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Washington’s Overrated ‘Old Hands’Posted on Jul 23, 2008By Joe Conason Barack Obama knows which countries border Iraq; he understands the difference between Shiite and Sunni; and he is probably aware that Czechoslovakia no longer exists—but as John McCain complains, the young senator has “no military experience whatsoever.” Indeed, like both of the last two presidents, Sen. Obama possesses scant credentials in national security and foreign policy. Why, then, does he appear increasingly plausible as the next president? Assurance, grace and mastery of the facts have helped to lift his stature, as did his daring decision to venture abroad, directly challenging his older opponent’s perceived strength. But granting his talent and initiative, the strongest argument for the Democrat is the weak performance of the Republican regime’s vaunted “grown-ups,” including McCain and his advisers. They have gone far in proving that experience can be overrated. Following the 9/11 attacks, conventional commentary constantly informed Americans that we were lucky to be led at that perilous time by the old Republican hands in the Bush White House. Not George W. Bush himself, of course, whose résumé featured an abbreviated stint in the Texas Air National Guard and perhaps a few visits to Tijuana. We were supposed to thank providence for the wisdom and skill of Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, along with a phalanx of deputies, assistants and subalterns. They had won the Gulf War of 1991, and their presence in Washington dated back to the Nixon era. They would know what to do. Nearly every decision those highly qualified individuals made, from the day they took over in 2001, has been wrong, starting with the dismissal of the al-Qaida threat and moving on to the invasion of Iraq; the diplomatic standoffs with Iran, North Korea and Syria; the sidelining of the Mideast peace process; and the unilateral impulse that has damaged American alliances around the world. Rarely during the past seven years did Sen. McCain, whose own foreign policy skills and knowledge have begun to seem seriously overrated, speak up in dissent from the failed Bush policies. His most significant contribution to the national debate—namely, his insistence that the U.S. commit more troops to Iraq—is overshadowed by his much more consequential mistake of supporting the invasion on false pretenses. More than once he has displayed the same stubborn ignorance about Iraq, Iran and the Gulf region that led to this strategic disaster. They underestimated the division between Shiite and Sunni, the influence of Iran on the new leaders of Iraq and the resistance of the Iraqi people to any prolonged American occupation. That persistent ineptitude has brought the supporters of the war to an ironic comeuppance, as the Iraqi government and people demand the withdrawal of U.S. troops on precisely the same timetable suggested by Sen. Obama. The bombshell remarks uttered by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his aides over the past several days should not be completely surprising to anyone who has paid attention to Iraqi public opinion or to the botched status-of-forces negotiations between the United States and Iraq. As Juan Cole has pointed out, the Bush administration repeatedly irritated the Iraqis with their insistence that a new agreement ratifying the American occupation must continue to exempt private contractors and U.S. troops from prosecution under Iraqi law, and permit U.S. commanders to operate without consulting the Iraqi government, and arrest and imprison Iraqi terror suspects indefinitely. Those perceived outrages against Iraq’s sovereignty were underlined by an American operation in the prime minister’s hometown that evidently killed one of his cousins. The net result of the status negotiations is no result, which has made the Iraqi government highly susceptible to pressure from its own people and from its friends in Tehran for an end to the occupation. Attempts by the Bush White House and the McCain campaign to suggest that the Iraqis didn’t mean what they had plainly said only provided a darkly comical coda. But then the Iraq war has always been a saga of incompetence and ideology, compounded by deception and self-deception. Against that lethal mixture, the experience of the old hands seems to have provided no protection, for them or for the rest of us. Joe Conason writes for the New York Observer. © 2008 Creators Syndicate Inc. Previous item: Sarkozy's List of Successes Next item: AIDS and the Myth of the Oversexed Negro Elsewhere: . CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment
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By Archtraveler, August 1 at 7:30 am #
I find it interesting that in an article and comments on “old hand” politcians, only once has it been mentioned that quite a few Democrats fit this category (thank you Sarah). Add to that sampling the biggest waste of old skin in Congress: Senator Ted Kennedy. He is single-handedly responsible for more failed policies and damaging social manipulations than most of the other senators combined!
Back to the topic of the article, I agree that we have far too many politicians in government at all levels who have either been there too long or are simply too old. Sorry if I offend any of you who may fit into the “Senior Citizen” catagory, but it’s a simple fact that mental processes deteriorate and diminish with age. Some of us will even swear that it’s happening before we reach our Golden Years. Point is, regardless of experience, we need politicians who are sharp, quick, and able to absorb large amounts of complex information to establish sound policies and make decisions in a reasonable amount of time.
