Arguing over the exact role of sexism in her defeat is beside the point. The anger so many of her followers feel is a political fact rooted in certain realities of this campaign.

This sort of speaks to the irrationality and illogic driving much of the dynamics of the Clinton campaign. The actual facts of this and other matters is all quite beside the point. It is the “feelings” and perceived hurts that count.

I keep hearing about the millions of people who voted for Hillary, yet we all know that a large percentage of them were voting for Bill.  Her campaign assigned him to the hinterlands where he garnered her winning votes in PA, WV and KY.  He is invaluable.  If he campaigns in those states for Obama, the same way he campaigned for Hillary, you can be assured that Obama will be a winner.  As for Hillary securing those disaffected voters in the “rust belt,” we should consider a statement made by a male PA primary voter who said the reason he was voting for her is not her ability but who she will be having breakfast with each morning, Bill.  He made many errors as president but never underestimate his persuasive abilities.  Politically he is much more savvy than she is.  Remember, if she had followed his advice when he tried to help her with the healthcare initiative, this country would have started its states toward approving a progressive healthcare program. 

I surmise that she didn’t follow his advice because of her competitive spirit.  As I have said in earlier comments, Hillary Clinton is between a rock and a hard place when it comes to her marriage.  She needs her charismatic husband, but she also competes with that image.  What adult woman waits until she is sixty to find her voice?  Why hasn’t she been able to find that voice as a Congresswoman? 

If my conjecture is correct, Hillary Clinton ran for the presidency to prove that she had just as much ability as Bill.  She might have thought about being the first woman, but it never really occurred to her to use the feminist issue. That is why she never gave a speech that spelled out her supposedly deep feminist leaning.  She never took the time to really address the issues that are suppose to be primarily women’s issues even though she champions many of these issues.  Instead she grabbed anything that was available to promote her cause–religion, race, inexperience—in order for her to defeat the one person who has been her lifelong nemesis, Bill. 

The sad thing is that the people of New York State have been duped by this competition.  It is a farce that has been carried out at their expense.  As a couple, the Clintons used this state badly.  She went to New York specifically to prepare herself for the Presidency and now that she has failed to secure the nomination she will have to return to a position that she never really wanted in the first place.

Bowing out of the primary race graciously is not an option in this saga, for the battle between the Clintons is never ending.

Obama has been gracious throughout this entire process….and has taken the high road when times were rough…unlike Hillary who has blamed everyone else for her problems and never has showed grace.  My father almost died in the service and she lost my support with the sniper comment and Still has not apologized for that, or any other inexcusable remark.

Thank shows her TRUE COLORS>>>

100 % agree

Hillary actually has a very thin resume.  She has little record of any accomplishment. She and Bill are nearly beserk on the issue of grasbbing and holding power.  They are both freaks and very scary.

McCain is a disaster as well.  He has little foreign policy experience and his military experience is badly dated, cold war-oriented, and irrelevant to today’s world.  I hope Obama points that out.

i agree with the comment above. obama has been gracious throughout and has taken the high road. he would acknowledge the win and move on.

Hilary would be great on the ticket provided those who passionately hate Hilary already have a hatred for Obama.  Otherwise, for the closet racists, Hilary and Obama together would have the effect of two sticks rubbing against each other—another opportunity for the volatile to be enflamed.

Hillary clinton is a loser, both figuratively and literally.  So are her blind followers who are now praying that she enters the race as an independant, which by the way is THE most ridiculous thing i’ve ever heard.  Sore losers, the lot of them. 

For any so called ‘democrat’ to wish for obama to lose in the presidential election just does not make sense. 

I’m convinced that the hardcore hillary supporters are just the the top income democrats who are scared of obama putting an expiration on the bush tax cuts, and the capitol gains taxes he is talking about raising. 

Those people, as well as the clintons for that matter, should just go and join the republicans outright, because thats where they have belonged all along.

Nice speach by the way hillary, she’s SUCH a loser.

