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Seeing Red About ‘Feeling Blue’

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Posted on Jul 7, 2008

By Marie Cocco

Somewhere along Barack Obama’s winding road through the red states, he lost me. It happened when he talked about women who are “feeling blue.”

    Obama says that these women should not be able to obtain a late-term abortion, because just “feeling blue” isn’t the same as suffering “serious clinical mental health diseases.” True enough. And totally infuriating.

    During the recent Obama pander tour—the one in which he spent about a week trying to win over conservative religious voters—the presumptive Democratic nominee unnecessarily endorsed President Bush’s faith-based initiative, a sort of patronage program that rewards religious activists for their political support with public grants. Then in a St. Louis speech, Obama declared that “I let Jesus Christ into my life.” That’s fine, but we already have a president who believes this was a qualification for the Oval Office, and look where that’s gotten us.

    Obama’s verbal meanderings on the issue of late-term abortion go further. He has muddied his position. Whether this is a mistake or deliberate triangulation, only Obama knows for sure.

    One thing is certain: Obama has backhandedly given credibility to the right-wing narrative that women who have abortions—even those who go through the physically and mentally wrenching experience of a late-term abortion—are frivolous and selfish creatures who might perhaps undergo this ordeal because they are “feeling blue.”

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    The wordplay began when Obama, in an interview with the religious magazine Relevant, said he believes late-term abortions can be banned except in cases where “a serious physical issue ... arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems with the mother carrying that child to term.” In other words, a woman’s emotional and psychological health would not be considered factors. Obama said he doesn’t think ” ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother.”

    Since this contradicts the landmark Roe v. Wade decision and subsequent court rulings that have upheld mental health exceptions to abortion bans, the campaign had to flip back from the flop. Obama spoke to reporters on his campaign plane and gave a definition of a mental health exception that goes like this: “It can be defined by serious, clinical mental health diseases. It is not just a matter of feeling blue.” He noted that neither abortion-rights supporters nor the courts have ever interpreted a mental health exception that way.

    They have not. Because this sort of language—that women might have late-term abortions just because they feel “blue”—is that of the anti-abortion lobby. As part of its campaign to ban the procedure, anti-abortion activists have consistently depicted women who have abortions as doing so for convenience, to get themselves out of an uncomfortable jam of their own making.

    In all the years I have covered the incendiary politics of late-term abortion—procedures that comprise only about 1 percent of abortions in the U.S.—I have never come across a woman who terminated a pregnancy late because she was “feeling blue.” I have interviewed married women who ended a planned pregnancy after it went catastrophically wrong. One was carrying a fetus whose brain had grown outside the skull. Another had endured months of unexplained and uncontrollable bleeding, only to discover after her abortion that the placenta was breaking up and being passed from her body.

    The medical conditions these women suffered might or might not have been considered purely physical under a restrictive abortion law that a state legislature—or the U.S. Congress—might pass. Their lives weren’t in direct jeopardy; the pregnancies were. They agonized over their choice. Did they feel “blue”? No. It was much, much worse than that.

    A campaign spokesman said Obama made the point about “feeling blue” to show that women do not make abortion decisions lightly. I do not question Obama’s support for abortion rights; he’s been clear that he supports keeping abortion legal.

    But I do wonder why a candidate praised for his rhetorical gifts talks about women in the way that he does. During the primary campaign, he said Hillary Clinton launched political attacks on him “periodically, when she’s feeling down.” He called a Detroit reporter “sweetie” when she was trying to ask him about job creation. Now he has incorporated a myth created by the right—that women who seek late-term abortions should not be allowed to do so if they are “feeling blue”—into his own lexicon. And this is enough to make me see red.
   
    Marie Cocco’s e-mail address is mariecocco(at)washpost.com.
   
    © 2008, Washington Post Writers Group


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By Gmonst, July 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm Link to this comment

