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Posted on May 2, 2008

By E.J. Dionne, Jr.

    NEW YORK—Do white right-wing preachers have it easier than black left-wing preachers? Is there a double standard?

    The political explosion around the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was inevitable, given Wright’s personal closeness to Barack Obama and the outrageous rubbish the pastor has offered about AIDS, 9/11 and Louis Farrakhan.

    After Wright’s bizarre and narcissistic performance at the National Press Club on Monday, Obama would have looked weak and irresolute had he not denounced him. But if there was a moment of courage in this drama, it was not Obama’s condemnation of Wright but his earlier and now much-criticized effort to avoid a complete break with his unapologetic pastor.

    In March, Obama tried to explain the anger in the black community and insisted that “to condemn it without understanding its roots only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.”

    In light of this racial gap, it’s worth pondering why white, right-wing preachers who make ridiculous and sometimes shameful statements usually emerge with their influence intact.

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    The catalog goes back to Bailey Smith, the former president of the Southern Baptist Convention. Speaking at a 1980 religious convention that was also addressed by Ronald Reagan, Smith declared that “God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew.”

    Reagan later asserted that he thought Jewish prayers were answered, but was less than definitive: “Everyone can make his own interpretation of the Bible,” the Gipper said, “and many individuals have been making differing interpretations for a long time.”

    Two days after the 9/11 attacks, Jerry Falwell, appearing on Pat Robertson’s “700 Club,” declared: “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way—all of them who have tried to secularize America—I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’”

    Robertson replied: “Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we’re responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And the top people, of course, is the court system.”

    To their credit, many conservatives condemned Falwell and Robertson. The ministers backed away from their words, but Falwell’s retraction was, at best, partial. “When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture,” Falwell insisted, “the result is not good.”

    What’s telling is that neither preacher lost sway in Republican circles. Before Falwell’s death last year, John McCain actively courted his support, and Rudy Giuliani, the hero of 9/11, welcomed Robertson’s endorsement of his own candidacy. “His advice is invaluable,” Giuliani said.

    And, of course, there is the endorsement of McCain by the Rev. John Hagee, founder of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, who has called the Catholic Church “the great whore of Babylon” and “the anti-Christ.”

    It’s entirely true that Wright’s foolishness is a bigger deal because of his long-standing relationship with Obama. That’s the view of John Danforth, a former Republican senator from Missouri and Episcopal priest who was here for a conference on religion and politics.

    But in an interview Danforth said that for a long time, the role of the religious right in Republican politics “did not get enough attention,” partly because so much of its activity occurred out of public view. “The way that it works is to get the people listening to you very angry,” he said, “and you kind of whisper in their ears.”

    The Rev. William Danaher, a professor at the General Theological Seminary here, argued that left-wing preachers who are black draw more fire because their critique of American society tends to be more fundamental.

    “The left black preacher is challenging the social structures that everyone lives in,” Danaher said. “The white preachers on the right don’t challenge these structures. Instead, they talk about issues of personal morality and individual behavior.”

    None of this absolves Wright. Allen Dwight Callahan, one of the nation’s leading African-American scholars of Scripture, argued on the Web site of PBS’ Religion and Ethics Newsweekly that “prophets of old didn’t announce their prophetic prerogatives at press conferences and press clubs” and that Wright “is wrong to wrap his recent media attention in the mantle of the prophetic tradition.”

    Exactly right. Now the question is whether we will be just as tough on false prophets who happen to be white and right-wing.
   
    E.J. Dionne’s e-mail address is postchat(at)aol.com.
   
    © 2008, Washington Post Writers Group


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By RdV, May 6, 2008 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

that such a fuss is made about Obama’s inability to connect with the uneducated gun totin’ beer and shot white trash (hey they call us elites)“base” that Hillary has recently embraced as kin, while no mention is made of the alienation of the entire African-American voting bloc for Clinton.
  I guess African-Americans don’t count.

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By Thomas Billis, May 6, 2008 at 9:43 am Link to this comment

Black preachers state the obvious that white America dowes not want to hear and white preachers state the fantastic that America is always open to hear.Oh the founders with the separation of church and state.A sobering thought is that in todays politics George Washington Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin would not even be considered for this nations top office for different religious flaws.Instead we get George Bush.Looks to me like separation of church and state is better and in the Constitution.If you have forgotten the Constitution is that document that the Bush White House uses to wipe their asses.

