties. If we manufactured our own goods then we wouldn’t be flooding the world with our bogus money supply. It is embarrassing to be importing so much stuff from China. Instead of telling people to eat less, we should be enforcing a trade regime in our national interest. It is a very bad omen for a candidate to tell Americans to eat less on the eve of a terrible economic contraction. Obama also wants us to pay some sort of global poor tax which would tax 0.7% of our gdp. We are not taking care of business at home, and yet this money would go to the UN to empower it as an organization. We would be giving 65 billion dollars a year to the UN, and yet our own poor haven’t seen any increases in aid for food stamps or TANF. TANF got 16.5 billion dollars in 2007. This about the same amount TANF got in 1995. Any yet we have the generosity to give 65 billion to an organization that the average American has no power of election over. We cannot vote in or vote out our UN delegate, and yet we give them money to fight poverty abroad when we can’t even fight it at home. This isn’t charity it. It is a scam.

You’re right Cyrena, in your advice to Parasite.  The fact that we aren’t already dying of embarrassment for being such royal babies is amazing.

It is amazing how the GOP smear machine will do or say ANYTHING, no matter how outrageously false to achieve their goal—more and more power concentrated in fewer and fewer hands.

It’s blatantly obvious that their goal is a return to a feudal society based on classes and absolute power.  Power to grab wealth, power to f*** any woman (or man) you want, power to amass obscene amounts of wealth (amass, not earn).

This is the age-old goal that dates back millennia.  It is only in the last 232 years that the world has seen a true alternative in its place.

And they are doing EVERYTHING to crush.

So why is it a surprise that they are playing on racial fears every possible way, and, to add insult to injury, as soon as Obama names it, they say “He’s playing the Race Card, He’s playing the Race Card!!!!”

No, he’s not.  Obama is naming the issue.  There’s a Grand Canyon of difference.

@troublesum

Yes, McCain is also a criminal. I don’t point it out too much, because I thought it was all to obvious. Problem is that it is not obvious to some that Barak Obama is a criminal. Perhaps I should make this my signature as I always seem to get the same redundant rejoiners.

Sorry… http://www.thinkprogress.org  McCain suggests military style invasion

For people here who think there is no difference between Obama and McCain (I have been one) and that it doesn’t matter who wins: http://www.thinkprogress.com  scroll down to “McCain suggests military style invasion…”

McCain’s belief in a military solution to every problem is really distrubing.

Just a note of thanks for both of you validating my argument so succintly.

I couldn’t have concocted a better proof of my contentions than what the two of you posted.

Your rightwing confusion is so blatant, everyone this side of Bill Bennett is red faced at your wimpy logic.

Go ask your local evangelicl p[reachers what they REALLY think of McCain, then start counting your chickens witout that “base” included, and you are left with a very skeletal remnant of the base Rove depended on to get close enough to steal the election twice. Surely his “f*&%#*g faith based thing” did not fall on deaf ears.

If anyone’s been drinking self destructive potions, it is middle class supporters of this past administration, who are their real victims because they continue to believe in and actually promote something that is to their own detriment.

If you are not in the middle class, this does not apply to you. But even the wealthy have seen the value of their dollars plummet due to your dubious neocon heroes, so unless you have a beachfront home in Dubai, you probably did not benefit from the past 8 years, no matter how much the neocon kool-aid has addled your brains.

I amused by this tactic of the fanatical sorts to call their opponents mentally ill. I can’t find anything more fundmentally Stalinist than that, except for the stalking of Larry Sinclair. I thought these liberal sorts approved of freedom of speech. Sinclair’s accusations may wreak of the tawdry but why is it every time he gets a new internet hosting site, the “Obmamiacs” flood the hosting company with abuse? Even a white nationalist web site seems more impervious than that of Larry Sinclair. Perhaps allegations of gay “Arkancides” are too much to bear. If Larry Sinclair is speaking libel than just sue the bastard.

“some of you were anointing him the Messiah”

Not hardly.. I was an Edwards supporter until he dropped out, and I watched this “messiah” talk very closely from the start, as an outsider looking in.

The ONLY people I have ever heard refer to Obama, and always derisively, is the jealous, bitter losers on the right,who try to diminish Obama’s popularity by framing it as “messiah worship.”