And Sen.Clinton’ s VERY UN-gracious speech June 3 clinches why she
should NOT be VP. Sen.Obama on the other hand was very RESPECTFUL &
GRACIOUS to Hillary Clinton—talking about the “history she’s
made”—while Hillary Clinton DID NOT BOTHER TO MENTION THE HISTORICAL
NATURE OF OBAMA’S VICTORY. Here’s some observations from a woman blogger
from New Zealand—maybe the geographical distance can be a reality check.

Every day,Hillary Clinton continues in her quest by-any-means, I become
more disgusted and disappointed in her ruthless tactics. She;‘s the
ultimate SORE LOSER.

Reverse the roles and tell me Obama wouldn’t be saying the same thing Hillary is saying now.

This campaign shows that the party is united in sending the repug party back to the stone age; it just differs on who get to set the stone in motion.

Unfortunately, Hillary has a good, political point…she owns better than 45% of the party’s hearts and minds. As Lincoln once said, “a house divided cannot stand”.

So Obama better start getting the House standing on its own; I’m not talking about adding swimming pools and grass lawns with timed sprinklers. I mean, securing the part of the house owned by Hillary. She has earned a right to have a say; he did not receive enough primary delegates to clinch the nomination without using the Super delegates.

If Obama blows Hillary and her supporters off, he may be blowing off his chances to beat McCain.

She may have a perfectionism disease, but the good-girl has been a suppressed part of her psyche at best. By holding on the way that she is refusing to acknowledge his win as a clear cut victory only displays her narcissistic belief in her superiority as well as highlights the weakness in Oboma’s campaign that she herself created. If you have a copy of the DSM-IV handy look up 301.81 and you will see a picture of Hilary Clinton next to the definition.

On an historic evening when an African-American had just clinched the presidential nomination, his rival, Senator Hillary Clinton, gave a campaign speech. She offered some praise to Barack Obama for the strong campaign he had run, but carefully avoided the word. “won”.

During the day, expecting Obama’s victory, Clinton’s campaign had stepped on the celebration of this milestone with, among other things, her statement that she was open to being the candidate for vice president. This gave extra meaning to her demand that the 18 million (sic) Americans who had voted for her must be respected.

Hillary’s speech was before a few hundred donors and supporters in a basement gymnasium at New York’s Baruch College. (Didn’t Obama once tell us that the word Barack was a form of the word Baruch?) With no television monitors there, some in the audience certainly had not heard that Obama had just won the nomination. They surely would not get this news from her.

Terry McAuliffe introduced Clinton as the “next president” and her speech was a mixture of farewell thank yous to supporters and campaign workers and vows to keep standing up and fighting for her beliefs and the American people. The Senator again presented her case that she was the stronger candidate and argued that she had won the popular vote, a notion disputed by the Obama campaign. She said she would work for party unity, but she had already been including this in her stump speech. No congratulations to Obama, no endorsement, no concession.

And no graciousness.

homer   http://www.altara.blogspot.com

In reality there are two factions, not partys, the powere elite, who run the country, and the masses. The power elite will continue their lucrative business of war as long as the masses do not rise up in a united protest.

Clinton neither talked her way out of or into the Vice Presidency this week, much as Dionne might fantasize it were otherwise.

The actual number of needed delegates is not certain if an appeal is made to the credentials committee and a decision rendered.

In any case, think of the advantages of offering her the slot.  First, she’s a policy wonk, not a show horse.  Next, she undeniably knows how to quickly start the repair work in the Cabinets and agencies that have been obliterated under Bush.  She’s got that good-girl perfectionism disease and she’d work her fanny off, just as she always has, this time at being the bestest vice president the nation ever had.

There have been several comments so far that have suggested that it is not important for Obama to pick up some of the constituency that voted for Hillary because “It is ridiculous to suggest that Obama could retrieve the racist vote.” I am sorry but I am afraid to think of what real trouble the nation is in if the 17.9 million Americans who voted for Hillary in the primary are all die hard racists. The fact is there are a lot of fanatical racists in this country, but more to the point their are far more uninformed people out there who are susceptible to the manipulation of such despicable individuals. These people did not come up with the myth that Obama is Muslim, but they are stupid enough to believe it. These people did not create comments about Obama only doing well as a sort of affirmative action, but they are naive enough to believe that it makes sense. These people are not evil they need to be educated. They need to be informed as to the good that Obama will do for the country, and the Damage McCain will cause. Hillary is not interested in educating these people. So it is time for Obama to pick a running mate who will.