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By dihey, May 5, 2008 at 4:59 pm Link to this comment

This article is total and abject nonsense. Not one of the ‘white’ preachers mentioned by Dionne has ever championed or supported Senator Clinton. Most of them are Hillary-haters.

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By Apostle Gideon, May 5, 2008 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

If one: stands like Christ: completely centered; the way one: should, and preaches: Christ, one: still gets; crucified. The rest commit spirutal suicide.

Please check out my blogs:

http://benevolentlybeloved.com

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By jon hill, May 5, 2008 at 11:40 am Link to this comment
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Lets see—

Yellow Badges? The Catholic Church

Ghettos? The Catholic Church

Crusades? The Catholic Church

The Inquisition? The Catholic Church

Blood Libel? The Catholic Church

20th Century Death Factories? The Nazi Party

If this were a race to hell, these asses would be tied…for second place. Hagee and The Rapturists are way ahead—what could be more evil than actively pushing to obliterate mankind…so a precious few could get ahead?

Unbelievable

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By wildflower, May 5, 2008 at 10:11 am Link to this comment

The double standard is obvious. The question is why is it happening. The most likely explanation is because many of these right wing religious extremists have friends in high places and the media has been playing a blissful game of follow the leader.

Hagee’s sermons, for example, promote intolerance.  They undermine the whole concept of religious freedom in the U.S. and push a very particular view of the Bible that is not even shared by most U.S. Jews, Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox Christians. Yet, he has been highly praised by politicians like President Bush, former House Majority Leader Delay, and more recently Senator McCain.

Since America was founded upon religious freedom principles, you would think the media would ask the obvious questions when a politician like McCain says he is proud of the “spiritual leadership” of an intolerant preacher like Hagee. And if it’s not Hagee’s intolerant attitude or his efforts to undermine religious freedom in the U.S. that McCain admires, then, specifically, what is it that McCain admires about Hagee’s “spiritual leadership”? Surely, the media knows a large segment of the U.S. public would like to know exactly what McCain is referencing.

By dwelling on a few statements by Wright while ignoring a whole bunch of other preachers trying to eliminate religious freedom in the U.S., the media has created problems involving not only double standards but issues of duplicity as well.

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By cyrena, May 4, 2008 at 9:22 pm Link to this comment

Free Pass? You can’t possibly be serious!!

You call the last 2 months of non-stop attacks on a man who until that time was relatively UNKNOWN to 99.99% of most Americans, which rotted into a full fledged attack on a genuinely sincere and hard working candidate, not to mention the the African-American Church ‘at-large’ a FREE FUCKING PASS?

You can’t be serious.

We know you’re a racist hammo. You’ve been putting it out there on this blog for long enough. You’ve all beat the Jeremiah Wright thing to death 14 million times over. There are roughly 300 million Americans, (give or take a few million) headed for the fatal crash landing that the fascism of the past 7 years has orchastrated. Jeremiah Wright is only ONE of them, and HE’S not running for elected office, nor is he in a position to save any of us from that crash.

Stop with the diversive tactics. We have far more serious things to consider.

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By Hammo, May 4, 2008 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment

Let’s not give Jeremiah Wright a full pass on his divisive message.

He generalizes about “America,” he looks for the bad yet ignores the good and he seems to have some flaws in his personality.

Food for thought in the article ...

“Obama not ‘black’ enough for Jeremiah Wright?”

AmericanChronicle.com
May 4, 2008

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/60699

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By rcat99, May 4, 2008 at 7:10 am Link to this comment

The Rev. Hagee has said some hateful, ludicrous things and has endorsed McCain and he, McCain, is glad to have the endorsement. This means that Hagee would like to see McCain as president, it must be assumed, to propagate their shared philosophy, to the extent that they are in agreement.
The Rev. Wright has said some infuriating things but Obama has rejected Wright and his remarks. The good Reverend, in fact, appears to be doing all in his power to prevent Obama from becoming president. To a rational mind this would suggest a fundamental disagreement in philosophy.
So by what logic is Obama condemned and feared for his association, however close or tenuous, but McCain’s welcoming of his nefarious alliance all but ignored?  Go figure.