I would guess, like schoolyard bullies, they think it will shame new potential Obama supporters into remaining silent. Doesn’t seem to be working though, huh? Obama’s campaign is slowing down to being simply dominant, not overwhelming like it was for so many months, but he is still gaining new supporters every day while McCain’s constant waffling and gaffes are losing him support.

As for the protesters in Florida, there’s no doubt in my mind it was orchestrated not by sincere activists, but by the Rovians who now manage Obama’s campaign.

If you think that stunt will deter the African American community from supporting Obama, you are as delusional as Rove, Mehlman and Gillespie, and their attack dog Schmidt. You and your desperate allies should have learned from 2006, “THE math” is not on your side any more.

Your neocon skirt is showing, Rus.  Pulling our government back from the brink of neocon destruction could only be viewed as a “liberal agenda” by a wannabe neocon.

More and more people with centrist views are realizing that people like you consider them lefties, and frame every event as the left trying to usurp authority that you assume belngs to the right.

This election is about balance, not extremes.  No matter how bitter a pill it iis for consrvative ideologues to swallow, your monopolist tainted psuedo capitalism has failed, and the public wants it fixed before we suffer irreparable (too late, maybe?) damage to the dollar.

But I give you neocons credit, calling this move towards the center a “liberal agenda” may serve to soften history’s perspective towards the neocon disaster of the Bush Years.

Liberalism isn’t prevailing over conservatism, Rus, common sense is prevailing over greed.  No surprise the greedy want it framed your way, unless they revise history before it is written, your creed of greed will be identified clearly in the history books of the future.

The silent majority is centrist,and in Obama they are flexing their political muscle. Calling him, and this historic change, “the liberal agenda” only reveals how unaware the right is of the realities of the center.

Obama vs. Hoover

A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage – Herbert Hoover

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.

I am not asking that a council of countries should deign to have authority of over what I eat or drive. I know that Hoover is not exactly praiseworthy in the popular mind, but he said nothing about seeking approval from other countries.

I think that if we can pay for our goods with honest money, then I see nothing wrong with living in modest luxury.

I resent someone of privilege insisting in effect that I wear a cilice and a hair shirt. I don’t know how such an attitude will help the working classes. It smells of neo-feudalism more than anything else.

I do like that Obama thinks that NAFTA was a lousy trade deal for American workers. He did oppose CAFTA as well. I am not sure that as President that he stay true to his current view. He may later peregrinate to the views of his U. of Chicago colleagues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama

“Trade

Barack Obama made critical statements about the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) during the Democratic primaries, calling the trade agreement “devastating” and “a big mistake”.[71] His economic advisor Austan Goolsbee later met with the Canadian consul general in Chicago; the Canadian memo of the meeting, which was obtained by Fortune, stated that Obama’s rhetoric was explained as “more reflective of political maneuvering than policy.”[71] Later, during a debate before the Texas and Ohio primaries, Obama offered to threaten Canada and Mexico with American withdrawal from the agreement unless it was renegotiated. Before a closed meeting with donors in San Francisco, Obama referenced, “small towns in Pennsylvania” where, “(residents) cling to ...anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”[72][71] Obama also noted that free trade comes with its own costs: he believes the displacement of Mexican farmers by more efficient American counterparts has led to increased immigration to the United States from that country.[71] Obama’s Republican opponent John McCain accused Obama of protectionism for his ambivalent NAFTA stance.[73]”

@Purple Girl

“We need Sen Obama to prove patriotism is color blind. We need a VP like Sen Chuck Hagel, to prove WE want to end ‘Politics as usual’- this Divide and Conquer stratedgy which has intentionally been used to gridlock our progress.”
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“Pitching his message to Oregon’s environmentally-conscious voters, Obama called on the United States to “lead by example” on global warming, and develop new technologies at home which could be exported to developing countries.

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,” Obama said.

“That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen,” he added.”

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-wpxs1Re-8vx2Zk5xnYygW1W67w

When a politician tells me that my diet has too become more restricted, I get a bit worried. I thought only occupied populations, prisoners, and soldiers get mandates on how much they can eat.

