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Pregnant Man Puts the Trans in GenderPosted on Jul 9, 2008One of the expressions my grandmother uttered with feeling and frequency was that “one man should have one baby.” I never knew if this was a wish or a curse, but I’m pretty sure she never imagined Thomas Beatie. For those of you who do not watch Oprah or read tabloids, Beatie is “The World’s First Pregnant Man.” While the title of “first” is in dispute, Beatie is certainly the most public transgender poster parent to have a baby bump plastered across the media. Pictures of him in such gender-bending poses as shaving while his elbow rests on his bump and outside mowing shirtless have appeared from here to Australia. And now—pass the cigars—he has delivered the baby. Unlike Oprah, I will spare you many of the medical details. Let us just say that Thomas was born Tracy and socialized enough into a traditional female role to be a finalist in the Miss Hawaii Teen USA contest. Then, a decade ago she had what we used to call a sex change operation but what we now call sexual realignment surgery. She had her body realigned to fit her self-image. At this point, she changed pronouns and so will I. Sometime after the surgery, Thomas married Nancy in Oregon, a state that would have banned Tracy from wedding Nancy, but never mind. Nancy, who had two grown children, no longer had a uterus but wanted to be a mother again. Thomas, who had retained a uterus and ovaries, wanted to be a father. Here is where the story becomes less of a freak show—Bearded Man Gives Birth!—and more like an inevitable next step of medicine on the march, or on the makeover if you prefer. It is only recently that we began to look at the human body as a template to be altered as we please. I’m not comparing sexual reassignment surgery to liposuction, but if Thomas removed his breasts to fit the male model, how many women enlarge them to fit the female model? For that matter, it’s only recently that we could reach into the pillbox and pull out male and female hormones. Add to that the expanding gamut of reproductive technologies. Over Beatie’s 34-year life we have subdivided the word mother into its many parts. We now have genetic mothers, gestational mothers and birth mothers, as well as the mothers who actually raise children. We have egg donors and surrogates. Grandmothers have carried their own grandchildren. Sisters have delivered their own nieces. Indeed, on the list of reproductive technologies, the Beatie baby-making project was as basic as a turkey baster. The sperm came from an anonymous donor. They used artificial insemination and natural childbirth. But from a social point of view, Thomas and Nancy are going to have an awful lot more ’splaining to do to their child than will Nicole Kidman, who named her baby “Sunday” even though she was born on Monday. “In a technical sense, I see myself as my own surrogate,” said Beatie. But in a technical sense, he is not a surrogate. He’s the genetic mother and the gestational mother. He told Oprah that he has “a right to a biological child.” But what he actually has is a uterus and ovaries. So, in the same technical sense, this baby has two mommies, the birth mother and the social mother. The baby also has two daddies, the sperm donor and the social dad. In a technical sense, Thomas is both birth mother and social father. There’s no way to opt out of the medical march even if we wanted to. But what made Beatie tabloid fodder is that in a he/she world of opposite pronouns and sexes, he represents the trans in gender, the mind-spinning possibility that gender is not either/or but both/and. In the end, the most bizarre part of the story may be the Beaties’ retro insistence on their titles. “He will be the father and I will be the mother,” said Nancy. Having twisted all the biological roles, having bent all our biological images of what it means to be a father or mother, they seem to have asserted old social roles. Let us hope he changes diapers. Call Thomas a man with a uterus or a woman with a—never mind. But Sigmund Freud notwithstanding, this is another way in which anatomy is no longer destiny.
As for the baby? It’s A Girl! At least for the moment.
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By nica, July 16 at 5:27 am #
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It is so important to be out and educate the world at large. Thomas got out in front of the media curve on this one. I heard the same kind of argument being made by a butch lesbian on YouTube several months ago when this thing first hit. Blech. She eventually retracted her video and apologozed. I don’t know. There is something about us which deeply disturbs people who are not like us. We exist. And have done so for a long, long time. We are good and loving moms and dads no matter how much people may want to put us into the opposite categories based on our physical appearance. Those of you who are parents yourselves, why not offer love and support rather than feintly veiled condemnation? That would be the human thing to do.
Report thisBy Frank Cajon, July 15 at 8:04 pm #
Zoe, I don’t mean to minimize the plight of the transgender population, or to imply that individuals with hermaphroditic traits do not face the same kinds of challenges and prejudices that the gay population is starting to finally overcome (in a few parts of the world) only lately. As far as my own professional opinion, I already have stepped across a few lines already in this board by branding George Bush with some Axis I and II mental disorder diagnoses in defiance of some rather strident policies to not do so (followed by most of my former colleagues), and I am enjoying retirement. My opinions were my own and mainly concerned the exploitation of this child by its’ parent to what I felt was the detriment of not only the child, but also the image of transgender individuals.