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By Tom Doff, May 3, 2008 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment

Now here’s a subject for serious discussion:

‘Do white right-wing preachers have it easier than black left-wing preachers?’

Gee, I dunno. Here’s one for you, E.J.

‘How many angels can balance on the head of an E.J. Dionne?’

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By Tom Joad, May 3, 2008 at 7:42 pm Link to this comment
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This is interesting… Kerry (who knows a thing or two about ad nauseum repetition in the media of an unfair story) goes on the counteroffensive for Obama…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30/kerry-rips-msnbc-on-wrigh_n_99491.html

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By Purple Girl, May 3, 2008 at 2:53 pm Link to this comment

My God Hagee is far more Terrifying then Wright, he has the Friends and Gov’t officials who could put his ‘end of Days’ self fulfilling Prophecy in to Action. Hillary’s comments about ‘obliterating Iran’ using Nukes Baffled Me until I saw the Bill Moyer video on is.com Journal.
Hagee Wants a pre-emptive Strike against Iran to spark International Reaction. He wants Nukes used so that the ‘Armegeddon’ can Begin and the ‘Rapture’ will ‘Save’ the Christians (No Jews allowed unless they convert).He is a Sociopathic Maniac which makes men like Cheney and even Hitler look mild.they atleast only wanted to Enslave mankind, Hagee wants to Start a War that will destroy it! Because this lunatic thinks his ‘followers ’ will be lifted out of here once the shit hits the fan - He is a cult leader far more dangerous than any other because of his Gov’t Connection and Affliations. Hillary was Signaling she Buys into the doctrine and is willing to be a ‘Warrior for God’ .
this is the Religious Teaching Which need to be Exposed- Looped on every Channel for weeks on end. this actually is something to be VERY concerned about.
Cornerstone should be on a ‘WAtch list’ Should be added to the Domestic Terroist List- tehy are a Clear & Present Danger to US and the World.
foolish me I thougth Mac & Hillary were JUST Covert Corp Operatives. I’m not just outraged -I’m Terrified!

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By Margaret Currey, May 3, 2008 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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How can I be outraged by what the Rev.Wright said when in essence he told the truth, granted that he loves the state, but

When you listen to the rape and pillerage that the KGB employees did you wonder why was they put over there after KGB is a sibsidary of Harriburton and our beloved vice president was their CEO and get this when Bush was looking for a VIP, this beloved Chanaey choose himself, I wonder did he navigate the 9/11 thing.

The tower was bomed before if anyone remembers, I just remember Ms. Condi Rice saying who could have imagined, well Fla. could imagine when foreigners were taking flying lessons and did not care to learn how to land these planes.

And I am amazed that Bush won because of the bible thumpers and now one can see how the war was operated by the man who calls Jeasus his inspiration, I wonder if he knows about the corruption in Iraq, after all there are so many secrets from this administration.

I believe no matter what the spin of the media, Obama seems like a more honest person and he surely does not want to “throw the kitchen at anyone”, but if the other side plays dirty I just hope people see through this.

I just happen not to believe the media, because they don’t really talk about what is really going on.I think talking about the waste of taxpayers money would be a good start.

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By KYJurisDoctor, May 3, 2008 at 10:05 am Link to this comment

Yes, there is a double standard in EVERY DAY American life; one for Whites and another for every no white!

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By great_satan, May 3, 2008 at 6:43 am Link to this comment

“Do white right-wing preachers have it easier than black left-wing preachers? Is there a double standard?”

  Gee, ya think so?

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By cyrena, May 3, 2008 at 4:12 am Link to this comment

I doubt this is bush’s plan. But I’m willing to agree that it’s cheney’s plan.

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By cyrena, May 3, 2008 at 12:19 am Link to this comment

Lisa,

Your Grandma sure was smart. (I had a pretty smart one too.) Thanks for sharing her words of wisdom, and your own as well.

I’m pretty bitter myself, but I do believe your Grandma when she said that if you give of yourself the very best that you have, the best will come back to you.

I think we just have to accept that as a common practice in order to get back on our collective feet. That’s just because we’ve discovered that we can’t do it alone, or even with just a few of us.

But, I think it’s happening. Finally. And, I still say that there are more of us than there are of them. (the fascists that is)

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By PatrickHenry, May 2, 2008 at 5:07 pm Link to this comment

One mans collateral damage is another mans terrorism.