Jersy girl, thanks for your well tempered response.  Obama hasn’t really been disappointing me, perhaps because I never made him out to be something he isn’t.  I was a Kucinich supporter until he dropped out.  I could agree with Dennis on almost everything, I always saw Obama as pretty moderate.  Too be honest I didn’t pay that much attention to him until Kucinich left.  It didn’t take me long to support his candidacy though.  He has seemed to have a degree of sincerity that is unusual from politicians.  He will speak to issues in plain terms, and he seems pretty consistent.  I have always felt that Obama’s positions were a more moderate than I ideally like, and I stress that ideally.  I came to a realization after Kucinich’s truly dismal showing that I should consider more than just issue positions in choosing candidates. When it comes to actually getting a person in power, who can use that power to make things happen, asking for a perfect candidate is unrealistic, especially for those leaning to the left.  This country has been on a conservative swing for decades, its not going to snap back quickly or easily. This election is one where its too important to be backing a lame horse, and Nader is a lame horse.  His views aside, he has absolutely no chance of winning and he doesn’t deserve to, he has never been elected to anything, thats not how you get to be President, he’s not qualified.  To vote for Nader is to sit it out, that seems irresponsible from those who really care.  If you want the country to move in a direction where someone with views like Nader’s or Kucinich’s could get elected then you should vote for Obama.  The timing is right with the country, the republicans have mucked things right up. The public is really ready for a change toward more liberal/progressive policies.  Obama will move the country in that direction.  He will be more moderate than most liberal activists, but his views are really not that bad.  On the whole they certainly seem focused on moving the country in the direction I would like to see.  To make this simple, this election is a fork in the road for the United States, in my view Obama represents the good choice, McCain the bad.  You can help choose which path we go down or vote for a sure loser and let others decide for you.

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By jersey girl, July 10, 2008 at 3:40 pm Link to this comment

Gmonst:  I do not believe in late term abortions either unless it’s to save the life of the mother. THere is ample time in the first trimester to have an abortion if that is what you desire. 

As for truthdig being infiltrated by right wing moles, I can only speak for myself.  i was never an obama supporter though I really wanted to like him as a candidate. I wanted to feel that passion for the democratic nominee that I haven’t felt in years. I supported Kucinich and when he was gone, Edwards. THe more I learned about Obama and his advisers the more leery I became of him. His views on fisa, iran, pakistan,iraq, aipac etc etc are too far from my own and too close to the republicans for my comfort.

The problem is many who were Obama supporters have realized that he is not what they thought he was.  I would venture a guess that most of the criticism you see of him here is from disappointed and disgruntled progressives who have had their hopes, once again, squashed.

As for me I’m voting for Nader who believes in everything I do and has not only preached it but lived it lo these many years. I’m sorry,  I can no longer vote for evil, even if it’s the slightly lesser than two.

And again I say, if McCain wins, it’s no one’s fault but Obamas for not being true to his base and instead pandering to the right wing crazies who will never vote for him in the first place.

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By jersey girl, July 10, 2008 at 3:24 pm Link to this comment

cyrena to rabbit..

“Any citations for this claim of beating the war drums against Iran? You don’t seem to know when he allegedly started doing it, so how do you know that he has?

In FACT, among his so-called many ‘crimes’ this is definitely NOT one of them.

So maybe you should check this stuff out before you make such outrageous claims. Surely there’s enough other stuff on the bandwagon that you could attach to.

This is how all of you Obama bashers lose any and all credibility. It’s NOT because there are legitimate things to criticize about any of these candidates, including Obama. There’s plenty. But you guys always make shit up…like really ridiculous stuff that anyone who pays even 40% attention to what’s going on, can figure out as ridiculous.


Hmmmmm methinks ole cyrena pays less than 40% attention then. Blueboy has the “facts” cyrena.. go read them and get ur learn on.

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By jersey girl, July 10, 2008 at 3:16 pm Link to this comment

Blueboy:  Great post. If it’s in response to cyrena asking for “proof” that he’s held this position, don’t expect her to respond to it.  She can’t handle the truth.

NADER FOR PRESIDENT

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By Levon, July 10, 2008 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment
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oh, barack, we thought we knew ye as one of our own.

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By Blueboy1938, July 10, 2008 at 11:45 am Link to this comment

“Recently, the Democratic Party’s rising “progressive” star Barack Obama said he would favor ‘surgical’ missile strikes against Iran.” Reported by Joshua Frank January 25, 2005 [!], at antiwar.com

“Sen. Barack Obama said Friday the use of military force should not be taken off the table when dealing with Iran, which he called ‘a threat to all of us.’”
Reported in the Chicago Sun Times [Obama’s hometown rag], Tuesday, March 3, 2007

“[Obama] said the military option is ‘on the table’ for dealing with Iran’s nuclear program, and in stark contrast to earlier statements, he said he would meet with Iranian leaders ‘if and only if it can advance the interest of the United States.’”  Reported in “Obama’s Evolving Position on Iran,” by Jonathan Karl, of ABCnews.go.com, June 4, 2008