Report thisBy Zoe Brain, July 14 at 6:07 pm #
Frank Cajon - my apologies, no such implication was intended! // You raise a good point - giving birth must surely give rise to doubt as to the original diagnosis amongst medical professionals. // My own view, as someone who is TS/IS, differs - and note that my own view must necessarily be coloured by my own situation, and may not be adequately objective. OTOH it may contain insights not easily available to those “on the outside” as it were. // My own only chance of being a mother - or as close as I could get to it - was to be a biological father. Now that took technical help, I’m not just TS but IS, and missing some of the bits needed to do things in the conventional way. I could never have managed the “psychological gymnastics” for productive intercourse anyway. // There were two pillars that stopped me transitioning earlier. The first is my looks - I couldn’t “pass”, or at least, thought I couldn’t. Enough so I never cross-dressed or made the attempt, even in private, it would have been too distressing. The second was that maternity - or as close as I could get to it - was far more important to me than femininity. When my body started changing, it was obvious the first objection was removed. The second… well, the day my endo told me the change had sterilised me was the day SRS became inevitable, come Hell or High Water, no matter what it took. Had I not become sterile, I don’t honestly know what I would have done. Probably banked genetic material then had SRS. // Given that, I can honestly identify with Mr Beattie. Meta- and Phallo- are still pretty poor, costly, risky, and results of Meta are at best 2 inches. I had a very strongly female body image, but other women don’t. I can understand that some guys are in a similar situation. Better something that’s wrong that works, than something that’s only half-right and doesn’t. Given that, and the only chance of being a father - or as close as he could get to it - was to carry a child, his decision is not just rational but sensible. What is risky is going off HRT and having the hormonal wash accompanying pregnancy. He took serious risks with his sanity there. Not something to be considered lightly. Hormones at that level re-wire the brain, and you’re never quite the same person again. But you know all that. He did too, and went ahead anyway, just to be a father - or as close as was possible in his situation. // It can be argued that I, as a woman, have a skewed view of the situation. But in Kansas and other jurisdictions, I’d be viewed as a mutilated male. So either he’s a man and I’m a woman, or he’s a woman and I’m a man who would do exactly the same thing in that situation, thereby proving that “having a baby is not a female thing, it’s a human thing” as he says. Ok, there’s the possibility of his diagnosis as TS being wrong, and mine being right, but most of those objecting to the situation can’t see such subtleties existing, can they? // As for publicity, we have two choices - we can attempt to hide, and have no control over how our stories are presented should word get out. Or we can co-operate with the media circus, in the hope that they don’t treat us too badly in return. Remember, today’s headlines line tomorrow’s bird-cages, and by the time his daughter hits school, the fuss will be over. // Finally… see http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2008/05/year-three.html We’re not lesbian, but there are enough lesbian couples with children these days that my son has had no problems. We can hide amongst them. // Please feel free to contact me further, here or elsewhere, as I’d like to be educated about your views as a professional on the subject.
Report thisBy Frank Cajon, July 14 at 10:57 am #
Zoe, thank you for your blog. In response to your implication that I am somehow part of an anti-Transgender society, I can only restate my position and clarify. I am a retired medical professional specializing in the treatment of individuals with psychiatric and psychological disorders. That does NOT mean that I or the medical community as a whole consider gender identity/transexuality to be a disease; it IS like many other complex phenomena involving both emotional and physical changes not to be taken lightly or done hastily. Unlike some of my former colleagues who I am certain are flat out opposed to gender reassignment surgery as dangerous, I think it is something that is certainly more appropriately done on a case by case basis after careful consideration of all of the facts, including the irreversibility of the surgery, effects of hormone therapy, and very real possibilities of suicide risk after an unsuccessful surgical procedure.
Report thisMy problem with this woman (i.e. a human being with a uterus, vaginal canal, ovaries, and a baby in her womb) splashing her ‘male birth’ all over the world media is this: if she is so absolutely certain that she is a man trapped in woman’s body, and should therefore be qualified for sexual reassignment surgery, what is she doing giving birth to a child? Hey, like I said, I am not against transexuality, it is a very real phenomena, and it still is, barely, a free country: how about-have your baby if you like, but don’t make a circus act out of it that exposes you, your baby, and transexuals in general as ‘Jerry Springer’ level freaks? I think this kind of thing, posing for nude pictures, making talk show rounds, hiring press agents, has done transexuals much more harm in the long run than good, and the baby girl has been turned into a gimmick instead of a blessed event that should be treasured.