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By John Hall, May 2, 2008 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment
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The hypocrisy of any of you Catholics or Christians out there who condemn Reverend Wright and Obama: you’re all bent out of shape over Wright’s “God Damn America” refrain and Obama not condemning and breaking away from him right away.
I’d like to ask you: when are you going to leave a church that has done little to police the pervert-pastor problem it has had for years? Or are you fine with the molestation of children?
Also, is homophobia OK with you, too? To the point where your pastor blames homosexuals for tragic events in this country?

I’m waiting….

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By cyrena, May 2, 2008 at 3:41 pm Link to this comment

Jacob you should start a website..something like, real zealots in action dot propaganda dot dot dot.

Then you wouldn’t have to post this hysterical hype here, or hear from any of your so-called anti-Americans and anti-Christian bloggers.

Meds might help as well. I think you’re mental.

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By Don Stivers, May 2, 2008 at 3:37 pm Link to this comment

Any of you out there who are against the war of occupation in Iraq want to stand up and sing “GOD BLESS AMERICA” ???  Are we, as a nation, to be blessed for holding a person for 6 years in jail with no charges?

Or accidentally killing innocents in our bombing runs over Iraq and Afghanistan?

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By sophrosyne, May 2, 2008 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment
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Wright is of course correct in describing 9-11 as blowback for decades of American policies, love fest with vicious dictators and slavery to the interests of Israel and their lobbies.  I thought most intellegient people knew that.  Chalmers Johnson has written extensively about it. The people who died due in part to American polciies and Bush’s appalling in action after he was warned, did not deserve to die.  They were the victims of other people’s bad policies and misactions.  Wright may exaggerate but he is essentially right.

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By David, May 2, 2008 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment
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The elections will never happen.  Here is Bush’s plan.

1.  Attack Iran.
2.  Stifle protests with declaration of nationwide martial law.
3.  ‘Postpone’ elections.

It’s all very simple.  Have a nice day.

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By Thomas Beck, May 2, 2008 at 10:44 am Link to this comment
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“Allen Dwight Callahan, one of the nation’s leading African-American scripture scholars, argued on the Web site of PBS’ Religion and Ethics Newsweekly that ‘prophets of old didn’t announce their prophetic prerogatives at press conferences and press clubs’.

Gee, really? Maybe that’s because, um - THEY DIDN’T HAVE PRESS CONFERENCES AND PRESS CLUBS BACK THEN?

What idiocy.

“Now the question is whether we will be just as tough on false prophets who happen to be white and right wing.”

Well, if Dionne’s article is any indication, of course “we” won’t - since he isn’t even trying to be. No mention of Rod Parsley, no mention of Hagee’s inflammatory remarks about New Orleans.

McCain goes out of his way to get Hagee’s endorsement, and lists Parsley as his spiritual campaign advisor. But none of that matters, since white right-wingers are never as scary to the white media barons as black left-wingers.

Meanwhile, McCain wants the war in Iraq to go on forever, vomits out a healthcare plan whose only effect will be to induce employers to stop offering health insurance to workers, and the press can’t be bothered to pay attention to either, even though those are the issues that Americans - you know, voters, the people “elitists” like Obama supposedly can’t connect with - really care about.

And newspapers wonder why they’re losing readers, and the network news wonders why its losing viewers. These media barons are so stupid, you wonder if they can even dress themselves in the morning?

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By Kevin, May 2, 2008 at 10:09 am Link to this comment
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What are you babbling about?

1. “God Damn America” was a line from a sermon by Wright, sorry… it’s not “Obama’s slogan”

2. What’s this nonsense about “anti-american, anti-christian bloggers”?

3. Why was it impossible for you to comment on or respond to the actual article?

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By Greg, May 2, 2008 at 10:08 am Link to this comment
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With all respect, Rev. Danaher is *way* off the mark, here: Yes, it’s true that white, right-wing clergy express their socio-political ideas in the manner of all other right-wingers, as a matter of individual virtue or weakness. This is de rigueur, on the Right, this garbage about the sovereign individual (their rabid affection for authoritarian social forms notwithstanding!).

