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A Farewell to the ‘Hillary Nutcracker’ and Other Obscenities

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Posted on May 12, 2008

By Marie Cocco

    WASHINGTON—As the Democratic nomination contest slouches toward a close, it’s time to take stock of what I will not miss.

    I will not miss seeing advertisements for T-shirts that bear the slogan “Bros before Hos.” The shirts depict Barack Obama (the Bro) and Hillary Clinton (the Ho), and they are widely sold on the Internet. 

    I will not miss walking past airport concessions selling the Hillary Nutcracker, a device in which a pantsuit-clad Clinton doll opens her legs to reveal stainless steel thighs that, well, bust nuts. I won’t miss television and newspaper stories that make light of the novelty item.

    I won’t miss episodes like the one in which the liberal radio personality Randi Rhodes called Clinton a “big f—-in’ whore” and said the same about former vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Rhodes was appearing at an event sponsored by a San Francisco radio station, before an audience of appreciative Obama supporters—one of whom had promoted the evening on the presumptive Democratic nominee’s official campaign Web site.

    I won’t miss Citizens United Not Timid (no acronym, please), an anti-Clinton group founded by Republican guru Roger Stone. 

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    Political discourse will at last be free of jokes like this one, told last week by magician Penn Jillette on MSNBC: “Obama did great in February, and that’s because that was Black History Month. And now Hillary’s doing much better ‘cause it’s White B——Month, right?” Co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski rebuked Jillette. 

    I won’t miss political commentators (including National Public Radio political editor Ken Rudin and Andrew Sullivan, the columnist and blogger) who compare Clinton to the Glenn Close character in the movie “Fatal Attraction.” In the iconic 1987 film, Close played an independent New York woman who has an affair with a married man played by Michael Douglas. When the liaison ends, the jilted woman becomes a deranged, knife-wielding stalker who terrorizes the man’s blissful suburban family. Message: Psychopathic home-wrecker, be gone.

    The airwaves will at last be free of comments that liken Clinton to a “she-devil” (Chris Matthews on MSNBC, who helpfully supplied an on-screen mockup of Clinton sprouting horns). Or those who offer that she’s “looking like everyone’s first wife standing outside a probate court” (Mike Barnicle, also on MSNBC).

    But perhaps it is not wives who are so very problematic. Maybe it’s mothers. Because, after all, Clinton is more like “a scolding mother, talking down to a child” (Jack Cafferty on CNN).

    When all other images fail, there is one other I will not miss. That is, the down-to-the-basics, simplest one: “White women are a problem, that’s—you know, we all live with that” (William Kristol of Fox News).

    I won’t miss reading another treatise by a man or woman, of the left or right, who says that sexism has had not even a teeny-weeny bit of influence on the course of the Democratic campaign. To hint that sexism might possibly have had a minimal role is to play that risible “gender card.”

    Most of all, I will not miss the silence.

    I will not miss the deafening, depressing silence of Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean or other leading Democrats, who to my knowledge (with the exception of Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland) haven’t uttered a word of public outrage at the unrelenting, sex-based hate that has been hurled at a former first lady and two-term senator from New York. Among those holding their tongues are hundreds of Democrats for whom Clinton has campaigned and raised millions of dollars. Don Imus endured more public ire from the political class when he insulted the Rutgers University women’s basketball team. 

    Would the silence prevail if Obama’s likeness were put on a tap-dancing doll that was sold at airports? Would the media figures who dole out precious face time to these politicians be such pals if they’d compared Obama with a character in a blaxploitation film? And how would crude references to Obama’s sex organs play?

    There are many reasons why Clinton is losing the nomination contest, some having to do with her strategic mistakes, others with the groundswell for “change.” But for all Clinton’s political blemishes, the darker stain that has been exposed is the hatred of women that is accepted as a part of our culture.
   
    Marie Cocco’s e-mail address is mariecocco(at)washpost.com.
   
    © 2008, Washington Post Writers Group


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By Della Reiman, June 11, 2008 at 9:55 am #
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Like Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire,  Hillary can do anyhing Obama can do….with orthopedic shoes and a girdle.

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By Ralph Wright, May 24, 2008 at 6:59 am #
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I work for a company that sells the Hillary Nutcracker - zamashop.com.  I can tell you it was never meant to put down Hillary in any way.  In fact, many of my co-workers are Hillary supporters.  Unfortunately, it has been included, along with all the comments, stories, and products that degrade and put her down. 