By Zoe Brain, July 13 at 11:00 pm #
In reply to Frank Cajon’s cogent and well-written comment, I must respectfully disagree. There has been far too much “privacy and discretion” in the past, and the results for transsexual and intersexed people have been horrible. “privacy and discretion” in practice has often, not always, but often, been used as an excuse for ignorance and discrimination. For example, few know just how many TS and IS people there are. The textbooks usually just regurgitate a figure from Scandinavia in the 60’s - one in 30,000. The records of surgeries in the USA alone show it has to be at least ten times that. Almost no-one is aware that Intersexed people exist, let alone those with 5ARD or 17BHDD who experience to a greater or lesser degree an apparent natural sex change many years after being born. Yet 5ARD is 1 in 40,000 in the general population. // Consequently, we have judges making decisions based on ignorance of the medical facts. We have TS and IS people being refused treatment at emergency departments. We have TS people having a 75% unemployment rate in some districts, and a chance of being murdered 17 times the national average. // Experimentation on children born intersexed is routine, with doctors surgically assigning a gender shortly after birth, even though we know fully 25% of times, the patient’s actual gender differs from the doctors’ guess. In those cases, we label the patients “mentally ill” for not accepting mutilation and often castration when young. If they show symptoms young enough, we engage in “aversion” and “reparative” therapy, which causes extreme distress to the child, to coerce them into behaving as the opposite sex, the one they’ve been surgically altered to look like. // In 2005, 19 transmen who gave birth were the subject of an educational documentary, transparent http://www.transparentthemovie.com/ which no-one has heard of. We’ve tried to be private and discrete, and it’s gotten us nowhere. So time to raise our profile, because the tide of anti-gay-marriage legislation will sweep us away with it if a human and very public face isn’t given to the medical facts. // Mr Cajon, could you please give me a definition of “male” an “female” that is consistent and complete? One that covers everyone, and deals with such things as PMDS, CAIS, CAH, Kleinfelter, Turner, Mixed Gonadal Dysgenesis etc?
Report thisBy Frank Cajon, July 13 at 10:28 pm #
I am as liberal as anyone and as tolerant. I have worked with a transgender individual before and after surgery, and I think that sexual reassignment and all of that is fine for those people whose lives are conflicted enough that it makes then happy. In most cases, this type of surgery is only carried out after extensive psychotherapy to assure that it will benefit the person, whose life will be radically different after surgery. But in some cases, little real screening is done, or the Psychiatrist’s recommendations are ignored by get-rich surgeons and clinics in foreign countries. Who knows the facts in this case.
Report thisFirst of all, I am not going to call this person who delivered this child ‘him’. ‘She’ is a female or she would be biologically incapable of carrying a baby to term, I know this professionally. I personally think she is also extremely narcissistic to place her child’s birth in the midst of what is a sordid freak show. The privacy and discretion that are appropriate in such cases has been scrapped for sensationalism and this little girl will be fortunate if the parents do not continue to trade her future peace of mind for a sordid life as a victim of the 24/7 circus side show that has become popular culture.
By Frank Goodman, Sr., July 13 at 7:21 am #
Hello! I long ago learned about ambiguous males and females. When Christine became the “...only broad who went abroad to become a broad...”, we all had to adjust to human innovation and experimentation with the most sacred views of black and white. (That is another fake feature of humanity.)
The only certainty is ‘true’ or ‘not true’. And we do not always know truth from non-truth. Nothing is too incredible to be true, but too credible to be not true. The language of God is the thing itself.
Report thisBy Ruben Dominguez, July 12 at 10:55 am #
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I am SO glad that my parents are not Thomas & Nancy.
Report thisBy Gmonst, July 12 at 8:22 am #
Part of the problem is confusion between sex and gender. The sex of an individual is their genitals. Thomas Beatie was born with female genitals, the sex is female. She was not born with mixed genitals, but was a biological female. Anatomically she was a normal girl. Now gender is how we identify (the mental part) and by those accounts Thomas always felt like a male. This is not really that uncommon, and not really a shocker these days. She altered her identity when she got older and became a he, in terms of gender. However she was still a she in terms of sex. He then got pregnant and then started promoting himself like some miracle of science, no doubt there are book plans in the works. The press just loved this story because of its gender confusion. The reality is that its just another pregnancy, it just happens to be to a woman who identifies as a he. I highly doubt this is really the first time that has happened, just the first time Oprah did a story about it. I doubt the child will be hurt by the gender confusion, kids not having all the social conditioning adjust easily to unusual families, if they are loved they will thrive. I am personally more concerned by how self-serving this couple seems to be, but self-serving parents are a dime a dozen.
Report thisBy Yoyopron, July 11 at 10:58 am #
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Cyrena, your argument doesn’t make sense. First you say they’re irresponsible. Then you say they should have adopted. Then you say it’s wrong for a cysgender woman and a trans man to have a child.
Which is it, then? Should they have adopted, or is it wrong for trans people to have kids?
Keep in mind that if it weren’t for the publicity, the kid would grow up with a fairly normal father and mother. Many transexuals are difficult to distinguish from other individuals - I’m speaking from social experience. The kid might not even notice for several years that its dad is different from other dads.