But how in the world can you conceive of the religious Right’s myriad and persistent challenges to the Establishment Clause - challenges, really, to our society as it stands in its courts, schools, and scientific laboratories - as a practice of individualized moral critiques? This makes absolutely no sense. You’ve offered a sort of media critique of Falwell, Robertson et al. as if they existed only as intemperate loud-mouthed TV characters, Elmer Gantry and Archie Bunker rolled up in one. But what about the preferential placement of grads of Regent U. in the DOJ? What about the always-looming threat of the Right’s attack on Roe v. Wade? What about their bizarre position contra global warming science; and how about the Discovery Institute and the war against evolutionary science? What about the religious Right’s 19th-century ideas re gender roles and womens’ rights? Why no mention of the friendlier faces of the white Right-wing evangelical movement - remember good ole’ Mike Huckabee? These people are not fighting a weak Kulturkampf over words and ideas: they are looking to “reform” this secular society and government at the fundamental and structural level, by very practical means.

You’ve only done here what you and other talking heads continue to do on cable news networks: you’ve individualized church-based activism, rhetoric, and so on; and have diligently ignored the real *work*, the leverage of substantial political power, by Falwell and Robertson and their like (and let’s not forget Douglas Coe). I don’t give a damn what each said about 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina—but I sure as hell care that they’ve hijacked our Department of Justice, that they’ve practically redefined Civil Rights law to work in the “defense” of “Christian values” above all else. While racist super-patriots (most of them chickenhawks) pile on Rev. Wright, Pat Robertson’s laughing and continuing his concerted push into realpolitik.

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By WriterOnTheStorm, May 2, 2008 at 9:45 am Link to this comment

What gets me is that Dionne seems to have no inkling how insulting it must be to Wright to be compared to truly crackpot bibledrunks like Robertson. It’s an outrage to compare Wright’s assertion that 9/11 just might have been a little blowback for 100 years of supporting oil baron dictators in the ME with Falwell’s bigoted hate-rants against secularists, gays and just about everyone whose not genuflecting to god as embodied by Jerry hisownself.

Wright, like most gospel jockeys, is interested in himself, and that means pleasing his audience. Naturally he’s gonna stand up and perform his greatest hits once he’s on the big stage.

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By Lisa Holt, May 2, 2008 at 9:38 am Link to this comment
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Coming from the heart of the midwest and growing up where guns and God are paramount, of COURSE the media continues to go on a feeding frenzy to (predictably) focus long and loud upon “semantics” vs. the meat-and-potatoes of the matter(s) at hand.  Sen. Obama and his wife, Michelle, both so eloquently clarified that perhaps his choice of words/ synonymous to semantics - could have been a bit more appropriate.  None-the-less, his words in San Francisco were a clear-cut verification of his knowledge of the plight of many, many Americans. 

Hell, yes, I’m bitter.  Desperate, tired, scared, and cling to the God of my understanding REGARDLESS of what presidential candidates, current occupants of the executive wing, legislators, etc. who are misguiding our country which brings us to the current abyss of our economy, foreign policy, corruption in the highest of places.  The “trickle down” concept is indeed, not only infiltrated our society, but actually saturated it to the point that it reminds me of a saying my late Grandmother used to frequently utter, “bust or boil dry”.

At least Sen. Obama is taking responsibility for his associations and “responding” to the current attack-for-today.  Compare this to those who currently hold the reigns of power who point one finger at everybody else and hide behind lies, liars and the liars who tell them and are doing so because they’re bought just like a common whore.  Only instead of selling just their bodies, they’ve sold their souls under the umbrella of greed, graft and the like and promptly slapping a label of “freedom” on it, to boot.

When the silhouette image clearly reflects the sum total of what happens when a society (national AND international) becomes strangled and near death due to the massive corporate take-over of all ingredients of the foundation of the building that is built upon sinking sand when a consistent policy across the board is intent upon absolute power corrupting power absolutely.  Not just an isolated faux pas mis-speak, but a consistent string of events and modus operandi which is nothing short of rape and pillage the infidels i.e. anybody, anything, any place who dares disagree in varying degrees with the tyrant(s) in charge.

Marry this all with the media whose allegiance, of COURSE, mirrors the MO of those whose agenda they’re paid to perpetuate, and SURPRISE!(?) the gest of the whole mess alludes to the adage “the more things change, the more they really stay the same”.