As an Independent, I must say it’s a very sad situation that has come about in the Democratic party.  I believe the division in the party will play a role in the general election, giving McCain the upper hand.  While you may not agree with the comments or tactics Hillary uses, as a Democrat, you should not ridicule her as a person.  This only furthers the divide.  Once again, the Democrats and those who want change have spoiled their chances.

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By Leefeller, May 23, 2008 at 2:32 pm #

Not a question, but how Hillary treated the women Bill took advantage of, standing by her man did not show women anything but the fact opportunism is more important than sexism.  Using sexism as an argument is really a joke when it comes to Hillary. 

Just smoke and mirrors way not to speak or address the real issues.

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By Conservative Yankee, May 23, 2008 at 9:01 am #
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I have asked this question before, but have never had an answer.

It is called misogynism when men put or keep women down, When women keep or put other women “in their place” or “at the back of the bus” folks ignore the slight. Sort of like Silas Legree’s black overseer who whipped Uncle Tom to death.

This is what Hill-the-business-shill did when she not once, not one time, never stood up for the thousands of mistreated women at Walmart.

Now Sam was a sexist.. he admitted it, and it has been duly recorded. Liza Featherstone wrote a great book on the subject in which she claims sexism is “ingrained” in the Walmart corporate structure;
http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/251
So how can women here on this board stick men opposed to Hillary with the “sexism” label, when Hillary sat around and let Walmart mistreat women for the 8 years (same time frame as two presidential terms) she remained on Walmart’s board?

During the civil rights struggles, I always had the question in my mind of why people of color WANTED to be served at Woolworth’s lunch counters. The service was lousey, the food mediocre and there were PLENTY of black or Jewish-run restaurants with good food in the old south where folks were treated better.

So here’s the question:

Is sexism only a problem when it surfaces it the top of the heap, near that famous glass ceiling?  Or are all you self-righteous folks who decry misogyny, going to cease shopping at Walmart?

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By Maurice, May 22, 2008 at 8:22 pm #
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I just watched your interview in PBS and I agree with you that nobody has come to Senator Clinton defense and this is a sexist attitude.

However you must recognize that Senator Clinton personality and background, makes the treatment that she have received not applicable to another woman candidate, furthermore, Senator Clinton continuing twisting the math reality almost in a daily basis is very unique!

No other man or woman would have got away with it.

I personally think that Senator Clinton approaches during the campaign are damaging to women in general because of how this negative stereotype could be used against normal women!

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By Leefeller, May 18, 2008 at 10:40 am #

Good old everyday opportunism still stands for politics covering scruples or lack of both parties.

Actually searching for a more potent word, could be quite fun. Not awake yet, so I am not up to it.

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By conservative Yankee, May 17, 2008 at 8:45 am #
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If it’s called “sexism” when you question the business-shill’s integrity what is it called when you question the scruples of the entire party?

I tried “partyism but that sounds far too festive.

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By Leefeller, May 17, 2008 at 12:35 am #

Obama cult is running scared, Hillary may have been a biggie on campus, but maybe you do not know this but people change.  Especially if you look at the corruption and power happening, coupled with opportunist’s and special interests scurrying the halls of Congress, like rats.

Hillay has not been one ounce of divisive, the Obama cult running scared has made all this up in their last gasp for integrity.

Entitlement is something kings and queens are made of.  Still looking for the Hillary Nut Cracker, know were I can buy one?

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By Amon Drool, May 16, 2008 at 11:24 pm #

i’ve been checking out this thread for some days now.  for some reason i’ve only been able to access the last 15 posts (or so) tonight.
erin, i don’t need to take a class to realize that those on the weaker end of a power relationship sometimes internalize the hegemon’s viewpoint and act against their own best interests.  and it is possible that some women who post on progressive websites may have had this happen to them.  but, the feeling i get is that the main source of their discontent is hillary’s war vote.  a lot of us think she put ambition over principle with that vote.  scroll up to evilive’s post…i think (s)he expresses this view succinctly.  while marie cocco finds the hillary nutcracker obscene, a lot of us find hillary’s war vote way more obscene.

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By AC-n-NC, May 16, 2008 at 9:03 am #
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I agree with you on every point and many that you have not mentioned here. A lot of trolls flamed you, the Obama cult is running scared I think . Keep up the excellent writing .