This is a perfect stepping point in demanding term limits on ALL elected officials. Politicians who serve more than a couple terms establish very powerful connections that make it near impossible for challengers to have a chance.
Report thisBy john polifronio, July 27 at 8:36 pm #
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Mr. Judge would now have us justify that Obama is an “empty suit,” on the grounds that Bush was also, it turns out, an empty suit. His accomplishments in law school qualify him for a position in a presitigious law firm, not for the presidency of the United States. In fact, the country was duped by Bush. The electorate “trusted,” that his governorship in Texas, and his “alleged” miltary career amounted to something. Obama doesn’t even have either of these to make pretense over. In other words, you’re saying, that people ought to vote for a hypocrite that has gone back on nearly every promise he made to support progressive leadership, on the grounds, that he’s as bad as Bush. Huh!?
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By Joseph J. Judge, July 27 at 9:20 am #
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Those GOP supporters weren’t so hot on “experience” in 2000 when they cheered the inauguration of a man who couldn’t even say the names of important foreign leaders. And the way they sneer at Senator Obama’s alleged “inexperience,” you’d think he was some 17-year old kid fresh out of high school (which, I’ll grant, he may look like in comparison with his almost doddering opponent). They’d like voters to forget Obama’s distinguished scholastic record and Harvard Law degree - including his tenure as Law Review Editor - and his service in community development work in Illinois. They’d also like voters to forget Obama’s role as a professor in one of the country’s premier law schools (University of Chicago) where he taught Constitutional Law (yeah, that Constitution - the one George W. doesn’t seem to know much about except for what John Yoo and David Addington tell him). True, Senator Obama can’t match W’s record of “miltary service”, which seems to have featured cushy assignments based on his family money and connections and lots of extended leaves so he could play politics instead of maintaining his flight proficiency. But, as Joe Conaston says, the GOP leaders and the present administration don’t seem to have learned much for all their vaunted “experience.”
Report thisBy VietnamVet, July 26 at 4:41 am #
Well, despite what you may think of Obama’s experience or lack thereof, one thing is for damned sure: he could not do worse than has Bush and his misfits have done for the past seven and a half years! The list of what he and his have done TO this country is mind boggling and heart breaking. In any other time, he would have been in the impeachment docks long ago. We do not need four more years of disaster that McCain would surely bring on. And, by the way, calling folks that hold a different opinion of McCain “saps” lowers the writer’s own credibility, leaving it an open question as to who is the sap!
Report thisBy john polifronio, July 25 at 11:03 pm #
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Big B, you couldn’t have misjudged me more. As far as I’m concerned, McCain is a pathetic old fool, and the invasion of Iraq, perhaps the worst and most inhuman tragedy that has befallen this country. Yet, you can still hear media broadcasts that pretend that Obama’s pretense of opposing the Iraqi invasion was noble evidence of his “sound judgment,” when he actually did the most important thing you can do to perpetuate an illegal war: he voted to fund every demand made by the Bush admin. to finance that invasion. But neither Obama or mainstream media ever mention this inconvenient fact. Obama’s hypocrisy is stunning.
Report thisBy Big B, July 25 at 7:03 pm #
Your points about Obama are well taken. I would not vote for him as dog catcher. But are you willing to drink from the old world “we can still win Vietnam” koolaid pitcher that McCain is selling? This is a man that was torchered and now approves of it because of political expediency. Our nation cannot afford four more years of the neocon foreign policy wetdream that is the war on terror.
Report thisI would suggest a vote for Ron Paul. At least your conscience will be clean.
By john polifronio, July 25 at 6:31 pm #
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It isn’t that Obama simply lacks “foreign policy,” or “battle” experience; he lacks “any” experience. He has a charming smile, and a smooth tongue, when he’s scripted. When he isn’t scripted, he hems and haws, trips over his own words, and generally sounds like a inexperienced lawyer. Is this what we’re supposed to accept for the presidency of the free world? The man is a ham and a poseur, a deceitful, bellicose, easily manipulated, and ethically challenged imposter. People like this guy, just to the extent that they “don’t” know him. Do your own research, but do it with some thoroughness. Try to get beyond the mainstream media song and dance, and his Hope and Change jingle. Its all bull.....