‘[Obama] has said he would do everything in his power to go against Iran if it does not stop threatening Israel and continues uranium enrichment. ”  From an address to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, reported at PressTV web site, Friday 27 June 2008

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By Gmonst, July 10, 2008 at 9:50 am Link to this comment

I am starting to feel like a bunch of right wing moles have been launched on truthdig.  Seriously the anti-Obama voices on here seem to be trying to throw any wrench they can into the campaign machinery.  If you all think Obama is so bad, why don’t you start plugging McCain.  It seems to me that if you feel that strongly about the abortion issue, you would realize that if McCain wins it will provide the biggest threat to abortion rights in 30 years.  Of course it could be you do realize that and would like to see happen, thats the view I am becoming more inclined to.

To me late term abortions are a very serious deal.  They are starting to ride the line of infanticide in my opinion.  Its hard for me to support the right to get rid of a baby that could very likely survive outside the womb.  I swear that some would support the right of women to choose to smash in the heads of their newly born children.  At what point does it become murder and not getting rid of an unwanted pregnancy?  In my opinion it is a very serious procedure that should only be undertaken in the most extreme of circumstances.  I think that is all Obama was trying to point out with his “feeling blue” comment, i.e. it shouldn’t be made on a whim.  Which it shouldn’t.  I support a woman’s right to an abortion, but I don’t think its an absolute right to end it at any time for any reason.  In my opinion women can and should get the ‘for any reason’ part in the first half of the pregnancy.  However, late term abortions should be reserved for only the most serious necessity.  In my opinion if a woman is that far into a pregnancy and decides she doesn’t want it, she should give it up for adoption.

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By Conservative Yankee, July 10, 2008 at 4:54 am Link to this comment
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Cyrena

“The only realistic hope in an Obama presidency is that he will at least lead the effort to STOP the on-going damage by a measure of CORRECTING THE BALANCE.”

That’s like saying “The only realistic hope is that George Bush demands his own impeachment.”

Obama isn’t saying ANYTHING about returning our constitutional rights, IN FACT he went back to the Senate to vote in favor of shielding enablers evesdropping from lawsuit.

He isn’t saying ANYTHING about our deteriorating relationship with Canada (from where we are getting the largest amount of foregin oil)

He isn’t addressing the heavy dependency of the Northeast on Oil for heat. This should have been addressed during Ford’s administration, but as usual, politicians don’t love getting involved in anything different or new!

I personally don’t give a rat’s ass if he talks to Iran… Actually rather than talking to Iran how about getting the fuck Outta the middle East, The solid truth is we don’t need them any more. If we did one thing, changed all our commercial vehicles to run on natural gas, we could get by without mid-east oil. NOW THAT would be “Change I can believe in”

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By cyrena, July 9, 2008 at 7:21 pm Link to this comment

I gave up on Obama when he started beating the war drums against Iran (a year ago?).

Rabbit…

Any citations for this claim of beating the war drums against Iran? You don’t seem to know when he allegedly started doing it, so how do you know that he has?

In FACT, among his so-called many ‘crimes’ this is definitely NOT one of them.

So maybe you should check this stuff out before you make such outrageous claims. Surely there’s enough other stuff on the bandwagon that you could attach to.

This is how all of you Obama bashers lose any and all credibility. It’s NOT because there are legitimate things to criticize about any of these candidates, including Obama. There’s plenty. But you guys always make shit up…like really ridiculous stuff that anyone who pays even 40% attention to what’s going on, can figure out as ridiculous.

Better to say you just don’t like him because you don’t like him, and that you’ll vote for McCain instead, because apparently you like him better. (for whatever the reasons). Or, that you just won’t vote.

All of that is perfectly acceptable, because life just ain’t fair, and the state of the US and it’s constituency is undeniably fucked-up since the on-set of the 21st Century, though things were certainly headed in that direction before.

The only realistic hope in an Obama presidency is that he will at least lead the effort to STOP the on-going damage by a measure of CORRECTING THE BALANCE. McCain will finish us off by pushing the mass that much further out of balance, and the result is the final (and fatal) crash. At this point, just another couple of inches will do it. (maybe less).

You all don’t seem to ‘get that’ because of what can only be seen as an incredibly narrow (and self-centered) world view.

It never ceases to amaze me when I hear people talk about the progressives needing to ditch the Democratic party. That’s exactly what the progressives *I* know are doing! But it happens at the local level -the grassroots level- when people organize for progress.