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By NYT9237723, May 14, 2008 at 1:37 pm #
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Perhaps the nasty tone of the responses to her editorial proves her case. Racists and sexists generally think that their beliefs are justified, and that their vehemence is a balanced response to what a black/woman/hispanic/etc. merits. How about a little introspection?

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By Jane Poppendorf, May 14, 2008 at 6:35 am #
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the primary isn’t over yet and this supplies lots of fuel for Hillary bashers. It’s also an important summary by an obviously well-read writer.
I agree about the rampant misogynism. Not that I supported either candidate with enthusiasm.
But Hill will go down in history for what she has accomplished, far exceeding both Obama and McCain, whoever receives the presidency.
The woman has guts. I went to college with her and already back then her name was plastered all over campus. Among those who knew her, I never heard any disparagement. They were too proud and too impressed.

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By cyrena, May 14, 2008 at 4:40 am #

Leefeller, I’d said as much the same. I hadn’t seen or heard of any of these alleged insults to Hillary Rodham, so it seems to me like Marie just brought it to everyone’s attention. If we didn’t know about all of this stuff before, now we do.

Nope…never saw or knew about the terminator doll either. It might become a collectors item one day, but I’ll never be able to cash in on it.

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By cyrena, May 13, 2008 at 9:11 pm #

Yes expat,

You were forgiven before you even requested such. (sounds like something from my long ago religious indoctrination) Shame on me.

The only reason I even noticed it, is because your spelling is that of my own family name. Which reminds me of an interesting occassion.

When my grandmother passed away at the age of 96, we (the clan) were doing the traditional and customary things that occur in such circumstances, in the part of the country where part of my family hails. (Southwestern Louisiana). This always requires an ‘opening’ of the family tomb at the cemetary, since all are buried above ground there, and space is very limited).

As my cousins were doing their masonry work, I strolled through the cemetary with another cousin. Needless to say, it wasn’t my first time there, but I’d never noticed another tomb with the same family name. Coco. I was surprised, because I’d never heard of this family, and it’s a small place. So I asked my cousin, “Who are these Coco’s? I’ve never heard of them?” (the dates indicated that the were only just ahead of my own ‘line’) He said, “Oh…those are the ‘white’ Coco’s.”

So, there you have it. (as if that really explains much). Anyway, that’s the only reason that I even noted the spelling.

As for the cereal, if I remember correctly, (it used to be my favorite, but that was long ago) It is spelled with the standard spelling for that plant, which as an ‘a’ at the end. Cocoa.

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By Wondrouswoman, May 13, 2008 at 4:43 pm #
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Marie, you speak for me and for millions of women.  One thing I have been reminded of during this campaign is the tremendous amount of deep, deep hatred of women who dare to challenge the way things are and have been for so many centuries.  I did not set out to support Clinton, but after witnessing and reading the tremendous amount of hatred and hate speech unleashed on her by the MSM and zealous Obama backers, I started to pay attention and concluded that she is the strongest, brightest, and most committed candidate in the race with the best program.  The day after viewing the YouTube video of Senator Obama “flipping the finger” at her, I joined her campaign.  (Perhaps I’m naïve, but I was shocked that a national presidential candidate would descend to that level.)

Unfortunately, hatred and derision of women is nothing new, and, sadly, as evidenced in the comments generated by your article, is still very much alive.  I agree with you that the leadership of the Democratic Party has been very remiss in condoning with their silence all the hatred that has been expressed in profane comments and name calling directed at Clinton.  Hate speech is never acceptable in civil society.  No one, whether we agree with him/her or not, should be subjected to insults focused on his/her race, physical status, gender, gender orientation, etc.  It is not OK to hurl a racial epithet at someone.  Nor is it OK to attack her gender. 

It amazes me that so many educated and purportedly “progressive” people don’t yet understand that.  Of course, some of them may be upset by personal problems or their feelings of powerlessness in the face of a corrupt administration, etc. and, hence, looking for a target for their frustration (what some might call “a hook to hang it on”).  Hillary is out there making waves and challenging the status quo and “good ole boys” and, hence, makes a “safe” and logical target for their pent up rage.  They dump it on her and feel better (for awhile).  It’s not a rational approach, but it may work in the short run for those who are unable to deal with things in a more mature manner.