Are only gender-typical people supposed to raise kids? And is it because they’re going to screw the kid up, or because of the view others will have on the family?
Report thisBy Zoe Brain, July 10 at 5:52 pm #
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elitist -
“She/he is biologically a woman...”
Not completely no, and never was. I think our disagreement here is on definitions. The obvious, common sense ones don’t apply in such cases, as I’ll attempt to show you. That’s a big ask, so I’ll have to give URLs and so on to overcome the credibility gap. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Fortunately, Google is your friend, and PubMed even more so.
There’s plenty of people with 46xy (male) chromosomes who have given birth (see Swyer syndrome, translocated SrY complexes etc). Some with 46xx (female) chromosomes who have fathered children in the usual way, by impregnation.
Then there’s those with 45x or 47xxy, or mixtures of 46xx and 46xy, etc.
98.3% of people are 100% F or 100% M. But that leaves a lot who aren’t. Most don’t show obvious signs of that, but some do.
The really outrageous ones are those with “serial hermaphroditism”, born looking like one sex, then changing to look like the other. Some are even fertile. That’s usually from 5alpha-reductase-2 deficiency (5alpha-RD-2) or 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase-3 deficiency (17beta-HSD-3), but there are rarer conditions that can cause similar effects. Trust me on that one.
Perhaps you should look at the latest issue of Endocrine Today, the article “U.S. laws struggle to keep up with gender advances”
available at http://www.endocrinetoday.com/view.aspx?rid=29460
You talk about “destiny, fact and biology”, and so we have some really good common ground. That’s what the issues are indeed about. Please do some more reading about the “biology” side though. Things get a little weird and fuzzy at the edges there.
For example, in 1985 I was diagnosed as an undervirilised male. In 2005, after some spectacular anomalies became apparent, and as the result of whole batteries of tests not available 20 years ago, that was changed to “severely androgenised female”. Which is how my neurology had been all the time, but the diagnoses were based on body, not brain.
See http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1461
It’s usually simple, men are men, women are women. But for a minority, it’s not, and the only way you can reliably tell their gender is by their neurology. By that count, Mr Beattie is a man.
Report thisBy elitist, July 10 at 10:11 am #
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how does a woman with a mastectomy who is also a shameless publicity hound having a baby prove that “anatomy is no longer destiny”?????
what is it about this story that makes otherwise reasonable twist logic into pretzle shapes?
She/he is biologically a woman, hence can get pregnant.
I am a man, hence cannot.
That is destiny, fact, and biology.
Report thisBy Jeff29, July 10 at 9:12 am #
Wow! The most amazing part of this whole thing is that Cyrena and I agree on something.
The world must be coming to an end.
Report thisBy Zoe Brain, July 10 at 5:53 am #
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There’s a limit to my conservatism though.
This is a guy dealt a rotten hand in life. He did what he could to be as close to a biological father as he could get, as any man would.
Gender is not between the legs, but between the ears. In the lymbic system of the brain, in fact.
See “A Sex Difference in the Human Brain and its Relation to Transsexuality” by Zhou et al. That’s at http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/37 8068a0.html - Nature, the world’s most prestigious science journal.
Also “Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus” by Kruijver et al at http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034 . That’s the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.
Or look at what ArzteZeitung, the German Physicians’ Journal had to say:
“Radiologists can now confirm what transsexuals report - that they feel trapped in the wrong body - on the basis of the activation of the brain when presented with erotic stimuli. There is obviously a biological correlation with the subjective feelings.”
Thomas Beattie is male, and always was. But… he was born with a female body, and a male brain. It happens. It’s unbelievably uncomfortable, and many suicide. Those who don’t, generally transition. The surgery for men is not very good (30% success rate), costs over $100,000, and many guys make do with hormones and mastectomy.
It was within my lifetime that people were saying that while mixed-marriages were acceptable, any couples who went on to have half-caste kids were evil. That miscegenation was one thing, but bringing kids in to the mix was “fucked up” as you put it. They had limits to their liberality too.
Report thisBy cyrena, July 9 at 11:19 pm #
Well..this is the first I’m hearing of this. (Probably because I don’t watch Oprah/read the tabloids..one and the same). On the other hand, I’m surprised that the MSM didn’t cover this, like making sure that we knew that the serial killer ‘serpent’ was engaged to marry. (another serial killer maybe?)
Anyway, all I can say is...HOLY SHIT, and God Bless the child. This is even MORE irresponsible than having a child that one has no possible means of caring for, financially or otherwise.
If either of them really wanted to be parents, there are several million children already in need of some. So...like so much of the rest of the 21st Century US population, this is really all about him/her and nothing else.
Wanna be a man instead of a woman? Fine. Wanna be a woman instead of a man? That’s fine too. Bring a kid into the mix? That’s fucked-up.
Guess there IS a ‘line’ to my ‘liberalness’.
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