Report thisBy Big B, July 25 at 5:44 pm #
If I read Jonn Prolifonio’s comments correctly, he and many other people out in TV land think that the only people qualified to run for pres are ex-vice presidents and secretaries of state. When you examine our recent electoral history you find that the only foreign policy credentials any of our ex-presidents posessed was that they once carried a weapon in a war zone. How in the hell does shooting at an enemy or languishing in a p.o.w. camp equate to exectutive qualifications? I for one would not mind seeing some one in the white house that doesn’t give two shits for foreign policy. Only the truly dim of our nation don’t realize that our entire foreign policy is based soley on the aquisition of energy to keep our nation humming. How about this for a foreign policy, sink everything we have in the development and implementation of alternative energy sources. Only then can we assume the role of world leader again. Until then we are just a bunch of schmucks playing paddycake with arabs and jews and south americans that would not have a civilization if it were not for oil and our addiction to it.
Report thisBy MAR, July 25 at 4:58 pm #
An American Tragedy
You have a mandate to lead the world and no leaders or even political oarties of any competence in sight. How can you spend millions (billions?) in electioneering and produce a so-called hero like McCain (actually, a burnt-out military loser) and an unknown in government like Obama. I can only conclude the bevy of handlers, polsters and the rest of the support crew has lost its mind on what it takes to LEAD a country, not dangle on the puppet strings. Like Hollywood, they are lost in illusion and do not know reality.
It is not just your tragedy but also for those close to you and those looking to your country for real leadership.
Come on USA, get a grip.
Report thisBy kuhioboy, July 25 at 11:40 am #
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Better do some research on the state of American and how it got here. The axis of evil in the current White House, even the underhanded lying of the Clinton Admin. points to a need for a change of direction.
Do we want to continue to destabilize other governments for commerce? Look what Americans have today. A lot less. The imperialist, illegal attack on Iraq, Vietnam, Central America, ad naseum has been done for the cause of corporate greed and control of the people of America and other countries. President Cheney supports genocide in Darfur and at home.
McCain doesn’t know foreign policy. He knows how to bomb. And he got caught. He’s no war hero, he was just shot down and imprisoned. So were a lot of others. The heroes of those illegal conflicts were those who refused to participate.
I am deeply upset that our young people are being killed in Iraq. My advice is, don’t go. Join up only if it is known without doubt that the world and not Big Oil will be helped by our military actions.
McCain is a warmonger, Bush was an idiot. If McCain gets in we will have an idiot warmonger.
Report thisBy paul easton, July 25 at 2:48 am #
I will vote for McCain and consider working for him. Far better a dimwit devil than a crafty one.
Report thisBy john polifronio, July 25 at 1:57 am #
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Wow, the blind leading the blind. What kind of bullshit are you people talking about here. Experience is “at” something. It’s not a thing by itself. The effort to justify Obama’s pathetic lack of experience, in addition to all his other problems, has reached ludicrous proportions. If I’m a deceitful and corruption-ridden politician, I can be a beginner at it, or I can be experienced at being a political criminal. For those that value political criminality, the more experienced you are “at” it, the better. If a politician seeks to expand his horizons, to deepen his awareness of other cultures and societies with increased travel and study when he reaches these destinations, the more experienced he is in this area, the better. If you want to drive a car, is anyone here suggesting that there is no value in being an experienced driver? What incoherent bullshit? If you’re an effective and honest politician, then the more experience you have being effective and honest, the better. According to the imbecility I see in your posts, there is no difference between someone that has just learned how to fly an airplane, and someone that has been flying an airplane for 20 years, right? You are the morons, that have given us Obama. Thanks a lot; and you all love him. Obama, Obama, Obama. I can’t believe what a bunch of saps you are.
Report thisBy mike, July 25 at 1:46 am #
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...given the overall voter intelligence in this country, I’m afraid that McCain will be seen as a smarter version of Bush and therefore a more attractive candidate given Obamas so called inexperience.
Report thisBy felicity, July 24 at 1:18 pm #
jackpine - “...but only if you knew nothing about them or their histories” - which seem never to be included in the ‘experience’ gimmick. If years spent in the work force determined one’s value as a new hiree, only old people would get hired for a job.
Balderdash to experience. By itself it means nothing.
As far as McCain and his ‘vaunted’ military career, if Eisenhower can be taken at his word, his ‘experience’ in the military, by his own admission, certainly didn’t prepare him for the presidency. In fact, when he first heard his name mentioned in the same breath as the presidency he thought it ludicrous.
Report thisBy Tevroc, July 24 at 1:00 pm #
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In politics, the more things change, the more everything remains the same. Washington cannot keep up with the world today because they have doomed themselves to commit the same old mistakes.
The useless layers, countless cronies, and same old bureaucrats continue to create chaos to fill their lifelong dream of continued service. Nothing can be fixed and nothing is ever completed. If so, they would not be needed.
McCain is too old to be a Senator, let alone President. His views are as outdated as he is, and the insiders do not trust him. He just might go off on his own and destroy the insiders plans. McCain is out of control. Those who know him best fear him becoming Commander in Chief. The man is nuts!