Others, I think, are infected with male chauvinism pure and simple.  Their definitions of “male” and “female” are threatened by someone like Hillary, and they call her names and otherwise make her pay for it.  In the course of doing so, they are alienating and “turning off” millions of women.  Unfortunately, we may all end up paying for their their hatred of Hillary at the ballot box in November.

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By NE Philly, May 13, 2008 at 4:09 pm #
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I am more shocked by the comments than the article.Any woman that does not realize that sexism still exist in the majority of America either lives under a rock or likes being subservient.As for one of the gentlemen mentioned in the article(Chris Matthews)That was not the only time he has made sexists or disparaging remarks about Hillary.If he is serious about running for a senate seat in PA,I will be the first to donate to his opponent and volunteer my time to make sure he never gets elected.

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By Status Quo, May 13, 2008 at 3:15 pm #
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This was an excellent post Marie.  These people are so biased it’s sickening.  Bigotry exists.  However attempting to place one evil above another is a mistake.  I’m a black woman, and I am so sick of people telling me that I’m black before I’m a woman.  That’s the argument why I should have voted for Obama.  I’m black first.  I don’t remember choosing either when I was conceived.  If there were as many racist images out as there are sexist, there would have been a riot and a boycott.  I just hate when people, especially women, downplay the role sexism played in this election.  I guess being the last people allowed to vote in the US doesn’t mean anything to them.

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By JimM, May 13, 2008 at 3:12 pm #

Marie

the bombast she would be subjected to by the Repugnican slime machine if she were the nominee would make the current comments seem like compliments.
I hope Barack is ready to sling their shit right back in their faces, which Kerry should have done but didnt.

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By Frogman, May 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm #

I think that you summed up the Clinton campaign and America perfectly. Thank you.

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By Eric L. Prentis, May 13, 2008 at 2:01 pm #
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Sen. Clinton, irrationally, looks at the US presidency the same way she sees Bill Clinton, she is in love with them both. When Bill philandered with Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones, to name a few, Hillary, to her credit, did not give up on her marriage. Likewise, now that the Democratic nomination has moved to Sen. Obama, Hillary clings tenaciously to her Quixotic quest for the presidency not realizing the consequences are fundamentally different, i.e., staying in the campaign is not only about Hillary but also hurts the greater good of the Democratic party. Hillary, please, recognize your “will to believe” mistake and drop out now.

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By Mary, May 13, 2008 at 1:52 pm #
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Thank you,  Marie.  A classy and well written post.  And it   speaks volumes. 

Hold on to that   statement,  regardless of the tacky and classless responses that   reflect the very concerns you listed,  as their “leader”  urges them to raise the tone of politics and unify.  Uniters,  they ain’t. 

November will   be a big surprise for them. 

Thank you again.

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By Melissa, May 13, 2008 at 12:50 pm #
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Hillary and Obama’s voting records are virtually identicle since they have both been in the Senate.

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By Alex, May 13, 2008 at 12:40 pm #
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What are you people talking about, she’s spot on here. There’s been an incredible amount of sexist crap thrown at Clinton that’s hardly got any coverage (including a fair few dog whistles on her sex from the Obama campaign itself).  Amon, she never said dislike of Clinton automatically entails sexism, just that there’s been an enormous amount of comments (anywhere on dailykos, reddit or digg if you’re looking for easy examples) that doesn’t focus on why they don’t like Clinton, just general insults that could be used on any women. Racism may be a problem in this campaign, but at least it’s noted by the press - sexism has just been accepted, and even practiced, by the media.

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By Purple Girl, May 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm #

I was an AVID clinton supporter & Defender throughout the ‘90’s. I’m embarrassed and send out my most Sincerest Apologies. Hillary has prove my admiration and blind allegeince was fool hearty.
Her time in the Senate, her votes, her INACTIONS and Silence, her Cmpaign Tactics and her Terrifying Proclamation to Provoke WW3 by ‘Totally Obliterating Iran’ with Nukes (right in step with Hagee’s ‘Armeggeddon Plan’,Has Proven to Me Beyond a shade of a doubt Hillary is part of the Blue Arm of the Neo Con ‘soldiers of God’Sociopathic Dcotrine which is intentionally Destroying Our Country and has it’s eye on the REst of the World. She Terrifies ME as much as Cheney ( Mac is just another Puppet like W. & Reagan, not working with all his Cylinders. But Hillary is fully indoctrinated and willing to carry out the ‘End Game’ with Zeal!)
She is nothing more than a Covert Operative (along with the rest of the DLC) for this Delusional and Destructive ‘New World Order’ and arrogant enough to beleive she will be one of the ‘Chosen’ to be Raptured once she gets the Ball rolling. She is not just Insane she is complicite!!

