Cyrena, thoust dost bull shit and race bait to much.

Here’s a good article about St. Obama of Wall Street:

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/11/9558/

Ok, I am back to demonizing St. Obama of Wall Street, check this out:

http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-taps-wal-mart
-defender-as-director/79665/

P.S. cyrena, I mentioned McKinney to suggest I don’t care about skin color, I care about progressive issues when I vote unlike you, who says you would be ok with a repug Hagel as veep. But keep up the good work, I am sure you have convinced many people to vote for McCain, given the antics of the Obama supports around here like you, who accuse people they disagree with on issues racist. And yes I attack you, you are closed minded idiot who give real progressives who care about real issues a bad name. You are nothing but a race baiter.

Thou doest protest too much scottie. I didn’t call you a racist, but if the shoe fits, please feel free to wear it in public.

Do you really believe that your ‘maybe’ support of Cynthia McKinney is supposed to ‘fool’ anyone? And do you believe that these kindergarten style attacks on me personally are at all useful? I’m not running for office scottie, so you need not react so vehemently to me. Besides, it takes time away from your mission to demonize Barack Obama.

Now toddle back to your mud pies scottie.

Cyrena, if you are interested this article does a nice job of explaining why me and others do not support Obama.

http://www.counterpunch.org/frank06112008.html

Cyrena, so now you are implying that i am a racist and that is why i don’t support Obama, it obviously has nothing to do with tepid, centrist pro-corporate positions and vapid rhetoric, no its because i am racist,lol. That must be why it is that i am not sure if i am going to support Nader or McKinney, oh wait that cannot be true i am racist who cannot vote for a black for president. Give me a break, you are a joke, accusing people of racism when they have never uttered anything remotely racist on here, you are some piece of work lent me tell you, you try to sound all high minded and then you post stuff like this you are outrageous, you calling me a racist without a shred of evidence, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. But i suppose i should have seen this coming after all amon drool warned us about you a couple of days ago.

troublesum,

Thanks for the clarification. I just ‘assumed’ (we should never assume, eh) that it was a comment in reference to the author.

The clarification is also good because I’ve paid less attention to everything that has come from Bidens mouth than I have to the stuff that EJ Dionne has written.

Matter of fact, the last time I heard from Biden was probably during the first debates that MSM sponsored. And, there wasn’t much to be gained from them. I also followed his “Partition Plan” that he had going in congress for awhile, for the future of Iraq. Perhaps needless to say, I was annoyed by that, because it was just one of the many overt manifestations of the US arrogance that has chosen to colonize that sovereign state.

I’m sure he believed that he was introducing a proposal designed to dimish the sectarian strife at the time; something that was a KNOWN by-product of ANY hostile take-over/occupation long before it was launched. But, it also served the purpose of locking up the civilian population so as to secure access to the OIL, which was the purpose of the disaster to begin with.

So, I wasn’t anymore impressed with THAT Imperial Plan than I have been with anything else these thugs have done to the place.

And of course, there are STILL far more choices for the VP slot. I’d be OK with Hagel, or any number of others.

I was talking about Biden. Should have been obvious to anyone who has been awake the last year.

cyrena
It was Biden, not Dionne, who referred to Obama as being “clean” when he was asked about the prospects of a black man winning the nomination.

• By scottk, June 10 at 11:22 am…."this is the guy who said people are excited about Obama because he was a black candidate who was fresh and clean.”

Scottk, I don’t remember EJ Dionne suggesting this, in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT! And, I generally read most of EJ Dionne’s work, not just on this site, but on other’s where he’s also published. So, do you have anything that we could refer back to?

Now I’m only putting this question out there because just as I read nearly all of the comments posted here, I’ve obviously read your as well. From just a week or less of doing that, I’ve come to the conclusion that you are the one of the latest editions to the Barack Obama haters. There are several who post here; some more obvious than others.

I’m sure that you all have varying reasons for your animosity toward Senator Obama, and would be horrified to have him as the POTUS. There might even be less than a handful of you who have those concerns UNRELATED to the fact that Senator Obama is African-American, but I also suspect that YOU are not one of them. So, we know that, and I just thought I’d let you know, that we know that. OK?

Now AMOUNG the many reasons that millions of American are ‘excited’ about Senator Obama’s candidacy, is the fact that he is ‘fresh’, as you’ve chosen to quote EJ, (correctly or not). He is ‘fresh’ in terms of offering a better and more efficient way for the government to respond to the needs of the American people. Something that we’ve not had in decades. If you’re using the word ‘clean’ (whether EJ ever has or not) that would be evidenced by the fact that he is a relative ‘outsider’ to the Washington political machine/elite, and unbound by any ‘ties’ that may convey any of the backroom, old-dynasty connections that have long enveloped so many of the ‘movers and shakers’ with their corporate and other ties. In other words, he has no ‘baggage’ and can stand the scrutiny.

The fact that he is black, (which you included with ‘fresh and clean” as reasons for the ‘excitement’ he has generated) has little or nothing to do with it, unless one happens to be hung-up or otherwise obsessed with race over personhood. It is ONLY important in the sense that a nearly 300 year old country, established on a foundation of racism, and a long sustained hold on that mentality, has finally spoken out in such a way as to display, to ourselves and the rest of the world, that we are ready to move beyond such crippling pathologies in our national psyche.

Obviously, not ALL of us have arrived at that point yet, but enough of us have. And, we’re waiting for the rest of you to catch up.

http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508

this article is great you all have to check it out.

More evidence of what change really means to Obama and you suckers thought he was the messiah or something. Have fund convincing people to support this corporate sell out.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/10/9534/

this is the guy who said people are excited about Obama because he was a black candidate who was fresh and clean.

For a few decades now, vices have been chosen close to convention time.  The earliest recently was Edwards who was chosen 20 days before.  May be wise to use the time before convention to determine weak and/or strong areas in the campaign and then choose accordingly.

Do-nothing Biden? Rove roll-over Biden? No change is good change, Biden? Is Dionne daft? How can Obama represent change if he has at his elbow, a heart-beat away, a man who represents nothing but the old way, smiling his way through Saturday morning talk-show after talk show, never putting his dainty foot down, never calling Bush’s buff, while the latter tortures, kills, and lies?

Did anyone watch the interview with Admiral Fallon on this page?  He would make a great running mate for Obama.

When it comes to protecting, nurturing and doing the bidding of the banks, insurance, and credit card companies their are none second to Biden.

Biden is a great Senator- but carries with him more baggae then we need. Plus he doesn’t cut the legs out from Under mcCain, Nor help finally rid the Red half of their Criminals- once & for All.
Obama has laid down th eGauntlet for the DNC and His fellow Democrats, We need one from the other side to help achieve the same result.
Give Biden Secretary of State…
Give the VP to Sen Chuck Hagel- then watch Mac implode and the Neo Cons run like rats of a sinking ship.
I miss my old formdiable Foes who used to be the ‘tight wads’ the ‘Small Gov’t ‘ brigade.Let’s help the Republican Party return to being Run by Public Servants and NOT the Corps TOO!REAL Democrats are Color Blind when it comes to True Patriotism.

OBAMA/HAGEL ‘08