All you guys do is bitch, moan and whine, which makes you all part of the problem, and definitely the major obstacle that the repugs love so much. They couldn’t be more delighted with these comments from posters like you, Marie Cocco and Jersey Girl, just to name a few.

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By jersey girl, July 9, 2008 at 5:06 pm Link to this comment

Obama is no different than the other fascists.  Too bad you obama cultists can’t admit you were wrong.  The big time constitutional attorney just help shred 4th amendment and put a BIG smile on Herr Bush’s face.  What an ass kisser.

Why the HELL would you vote for a man who kowtows to bush whether his name is McCain OR Obama??!!!!

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By Blueboy1938, July 9, 2008 at 12:50 pm Link to this comment

At present, while there is ample evidence that homosexuality in men, at least, is not simply a choice or even solely a behavioral conditioning affect, there is not a single genetic or developmental “silver bullet” either.  That being said, increasingly detailed research is developing which does suggest at least a few genetic components.  Therefore, given the extreme animosity towards gays and lesbians in general, and male homosexuals in particular, amongst a significant swath of the U. S. population, if and when genetic markers for same sex orientation are identified, women who have antipathy towards that orientation will abort their gay fetuses.

In addition to this eventuality, the fact is that there are many means to avoid unwanted pregnancy.  A large element of the anti-abortion establishment takes the strange position that such contraceptive measures are just as abhorrent to them and seeks to foreclose those options as well.  However, those options at least presently exist.  So optional abortion is largely unnecessary.

That leaves rape, incest, or medical determinations as the only real reasons for abortion.  Mental health is a medical issue, and mental health professionals should be making that call.  For Senator Obama to suggest that pregnant women might be making the decision because they “feel blue” is preposterous and plays directly into the hands of the radical right, as does his ludicrous “faith based” position.

It is interesting that the two examples of late term abortion given by Ms. Coco are both physical problems with the respective pregnancies.  While they no doubt had mental and especially emotional components, to be sure, they were not done exclusively as a result of those concomitant conditions.

I predict that, unless Senator Obama is elected, a President McCain will have at least one opportunity to appoint a conservative replacement for a liberal leaning Supreme Court Justice, and Roe v. Wade will subsequently be overturned entirely.  That will throw the issue back to the states, where it was previous to that decision, and the “red” and “blue” states, respectively, will predictably ban or maintain legal abortion “on demand” immediately thereafter.

Subsequently, as soon as the genetic marker(s) for determination of sexual orientation are identified, pregnant conservative women will decamp in droves from the “red” states to the “blue” to have their gay fetuses aborted.  They also may even prevail upon the paternalistic political bodies in their states to open exceptions to their anti-abortion bans, perhaps making various “exceptions” based on fetal conditions, such as cycle-celled anemia (to show how “concerned” they are for African Americans), or Tay Sachs (to show “concern” for Ashkenazi Jews among their citizens), oh, and along with those, any “deviant” genetic sexual marker, just in case.

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By Rabbit, July 9, 2008 at 6:53 am Link to this comment
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Edwards was my second choice. Being black isn’t enough. It’s about time Progressives gave up the Democrat Party. Maybe they like being used and lied to.
I gave up on Obama when he started beating the war drums against Iran (a year ago?).
  He’s going to screw us anyway so why add insult to injury by voting for the screwing?

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By cyrena, July 9, 2008 at 5:21 am Link to this comment

by Verla Mae, July 8 at 4:22 pm


“Folks like Miss Marie pulled this same stunt when Obama claimed those folks hit hard by NAFTA policies and eight years of Bush craziness were bitter about losing jobs and homes. The truth is those folks were bitter. I just think this is the same thing, only with depressed women who want an abortion.”

You’re right Verla Mae. Miss Marie sure did. (I LOVE the “Miss Marie”) As if she would know a damn thing about being pregnant.

And then you sum up this very excellent comment with the truth of all Miss Marie’s commentary..

“... I just think Miss Marie went fishing for any little thing she could use to ding Obama, and the best she could come up with is this crap, which is pathetic.”...

Yep…it’s pathetic all right. And yep, she’s been doing this shit for months.

Because, the REALITY is that Obama has stated on multiple occasions, verbally and in writing, that he is overwhelmingly in favor of a womans right to choose an abortion, which is exactly why NARAL has supported his candidacy.

He’s also made it clear that this right to choose should not be a bureaucratic impossibility. (which it now is, in many areas of the country). That said, it any woman chooses not to continue a pregnancy, it should be easy enough, (under his administration) for her to obtain one early on. Ergo, a woman doesn’t wind up in a position at 8 months into it, to decide that she doesn’t want it, or to risk the illegality, not to mention the medical danger of such a procedure.