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By thefrustratedteacher, May 13, 2008 at 12:11 pm #

Marie Coco=sore loser

Deal with it!

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By druidmary, May 13, 2008 at 11:56 am #
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I appreciate your site very much and I will send Hillary supporters here.

please come and read some of my stories and some of the frustration.

http://www.hillaryisourchoice.com

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By Expat, May 13, 2008 at 11:38 am #

^ a very powerful response. Bravo!

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By jackpine savage, May 13, 2008 at 11:33 am #

Yeah, it’s all about the sexism…that’s the reason behind everything that’s happened in this primary cycle.  The Clinton campaign and its supporters (both regular and pundit class) remind us about sexism every chance that they get.

It’s the “real” reason she isn’t winning…not her votes, not her lies, not her chimeric personality…no,  it’s that so many people hate women and refuse to see them in power.

At least one pundit has gone so far as to say that a woman should get to be president first, because it wasn’t fair that blacks got to vote first.  This is just one example of Clintonian attempts to shame the public into voting for the junior Senator from NY.

We did see the Obama campaign swing back on the “perceived” playing of the race card by a certain, former president.  But we don’t hear the campaign and its surrogates complain about racism on the trail.  Does it not exist?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/12/AR2008051203014.html?hpid=topnews

Hillary Clinton has given plenty of people many reasons to dislike her; Barack Obama happened to be born half black and half Muslim…that is, apparently, reason enough to dislike him.

Ginsberg asked, “America, why are your libraries full of tears?”  I’ll answer, “Because we are not half as enlightened, courageous and brave as we like to paint ourselves.  Because for all of our mythology, we are no better than anyone else.  We cling to our isms and our hate because we feel safe in them.  Because we are an adolescent nation full of adolescents.”  Bah, it occurs to me that I am America…i’m talking to myself again.

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By Erin, May 13, 2008 at 11:23 am #
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I couldn’t agree with this article more.  Hillary is flawed as a human and a politician - as we all are.  I just don’t understand how some of the commentors on this post fail to see how no matter how flawed she is, these kinds of obscenities are hurtful to all women - they chastise her womanhood and use her gender to attack her, to gain power over her, instead of going after her politics, her strategy, etc.  Anyone who denys that mysogyny is alive and well in society, needs to explain to me what non-gendered personality or political flaw the nutcracker is representing.  Or calling Hillary a bitch or a ho.  You might dislike her greatly, but if it really is only about politics, the criticisms will reflect that - and that is not the case here.

Now whoever said she voted like a Republican in the Senate clearly has no knowledge of her record.  And then there is this latest post, the writer of which seems quite surprised that women might dislike themselves - some women, just like people who identify with a certain race or sexual orientation - have internalized societal hate in their own personal rhetoric.  Take a class on feminism or racism or any discrimination course for gods sake - this is in fact part of the problem.  Anyway, thank you Marie, this message does not get out enough.

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By Rayman, May 13, 2008 at 10:30 am #
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Problem Americans not only sexist and forturnately the Obama campaign has silenced MSM from focusing on the abuse and destruction brought upon his campaign workers and property.

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By Leefeller, May 13, 2008 at 9:58 am #

Interesting I never even saw most of the things talked about in the article, but if I had seen a Hillary Nutcrackers I would probably have bought one.

One thing I won’t miss is seeing Hillary on every lame TV show and the Fox not the biased news. 

Anyone see the Hillary Terminator doll?

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By Expat, May 13, 2008 at 9:32 am #

^ may I be forgiven.  Cyrena you are correct, thank you; Cocco, yes!  How about the cereal?  Double “C”?

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By Maezeppa, May 13, 2008 at 9:10 am #
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Americans will pay dearly for the progressive left’s gleeful participation in the crucifiction of Hillary Clinton. I think you’ve all been chumps and you have played right into Karl Rove’s hands.

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By GeekLove08, May 13, 2008 at 9:08 am #
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I created a NEW VIDEO: “We’ve Come a Long Way, Baby!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8

It’s about Obama’s silence on sexism against Hillary Clinton and his own sexist remarks.