Ours is still a deeply racist country, especially anti-Black racist—this is and always has been the main reason we have such a conservative polity.  It is also almost constitutional in its importance, the reason why our white population does not identify itself as Italian, Irish, German, etc.  All can be white together. 

Personally I do not see how Obama can be elected.  Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Michigan, to say nothing of most of the old Confederacy are not likely to vote for him. 

But if I am wrong, and he is elected he will need a Vice much more radical than either himself or Hillary.  That may give some of the right wing loonies pause should they declare open season on the poor guy.

Chris Herz
Vheadlinevenzuelanews.blogspot.com

If Obama had been a white male than the sexist reaction claimed by Clinton might have carried some weight, but if anyone notice Obama is not a white male and in fact he has been attacked for his race, just as Clinton would have us believe she was attacked because she was a She.

Wrong. Not that I am claiming no one disliked her just because she was a woman, but her real problem was the narcissitic nature of her and Bill, too apparent for people to ignore. Her visible inclination to say what ever was expedient and something that really did not set well with me or I am sure many others, “Her feeling of entitlement to the candidacy”. This is a Democracy, sort of, and the idea that anyone is entitled to be candidate, may make sense to Hillary, Billary and Lieberman, but to the voter, if powerless, we still do not like to be dismissed by political egos. Hillary got the response she deserved and those who support her just that she is a woman, need to rethink what is important in the long term. I would vote for a woman I voted for Geraldine, but I will not vote for Clinton.

As to her being Vice President, I would not trust her to work for the common good. She would be one step away from treason to an Obama Presidency, which she clearly believes he wasn’t entitled too, because she believes she was the one entitled.

Y’all need to stop hating Hillary.  She’s ok. 

Months ago I wanted Clinton to drop her run and to seek the veep—because I had this fantasy of a Democrat President in the White House, and two Democratic women in charge of the House and Senate.  It seemed like a good idea.

It is strange that so much “Hillary-hate” has arisen on the left. I know she voted for the stupid war, and then stupidly held to it like it represented some kind of patriotism, but so have a lot of other people. 

Obama will join this, too; he may not have voted for the “war”, but I bet he’ll vote to prolong US presence in the middle east. This country would have an economic and psychic seizure if the military was suddenly put back in its box. 

Clinton is about more than her vote on the war.  She will always be, for me, a kind of heroine, for her courage and tenacity.

Obama never had and will never have the racist vote. That is not an issue. Such people will not be magically transformed into something other than what they are and always have been. If the Clinton supporters are so foolish as to vote Republican because they didn’t get their way, then the entire country will suffer unnecessarily another four years of the policies that have so adversely affected the nation. If that is what they want, why did they not support McCain and the Republicans in the first place? Clinton would not make a good vice-president. Her words tell us as much. In fact, having her on the ticket would be detrimental to the success of the Democratic Party. There are many excellent choices for this position, both women and men. I trust Obama knows this.

There are far too many very good VP choices out there- Edwards,Biden,Richardson for examples- for Obama to cave in to any Clinton blackmailing.I agree with Mr.Dionne- such a teamup would be a nightmare, and it would play right into Republican hands.

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!

Are the Democratic party, the media, and all the long-winded Internet commentators completely out of touch with the mainstream?  Everybody without such insider connections HATES Hillary Clinton! 
Oh, all right, not literally, so I’ll modify that: Practically everybody I know dislikes Hillary Clinton.  When are those in the beltway bubble ever going to register what ordinary people feel and believe?  Never, I’m afraid, just as they can’t understand the depth of racism.  Sure, people will cite Obama’s “inexperience” or some other aspect to explain why they won’t vote for him.  I so fervently hope to be proved wrong, but I’m afraid that won’t happen…