Miss Marie therefore, is simply showing her Obama hating, resentful, bitter ass as usual.

I still don’t get why Truthdig is still publishing her stuff. I can’t think of a single decent piece she’s written in nearly a year.

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By jim de vries, July 8, 2008 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
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senator obama just lost my support, my money and my vote. i now find it hard to believe that he is any different from the other 534 corporate representatives. jim

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By Verla Mae, July 8, 2008 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment
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Folks like Miss Marie pulled this same stunt when Obama claimed those folks hit hard by NAFTA policies and eight years of Bush craziness were bitter about losing jobs and homes. The truth is those folks were bitter. I just think this is the same thing, only with depressed women who want an abortion.

After reading this, I imagine Miss Marie would have a problem with any word about womanhood that came out of any womb-less man’s mouth. And, that’s not fair. I have yet to read anything in this article where Obama is setting Row versus Wade back that ungodly far. What I got from the word play that so offended Miss Marie was that the man was trying to wrap his own mind around the conflict women go through when they make the choice to abort an unwanted child. He was just saying out loud he feels no woman should abort a baby eight months in just because she’s depressed about how all this is turning out. It’s not that unreasonable or all that sexist.

Actually, it does show that Obama knows enough about women to know that an unwanted pregnancy can bitterly depress a woman. For a lot of unemployed, poverty-stricken women who are already going through way too much, a kid you don’t want is enough to make a shutin out of the most social butterfly. He might actually know women who decided at the eighth month they couldn’t go through with it. To abort then is illegal and lot of times more dangerous than just having it. Yet, I don’t know of a single time some woman has asked some doctor to do it, where that doctor told her no.

So, for all we really know, Obama was up there being a lawyer. I’ve never gotten from Obama that he had anything less than a woman’s best interest at heart where abortion is concerned. And, I wasn’t there to hear the whole speech Miss Marie is telling me about here. I really doubt he was being sexist or reaching out to the right when he made the comment about women being blue about unwanted pregnancies. Women who don’t want to be pregnant but wind up knocked up for whatever reason sure as hell aren’t throwing parties every night, no matter how liberated they might be. I just think Miss Marie went fishing for any little thing she could use to ding Obama, and the best she could come up with is this crap, which is pathetic.

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By troublesum, July 8, 2008 at 4:13 pm Link to this comment

He thinks he can afford to trash women and they’ll still vote for him because they’re so afraid of Mcain.  He’s well on his way to adopting all of McCain’s policy positions but still expects all the people he’s taking for granted to vote for him as the lesser of two evils.

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By David, July 8, 2008 at 1:31 pm Link to this comment
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Shut your mouth and do as you are told.  Only Our Exaulted and Imperial Obama can grant abortions.  Come an grovel at his Imperial feet.  If you are deemed worthy, you will be granted an abortion.  All hail Obama, protector of women.

Obama is a fraud.  He is just another Joe Lieberman.

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By Xntrk, July 8, 2008 at 1:18 pm Link to this comment
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In 1988, Dukakis said that the abortion debate is not about abortion, but about ‘who gets to choose’. When anyone, of either sex, implies, or states directly, that Government should dictate personal choices pertaining to matters like abortion, they lose my vote.

It has nothing to do with supporting abortion. It has everything to do with how that person views women. If a woman cannot make a choice like this, what else should she not do? That is the basis of patrimony and male domination: Women are nothing more then chattel, or at best, children, and should do as the men in their lives decide.

This is why this is an important article, and it is why demeaning remarks about women by any political candidate should be brought into the public debate. It could cost a well-meaning, but chauvinistic male, the election if enough women decide they are “Too Blue” to vote!

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By Ginny Welsch, July 8, 2008 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment
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Obama never had me and I’m surprised he’s still got so many supposed progressives.  In the past weeks Obama has:
·  campaigned in support one of the worst Bush-enabling Blue Dogs over a progressive challenger
·  reversed himself and announced his support of FISA
·  repudiated Wesley Clark and said Clark had “dishonored John McCain’s service”
·  condemned MoveOn.org for its newspaper ad criticizing Gen. Petraeus
·  defended his own patriotism by impugning the patriotism of others,  including the “the so-called counter-culture of the Sixties” for “attacking the symbols, and in extreme cases, the very idea, of America itself” and “blaming America for all that was wrong with the world”
·  announced is support for continuing Bush’s faith based initiatives program, including allowing religious charities discriminate based on religious belief
·  hired the pro-Walmart economist Jason Furman as his economic policy director
·  named Jim Messina, who served as pro-corporate Max Baucus’s chief of staff, as his campaign chief of staff
·  formed a Working Group on National Security that consists Warren Christopher, Sam Nunn, David Boren, Madeleine Albright and other old world pols
·  made statements in support of NAFTA, which he now says he won’t revisit
·  released a campaign ad which hits on right-wing themes like “cutting taxes” and “moving people from welfare to work”.