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By Aegrus, May 13, 2008 at 9:06 am #

Marie Cocco may be right about the silence of the DNC regarding the many sexist statements made along the campaign trail, but she’s neglecting the racial comments that were also neglected by Howard Dean. This is politics, and it’s going to hit the fan when you run for the white house.

I’m not going to miss reading Cocco’s illogical justification for everything Hillary Clinton has done while simultaneously complaining about her constant losses. At least she acknowledges, in this article, Hillary’s strategic missteps, which is the only reason she couldn’t grab the “inevitable” nomination from an unknown junior senator from Illinois. That shows she just isn’t up to the task of President if she can’t even secure a given nomination.

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By Hank, May 13, 2008 at 9:04 am #
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There is no doubt that sexism is as prominent in our society as racism.  Both are forms of oppression.  But, despite the fact that both sexism and racism are awful forms of behavior, Clinton (or Cocco in this column) has no basis for claiming she was damaged by sexism. 
First of all, female voters outnumber male voters; that is obviously not the case for racial minorities. 
Second, Clinton has actively and openly played the race card while Obama has not played the gender card.  Obama has stayed far away from such divisive tactics. 
I would even suggest that Clinton’s awful racist campaign has been “tolerated” because she is a woman.  Any male Democratic candidate would have been promptly disposed of had he engaged in the open race baiting that Clinton engaged in these past few weeks. 
So, yes, there is a strong sexist current in our society.  Interestingly, Obama is better positioned to deal with sexism than Clinton, who has squandered any and all moral leadership when it comes to the broader issues of bias and oppression.

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By Conservative Yankee, May 13, 2008 at 8:30 am #
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Yeap it’s all about sexism.. Nothing to do with the business-shill’s vote for the Iraq war, nothing to do with her pandering to special interest groups. nothing to do with her lies, and surely nothing to do with her lack of substance.

When my 91-year-old mother heard that Clinton was elected to the Senate in New York, she said : “Oh shit” the only time I ever heard her use a vulgar word.  My mother was a “feminist” back when there were very few. She had her own career, worked in the Brooklyn Navy-yard during WW II raised three children, drove a stick-shift, and had a seperate group of personal friends.

She’s been a Democrat all her life, even voting for Stevenson and McGovern,  This Fall she’s voting for McCain. As she says; “son, this is not your father’s Democratic party”  So the Dems can kiss another Roosevelt loyalist goodbye. I guess this is because my mother is sexist!

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By cyrena, May 13, 2008 at 7:34 am #

You’re right Expat…

I wonder if Marie would see any of the irony in the fact that until she wrote all of this stuff..the T-shirts, the Nutcracker tool or the tap-dancing doll, the comparison to the character in Fatal Attraction, I’D NEVER EVEN SEEN OR HEARD OF IT!!

And she’s all dismayed that nobody ever uttered a peep of outraged. Well, maybe they never saw any of this stuff either!!

Poor Marie. She really is a disgrace to the gender and even the name. (by the way, you spelled her last name wrong…she has an extra ‘c’ in her Cocco. Must be the Italian version.

(no, no…I don’t have anything against Italians. My dad claimed to be a black one.) But, we spell it the way you did.

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By reason, May 13, 2008 at 7:33 am #

Hilary Clinton is a woman and yes there are those that wouldn’t vote for her her because of this fact but their prejudice is offset by those who will vote for her simply because she is a woman.
Personally, I am glad Hillary Clinton is not a candidate I would want be President. I did not chose not to vote for Hilary Clinton, I chose not to vote for what she represents (beltway politics).
It is sad, that the first woman to run for President is just another sleazy politician who will pander to the bigots as a primary tool in promoting her nomination. Her political plan seems to be to “divide and disallusion” the electorate in all ways that benefit her politically, with little regard for the harm it does to others.
Picking a nominee for president is an act of faith and Hillary has not shown the qualities necessary to allow her nomination (that is not something I am happy about). Hillary’s political style is much the same as George Bush’s (the only difference is that she claims to be a Democrat).
Of all the quality women to run for the presidency surely there was someone who would represent our country in a way that could restore the average citizen’s faith in a govenment that has done it’s best to disenfranchise it’s citizens. I have always thought it would be a great thing for a woman to become President but as is the case with men, they should pocess the qualities of dignity, chartacter and honor our country so sorely needs.

