Too bad this remains a rhetoric dream. McCain is going to need health care: the strident clean bill of health he received a few weeks ago is a smoke screen. This man has had three recurrences of malignant melanoma. Being a cancer survivor myself, I sympathize with those who have had the thief and rebuild their lives, but it is gut check time. This guy wants to be what before W was the leader of the free world. He has fifty times the chance of a cancer recurrance and spread as a person with only one recurrence and astronomically higher chances than a healthy person. This is a disease that is often systemic and seeds in the brain, liver, and lungs, often insidiously. He also has some signs of mental lapses that should give us pause as he keeps forgetting who is who in the MidEast, and could be signs of either early onset senile dementia or the Alzheimer’s Disease that Reagan had all eight years in office at a younger age. The day has come (with a madman in office) when we need to make sure that we elect a healthy human being to the office of president. We cannot afford another Reagan and by no means another Bush.

cyrena,

As usual I will defer the specific research to you, you are so much better at it.
Still feel the best plan was the one promoted by Dennis Kucinich.  Yes this does seem to be a pro Hillary article.

Your sarcasm is wasted Alex, at least on anybody who’s actually studied both health plans, because they are identical, and NEITHER are without flaws.

But then, you haven’t even bothered to pay attention to that, because for you and Marie, this is only about Hillary v. Obama.

Besides that, at least a portion of this spin from Marie in not new, (about the cherry-picking of insurance companies)and is bogus and misses the point, because she (like you) is trying to use it as a she vs him thing, at the expense of the American public. ALL of us.

And, you’ve done it right here with the “Democrats who oppose him”.

Very sad that people like you and Marie would target something as important as health care to spin into your sick bias that lacks any objective pragmatism.

Shows the typical desperation that Hillary supporters have resorted to.

Marie, This is a total waste of your time as well as ours, because you’re assuming that we haven’t read both of the health plans that both Hillary and Obama brought to their respective campaigns. (McCain never had one, and still doesn’t).

The health plans of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are IDENTICAL, with one exception. Hillary claimed that it would be MANDATED that every single person purchase insurance, (even though that was stupid because she admitted herself that she had no way to enforce such a mandate) and Obama’s plan did not involve a mandate other than for children. (and I’m not sure how he would enforce that either, except via the state, since there are already such programs in effect).

That is the ONLY difference in their health plans. BOTH plans still require that we PURCHASE health care insurance, and if one is fortunate enough to be employed, then this will force employers to offer it, though the employee will most likely still have to kick in.

People on Medicare will no doubt CONTINE to pay the feds (as we’ve been doing all along) for part B insurace coverage. (something that I don’t think many journalists are aware of.) Medicare does not MANDATE that it’s recipients purchase part B, but it would be pretty stupid to be without it, so most people DO opt for it. It costs the average recipient just over $1,200. per year, deducted from their SS income. Again, it is NOT mandatory, but since it covers hospitalization, it would be a little stupid to NOT purchase it.

As for insurance companies being able to continue their ‘cherry picking’ that too is a bogus claim, which is the whole point of having the health care plan (imperfect as it is) that both Hillary and Obama came up with. It is to make health insurance affordable (supposedly) to anyone who wants to purchase it, so insurance companies CANNOT deny coverage or pick and choose who they want to cover.

For those who are NOT employed, (and therefore assisted by employer contributions) it will be more of a burden. So, if some 25 year old thinks that they cannot afford to fork out a hundred or more dollars a month for insurance, because they think they can get by cheaper just paying out of their pockets for a once a year physical, then that will be their choice, and they’ll have to hope that they don’t come up on some life threatening illness or accident.

But I’m sick of hearing this bogus claim that the lack of a MANDATE for people to purchase health insurance is somehow leaving them uninsured. If it’s as ‘affordable’ as Hillary and Barack claim it will be, (and let me repeat, aside from this mandate that forces everyone to purchase a plan, the plans are IDENTICAL) then people will obviously buy the insurance.

And Marie…Hillary lost. Get over it. And unless McCain somehow slips in, anybody that wants to purchase health insurance will be able to do that, and the insurance companies will have to insure them. 

Now find another topic Marie, because you’re as stale as your heroine, Hillary. Maybe you could spend the next 4 years coming up with a single payer health insurance program that doesn’t employ anyone from the Insurance industry, and let the feds take responsibility for the whole thing. (the feds can just hire all of those claims processors from the insurance industry)

Then again, maybe not. We see what they’ve done to the prescription drug part of the plan.