All this came on top of Obama’s earlier
·  praising Reagan and Bush
·  arguing that religious politicians can’t be expected to leave their beliefs at the door
·  stating that Bush hasn’t quite met the standard of “grave, intentional breaches to presidential authority”
·  refusing to support Barbara Boxer’s resolution asking that voting irregularities in Ohio in 2004 at least be looked in to; Obama said Bush won Ohio” fair & square”
·  praising gay men who do them the kindness of not “proselytizing”
·  supporting an immigration plan sponsored by John McCain, which does not include benefits or amnesty for undocumented immigrants
·  bragging that he can attract Republican voters

And in his little time in the Senate he
·  promoted nuclear energy as “green,” earning plaudits from the nuclear power industry as it works to resume building nuclear power plants across the country
·  voted to continue to fund the Iraq war
·  opposed John Murtha’s call for immediate withdrawal from Iraq
·  refused to join 13 senators who voted against confirming Condi Rice as SOS
·  voted to reauthorize the Patriot Act.
·  voted against a bankruptcy bill amendment that would have capped credit card interest rates at 30 percent.
·  opposed a bill that would have reformed the notorious Mining Law of 1872.
·  did not support the single-payer health care bill sponsored by Kucinich & Conyers
·  worked to pass a class-action “reform” bill that would effectively shut down state courts as a venue to hear most class-action lawsuits, including those based on discrimination, consumer fraud, and wage-and-hour violations. This bill was heavily pushed by financial firms, which make up his second-biggest single bloc of donors. 

If this is the record of a democrat, than what does the republican look like?

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By C Quil, July 8, 2008 at 9:56 am Link to this comment

Until the physical, mental and emotional consequences of pregnancy are equal for males and females - which won’t happen in any of our lifetimes - the guys should just shut the hell up about it.

Until insurance companies pay for birth control pills as readily as they pay for Viagra, they guys should shut up about it.

Until governments agree to pay for the expensive and mind-and-body destroying care of severely disabled children, mainly the responsibility of mothers, as is most other child care, whether or not the woman is employed outside the house, the guys should shut up about it. When was the last time you heard of a guy willing to give up his life to care for a severly disabled child? They are more likely to say that it puts their marriage under “stress” and walk away from it.

Abortion or continuance of the pregnancy? It simply has very little to do with them.

Men have walked away from unwanted pregnancies ever since humans have existed. After the squirt in the dark, they’re outta there - in more ways than one.

The more Obama lets these deep-seated prejudices slip, the more he exposes himself for what he is, which, unfortunately, isn’t much different from the other guys (and guyettes).

Problem is - there’s no one else. The bridges are burned. The choice is he or another privileged male, McSame, whose claim to fame is being shot down in an illegal war. Since he was piloting the plane, you’d think it would have been more heroic - not to say more competent - NOT to be shot down.

McSame was quite happy to walk away from his severly injured wife and their children to pursue what he thought was his due - a rich younger woman without all those unfortunate scars.

After Obama lured the young and the left-leaning and ensured his nomination, he pulled a switch on them. They were looking for a savior and all they found was another guy with delusions of grandeur.

Having an abortion is hardly ever an easy decision for any woman. For those who use it as birth control, you could argue that you don’t really want people of such little intelligence in charge of another human being. There’s no line-up to adopt these kids. They are simply born and neglected. The courts, the jails and the violent streets are filled with them.

I think that Obama was probably caught off guard and had to make some mealy-mouthed remark to placate the religious right. No one is forcing THEM to have abortions. They can have as many children as they can possibly squeeze out.

They should allow those who don’t want them not to have them either.