I look at John McClown and I almost weep a tear of pity.  Look at his gait, he’s an unsteady spent fire plug.  Look in his eyes, he’s a genuine dolt.  Look at his supporters, good grief.

Is this another manifestation of the Machiavellian Rove..or is Rove now advising McSame’s campaign? After all, the disgraced Rove could hardly make it known to the public.

McSame (McCain) has nothing to offer himself so, like Rove who pushed the dud Bush, smearing your opponent is the way. And it appears that voters might still be susceptible to this tactic.

Can we move our country away from the reactionary McCain—if he wins—and start over on more reasonable, progressive soil?

Huld, I agree, McCain’s the Keating 1, as far as contemporary poloitics is concerned.

I’ve had more than one opportunity to respond to that old accusation “McCain’s SO much more experienced than Obama, especialy in the senate…” and I just query, “Oh, you mean The Keating 5 kind of experience?”

You wouldn’t believe the justifiers I’ve gotten, from 1.“he was exonorated”
...no, he had to publicly publish a very shameful mea culpa, he was never “exonorated” by any means, but his fellow senators ran interference for him on the committee looking into it and got him a slap on the wrist instead of the the reprimand Cranston received
2. “they never proved it”
yes, they did, McCain’s mea culpa was proof of his overt guilt, but his vast right wing protection kicked in and they lept him out of the worst of the mess..
3. “that was just politics as usual”
...not hardly, Some of the Keating 5 conspirators were forced by the scandal to end their elected political careers after their tems were up, and McCain called it “the biggest mistake of my political career” although he did not have the dignity or integrity to resign or remove himself from politics.

Considering his constant waffling on laws he himself sponsored (McCain/Feingold), it is safe to say McCain’s dual personality problem has exposed itself before. That evil twin Eugene exposes has plagued McCain throughout his political career, and the contrasting Johnnys displayed in the Keating 5 scandal and the McCain Feingold legislation is a very good example of that plague.

For John McCain, this is the “high road” he talked about. All republicans(repukelicans) go negative, deceitful, underhanded and abusive the second they start to campaign for something. This is nothing new, as these people have no idea what the truth is or how to run a respectable campaign, yet they put on airs of how upstanding they all are-not. Bette Midler said it so well in her album,“Mud Will Be Flung Tonight.”

Obama-at last I knew still had a white mother, making him bi-racial and not African American, so why do they keep hiding it. I prefer a color blind mindset over a divided one. Most of us belong to the human race, with a few exceptions, i.e. Rover, Cheney,etc…

As for the comment, Obama doesn’t understand war zones. Who was it that constantly messes up the existence of countries(Czechoslovakia), locations of countries, which enemy is aiding or doing what, and is wrong on who it is, in the televised speeches spouting of the continuation of a 100+ more years in Iraq? Well it’s not Obama.

John McCain does not have an evil twin, more like shades of dementia, bi-polar or some other type of mental disability plaguing him 24/7. His constant flip-flopping, denying he said things, making claims he supports veterans when his own voting record proves he votes against and not for the veterans, even when shown what he said on record even 2 days after he said something totally opposite, proves he is not working with a full deck.

John has even bitten the hand that has fed him in the past as Paris Hilton’s parents have supported him campaigns before, but now that he has insulted their daughter, will they still do so?

As to making claim that Obama is the world’s biggest celebrity. Come now, I always thought of a celebrity as an actor, singer or a dancer and not a politician. And if John wants to make that claim, why not compare him to Jesus? Wouldn’t Jesus trump over Brittany and Paris as the world’s biggest celebrity. Or maybe the word John was looking for was leader and not celebrity. But then, if he compared Obama to Jesus, claiming Obama is the biggest of the two, he might offend the Evangelical Christian radicals of the right, who are looking for someone they can manipulate and control until America becomes a theocracy as they have planned.

It’s time to change the name of John’s campaign plane to the B.S. Talk Express, along with the rest of his campaign. It is more truthful than the current label he claims to wear.

“The idea is to slow Obama down before he runs away with this thing, and the weapon of choice is handfuls of mud.”

The “before he runs away with it” may already be a done deal, I think Obama’s wildfire popularity has forced an accelerated McCain’s strategy timeline; what they planned for October is being tested in July, because the numbers are so reminiscent of a Bob Dole redux.