In conclusion, this all reminds me of a saying Grandma used to also often say to me - “Lisa, ‘life is a mirror of King and Slave, you are what you say and do - give of yourself the very best that you have and the best will come back to you.’ ”

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By ntc, May 2, 2008 at 9:12 am Link to this comment
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Huh?  What are you talking about?  Dionne is tough on Wright - “the outrageous rubbish the pastor has offered about AIDS, 9/11 and Louis Farrakhan.” “Wright’s bizarre and narcissistic performance at the National Press Club…” “It’s entirely true that Wright’s foolishness is a bigger deal because of his long-standing relationship with Obama.” “None of this absolves Wright…”

Did you bother reading the article?  Dionne just wants some attention some attention to go towards the nutty, idiotic, right wing “preachers” McCain is in bed with too…

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By Purple Girl, May 2, 2008 at 7:57 am Link to this comment

AIDS was ACTIVELY ignored until it reached the White population. While it was called ‘GRID’ or ‘contained’ with in the Black and Gay communities the Reagan Admin did NOTHING!Until it really did hit the national blood Supply did the even acknowledge this epidemic! I have no idea if the HIV virus came out of a lab or not- but is irrelevant once you consider how it was allowed to Flourish and how many people died from Blanant Discrimination!
As for the ‘Chickens who cam home to Roost’ WE told Our Gov’t & Incs to get out of the ME in the ‘70’s when we had a real oil shortage, when Hostages were taken and held for a year, when planes were being highjacked and bodies being thrown out on to the Tarramack! I was shocked by the Devastion of 9/11- but was never surprised and have been outraged by the BS rhetoric which has been nothing more then Propaganda regarding why we were attack. Then add the actuall assault to OUR Rights and Freedoms since 9/11 and the only logical entities which HATE OUR Freedoms is the Gov’tand the Inc & Foreign Sponsors!These Demonic Vile Profiteers ahve ben using OUR FLAG as camoflague and put Our citizens in harms way- Human shields!! Those Chicken swere Never Ours, they were theirs and those who attacked on 9/11 were targeting their Brick & Mortar- otherwise they would have hit malls and highways and churces and anything else AmericaNs frequent. the Citizens who died on 9/11 were victims of this Global Business Stratedgy, and Corrupt foreign Policy!
Wake Up God Damn it the real terrorist to the American way of Life & principles sit in Board Rooms, in the WH, In congress and sit on the Bench of SCOTUS!

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By Hammo, May 2, 2008 at 7:51 am Link to this comment

The culture, demographics and psychology of areas like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana and elsewhere may hold answers to Dionne’s question about white and black preachers.

The background of many areas of the U.S. are complex. Some have distinct variations and some are quite similar.

Food for thought in the article ...

“Obama faces Midwest hearts and minds”

Joint Recon Study Group blog
May 2, 2008

http://jointreconstudygroup.blogspot.com/

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By ntc, May 2, 2008 at 7:41 am Link to this comment
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I hope to Gawd that groups like move-on have videos of Hagee spewing his “whore of babylon” anticatholic rantings just waiting in the wings for the general election.  They should be shoved down our collective throats until no catholic in this country is unaware of McCain’s relationship with Hagee.  Maybe they’ll vote Democrat or stay home…

Oh, and thanks Dave Raithel for the gratuitous “Cracker” comment.  Jerk.

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By TDoff, May 2, 2008 at 7:08 am Link to this comment

The split is not between right- and left-wing preachers, the split is between those who get and give sex for free, and those who pay and charge for it.

Some would say it’s between which have same-sex sex and those who have all-sex sex, but we’ve gone far beyond that kind of discrimination.

Some would say it’s between those who are hypocrites and those who are not, but those folks are deluded, because there’s only one side to that debate, and the hypocrites win by default.

Then there are the sane folks, who wonder why on earth anyone would waste so much time on the fable of religion.

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By Dave Raithel, May 2, 2008 at 6:10 am Link to this comment

This and Boyarsky’s essay both point up the double-standard which holds Obama accountable for what no Cracker Christian-Zionist Church member, nor any Roman Catholic, is accountable; but Mr. Fish’s cartoon supposing what Obama ought to have said gets to the heart of the matter best.

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