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By hippy pam, July 8, 2008 at 9:49 am Link to this comment

Nobama HAS SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS-That being said….I still DO NOT THINK he is the right one for the job…I have already seen and heard WITH MY OWN EYES AND EARS what is gonna be the NORM IF HE GETS THE PRESIDENCY…I have heard our local THUGS and GANGSTAS talking at the grocery store/gas station-and they DO NOT CARE WHO HEARS-about HOW IT IS GONNA BE ONCE A [P.C.??]Black Man HAS THE POWAH…..I DO NOT HAVE enough guns and ammo to protect MY SELF if things get out of hand…...I do like his ideas about college$$$ in return for community service-I do like his idea about health care for everyone-I DO NOT LIKE HIS IDEA ABOUT STAYING IN IRAQ-Get our troops out of there and let them fight their own wars[that have been going on for 1000 years….]

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By Thomas Mc, July 8, 2008 at 9:10 am Link to this comment

Obama is just another Faux Democrat who cares more about conservatives than the liberal Democratic base.

This liberal will NOT be voting for him, I just can’t trust him anymore.

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By rage, July 8, 2008 at 7:58 am Link to this comment
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“Obama says that these women should not be able to obtain a late-term abortion, because just “feeling blue” isn’t the same as suffering “serious clinical mental health diseases.” True enough. And totally infuriating.”

“But I do wonder why a candidate praised for his rhetorical gifts talks about women in the way that he does. During the primary campaign, he said Hillary Clinton launched political attacks on him “periodically, when she’s feeling down.” He called a Detroit reporter “sweetie” when she was trying to ask him about job creation. Now he has incorporated a myth created by the right—that women who seek late-term abortions should not be allowed to do so if they are “feeling blue”—into his own lexicon. And this is enough to make me see red.”

C’mon, Marie, sweetie! Put that crack pipe away, and play with some of your other toys for a while.

I can’t believe you’re devoting an entire page to this bitter, resentful drivel! This is about the most retarded attempt to portray Senator Obama as some woman-alienating, mysogenistically myopic, addle-brained chavenistic sexist pig that I’ve come across from the burning brain of an embittered, faux femimist Clintonista to date.

Let it go! This much bitterness is unbecoming for even an infotainment beast of your angry demeanor! Hillary lost because she was rather fecklessly and ineptly served by a handful of blinders-wearing, presumptuous, mysogenistically myopic, addle-brained chavenistic sexist pigs (Mark Penn, Harold Ickes, and Cronies) who foolishly underestimated Obama’s 50-state running game in their efforts to run the ruse of gaming the DNC all the way to Convention floor, shamelessly utilizing Hillary’s gender to get as far as they did.

....called some reporter sweetie. PLEASE! That chick’s name is Peggy Agar. Sweetie is a vast improvement, especially when you consider the woman’s name sounds more like the consistency decription posted on a bottle of bacterial culture media! All you Clintonistas need to be glad it was Obama who addressed this woman. Grampers called his own wife a c*nt. So, there is no telling what he would have called some non-descript media moron who was hanging around in the old coot’s way.

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By mackTN, July 8, 2008 at 6:32 am Link to this comment
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It’s pretty clear that the revision of Obama has begun, some of it is undeserved, but some of it is not.  I must admit, I’m a bit confused myself at Obama’s turn this past week—I’m not clapping.

My jaw dropped at the redemption of this “faith-based initiative” bs.  If religious folks want to do good, fine.  Let them pass the hat for their funds.  We are not a theocracy and government and society have reverted to provincialism with all this weeping and wailing about Jesus Christ.  I remember when Harold Ford, during his last month of campaigning, took to carrying around a bible with him for photo ops.  Pandering to those folks of course did him not a bit of good.  Since losing, he hasn’t resumed “testifying” on cnn. 

Obama needs to continue to be Obama—direct, “unnuanced,” with words you can believe in.  He’s the leader, now—lead, brother.

I’m not a Hillary feminist, but Brother Minister could stand to diversify his group of senior advisors.  Both Hillary and Obama lacked black people at the top (sorry, Valerie Jarrett, hastily pulled out of bed one morning for photo ops, doesn’t cut it).  Before Jarrett last summer, his senior crew was all white men—Gibbs, Pfloufe, Axelrod, Henry.  Even Jeb Bartlett finally brought in a black guy, trained him and had promoted him by series’ end.

Obama has asked to be held accountable, so I shall hold him accountable.  Like most who voted for him, I expect more and I expect change.