If he can’t win the White House, maybe McCain can get some of Dole’s “old” commercial endorsement deals…

So what’s next in this season of lies? Expect the worst from McCain’s new handlers, especially Schmidt.

Also, the not-so-fragrant scent of Mehlman and Gillespie is wafting through the ether, which means that Rove’s turdblossom is once again in bloom.

And which Johnny will we see tomorrow?  The maverick or the machine?  He’s becoming dual-character McChimera, right before our eyes, any day now I expect a McCaca moment as the two sides struggle for control.

Of course clinton was just using the Handbook she was handed by the same Political Personality assasins who first used such deceitful tactics on Carter, painitng him a ‘pussy, wimp’By admitting he had ‘unclean thoughts’ when looking at Playboy, Jimmy was trying to dispell the intended attempt to amke him appear Gay.Then used it again when a Dem nominee had another ‘funny name’ ,Was ‘Too Ethnic’ (Greek). Although they did hit the nail on th ehead with Bill think more with his ‘head’ then his brains. Kerry of course was a Vietcong sympathizer and Hippie Radical.
Clinton startd with the Muslim question, then when she go tdesparet went straight to the Race race Card- with Bill and Geraldine- but also the ‘White hard Working voter’ statement.She tried to differentiate and divide the Working class along Racial lines. did the same thing with Gender.Reason Hillary did not win the Dem nomination- we could smell the Neo Con stench on her a Mile away- her ‘Red’ slip was showing!
having Voted for Bill 2x’s and been a avid defender of Both throughout the ‘90’s , my rose color glases not only got smacked off my face during her time in the seante, but were smashed into th eground during her campaign. She was nothing more than the Corp’s neocons second Horse in the race- hedging their bets by playing both sides of the field!To end the Tyrannical Reign of these neo Cons on both sides- we nee all the help we can get.We need real Patriots who know this country has been seized by the Corps camoflagued in Red & Blue. We need a VP which will help cutr the legs out from under these national traitors on both sides of the Aisle in both Houses. We need Sen Obama to prove patriotism is color blind. We need a VP like Sen Chuck Hagel, to prove WE want to end ‘Politics as usual’- this Divide and Conquer stratedgy which has intentionally been used to gridlock our progress.
We mus tsend a clear message that we are not fooled by their Facade of party differences when both sides have proven their allegience to the Corp takeover of our country!

Obama/Hagel ‘08!
End this dog & Pony Show once & for All!

If I were Obama, I would direct my campaign to unearth copies of the commercials that Karl “Dirtbag” Rove directed from the 2000 campaign primaries when Bush was being opposed by McCain. They questioned his mental state and other things. You would need only a tiny voiceover introduction.

I would authorize the production of a 2 minute video montage showing Sen. McCain surrounded by the images of the 3 stooges [larry, moe and curly] against a desert sun maybe add a vulture or two flying overhead. Musical background from say “Annie get your gun”.

At the last 5 seconds of the video, my not evil twin brother voice over, “I am Sen Obama and I sure can use a beer right now”.

Well, it’s not JUST “St. John the Reformer, who promised a high-minded campaign and said he wouldn’t question his opponent’s patriotism”

Nope, McCain’s campaign certainly has ALL OF THESE folks (groups and the attached individuals) that have been working the smear machine for months now. Some were the standard slimy repugs from the very beginning. Others are disgruntled supporters of Hillary, and then there are the individual swamp rats who’ve taken up the causes individually, but use the same prepared batch of lies and rhetoric. They’ve been out in full force for quite some time now, so McCain already had a built-in ‘slime support’ organization.

I posted this a while back on another thread. I’m sure there are others that I don’t have immediate access to, if only because I don’t really wanna spend time looking for ‘em. 

Still, they’ve no doubt exchanged ‘material’ with McCain’s campaign.

Short List Groups

Citizens United
Presidential Coalition
Policy Issues Institute
Stop Him Now
Legacy Committee
National Campaign Fund
Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America
Chicagoans Against Obama

Short List Individuals

David Bossie
Floyd Brown
Bob Perry (*not* the same Robert Perry of Consortium News)
Craig Shirley
Bruce Hawkins
James Lacy

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/behindthesmears