Obama is inexperienced and will be nothing more than a puppet on a string just like GW Bush. Except, GW was a complete moron who couldn’t even speak correctly enough to get THEIR message through to the sheeple. Obama is the prime meat Washington wants onboard. Someone they can control. Someone who will do what they tell him to do. Someone who can speak and not sound like a complete idiot. He isn’t the media darling for nothing.
At any rate, nothing will CHANGE and all HOPE will be lost once the economy completely falls into the toilet due to the MASSIVE DEBT “CONSERVATIVES” have left us with. They are just holding back the bad news until after the election.
Report thisBy cyrena, July 24 at 10:36 am #
Re. eric bath
“...THEY KNEW IT!!! The old hands (or at least the Bush II people)had bigger priorities than making America more safe. They wanted endless war so they could loot the economy and roll back the Progressive advances made in the U.S. during the past century. Cant people get that?!! The evidence is in for all to see.”..
I get it Eric. A few others do to. Those who don’t are either blind, or they just choose to look the other way. Maybe it’s all too painful for them.
Report thisBy sophrosyne, July 24 at 9:33 am #
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McCain was disasterously wrong about Vietnam as well as Iraq and he sees Iraq through the lens of that national humiliation. His “experience” is old and irrelevant to today’s threat from extremist terrroists. If I were Obama, I would take on the “experience” factor quite directly. McPain, as we call him, may not have the highest IQ or a keen memory, but his vaunted heroism and experience are wide open to deconstruction.
Report thisBy Sarah Sanders, July 24 at 7:37 am #
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Mr. Joe, you forgot to mention that Obama’s team of old Democrat hands includes Allbright, Armitage, ZbigDaddy Brezinski, Holbrook, and most of the hacks and retreads from Clinton/Carter. Chicago Boys for economic advisors. The only new face at the White House and State Dept. will be Obama’s, if he is elected. Same old same old.
Report thisBy eric barth, July 24 at 6:54 am #
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Not wrong decisions by their lights. They were smart enough to know that you don’t effectively counter non-state terrorists with a military machine, but with intelligence gathering, cooperation with other nations and police work. They knew this full well, but went ahead and attacked Muslim countries anyway. They knew they were making the problem worse and driving recruiting by extremist organizations. THEY KNEW IT!!! The old hands (or at least the Bush II people)had bigger priorities than making America more safe. They wanted endless war so they could loot the economy and roll back the Progressive advances made in the U.S. during the past century. Can’t people get that?!! The evidence is in for all to see.
Report thisBy jackpine savage, July 24 at 3:37 am #
I suppose that those “old hands” looked reassuring, but only if you knew nothing about them or their histories. Unfortunately, it now seems as though Obama’s ear may be held by some other old hands who aren’t so much better.
Ah well, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Report thisBy kath cantarella, July 24 at 12:12 am #
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Political experience corrupts you, that’s a no-brainer. It’s better to elect someone relatively new to politics, with wide experience in other fields.
Report thisBy cyrena, July 23 at 11:32 pm #
Bravo Joe. This pretty much says it all.
I remember back to those times of the severe depression that hit so many of us when Dick Bush was appointed President. It was enough to have many of us in complete mourning, wondering what was to become of us all.
For many of us less familiar with the workings of Dick Cheney, (I was, and so I knew there would be no getting out of this, unless one could leave the country) there was that tiny ‘hope’ that W would at least appoint good advisers, so that we might at least survive. Knowing how Cheney operates, and his determination to restore what he believes should be a ‘unitary executive’ (backed up by David Addington, who is even more committed to the same) I didn’t expect much. Then again, I didn’t expect this level of horror and destruction either.
If ANY of these ‘old hands’ (and Colin Powell was about the only one where they might have been some chance of balance and a commitment to the system - rule of law) even considered the use of strategic logic, reason, and diplomacy, they were cut off at the pass, (or stabbed in the back) quite effectively, and early on.
On this though, I’m not so sure about one part of it.
“...But then the Iraq war has always been a saga of incompetence and ideology, compounded by deception and self-deception. Against that lethal mixture, the experience of the old hands seems to have provided no protection, for them or for the rest of us...”
I think they HAVE provided a level of ‘protection’ for themselves, though it’s as relative as anything else. If they’ve managed to get away with this level of criminal activity with impunity and so far ZERO accountability, then I’d say they’ve ‘protected’ themselves quite well, and obscenely enriched themselves at the same time.
They just can’t leave the country, at least not to go anywhere that recognizes Universal Jurisdiction. Their ‘protection’ doesn’t reach that far.
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