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By Jim Yell, July 8, 2008 at 6:15 am Link to this comment
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This article is right on and to the point. In Missouri there is a candidate who boasts “I protect the women and the unborn” Now what does that mean? It means he will force a woman to continue a pregnancy regardless of the impact on her health or the circumstance of the pregnancy and I would say in this case he is probably against social programs that would pay for the care and up bringing of these children, which is why he calls himself “100% pro life”. It is bad enough to get this coded message from a Republican, but from the supposed opposition candidate of the Democratic Party to skirt this message is unforgiveable, just as his waffling on Spying without warrents and staying in Iraq, are all warning signs that he is turning into John McCain and Hillary Clinton. A bad sign for the future.

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By Purple Girl, July 8, 2008 at 6:10 am Link to this comment

Give me a Break, although I am a long time Pro Choice advocate, I do think common sense should prevail.
If you know you are pregnant why wait for so long to make a decision!
Frankly I am also appauled by women who use Abortion as their form of Birth control, 2, 3 4 abortions without any attempt to use PREVENTIVE measures-Disgusts me. Frankly if you are that irresponsible - you should be sterilized!
If the Pro Choice realm does not figure out that it is not an ‘All or nothing’ topic, neither will the ‘Pro Lifers’ . Your Pig headedness will only ignite the Right and may very well lead to a Ban on Abortions- You’ve almost got US there Now! Just as the Right Refuse to discuss Preventive Birth Control methods, so does the Pro Choice refuse to discuss Personal Responsibility- Both are major Detriments to the Cause for free choice and life.
I would prefer that Abortion be Rare and only in cases of dangers to the Mother, thus it will take an effort to end Unwanted Pregnancies- Focus on the Goal-If you don’t get pregnant then the issue is Mute!
Why is it what calls themselves the Left these days are in essence always helping the Right!Get a clue We are not out to Kill Fetus’ We are Out to End UNWANTED PREGNACIES to begin with (which leads to neglect,abuse, poverty, crime….)!If Both sides FOCUS on that Goal we may end this Stupid unproductive arguement!

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By C.A. Boyd, July 8, 2008 at 5:26 am Link to this comment
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Why DO you think that Cocco “will never personally encounter the problem of being pregnant?”  And what possible relevance does that have, anyway?

This was an excellent column.  Your inability to understand its value reflects not on its author but on you.

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By Conservative Yankee, July 8, 2008 at 5:20 am Link to this comment
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When I was young, I stayed out of the “abortion dialog” because I felt as a man> there is no place for me in this discussion.

After fostering over 100 children, I now have a place in this conversation.

The world has 6.5 Billion people. that is more than twice the number here at my birth. These people are stripping the forests of their trees, polluting the seven seas, making the air toxic, and confronting other people in war about the distribution of ever scarcer resources.

Someone who has the courage to tell women (WHO CHOSE ABORTION) that they are doing a good thing, a responsible thing,  would be pilloried by the left and right equally.

Unwanted children who survive become our prison population, our homeless, and in some countries cannon-fodder.

We put kittens and puppies to sleep when the population gets beyond what is necessary and appropriate, We call it a “kindness”

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By cyrena, July 8, 2008 at 3:15 am Link to this comment

“...In all the years I have covered the incendiary politics of late-term abortion—procedures that comprise only about 1 percent of abortions in the U.S.—I have never come across a woman who terminated a pregnancy late because she was “feeling blue.”

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I had to get this far down in the page to ask the same question I always ask myself…(even though I know the answer)...

WHY DID MARIE COCCO WRITE THIS?

1% of all abortions performed in the US are late term, and generally for very legitimate reasons that she poses here.

SO WHAT if Obama said this? Was it really worth an entire article?

NO.

Make that HELL NO!

Has any woman who’s ever needed one of these procedures been denied it? Marie doesn’t site that.

Again I ask, why did she write this article?

The reason is pretty clear. One need only read a couple of her pieces and it becomes even more crystal clear.

Why do I think that Marie Cocco will NEVER personally encounter this problem?

(not feeling blue, but being pregnant)

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By kath cantarella, July 7, 2008 at 10:38 pm Link to this comment
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Ralph or Cynthia won’t get elected. McCain is more sexist than Obama, and he puts that sexism into his policies.

Women have always had to vote for men who look down on them. It’s hard to find a guy anywhere who doesn’t look down on you, as dumber, or mentally vulnerable, or less physically competent, less courageous, less skilled, less experienced, (despite any and all evidence to the contrary), even while he claims he puts you ‘up on a pedestal’ (where you can’t grow and from which you can’t get down without breaking your head).

People generally always have to vote for the lesser evil. Women everywhere know the drill after millenia of the same psych-bashing bullshit.

You can scorch his scrawny arse after Jan 20.

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