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By Expat, May 13, 2008 at 6:45 am #

^ again with her usual shallow writing and misguided invectives.  People’s dislike of Hillary has everything to do with her massive character flaws and unbridled ambition for a position she has deemed her entitlement.  If there is misogyny out there, it is very likely from the very constituency she is presently romancing; “the working, hard working Americans”; the white guys/blue collar guys, of which I know intimately.  Marie Coco is possibly the worst writer here and proves it every time she puts pen to paper (so to speak); in my opinion.  Give it a rest Marie, please.

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By Scruple_less, May 13, 2008 at 6:44 am #
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Well, yes I would consider comments, such as the many you described, made by a person regarding another person to be indicative of misogyny. But that’s why this analysis breaks down: these aren’t “people” talking about other “people”; it’s a bunch of media loud-mouths who are paid to attract as much attention to themselves as possible making snide and derogatory comments ON PURPOSE about a politician who is trying to sell herself as a panacea to our political ailments.

None of it is entirely true and I really don’t care. She is a public “spectacle” not a person—at least not that we ever get to truly see. If she cries on-stage it’s because a script says to do so. They all play by the same rules, both sides of the aisle, for as long as I can remember anything about politics. Hence the jokes about the difference between Politicians and rats being that “there are some things even a rat won’t do”, and so on. Quite frankly, I don’t care what a bunch of worthless blow-hards says or intimates about a bunch of worthless liars and thieves and that has NOTHING to do with my beliefs about gender, racial, or any other kinds of equality. /shrug

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By troublesum, May 13, 2008 at 4:51 am #

I won’t miss a candidate who promised to incinerate 50 million people.  Sounded like she couldn’t wait to get her finger on the nuclear button.  What’s with the sexism charges?  Wasn’t she just saying that white men will vote for her but not for Obama?  You know, “hard working” white men.

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By JH, May 13, 2008 at 4:02 am #
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While there may be many reasons to dislike Ms. Clinton’s campaigning during this primary season, I do agree with the author that the way that this has been expressed (in the above) has been less than appropriate.  Not to say that the Obama campaign hasn’t had to deal with its fair share of derogatory comments, those gendered comments seem to slip under the radar much more easily - perhaps as the author suggests - because our society sanctions it more willingly.

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By Thomas Billis, May 13, 2008 at 2:34 am #

O poor Hillary.Forget all that fringe stuff it happens to all of them.Hillary is losing democratic primaries because she voted like a Republican in the Senate.I guess the Ossama Obama stuff is okay.Your princess is losing because of her voting record.How you could overlook and support her just because she is a woman is more stunning than anything else.Politics ain’t beanbag ask John McCain what happened in South Carolina.Poor victim Hillary.It got her a seat in the Senate where she decided to vote like a Republican.That is why she is losing.

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By TheRealFish, May 13, 2008 at 1:24 am #

Should these things be viewed with the same dispassionate, distanced, Joe Friday “just the facts” stance as that there are white voters who will support the person with incubating equipment before they would vote for someone with high quantities of melanin in the skin?

Where did the door open to consideration of such crass bigotries as simple facts of electability?

Yes, anyone who considers her or himself to be progressive *should* separate her or himself from the type of cold calculation that enables bigotries to be considered as “normal” and viewed as disadvantages to overcome or advantages to promote.

Yes. We should all join together to ensure this type of thinking, talking, or behaving become unacceptable—even in the world of political discourse.

We should join together to attempt preventing those whose core ideologies embrace such divisive thinking from continuing to hold the most influential public servant job in the country. We should ensure the person occupying that job is less inclined to replace aging Supreme Court justices with even more people focused on limiting personal rights, personal freedoms, personal choice.

That court is leaning to the Hard Right—a hard right that we can not trust to uphold that all people “are created equal.” We only have maybe the next four years to prevent that court from going over completely to the dark side.

It’s time to stop fighting each other, where we actually have so much in common. Yes, there are extremists in our midst—so don’t let them drag the rest of us down with them, to their level, just because there is advantage for them in doing so.

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By Amon Drool, May 13, 2008 at 12:58 am #

oh, nifty move, marie.  the dislike of one particular woman, hillary, indicates a dislike of women in general.  some of the most vitriolic anti hillary statements on truthdig and common dreams come from women.  i guess that means they dislike themselves, right?
as long as we have free speech, sexists (and racists) are gonna sound off.  non-sexists (and non-racists) just have to sound off better.

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